Hi Gav, great video thanks, I have been using the 5 and 6 b without a problem so I thought I would get a 6. The first lock I tried it in was a new original Yale cylinder that uses the new key pattern Y42A I believe. Pin chamber 2 was blocked as shown, is it specific to that key style, ?
The new yales have this shelf blocking yes, not all but a lot do. Not much can be done unless you can remove the tool with keeping tension and pick that pin by hand.
Hi gav, amazing content as always. I’m in the uk and looking at buying a Lishi or 2, which would you recommend for padlocks? These are mostly what my practice locks are.
Well the it would depend what padlocks you are picking of course but I personally like the AM5 for federal padlocks as they can be tricky and it makes life easier but still fun. I also use the M1 master lishi for making keys to padlocks I don’t have keys for.
wow Guv what a pleasant surprise, I was gone for a little over 5 months and as soon as I get back I see u showing off ur new toys here. Lishi Yale, I thought this would never happen. So I guess those wicked 1star euro Yales are not a nightmare anymore?
@@GxAxV Nice 1, those 1star Yales had been my sworn enemies since I bought those bloody things. I was wondering if u could use a six-pin Lishi b on a 5 pin rim cylinder?
@@Alx-SG some yes, others no. In some locks the tip of the pick hits the tail piece before the shoulder is fully inserted. If you do find a lock where the 6 pin tool fits all the way in then it will pick just fine and the lines match up perfectly still.
Unfortunately there is no quick route in locksmithing and not really any cheap way either. If you where to start I would suggest forgetting about lock picking as that’s a very small part of locksmithing and not that part that’s going to make you money. Get tooled up for lock fitting and door mechanism repair.
@@kieronrollins Some Lishi Picks will do multiple vehicles. Lots of Ford and their subsidiary brands use the same lock types. The same with GM. You’ll just have to look through the model lists for each Lishi. The picks also change with the year models as well.
I still don't quite understand why the ledge on pin two is a issue. I believe what you said, but aren't ALL the holes drilled to the same depth? What am I missing?
No, so that particular chamber is not drilled through like the rest and this prevents that really short pin from falling too far into the keyway which would cause problems with keys. You may find this ledge in about 2/10 Yale locks.
@@GxAxV Why wouldn't YALE or that particular lock manufacturer randomly drill any hole shallower like that on chamber two, especially if it was intended to defeat these type of picking toold?
@@GxAxV Interesting. So, if the lock manufacturer wanted to use a shorter pin elsewhere, one would expect a multitude of uniquely drilled cylinders, which pretty much makes these locks undesirable for re-keying. I think if you said that these are custom drilled cylinders to accommodate only shallow pins that could be found anywhere on a random lock, it would have been more clear to me. But the manufacturer did inadvertently helped defeat the newest pick as you stated. I would think that lock containing shallow pins could be seen by scoping the keyway inadvance. Thanks for your earlier responses.
@@laurenarndt464 the pick will instantly tell you if the lock has one of these chambers. I have only ever seen one chamber in each lock like this and they are in some pretty old Yale locks too so it’s been a thing for many many years 🤷🏻♂️ it’s odd for sure.
So there is no such thing as a 6 pin SC1 I don’t think but I understand what you are asking. SC4 is the same as 5 pin SC1. SC4 lishi can be used to open both SC1 5 pin and 6 pin but I recommend buying the small plastic spacer to step the tool out.
@@GxAxV I get what you’re saying but you got some info wrong😭 I have the SC1 Lishi tool that opens 5 pin SC1 locks that are very common here in the USA. Half the home owners have it on their front door. There was a SC1 6 pin lishi that I could have bought but I figured because 5 pin is so common and because when you pull the lishi out to make up for the missing space it would put tension on the tool and possibly break it because the tension is supposed to be taken care of in the front of the lock where the 0 cut is left on the key for 1-2 cuts. Thank you for your input though! As long as it doesn’t do what I described , I will get a 6 pin SC1 lishi.
@@davidulvestad2944 ah I get you mate sorry about that. I must admit we don’t deal with schlage here really so I have been mistaken it seems on the SC1 and 4. I see that deviant O sells the little red spacer for the 6 pin to make it a 5 and he will usually tell you if something is shit. Hopefully you figure it out ✌🏻
A wealth of very useful practical information in this video. Cheers for that
Most enjoyable, and always interesting,
Thanks as always, Bill.
Nice one Gav….I’ll get myself some of these soon and now I’ve learned the correct technique
Once again super information!!!
Thanks for sharing this!!
🐈⬛🐾🐈🐾
Thanks Gav for yet another great video on the use of these tools, I am still learning and your videos you are producing are brilliant, cheers Gav.
Thanks mate I’m glad they are helping!
Delicious video as always buddy. I got my set from Mark last week and had a little play 😁
Hope you’re well mate
Interesting stuff, even though I'll never buy one. Thanks for sharing Gav and have a great week.
Hey Gav! What is the black older one you use in the video? If I wanted to buy one, what would I look / search for?
Great explanation thanks
Hi Gav, great video thanks, I have been using the 5 and 6 b without a problem so I thought I would get a 6. The first lock I tried it in was a new original Yale cylinder that uses the new key pattern Y42A I believe. Pin chamber 2 was blocked as shown, is it specific to that key style, ?
The new yales have this shelf blocking yes, not all but a lot do. Not much can be done unless you can remove the tool with keeping tension and pick that pin by hand.
Awesome video thanks for sharing
Great info thanks for sharing
Which Lishi is best for Abus 65/50 padkey? Does Sc1 fit in Abus?
Is there a lishi tool I can use for a Cisa security profile lock?
Start picking from the back to front pin chambers wear from back to front on average, worn chambers are more likely to bind last
Very interesting indeed, lots of info for a n00bie like myself - I'm probably a couple of years away from getting such a flashy tool!
Cheers 🍻
So other than Yales, what major brands are used in Europe? Does Lishi have picks that corresponds to most European brands?
Hi gav, amazing content as always. I’m in the uk and looking at buying a Lishi or 2, which would you recommend for padlocks? These are mostly what my practice locks are.
Well the it would depend what padlocks you are picking of course but I personally like the AM5 for federal padlocks as they can be tricky and it makes life easier but still fun. I also use the M1 master lishi for making keys to padlocks I don’t have keys for.
Great explaining thnx
What’s the black one? Part no.
21:02 - Good video is never too long!
I got my 6B today. I find the jiggler arm way too flimsy regardless of the angled card reader.
Where’s the site to order them old ones gav?
wow Guv what a pleasant surprise, I was gone for a little over 5 months and as soon as I get back I see u showing off ur new toys here. Lishi Yale, I thought this would never happen. So I guess those wicked 1star euro Yales are not a nightmare anymore?
It’s definitely picking some 3* and 1* very well.
@@GxAxV Nice 1, those 1star Yales had been my sworn enemies since I bought those bloody things. I was wondering if u could use a six-pin Lishi b on a 5 pin rim cylinder?
@@Alx-SG some yes, others no. In some locks the tip of the pick hits the tail piece before the shoulder is fully inserted. If you do find a lock where the 6 pin tool fits all the way in then it will pick just fine and the lines match up perfectly still.
Hi mate. Do you have a link to buy these please. I do warrants and think they will be great. Cheers, Dean
@@dean7631 hi sorry I thought it was in the description, it is now 👍🏻
Hi why did they not make the tension reversible with the markings each side so you could take off the tension and reverse it .
Because the markings would still be on the back side even if you reversed the tension arm.
can you tell me what lishi pick would be able to pick a 72mm smith and locke laminated padlock? i've lost my keys.
There isn’t one
If you can't pick up the thumb turn to unlock the lock, you can decode it and make a key.
Can’t use these lishi to decode unfortunately. They have the chart but simply doesn’t work 😢
I want to get in to this as kinda like a side job as noone in my area does this what's the best way to start?
Unfortunately there is no quick route in locksmithing and not really any cheap way either. If you where to start I would suggest forgetting about lock picking as that’s a very small part of locksmithing and not that part that’s going to make you money. Get tooled up for lock fitting and door mechanism repair.
Hi, which lishi do you recommend for Italian locks?
A Lishiano😜
Where did u buy the 5. 5B. 6 and6B lishi from
Ali Express
Will any Lishi picks do cars and household locks plz? Or do you need different ones?
You need different picks for each lock
@GxAxV Do you need different car picks or does one do a few different makes? Could be very expensive if you need one for each model
@@kieronrollins yes a different pick for each lock. It does get expensive.
@@kieronrollins Some Lishi Picks will do multiple vehicles. Lots of Ford and their subsidiary brands use the same lock types. The same with GM. You’ll just have to look through the model lists for each Lishi. The picks also change with the year models as well.
Does the Ruko lock fit the profile for Yale?
No unfortunately not
@@GxAxV damn... thanks for the feedback though
I have Asec lock which is the best one for that
Depends what keyway, AL1 or AL2 there is no lishi. But asec also have other keyways like Corbin and Yale.
Where can I buy this as a 5,5b,6,6b set in the uk? Btw awesome video! :)
Thanks 😊. ALS lock tools have them as the full set on the shop site 👍🏻
@@GxAxV Thanks! You are awesome! :)
Which would be best for locks used by clampers?
What does that mean?
@@GxAxV sorry mate the locks that are used on wheel clamps
@@barrykelly20524" grinder is the universal key 😜 be sure to leave the clamp pieces or it's theft
So if i buy just a normal lishi sc1 i can use it on european doors its just upside town and useable i hope
Nope not at all I’m afraid. Totally different pick and won’t fit almost anything European.
@@GxAxV oh okey thankyou for replying!
What about Adams rite commercial cylinders?
I still don't quite understand why the ledge on pin two is a issue. I believe what you said, but aren't ALL the holes drilled to the same depth? What am I missing?
No, so that particular chamber is not drilled through like the rest and this prevents that really short pin from falling too far into the keyway which would cause problems with keys. You may find this ledge in about 2/10 Yale locks.
@@GxAxV Why wouldn't YALE or that particular lock manufacturer randomly drill any hole shallower like that on chamber two, especially if it was intended to defeat these type of picking toold?
@@laurenarndt464 as stated in the video it’s not about security at all and is to stop the shorter pin going too deep.
@@GxAxV Interesting. So, if the lock manufacturer wanted to use a shorter pin elsewhere, one would expect a multitude of uniquely drilled cylinders, which pretty much makes these locks undesirable for re-keying. I think if you said that these are custom drilled cylinders to accommodate only shallow pins that could be found anywhere on a random lock, it would have been more clear to me. But the manufacturer did inadvertently helped defeat the newest pick as you stated. I would think that lock containing shallow pins could be seen by scoping the keyway inadvance. Thanks for your earlier responses.
@@laurenarndt464 the pick will instantly tell you if the lock has one of these chambers. I have only ever seen one chamber in each lock like this and they are in some pretty old Yale locks too so it’s been a thing for many many years 🤷🏻♂️ it’s odd for sure.
Very informative thanks. But is that a death star on your arm it's bugging me 😄
Indeed 😄
@@GxAxV nice👍😎
Can a 6 pin SC1 work in a 5 pin SC1? Please answer
So there is no such thing as a 6 pin SC1 I don’t think but I understand what you are asking. SC4 is the same as 5 pin SC1. SC4 lishi can be used to open both SC1 5 pin and 6 pin but I recommend buying the small plastic spacer to step the tool out.
@@GxAxV I get what you’re saying but you got some info wrong😭 I have the SC1 Lishi tool that opens 5 pin SC1 locks that are very common here in the USA. Half the home owners have it on their front door. There was a SC1 6 pin lishi that I could have bought but I figured because 5 pin is so common and because when you pull the lishi out to make up for the missing space it would put tension on the tool and possibly break it because the tension is supposed to be taken care of in the front of the lock where the 0 cut is left on the key for 1-2 cuts. Thank you for your input though! As long as it doesn’t do what I described , I will get a 6 pin SC1 lishi.
@@davidulvestad2944 ah I get you mate sorry about that. I must admit we don’t deal with schlage here really so I have been mistaken it seems on the SC1 and 4. I see that deviant O sells the little red spacer for the 6 pin to make it a 5 and he will usually tell you if something is shit. Hopefully you figure it out ✌🏻
@@GxAxV Thanks I’ll research later!
Don’t have a clue what you meen ?
Don’t have a clue what you mean ?