Bike Headset Bearing Types, Identification, Compatibility, and Specification Guide

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024

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  • @audiosabre
    @audiosabre Před 5 lety +22

    You're an absolute legend. I've gone from confusion, to knowing the terminology and exact standards/parts I need to fit my new fork. Bookmarked for future reference.

  • @UKViking
    @UKViking Před 3 lety +17

    After many difficult months of not understanding my headset, I found this video. My pain is gone.

  • @bowleggedbear
    @bowleggedbear Před 3 lety +7

    This was so very helpful. Thank you. The voice distortion played out like a story. You're obviously sharing secret occult bike knowledge, and have to disguise your voice for the safety of you and your family. It's not easy being a bicycle heretic, freeing the masses. Thanks again.

  • @2hiperkemanci
    @2hiperkemanci Před 4 lety +36

    the most informative video about headsets I have ever seen on CZcams.

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      @abelwesson3767 Před 2 lety

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      @remyalvin6603 Před 2 lety

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  • @williamensign1408
    @williamensign1408 Před 5 lety +6

    One of the most, if not the
    most comprehensive video about bike components ever. Thanks.

  • @jeffs9875
    @jeffs9875 Před 3 lety +5

    Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video! When I bought my Mountain Bike they tell you nothing about this. Now that I am up grading my front shocks I was again'st a wall trying to figure it all out. You laid it all out and it so simple.

  • @MakeMajor
    @MakeMajor Před 6 lety +9

    this probably took a lot of time to make, but thank you so much! i'm replacing a headset on my vintage bike and this video helped me clear out a lot of things cheers

  • @chrisprice3493
    @chrisprice3493 Před 2 lety

    This might be 4 Years old, but the best video for information on headsets. Cheers John.

  • @Paul_Gale
    @Paul_Gale Před 2 měsíci

    My brain hurts after listening to all that mess.
    I'm glad I could follow your explanations.
    well done ,just subbed

  • @RidesInforests
    @RidesInforests Před 5 lety +6

    John you are amazing. This stuff has been so helpfull. Just started at a pro bike shop in uk and my head is swimming.

  • @jiw71
    @jiw71 Před 6 lety +2

    thank you! you just taught an old dog new tricks. Very detailed, informative and easily understood!

  • @billheintz4529
    @billheintz4529 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks, I picked up a yard sale bike with an integrated headtube, however the bearings on the top of the steer-tube were external and on the bottom of the steer-tube were missing. This video helped me sort out what I needed.

  • @peterdon3596
    @peterdon3596 Před 3 lety +1

    Absolutely excellent video. Great to have the index at the start. Data much appreciated.

  • @marian7965
    @marian7965 Před 5 lety +4

    Great video, many thanks. Exact, systematic and detailed description. Helps a lot to me. Thx!

  • @Orisman9
    @Orisman9 Před 6 lety +2

    Very informative and the music fit just great! Thank you!!

  • @MechanicalEI
    @MechanicalEI Před 5 lety +1

    JohnTheBikeGuy, Great Video. The demonstration was perfectly supported by your explanation. Thanks for uploading!

  • @MrNAMASTE1968
    @MrNAMASTE1968 Před rokem

    I'm late to the party, but wow! You covered everything! Had all my questions answered, and much more! Thanks so much!

  • @vrproductreviews6330
    @vrproductreviews6330 Před 5 lety +3

    best viewed at 1.5 speed. Good info. Thanks for posting this.

  • @seanmcaleavy2369
    @seanmcaleavy2369 Před 6 lety +5

    Very informative and helpful! Thanks a lot!

  • @keyboardcritic
    @keyboardcritic Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the information, I was totally lost before watching this. Great job 👍

  • @grahamyoung2261
    @grahamyoung2261 Před 6 měsíci

    very clear, very professional, wee explained, no wise cracks every 30 seconds.... perfect good channel

  • @bradharper9282
    @bradharper9282 Před 6 lety

    Thanks a bunch for the information. I'm ordering a fork for my old Cannondale (Using headset reducers, hate the headshok). Just seeing the assembly gave me a much better understanding. (Keep the music, I love it)

  • @tracimckinney9736
    @tracimckinney9736 Před 5 lety +1

    im fixing up some bikes for kids that live close by. this helped a ton. thank you so much buddy

  • @jafo4775
    @jafo4775 Před 6 lety +13

    I kinda like the music. Relaxing, when my few remaining brain cells are straining to take in the info. Great vid. thanks.

  • @netekv
    @netekv Před 6 lety +2

    awesome! thanks.. please keep making more! and I think the music was a good choice.

  • @masaharumorimoto4761
    @masaharumorimoto4761 Před 4 měsíci

    Oh THANK YOU! I did my 1st repack of my headset bearings last night, complete success but today I woke up and was like "Yo what did I even do?! What was that lil split ring and what was that nut inside my fork called?!" lol thanks again for helping me understand, I think I got it, I want to install a new fork, just need to save up for one now hahaha!

  • @abuzman123
    @abuzman123 Před 4 lety

    I agree with Prof. Mustafa - best headset explanation I have ever seen.

  • @Methodical2
    @Methodical2 Před 6 lety +1

    Learned a lot more about headsets. Thanks

  • @classydays43
    @classydays43 Před 6 lety +1

    Long ass, but bad ass. You just made my life so much easier.

  • @CraigTreptow
    @CraigTreptow Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you!! This was SO helpful.

  • @jesseharris1737
    @jesseharris1737 Před 4 lety +1

    Good sir, I shall nominate you for best video on CZcams! Well done! Bravo!

  • @danielnagy9717
    @danielnagy9717 Před 5 lety +3

    Thank you, it helped me a lot before buying one.

  • @delaguitara
    @delaguitara Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for that!!! Thoroughly enjoyed it and your information was invaluable and very useful. Two thumbs up.

  • @jonathanfarrely83
    @jonathanfarrely83 Před 7 lety

    thanks for this video i asked loads of bike mechanics on youtube to do a video like this as nobody has one on this very confusing subject im suprised you havent more views as my cycling group on facebook are always asking advice on this topic

  • @9987molly
    @9987molly Před 4 lety +1

    Great vid and very informative. What if I just need to replace the cartidge bearings and not the whole headset? How to i determine the size of the Bearings for the cups?

  • @skyhigh9474
    @skyhigh9474 Před 4 lety

    Glad I watched this video. The chart for Integrated Threadless bearings and the angles needed was so helpful. I looked all over to decide the angles for my 1 1/8 1 1/2 tapered fork. Now I know. You are my hero today.

  • @zdravo4
    @zdravo4 Před 4 lety +2

    Hello and thank you for this video.
    It’s very straightforward, clean and understandable for me as a noob.
    Big like and subscribe!

  • @gionnic8922
    @gionnic8922 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm looking to upgrade my Vp-a71 headset to one with sealed bearings. All that I find have a taller stack height. How do I know if they'll work on my bike?

  • @kevinnorman2588
    @kevinnorman2588 Před 6 lety +1

    Hate threaded stems but they are super easy to build/ disassemble but I have always wanted to know the magic behind that little nut that holds handlebars and forks together

  • @arirezaiskandar2710
    @arirezaiskandar2710 Před 5 lety +2

    Truly holistic information, thanks Bro!

  • @jf0314
    @jf0314 Před 6 lety

    Thanks for this fantastic video!

  • @rafaelfiol3857
    @rafaelfiol3857 Před rokem

    First let me begin by saying that this is the most informative video I have seen on the topic. Before watching it, I was only familiar with external threaded headsets and had no experience with any of threadless styles. One important point to note is that you must be very careful when making definitive statements about any technology that is subject to change over time. In your video, you state that “threaded headsets all are external”. That may very well have been the case when you made the video in 2017 - but by 2020, semi-integrated threaded headsets were also available. The NECO H184 on my Lectric XP eBIke (manufactured in 2020) is an example of such a headset.

    • @johnthebikeguy
      @johnthebikeguy  Před rokem +1

      That’s one of those things that didn’t exist when I made the video. Plus, that shouldn’t really exist - some horrible, mega-cheap, decision by someone in Asia. Or, catering to the worst type of cyclists - newbies that want their stem ultra high and are too cheap to buy an adjustable or high threadless stem. Or, they just had a crapload of surplus frames, threaded forks, and just podged something together. Might as well have had a cottered crank. I’d never buy anything with a threaded stem unless it was a vintage Colnago.

  • @srphillips.4588
    @srphillips.4588 Před 4 lety

    Good stuff John, thanks for the information!!

  • @AbideinChristFully
    @AbideinChristFully Před 4 lety

    This answered my question. I have 44mm straight top and bottom headtube, and I wanted to know if I can use tapered fork. No :(

  • @robpeters5204
    @robpeters5204 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for a very simple explanation!!!

  • @mcduffrobert
    @mcduffrobert Před 3 lety +1

    Hey John, what about using a tapered 1 1/8 to 1 1/2 fork into a straight head tube which has a internal head tube of 44mm. I think you need a external bottom cup that is 44mm outside that will fit up into the head tube and the bearing would then sit outside of the head tube. Is this possible?

  • @buiux
    @buiux Před 6 lety

    Thanks for the video. I'm buying a frame with a integrated headtube of 1 1/8 top - 1 1/4 bottom. Using a integrated headset of the same measure i can use a fork with a straight steertube of 1 1/8 diameter? Will i need an adaptor. Thansk again for the video and atention.

  • @AeroDoggo
    @AeroDoggo Před 5 lety

    Is it normal for an integrated bearing to be very tight when installing into the head tube? I measured with calipers and the head tube is 51.70mm inside for a 1 1/2 bearing. The bike shop said that they could install the bottom bearing using a bearing press but in all the videos I've seen the bearing seems to just easily fit inside.

  • @LTPottenger
    @LTPottenger Před 3 lety

    Sooo helpful. I took two bikes apart and am trying to salavge good parts from one and suddenly realized had no idea what was what lol

  • @lazmotron
    @lazmotron Před 4 lety

    Thanks for this knowledge filled, information packed, educational video. Very interesting.

  • @jimirsmith6247
    @jimirsmith6247 Před 5 lety

    I want to upgrade the forks on an old chrome aluminum rockhopper with a threadless head set. I'm i on the right track here?

  • @jediplan1
    @jediplan1 Před rokem

    I had the same situation, very straight forward explanation.

  • @tsizzle
    @tsizzle Před 6 lety +22

    LOL, hilarious... i wonder if Chef John watches this channel??? 😂

    • @asamusicdude
      @asamusicdude Před 5 lety +1

      T Sizzle love food wishes

    • @picox8
      @picox8 Před 4 lety

      and as always... enjooooooy

  • @joel9977
    @joel9977 Před 6 lety

    forgive me if this sounds dumb-
    My headset bearings became crunchy after a while so i decided to change them today. both top and bottom bearing pretty much fused to the head tube. After perseverance i got them both out but them were both out in pieces.
    I purchased new bearings from a local bike shop and installed them.
    The top one seems a little to large as the top cover does not sit flush with the frame. The bearing also does not fit flush, should it be flush?
    Because of the tightness of the fit of the bearings i am concerned removing them will damage the new bearings installed?
    Would this headset be an alternative for me instead of them just sitting in the frame?
    How would i know if the headsets fit my frame?
    does this headset come with the bearings required?

  • @jaysondocot1870
    @jaysondocot1870 Před 4 lety

    video what I'm looking for... keep it up! more power...

  • @lambo908
    @lambo908 Před 4 lety

    Thanks John this helped a lot!

  • @alexnrsb6196
    @alexnrsb6196 Před 2 lety

    Absolutely amazing video. Thanks!

  • @jimirsmith6247
    @jimirsmith6247 Před 5 lety

    If I have a one inch threadless steer tube on an older bike is it possible to change it to 1 1/8 external threadless as long as the new steer tub e fits through the bike,?

  • @kght222
    @kght222 Před 6 lety

    my columba 26" folder has a threaded headset, it is great for being about to quickly fold the handlebars without whipping out an allen key, although that is a specific situation, but a 26 inch folder that can fit in a moderately sized trunk is useful. my x-treme x-cursion ebike would need a bungee cord to fit in a large trunk while folded, and the handlebars are worse than the larger tires =P,

  • @faysalusman
    @faysalusman Před 7 lety

    Hi, i have a steer tube with 26.8mm straight and from top to bottom. and my inner head tube diameter is 30mm. which headset do you recommend. i am modifying my mtb so trying to fit in a new fork with a new stem, handlebar etc. need a new headset.

  • @jfisher99999
    @jfisher99999 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for this video! Super helpful

  • @scottiusnevious5143
    @scottiusnevious5143 Před 4 lety

    I have a threadless stem but the bearings are that of a threaded headset. What can I do to use the external bearing kits?

  • @florinsgondea6124
    @florinsgondea6124 Před 3 lety

    Extremely informational and detailed video. Please make a video regarding the crank system. You are very knowledgeable.

  • @kopero2k504
    @kopero2k504 Před měsícem

    Thank you for sharing your wisdom with me

  • @ensignsports
    @ensignsports Před 6 lety

    Hi, the information is most useful, Thank you. Would it be possible to share the head tube diameter sheets for download for reference? Thank you once again.

  • @unvamp02
    @unvamp02 Před 6 lety

    Dude, many thanks!

  • @naujaral2131
    @naujaral2131 Před 7 lety +3

    great video, thanks for sharing :)

  • @white_shadow_123
    @white_shadow_123 Před 3 lety

    So I have semi integrated 44mm headtube with straight steertube 28.6mm. Could I somehow use tapered steertube, by changing the cups and bearings?
    I just need to find the cups that are 28.6mm/44mm for the top and 38.1mm/44mm on the bottom and it should work?

  • @newttella1043
    @newttella1043 Před rokem

    This video is a gem .

  • @300723
    @300723 Před 6 lety

    The fork bible on CZcams. Period! Thank for this video!

  • @socialfreak6900
    @socialfreak6900 Před 3 lety

    quick question:
    i have a bmx that i converted to electric and iv been wanting to swap my front threaded forks to threadless suspension forks, my current steerer tube is 1", the suspension steerer tube is 1 1/8", and the inner diameter of my bmx's headtube is roughly1 1/4" (its 32.5mm). i know the fit might be very tight but do you think its possible to put the threadless suspension forks on my bmx if i switch the headset to a 1 1/8" threadless headset? if so what parts would you recommend for me to make it work? iv seen it done before but none of the posts iv seen have mentioned how to do it

  • @lambo908
    @lambo908 Před 3 lety

    I bought a 34mm risk headset stupidly without measuring first and it's the same width as my headtube. So I would need a 30mm and a 1inch steertube or a 1/8? Still a newbie at this so any help would be much appreciated!

  • @gyulakovacs1334
    @gyulakovacs1334 Před 3 lety

    Dear JOHN, this video is very helpful , thanks a lot .

  • @piyux
    @piyux Před 3 lety

    What an impressive video, very informative, finally I have the information I need.
    Ignore those mentally challenged that always find something to criticize. This is an awesome video, period.

  • @WildernessMusic_GentleSerene

    An oh so necessary video. Thank you for making this. Sooooo...there are only 3 types of headsets for road and off-road? I thought there were many more than this? IF only 3 then I feel a lot better about my understanding. I have building up bikes from framesets for 40 years, but never messed with forks because of the tool cost, then later because of the confusion of so many headsets and head tube varieties. Hope there are only 3 :)

  • @johndebellis19
    @johndebellis19 Před 4 lety

    john - thank you for the video. I have watched your video several times and bought tow headsets that do not fit my 2015 trek 7.2 FX. Can you help me understand what headset can fit my bike? I have ordered 1 1/8" threadless twice but the bearings DO NOT fit into my steer tube. Should I be looking for bearings or a whole headset? Im ot that good at this , so can you suggest brand and part numbers also?

  • @ycls2004
    @ycls2004 Před 3 lety

    Here is an odd one.
    I got a bike made by FOCUS. The fork seemed to wiggle so I disassembled it (aluminum washers were stuck and the stem was rusty). It seems to have an Internal \ Integrated headset.
    But what is most baffling, under the bearings' cup, there was no bearing cage what so ever. The balls, 34 with some missing, are directly held by the cup and supported by the head tube.
    I haven't removed the lower bearings yet so I am not sure this is intentional.
    Often, the bearing cage inside bottom brackets falls apart and crumbles.
    Could this have happened in the headset as well ?
    Non of the videos watched on CZcams suggest there is such a design.
    Any help would be appreciated.

  • @brendaleetv
    @brendaleetv Před 2 lety

    I have a Motobecane Gravel x3 and it has caged bearings, now my friend wants to change it to external pressed bearings, for his new carbon fibre fork steerer of 1 1/8". But his measures top headset I.D. 41mm and O.D 46.8mm and cant find anything that will fit that bike. Any suggestions?

  • @MikeyBrown99
    @MikeyBrown99 Před 7 lety +8

    Brother man I was racking my brain on how to order my next headset and didn't wan't to make a mistake as I live in the Caribbean. Let me just tell you that this is one of the more informative videos about headsets on CZcams. I could be wrong but you helped me a lot.
    Also, do you have a site or link I could possibly integrated headsets?

    • @johnthebikeguy
      @johnthebikeguy  Před 7 lety +2

      Thanks! I try to be thorough... I've been doing this for years for our online business. I've seen all the weird varieties and come up with fool proof methods on solving issues for myself.

    • @MikeyBrown99
      @MikeyBrown99 Před 7 lety

      Do you have any sites where I could get integrated headsets? I got a full suspension MTB which I am currently taking apart to rebuild and i need a site to fulfill my needs.

    • @johnthebikeguy
      @johnthebikeguy  Před 6 lety

      Xion I I don’t have a link. Integrated headsets are limited, and not many exist.

    • @tracimckinney9736
      @tracimckinney9736 Před 5 lety

      again great info and helped me a ton Guy

  • @seanhill7942
    @seanhill7942 Před 3 lety

    Thanks John. Great video. I'm trying to adapt a 11/8 steerer to a giant overdrive head tube which is a 47mm lower diameter. I've got an Acros 33/47 bearing but the adapter ring won't go all the way down the steerer to fit onto the fork. Should I give it a tap to force it into place? Thanks if youre still following this thread.

  • @sebastianalmlof404
    @sebastianalmlof404 Před 7 lety

    GREAT video!

  • @JFWILSON220
    @JFWILSON220 Před rokem

    Hi John, thank you for this video, i have an alloy dedacciai frame that i won on ebay without any headset or forks, i tried the integrated bearing races from a new set, (the bearings measure 7mm in depth); and it fits the bottom head tube fine but the top of the head tube is shallower and the bearing race sticks above headtube approx 1.5mm...is this normal?..not sure if its suppose to be like that and it perhaps originally had a top cup with a cowling that covered it....all the headsets i've seen so far seem to have top cup race covers that are flat like casino chips, so the race is seen. The frame's from about 2010 so hoping the headset is not obsolete, do you know of frames that have a deeper bottom bearing seat than the top bearing seat?
    Any help appreciated, cheers Jo

  • @coevad3961
    @coevad3961 Před 3 měsíci

    Great video. Really helped a lot. Thank you!

  • @canadalife3983
    @canadalife3983 Před 4 lety

    If you have a book/ blog/ photoalbum on all your tips and tricks where can I find it? Please let me know :)

  • @cristibaluta
    @cristibaluta Před 3 lety

    Thank you for this, now i know what i need to buy.

  • @jackand100others3
    @jackand100others3 Před 4 lety

    I need help guys so a 1 inch 36*x 45* seal bearing is it the same size as a 1 1/8 36* x 45* seal bearing? Bc I been noticing that an external headset with seal bearing whether it's a 1in or 1 1/8in both the cups are the same size

  • @WarpigGunsout
    @WarpigGunsout Před 6 lety +107

    why did you modified your voice?, feel like I'm watching a video on how to make drugs. I liked the video

    • @johnthebikeguy
      @johnthebikeguy  Před 6 lety +31

      Aarón because I can.

    • @antdx316
      @antdx316 Před 5 lety +3

      @@johnthebikeguy I thought the voice was real. Do you wish your voice was like that naturally or you did it to be funny and it's worse?

    • @ussmillerco
      @ussmillerco Před 4 lety +6

      The voice is one thing, the music makes me depressed and want to end it all.....but I’m interested in the headset types so There is my reason to live

    • @tomcatoda2652
      @tomcatoda2652 Před 4 lety +2

      @@johnthebikeguy because IM BATMAN!

    • @Joltinjess5
      @Joltinjess5 Před 3 lety +1

      "It uses the lotion or it gets the hose again!"

  • @ebonymochi1790
    @ebonymochi1790 Před 2 lety

    This was very helpful because I ordered a bike for a gift from amazon and the headset and steering wasn't connecting. Now I understand why and what type of headset. It's a thread-less headset.

  • @drewty9082
    @drewty9082 Před 4 lety

    I have a Rockshox Judy Silver TK 120mm travel speed.. I am having trouble finding a headset size that will fit my fork. please let me know what size should I get. Thanks in advance! cheers

  • @barrettmacaulay
    @barrettmacaulay Před 5 lety

    Thanks this was very helpful.

  • @melee401
    @melee401 Před 4 lety

    I have a 11/8" threaded set on my motorbike. What I HATE are the caged bearings, so I hand pack mine. No, not as weatherproof as many others but grease is cheap enough. Valvoline synthetic there always.

  • @birthaappleshirt7404
    @birthaappleshirt7404 Před 3 lety

    I know my bike has a 1 1/8 straight steerer fork, so could I just buy any 1 1/8 headset kit and not have to measure anything?

  • @AncientGreek
    @AncientGreek Před 5 lety

    How do I know which cup/bearing goes on top and which one goes on the bottom?

  • @holirumicsfriend
    @holirumicsfriend Před 2 lety

    Excellent video! Great!!!

  • @thomas930409
    @thomas930409 Před 3 lety

    This was helpful, thank you!

  • @samfree8907
    @samfree8907 Před 3 lety

    Well explained! I was actually looking for an outer headset for a gravel bike. Can you recommend any (Mid/high priced) brands I can buy online?

    • @samfree8907
      @samfree8907 Před 3 lety

      I mean Chris King costs start from 170€ is it worth it to spend that much?

  • @6ty8stang
    @6ty8stang Před 5 lety

    What Raceface headset was that on the first bike

  • @vintagerider4301
    @vintagerider4301 Před 6 lety +19

    A tutorial by Darth Vador

    • @johnthebikeguy
      @johnthebikeguy  Před 6 lety +4

      Vintage Rider embrace the power of the dark side.

  • @chrisdarke
    @chrisdarke Před 4 lety

    It seems you missed out the Diatech ABN-SBN headset which is a threadless headset without spangled nut.. got one on my Cannondale '97 F300... kinda weird

  • @Alexgambino
    @Alexgambino Před 3 lety

    If it’s a zycle prime what’s the size headset for it