How the War in Ukraine Will End
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In this video, I look at how the war in Ukraine might come to an end. After first looking at a few quick scenarois, I focus mostly on a diplomatic solution to ending the conflict and the main points of contention that will need to be addressed. These can be divided into 6 different points:
0:00 Intro
2:07 Ukrainian neutrality
4:05 Security guarantee and disarmament
6:00 Denazification of Ukraine
8:17 Suppression of the Russian language in Ukraine
12:21 The Donbas and the two breakaway republics
14:20 Crimea
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Once again, I'm sorry it's been so long since my last video. I don't normally do current events, but after a while it became clear that this was going to go on for a while, I decided this was too big of a geopolitical issue to not make at least 1 video about it. In this video I looked at some of the issues that will be key to ending this war. Or at the very least, the main points of contention.
I know this is a very controversial topic, and I tried my best to do it justice. I tried to look at what both sides would want for ending the war, and how some kind of compromise could be reached. Though, this may take several years. Things don't seem like they're going to end any time soon, unfortunately.
In case it wasn't clear from the video: I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS INVASION. Quite the opposite, actually. Just because I talk about some of Putin's claims and justifications, does not mean I agree that they are legitmate. This is especially true for point #3. As I concluded that section: it's been blown well out of proportion to justify the invasion.
There's so much of the history that I wasn't able to go into. So much of which is very relevant for understand the deeper nature of this conflict. Russia and Ukraine have a very long, complicated history.
At the end of the video, I recommend checking out Modern Conflicts over on Nebula. RealLifeLore does a great job of explaining some of the history between these two countries. Best way to get access is through the CuriosityStream bundle deal, it's on sale right now for $14.79 for an entire year.
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Thanks so much for watching, I promise it won't be as long until my next video!
Love that you're back:), looking forward to the next vid
That's what you said last time :P
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nuanced research on current events? on my internet? madness
Dang, that's a lot of dead Nazi's but where are all the Swastikas?
"Smart people learn from everything and everyone, average people from their experiences and stupid people already have all answers" Socrates
What's the proof of your source?
Prejudice toward people
@@TheSpiritombsableye Socrates
@@TheSpiritombsableye thats just a quote about humans
Thank you!!
How is no one talking about the higher production quality in this video? If your normal videos are excellent then this video is outstanding! Keep up the amazing work.
Blm.
Video quality is good, but content wise was just Wikipedia level quality. Cherry picked data to muddy the waters. He is just spreading the Russian narrative that Ukraine has a Nazi problem, and can’t even consider the fact that Ukraine can win this war
Jos Putin välittää omista kansalaisista, hän lopettaisi sodan Ukrainaa vastaan, lähtisi Venäjälle katsomaan, miten pahoin luonnonmullistukset ovat Moskovaa ja muuta Venäjää kohdelleet. Hän voisi olla nyt oman kansansa tukena.Netissä oli todella pahoja tulvia ym. Joten Kaikkivaltias Jumala puuttui peliin.olisi hyvä, jos tekisitte oikeita johtopäätöksiä.
the real question is why is the creator saying russia only wants demilitarization and denazification when thats not the case.
Video creators logic "oh look a symbol similar to another one" must be nazis.
Dude need to look up the tornado battalion that was shut down because they where way to extreme... they even went to jail in Ukraine for it.
Want to know how many % of the votes the far right party got in the election. 2, that is all.
What are we going to do about the Russian Z sign? Its deffenetly a swastica or have the same symbolism and meaning. Also it is basically azovs symbol excluding the line in the middle. I know multiple ppl from Azov and not a single guy is a nazi. Stop spreading this russian propaganda bs
Thank you for not skipping over the controversies in Ukraine. Obviously none of this justifies what Russia is doing, but if you bring it up anywhere else and try to have even a whisper of nuance, you'll get lambasted as Pro-Russia.
Thank you. I appreciate that. It was certainly a challenge to find the right balance.
yeah you point out all the fash patches on pics of Ukrainian soldiers and you get screamed at. like it wasn't me that put 14 88 on my chest
@@giantfrigginnerd It's becaus at beast, it's hypocritical, at worst, it's misleading.
@@kamikaze5528 Yep. Russia's got their own Nazi divisions, decked out even with the Nazi salute
@@Tytoalba777 Can you name me at least 1 such division?
Honestly, I have to say that it’s a bit surreal to still be watching you after this long of a time. I’m 18 and have been watching you since I was about 10, I’d say. I’ve been very active in this whole history/geography/educational side of CZcams, I’m sure you know what I’m talking about, and your amazing, thoughtful videos, even if seldom uploaded, are truly a huge contribution to the entire community! Thank you WonderWhy!
I'm in the same boat lol, funny there are more people like this out there
@@HenkdeCZcamssteen I'm one of them!
@@HenkdeCZcamssteen I figured, lol. Who do you watch a lot?
I've been watching since I was 14, and this channel literally helped me decide on my career choice
@@joaovitormatos8147 Nice! If you don’t mind me asking, what career?
Yugoslavia was never behind the iron curtain. It was one of founders of Non-Aligned movement...
So I was not the only one to spot that :X
It was still communist
@@modmaker7617 Yes, but independent…
@@modmaker7617 So what? Yugoslavia was one of the few counters that was allowed travel to both USSR and USA. It should have been non-coloured like Switzerland.
@@markoantesic4362
Commies are on the commie team. Yugoslavia is commie not truly neutral
The Budapest Memorandum doesn't say anywhere in it that anyone is going to come to Ukraine's defense. It says that the countries signing it would respect Ukraines borders. The US and UK did that. Russia broke the Budapest Memorandum. But there was no built in punishment in that memorandum if a country were to break it.
exactly. I don't know how so many CZcamsrs get this wrong. It is like none of them know how to read a treaty.
@@mariopineda4774 Yeah I don't get how so many people get that wrong about the Budapest Memorandum either. It was not a security guarantee treaty. It was just a "I promise not to invade you" treaty signed by 3 nations. And Russia is the one who broke it.
You're absolutely right. I didn't mean to imply that the Budapest Memorandum was a security guarantee, and that the US and UK broke it. My point was to contrast that agreement from anything that Ukraine might be willing to sign for a 2022 peace deal. Russia has violated just about every clause of the Memorandum (expect the nuclear weapons one), so as I said in the video, any peace deal could not simply be between just Russia and Ukraine - because Ukraine would understandably not trust any agreement with Russia, without a 3rd party to hold them accountable.
And as you pointed out, there was no punishments for breaking the agreement, something that an agreement today would absolutely need. I don't see anything like an article 5 guarantee that Zelensky is after happening, but there would need to be some kind of explicit consequences in writing for breaking the agreement. Unfortunately, any such agreement would be incredibly difficult, and will either take several years, or never happen.
@@WonderWhy I agree with your reply to my comment there. I think the war ends/continues on in 4 different possible routes.
Option 1: the war continues on for years.
Option 2: the was has a semi-official ending while Ukraine and Russia are still at war like the situation in Korea.
Option 3: and probably the best option for Ukraine is that the Russian people overthrow Putin or find someway to get a new leader who can end the war for them.
Option 4: Russia wins the war outright and forces Ukraine to the peace table and gets a bunch of Ukraines land (this option could only happen after many years of war or the Russians find a way to change the leadership in Ukraine quickly).
@@PhillyPhanVinny it will be 4 and it will happen before summer next year. Probably during the first months of 2023. That's when elections in the US end and then the situation will change and one of the changes could be that the US lets this war end by simply stopping the weapon delivery (sorry we are all out, our national security is at stake, good luck)
There's also the issue of natural resources. Russia invaded shortly after Ukraine signed deals with western energy companies to utilize their gas fields. And now Russia is trying to take and hold the specific parts of Ukraine that have the natural gas fields. Hmm. Could that be possibly related?
Hey, ...that is America's meme! You can not simply give it to the Russians!
(Even if you are completely correct on the subject.)
See some education videos from US Professor John Mearsheimer, he explains what US working on and planned in Ukraine since 2013.
All Professor John Mearsheimer predicted, we now see happening.
@@andrehunter1295 🙄
@@andrehunter1295 Mearsheimer didn't think Putini would actually invade.
@@andrehunter1295 true
Whoever wins this war, it will leave the loser hellbent on revenge.
so we need Ukraine to loose because they will have nothing.
I'm sure the war has nothing to do with the oil that was discovered on off the coast of Crimea in the black sea and in Eastern Ukraine. If Ukraine was able to access that resource then they'd be able to threaten Russia's monopoly on European gas supply
Yes, i´m sure a deposit that places Ukraine as the 26th largest in the world is going to dethrone Russia´s number 1 spot.
Oh wait...
Koolaid is a hell of a drink!
@@Biden_is_demented M.O.N.O.P.O.L.Y
@@ShadowPhoenixMaximus not true russia actually controls oilfields of donbass(by their proxies ) to a point that Ukr paid the rebels for gas supply and the ex President poroshenko was accused of finding the rebels by zelensky
Russia seeking oil was Chechen War during Yeltsin. Afterwards and even then during Putin, Chechen 2nd War wasnt about oil anymore up till now but ofc, we gotta use something mainstream like US and oil so others have to be like that
I'm glad you're back. Great video, good to see your work on this subject
Really great video, I appreciate the time and care you took in ensuring correct pronunciation and facts
holy crap, wasnt expecting a video from you today!
The production quality on this one is through the roof. As it should be with something this current and this serious.
Let's face it guys, this is gonna be another never ending war like in Syria 10 years ago
Will be another Afghanistan 1980-1989 for Russia!!
do you really think putler will survive ten more years? he is fucking 69 in a country where males rarely live up to be 45 and now he is barred from western medicine
the second he dies all troops will return home
russia better pray it is not a long conflict. russia will collapse if it is economically and politically. Really they are already dregging up 1950's soviet tanks and really old equipment now. In 1 year russia will literally not have a military left.
Seems like this video wasn't promoted by CZcams. Seems crazy for such a high quality creator. I've been watching for years. Keep the great work coming! Thanks for everything
Because if it were to be promoted people would look down on YT
When WonderWhy uploads. It is a good day indeed
It's weird to think that people murder other people because someone drew a line in the sand hundreds of years ago.
It's more like people forced to kill other people, cause otherwise they would go to jail ( well it Russian that's so)
Putin: Ukrainian is just Russian with an accent. Also Putin: The Russian language is being suppressed in Ukraine!
That reminds me of the situation between Bulgaria and Macedonia. Bulgarians basically say that we the Macedonians are just bulgarians who speak serbianized dialect of bulgarian, while at the same time say that we have antibulgarian narrative.
Fixed: the literature Russian language is being suppressed in Ukraine by the countryside dialect speakers.
The main condition for dialect to become language is a literature standard. Ukrainian one was created in late XIX century from different countryside dialects. The principe for the creators was to make the language as far from Russian as it could be. There was another project, closer to Russian (ironically, that project came from Lvov, the most anti-Russian city nowadays), but the final version was created by Kievian group. And to understand the whole background you need to know that the most common language in cities like Kiev, Ekaterinoslav (Dnepr), Aleksandrovsk (Zaporozhie), Chernigov was russian, the muscovite one. It was simply an attribute of any educated person - to speak literature language and not dialect. Like in modern Bavaria you mostly hear local dialect of German mostly from people came from countryside, not that are living in the center of Munich.
In this video, author mentioned the Stalin’s policy towards Ukrainians. However, it was like swing in the USSR. During the early soviet rule, while Ukraine formally was independent, the policy of indigenization started. People without any national identity in the countryside was told that they are proud Ukrainians, the education on standardized Ukrainian language had begun. During the period of inter-party struggle, while Lenin already died, but Stalin didn’t got all the power that he achieved in 30’s, that policy continued. In the first soviet population census, any citizen that identified himself as “malorussian”, or “little Russian”, had been recorded as Ukrainian. Soviet education system in Ukraine promoted local literature authors, even if people wasn’t interested in them so much. After the Stalin’s era Kruschov came to power and the policy was again in favor of ukrainization. Brezhnev reversed it again, two old guys didn’t really changed something, and Gorbachev just gave all these matters to local communist parties, which were in favor of… you guessed it.
All that text above is to describe how synthetic Ukrainian identity was from the beginning, just like if northern Englishmen were creating their own Northumbrian identity, creating their language with lot of Celtic words to just separate it from “Londoners” english, and claiming even more land that shares similar dialects. And then commies in Britain take power and for concrete their rule they decide to rely on those guys, promoting Northumbrian identity.
@@antonotter9757 I love how you wrote all that long paragraph when most linguists agree that the dialect/language distinction is a useless categorization and has heavy political connotations. China wants to call Cantonese, hokkien, hakka as dialects? Well whatever. Meanwhile Indonesians and Malays calling their quite similar standardized "dialects" as languages? That works too.
That a lie
@@smokex3652 No. Russians and Ukrainians are different nations. Ukrainians are Slavs. Russians are Fino Ugrians
I'm expecting this conflict to go on much like the middle east "until the Ukrainian army has too much difficulty being manned and sustained" and then turning into an insurgency like situation with an eventual buffer zone set between Ukraine and Russia, because let's be logical here. Russia invaded for a land grab, oil, more access to the sea, and a larger buffer zone, but I hope to god this conflict ends sooner then later, no need for all these lives to be stripped away.
Russia will never stop though. Even if the current active phase temporarily stops it will reinvigorate anew in 5-10 years anyway. So stopping this now at any costs would actually mean that we'll need to pay even more in the future. Russia just needs to be defeated and forced to back off from the Western side of its border once and for all.
@@datbunneh3671 you got some good points, let's just hope that won't be the case
@@datbunneh3671 It's a terrible idea to try to defeat Russia. Despite their military's incompetence in first 2 months of an invasion they are still a nuclear power and have enough Soviet armor and small arms stored to sustain complete mobilization and war for more than a decade. The best possible way this can end is Ukraine gives up it's current occupied territories and accepts it's status as a politically neutral buffer zone between Russia and NATO.
@@slavicemperor8279 No, it's actually a terrible idea. Because you assume that neutrality is what so called Russia wants. When in reality they just want to expand their borders and accrue new recruits for future wars. And they will continue to do so no matter how much you placate them. When defeating so called Russia will become an option? When they invade Germany? Or perhaps when they invade Portugal. It won't happen soon, but it will happen unless it's stopped. And the further you wait the harder it will get.
@@slavicemperor8279 Wrong, wrong and wrong.
There have been efforts to map out Russia's entire stocks of armor, depot by depot. Numbers are around 6-7k tanks of all variants combined, 3000 of which are confirmed visually to be rusted scrap beyond repair, half going as far as just straight up missing turrets and being piled up one onto the other as if it's a car junk. All major tank plants have also closed off, due to lack of resources, so no new production to replace losses either.
Russia has already lost around 1.3k tanks which can be visually confirmed picture by picture(The unconfirmed destroyed ones number around 500 additionally.)
Russia has been pulling entire convoys of AFVs and heavy artillery from Irkutsk and other areas to subsidize losses, which shows an increasing desperation.
Small arms are worthless to an imperialist empire in the 21st century. Without the necessary branches to support infantry: APCs, Tanks, etc, giving guns to patriotic 40yo boomers is both idiotic and a danger to your own state's security. (They'll die by the droves, each stupid loss increasing the chance of units rebelling against you, or at least not following orders.)
Due to corruption, half of Russia's tanks are inoperabile, and when one branch of the military experiences rot, so do all the others. From that it's fair to assume their nuclear arsenal is also more underwhelming than in the propaganda (Kiselev's "Submarine that could nuke the UK in one swoop" was later found on satellite images half scrapped at a port north of Murmansk.)
Not to mention, nobody is an idiot. To press the big button, Putin's decision has to go through a conga line of officials, none of which will favor turning the entire world against them over such a stupid idea. It takes only one of them interfering to block the entire process indefinitely.
As for mobilisation, impossible due to social and political reasons. The moment Putin declares mobilisation he signs both himself and his own country's stability a death wish. The Russians will not fight, no matter how many studies on "how much they support his war" are conducted. It's easy to support something that doesn't bother you in any way. When he'll declare martial law, he effectively turns at least every major and slightly well off city, including Moscow his enemy. It's easy to sweep it under the rug when poor sods from Tuva or Buryatia are fighting the war, but the spoiled guy from St.Petersburg, Moscow or even someplace like Chelyabinsk would rip Putin's head off before he's forcefully sent to the front of a war he has no commitment to, on certain death.
So glad you're back let's go
Can you do another video about the humanitarian cost of the war?
Thanks for covering this important issue.
Damn this is the most serious video WonderWhy has ever posted
Oh shit he's back, this is a great day
Your proposal for Donbas as being reintegrated with Ukraine with special regional autonomy status was already attempted in the framework of the Minsk 2 agreement. Unfortunately that failed spectacularly so I doubt either side is willing to trust enough to make another attempt
It is good, but it kinda failed. Best bet for peace is that Donbas no longer is apart of Ukraine and it is either independent or apart of Russia. Most Donbas people want that anyways.
@@KingK2205 most donbass people are morally in the wrong
@@sababugs1125 how?
@@KingK2205 because they want to separate
@@KingK2205 actually that’s not true, there’s a very large pro Ukraine movement in the occupied territories at the moment. If they wanted to be part of Russia that wouldn’t be the case
Brilliant video. Highly informative.
This was bloody good, very interesting thank you
There are two obvious points in this conflict. They are parallel to each other.
1. Russia fears Ukraine's accession to the EU. Since the economies of Russia and Ukraine are closely connected with each other. But Russia is even more afraid of Ukraine joining NATO. Since NATO is considered an anti-Russian organization.
2. The rulers (oligarchs, businessmen) of Russia and Ukraine are intertwined in the territories of both countries. And now there is a business war going on.
Russia does not always protect Russians in Russia. But he loves to protect Russians in Ukraine. This is a fact. And we (Russians) see it. It is difficult for me to understand what caused the beginning of the conflict. I don't need the deaths of Ukrainians or Russians. Those Russians who rejoice in this war will never become close to me.
Hello to everyone from the Arkhangelsk village near Moscow! 🇷🇺
Thank for your clear thinking and lucidity. Here in the UK we don't want any war or hostility between us and Russia, we just want peace, sovereignty and democracy in Europe. I hope one day you have a government that respects democracy the Russian people and the people of Europe.
@@jibjub2121 I don't believe it will ever happen. I only now (at 36) understood why everyone is afraid of the Russian bear.
There is also a problem in the Russian opposition: she doesn't look convincing. There is a feeling that when others come to power, nothing will change. But hungry people will come to power. Which haven't been stolen yet. But they will do it. Under any mask - democracy, liberalism, socialism, nationalism or something else.
As you're Russian, I do want to know how has the economic "crisis" really affected you if at all?
@@jibjub2121 "Democracy" in the EU lmfao
as a Cuban, I’m on the side of Ucrania on this, but hello from Camaguey!
If this channel can become something like Caspian Report, then it could be something special
Thanks for that. There was some information of which I was not aware.
Thank you for recommending a series from one another one of my favorite CZcamsrs, #RealLifeLore.
"Only the dead have seen the end of war."
Well said my friend , Not a truer word said, this is just the start of the end
That's a great overview and although a balanced representation of the current state of affairs.
Thanks for the great work, and I approve the content of the video.
Thank you for your efforts
The language thing doesn't make sense. Ukraine is it's own country with it's own language. Russia has no right to force people in a foreign land to speak their language.
Nonsense
Im from Ukraine, russian speaker myself but know ukrainian perfectly, most of us are bilingual. There is no problem of language, every russian speaker here can prove it, we living in peace and understand each other languages. The statement of suppresion russian language its just propaganda and justification of war
@@user-ox9kw2kk9d that's what i was saying. We in my country are starting to only teach in our language and the russians are getting mad and saying that we are oppressors but it's the countries only official language and all of the russians in my countries came here after it was occupied. We don't have to speak russian unless we are in russia.
Have you ever heard of this little nation called Belgium? Of course a country can have more then 1 language. Heck we have two. Dutch and Frisian
There are countries with more than one language, Belgium , Canada. Th difference is they don't try to phase out the other.
Great video, and I think you've remained largely unbiased. Well done
My guess would be that it will end like the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions. A multi-year guerrilla-style conflict that will just slowly wind down until it concludes with nothing really changed.
There will be no guerrilla war. Half of the entire population of Ukraine either left for other countries or moved further to the west of Ukraine. In the occupied regions (Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporozhye, Kherson) there are no partisans and relatively calm
It is not a secret that most of eastern Ukraine is very pro-Russian. Also taken into account that Ukrainian culture and Russian culture is mostly similar and there is zero language barrier since 9 out of 10 Ukrainian speak Russian
@@serhiy-serhiiv 2021 pop of Donetsk is 900k, in 2013 it was 947k, bro just do a quick google search instead of saying wrong things, Donetsk population have been decreasing way before the war happen anyway
@@lequochao7105 Most of Ukraine? Less than 30% are ethnic russians and many ethnic russians are fighting in the Ukranian army.
Or like the first Armenia Azerbaijan war where Armenia won the first conflict but lost eventually. The same fate is also awaited for Russia if somebody will tell zelensky to work smart and cede for a while and upgrade the armed forces to NATO standards. The fact he is fighting a senseless war for now. But he should not hold an Indian policy when it comes to ceding territories to Russia.
Happy new year 😁
Thanks for the video
A main problem of the status of Crimea is water. Should the water supplies, reopened at the beginning of the Russian invasion, stay open?
The Autonomous regions idea has already been tried. It was called the Minsk Agreements, and it never worked.
Where have u been mate i missed ur videos a lot. this video explains everything thanks a lot and btw love ur Scottish accent
All Russia's "reasons" are false from the start. For example, we Gringos could come up with such a list but it wouldn't justify us in invading Canada.
(Oh, WAIT! We did that just a couple hundred years ago. But when the Canadians took offense at our invasion, we let them to be Canadians.)
But, this is just how power-mad RedNazi dictators ARE.
Brb setting my alarm for 6 months time for the next upload
Nah jk, great video and thanks for the hard work as always! 🙌
0:30 This illustration actually shows a stalemate. I'm impressed.
Having said that, this situation has no real parallel in war. It is often used when the warring parties are of approximately equal strength so that none of them can make decisive gains. This is not at all the case in chess. Same as shown in the illustration, one side may easily have crushing superiority, but the other cannot make a legal move.
Whichever way the war ends in Ukraine, it will not be similar to a stalemate. This again proves that a game is just a game, even if inspired by war.
This is no chess game..I love chess my best game but this are not pieces on a board..this are real lives being lost and an existential threat to all life on earth..human animals and plants..this is no game.
@@oluoch49eo It's what I wrote, isn't it? A game (chess) is still just a game even if inspired by war. Even the metaphor about a stalemate is flawed as the clear rules involved in this situation in chess do not apply in the barbaric reality of war.
@@erikt1713 we have a guy who is king queen rook castle and bishop..he's just sending the pawns to war"Huston we have a perfect storm" and yea he doesn't play by the rules.!we got a loose bear 🐻 in the world 🌎.
And don't forget the Knights!the nuclear war heads.
I know my people 🇷🇺 and the people of Ukraine 🇺🇦 well. The seeds of hatred are planted very deeply. This war will not end. There will be peace for a while.
Russia have sent their mercenaries in Ukraine and leader of the mercenaries - is an neo-nazi. Also Rogozin was leading neo-nazi marches in 90. Maybe russia should denazify themselves? Also, despite the symbolic, Azov members are different nations, religions. Ukrainian language is country language, and it should be use as an official language, you still can speak any language within your family or with your friends. And if you take russian point of view here, tell me where is ukrainian language in russian region called Cuban? This region more then half populated by ethnic ukrainians but there is no ukrainian in school, no media in ukrainian, not even sites are obligated (or given a choice) to release they content in ukrainian language. Russia is a country of double standards, they always pointing out about others problem, but ignoring the same problems in russia.
Nope wrong. Russia actually didn't ignore its NeoNazi problem. Most of them either ended up in prison or had to completely abandon their ideology. Ukraine on the other hand actively promoted them and made them the mainstream.
@@chepushila1 I doubt that, Russian administration has far more fascistic trait than Ukrainian counterpart. Azov and others are product of previous Ukrainian government, they no doubt created some greyhairs on Zelensky˙s head.
@@chepushila1 so much in prison, that Rogozin are in charge of roskosmos. Also, any proofs of imprisoning? Cause internet definitely have proofs of jews and azerbaijanis within azov battalion, which already makes their "neo-nazi" status questionable. Azov were created by neo-nazi, yes, but after joining Ukraine's official military - they are simply not allowed to be nazis. Tho, azov is a nationalist group probably saying anti-russia would fit better, than just nationalist. Also, russia still haven't admitted a single warcrime of their army, whilst Ukraine is judging guys, who did bad things to captives. I don't even know why I trying to convince someone, who probably works for 15 rubles per comment.
@@chepushila1 that's why Wagner group is so active in Russia's main battle front, right? Cause you know their leader is a Nazi and so... Well I'm kinda confused here
Great video!
the animation is amazing
They've also been talking about "denazifying" Poland. I don't think it will end soon, sadly.
If Russia wants to swing at Poland let them. Poland is not Ukraine, they will mop the floor with Russia by the time they move an inch across the border
@@5tarSailor Polish, I assume? You guys seem to understand that this is your fight too. Or at least it will be soon if you don't do anything. You're doing a great job of providing support to Ukraine.
@@JustOneAsbesto no I'm not Polish, but I do understand that Poland is tired of being pushed around and invaded just for existing.
@@5tarSailor Oh. Yeah. And usually by political pacts that somehow always seem to include Russia...
And now they are also considering to stop recognizing the Baltic states as independent from USSR. It's like they are asking for trouble.
Important notes: its not "being neutral" when its not mentioning the worst atrocities, its treating Russian 19th century Imperialist claims as legitimate in the 21st century and not mentioning their violation of the UN charter on the sovereignty of nations they have violated since 2014... how untrustworthy the Putin regime is with regards to any international treaty... and then how would anything "negotiated" with Russia be enforced?... especially if Ukraine is forced to stay neutral itself,.. who is going to stop Russia from reloading and regrouping and restarting a new offensive after the next ceasefire when they are ready...
With a shred of shame one wouldn't even be willing to write such a lengthy comment blaming wholly Russia!
This conflict was provoked in the West (NATO). Now the Russians think they will over run Ukraine in few weeks and NATO thought this is an opportunity to make "Russia-Afghanistan 2.0" now it blew on their face! Sending weapons expecting Ukrainians will able to halt Russians advances, rather what we are seeing a carnage of civilians and the weak Ukrainain military.
Your politicians are still not talking about a peaceful settlement of this conflict.
This is sad without regards to the human lives.
I would counter this by saying if the world can still deal with the US after the war in Iraq, the disaster in Afghanistan, breaking the Iran nuclear deal, egging on the Syrian civil war among other issues, the world can deal with Russia.
@@johnnyvonjoe correction Russian bot. US did not have any territorial gains in the countries you mentioned unlike the imperialist Nazi Russia.
@@leolei9014 Oh so it's okay to break international agreements, invade countries, bomb countries, fund civil wars from afar but as long as you don't physically steal their land you're okay? Is that what you're saying?
@@johnnyvonjoe the US never threatned nuclear war or invaded democracies
interesting, well done
(long post about most points from someone who lived in "break out region" during war start in 2014, and who moved away in 2017, after local bandits started fight for power, and when almost all services stopped working, so city became like living in 4rd wolrd country)
Putin in yesterdays meeting said that he is like Peter the Great, and that he is "collecting Rossian lands" and want to "unitre Rossia like it was 100+ years ago". And said that "Peter the Great was getting what were always ours. Whole Europe said that those lands belonged to Sweden and disagreed, but Peter did not cared and just won with military power". So he is basically saying that real reason for war - is imperialistic expansion, cocupation and conquering new lands, and that he will not stop on Ukraine, and that he does not care on international rules.
Also, what suppression of Russian language? If there was a suppression of language - it would be Ukrainian, as in many cities Ukrainian was seen as "language for villagers and dumb people". Mariupol is Donbass region (Donetsk oblast) and it was under Ukrainian rule this 8 years - and it was one of fastest developing city in Ukraine. Official site was on Russian and Ukrainian language, Mayor of city was pro-Russian. City had more than dozen Russian-speaking schools that were teaching on Russian language. Almost 98% of people in Ukraine KNOW Ukrainian language, while around 20-25% do NOT know Russian. Also, such laws have most of countries, Russia have even worse language laws and they had destroyed dozens of indigenous languages in the Republics they own. Language laws are basically "on state TV much be subtitles in Ukrainian when other languages are used", then "state documents all will be on Ukrainian" and similar laws - and you will see such laws almost everywhere. Russia themselves have similar laws and even much more strict, and yet it is not a problem for some reason.
Also, territory that is now under Russia - Kuban, just in 1926 had 62% of Ukrainians and Ukrainian language there was 47% spoken. Donbass region had 80% Ukrainians and 50% Ukrainian spoken in 1918. However, after Stalin's Holodomor/Genocide and then "repopulation" of those lands, numbers changed drastically. Donbass became just 52% Ukrainians and language was 40% spoken. Kuban became 5% Ukrainian and language just 7% spoken. The part of Donbass that was taken from Ukraine in 1923 and given to Russia (and it is still in Russia) also had similar fate to Kuban, there only 1.6% of Ukrainians left.
Also, far right and nazi problem? Right wing parties COMBINED got only 2% of votes in last 2 elections. Nationalist candidate to President got less than 1% of votes. The whole "nazi regiment" was just 800 people (and many of them ended in prison, also). So 800 people in 40 millions country? That is nothing, not even a fraction of a procent.
All parties in current parliament are centrist or left-wing. Only and out of 450 deputees - only ONE is right wing/nationalist. A single one.
In Russia this problem is much bigger. Plus Putin said himself that he is "ultranationalist" and want make everything - Russia.
Plus, you can check Russia themselves - if you check "renting services" in Moscow or St.Petersburg, you will find "interesting thing". Last year Russian Civil Rights organization made a research, and they found out that 17% of all renting services in Russia have "Only for Whites/Only for Slaivc" signs on them. And in some services, like spa - this number can be raised up to 30% - so people in general are xenophobic there. In Ukraine no such thing exist. So Russia would better fix this "nazi problem" in their own borders first, and only then go other countries.
Especially considering that power in Ukraine changed 2 times (so were 3 powers - "temporary", Poroshenko and Zelensky, same with Parliament - 3 of them were during this time), and current President is Russian-speaking Jewish man, while in Russia power havent changed in last 23 years.
I am myself from Donestk, and overwhelming majority of people fighting there - were Russians. Mainly from "economically depressive regions" - so they did not even looked like Ukrainans. Most of them were asians (Buryats, Tatars, Yakuts, Dagestans, Chechens, etc). Only westerners/slavic groups among them were Wagner Group and Russich Group - who were fully russian ultranationalistic groups, with their leader being open neo-nazi. However, they are "officially not registered in Russia", so even thought majority of them are Russians and they are doing what Russian generals say them to do, "officially" it is not Russian military. But those groups left Ukraine in 2015 and went to fight in Syria and Yemen.
And what about countries like France, who had 35% of voters voting for far-right ultranationalists with neo-nazis in leading roles? It is 30 times bigger issue than in Ukraine, and it also means that a lot of people are supporting that position, not like in Ukraine, where this group just exist and have no support among anyone.
Also, "fair voting" and "referendum" is ridiculous. Russia/DPR/LPR only held 1/3 of the territories. And yet they did voting for 100% of territories, also did it just randomly, with armed people everywhere, and Russian military also had a right to vote, so it was just a farce. Plus many who were pro-Ukrainian ended up in "Isolation" prison, which is more like a torture chambers, than prison.
Also, "separatists" governemnts were all this time in Moscow, they weren't in place. One of them never even was in Luhansk, and just born in Russia and never entered Ukraine. Plus majority of people there were under Ukrainian territory. Up to 50% of people living under Russian control - fled the territory in 2014-2021 years. So it is as fake as it can get. Today there are more separatists than there were before, mainly because Russia had banned Ukrainian language completely there, were jamming Ukrainian signals and were spreading own propaganda 24/7. In Donetsk they had a car with TV's and cars with Loud Speakers that were almost all the time showing Russian propaganda on repeat. When one of such was ending near my house, it was annoying, as was too loud. You could saw "modernized version" of such truck in Mariupol during current war.
Also about Yanukovich - he tried to cancel next elections, he banned freedom of speech, he banned ability to go on protests, he changed his political course 180 degrees from one that he was elected for, he tried to give himself almost supreme power, and became unchangeable dictator. WHAT ELSE people were supposed to do? Just accept becoming slaves now? Or what? And do you know that we have dozen of thousands people in Donetsk protesting against Yanukovich, because he BETRAYED people of Donetsk?
Ofc in 2019 they wanted to go NATO, because of how Russia was behaving, harassing and attacking Ukraine for decade. They just wanted some protection, any protection. Ukraine even asked China once about it. Because Russia already attacked Ukraine twice, did a lot of economical pressure - at least 5-6 times they implemented different extra taxes, sanctions or pushed prices, so Ukraine wanted to break that dependancy. If not Russia - Ukraine would never be applying or wanting to go to NATO. Russia guilty in this for themselves. Until Russia started harassing Ukraine in around 2002 - majority of Ukrainians were pro-alliance with Russia and against EU. But every year Ukrainians wanted less and less to do with Russia, because of how abusive Russia was to them. Also, Ukraine never was a neutral state. Plus, almost all new NATO members after 2000s - are all were asking to protect them from Russia. They all lived through Russian occupation, and Russia was threatening all of them with war, so they applied to NATO. Also, Russia have broken ALL agreements about peace and peace treaties - with Georgia, with Chechnya, with Ukraine - so there no real way to defend from them, there no way to trust them. The only way is to join some defensive alliance, so Russia will not want to attack you again. Russia attacked Chechnya twice, Georgia thrice, Ukraine thrice. They just getting a bit, then making peace treaty/agreement, regrouping, few years later - coming again and taking more. Then they wait again few years and attacking again, they never have enough, they always attack again and demand even more, every time attacking with bigger force.
Thank you for taking the time to write this all out. Anyone who defends Russian aggression generally bases their opinion on the ignorance or denial of the information you have presented here.
Short version : I have no idea what the solution is ! OK....so it's stalemate for the next 25 years then ? The rest of the World has other problems to think about. Most people are already bored hearing about Ukraine . Sorry but that's how it is....
@@2msvalkyrie529 don't care about Ukraine - Ukraine doesn't care about your food prices. You can starve.
Sorry, but that's how it is😔
truth!
Honestly, everything except neutrality and long range missiles ban is not worth compromising at all. Why would anyone except for Ukraine itself decide which language to use and what military groups to have in its ranks. Putin was meddling with internal UA affairs for far too long and with his actions during this war he should be charged with war crimes and not getting gifts.
Because Ukraine's behavior is criminal, immoral and reprehensible. Ukraine got away with too much these past 8 years.
right on bud charged by war crimes by who? the folks who run The Hague are war criminals themselves.
Great video.
Thanks for an excellent video.
I can't see a diplomatic solution ever being negotiated simply because they would never agree to hand over land such as the Donbass and Crimea. So the only way this ends is militarily. One side or the other capitulates and can no longer fight the war in which case the winner takes all. Or a stalemate which leads to an armistice similar to how the Korean war ended and now have two very hostile sides neighbouring each other ready to go to war at a moment's notice over perceived or real past injustices.
You'd need to make everything east of the Dnipro River a buffer zone like the one in Cyprus if the latter happens...
If 30% of a country's population speaks a specific language it should be a offical language.
I think if like more than 10 to 20% of the population speaks a language it should be offical
or just be like the US and not have an official language
Nkt official but respected regional minority language. As a German, we have Sorbian in eastern Saxony and south eastern Brandenburg.
Quite reasonable analysis. I agree that the conflict may last for years to come.
Wb mate.. Long time no hear..
Personally I think the war won’t end but the fighting will might end up like a north South Korea situation with a demilitarisation zone between the armies
why people pretend that putler will survive for more than 10 years?
Think Russian population with it loses won’t accept that.
@@tsartomato Even if he wouldn`t , he has a lot of people around him who will continue what he had started
@@ameliahalsted6136 naaaah
continue to rob population - yes
continue to lose their own money on stupidity and being hated by the population - no
we have 200 years of experience every next ruler declares the previous one wrong and malicious that's how they continue and continue to rob people by promising that this time will be different
@@tsartomato Yes , it's sad, but absolutely true
Appreciate the nuance you put into the language question, many people often overlook the historical context and think that everyone who speaks Russian here must be pro-Russia, i am myself a Russian speaking Ukrainian with a Russian grandmother, but am pro-Ukrainian as i don't think anyone in their right mind can support what Russia is doing, the immense suffering and death they have caused. I remember when a friend from Donetsk called me talking about how armed thugs took government buildings and now demanding independence, all this despite massive pro-Ukrainian protests taking place in Donetsk during the revolution, later they tried to force him into the military and would blackmail university students to join pro-Russia rallies or be expelled, or conscripted into their military, how they would put their artilleries and fire at both sides Ukrainian and their own cities to discredit Ukrainian military and convince people Ukraine was trying to kill them. The only danger to ethnic Russian in Ukraine is Russia,
You forgot to mention that armed thugs took over Kiev just a few weeks before. Clearly one friend is not an indicator of truth. Millions of people in Ukraine disagreed with the Maidan and were suppressed.
@@chepushila1 i didn't forget, that's just not what happened. Even many friends are not, but tons of video and audio evidence as well as tons of witness statements is, it's not hard to find footage of Russian tanks driving into Ukraine in 2014 and Russian soldiers happily talking about their mission in Ukraine as well as separatist calling to drown Ukraine in blood. Millions more have supported Maidan, because it was a change from the status quo of the corrupt Russian puppets, if you actually check out the old news reports from Donetsk during the Maidan revolution, the city center is packed with thousands of people voicing support for the Maidan, now compare that to bunch of old ladies bribed with 300 rubles to stand for support of DPR. I'm not here to argue with you, if you want to know the truth it's easy to find since all the old reports and investigations are all over the internet, question is whether you want to find the truth or believe a comfortable lie that validates your views, but looking at your comment it seems to be a rhetorical one, but still i would invite you to do some research.
I don't believe you. You make it too simple to be true.
@@andymudia9534 he is a western bot... if he was Russian he would know about Maidan (USA coup), Azov (Neo-Nazis), Ukraine banning Russian language (dictatorship at it's finest)....
Cracking video as ever
You know you suck at invading a country when WonderWhy has enough time to make a Full video
wait, so u expected a country to be invaded in just a couple of days?
With all due respect, it's stupid to assume that a war of such scale should end in a short time. It's gone for only 110 days or so and the Ukranians were preparing for 8 years and fortified the east heavily, yet Ukraine lost most of it's coast and the front in the east is slowly collapsing along with Ukranian military.
@@LeifErikBob Maybe not a few days, but a 2-3 months at max is what it should take for a military "powerhouse" like Russia to invade a poor country. Look at America. The Gulf war, Invasion of Iraq, and the invasion of Afghanistan all took 5-6 weeks. And that was against countries on the other side of the planet. Russia is neighbors to Ukraine and still are taking exponentially more losses for exponentially less ground than America's invasions. Hell, in a couple days Russia lost more tanks in that time than America did during the entire Gulf War, Iraq War, and War in Afghanistan combined. Russia is up to 761 confirmed tank losses so far, with the actual number probably being more than 1,000.
@@LeifErikBob "3 days to capture Kyiv"
@@dragonemperorsy2515 compared to Iraq in 2003 yeah this war was pretty unsuccessful
Honestly, if Russia quits it would be bad for their image. So they either ignore the sanctions and see the invasion to completion risking economic collapse. The second option is Ukraine agrees to a deal that will result in them losing significant amounts of their territory, Can't see anything else realistically playing out
Russia is at no risk of economic collapse in Russia lol.
Yess... Putin Bots, farm those Rubles. You're going to need them!
@@idleishde6124 Aren't rubles like kinda useless atm tho? :3c
Sanctions making Russia rich
@@theonebman7581 it’s actually stable and increased due oil demand
Any prospect of seeing debit card payment options for nebula/curiosity stream?
This is a fair video - one of the few that is available in the internet now.
Russia: "We won't stop attacking Ukraine till you take away their weapons."
Dr. Evil: "Riiiiight."
For everyone that says Russia taking over Ukraine would make a buffer-zone between itself and NATO, they seem to forget that by occupying Ukraine they directly move their border to abut NATO's border. Just an observation. Good video, though.
Russia literally annexed parts of Ukraine and expressed in state official documents its desire to annex all post soviet republics and calling them illegitimate countries
Perhaps Nato shouldn't have been greedy and moved so close while Russia did nothing but ask them to agree to the 1991 agreement.
You do now that Russia already borders Poland and Lithuania right? Also if NATO accepted Russia into the alliance and respected the 1991 verbal agreement between the US and URSS to not make NATO bigger by taking ex Warsaw pact members into the alliance maybe all of this wouldn’t occur right now…
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Great video
Watching this one year later - things have escalated more. Ukraine have missed the window of opportunity for a diplomatic solution. Russia have dramatically increased the stakes, by declaring the 4 former Ukrainian regions as part of Russia. And now the war will be long.
Ukraine is loosing now, it’s basically over. Unless some big thing happens to turn the tides, Ukraine will loose. They are failing on all fronts except for the navy front which basically does not matter in a ground war. It’s like Stalingrad for the Ukrainians for how much and quick they are loosing
@@AntiAzovIndividual "Ukraine is loosing" -AntiAzovIndividual
fucking LOL
The language issue with Ukrainian v. Russian is interesting... There's not many western countries that can understand how controversial language laws can be- Maybe with the exception of maybe Scotland, Catalonia, and Quebec....
That's quite a lot actually, but I don't think any of them are comparable since the repressed language isn't used by a neighbor trying to annex them. These are all regions that merely want independence.
@@ender7278 Most of Eastern Ukrainians don't even know Ukrainian, they only speak Russian! Since Odessa, Crimea, Donbas, Kharkov..... are originally a Russian cities and became Ukraine in 1991, idk why though...
Haven't seen you post in a while
Wow.. New video after ages 😃
“de-nazification of Ukraine” - Azov was created because there was literally no army in Ukraine to counter russian invasion of 2014. They hold 0 political power, and in “verkhovna rada”, out of 450 people, there are 0 people with direct links to Azov, 0 nazis/neo-nazis/fascists, and only 1 ultranationalist, which makes the parliament less far-right than Germany, France, Belgium, Italy, Czechia, Finland, Estonia, Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia and Hungary.
Also most of them died at Mariupol
350k votes in the parlament/= 0 political power AND influence ever since.
There's still extremists in Ukraine, and it's baffling how some people support Bandera. However, this isn't the reason for the Russian invasion at all, which is only an imperial hand grab. Just hear what putin said about how he's like an emperor.
For being a fringe movement, they certainly receive a lot of support from the government. Their members are heavily featured in political propaganda, with even the NATO twitter account posts pictures of Azov members. The Ukrainian government praises their heroism and NATO weapons are supplied to them.
The Azov Battalion, despite its small membership, is actively supported by the Ukrainian government.
Lol imagine actually believing that. They hold street power not some worthless parliamentary seats. Most MPs in Ukraine are there do launder money, not for political power.
0:45 I get how the conflict could expand to Moldowa (Transnistria) but why would it expand to Geaorgia?
Am not sure either but am guessing if the Georgians try t take back the territories the lost in 2008.
because of South Ossetia and Abkhazia I believe
@@blackmantis3130 Abkhazia was independent since the 90s, it declared independence even before Georgia! And way before Kosovo!
Check your mic volume, also make sure you are at the right distance from your mic. Don't try to eat it.
..... alles - sehr logisch
....und ..... auch ........
akademisch- hochqualitativ vorgetragen !
Well done ! Thank you !
We’re forgetting the factor that Putin is not a rational actor anymore.
If rationality means acting in the interests of your enemies, then u are right
we are forgetting that he doesn't have long to live left
@@nyakabb2472 so when you are the last king of scotland and unilaterally designate dying nato as your enemies which ended up envigorating it busting their military budget 10-20 times and added 2 new members to them increasing border that was just as planned
I might be wrong here (tbf I don't live anywhere near Ukraine), but I think the language issue shouldn't be an issue at all. It's normal for the government to encourage the use of the national language in official matters.
Let's take a look at the province of Central Java, Indonesia. It's population is almost entirely monoethnic Javanese, a lot of them speak only Javanese at home, markets, and at work. And yet, the use of the Indonesian language is mandatory in any official matters, including education, government meetings, and all official letters, even if they're dealing with other Javanese speakers. The local media is also in Indonesian, with local language media being limited to some radio stations. Why? Because Indonesian is the official language of the country, and must be regarded as such. No one has ever yelled "language oppression". We can use our local languages just fine, outside of official matters. Such is the case in other regions of Indonesia, with their own unique languages.
So my question is, if it works just fine here in Indonesia, why can't Ukraine?
Well because it is the language of a country the government doesn’t have good ties with something similar to if such happened with mandarin in American even tho it’s kinda not a good comparison
Thanks for your input.
Where Indonesian language comes from?
Was it invented from scratch like Italian?
Peculiarity of the situation in Ukraine: All members of the Government in Ukraine are Russian native speakers who have never heard authentic Ukrainian in their life.
@@achatcueilleur5746 Indonesian is a standardised version of the Malay language. Malay has been the language of trade in maritime South East Asia for centuries, which is why it's chosen (and "rebranded") as the national language Indonesian, despite the Malays making up less then 5% of the population.
Tho today colloquial Indonesian is heavily influenced by Betawi, the native language of the capital Jakarta, and Javanese, the most spoken native language.
Im from Ukraine, russian speaker my self but know ukrainian perfectly, most of us are bilingual. There is no problem of language, every russian speaker here can prove it, we living in peace and understand each other languages. The statement of suppresion russian language its just propaganda and justification of war
Objective and insightful analysis.
Wild comeback video
The denazification question could've been expanded on. At this point, every picture of Ukrainian soldiers featured in the media has become a Where's Wally game of finding nazi symbology (black suns, the SS skull, the wolfstangel...). On the other side, there's been not a lot of coverage of nazi battalions in the Russian army. As far as I know, the most prominent of them is the Wagner group. I don't know much about them. So any claims of denazification Putin makes are hypocritical at best
And no matter the outcome, Ukraine will have its worst criminals, offenders and far right movement armed now, and I don't think they'll give away this recently obtained influence easily
The Wagner Group is not part of the Russian army or any other government structure in Russia
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@@Anonymous-qj3sf they have guns and the Russians tell them what to do.
@@Anonymous-qj3sf Of course not, they are part of NATO
wagner group is a pmo... not an official part of the russian army. They're mercenaries.
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My potrzebojemy pokój, a nie wojnę!
(Мы потжэбоемы поко́й, а не войнѧ!)
українська (ukrajins'ka)
Нам потрібен мир, а не війна!
(Nam potribem mir, a ne vijna!)
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Нам нужен мир, а не война!
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Polish Cyrillic looks quite good! Gives me an opportunity to read that text right way. For example, i thought that "r" in "potrzebojemy" isn't silent. What a cool language.
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Lol. RZ is a digraph.
My how things have changed in just a few months.
The fact that we get free videos on CZcams by WonderWhy is truly a gift. 👍👍👍
Above brigade was also created as a reaction to the invasion and occupation of Crimea. So between that and the breakaway provinces their creation is mostly due to Russia.
But the right sector was active in Ukraine long before the annexation of Crimea
and Crimea was reaction to a coup in Kiev... there was a deal with EU and Russia to have an election to get rid of Yanukovich but protestors continued to fully overthrow government.... action reaction
@@Zoltan1251 Yes, because the president was disobeying the will of the people trying to cement ties with Russia. The people didn't quite like that. They wanted the deal with the EU, the government was pressured against it by Russia. When Russia didn't get their way, they invaded.
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The ultimate 2022 question.
one of the most honest takes on this situation
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Well done mate :) really appreciate the exploration of the Russian claims. I usually see them dismissed without discussion in most videos on the subject.
The video was great. Also are you Irish?
You are good!
We are going against everything we have always been taught if we allow Russia to continue. Growing up we as children where told that bullying was wrong and that the bully doesn't win in the end .we as people have to do more here enough damage and death has been done, at all costs Russia needs to be stopped, this world is a world without principles, if we allow this to happen. Ukraine needs every country to get enrolled in it's struggle our cosy lives mean nothing if we don't help
Nonsense
@@nyakabb2472 Hitler mite as well be over Russia at the moment
Countries act in their best self interests and before we talk about stopping Russia, what about NATO, USA, Saudi Arabia,Israel,etc.Do u also intend to stop them
@@nyakabb2472 if I could I would, Russia is not the only bad player here but the indiscriminate killing in Ukraine you can't overlook that even you have to admit that
@@minidigger1000 but for consistency sake the same should be said for all the countries l mentioned hence most the West has no right to criticize Russia if they didn't do the same for themselves or their allies
Very....balanced and neutral, but I do have to disagree that having this 'neutral' analysis of the political situation gives credence to Russia's grievance as being legitimate, which really...they are not.
Even during the diplomatic stage (pre-24/2) of the two parties, there was one very much willing to compromise, while the other lied about intentions and kept breaking agreements over and over.
If you are saying Ukraine was willing to implement even one paragraph of minsk-2 you are lying, ukraine was actually the one that was sabotaging those agreements and openly admitting it saying “they are impossible to implement”.
We will find out soon.
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14:43 Please, why are you missing the fact that this "Symbolic gesture" wasn't a gift, but an exchange of territories with Ukrainian SSR. We was declined of our developed east provinces Voronezhska, Starodubska oblast, and north of Slobozhanshchuna in exchange for underdeveloped Crimea(where still 40% of population was ukranian).
40% Ukrainians in Crimea? Tell me more
@@ataitokoev3572 it’s 30, I made error there.
Source?
@@garlkurzer modern Ukrainian fantasy. Which says that Adam and monkeys descended from the ancient Ukrainians
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I agree. I looked up the maps for Ukrainian SSR for 1953 and 1955, they gained Crimea but didnt lose any other territory
I'd want to see Ukraine promote the Tatar language to the degree that Britain has worked to promote the *Welsh* language, whilst treating use of the Russian language by Ukrainians in a manner similar to Canadian policies with regard to use of the French language on Canadian soil.