1G CAS IN A 2G DSM | DIY MAKING PLUG AND PLAY HARNESS
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- In this video, I'm going to show you how to make a harness from scratch so you are able to install the 1G Cam Angle Sensor onto a 2G DSM wire harness. To start off... you will need the following pigtails:
1. 2G TPS Pigtail connector or 1G CAS connector
2. 2GA CAS Pigtail connector (only for 95-96)
3. 2G Crank Position Sensor pigtail connector
Tools/Supplies Needed:
16-12 Gauge Wire
Crimps or a Soldering iron with solder wire
Crimper
Wire Strippers
Electrical Tape or Heatshrink
File (straight faced if possible)
BE AWARE The 1G Cam Angle Sensor might throw random misfires when paired with a stock 2g ecu, the best way to get rid of that is to run ECMLink.... the car will still run, but you will have those issues especially if cruising at a steady speed for a good while (at least this was my case). If you are installing this on a 95-96, the firing order will now have to be inverted, the 97-99 DSMs firing order will remain the same. Don't forget to set your ignition timing to 5 Degrees before TDC, usually when installing the 1G CAS, you want to start with the cam angle sensor somewhat centered.
Thanks to Magnus and Road Race Engineering for making these instructions available to the public.
You can also purchase these type of plug and play harnesses from various different DSM platform vendors ranging from 49.99 -100.00 depending on who is selling them.
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You can use a 1gb Black top CAS on a stock ECU and you will not get Random Misfires. Also if you use a Green Top CAS you can use a potentiometer and turn it to cut it back by add resistance in the signal.
I actually started out with a Hall Effect -black top CAS many years ago and still kept getting random misfires triggered by the stock ECU. Once I went with ecmlink, they went away. Honestly, I was and still am a little bit confused on running a resistor on the line to help with that, but it's probably really simple to those that have done it in the past. Lol I'll be running the Kiggly crank trigger kit with a 2Gb CAS hopefully next race season to see how that goes. Thanks for the input. 👍
works like a charm
Thanks it was helpful I am in the middle of putting in a 6 bolt
Awesome video thank you this is exactly what I needed!
One question though, I just deglazed my cylinder walls (60° cross hatch) and put new piston rings so to break in the motor, as soon as I start it I need to put some load on it and race it (not redline but some “spirited” driving to break it in lol) From what I’ve read I need to do some tuning with ECM link to get rid of the check engine lights and everything but I’ve also read that starting it up and idling for too long is bad for breaking in the piston rings, and i’ve never done any tuning or data logging but I’m assuming it’s going to take a while to get it tuned. From what you said it seems like tuning is only an option and it’s not 100% necessary. But if it’s running like crap and getting misfires won’t that also affect the break-in period of my piston rings? I don’t know what to do i feel like I’m stuck now!!
This project has become a nightmare so any ideas would be greatly appreciated lol
Quiero correr lo mas stock posible
Si hago esto no tengo que montar el kiggly ???
🔥🔥
So you don’t need the cam gear with the trigger plate?
Everyone is doing older engines. How the heck do you do 95harness to 99 engine.
Hey Awesome car and my 6 bolt motor is coming soon and I had no idea I had to do stuff like this thought it was a direct swap. I have my 7 bolt still. is this mandatory for the 6 bolt to run right? if so which would work for my 1997 spyder? thanks
I am going to 6 bolt swap and im going to need to do this im also going to install a dsm link what do i need to do on the link so i dont get any miss fires
Has anybody did a 6-bolt block with a 2G head
Good video. I’m in the middle of doing this myself. Where I’m stuck is u had said one wire would be shorter for some. I believe I’m that some lol since the car only turns over and won’t fire. Can you help?
Thanks! The shorter wire is only going to apply to 2GB cars as the cam angle sensor sits on the same side of the motor (same as 1g cas) opposed to the 2Ga DSMs.
would the kiggy crank sensor fix this problem?
Great video man! Just some questions, since I am running a 2gb 6676 blackbox ecu on my 95 (already running a swapped plugs from 4-1-2-3 to 3-2-1-4) and it runs fine without the injector swap, will I still be retaining the swapped plug wires or just put it back to 4-1-2-3? And another question is that there is a rubber cover on the side how do I pop it should I be taking off the valve cover? Will removing that rubber cause oil leaks or no? And I am doing this for the sake of having a 2nd cam/cranks sensor mounted on the vehicle in case the other goes bad. If I were to return to original settings I would just hook up the default harness to the stock 2ga cam/crank, rewap the plug wires and just let the 1g cas hanging on the motor. Is this correct? Thanks man
You have the right idea by changing the firing order since you swapped in a 2Gb ECU on a 2Ga car. Back in the days I made the injector trigger wire change at the ecu, with no change. To remove the "full moon" rubber cover, you will need to remove the valve cover and one of the cam caps in order to remove it correctly. Remember after swapping out for a 2gb CAS or 1g CAS, the firing order goes back to 4,1,2,3 since you are running a 2gb ECU. Keep in mind that the ECU might trigger a random misfire with the 1g CAS, I would go with a 2Gb CAS between the two... if you have stock 2ga cams, you will need to tap them or replace them with 2GB cams. (Made a vid on 2ga->2gb cam swap) hope it this clarifies a few of your questions.
How can I run a 2g CAS in a 1g engine?
Nice video keep it up
Thanks man. Appreciate it 👊
I wanted to ask on the vacuum lines is there a diagram for a frankenstein build
Thats the thing I'm still having trouble I have it down right but the thing is it just cranks and one more question I dont have my intercooler connected would that be one of the reasons why it dosent start
If you still have the stock maf setup, then yes... your intercooler piping needs to be connected.
@@DSMTHuNDeR ok thanks
cannot run kigly kit with this set up correct u need a 2gb cas with the cam tapped? or am i wrong?
You are 100% correct. In order for you to run the Kiggly kit, you will also need the 2gb cas with a tapped camshaft. Running a 1g CAS eliminates the need to run a tapped cam, but you will have to set your base ignition timing.... with the Kiggly kit, you won't need to set your ignition timing.
@@DSMTHuNDeR thanks brother just making sure
@@DSMTHuNDeR how do I install kigly kit on a 1g engine & writing?
Where do i connect the cas of a 2gb?
Hi I'm new to the dsm world but why would you go to a 1g cam angle sensor and also would you be able to do this with a stock ecu without any issue?
Ideally people run the 1g Cam Angle Sensor in order to be able to six bolt swap a 4g63 into a 2nd gen DSM.... it does comes with it perks though. You can drive the car around on a stock ecu, but you might want to consider installing something like ecmlink in order to eliminate/ignore the random misfires that the 1g CAS produces with a stock 2g ECU. Now a days....If you don't mind spending the extra cash, you can install a 2Gb CAS paired with the Kiggly Racing Crank Trigger kit and be able to run that on a stock ECU (for a 6 bolt swap ofcourse). Hope that kind of clarified it a little bit. 👍
I’m late. But is that harness sold already?
I still have it. Send me a DM on IG.