innicycle 1" Threaded to 1 1/8" Threadless Conversion Headset Full Installation: www.innicycle.com

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  • čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
  • Americas and Europe: www.innicycle.com
    SE Asia and Australia: www.forkmods.com
    Rob Garrison, owner of Garrison's Cyclery in Wilmington, DE, installs the innicycle Threadless Conversion Headset on his De Rosa as part of a restomod build of this classic road frameset.
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Komentáře • 265

  • @robertschlumpberger22
    @robertschlumpberger22 Před 3 lety +23

    This is by far the nicest way to convert a 1 inch threaded fork to a 1 1/8 inch threadless configuration. Excellent piece of engineering and very well executed.

  • @1972adrianm
    @1972adrianm Před 11 měsíci +9

    Nice work! It’s cool to see a professional and meticulous bike mechanic work.

  • @davidfranklinv2860
    @davidfranklinv2860 Před 3 lety +19

    only 850 views and 22 likes?? this video is great! deserves way more views. well done, good quality!

    • @deanosaur808
      @deanosaur808 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Almost 100k now! Just needed time to reach an audience 🥳

  • @fulljackrackoboe
    @fulljackrackoboe Před 3 lety +12

    Wow, that mechanism is awesome and so well worth it to buy! And you have explained it all very well. Thank you for sharing.

  • @pooksthepossum
    @pooksthepossum Před 2 lety +7

    Yup this was the video I was looking for! Extremely helpful for us to update our older bikes. Thanks for the instructions and showing this product.

  • @florinsgondea6124
    @florinsgondea6124 Před 3 lety +6

    Excellent presentation. Very detailed. Usually I don't like any talking, but this one was useful. Thank you. Job well done.

  • @charliecook7157
    @charliecook7157 Před 2 lety +8

    These are truly excellent instructions, so clear and so pro!

    • @kirstenspencer3630
      @kirstenspencer3630 Před rokem +2

      Righty tighty, torque to no more than 15 Newton meters. Good to go.......

  • @tzed2509
    @tzed2509 Před 3 lety +6

    Excellent video, very clear instructions with pro tips and tricks. Thanks!

  • @laszlobacs9347
    @laszlobacs9347 Před 2 lety +4

    This is exactly what I was looking for. Excellent work. Thanks for sharing.

  • @cyclesrp2673
    @cyclesrp2673 Před 3 lety +3

    Great Video, minimal words, well thought out structure to your post. I am in the process of going thread-less on a 70's Tommasini road bike. Very helpful!!!!!

  • @tatangsm09
    @tatangsm09 Před 4 měsíci

    Clear tutorial installation from threaded 25.4 stem to threadless 28.6 adaptor stem. Nice and easy to do so. Thanks.

  • @harigunawan8889
    @harigunawan8889 Před 2 lety

    And what I did last month is insert a new pipe which makes my fork heavier than before. I definitely learned something new, thanks!

  • @johnrozee2648
    @johnrozee2648 Před 3 lety +3

    This is a lovely bit of kit Joe! I'll be wanting one in the UK when i start restoration of my Pinarello over the winter.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      Thanks, John! Looking forward to seeing that build!

  • @jdillon8360
    @jdillon8360 Před 2 lety

    Great product and good instructions. Cheers from Australia.

  • @pa86_
    @pa86_ Před 3 lety +4

    Already gave up on threadless stems as most adapters look like crap. Great item and explanation!

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +1

      I was ready to give up, too. Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @AmazingChinaToday
    @AmazingChinaToday Před 5 měsíci

    This is an elegant solution. If you make the exact product in 4130 chromoly steel, instead of aluminum, it should be suitable for older BMX bikes, or any other bike needing maximum durability.

  • @1dd434
    @1dd434 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video, slick design, easy to understand.

  • @boofuls
    @boofuls Před 3 lety +6

    Excellently explained video 👍I watched it and it wasnt even the video I wanted 😂👍

  • @lion39
    @lion39 Před 3 lety +2

    Excellent tutorial! Thank you.

  • @Joooooooooolz
    @Joooooooooolz Před 4 lety +3

    Great detailed video. Thank you!

  • @simonbailey6592
    @simonbailey6592 Před 2 lety

    Fantastic. Finally a solution to making my master look good with modern kit. Ordering. Looks a doddle to install. I love well designed solutions like this.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 2 lety +1

      Cheers, Simon! If you do have any questions during the installation process, feel free to contact me at joe@jjpne.com

    • @gaetano2435
      @gaetano2435 Před rokem

      @@JJPELLC where can i buy it?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před rokem

      www.innicycle.com or www.forkmods.com for Australia and SE Asia. If in the UK let me know and I’ll send you contact info for our new reseller there.

  • @rajeshpodhanandh2348
    @rajeshpodhanandh2348 Před 3 lety

    Was looking for this for my old school MTB. Many Thanks

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      Nice! Which bike and what else do you have planned for it?

    • @rajeshpodhanandh2348
      @rajeshpodhanandh2348 Před 3 lety +1

      @@JJPELLC I have my 20 year old MTB. It's has a steel frame, 26" wheels and a rigid fork. Planning to upsize the tyres, suspension fork, thread less headset, changing pedals, changing brakes, installing a gear set and disk brakes. Probably may go for a paint if required. I don't have a workshop so have to manage doing all at home with what tools I have.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +2

      @@rajeshpodhanandh2348 It is fairly easy to improvise most tools for installing a new headset. With the innicycle, just be sure to use an appropriate size tool for pressing on the crown race otherwise you risk damaging the dust seal groove. A 26-28mm hole drilled in a wood block plus a piece of tubing long enough to reach above the steerer tube will do just fine.

    • @rajeshpodhanandh2348
      @rajeshpodhanandh2348 Před 3 lety

      @@JJPELLC Thanks for your guidance. Really Appreciated!

  • @ericsondmd
    @ericsondmd Před 3 lety +2

    Fantastic video. Subscribed

  • @HawkGuy82
    @HawkGuy82 Před 3 lety

    Superb quality video!

  • @adamhaiqal9364
    @adamhaiqal9364 Před 2 lety

    you deserve more subs man.. great video

  • @borisfohrman3133
    @borisfohrman3133 Před 3 lety

    Just wanted to add my 2c about Gravel bike noise. I traveled all over Western Europe on a PX-10 Peugeot WITH tubulars , stumbled on it in a small French town cycle store, the bike looked so beautiful and lonely with Stronglight parts and Mafac center pulls ,Hutchison tubulars. French country roads are even tough for some cars, I survived, had a great culinary adventure, and a Great French 100% bike. Riding skills mater MBT jumps not required.

  • @CHAMELEON111
    @CHAMELEON111 Před rokem

    Hi just checking out the fork stem adapter, i do like the design replacing the threaded nut and cup top section. . Ive got a version which you keep the top threaded nut ect and like yours expands in the steerer to secure it. Nice explaining to those who don't know. Cheers Scott

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před rokem +1

      Hey Scott, thanks for checking out the video. If you have any questions about the innicycle design or installation I am happy to answer them.

  • @GeneralJoshua
    @GeneralJoshua Před 3 lety +1

    Very good conversion it will be great for old school BMX if they have one.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      I’m happy to make that happen if you are willing to preorder. Contact me at joe@jjpne.com

  • @londonpickering8675
    @londonpickering8675 Před rokem

    That is slick! Thanks for posting this vid!

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před rokem

      Thanks for checking it out!

  • @erasmosilva3424
    @erasmosilva3424 Před 2 lety

    Belas ferramentas!!!

  • @recyclespinning9839
    @recyclespinning9839 Před 3 lety +3

    I actually like the old design. The nut is what locks your adjustment secure on the old design . The threadless rely on the stem to lock your adjustment.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +3

      Innicycle is a hybrid of sorts. The threaded nut is eliminated but you still have a threaded upper race. The bearing preload is locked by the quill because the quill and upper race are fixed together. The threaded upper race carries all of the bearing preload axial load just like it does on a standard threaded headset. The threadless stem plays no role in carrying the bearing preload, same as with a typical threadless adapter. Happy to share more details if you are interested.

  • @borisfohrman3133
    @borisfohrman3133 Před 3 lety +1

    Video is excellent

  • @salskars6637
    @salskars6637 Před 9 měsíci

    Well done. TY

  • @cesarsoto852
    @cesarsoto852 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice job !

  • @12.cabilteslaurisses.31
    @12.cabilteslaurisses.31 Před 3 lety +1

    Well done

  • @justinkyle5025
    @justinkyle5025 Před 2 lety +1

    My crown race puller:
    A solid wall behind my work bench
    Laying the steerer tube up against said wall and taking a flat head screw driver as a punch until it becomes loose 😂

  • @docfloc
    @docfloc Před 3 lety

    Great stuff.

  • @juanpablocastillolanderos9648

    Extremely nice job, do you sell or have the blue prints. I would like to to make one for my old bike. Thanks a lot

  • @AmazingChinaToday
    @AmazingChinaToday Před rokem

    If you hold the front wheel between your legs, and try to rotate the handlebars and stem, are you able to rotate them?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před rokem

      Properly tightened, no, the handlebars should not rotate. Does that answer your question?

    • @AmazingChinaToday
      @AmazingChinaToday Před rokem

      @@JJPELLC Yes, thanks! Currently I can turn my handlers with a quill stem tightened almost to the point of stripping the bolt.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před rokem +1

      There are a lot of possible causes. An innicycle may solve the issue, or it may not, depending on what is going on. The most common cause of your scenario is that the quill is inserted too far into the fork placing the wedge in a butted portion of the tube. If that could be the case on yours, try raising the stem 10-20mm and see if that helps.

  • @paulsbailey
    @paulsbailey Před rokem

    Nice headset.

  • @namewastaken2
    @namewastaken2 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks, I'm going to do this to my old Schwinn.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 2 lety

      How old of a Schwinn? Some of the real old ones used a smaller diameter quill than the standard innicycle. This can be accommodated but will be a special order.

    • @marsmars8857
      @marsmars8857 Před rokem

      @@JJPELLC there is someone on ebay selling machined 1 inch threaded headset conversion to 1 1/8 threadless for vintage schwinn.. I wonder how they do it..

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před rokem

      Link? Innicycle now offers a Schwinn/BMX option as a standard. Schwinn headtubes are big enough to fit a 1 1/8” threadless fork, though, at 32.5mm. They may simply be modifying standard threadless headsets by cutting down the press-fit portion to that size.

    • @marsmars8857
      @marsmars8857 Před rokem

      @@JJPELLC sounds logical 👍

  • @brazzerssoraka6974
    @brazzerssoraka6974 Před 7 měsíci

    Hello! Love that this product exists. I'm building up an old Sears Spaceliner for my mother. Likely would be purchasing the BMX version. We love the idea of changing the top stem cap for aesthetic purposes. Is this possible with this conversion? Thank you

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 7 měsíci

      While you are not able to change the original top cap, the latest Schwinn headsets allow you to add on a top cap of your choice for aesthetic purposes. Reach out to joe@synamas.com for more details. The BMX headset is designed to allow routing the front brake cable through the headset. You could use it but I don’t think that’s the result you are after.

  • @PaulLangmead
    @PaulLangmead Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you for all the metric measurements! Is there a dealer for this product in Europe? I haven't been able to find anything so far.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +3

      I’ve been designing in metric for 20+ years! Sadly no distributors in Europe yet. But I am happy to ship overseas.

    • @robertschlumpberger22
      @robertschlumpberger22 Před 3 lety

      Paul, I found it in Australia.

  • @deanosaur808
    @deanosaur808 Před 11 měsíci

    I don't have any of these special tools 😱 Just used a big screwdriver, hammer, piece of tube, and a block of wood 😅
    The bike survived!

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 10 měsíci

      The right tools just make sure the job gets done properly every time. And it sure helps to be seen using those tools when a customer pops in to check on their bike 😀

  • @michaelneutert2713
    @michaelneutert2713 Před 3 lety

    Very nice. I have 2 questions, spare bearings are on the shop or only full set? And how much cost the head set with delivering to the czech republic thank you

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +1

      The bearings used are a very common size for which I can provide specs. If you are concerned about replacements, make a note on your order and I’ll arrange for a spare set. www.innicycle.com

  • @iamdjsluggo
    @iamdjsluggo Před 3 lety +1

    Who makes the adaptor and where can I get one?!
    Excellent video. Subbed!

    • @nonym7596
      @nonym7596 Před 3 lety

      Innicycles, its 125$ though

  • @white_truck3820
    @white_truck3820 Před 3 dny

    Is there a minimum spec for the amount of threads on the fork steerer? My work only has about 19mm of threads. Also, my fork has an aluminum steerer. Is this acceptable?

  • @JJPELLC
    @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +3

    Currently estimated that by September 2020, innicycle headsets will again be readily available in both colors. Get those restomod builds planned!

    • @BikesNotDrugs
      @BikesNotDrugs Před 3 lety

      Are you taking preorders for them?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +1

      @@BikesNotDrugs Yes, send me an email at joe@jjpne.com and I’ll get you set up.

    • @jeralynnavia6333
      @jeralynnavia6333 Před 3 lety

      @@JJPELLC is this available in the philippines

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +1

      @@jeralynnavia6333 I can ship anywhere in the world. I have no direct distributor in the Philippines, though. Working on getting distribution out of Australia and should have that worked out in the coming months.

    • @philippreu7583
      @philippreu7583 Před 3 lety

      I am interested. Is there stock available in silver?

  • @MarshWaha
    @MarshWaha Před 2 lety

    If only this product wasn’t so expensive, but then that money may be worth it maybe.

  • @IceRhino44
    @IceRhino44 Před 2 lety

    Garrison cycles? I was just there tonight at the new loaction in Yorklynn!

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 2 lety +1

      Yup! This video was shot at the Greenville location. The new shop is NICE!

  • @tongalizia3175
    @tongalizia3175 Před 2 měsíci

    Derosa customer since 1972 and this the best damn conversion I’ve seen. What’s the name of the company that produced the stem???

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 2 měsíci

      The product featured in the video is the innicycle threadless conversion headset. Visit www.innicycle.com to order one!

  • @robinoconnor1203
    @robinoconnor1203 Před 3 lety

    I did a similar conversion recently, not with the kit you used as I have never seen that before. I converted a Principia frame with a 1 inch steerer tube to fit carbon forks. The new headset an M Part kit that I ordered, the cups both top and bottom were a little over 1 mm too small, hence were a very loose fit, I tried another different make kit that was the same. I had to shim the cups to make them a secure fit, something I am still unhappy about. Is there more than one bearing cup size for 1 inch steerer tubes? my local bike shops and a cycling forum have come up blank.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      To be honest, it sounds like you have a frame designed for a 1 1/8” fork. What is the ID of the headtube? If intended for a 1” fork, it should be 30-30.2mm.

  • @seitenryu6844
    @seitenryu6844 Před 8 měsíci

    One aspect which is both a benefit and potential safety issue, is that the stem is not retained by a top cap. For some, that's an advantage when traveling(no headset adjustment to make, only loosen stem bolts to remove), but if the bolts come loose while riding, your bars come right off. I suppose it's similar in safety to a quill stem though. Did you use a conical wedge to reduce the possibility of forces potentially loosening the adjustment? I'd expected to see an angled wedge.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 8 měsíci

      Threadless stems were never designed to be retained by the top cap. The top cap is strictly for setting preload on the bearings and would be an unnecessary feature for an innicycle (though you can still add one for aesthetic purposes). The conical wedge is used to help keep the quill portion concentric with the fork’s steerer tube and ensure smooth bearing rotation. There must necessarily be some gap between the two parts and an angled wedge forces the quill all the way to one side unlike the cone.

  • @cedrickcaceres9761
    @cedrickcaceres9761 Před rokem

    May we know the name of that sealed bearing headset& extension that you used?, I wonder if there's any available one in our country , your video was so great and helpful btw

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před rokem

      Glad you enjoyed the video! It is an innicycle headset available at www.innicycle.com and shipped worldwide.

  • @JJPELLC
    @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

    Black headsets are shipping again with silver available, too. $125 plus applicable shipping. Visit www.innicycle.com to order.

  • @ajg52100
    @ajg52100 Před 7 měsíci

    Man , I wish they made this for 1 1/8 threaded forks.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 7 měsíci

      Well, we just happen to be working on exactly that! Contact me at joe@synamas.com for more info about how and when you can get your hands on one.

  • @Vip-db2mq
    @Vip-db2mq Před 3 lety +1

    top top top ótima solução dando assim opção pra quem queira usar o haed set em garfo stande mantendo o garfo original parabéns meu amigo onde consigo esse adaptador ? ganhou mais um inscrito gosto de mais desse videos das nossas queridas vintage...

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +1

      Contact me at joe@jjpne.com or visit www.forkmods.com (best for SE Asia/Australia customers)

    • @joaobikes
      @joaobikes Před 2 lety

      Achei surreal essa invenção. A única possibilidade de usar um garfo de rosca standard com caixa de direção aheadset era pela ideia do Pedaleria, de usar um tubo de alumínio (tarugo) dentro do canote do garfo (o Edu Capivara fez isso quando transformou a Caloi 10 em gravel). Mas o canal Pedaleria não se deu ao trabalho de informar o diâmetro exato para os inscritos adotar o mesmo procedimento. Ou seja, a gente acaba tendo que medir e comprar no erro/acerto, até funcionar. Vou procurar, agora, esse adaptador do vídeo, que achei bem legal também, e mais seguro inclusive.

  • @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess

    It's so complicated to remove the parts from these threaded bikes with quills, requires special tools also... That sucks!

  • @shamgardeandeansandalo4699

    wowww..been looking for this kit,,,what do you exactly call that conversion adapter? is it branded, which brand...hope I can find that here in the Philippines

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      Glad you like it! It’s an innicycle threadless conversion headset. You can purchase direct from me (designer and manufacturer) or from Forkmods.com (based in Australia).

  • @shhhdontshout
    @shhhdontshout Před 3 lety +2

    Does it meant, from 1" steer tube fork, now this vintage bike can use 1-1/8" steer tube fork?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +2

      The innicycle headset is for those who want to keep their original threaded fork but use it with 1 1/8” threadless stems, and without all the compromises of a typical threadless adapter.

  • @rpersaud562
    @rpersaud562 Před rokem +2

    i really love this design and the finish on this but i am struggling with the price tag of $140 when comparable adaptors sell for 20$, like the one from "Profile Designs". I really wanted to buy this but couldn't justify the price.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před rokem

      I can't help it. Every time I open YT Studio I see this comment... I must respond :-) I'll keep it short and sweet: Yes, there are $20 threadless adapters available. No, they are not 'comparable' to an innicycle headset.

  • @rickmancini772
    @rickmancini772 Před 3 lety

    Thx for the video. Does the stem cap sit over the stem, as in a conventional thread less system?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      No, much like a typical threadless adapter, the cap is there for tightening the quill into the steerer only and is not used for applying downward pressure on the stem. The cap is the same diameter as the steerer portion of the headset (1 1/8"). The steerer portion can be trimmed such that the cap is flush with the top of the stem like this: flic.kr/p/26YZ1SE

    • @rickmancini772
      @rickmancini772 Před 3 lety

      @@JJPELLC thx Joe - no concerns about using the stem bolts only to secure the stem?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +1

      @@rickmancini772 Nope. Plenty of other designs doing the same thing (threadless adapters, steerer tube extenders for threadless). In a typical threadless system, the stem's clamp bolts do all the work of both keeping the bearings preloaded and holding the stem to the steerer. A true threadless top cap is only necessary for preloading the bearings prior to tightening the stem's clamp bolts. After that it can be removed without affecting anything.

    • @rickmancini772
      @rickmancini772 Před 3 lety

      @@JJPELLC thanks!

  • @cory4152
    @cory4152 Před rokem

    What is the difference? This is so you can upgrade handle bars? I am looking to put 1 1/8" forks into a 1" steering tube is that possible?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před rokem +1

      1 1/8” forks in a 1” frame is generally impossible with a few specific exceptions but still requiring some custom work. The innicycle lets you retain your original fork while seamlessly converting to a 1 1/8” threadless stem (the most common option these days).

  • @brianparadillo398
    @brianparadillo398 Před 5 měsíci

    excellent video, and also where can i find that headset???
    u guys have link to that product online???

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Glad you like it! Headsets are available for purchase at www.innicycle.com

    • @brianparadillo398
      @brianparadillo398 Před 5 měsíci

      THANK YOU VERY MUCH @@JJPELLC

  • @gileshectorytom9932
    @gileshectorytom9932 Před 3 lety

    Can I apply stem adapter on that?

  • @johnhawkins1518
    @johnhawkins1518 Před 3 lety +1

    Where can I find that adapter you used that attaches to the steerer tube??

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +1

      Email me at joe@jjpne.com or visit www.forkmods.com

  • @magicdog5623
    @magicdog5623 Před 9 měsíci

    Hi there, what headset did you use? Am I right in thinking your fork steerer tube has D. of 25.4 mm?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 9 měsíci

      Fork steerer tube is 1” threaded (25.4 mm ). An innicycle (www.innicycle.com) headset was used to convert it to 1 1/8” threadless.

    • @magicdog5623
      @magicdog5623 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@JJPELLC I managed to see the logo when you were fitting it. Looks a great 2 for 1 component. Unfortunately I don't see any available in the uk

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 9 měsíci

      We ship to the UK for a flat fee of $25 per order.

  • @upward_onward
    @upward_onward Před 3 lety

    So the cup that is being installed in the Headtube is 1 1/8 inches ?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      No, everything related to the fork, the headset cups, and the bearings is 1" (necessitated by the 1" headtube). The extended steerer at the top is 1 1/8", though.

  • @iSOLATEDQ
    @iSOLATEDQ Před 10 měsíci

    Is there a way to convert threadless to threaded stem? Do you need a threaded fork?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yes, the easiest way to achieve using a quill stem on a bike is to start with a threaded fork. I am sure that with enough effort you could make it work with just about any fork but I’ll leave that to your imagination.

  • @rindosironi8118
    @rindosironi8118 Před 3 lety

    I don't know where to get the innicycle headset but this kind of video is what I am looking for to help with my chomoly steel Bianchi that I am restoring and upgrading. What are the compromises of the typical threadless adapter?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      Hi Rindo, basic threadless adapters compromise on stiffness, weight, and aesthetics compared to an innicycle headset. They are cheap and easy to install but that’s where the plusses end, in my opinion.

    • @ronmatthews1738
      @ronmatthews1738 Před 3 lety

      @@JJPELLC Functionally this conversion works the same as a threadless adapter regardless of the cost and time incurred in changing the headset.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      @@ronmatthews1738 Well, you have pointed out an obvious downside: that one needs to change the headset to use it. Relative to the process of a full rebuild of a vintage bike, the extra time commitment is fairly minimal, though. As far as ‘functionally the same’, I can only agree that you are correct, as correct as you’d be saying the same thing about Claris and Dura Ace.

    • @ronmatthews1738
      @ronmatthews1738 Před 3 lety

      @@JJPELLC Given that this conversion is twice the cost of a Chris King headset I would hope it is of good quality. However, if the original headset is good quality I would find it hard to justify the huge cost of this conversion over a ten dollar adapter.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      @@ronmatthews1738 How much do you think an innicycle headset costs? There’s seems to be some misunderstanding.

  • @therepresentative1619
    @therepresentative1619 Před 3 lety

    Do they make a conversion for old school bmx?Like 80's gt,haro,hutch....?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      All that it would require is special cups to fit the oversized headtubes of BMX frames. Are you interested in such a setup to the point that you’d preorder? I can make it happen if you are.

  • @commondominator4413
    @commondominator4413 Před 2 lety

    Would this work on a threaded fork with an inner fork measurement of 21.1mm? Is this only for 22.2mm?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 2 lety +1

      Please contact me at joe@jjpne.com. The short answer is 'yes' a 21.1mm fork can be accommodated.

  • @christopherowens2635
    @christopherowens2635 Před rokem

    Is this adapter only works on threaded forks? I have 1-1/8 forks that are not threaded. Any suggestions?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před rokem

      What are you trying to accomplish? The innicycle headset is designed to adapt 1 1/8” threadless stems to 1” threaded forks. If you have a 1 1/8” threadless fork you have no need for any sort of conversion like this.

  • @stevek731
    @stevek731 Před 3 lety

    Why do I want to do this? I thought I wanted to replace the fork with a carbon fork with a 1" steering tube? Is it just to be able to use a modern stem and handlebars?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      Innicycle headsets are for those who want to use a threadless stem with their (typically) original threaded fork but want better aesthetics and performance (stiffness, light weight) than a standard threadless adapter. Perhaps also for when someone doesn’t necessarily want a threadless stem but recognizes that the 31.8mm quill stems are either lacking in options, lacking in aesthetics, or very expensive for what you are getting. There are other minor benefits like allowing a lower handlebar position than any other option and offering a cartridge bearing headset as part of the package.

  • @ogamogam6418
    @ogamogam6418 Před 3 lety

    Bro my steer tube is 8 inch while the steer fork is 7inch I can't lock it with the threaded headset any help here

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      Can you get more exact measurements? The shortest fork to headtube difference I typically recommend is 27mm. 25mm (1 inch) is under that so I’d say no if that is the case.

  • @TrickMini
    @TrickMini Před 2 lety

    1 1/8" Threadless Headset X 32.5mm is there such a thing out there?

  • @singletona082
    @singletona082 Před 3 lety +1

    What makes this product more desirable than the cheapie quill to threadless converters? I personally have a walmart bike who's frame I love and plan to best the daylights out of til I replace those with better.
    For me the fact the thing is quill and 27.5 concerns me as 'how the hell am I gonna replace the fork on this thing?'

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +1

      The innicycle is for those who want the best looking, lightest, and stiffest way to use a threadless stem with a threaded fork. I have no experience with installing one on a Walmart bike so if you plan to purchase one please take measurements with calipers of the relevant areas (headtube inner diameter, quill diameter, crown race diameter, steerer tube and head tube length) to confirm compatibility.

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 Před 3 lety

      @@JJPELLC oh I have no doubt yours is the better product. I apologize if I came off as dismissive. I am simply trying to figure out best options and 'wjy this or that'
      The real trick is going to find a one inch fork to replace the factory fork.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +1

      @@singletona082 I’m not sure this is the product for you. You mention ‘27.5’. Where are you measuring that diameter? As for finding a 1” replacement fork, the idea with this conversion headset is to allow an original fork (typically matched to the frame in geometry and paint) to continue to be used. When replacement fork is a must, there are more options especially if the end goal is using a threadless stem.

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 Před 3 lety

      @@JJPELLC I'm just thinking ahead to 'when the current parts break's is all. Threadless headsets are more common and give better sizig and positioning options than quill.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +1

      @@singletona082 Just to be clear, this isn’t a threadless headset. It won’t fit a threadless fork. If you were to be replacing a fork and wanting a threadless stem, you would be best served by buying a threadless fork. If you found the perfect threaded fork but wanted a threadless stem, an innicycle headset could be for you.

  • @bandguy360
    @bandguy360 Před rokem

    So you dont need any existing original parts ie crown race, cups etc to use this kit?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před rokem

      Correct, it comes with everything you need to use a threadless stem with your choice of frame and fork. We even have a French version now with M25x1mm threads, 22.0mm quill, and a specially sized crown race.

    • @bandguy360
      @bandguy360 Před rokem

      @@JJPELLC thanks so much for your response, I am new to the vintage road world and am getting a little overwhelmed builing an early 80s peugeot. Which kit should I buy

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před rokem

      You very likely need the French version given the age and manufacturer. If you have calipers to measure that will tell you for sure. All you really need to check is the steerer tube outer diameter: 25mm = French, 25.4mm = ISO

    • @bandguy360
      @bandguy360 Před rokem +1

      @@JJPELLC thank you sooo much!

  • @8draco8
    @8draco8 Před rokem +2

    The biggest issue I see is the top cup. Top cup should be designed the other way around because in this case it makes extremely easy for water to get into the bearings.
    Apart from that this conversion is pointless especially for $140. This beautifully engineered and very expensive does the same what $10-$20 threadless converter from Amazon does. I ride 90s MTBs with such converters, sometimes doing stupid things on single tracks and I never had it fail on me, and that's for 1/10th of price of this kit.
    IMHO if you need the looks go for it but if you only want to put 1 1/8" threadless stem on your old bike, just buy simple adapter, it does the same thing.

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před rokem +2

      The top cup features a tortuous path design plus both an inner dust seal and sealed cartridge bearings. That’s not to say water can’t get in but it will be anything but ‘extremely easy’.
      For $125 at www.innicycle.com you get a threadless setup with unrivaled looks, low weight, and robustness plus a fresh, modern headset. It isn’t for every build but there’s no comparable product on the market.

  • @MasDito
    @MasDito Před 3 lety

    i think convert 1" threaded headset to 1 1/8 threadless headset, evidently convert 1" threaded to 1" threadless but add some customize
    usually, i add same size pipe to the steerer fork, so it longer than before, and i install headset 1" threadless too, and install stem oversize but add a converter ( some iron plat ) so stem can fit in the steerer fork

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      Sounds like a much more involved conversion! With an innicycle headset you can always remove it and go back to a quill stem if you ever so desired.

    • @MasDito
      @MasDito Před 3 lety

      @@JJPELLC oh yes, good idea.. bu that conversion kit, there is no here in Indonesia..

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      I can ship them internationally. Contact me at joe@jjpne.com if you are interested in purchasing one.

  • @garytragura7232
    @garytragura7232 Před 3 lety +1

    where do i get Headset Conversion like that ??
    -Philippines

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      www.forkmods.com is your best option. I can fulfill from the USA as well but transit time will be far longer. Email joe@jjpne.com if you want to discuss further

  • @socialfreak6900
    @socialfreak6900 Před 3 lety

    will this work for a headtube that is 32.5mm in diameter?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      In about two weeks it will (BMX-size cups are in process as we speak). Black only for now. Contact me at joe@jjpne.com and I can give you more details.

  • @johnramiagui1245
    @johnramiagui1245 Před 4 měsíci

    Where are can I found this product? Who’s the manufacturers?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 4 měsíci

      The headset is available at www.innicycle.com

  • @nmunthe
    @nmunthe Před 2 lety

    Hi Rob, Can i know link to buy that adaptor? Regards

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 2 lety

      www.innicycle.com for Americas and Europe. www.forkmods.com for SE Asia/Australia.

  • @benjaminborstad3064
    @benjaminborstad3064 Před 2 lety +1

    Would this work on a French threaded fork?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 2 lety

      French innicycle conversions are currently in production. Please contact me at joe@jjpne.com if you’d like more details or want to preorder. Silver (and a few black) headsets will be available in about 4 weeks.

  • @beardymike77
    @beardymike77 Před 3 lety

    Is there a version suitable for old 1 1/8th threaded forks on old MTB's? Would be great for gravel conversions!

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      This has come up in the past and is something I'd consider if there was enough interest. In order to achieve the same threadless look like the current unit it would require a 1 1/4" threadless stem, though. That plus the availability of 1 1/8" threadless forks makes me feel like interest would be low. But I'm happy to be wrong!

    • @beardymike77
      @beardymike77 Před 3 lety

      @@JJPELLC That's a bummer - I thought you might say that! Might be worth looking at how you could arrange the system? There's an absolute tonne of old Mtb's out there begging to be made into good gravel bikes!

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      @@beardymike77 With my focus always on the road side of things, perhaps I've ignored a major market on the MTB side. Which major brands of mid to high-end MTBs used 1 1/8" threaded forks?

    • @beardymike77
      @beardymike77 Před 3 lety

      @@JJPELLC All of them at one point! Marin, Gary Fischer, Trek, Specialised, GT, literally most of them. I think the main one bucking the trend was 'Dale, because they always do their own thing. For people wanting to update their old bikes, the issue is that most stems for MTB's are now threadless and most bars are 31.8 clamp... most quill stems have small clamps and do not have a removable faceplate making it not entirely obvious that even a pair of humble riser bars will fit a stem without levering the clamp open with a prybar. All thats available is quill converters which look horrible... If you could manage to make a converter for 1 1/8" forks (not sure what the quill dia would be? 28mm something?) with a 1 1/8th extension out the top you'd be onto a winner...

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      @@beardymike77 Maintaining the 1 1/8" extension is the issue. In order to create a headset that works like the original innicycle, I need to thread over the fork but still maintain that as usable clamping space for the stem. In threading over a 1 1/8" fork it is geometrically-impossible to maintain a 1 1/8" clamp diameter. Using a 1 1/4" clamp diameter stem solves the problem but are customers going to accept that? Your thoughts? They are available for a reasonable price: www.ebay.com/itm/324190760983

  • @ArthurD
    @ArthurD Před 2 lety

    Had to use VPN to access the website, is this normal?

  • @kris8165
    @kris8165 Před 11 měsíci

    Hi!
    What I would like to know,is, can you put actual 1.1/8" fork in that headset! Not adapter on the 1 inch fork,but the actual modern 28.6 steerer fork? Aluminum or carbon or steel, doesn't matter...
    Greetings from Croatia from Kris 😊

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 11 měsíci

      No, the innicycle is strictly for using a 1 1/8” threadless stem with a 1” (or 25 mm) fork and respective frame/headtube.

    • @kris8165
      @kris8165 Před 11 měsíci

      @@JJPELLC Thank you very much for your help!
      I was reading that there are actual threaded to threadless conversion headsets,so I will try to get one if available!

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 11 měsíci

      For a typical 1” frame with a ~30 mm ID headtube it is impossible to fit a 1 1/8” fork. If you have a 32.5 mm ID headtube you can modify a 1 1/8” threadless headset to work.

    • @kris8165
      @kris8165 Před 11 měsíci

      @@JJPELLC Thank you very much for that information! 😊
      I will remove the lower cup,and I'll measure the inner diameter!

    • @DivineMisterAdVentures
      @DivineMisterAdVentures Před 10 měsíci +1

      The answer is absolutely yes. But you'll either have to replace the head tube on the frame or the steering tube on the fork. I'm looking for the procedures to see it done right before I sink in. I imagine keeping the one-inch threaded - it may drop right into place in the new forks and only need a bushing and weld. But so far - nobody knows.

  • @melvyncervera7071
    @melvyncervera7071 Před 3 lety

    Incredible video and love your headset adaptor. Where can I buy a headset adaptor like that.
    - Philippines

  • @marioolivares1432
    @marioolivares1432 Před 2 lety

    I have a frame Águila de Táchira where can contact to try this potencia for buy

  • @dawiskid187
    @dawiskid187 Před 3 lety +1

    Where can I fine the headset parts?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +1

      www.forkmods.com or contact me at joe@jjpne.com

  • @predator1820
    @predator1820 Před 2 lety

    Where could i buy the stem adapter

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 2 lety

      www.innicycle.com or www.forkmods.com (Australia -based reseller)

  • @DarthPingu07
    @DarthPingu07 Před 3 lety

    Hi Joe, how much and can you ship to the UK?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +1

      $125 plus shipping if going international. I am happy to ship anywhere in the world.

    • @hardtzytiangco6719
      @hardtzytiangco6719 Před 3 lety

      @@JJPELLC where i can buy this tube connector

  • @anuwatchotmanee968
    @anuwatchotmanee968 Před 2 lety +2

    ผมอยู่ประเทศไทย ผมอยากได้สิ่งนี้มากเลย

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před rokem

      We are happy to ship to Thailand even from the USA (www.innicycle.com) or Australia (www.forkmods.com). Contact me at joe@jjpne.com with any questions.

  • @traposam
    @traposam Před 3 lety

    What do you call that adapter 6:46

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety

      Everything that is installed during the video is a part of the innicycle conversion headset.

  • @sawnaywin4162
    @sawnaywin4162 Před 3 lety

    Hello :) Where can I buy this Headset part?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 3 lety +1

      Contact me at joe@jjpne.com or visit www.forkmods.com (best for SE Asia/Australia customers)

  • @TheUrzur
    @TheUrzur Před 2 lety

    How can that be 1 1/8" if you use the same fork (1")?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 2 lety

      Did you watch the whole video?

  • @beamaybelarmino3437
    @beamaybelarmino3437 Před rokem

    where can i but that adaptor?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před rokem

      www.innicycle.com or www.forkmods.com if in Australia and surrounding areas

  • @drewlineses2294
    @drewlineses2294 Před 2 lety

    Can this work on a threaded bmx?

    • @JJPELLC
      @JJPELLC  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes! Black only for now. Contact me at joe@jjpne.com for more info.