The Ayaneo 2S Is The Best Ad For The Steam Deck

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  • @rmg8590
    @rmg8590 Před 11 měsíci +2393

    if bringus sticker pack 0 is so good why isn't there a bringus sticker pack 0 2. checkmate liberals

    • @Felipe77646
      @Felipe77646 Před 11 měsíci +33

      xd!!!111!1! gottem

    • @whiteeyesencounters
      @whiteeyesencounters Před 11 měsíci +19

      @@Felipe77646 lollooololol true!!!111!!

    • @Schnort
      @Schnort Před 11 měsíci +76

      Damn. Guess I'll start being homophobic now.

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 Před 11 měsíci +57

      @@Schnort Don't just stop there. Add racism and misogynism to the mix too.

    • @veronicabermudez4802
      @veronicabermudez4802 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Gatorade69 And don't forget. Defending your stupid behaviour with Jesus

  • @ale6242
    @ale6242 Před 11 měsíci +3697

    Madd respect for putting out this despite almost certainly backlisting yourself from future review units. Unbiased reviews like this are critical. Thank you.

    • @polocatfan
      @polocatfan Před 8 měsíci +358

      if a company blacklists someone for a fair review then they aren't worth buying from.

    • @jhowgx
      @jhowgx Před 8 měsíci +171

      @@polocatfan that's all companys my dude

    • @FR4M3Sharma
      @FR4M3Sharma Před 8 měsíci +111

      FR, MVG deleted my Comment under his ayaneo handheld review after it got 200+ like and over two dozen replies then when I accused him on Twitter he said "yt might have deleted it because I either put a curse word or a link to a third party site". Which I clearly didn't because I was replying to the replies on my comment.

    • @AngelaTheSephira
      @AngelaTheSephira Před 7 měsíci +25

      @@FR4M3Sharma It's a shame MVG is the only guy who covers console modding and the scene like he does... I'd not watch him anymore then.

    • @travis8106
      @travis8106 Před 6 měsíci +1

      For sure, see too many content creators in this space dick riding Ayaneo
      It's all overpriced garbage

  • @readyforlol
    @readyforlol Před 11 měsíci +442

    Steam Deck "killers" that burn through your wallet are a dime a dozen, but ones that also burn through your hands ?
    Now that's new.

    • @satormus8263
      @satormus8263 Před 4 měsíci +17

      if no hands, then you can't play any of the competitors

    • @thebussypresident7085
      @thebussypresident7085 Před 2 měsíci +1

      If you see a bunch of X killers. Just get X

  • @Sheep_Alot
    @Sheep_Alot Před 11 měsíci +1167

    Ayaneo: "Do not mention this mail in the video"
    Me: "Aaaaaaaaaand thats another untrustworthy company to add to the list''

    • @ThePhilosogamer
      @ThePhilosogamer Před 11 měsíci +30

      They said not to mention it because it isn't a retail unit. Regular users are unlikely to have this problem.

    • @francistaylor1822
      @francistaylor1822 Před 10 měsíci +156

      @@ThePhilosogamer Thats what they said after the fact A Media unit should be the same as the release device when provided only slightly earlier - and either way it should be been advised its a media unit etc as you cant expect someone to review a device for the general public when its a different device.

    • @tylern6420
      @tylern6420 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@francistaylor1822this is something that shouldnt pass QA

    • @spookyweeb5563
      @spookyweeb5563 Před 5 měsíci +36

      @@ThePhilosogamerSure... And why should i trust that? Why couldnt that statement be public rather than private? do they need to hide that statement because when the shipped products will also have the same issue people will catch on? If the actual products had that problem fixed then they wouldnt need to hide it.

    • @dealloc
      @dealloc Před 5 měsíci +15

      @@ThePhilosogamer 1) What would be the point of a media-specific device if the whole point of reviews is for the retail? That to be sounds suspicious enough. 2) They should have informed him before the incident as he already explained in the video. It's not really a "whoops we forgot that we sent media devices rather than retail versions"-hindsight.
      The device they send is the device that gets reviews, regardless whether it's intended for media or retail. Can there be flaws in the devices they send? Yes! And that's why he contacted them about it but didn't get a satisfying response.
      Now. I am not saying that they have malicious intent here. It could very well be lack of internal communication for handling cases like this. That can be fixed. But it's also clear that they didn't spend more than a few minutes on the response, so we have to take it at face value. It's not like this is uncommon practice within technology companies.

  • @sashahenriksen
    @sashahenriksen Před 11 měsíci +825

    the fact that you ignored their please to not share the issues and reported on it honestly despite being given a free sample shows a lot of integrity. i like your channel and its always nice to see this!

  • @MarkGibbons
    @MarkGibbons Před 11 měsíci +690

    Thank you, seriously, thank you.
    Honestly is something that doesn't exist in this space. I bought the AN2 that had wonky thumbsticks, a hot screen, loud fans and eventually, a dead ssd. In their Discord, tonnes of people had the same issues, I left a comment on a CZcamsrs video (that I trusted) about my issues and he replied, letting me know that his second unit had suffered some of the same issues (The IPS bleed) but the third was fine. (the third being the one he made the highly positive review about)
    AYANEO telling media to "not talk about it, don't worry, we'll send better devices to paying customers" is nonsense and frankly scammy.
    In the end Aya ghosted me and I never received my replacement. 👎

    • @BringusStudios
      @BringusStudios  Před 11 měsíci +189

      Sorry to hear that. I wanted to like this device so bad but between AYANEO as a company and the blatant QC issues... I had to share my experience with it all. Nobody should deal with all that after spending $1500

    • @CarbonPanther
      @CarbonPanther Před 11 měsíci +16

      Not to sound threatening to the CZcamsr, but who exactly is it?
      I just want to know if i follow them or not so that i can evaluate for myself if i can even still trust them on these devices or not...

    • @g.h.decker6126
      @g.h.decker6126 Před 11 měsíci +20

      @@MarkGibbons Taki has connections all over the industry in China, I could definitely see him being less-than-truthful to defend his own people or his bottom line.

    • @doublinx2
      @doublinx2 Před 11 měsíci +12

      ​@@g.h.decker6126defend his own people? 🤨 He's lit up companies that he's worked with multiple times

    • @aquasp102
      @aquasp102 Před 11 měsíci +27

      @@g.h.decker6126 From what I've seen, Taki Udon usually points out when a device is heavily flawed, and make said flaws transparent in his reviews. For example, in his review of the ROG Ally, he points out that the software within the device was very buggy, but still recommends it because of mostly everything else on the system being solid, and he was confident that said software issues would get fixed in the future (though whether or not said fixes happened is something I'm not sure about since I don't own an ROG Ally).
      Another example is when he made a video saying that he refused to review the Retroid Pocket 3 because of the years of manufacturing issues that the device went through, and Retroid themselves basically refusing to fix most of these issues and chose to sell the device anyway.

  • @scottcol23
    @scottcol23 Před 11 měsíci +1425

    Thank you for your brutally honest review! For now ill be keeping my Steamdeck. What I fear the most with these devices... these companies pump out 2-3 new handhelds a year. I feel that they will abandon this handheld as soon as the 3s comes out leaving the users with the 2s stuck with no more updates and bug fixes. I have watched the steam deck grow into a very usable device and there is a huge community behind it.

    • @BringusStudios
      @BringusStudios  Před 11 měsíci +372

      I agree. I commend the effort that handheld companies have put into these devices to get them made at all, but it feels like the Wild West era of them is coming to an end and only the best are going to stick around

    • @First_Grafter
      @First_Grafter Před 11 měsíci +9

      This isn't a review though
      It's a sponsored video

    • @BorkHammer40k
      @BorkHammer40k Před 11 měsíci +19

      Kinda why I'm waiting on getting any of these portables. I want something that's got a better screen and performance than the steam deck, but Valve is the only company making these that can turn their device into a legitimate gaming platform, and not just a niche device getting replaced constantly. I'll likely be waiting until the Deck gets a hardware revision or successor.

    • @brandon_nope
      @brandon_nope Před 11 měsíci

      @@BorkHammer40k why not buy one and return if you don't like it?

    • @gluttonousmaximus9048
      @gluttonousmaximus9048 Před 11 měsíci +45

      @@brandon_nope NOBODY likes to buy something that will only be returned to seller. Either they like to peacefully own a device without issue, or they like to not touch that device at all. Good return policy does help users to trust a company, but it won't help with their expectation of the company's product itself.

  • @RisingRevengeance
    @RisingRevengeance Před 11 měsíci +392

    One of the worst things with the touch screen that hot is that you will likely get ghost inputs. Phones often get those while under heavy load.

    • @hi_its_jerry
      @hi_its_jerry Před 11 měsíci +40

      yeah that's really the last thing you'd want with a touch screen device. if the retail 2s is no different than this one, then it's probably doomed

    • @purpleneons
      @purpleneons Před 11 měsíci +33

      i used to have a Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime, that phone could get so stupidly hot, the screen above the CPU would just stop working altogether from all the heat and you'd have to wait for it to cool down a bit

    • @CarbonPanther
      @CarbonPanther Před 11 měsíci +42

      Oh good, The handheld can play the games all by itself _after_ it burned your fingers off!
      Honestly that's just brilliant! Why aren't more manufactures doing it?

    • @RadikAlice
      @RadikAlice Před 11 měsíci +4

      Oh, so that's what I've experienced sometimes...

    • @thegamerfe8751
      @thegamerfe8751 Před 10 měsíci +8

      To be fair most smartphones released in the past 3 years have essentially gotten rid of most thermal issues. The downside is that it's only the expensive high end ones.

  • @RadikAlice
    @RadikAlice Před 11 měsíci +489

    Cheers to you for being a real one and not bowing to a company going "Pwease don't wive us bad pwess"
    This is another nail in the already well-sealed coffin. What both people and corporations don't get
    is that the Deck succeeded because it's tailor-made for it's task, raw power means jack if the software
    is bad. And that's where they fail the most, nothing yet is a real "Deck competitor" until the whole package
    measures up. Also, the open source nature of the software making things work allows for faster improvement

    • @creauspssrb627
      @creauspssrb627 Před 11 měsíci +17

      Because its windows and windows is very clunky on handheld devices

    • @RadikAlice
      @RadikAlice Před 11 měsíci +37

      @@creauspssrb627 Never meant for it. But yeah, it only holds devices back
      But stuff like the Ally and this? It's like tying anchors to someone's ankles and expecting them to swim

    • @falloutbunker
      @falloutbunker Před 11 měsíci +9

      tailor made and Valve is totally selling them at a loss because they have Steam money. Other companies can't afford to do that and have to put out multiple models because they don't have their own digital storefronts.

    • @CarbonPanther
      @CarbonPanther Před 11 měsíci +36

      @@falloutbunker They're not selling them at a loss.
      Valve said the thin margins were hard to reach yes, but that still means each 64gb Deck sells with a profit attached even if that profit is 5 bucks to them.
      not to mention the 256gb and 512gb variants are basically overpriced at this point because a 256gb SSD costs us less than 15 bucks retail, and Valve is charging 100 bucks more for theirs (not even counting contracts they got which makes the SSD even cheaper for them because they are bought in bulk)
      Also Valve may be big, but these companies like Aya neo have been around for ages now too, they should have a proper strategy by now that doesn't have to resort to begging reviewers not to thrash their underdeveloped handheld, it's just a laptop with extra buttons how hard can it be?

    • @CIARUNSITE
      @CIARUNSITE Před 11 měsíci +3

      It would be nice to have more power and a better screen. But as of right now I'm happy with the competition and evolution but also have no motivation to replace my Deck, especially since I just built a PC. In a year or two when more money needs to be spent hopefully the real 2.0 Steam Deck is here and not the next model which will be a mid-generation upgrade without the screen or power being improved.

  • @HuskyMoment
    @HuskyMoment Před 11 měsíci +166

    50C is more than enough to damage most LCDs, laptop screens don’t really allow operating above that limit per specs because it can damage them. Some of the ROG laptops with ergolift blow hot air at the LCDs and it ends up damaging them. The system running that hot is almost guaranteed to damage or kill the LCD over time

    • @steffdia7080
      @steffdia7080 Před 11 měsíci +2

      How is asus rog ally screen?

    • @TheKnewGreg
      @TheKnewGreg Před 11 měsíci +19

      Oh shit, the screen on my ROG just went out and that was probably why... (Worst of all, windows doesn't even recognize that the laptop screen even exists anymore)

    • @zugzwang8761
      @zugzwang8761 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@TheKnewGregwhich model are you using bro? im getting kinda worried here 😂

    • @TheKnewGreg
      @TheKnewGreg Před 11 měsíci +7

      @@zugzwang8761 The Zephyrus G14. I think there might be multiple models of that type, but I'm using one I picked up mid-2022, so it is probably a 2021 model. Either way, an easy way to prevent that is to make sure it's well ventilated (Got a laptop stand in the hopes of mitigating the heat problems), and hooking it up to an external monitor should in theory help, as it doesn't have to backlight its own screen

    • @kingdom9214
      @kingdom9214 Před 8 měsíci +1

      No the Ayaneo uses industrial a-Si TFT-LCD displays, these panels are rated for operation up to 80c.

  • @gluttonousmaximus9048
    @gluttonousmaximus9048 Před 11 měsíci +210

    As we all know, the best x86-64 handheld is the SteamDeck, and the best SteamDeck variant is the slightly damaged Value Village Lenovo G450. So if any x86-64 handheld costs more than $7.99, I'll call the cops to report their robbery.

    • @ZalYagunRyai
      @ZalYagunRyai Před 11 měsíci +3

      Man that sucks that the steamdeck is still the best one
      I got one i kinda hate it

    • @mediaman9719
      @mediaman9719 Před 11 měsíci +7

      ​@@ZalYagunRyaiIt's not, bunch of Valve simps. I have one and an Ally as well as the 6800u Geek. Both the Ally and the 6800u outperform the SD.

    • @lolcat
      @lolcat Před 11 měsíci +61

      ​@@mediaman9719performance isn't everything in a handheld. if that was the case the vita would've murdered the 3ds

    • @Jedebiah
      @Jedebiah Před 11 měsíci +8

      @@lolcatwhen it comes to a pc handheld that ends up trying to play the same games across both devices, performance matters. ally beats deck

    • @MrREAPERsz
      @MrREAPERsz Před 11 měsíci +6

      It terms of price to performance steamdeck destroys everything.
      But everything else is more powerful nowadays.
      Either way I can't use a windows handheld device anymore after the 1st Aya neo. That shit has the same issues as the 2s.

  • @aviationbutterr
    @aviationbutterr Před 11 měsíci +255

    First time I’ve seen a CZcams actually criticize something they got for free. Props on you 👍

    • @nunyabidnes6010
      @nunyabidnes6010 Před 11 měsíci +9

      Then you didn't watch many good reviewers

    • @cyjanek7818
      @cyjanek7818 Před 11 měsíci +29

      @@nunyabidnes6010 there are like 2-3 channels that actually are not afraid of losing sponsorship because they need money

    • @TheRed02151
      @TheRed02151 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@cyjanek7818 yeah and those channels already have enough money and/or another high paying job to supplement with. Can't blame people for trying to make a living.

    • @youtoozboi763
      @youtoozboi763 Před 4 měsíci

      Caddicarus did in his mini ps1 video

  • @jemrules835
    @jemrules835 Před 11 měsíci +319

    It's easy, just water cool it. It's not hard. Linus does it all the time.

    • @CIARUNSITE
      @CIARUNSITE Před 11 měsíci +54

      Just put it in the freezer before playing.

    • @charmingoracle129
      @charmingoracle129 Před 11 měsíci +73

      @@CIARUNSITEyeah, or better yet just play it in the freezer. This thing will keep you nice and cozy.

    • @GiantMrTHX
      @GiantMrTHX Před 11 měsíci +14

      Yup just buy CNC machine and other workshop essentials and u are good to go 😛

    • @liesandy291
      @liesandy291 Před 10 měsíci +2

      More money then

    • @Clipahoy
      @Clipahoy Před 10 měsíci +5

      He dunks his graphic cards in his coffee before he plays Among Us.

  • @M4ximumCheese
    @M4ximumCheese Před 11 měsíci +173

    The trimble yuma is still better though, the yuma is peak gaming

    • @Many_Sparrows
      @Many_Sparrows Před 11 měsíci +21

      Leapfrog is peak gaming!!

    • @michelvanbriemen3459
      @michelvanbriemen3459 Před 11 měsíci +17

      Well it must be better. The Trimble doesn't overheat when downloading games.

  • @Fuckthis0341
    @Fuckthis0341 Před 6 měsíci +33

    For a while there I almost thought I moved too fast buying a Steam Deck. The longer we get to look at the Windows handhelds, the more it seems like the Steam Deck is the most finished of these products. I’m happy with my Steam Deck

  • @eggbag4182
    @eggbag4182 Před 11 měsíci +46

    Fun fact, the Xbox button IS the same as the Steam button, but in order for that to work you have to completely remove all Xbox applications from Windows (i.e. game bar)

    • @CarbonPanther
      @CarbonPanther Před 11 měsíci +20

      Now that i think about it, isn't gamebar an option you can disable within the windows settings themselves?
      Yes. It literally is, Windows settings > Gaming > Xbox Game bar > Off
      Unless that's what you meant with your comment

    • @eggbag4182
      @eggbag4182 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@CarbonPantherI did not know that! I removed all of them completely with a debloater as soon as I installed windows lol

    • @lolcat
      @lolcat Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@CarbonPantheryou don't have to turn it off you can just turn off the shortcut

    • @JessicaFEREM
      @JessicaFEREM Před 9 měsíci +1

      to completely remove game bar you need to use a powershell command to uninstall it. and some games don't like it when you do that.

  • @mylatedroid101
    @mylatedroid101 Před 10 měsíci +72

    So happy to see a person who actually critique these hand-helds instead of blindly singing their praises (ahem certain big tech review guy who shills these guys A LOT). Good on you bro, earned a new sub!

  • @parkerlreed
    @parkerlreed Před 11 měsíci +78

    The conclusion is perfect. Valve hit it out of the park with their hardware even if it doesn't excel at everything. Perfect cost to performance ratio and they actually care about supporting Linux.

    • @RadikAlice
      @RadikAlice Před 11 měsíci +17

      They know better than anyone, depending on something you can't control means you'll be fucked eventually

    • @battman505
      @battman505 Před 11 měsíci +6

      If they cared so much they'd make steamos open source and easily accessible on other devices

    • @RadikAlice
      @RadikAlice Před 11 měsíci +13

      @@battman505 How do I say this nicely… It is, has always been. They're just planning to release it along with version 3.5
      I take it you didn't know it existed since the Steam Machine days, it was just Debian-based back then

    • @mosthated8848
      @mosthated8848 Před 11 měsíci +5

      The Steam deck has been doing me good service but, I just brought the Asus Ally it's going to replace my Steam Deck but, I know the next Steam Deck is going to be insane. Hopefully, they can get with Nintendo and, get that got damn oled screen at 120hz oh baby I think I creamed a little.

  • @philo23
    @philo23 Před 11 měsíci +148

    For future reference, Ctrl + 1 and Ctrl + 2 open the steam and three dot menu thing respectively. Similarly Guide + A on a Xbox controller opens up the Steam menu too. Not that it helps you too much without having to plug in an external keyboard on this thing

    • @NonsensicalSpudz
      @NonsensicalSpudz Před 11 měsíci +12

      or PS + X

    • @gregoryderpwrld111
      @gregoryderpwrld111 Před 2 měsíci

      Hah! Wow! It even works on baseline Steam Deck with an external keyboard
      Now what do I do in desktop mode if I can’t exit a window? The Steam button seemingly does nothing, but holding down the power button works well

  • @beefglobb
    @beefglobb Před 11 měsíci +69

    I had an original Windows Surface that would get hot on the touch screen and ended up with same kind of screen damage. It started subtle like in the video, got brighter, got orange and eventually just looked like a burn mark on the side of the screen. I really doubt they are going to do anything about it before shipping to actual customers.

  • @Castcoder
    @Castcoder Před 11 měsíci +120

    I am grateful of your honest review. When a company like AYANEO puts out devices every two months, these quality control, customer support, and communication blunders are going to take low priority. Your burned a bridge but gained my trust, amongst many others.

    • @mosthated8848
      @mosthated8848 Před 11 měsíci +15

      Exactly overpriced junk

    • @polocatfan
      @polocatfan Před 11 měsíci +9

      He burned a bridge that was impossible for him to use anyways. He lost nothing.

    • @guiseppeperceval4930
      @guiseppeperceval4930 Před 9 měsíci

      I'm buying one because of this review. I love in Aus, so our options aren't great.

    • @SonicBoone56
      @SonicBoone56 Před 3 měsíci

      They're the McLaren of handhelds lol

  • @Skylancer727
    @Skylancer727 Před 11 měsíci +46

    The bleed from the right side could also be because the device uses an inverted panel. As you saw when loading an OS on it, it defaulted to portrait. There's a good odds it's edge lit from the bottom side as well.

    • @shanez1215
      @shanez1215 Před 9 měsíci +9

      I believe this has an OLED panel, so there's no backlight. OLED does turn white when heat damaged though.

    • @Custmzir
      @Custmzir Před 5 měsíci +8

      ​@@shanez1215it's not an OLED, he clearly mentions that it has an LCD screen

    • @medievalan6285
      @medievalan6285 Před měsícem

      ​@@shanez1215it's lcd

  • @SchmidleMcDingle
    @SchmidleMcDingle Před 9 měsíci +5

    I had a zune on my desk, so thank you for using it as a standard frame of reference

  • @zenith251
    @zenith251 Před 11 měsíci +52

    Subscribed. I like that you went out of your way, likely pissing off Ayaneo and possibly burning that source, to explain in detail the issue you found. Ya held nothing back, despite them asking.
    I'm not an Ayaneo owner, but I have pondered buying one, a Steam Deck, or GPD Win in the past. This is interesting... I wonder how they'll respond. The *SMART* thing to do would be to overnight a "fixed" retail unit, if such a thing exists. And even then, the fact that they didn't admit it to be a known issue is deeply concerning. If they *DID* know and didn't want to admit it, that's also deeply concerning.
    In short, everything here is a deeply concerning and you're a boss for not holding back punches.

  • @BrianJones-wk8cx
    @BrianJones-wk8cx Před 11 měsíci +135

    Wow. At first I was like, “Time for ya boy to eat, ballin’ with that premium handheld action.” But as this video wore on, I was like, “Yikes.” Thanks for taking us along on your wacky computer adventures. I wasn’t sure what to expect, but you delivered an insightful, diligent, uniquely bringus level perspective on this device, one that is necessary for those considering the eye-watering purchase. Been a long time filthy casual, but clicking that subscribe button now. Bravo, brother. Yep, just went Hulk Hogan on you.

  • @soupdrinker72
    @soupdrinker72 Před 11 měsíci +9

    "something something SSD" BRINGUS STUDIOS DOESNT EVEN NEED AUTOTUNE🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @__Ben
    @__Ben Před 11 měsíci +24

    Disappointing. to be fair if it's a pre production device then maybe this is fixed in production ones but the resolve for that is definitely *not* telling you not to mention it in the video and should be more like "feel free to mention it but we'll send you a production one when they're ready and you can provide an update".
    Always rubs me the wrong way when companies try to strongarm creators into leaving out info like this and I can't help but feel like they wouldn't have the balls to tell a larger channel like LTT to leave something like this out.
    I respect your willingness to keep it in and probably torch your relationship with them as a reviewer who can get media devices in future though!
    EDIT: I didn't think it'd get worse when I left this comment but I watched more and.... those temperatures are insanely not good! what on earth.... I really hope they fix stuff in production models but this is pretty concerning.

  • @fuckoff5893
    @fuckoff5893 Před 8 měsíci +6

    You looked like Mac from Always Sunny in the reflection and then I got hit with that incredible music number. 10/10 subscrib

  • @anickname916
    @anickname916 Před 11 měsíci +11

    "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should"

  • @Artenesama
    @Artenesama Před 11 měsíci +11

    The accordion sound effect was a great addition. You should put on every video for anything that would make any kind of sound.

  • @TommyCrosby
    @TommyCrosby Před 11 měsíci +29

    Having bought a Ryzen 6800H laptop that is too thin for it's own good, I can confirm, these chips are awesome and truly powerful but you can't beat physics of heat dissipation and will hit thermal throttling FAST. The 7000 series (depending on the model because few are 6000 rebadged) are a bit better but man, they are still 6 or 8 cores with 30W+ TDP SoCs. The Steamdeck is beefier with a much less powerful SoC of 15W, no wonder why it's still the king despite having 4 Zen2 cores and 8 RDNA2 CU.

  • @orlyboi28
    @orlyboi28 Před 9 měsíci +25

    OMG I ALMOST BOUGHT THIS UNIT. Thank you for this honest review.
    After sales is very important in my opinion, and their response to your concerns (trying to give bs excuses) to me, shows how they would respond to actual customer complaints.
    Well i guess it’s just Ally vs Steamdeck for me. Or maybe i’ll watch a few more of your videos.

  • @TylerFurrison
    @TylerFurrison Před 11 měsíci +23

    According to what I found, the Steam Deck charger does 45W, and the Ayaneo 2S charger might do 65W for itself and the other 35W is for the other ports

  • @DimNussens
    @DimNussens Před 11 měsíci +37

    The song breakdown killed me, that was *glorious*

  • @BirdSpotter43
    @BirdSpotter43 Před 6 měsíci +5

    You give me Dankpod style vibes and i like that. The moment i saw the Zune I knew Id enjoy your content. Got a new sub~

  • @grzegorz__
    @grzegorz__ Před 9 měsíci +8

    Absolutely Fantastic Review.
    I bought Ayaneo 1S Geek because I was superhyped, after watching many "reviews" from famous youTubers (who review handhelds). What literally NOBODY mentioned was:
    - "steam" / "xbox" button does NOT work properly, it is simply some kind of WIN+G shortcut or something like that. As a reason you cannot 100 % mimmick Steam OS behaviour (sidebar open when navigating being outside of the game AND showing some options / sidebar when being in game - this literally means - if game does not have "QUIT GAME" button / option, you cannot quit game, unless you explicitly map one of other buttons to do ALT+F4). The only way you can make it probably work is to install additional software that "turns off" original controller and replaces it with virtual one / mappable. But this is rather serious hmm adjustment, that most probably will have downside especially when using ie. emulators.
    - drivers thing on windows. To be fair this is probably AMD issue. None of these windows handhelds have official drivers. Each manufacturer has some kind of preview / adjusted Ryzn 7840U drivers. You cannot install official drivers. As a result, I for example, don't have adrenaline software at all. Drivers updated but Adrenaline can't be opened ;p I'm not bothered to be fair - it's just a not that some future updates may be an issue. On Steam Deck it just updates :)
    - windows is also quite heavily configured, adjusted. Yea, it's okay as windows has tons of services, but at the same time, sometimes it's just too big, and prevents some things to be done. Judging by Reddit threads, some weird issues were only solves after doing full reinstall windows, settings up everything on your own etc. Again, no a big issue, but on Steam Deck I don't need to think about such things.
    - my device had issues when turned off. You literally ... couldn't turn it on (even if you do "long press"). As a result, when I turn it off, I probably just go somewhere, wait, I don't know 30 mins, 1 hour. Yea, probably I could ship it back, but i decided that ... ok, I can live with that. Probably my unit is hmm a bit tricky.
    - buttons that can be mapped are hmm working in a different way than Steam Deck buttons on Steam OS. Perfect example is streaming locally via ie. Moonlight / Sunshine. If I map one button in Windows, in Ayaneo to do ALT+F4 (quit program), it will literally close the whole Moonlight client , which results in a big mess on a host computer :) On Steam Deck buttons are bettter integrated - the buttons are ... a controller. This means that they operate WITHIN a program. So, If I map "quit" / "ALT+f4" button there, it does NOT close whole moonlight - it closes that app / game that is ran within. This gives so much more consistent behaviour in terms of UI / UX. It's just Steam Deck buttons are "real controller" buttons, while all these windows handhelds buttons are just keyboard shortcuts.
    - weight. STeam Deck is so much lighter. Not a big deal ? Well, play a game for an hour or two and you'll see a difference :)
    At first, I was very angry. Literally none of the CZcamsrs mentioned honestly how much better, smooth, consistent Steam OS / Deck is compared to all these windows handhelds. I felt like I wasted 800 $. Luckily, after a week or something, I managed to configure things to some kind of an "accepted" level. Sure, windows system gives some benefits:
    - you can play mmorpg / online / launcher games much more easily
    - you can play "non-working" on Steam Deck games.
    - you can mod games much more easily - this is very important if you like to ie. mod Fallout 4, Fallout New Vegas, GTA V etc.
    - i can configure AyaNeo easily via Chrome Remote Desktop very easily and nicely. Two clicks and I see AyaNeo screen / desktop on my desktop computer. This is REALLY good.
    BUT unfortunately you are the minority. Nobody talks about the issues that many windows handhelds have. Sure, the CPU is better. Actually this difference makes reallu quite a lot of bigger games more playable BUT overall, I would say that spending 700-800 $ for a Steam Deck replacement is not worth.
    It's just after many youTube reviews, I expected silky smooth experience while the reality is more like battle from many years ago between IOS and Android. Steam Deck = iPhone, Windows handhelds = Android 3.0 ;p (and I'm saying this as android fan :) ).

    • @BringusStudios
      @BringusStudios  Před 9 měsíci +5

      I think a lot of people and other reviewers get swept up in the raw compute power battle when it comes to things like this, and completely forget that if it's a pain in the ass to use,then none of that matters. Valve's software and hardware integration is so tight compared to the rest right now, everything else just feels like pulling teeth to use. And ESPECIALLY for the prices

  • @PokechiYT
    @PokechiYT Před 4 měsíci +5

    *Doesn’t update the kernel* “I don’t get it. It says it’s compatible but it’s not working!”

    • @NaddlyC
      @NaddlyC Před měsícem +1

      Yeah, that was lame

  • @TheDudeWithNoName
    @TheDudeWithNoName Před 10 měsíci +15

    Great review, thank you for not hiding the issues and being honest, and the reason i click on your videos is that not only your editing and humor clicks with me, it's extremely satisfying to see you mess around with hardware and do goofy stuff with them, your content is pretty unique and you post quite often for the amount of effort you put for your videos so yeah man, i'm glad you're not experiencing burnout because man you put a lot of time and your sanity to make things happen with the hardware and software you work with, thanks a lot!

    • @BringusStudios
      @BringusStudios  Před 10 měsíci +6

      Thanks for the words man! It helps that I'm a bit of a perfectionist and I feel like everything needs to be just right when I'm editing. As far as burnout goes, I can feel it sometimes but it really helps to see comments like yours. Makes it all worth it

  • @hadookin47
    @hadookin47 Před 7 měsíci +4

    My Steam Deck runs all my favorite retro games and modded Minecraft. I can't ask for more

  • @rob465
    @rob465 Před 11 měsíci +14

    I watched another review of a recent handheld that the factory "overclocked" before they sent to the reviewer in order to position the device as a better performer and then the retail unit did not perform as well but did not get as hot.
    I wonder if this is the case with your unit.

    • @francistaylor1822
      @francistaylor1822 Před 10 měsíci +3

      if so its misleading and they deserve what they get

  • @hhhpccc
    @hhhpccc Před 11 měsíci +7

    the size reference with the priv was actually really helpful. Those were boss phones!

  • @joneg7777
    @joneg7777 Před 5 měsíci +2

    big fan of the mini mixed beat near the beginning. felt like an anime intro, you can't just skip it. very welcomed

  • @colororb4105
    @colororb4105 Před 11 měsíci +10

    Was talking to an electrical engineer friend about this vid, and he suggested there might be a short circuit near where the heat is.
    That could explain why it got so hot even at low TDPs

    • @joj.
      @joj. Před 3 měsíci +1

      Also an eIectronic engineer - if you treat silicon like a short, which I guess it mostly is, then this is true.
      Or, actually, the chips inside the 2S use too much power to cool. They're dumping the extra heat into the screen glass like a mobile phone, ignoring that phones use hugely efficient Arm chips and this is a laptop CPU and mobile GPU. It's constantly an issue with these "Steam Deck Killers" - any company can fit more power into the Deck's form factor, but it's so impractical to cool and use that it genuinely hurts usability.

  • @indie_guy
    @indie_guy Před 6 měsíci +5

    Recently discovered this channel, and I absolutely love it 😂 I know nothing about technology but I enjoy this regardless

  • @bluekaygaming
    @bluekaygaming Před 14 dny +1

    For reference, a first degree burn is usually caused by exposure to temperatures between 110°F (43.3°C) and 115°F (46.1°C) for a *short* duration. Not only is there a chance you could get first degree burns on that thing; but that chance is actually quite high

  • @N3orion
    @N3orion Před 11 měsíci +4

    Came for the thumbnail. Stayed for the tunes.
    Great overview. While not a device I'm after, I love keeping up the space for my future Ally/Steamdeck replacements

  • @TURBONERD
    @TURBONERD Před 5 měsíci +5

    The Steam Deck really is the sweet spot of price to performance. Good QA and thoughtful design methodology from hardware to software/UX is all top-notch... And while I think there is still room for improvement, the bar is set high: I don't really understand why anyone would buy from a company called AYANEO and expect anything good.
    Valve continues to hurt it's own bottom line by refusing to rollout official sale and support for Steam Decks in many places internationally: Just one of the many reasons why companies like AYANEO can continue to exist, even if they make half-baked products.

  • @UBvtuber
    @UBvtuber Před 5 měsíci +4

    Like many others have said, you might have burned a pretty significant bridge here (in fact, you might have burned a few if other companies watch this and think you'll pack their products), but what you did gain....... was my respect, and the respect of many others clearly.
    In fact, i've probably been watching your content for a while, but this is the video that made me subscribe. Seeing someone on CZcams being this honest at the expense of free hardware and potential sponsorships is rarer than a conservative black woman in San Francisco.

  • @xelitenefy5624
    @xelitenefy5624 Před 11 měsíci +9

    Bringus, the "Xbox Button" was probably running Win + G which is the bind to open the game bar, and the game bar can be disabled from the settings.

  • @nikolashumphrey-howell2478
    @nikolashumphrey-howell2478 Před 5 měsíci +1

    wow the size comparisons really worked well, im so glad my first-gen Zune came in handy for more than a paperweight this time :)

  • @CampGareth
    @CampGareth Před 2 měsíci +2

    I owned a Blackberry Priv so that size comparison was useful, thank you. I miss that phone and wish either that it was useful today (ancient android version) or that another manufacturer would give that form factor a go.

  • @WohaoG
    @WohaoG Před 11 měsíci +6

    FYI: Under WIndows 11's GAMING setting you can set game bar to not be mapped to XBOX Button

  • @pauldeshield
    @pauldeshield Před 11 měsíci +6

    I mentioned the light bleed issue and got the same response. I have many handehelds without this issue. Shouldn't have to turn down the brightness to avoid bleed.

  • @McDeezy4sheezy
    @McDeezy4sheezy Před 11 měsíci +4

    Excellent video. Love the format too! Informative and entertaining. Potential owners of these Chinese handhelds should know what they’re getting into when they buy these devices. GPD as well. Their devices look nice and offer a tremendous amount of performance for a handheld but good luck getting any type of coherent support for it if ever needed. And expect a hefty shipping label if you need to RMA it across the world.
    Valve and iFixit support for the Steam Deck is a godsend for that device.

  • @inferno7528
    @inferno7528 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Bro that remix slapped! I did not expect that whatsoever. 😂

  • @masoncombs7799
    @masoncombs7799 Před 11 měsíci +11

    Really appreciate your honesty man. I knew I chose a good favorite tech channel. Even without the heat issues that lightbleed was pretty agregious. For now ill stick to my Yuma as my one and only gaming choice. It's Yuma or Nothin'.

  • @capralmarines4043
    @capralmarines4043 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Why didn't you test the games on Windows? I was super curious as to what kind of performance we can expect from this device when it runs as it's expected.

    • @BringusStudios
      @BringusStudios  Před 11 měsíci +6

      Hey, I didn't bother testing games in Windows because there are a lot of other channels that will give you better info than I ever could. Here's a good one: czcams.com/video/xwgO65C7Ut4/video.html

    • @capralmarines4043
      @capralmarines4043 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@BringusStudios My curiosity has been satisfied. Thanks Mr. Bringus!

  • @ianozi24
    @ianozi24 Před 2 měsíci

    You are really entertaining my dude, Thank you, keep doing what you’re doing.

  • @abdaimegaming2679
    @abdaimegaming2679 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Big respect for your honest review man, it's rare nowadays to see that

  • @ruineka_one
    @ruineka_one Před 11 měsíci +5

    EDIT: I saw you press B in the video and it didn't' enable the gamepad.. I'll look into this.
    The gamepad has a sleep mode, press B to turn on the gamepad, don't constantly reboot the system. I didn't even know you could do that.

  • @Gestersmek
    @Gestersmek Před 11 měsíci +6

    8:15 I've seen this before when playing around with some Japanese fonts. The character that gets printed with the apostrophe key on English keyboards will inexplicably have a load of extra space following it.
    Edit: bro threw away his Chromium for another Chromium

  • @U.N.K
    @U.N.K Před 5 měsíci +1

    most big product review channels always lie about sponsored products! God bless you for being honest to audiences

  • @RyuKingTheHellhound
    @RyuKingTheHellhound Před 4 měsíci

    I love the portal and portal 2 soundtracks used in your videos so much! They're always a bop to hear just outta nowhere when you finally realize that's what you're hearing.

  • @VeEeARE
    @VeEeARE Před 11 měsíci +4

    Everybody gangsta until OUYA makes handheld

  • @d.d.m2208
    @d.d.m2208 Před 11 měsíci +6

    "Dislikes edge"
    "Uses Chrome instead"
    What

  • @datpspguy
    @datpspguy Před 11 měsíci +1

    We need more folks like you sharing the information that isn't sponsored or watered down! I learned the hard way listening to big influencers on CZcams regarding the ROG Ally and told myself I would only listen to reviews from smaller channels. My device came yesterday and haven't opened it yet and not sure what I want to do with it either now. But thank you for this honest review!!

  • @THE-ICON
    @THE-ICON Před 11 měsíci +1

    I really respect your attention to detail and everything you tried to do and everything you broke down about the conversation transparency between you and the company I think this is a very extensive detailed perfectly done hopefully the retail unit will be better but this has been a definite help to the consumer thank you keep up the good work I know that it's a lot of work

  • @TheRealAdachi
    @TheRealAdachi Před 10 měsíci +8

    Bro aya neo is never gonna send you something again 💀💀💀 especially since you showed the email

    • @Swinsl
      @Swinsl Před měsícem +2

      Holy shit real adachi hi

  • @tryharddoge
    @tryharddoge Před 11 měsíci +5

    this is like slightly higher budget dankpods

  • @SirWhiteFireO
    @SirWhiteFireO Před 5 měsíci +2

    I really appreciate the among us sticker being thrown in there. Really helped with grasping the size of the device

  • @DeckedSneeze709
    @DeckedSneeze709 Před 4 měsíci +1

    What’s funny is the Mario no synced perfectly with my screen time running out

  • @asscrackburger6932
    @asscrackburger6932 Před 10 měsíci +6

    I bought the Ayaneo 2s and I have been loving it. I can make a grilled cheese, egg I've even cooked a juicy steak with it. 10/10 the best portable stovetop money can buy.

  • @fatburdo
    @fatburdo Před 11 měsíci +6

    I wonder if your unit specifically is defective, though? They should've brought it up on their email at least

    • @BringusStudios
      @BringusStudios  Před 11 měsíci +13

      That's genuinely what I expected to be told, that mine just has a defect. Speaks volumes when they told me how to cope with it instead.

  • @mattyflips
    @mattyflips Před 10 měsíci +3

    Genuinely interested. What happens to the device after you've reviewed it if you don't care to keep them for yourself? Do you have to send it back to supplier or is it yours to pass on?

  • @james7110
    @james7110 Před 5 měsíci

    4:18 BRO. Work of a true musician. That jaunt had me movin.

  • @SamuraisEpic
    @SamuraisEpic Před 5 měsíci +1

    for the record gamescope-session-git from the aur is basically what steamos is. it's just a special gamescope session.

  • @durbeeno
    @durbeeno Před 11 měsíci +3

    Not gonna lie the pressed hamburger joke got me rollin.

  • @zeala53
    @zeala53 Před 11 měsíci +13

    Thats the problem with these chinese companies that pop out 2 or 3 handhelds a year, the qc isnt 100% and the support stops as soon as the next itteration comes out. One reason i have bought 3 steamdecks for myself and family is because the software and aftermarket support is so good, and only getting better... Im gonna hold out till valve releases a gen 2 deck, hopefully sometime soon.

    • @gluttonousmaximus9048
      @gluttonousmaximus9048 Před 11 měsíci

      I'm sooooo wishing for Nintendo to give up their console business right now because the Switch's ecosystem is so garbage that it's a burden on their games rather than a healthy companion. If somehow Valve gets Nintendo on board, I'll pick up a deck in a heartbeat.

    • @ThePhilosogamer
      @ThePhilosogamer Před 11 měsíci

      Again with this racist, provably incorrect bullshit. QC isn't 100% with any company anywhere in the world, but if you had to narrow down your best options they'd be either German or Chinese - any country whose economy is primarily based on manufacturing. The Steam Deck's parts ARE MADE IN TAIWAN AND CHINA.
      With respect to Aya, they've been at this for 3 years, and they have made 4 distinct SKUs - their flagship device, an upgrade to the flagship, another upgrade to the flagship, and a smaller device. They are following standard laptop manufacturer protocol on a smaller scale. They have also continued to support their devices both on the hardware and software fronts years after release, and are even giving away free upgrade kits right now to purchasers of their earlier devices. These companies definitely have their issues (read: software development), but after market support sure as shit is not one of them.

  • @dirkboi6844
    @dirkboi6844 Před 8 měsíci

    Amazing transparency bro have to sub entirely for that

  • @GrassiestGrassy
    @GrassiestGrassy Před 11 měsíci +8

    They sent you one, expecting some advertising from you. Instead, they got their product torn to shreds.

    • @ligametis
      @ligametis Před 10 měsíci +1

      He used it in Linux. It is clearly for windows

    • @ajipriyowibowo956
      @ajipriyowibowo956 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@ligametis But in windows still get worse on temperature

  • @colororb4105
    @colororb4105 Před 11 měsíci +3

    13:40 I'm getting a company-issued laptop on Monday for my first job. Thinking about coming to work on Tuesday morning with that sticker on it lol

    • @BringusStudios
      @BringusStudios  Před 11 měsíci +2

      My God that's some good malicious compliance right there

  • @EdwardMitchell2917
    @EdwardMitchell2917 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Love your honesty man. Wish more CZcamsrs were like this. There's a lot of CZcamsrs that promote a product to keep a good relationship with the manufacturer and don't give an honest review. Happy I bought the ROG Ally over all these other brands. I'll probably get a Steam Deck too!

  • @plr_hightower7264
    @plr_hightower7264 Před 2 měsíci +1

    quick life hack, since you dont have feeling in your nails, you can use them on a burning hot touch screen, results may vary

  • @supking403
    @supking403 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Microsoft needs to make a handheld specific version of windows

  • @marcusschulte1342
    @marcusschulte1342 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Am I the only person that has caught on to the fact this guy seems to start a video complaining about minor annoyances on windows, then says "screw this let's install Linux" only for him to go through multiple distros dealing with multiple serious problems and searching continuously for solutions to these problems online to just barely get things working and never come to any kind of solid realization about the irony of what's happening?

  • @Kajifox
    @Kajifox Před 2 měsíci +1

    As soon as I saw the Priv I knew how big it was.
    And I am jealous of the Priv.
    Fuck I wish there was a new one.

  • @TheLexikitty
    @TheLexikitty Před 11 měsíci +1

    I have a GPD Win 4 and nearly the entire back is a giant grille and fan, so I’m not surprised there’s heat issues with that thing, there’s barely any venting comparatively.

  • @NonsensicalSpudz
    @NonsensicalSpudz Před 11 měsíci +18

    this is the thing why the steam deck will be and remain to solid choice, cost, quality and support

    • @hueypautonoman
      @hueypautonoman Před 11 měsíci +7

      What's funny about that is that Valve wasn't exactly known for great support, but they really ramped it up for the Steam Deck. It shows how vital its success is for them.

    • @icravedeath.1200
      @icravedeath.1200 Před 11 měsíci +3

      ​@@hueypautonomanI guess they also don't want a tech experiment of theirs to blow up in their face for once.

    • @CarbonPanther
      @CarbonPanther Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@hueypautonoman But when was that? In my experience their support has been excellent at least since the Valve Index ~2019
      I'm just saying that because saying a companies support isn't great when that experience was 10 or so years ago isn't the fairest even though it can be justified depending on the product

    • @hueypautonoman
      @hueypautonoman Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@CarbonPanther We probably have very different ideas about what makes something "great." Some people think everything has to have a 10/10 for even basic service. I see a perfect score as going well above and beyond the bare minimum. "Great" to me is all their support for open source software, the excellent repairability, opening up repair centers for faster turnaround on issues, etc. They might have been good before, but they've clearly kicked it up a notch, something most companies don't do.

    • @MrREAPERsz
      @MrREAPERsz Před 11 měsíci

      Their support is awesome.

  • @petroid_
    @petroid_ Před 11 měsíci +5

    Love your videos, they are very funny

  • @AJOrdaz
    @AJOrdaz Před 10 měsíci +2

    Thank you for the honest review. I have an Ayaneo Air 5560u and it has the exact same heating problems. The screen and the area around it gets dangerously hot with light use. Mine is a retail unit so this is clearly a design problem. It is crazy to see the big youtubers keep praising Ayaneo devices and none of them mention the heat issues. It is specially crazy when now we know it isn't limited to just one model. It is the main issue with their consoles and the fact they tried to prevent you from making this public is just wrong.

  • @sparkysuyash529
    @sparkysuyash529 Před měsícem

    Bro your editing skills are damm good

  • @regav62
    @regav62 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Fu** yeah! It's an OTG adapter

  • @lukedavis436
    @lukedavis436 Před 11 měsíci +4

    I knew most of the response was gonna be BS the MOMENT they started the email thread with
    "Hi Dear"
    THIS IS A BRAND!!!...not Grandma!!

  • @awesomemercerdude
    @awesomemercerdude Před měsícem

    After watching the first 8 seconds of this video, I concluded that the Ayaneo 2D is just the piece of hardware I’m looking for. Thanks again for another great review!

  • @TeleviseGuy
    @TeleviseGuy Před 5 měsíci

    The Something Something SSD song was completely unexpected and it made me happy. This is the type of stuff I love in a video!

  • @Casmael01
    @Casmael01 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Chrome bad be using Firefox like all True Gamerz

  • @sasuke11457
    @sasuke11457 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Just like the steam deck they use panels for phones so they are vertical. I only seen Rog Ally have a horizontal panel.

    • @doublinx2
      @doublinx2 Před 11 měsíci

      Unlike the steam Deck, unfortunately, their firmware on first boot takes longer to fix itself to the correct orientation.

    • @ThePhilosogamer
      @ThePhilosogamer Před 11 měsíci

      @@doublinx2 It takes less than a minute to fix the screen orientation. This isn't a significant issue.

    • @tylern6420
      @tylern6420 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@doublinx2 i feel like the bigger issue is the screen cooking itself

  • @vaduur
    @vaduur Před 11 měsíci +1

    Oh wew, that's a honest review for sure, thank you for this!

  • @tipsythecat
    @tipsythecat Před 2 měsíci +1

    they really told this man to not report a literal hazard

  • @TheExFatal
    @TheExFatal Před 11 měsíci +4

    finishing a review of a pc handheld by saying "just buy their main competitor" is a power move