Psycho-Pass: Suffering For All
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- Psycho-Pass is one of those anime everyone remembers. Despite the original Psycho Pass coming out a decade ago, Akane Tsunemori's journey from green newbie on the force to head detective might hit home more now than ever before.
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Psycho-Pass isn't just the story of a dystopian futuristic Japan, it's an anime that hits home at some of the biggest issues with overbearing government, free will, freedom, and mental health. When a society is ruled by a singular system that's inner workings and decisions are completely unquestioned, it leaves room for corruption and unfairness, especially if the system isn't unbiased, which no system ever is. Today we're going down the rabbit hole to talk not just about Psycho-Pass, but the real world implications of a world like that, how it felt to watch it, and the emotionally journey it took me on.
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Welcome to Bonsai Pop 2022, it's our 3rd year as a channel and we're trying to combine what we've accomplished in our debut year and our Junior year by making longer and more in-depth content, but AS often as we were releasing it when we started. That takes editors and editors must be paid my friends. we want to stay as independent from sponsorship as possible for you, which means we need your help on patreon to fund these videos coming out more often. We're $1,500 away from our goal still, so as of right now we can do about 3 videos a month if we're lucky. As you can see Dani from Lines in Motion was hired to help with this video and did an amazing job! meanwhile i've been setting up to stream more professionally on Twitch in order to help make the extra money for editors. it also helps me spend more time with you guys! so if patreon isn't your deal yet, check us out on Twitch: /Bonsai_pop
Thanks for watching, I hope you enjoyed, and we'll be back really soon. Next video is going to be wacky so stay excited!
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loving all the ys music u guys use
I know you don't hear this enough but that was a pretty good video.
@Heartattack 77 Unless they're antivaxers. Those people are scum...
Hey mike, why don't you attack your viewers again while simultaneously asking for donations?
@@crispbrisket6769 I don’t attack my viewers, just idiots 💁♂️
What makes this amazing is that this show got banned in china. So that makes it more of a masterpiece imo
While watching the video I realized that the Sybil system strangely resembled the Chinese Social Credit system.
It's a stupid thing tho cuz sybil system was efficient nd helped that city to become better that's why the main girl didn't shut it down nd kept silence
@@mrmap4875 you should write a letter to the CCP and explain the nuance
@@essb5019 😅I'm not Chinese nd they can watch it by vpn i guess
@@mrmap4875 Why are you allergic to the letter "A"! lol
I dunno, Makishima's wanting a Psycho-Pass makes perfect sense to me, even humanizes him some. Monstrous as the Sibyl System is, it's lonely and awful being in a position where you feel no one can relate to you really. He gets hard proof on a constant basis that there is no one like him and no one understands him. That's exhausting.
I've just realized that Makishima is the manifestation of the ego of every misunderstood teenager. Truly a horror of an existence!
Well, he has a zero psycho-pass because he is a sociopath. It's honestly, a huge hole in the plot, because obviously there are sociopaths and psychopaths, and this system can't account for them. We are to assume he is the FIRST and ONLY sociopath? The system doesn't even understand a person like this can exist, and he's documented as a zero.
In reality, sociopaths and psychopaths, are easily discerned. We don't need magic super guns to pinpoint them.
Also, this is addressed in an episode very weirdly, where the sociopath triggers a psycho-pass of like 400.
According to how all this works, she wouldn't have triggered anything. She's a sociopath and has zero emotion. She wouldn't trigger anything, let alone tilt the charts.
@@czerro1 have you seen the show even? Sorry but you statements make it seem like you have not as the system can’t recognize his brain as you learn he is the system… it is made up of Brian of the zero psycho pass the people who don’t show results. I know it might have been awhile but it’s not a plot whole and all as they answer why
@@czerro1 no makishima is a psychopath and that’s why his psycho pass is at 0. the Sybil system even said in an episode that each member was just like him while they were individuals. So the Sybil system is made up of psychopaths. He also wasn’t the only one in the show, Touma was also one. Rikako who had a Psycho pass of 400 was a sociopath, same with senguji. The reason for that is the brain structure. In a p-p Audio Drama choe gu-sung and makishima talked about how a person’s psycho pass is measured. They figured it’s measured through the limbic system, basically the amygdala and the frontal lobe (psychopaths have these underdeveloped) sociopath's on the other hand have normal brains but are a product of their environment so it only makes sense their crime coefficient is so high.
@czerro1 This is a spoiler for the end of season one. The system operates on brains like his sitting in vats judging people. The reason it can't judge Shogo Makashima is because then the system would be forced to judge itself. So, in that sense, the system is fully aware of people like Shogo because the system is comprised of people like him. So honestly, I don't really see it as a plot hole. The government is run by a system that has its own interests and is out to protect them.
This series almost feels like the anime adaptation of "1984." The phrase "Onii-Chan is Watching" comes to mind.
1984 with a sprinkle of Minority Report
"Oni-chan is watching"
That nearly fucking killed me 🤣
"Onii-Chan is watching"
*You have been stopped* 🤣
Damn good one
Funny, because the mashima is also seen reading the 1984 book
I miss the days when dystopian art wasn't reality.
Amen.
I doubt you lived that long....
Unfortunately dystopian aspects have always been our reality. They're just more visible now
I miss the days when every single edgy teenager didn't have access to the internet.
I think a quote from Frank Herbert's Dune plays well with this anime: "Dangers lurk in all systems. Systems incorporate the unexamined beliefs of their creators. Adopt a system, accept its beliefs, and you help strengthen the resistance to change."
16:14 Funny thing about feelings, they actually play an important role in decision making. Long story short: studies have shown that the lack of emotions make it difficult to evaluate how important something is. (I.E. you won't be able to tell the difference between doing something right or wrong because you don't feel guilt or worry.) I guess that's what Shogo Makishima represents with his 0% Psycho Pass. 😜
I love how Mike will just say what he’s thinking regardless of algorithm or politics like calling out the murder of Amir Locke “I mean let’s talk about the dominators.”
Amir Locke, documented evidence that they only "care about black victims" when it fits their agenda.
I don't agree with him at all but he deserves props for standing for what he believes. I will keep watching because his perspective is different and his content is fire.
@@Mrred11789 you dont agree about the murder of an innocent man in his sleep? Russiabot vibes
I think he's a dirtbag.
@@Mrred11789 Same sentiment (Haven't gotten to the Amir Locke part yet), but there are parts in previous videos where I do disagree, but it's always great to not trap yourself in an echo chamber of people endlessly bawking similar things over and over again to go with your worldview. So I appreciate this. Plus the rest of their videos are bangers enough that I'd watch anyhow.
I watched this show when it came out as an English major in college, and Makishima was the fucking GOAT to me and my friends. When the dude was talking about some classic book with one of his goons, then started going off about how "the *real* thing is so much better than some *digital copy*, you should try it sometime", we just started dying.
Dude's just a hardcore Lit major at heart, and I love him so much for that lol
Psycho pass is very depressing anime but also very intriguing, I still have like 5 episodes yet to watch to finish 1st season but I'm really enjoying it, even though it makes me feel uncomfortable sometimes.
Thanks for the video, it's great!
I dropped it near the end, it was so boring trying to finish that anime absolutely hated it
@@GrowingDownUnder not everybody understands, plus u should know they are living in 2113
@@misslili9509 I understand the anime, it was just boring and a bad anime. Maybe season 2 or 3 are better, I will never know because I couldn't make it past season 1. I only like the fight scene from season 1
@@GrowingDownUnder i also noticed that season 1 is the best starting from the characters, and i guess season 3 was boring cuz it's incomplet in purpose as a sign of a season 4
@@GrowingDownUnder it was so boring and you hated it so much you watched 18-21 episodes? 😆
I grew up in an abusive family. I got no breaks, but I was smart, so I did well in school and hobbies. The trauma caught up to me in my teen years, and I was put through a lot of unnecessary psych treatments. Psych drugs are great if they work but... They took years off my life.
I am angry and resentful. These qualities helped me get back up, defend my rights, put myself through Uni. It should not be like that. I miss the curious, gentle child I used to be. But I had to stand up to myself to finally get the right diagnoses and help: autism, ADHD, and complex PTSD.
Learning to love myself has been a very bumpy road but I have such good friends to help me on this road. I love them so much and with their help I'll be OK. I want to give back as much as I can, too.
I really hope you doing well now.
@@annec4626 I am well, thank you 💐
I hope all goes well in your life friend❤️
@@steven5548 thank you, my life is really good. I have psychotherapy, ADHD meds and autism assistance. I'm also in the interview stages of medical transitioning, which has led to a lot of improvement in my life. I eat a very healthy diet, exercise 6 times a week, and take pride in what my body can do even before transitioning medically. Trauma still sometimes makes me need to rest until the worst is over, but it no longer messes with my life. I may not be a part of the working force, but I am a member of society with meaningful relationships. I hope you are well too!
I'm saving Psycho-Pass, because I know it's one of the last anime I have at my disposal that is guaranteed to fit my tastes to some extent, whether I like it, love it, or simply appreciate it. Shows like this are getting fewer and farther between.
It's one of my favorites, make sure you also check out the second season and the movie.
@@vratyasvakyas6022
S2 is so bad that it feels like a parody of S1. It should be avoided.
@@_M_4 it's not as good as S1 but it's still worth a watch.
@@vratyasvakyas6022
It's a shallow imitation of S1. I'll link you a video, watch it if you have the time
(It's by Ygg Studio, yt often deletes links)
@@vratyasvakyas6022
czcams.com/video/D8xUebGsM84/video.html
So glad to see more videos being made about this anime.
LET'S GO!
Makishima Shogo is one of the greatest anime antagonist
The amount of depth this show has is honestly so good. I’ve always been interested in psychology and the mind and the morally gray areas of many stories. I’ve always held this show close to my heart as I truly love Kogami and how he thinks there is far better out there than what Sybil decides.
Waking up to a Bonsai Pop video on Psycho Pass literally made my day thank u sm!!!
Also that analogy of cops and criminals has been made before. There’s even a saying.
“The only thing that separates a cop from a criminal is a badge”
"Hopefully I can hurt you and you'll still love me too." best quote.
One of THE best sci-fi pieces of media in any medium, whether it be literature, television, movies, etc. The first season in particular is nothing short of a masterpiece. Hell, the story even concludes differently than we'd expect from knowledge of tropes. While I can't agree politically with Akane's conclusion (or this early comment about the world of Psycho-Pass being in any way representative of any actual Leftist Ideology but we all good ily (respectfully)), narratively it's just brilliant. Bittersweet in the best kind of way. There are so few pieces of cyberpunk-ish anime that come to mind as on par with this series (esp S1), maybe Lain, Technolyze, I guess Akira, maybe a small handful of others that can even compare. Anyways, I'm tryna get another job to increase my income a bit, so hopefully you'll have at least a few bucks a month from me soon! I don't think I could be a detective, though. 1312 and all that. Keep it real all
Psycho-Pass is special in so many ways that I'm glad you made this video. Been a huge fan of your work in the last 2 years and some of your newer videos are from animes that defined my taste in the last decade, so I didn´t hold myself this time and I'm going to thank you for all the work you been doing in this pandemic.
About this masterpiece -specially the first season -, it's crazy how it handles really core questions about the connection between sociological and psychological conditionings - deviance, health/illness, social cohesion, bureaucracy, algorithms, digital identities, social order, rankings, etc - in some kind of dystopic sci-fi crime thriller supporting different perspectives and debates about their world. Besides that, each character have a defined philosophy and reinforce it with actual references to western philosophical and scientific works the charachters 'like' - the very first scene in the anime are some quotes of Pascal and Ortega y Gasset; later in the season they even mentioned Bentham and Max Weber or in the movies with DuBois and it's the first time i ever heard those names in anime -, showing that divulgation of really interesting ideas could be fun and entertaining in any kind of media if the story is well written.
It shows a huge respect for it's audience with a captivating nail bitting story, memorable characters - the philosophy of law's debate between Makishima, Kougami and Akane in the last episodes of first season made them my favorites - and top notch animation at the release moment.
The only piece of work i could think inside and outside anime that has this level of 'intelectual' respect for their audience without the fear of feeling too complicated it's the first season of Westworld and I really hope creatives and studios can expand this niche to a more broader audience because it's fun AF and more people deserve this kind of incentives to be curious about this kind of stuff.
Underrated comment right here.
College has inevitably taken a toll on me, and I’ve been struggling ever since to find the time to rest and breathe. Thanks for giving me the opportunity Bonsai Pop. Been looking forward for your uploads, and it just so happens to be at the perfect damn time. Cheers, Mike.
It isn't only political, but religious, too. Considering Christians look at book of Revelation and see things like "whoever did not worship the beast or it's image were put to death", they consider that to be the case with the NWO where only one way is tolerated and the rest are killed off. Psycho Pass kind of reminds me of that because you have to live according to "their" way or be killed, basically. Just throwing that idea out there, it's not always a political messaging, but can be religious, too (though the creators of the anime probably had politics in mind, to be fair lol).
“Watching a fictional world you’d never survive in”, that was one of my first thoughts on this show as well, at best an enforcer, more likely dead. This world would kill me in a heart beat.
Psycho pass is a favourite and you've done a great service talking about the personal aspect of it, thank you
That Sticker brush Symphony remix toward the end had me in my feelings. I love your videos, man.
This show literally made me sick to my stomach. There is some truly messed up things that happened in it. Great video and thank you.
You put this video out right around the time I decided to rewatch the series. Good job, as always! Keem 'em coming.
As always, really appreciate your particular takes and interesting vision on shows!
I mainly started watching Psychopass because of its Cyberpunk aesthetic and ideas, but enjoyed it for so much more.
I have an absolute love for Psycho Pass and have recommended it nonstop to everyone who'll listen ever since I first saw it!
I think your take was fantastic, especially the multiple lenses and readings; about how there are different and changing thresholds.
Thank you for covering psycho pass
Watching psycho pass is like holding a mirror to our society and where it will be heading.
I love how the concept in Psycho Pass is done plus how Makishima exploits the system is so good too bad about S2 though
i found season two to be really good personally. felt like the laughing man from gits sac
@@ukiyo1878 I won't say I hated it but I disliked it personally just didn't hit me as hard as the first
Too bad S2 had a change in writer.
S2 ain't that bad, Urobuchi just made S1 so high that any writer who will replace him would have a hard time.
Just popping in to say Season 3 is actually amazing, same writer as season 2 but the guy fully redeemed himself and made something really special
@@pridefulmaster1390 Wow that kinda gives me some motivation to watch it now
Please dont stop making these. The uploads mean a lot to me, a combo of laughs and therapy. Love yall.
Please get actual therapy. Parasocial relationships are toxic.
One of my favorite breakdown channels, thank you
Keep up the good work. I am always excited to see your next project. There's not enough like it, but that's kind of what makes it special.
Thank you for this. I always appreciate your words and insite. It helps knowing not everyone sucks ya know.
I watched Psycho Pass when I finished my bachelor studies and moved back to my parents' home cause I couldn't get a job...needless to say my mental state wasn't great. and this show really stuck with me, Akane as a protagonist especially because she, although she was "perfect", she saw the flaws in the system and the good in humanity and went out of her way to do what she thought was right, witnessing the faults and being powerless to effectively change anything....idk I felt weirdly /seen/ by this show and I haven't had a similar experience since
I like how B grade anime from 10 years ago are now a LOT more socially relevant and hit diff than they did at the time
I watched it in 2015 and it felt really fucking relevant then. Shit writing has been on the wall since about the time I graduated highschool (2009) that we were fucked. Though it all started in the 1890's-1920's and was put into gear during Reagan's time in office. FDR and Teddy saved us then Reagan and the R's fucked us.
I dont think Psycho Pass was ever considered a B grade anime even for the time
@@RhythmLP Especially not the 1st season. It was a considered a must watch back then. Second season kind of ruined it though.
I just noticed the piano version of bloody tears playing in the bg lol. Great video.
The key to happiness is indifference. Don’t cause problems or harm to: yourself, myself or others. If you comply to those conditions simply live your life
I can relate due to having Autism Spectrum Disorder. I have had troubles at work due to being a little stressed and becoming more so when I don't get a little time to recover from a rush. I lost a job due to this affecting my attitude and getting someone upset.
I love Psycho Pass!
And I've missed Bonsipop a bunch!!!!
But so happy you guys are doing this the way you can feel best about it. THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOU DO FOR US FANS!!!!! SIGNING UP NOW!!!!! Only took a whole year... Sorry 😐
W video, your maturity mixed with humor it's hella unique
Watched 2 seasons and the movie. One of my favorite pieces of media.
quick question: if the psyco-pass works on emotion, could someone say, induce a state of disassociation, and kill freely? Since dissociative states, while they suck, can be very static, because (at least for me) you feel nothing
Like drug induced K holes? K hole killer Kira
Its been years since I watched Psycho Pass, so I may not remember everything. You ask an interesting question though so I'll give you my best answer.
I don't remember the show stating any hard rules about the sybil system interprets mental states. But we do see it regestering kill level crime coefficients on people who outwardly appear very calm czcams.com/video/2qLfZC7yXQw/video.html .
Sybil has millions of people to study, so I think there is a one in a billion chance that it wouldn't recognize any kind of dissociative state. I'm pretty sure sybil would flag a dissociative state as a higher crime coefficients because having less empathy toward people makes it easier to harm them.
But then there is Makishima. He is that one in a billion chance. Sybil just doesn't have any idea how his mind is wired, so he is easily able to dissociate and trick sybil, and thus get away with whatever he wants. He proves that sybil can be fooled, its just not very likely. The fact that sybil can in fact be fooled is pretty central to the plot.
It looks like the pass system reads brain activity not just emotional action so likely no.
Edit: I just realised this was covered in the video nvm
I remember one of the criminals had a very low Sybil rating and was one of the main villains ( Shogo Makishima). He basically brain washed people to tip them over the edge to kill for him. Due to that, his (conscience?) wasn’t affected due to his sick reasonings and was safe from the sybil system. Spoiler
Main character basically accidentally allows her best friend to die from him and he still had a low Sybil rating so that she couldn’t shoot him
I wonder if someone with multiple personality disorder could trick the system. Someone who has a killer personality in private and can switch to a model citizen personality when in public. The dominantors wouldn't work on them.
you sir, you COOKED with this analysis.
I only just now watched this anime and am mad at myself for not seeing it sooner bc its SO GOOD. bingewatching it during my summer break and consuming all the fandom content I can find. tysm for psychopass content !
One of my favorite animes covered by Bonsai, on my birthday of all days. Massive W.
Happy Birthday 🤙
@@SamTheGumMan117 thanks bro!
happy birthday man
I think Psycho-Pass has some pretty cool thought provoking themes behind it. The first season is written by Gen Urobochi that did Fate/Zero, and his mind is probably a work of art too based on his quotes. The character I like the most is Akane, and how she is portrayed in the anime. She small or petite but still tries to overcome that limitation with training and critical thinking to do her job.
Thank you I've always loved your videos, and this doesnt disappoint
Happy you're back guys. Keep it up!
Happy New Year?
Keep up the good work guys, I’m joining the patreon as soon as the winter slump lifts and I get more hours.
Yes this was so well done!
I really do love this channel with all my heart and soul ❤
Holy shit, I watched the first 5 minutes of this and then binged watched most of it. Thank you for turning me onto this, it's incredible. just finished the first season. So good.
Why does this channel not have millions of subs?? This is a dope channel. This def pops my Bonsai. 👹🤘👁
I was mis- dicnoced with a marntel illness instead of autism in highschool. I Lost my full ride to a millitary college and payed big pharma 340,0000 over ten years. All I got out of it was a much harder life and miner brain bamge. So I can relate to the massage of this video.
I’m so happy to see you cover Psycho-Pass, it’s one of my absolute favourite shows! Season 1 a masterpiece and the rest of the franchise, while still great, never quite reaches that quality again, but I’d say the rest of the show is absolutely worth taking a look at! Season 2 is definitely the week point and I understand why a lot of people bow out. However, The Movie, Sinners of the System, and especially Season 3/First Inspector are really great. Obviously, you cover what you want to cover, but you should consider doing the rest of the show if you ever feel up to it!
I’m been wanting to watch Psycho Pass for quite some time now I’m even more intrigued to check it out. Thanks for this video.
First day of my week long vacation start with new Bonsai Pop video
Mick Jagger said it brilliantly: "As every cop is a criminal and all the sinners saints..."
Also, I always appreciate the progressive messages on this channel. Keep it up, guys.
I really just have to say.... You did a great job with the background tracks for this essay.
This may get lost in the comment but I’ve been watching your content for over two years now and I really love everything about your channel. Keep it up! you should do Initial D next!!
The ovas and the later season is actually worth watching imo
Fire video dude, glad I found your channel.
I enjoyed this video It made me reflect on my own past and trauma and how I grow and don't have a desire to get stronger and as I got older and grew I got stronger And I would decide if I thank you for the reminder that Goal and got through that trauma
you know there seem to be some similarities between the sibyl system and the Japanese current social system. I would even say that the sibyl system is an ideal version of the Japanese social system. then both try to maintain a stress-free society by eliminating any abnormal elements.
Im loving these longer analyses videos
Welcome back king
Welcome back!
OK, the addition of FF music has made me a new solid fan. I came for the Vampire Hunter D, lingered for Castlevania, and hesitated to jump in the bus at the last second for this last video, then I heard FF music. Subbed.
Still loving the channel boys. Hope the algorithm starts picking yall up again
Welcome back! Content is great, as per
This shit is introspective gold
I love how a reference was made to my second favorite Philosophical channel on CZcams, Wisecrack.
thank you for you work
Welcome back
I love psycho pass! Glad you enjoyed it also
Thanks for the vid
I saw the vid pop up and I smiled keep up the hard work boys !
I got into this recent and I can't believe I missed out of it when it came out... I love it!!
It's too late for me to be surfing CZcams channels, but if I hadn't I wouldn't be writing this comment on this video I'm about to watch.
Because any time a video pops up on my home page that says both "Bonsai Pop" and "New", I know at least the next half hour is spoken for.
That, and I love Psycho-Pass.
Quite frankly I think your time is better spent rewatching Psycho Pass.
Yet again I’m here so I think I should take my own advice to heart.
I think a lot of context, like crime investigation, the conviction rate, the realities of incarceration, and lack of mental health recognition/resources _in Japan_ was missing from the interpretation of how Psycho Pass and the Sybil System relates to real world politics.
More people need to talk about Reborn.
Very underrated it is
psycho pass is such an good and underrated anime thank you
Bonsai Pop goes the Weasel.
Ok, algorithm pleasing unique comment DONE!
Another banger video, my dudes. Lines in Motion did a FANTASTIC job. Can tell he very much got the Bonsai Pop vibe.
Love this vid so much
ive been wating for this video for a while
Thanks!
I didn’t get a notification for this awesome new video. What the hell CZcams.
Love the funhaus clip with the ikea
#proudpatron I think you guys just made my new favorite bp video.
Excellent review!
Recently finished this show and goddam it's gonna last with me forever. I could imagine side stories in the world whenever I was watching. Absolutely a great serues
I really beautiful essay. I appreciate your perspective so much and as somebody who's been and many of the places you describe here and want to say a personal. Thank you! It's really really nice to feel what do I want to say? It's not seen exactly but to feel... I don't know what the right word is, but thank you for the feels and Hope and validation and for bringing the kind of perspectives you bring to your work
I could never connect or have a better understanding of phycho pass
Great stuff!
This is one of my favourite animes, I don't know if being a psych student had anything to do with it, but it grabbed me and held on until I finished it. Multiple times.
in 2020 i had a really awful job, awful bosses, forcing to go to the office during the heights of the pandemic because they thought i was not working from my home when i they were the ones not paying attention to my work, i felt like a looser with small payment fighting at workplace with them in a toxic enviromenmt, not being able to find something better, went down to a dark place to keep it on this video lets say i had a cludy psycho path, strated resorting to self harm, but it was coming out of that experience powering through and being able to stop myself from doing something worse and finding a better place for me that led to a huge personal growth and new found love for life and myself, sometimes we go through this just to come out stronger but other times it can break us, the important thing is to power through and not fall into a worse place, find the help you need find the love you need cut the toxicity and love yourself
"Mostly because I'm a criminal..." And I felt that. ✊
"ALL SIDES ARE EVIL" best quote ever!!!
All extremes yes