What if VIEWERS Voted On Austria's Collapse in 1910?
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Just imagine you are the Austrian emperor, your empire is crashing down by communists and nationalists, and the other powers are discussing the partition of your empire like you were nothing.
So basically what happened IRL?
Irony considering Austria's participation in Poland-Lithuania's partitions
Yeah, imagine that… *poland voice*
They basically _were_ nothing at this stage of the collapse.
@@beefyblomwell atleast irl the allies still help them to defend their territories from hungary and yugoslavia
It finally came out, it has been a century
Results not shown. Video CLEARLY rigged...
hi kaiser my pookie bear
OH MY GOD HE PUSHED THE EVERY MODERN EMPIRE VIDEO EVEN FURTHER BACK
I thought I was the only one that wanted this video to come out lol
i thinks he's rewriting it trying to be as uncontroversial as possible
@@derevianne1108 controversy is exactly why I want it
@@alielsherif1566 hell fucking yeah
It’s never coming out
I really really like these viewer votes, especially when he makes follow-up videos on how this would effect the world long term
"By 1910, Europe was very, very 10s"
-Possible History
What if everything went perfect for Italy?
Possible history, for the love of god please do this.
pre ww1 italy or fash italy?
@@-P3NGU1N Considering how his past "What if everything went perfect for ____" focused on Imperial Russia and Germany, it would make most sense for it to be pre-ww1 Italy.
@@-P3NGU1NItaly going fascist implies irl “mutilated” victory or a ww1 defeat, which means everything was in fact not perfect for Italy
@@alaeus2310 fash italy not trying to conquer Ethiopia and Albania, and instead focusing on improving their economy and relations with other countries could also be considered a “perfect” scenario. The fash regime would eventually fall, and italy would be spared from the destruction of ww2, would have more territory, be more industrialized, and would benefit from the resources of their colonies.
_"You and I remember Budapest very differently..."_
What
@@ReallyBadAtYT there is no movie called avengers assemble
11:36 Btw, you forgot to give Switzerland Vorarlberg on the big map
Transylvania aside, this was pretty much what I'd envisioned with my votes. Now let's see what goes down with the Balkan Wars and WW1 thereafter.
Stronger Serbia and Montenegro would affect Balkan wars
Though would Italy even invade Lybia having secured a lot of land a strong ally in Balkans?
Serbia and Greece will definitely partition what would have been Albania for themselves in the first one, it was Austria who enforced Albanian independence if I remember right. Serbia was already gonna see bigger gains no matter what our votes did to Austria.
The Balkans were only one place where Italy sought to expand its borders and/or influence, really. I don't see why having Croatia aligned to them will shut Italy out of picking at the Ottoman rear end.
And speaking of Serbia, their pan-Yugoslav movement is now directly obstructed by Italian-supported Croatia and German-controlled Slovenia. I think it's probable that their gains of South Slav territories bring the Germans and Italians into conflict with Serbia's big protector Russia and _their_ ally France.
Also socialism on the international stage. Certainly not as bad as the Bolsheviks, but still probably not great
What If everything went terrible for the Central Powers.
If refers about post WW1 I imagine this:
Germany: partitioned and balkanized in many states
Austria Hungary: same as our timeline but hasher
Bulgaria: all of thace to Greece and the donbruja to Romania and the rest annex to Yugoslavia
Ottomans: lost their independence war and Greece gets all of their claims
I mean, two of the four collapsed, and Germany got saddled with humiliating army restrictions and astronomical reparations? That seems pretty terrible to me, but are you saying they get fully partitioned or something? I'm not totally sure HOW that could happen since balkanizing Germany wouldn't be supported by the British and Americans and the only one pushing for it would be France.
@@yossifhadadwha
@@yossifhadad wdym
so like our timeline^
As a German, I am looking forward to knowing if it would end good or bad for us
Depends on when the war starts. If it starts and Britain joins I guesss it would be relatively similar. If Britain doesnt join, then Germany wins without a doubt. Removing Britain basically removes nearly all of the bad things for germany (for example food shortages). On the other hand the entente is really weakened as Britain was not only supplying manpower but also paying for the war effort of the entente. Without Britain there is no submarine warfare and no american entry.
Drifting Britain away from the Franco-Russian pairing is already a huge boon for Germany, which, I think personally outweighs any negative impact of deleting Austria. Britain's blockade was ruinous.
It all depends on Britain. If the UK stays neutral, then Germany can most likely break the French lines within a year or two, which would then basically leave the war as a 1 v 1 between Germany and a stronger Russia, where the Germans would probably still win. If Britain still joins the Entente, then the Russians and Romanians overwhelm the Transylvanian principalities, marches through Hungary, and push the Germans hard on the Eastern Front. The French and British hold the line in the east, while Italy stays neutral. The Germans would be fighting an much more defensive war than in our timeline, and they'll most likely lose. The main difference in this second scenario is that Russia might not have a revolution, since the war would have gone better for them (they probably would've still been pushed backwards, but not as much as in our timeline).
In a perfect scenario, Germany would have Britain and Italy as allies. I think they have a chance of winning
@@ruihund Italy makes sense, a lot of territorial demands against France
But why Britain? Britain stopped fearing Russia after Russo-Japanese war
Btw, in your Second World poll, I noticed a lot of problems:
- You can't give Memel or Southern East Prussia to the independent Kaliningrad
- You can give East Prussia to West Germany even if East Germany is independent
- You can't give a Polish province to Lithuania, which would create really disgusting borders if Lithuania got everything around it
- No North Epirus
- No Turkic Union option
- You can't give IRL Tajik lands to Tajikistan
- Independent Komi would be an enclave no matter what you do
- You can give some provinces to an independent Manchuria, but you can't make Manchuria independent
- You also can't give Transamur to Manchuria
- You can't give western Gansu to East Turkestan
- No Fangchenggang ;(
You should probably do a re-run of it (especially given the Manchuria issue)
In Addition
- You can't give Bryansk to Ukraine
- No Slovene independence question
- No option to give Astrakhan to an independent Kalmykia.
- You can't give independence to a Siberian state or a Yakut state
- No option to give Sakhalin or the Kuril's to Japan
- Can't give Inner Mongolia to Mongolia
& Many more.
that is just to make it more chaotic, which equals interestingness in the video’s
@@aydendejong451 more options = more fun
i am complaining about the lack of the options that could've been added
And I hope you can do a follow-up video on what would happen next, similar to how viewers voted on WW1 and WW2 borders
i love bigHungary
He said it at the end of
Its Tuesday where part 2!!!!!
Thursday I need part two
"Tuesday, I will release a follow-up to this video"
*Is Tuesday*
No video
Sad ):
Jk, you do you man, you rock
There are 27 children inside my attic
Same li'l bro
This ain't insta
Good
Wait what i took one there should be 26
rookie numbers
What happened to "Tuesday"? It's Wednesday.
Edit 1: Now Thursday. . . Still waiting.
I think it would also be in the interest of germany to strenghten Romania as an ally to open another possible russian front even if temporary in return for the rest of transylvania
You also havent talked much about britains and french reactions to this chaos
Another question would be how firmily is croatia under italian control (i dunno how the croatian people at the time saw the italians or if they would really be loyal to italy as a puppet. I am also assuming that this new italian royal family in croatia is very popular as being their first independent king in about 1000 years and that was why they were chosen as kings
I would also like to know the reaction of the ottomans, since the habsburgs were one of the biggest oponents to their interests in the balkans (maybe a reconquest of serbia?)
You can't tear down a 1000 year old kingdom and it's territorial integrity. Only reason Romania was strengthened so much in real life was French interest.
I'm pretty certain the wider foreign reactions will be in the continuation video. This one was just meant to show territorial and influence changes.
The best visuals in a PH video yet, I love it
Fuck yeah! Big Switzerland!
I'm loving the editing on this one!
I’m not sure if I like the new format for these, I kinda preferred going over the survey and mapping it out.
You don't wanna know, how long i've been eagerly waiting for this video! Love your content!
Idea:
What if hilter never became the president of Germany
A survey has just been completed via the link. I think it would be better to divide the regions even more and number them instead of different colors. (tr)
Yeah, numbering w/ different color highlights would help prevent confusion for the visually impaired.
(e.g dyslexia, color-blindness, etc.)
I just did the new poll, prioritized chaos and stupid enclaves and a large, ultra nationalist east Germany with as few allies as possible.
I pretty much had Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Serbia, and Russia all set up to be problems for the west, whose only actual gains were Czechia, Slovenia, and Croatia.
Great video! I made sure to do the vote as well! :D
@@Cannon530YTOO Big Kazakhstan.
I know this seems like a weird topic but what about…
What if everything went well for Carthage, Rome and Alexander the Great concurrantly
literally impossible
@FishwicksREAL nah, Alexander goes off and makes his greco-persian empire and you've got hyper-rome vs super-carthage waging the 17th punic war in the land and sea
@@ayathados6629 based
@@ayathados6629 rome would be too weak to fight a carthage that continues to exist, never becomes an empire, and dies in the cradle. simply not possible.
@@FishwicksREAL Rome was pretty crazy, as long as they didn’t lose Sardinia or Sicily they would probably still become an empire. Taking over Illyria and Greece would probably be where they’d expand instead.
Please do a what if Bavaria unified Germany and a what if Charlemagne married irene of byzantium
I feel like an althis scenario on "What if everything went perfect for Turkey (Ottoman Empire)?" where it starts from the failed 1683 Siege of Vienna and where the Turks might expand from would be interesting. I just feel like it would be an interesting scenario, seeing the Muslim Turks absolutely destroying the Christian Kingdoms of that time, it would probably be a similar video to what if everything went perfect for the Habsburgs video.
Super excited to see if my scenario wins out. Love the voter part of your videos
Video 6 of asking Possible History for a video about "If Valery Sablin was succesful"
Voted for communist Hungary. Let’s see if it happens.
Edit: I am all seeing
So true
@@Voided191 why must you cyber stalk me on all platforms
@@brandongilbertson3552 I wasn't even stalking, stop having the same taste in CZcamsrs as me damnit!
oh no. Hungry hungary....
about the pole, it seems like you wanted to partitioned that one Russian Island right above Japan but never set a poll on what's gonna happen to it. (it had the light blue color, 2nd to last bunch of questions)
if you do manage to fix it, know in advance i'm voting for Japan to get them
YES PLS CONTINUEEEE and continue talking about the leaders and stuff, basically to give some more realism and depth
I agree with this, although I would appreciate knowing a little more than just the guys at the top...
@@Cannon530YTOO Yeah thats true but I guess that would be harder to predict and also make scenarios more complicated and hard for him to make
0:52 it always does
Haha, another uninformed "Hungarians weren't loyal to the empire" comment
@@Tovalokodonc i am talking about PH’s videos. In his videos, Hungarians always start a revolt in Budapest and then the empire collapses.
This is honestly the best viewer vote, both results and video quality wise
I agree. However, we never actually saw the results of the vote (via pie chart, percentages, see Viewer Vote WW2.)
Finally!!!!!!! I was waiting for this video!!!!!
You know it's a good day when possible history uploads!
FINALLY YAY 😊 ❤, THANK YOU
Lore of What if VIEWERS Voted On Austria's Collapse in 1910? Momentum 100
I really like this style for viewer decide series
I've been waiting for this video
This Video is amazing. People say his videos are cheap and unrealistic. But I this these are one of the most enjoying videos
You always make my days better thank you
Really cool concept and I loved voting
Yes, the format is interesting and engages people with history!
When people vote for a scenario, they have a vested interest to see what they voted for.
Hopefully, this has lead to many people voting for an option and becoming engaged in learning about history!
Edit: _(Plus, It's entertaining!)_
When the next? I already voted and I'm waiting for the video
Thank god. I remember voting on this one. So excited :)
The new map (and editing) look so much better!
Great video man love you Stuff.
Finally the Austria thing is out. I’m so happy right now
I waited for this sooo long
I love the new map animations! They look insanely cool!
What if VIEWERS Voted On Sweden’s Collapse in 1910?
(Please do a what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario)
And how would sweden collapse?
Sweden's collapse is currently happening in modern day, but there's no way the Swedes would collapse in 1910.
@@FishwicksREAL how
@@notlucas6859 muslims.
@@FishwicksREAL goober
I love these viewer voted episodes
What if everything went perfect for the axis powers
LOVE YOUR CONTENT ❤❤❤❤❤
"And a group of drunken men ended up causing a rucus."
Mood.
Also very Belgian.
Belgians at least were at theatre, not in pub
@@snertmoskalyam Aye, that does make it slightly more acceptable. But still.
@@snertmoskalyam I feel like i'm missing some context here. What historical event was this?
@@Cannon530YTOO belgian revolution, I don't now much about it but it is basically belgian rebelion against dutch in 19th century, which was started by people, who went out of theater after patrioticall play
i love it when the funny dutch guy lets his psychopathic viewers ruin major powers
Personally, I see this as a good thing for Germany, while relations have soured with Russia compared to the past, they are far from truly terrible at this point in time at the loss of Austria could serve as a release valve on tensions. Additionally this Germany lacks the Balkan commitments Austria did with the sole potential exception of Croatia if they manage to expand upon relations with Italy again into a proper alliance to replace Austria. I also dont really see the UK intervening in any war in Europe even if say France or Germany invades Belgium as that was more an excuse to get into the war than a genuine desire to properly protect Belgium especially as it would feed into a nightmare scenario of essentially turning whatever side it joins into the dominant continental power when its much more to British interests to just let both sides weaken each other as much as possible.
Germany does hold Slovenia, this alongside Croatia being in Italy's sphere could create problems with Serbia later on. Croatia's new king may well be this timeline's Franz Ferdinand.
@@gengarzilla1685 Already mentioned Croatia as an exception and potential problem, and Slovenia is well, already pretty Germanized by the time of the WW1 era and I imagine another 30 years would help really cement that, especially with Slovene loyalty to the Habsburgs, especially as any Serb efforts to cause problems would be focused on Croatia, something Serbia would have a far, FAR harder time pulling a Ferdinand moment for due to the unique circumstances involved, especially as I see both Germany and Russia trying to contain any incident from escalating resulting in diplomatic action over war or a very limited largely proxy conflict of a war that is probably nothing more then a border skirmish.
Especially as Italy might be more interested in eating Dalmatia for itself than protecting Croatia putting Serbia in a very difficult position for further expansion beyond a division of Croatia with Italy as both Italy and Germany are too strong to stand against alone, and the dream of a Greater Serbia is already achieved severely limiting the radicalism of Serbian expansionism, especially as Russia would have little interest in such things for quite some time as it deals with its never-ending internal issues.
What if Rome and all of Europe converted to Mithraism?
Yesss
We know barely anything about the religion, It’s impossible for it to spread as it was a secret society and worshipped a greco-persian god. The Christians would simply start the civil war and take over.
A world too different for him to predict after 476? Like what do you want from such a scenario "oh, the empire still mostly collapses around the same way but Islam might be butterflied out and all the politics of Europe are different so who knows. Culturally Europe is a different world too"
It would end up being Europe but with Mithraism and no Christianity. Islam probably gets butterflied as a result but the majority of events are too difficult to predict with that single change.
Went from drunken men partying to hard to the collapse of Austria-Hungry.
Might I make a suggestion for a video idea?
It's another viewer voted type of video, but it's for the Russo-Japanese War.
What if everything went perfectly for Bavaria?
love your videos
you should do another CZcamsr conference frfr
I think Germany would win WWI because
1)Italy has no claims on it or german allies, so it will probably join against french to regain Savoy and Corsica+Tunis against Slovenia if they join Entente
2)Romania is probably will join their side for Moldova, and even if they join Entente they would do nothing except taking Volksrepublics.
3) Britain would probably stay neutral or even join germans because of fear of russia, which is already strong as hell.
4) Absence of Austria means less frontline to hold
Been waiting for this to drop for a while now and finally after 7 world wars, it's here!
I would see logical from germany to try and use his territory on Transilvania to purchase Romanian and Serbian allegiance.
I can see germany even helping Greece too ecenomically, and even helping even further the balkans once the belgrade pack forms against thr Bulgarians once the ottomans go puf.
Then they surely would go on to try to make italy and Brittan their mjaor allies
I have à quite complex idea for à next scenario.
On the 12th-13th century, Europe know a intellectual revolution due to the translation of Ancient texts from arabic traductions (just for example the almost-entire aristotelian corpus, or a lot neoplatonicians works).
So I imagine the uchrony: what if the arabs don't had the Ancients texts.
If they don't want to translate first the greeks and syriacs ancients texts, for example only accept the coranic text as a accepted and legal texts), their politics will be radicaly différents.
As same for Europe, wich stey in a evolved version of a still feudal mentality of the 11th century.
If you want more informations I can bring you a good bibliography about this subject !
Btw it was a great vidéo, like always !
Greeting from Belgium
Very very good video 👍
Yo I remember voting on this like 2 months ago
What if everything went right for italy when?
Are the borders beater or is it just me
You should do a scenario about what if the Kalmar union survived, I think it could lead to a very interesting video, just a suggestion though.
this scenario seems pretty cool actually
One small mistake regarding the map: Croatian Baranja and Medimurje weren't a part of the Croarian crown, with the former being very much majority Hungarian. It's grossly unrealistic to include them with a seceeding Croatia.
The poll for next one is so long I forgot my own lore I was trying to vote for.
Bro…. Can we please have every modern empire
Guys make sure to vote for a big ultranationalist Kazakhstan
I had Kazakhstan and the other Central Asian breakoffs stay communist, perhaps even to sway into Red China's sphere against the USSR's ultranationalist rump form.
Oh sure I will...
Nope, large capitalist Kazakhstan and ultranationalist everybody around
when are you releasing the map for the new poll
Hello again possible history
Bro went heavy on the special effects this time
Do the what if everything went perfect for the entente
Hey Possible History, I would like to offer the Idea of what if Joseph Ferdinand of Bavaria lived enough to rule in pain and prevent the was of Spanish succession, Whatcha think about that?
I think that this would be very interesting as that is a person that was not leader of a major power in our timeline (not as well known) and the premise of the Spanish Succession is intriguing, has been overly covered (e.g WW2), and does not start as a war scenario. (Diplomacy can be interesting! Peace is cool!)
This is amazing
Here is a suggestion i propose that i find intriguing
What if Franquist Spain managed to survive? What i mean by this is for the dictatorship system to have survived and for the successor to have been able to do something. maybe have the then president Carrero survive throughout all the chaos of the 70s. I genuinely don't know where it might lead
Voting for this was fun
What music did you use at the end of the video?
I forget, what is the program he makes his maps?
Intriguing. 🤔 it almost looks deceptively stable. For 1910.
Suggestion: what if the kingdom of Israel was reinstated after Ww1
Why is Voralberg not part of Switzerland at the end?
Plz "what if everything went perfectly for Ukraine" starting from 1917
yeah
It is only one thing: don't frekin disband all army cuz of socialist bullshit
It'd be interesting if you gave treaty votes for post-war worlds in alt history scenarios
Yay it’s here I’ve been waiting for this 😁
i dindt expect this to be so sad
So is this the first 'Alt History' viewer voted peace treaty?
(What I mean is that the event itself didn't happen irl)
Yeah, I mean- it is interesting. We lose some comparability, but that hopefully creates even bigger changes here and there.
Viewer votes are always fun as they engage the audience and the audience is invested in looking at the scenario.
Hopefully we get a video comparing this scenario to "Our TImeline"/Reality, with some educational explaination.
After all, it is pretty entertaining and hopefully engages people with history, seeing the when, where and why!
Good vid