The Worst Anime Adaptation I've Ever Seen | The Promised Neverland Anime VS Manga Season 2
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- Yes TPN's second season is actually this bad. I am not being hyperbolic. What on earth happened?
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Ray's IQ just dropped when he fulfilled his escape plan (even though it didn't succeed)
He used up all of his IQ points in order to escape.
After that, Ray went braindead. He was just... there.
Oh my god, this is soooo true.. They only highlighted Norman and Emma's intelligence or capabilities!
no Emma took it all
Right
Ray became monke
See you in 5 years when they make To Promised Neverland: Kindergarten.
Motherhood
Clowntown ;)
Lmfao 💀
More fitting when you realize that Kindergarten means ‘Children’s Garden’
@@JoshQwerty ohhh.... _oh yes._
The moment you realize that nobody wanted to take credit for writing episodes 10 and 11, you know that these people have hated what they created
@mew Yeah, arcs like Goldy Pond, The 7 Walls, and a few more that my brain can’t remember would be a nightmare to animate. And the internal dialogue is the thing that makes all the characters special. I feel so bad for the staff and the mangaka because it’s obvious that they were forced to rush it to it’s finally. Honestly Rest In Peace TPN, we’ll miss you.
A bit late, but I think its not only because they didn’t like what they made, but also, since the community already hated it since the first 5 eps, no one will want to create more episodes just for people to continue hating on it
@@silverstrike8187 episodes are usually made months before airing
We probably ended up with a PowerPoint at the end of episode 11 because a good chunk of the animators refused to animate it.
@@adamlambboy8332 or they ran out of budget most likely
People: manga is bad.
studio: ok, we'll fix it
*proceeds to erase all good parts from the manga and make the bad ones even worse*
This is what happens when you try an adaptation from bad source material! That’s pure insanity if you ask me!
AOT:
@@wizardmagic1580 Nah, very different situations, and the anime was at least decent
chapter 131 onwards hasnt been animated yet
Wasn't it somekind of masterpiece the manga?
Congrats promised neverland fans. Now you understand what it feels like to be a Tokyo ghoul and berserk fan.
@The Eclipse I am become Pain, destroyer of hopes.
@Mocha Ritsu you can pretty much just consider yourself a masochist lol
oof what happened with Tokyo Ghoul?
@@bella-tt9hk
Excessive Censorship, went Anime only, Adapted 130 chapters into 12 episodes. Basically Pierrot being Pierrot
As a Tokyo Ghoul fan, I’m happy with what we got. Most of the fandom is extremely ungrateful for the anime adaptation and it bothers me :/
Wake up
See that they erased Yuugo
Day ruined
exactly! Yuugo is better off dead then not existing A T A L L
Look at it this way. If he doesnt exist, he cant be ruined by the bad adaption.
They erased the whole Goldy Pond tbh
When I saw no yuugo or Lewis I just now it's not worth to watch any further.
Your day was ruined for that?! That's stupid lol
i legit almost cried after realizing how much they ruined ray, it's even worse than in the manga...... like his personality was watered down and he just started to blindly follow emma. in season one he always disagreed with emma because of their different logic and morals but now... :(
If you want an extended version of TPN first arc then maybe you should try and read Shadows House.
You might find it even better than TPN in terms of story, plot and the consistency of the horror/mystery aspec of the series.....
no
@@batmeme9349
@@batmeme9349 Agreed, I watched shadows house and am so sad it will likely not get another season, it was so good and criminally underrated
Because he trusted her just like norman in the s1 when he got separated from them he built his on opinion and logic in the other hand ray after s1 and after she saved him from being a sacrifice and killing himself he trust and contend on her more than before he still have his own personality but bc they when through the same things he understand her more than norman l know it feels like he is following her blindly but l think this is the best explanation about why he is like that after s1
GoT season 8, Berserk 2016, and Tokyo Ghoul: *"FINALLY A WORTHY OPPONENT OUR BATTLE SHALL BE LEGENDARY"*
House of Card last season -"pff kids"
GoT didn't even have source material for the last few seasons tbh.
Tokyo ghoul was 322 chapters long, and the anime was 48 episodes.
For comparison: HxH 2011 had 339 chapters adapted into 148 episodes.
@@shiroiku9314 the first season was awesome
@@biosavat9475 I agree
It feels like the most passive agrressive adaptation ever
Lol, OMG IT DOES! 😂
YES it’s like they knew that we would be mad but still shat on us anyways!
@@JoshQwerty that end montage too, of the various plot points. It was like them going 'oh hey there manga fans. You came here excited to see TPN animated, eh? PSYCH!!! But here, since we have 3min left over, have this slideshow of some of the events you thought you were going to see when tuning in. Take it or leave it cause it's all you're going to get."..... That is quite the dick move, there... That slide show ending was like they hawked up a loogie, spat in our faces, then took off running into the night(just like they covered their asses by removing the writing credits of EP. 10&11)
I think it’s just passive. Like a rushed homework assignment.
@@TheOutlawed1000 nah, that end montage...there was no need to do that after they rushed the season 2 ...that was just insulting to the fans, straight up
The worst part for me was that slight bit of hope they hinted at when emma said she'd stay back, making you think it was gonna lead into a season 3 anime only story, only for it to wrap up everything with a powerpoint presentation
Try Shadows House, it has some same aspect and vibes just like TPN but at least that series is much more planned out.
exactly! that was biggest slap in the face
I felt it so hard tooo ahahahah and then was super confused with that choice to rush things as a presentation xD
@@annaisntcool It hurt so much. Made me furious.
Yeah, in the preview the gate to the human world was shown and everyone in the comments was hyped up and thought there's going to be season three including me but that slideshow was like a huge slap in the face. Also, the knife Peter used to off himself was clean, no trace of blood, it's like blood proof or something, that scene made me wonder if they are mocking us and purposely trying to get on my nerves.
Reasons why I kinda disliked season 2:
1. They skipped my fav arc: Goldy Pond
2. They didn't add Yuugo or Lucas
3. They got reunited with Norman unbelievably fast
4. They didn't follow the manga they randomized the plot instead
5. Emma and Phil didn't get reunited in gracefield
6. Isabella didn't die
My fav was goldy pond too 😭💔
@@partypois0n same
People apparently like Goldy Pond a lot more than I did.
@@meerkat6684 yeah, goldy pond was a very unique arc for me!
@@partypois0n same
They also never went back to:
- Sonju literally saying that he can't wait to eat wild humans (which is so important considering he was taking care of all of those kids for a couple days)
- The secret that the demon whispered to Isabella's ear when she was in prison (the demon was going to kill her, but said he would spare her if she brought all of the kids back and then whispered another thing she would be rewarded with)
- THEY NEVER TALKED ABT THOSE SOLDIERS THAT RAIDED THE SHELTER? YOU'RE TELLING ME SOLDIERS WITH GUNS WERE DEFEATED BY LITTLE KIDS WITH BOWS AND ARROWS?????
- They never talked more about Ray being Isabella's son, one of the biggest plot twists in the show.
- They also made Phil seem so important, I was expecting a whole episode (at least) dedicated to him making a plan with the other kids to escape, since he seemed like Emma v2.
- They never talked about the guy with a paper bag over his head, or the room that had scribbles on the walls (Yuugo's room in the manga).
- There was also no emotion when Peter killed himself, like when Isabella apologized to the children, his body and blood just disappeared lol.
- Also they forgave Isabella so easily???
I just feel bad for the animators who are so underpaid and making barely enough money to live, spending hours away from their family to make something to make they believed would be good. I need to know how the producers sleep at night knowing they did this.
Sister Krone also mentioned "Have you heard of Him? No? I'll tell you about Him next time you visit." or something of the sort. Him, reffering to the man from the 7 walls. The statue as well, in the little temple they were staying in.
It makes me so upset how they just, never talked about Ray being Isabella's son after it was originally brought up. Did the other kids even know?? Or was it a secret between the two of them?? It makes no sense. Another thing somewhat related; in the manga, Isabella pulls out some note from Ray in like one of the short stories at the end but we never find out what the note says. Like hello?? What was on the note?? She says the note could destroy her, what did your 12 year old son write that could destroy you???
in season 1 it's obvious Ray is Isabella's son, bruh, they even say it
@@DamageMaximo Yes, but after they say it and season 1 ends it isnt brought up again at all in the following season. That was the point they were trying to make.
When sonju said he wanted to eat human flesh I thought he was gonna follow the kids secretly and then eat them afterwards, And then nothing happened.. He even helped the kids at the end with mujika lol.. I was so confused at that moment
I also don't like what they did to Ray's character, he's like... just there. they didn't even mention the fact that he's Isabella's son, like, she didn't even look at him, and it was such a huge twist in the first season, I thought it would be more relevant. Her betrail also came out of nowhere, in the begining os the season she looked ready to sell all the kids and then sudely she helped them, like...
I kinda saw her betrayal a mile away. In S1 when you get her backstory, you know she really loved all of them. And she really never wanted to hurt them. She just wanted them to have the best life possible before they are shipped.
Knowing this, I had a feeling she would betray the demons.
The problem was execution. There was no build up to anything. When Isabella is put in charge. She doesn't do anything. She could have been just a grunt with a gun. Would not have made a difference.
It's just implied that she convinced the momas off screen. And that's it.
So very underwhelming twist.
And yeah. The fact that she seems to love Emma more then her own Son (like every character in the show who just worships her for no good reason). That was down right insulting
In the manga they get a really tiny moment (and an extra chapter dedicated to Isabella)
That basically happens to Ray in the manga too lmao
i heard somewhere that ray was supposed to be killed off. that makes the rest of the story make more sense as ray isn't that important of a character there.
What? Ray was isabella's son? Was that in the anime?
My main concern is actually Phil's uninvolvement in the anime. There was a theory in film theory by matpat that I support that Phil was kind of the mastermind. As he pointed, (which is very cool btw), the manga and season 1 used the panels as point of view. Meaning like in season 1 when they are playing tag, You can see the camera from the bushes. Later on, Phil decided to emerge from the bushes which kind of hinted that that POV was actually Phil's Eyes.
On manga, there were POV at Ray and Emma talking and then a few panels after, Phil emerged from that direction which indicated that it was his. This lead to the theory that Phil was really active and know more than what is shown in manga and anime. The book cover also tells a lot. In the books, all children was looking at one side and the one who knows the plan for escape, Ray, Emma, the other 3 older ones look at the other direction. Oh, did I mention that among all the younger kids, Phil is the only on looking at Emma's direction?
There's a lot of subtle interpretations in the Manga which was also in the season 1 of the anime then they decided to scrap it hoping to do something better than what the original author wants.
Imagine a company having a deal with Apple and made a new cellphone but instead of apple, they decided to put ORANGE as a logo and claim it theirs. That's what happened in this one. It's legally stealing. It's like those parody videos where you take a clip of something and make a new complete series out of it but only using the title as a bait since it's popular.
Director: We need ideas on how to successfully end this anime!
Paid Editor: How about we take things slow? We go by the manga and have a few switch ups from time to time. That way it'll be more of a build up and-
Director: That is the worst idea I have ever heard, you're fired.
Random guy: How about we make a slideshow?
Director: Genius! Absolutely brilliant! You're hired!
This is EXACTLY how it went down you can't change my mind
THEY HAD ENOUGH STUFF IN THAT SLIDESHOW TO MAKE A SEASON 3
It is even (ironically) funnier when you realize that the manga creator was taking part in production process.
A slideshow is the perfect way to describe what we got.
i was so angry they couldve made a whole other season but n o
hopefully in the near future we can find out what really happened and who is to blame for how this season ended up...
but either way i do feel bad for everyone that worked on it, since i cant imagine anyone of em is proud of this giant mess
Hello, how's the read with Shadows House? It's getting an anime adaptation this April.
@@batmeme9349 sorry, i havent looked at it yet, kinda difficult to find the time currently to binge read a manga
@@bocodamondo understandable
Maybe its axed?
Low popularity or no more budget?
@@sn5301679 neh, promised neverland is one of the biggest hit of jump in the past few years
they still release special chapters about the story every few weeks even after it ended. i
ts far from those as it can get
Emma not interacting with Asyhe was a huge opportunity both the Manga and Anime wasted. That would have added genuine weight as to why Emma doesn't want to kill the Demons. Because Ayshe existence show the potential compassion towards humans.
Literally I had this idea forever. Emma should've taken that decision after she meet Asyhe, and heck they should've added some plot while they were searching for the 7 walls about demon society. Maybe even use the ancestors more as to why humans and demons even coexist in the first place. It just hurts seeing so much potential wasted.
Emma wanting to save demons just came out of the blue, especially after you read the first chapters of Goldy Pond arc when she looked so determined on killing them after she witnessed the hunts.
The manga also shot itself in the foot by making Norman's plan too perfect. there were no consequences for the genocide besides the fact that the idea of it is bad which wasn't convincing for me at least, considering everything that happened prior. Not to mention things came conveniently to Norman as well by escaping Lambda so effortlessly.
Idk, I think they should've wrote the manga in parts. end it after the Goldy Pond, then start a new with ideas already planned out and preferably have a whole part dedicated to the ancestors and their history. Wishful thinking but I can't help it.
@@blackcat80yearsago96 I like the Idea of ending the whole thing in goldy pond, with a high note of "and then the revolution started" and only go back to it if there was enough thought given to the story. It feels like a cautionary tale, like what could have happened with demon slayer after mugen train
It's even more heartbreaking to realise how easily some of the problems could've been fixed. Don't oversimplify characters, don't make all stakes meaningless, focus more of character which you did at the beginning.
If only the story was planned enough...
They gave a full episode....to slippery freaking FISH......WHY?!
Well, Even in the manga they're done ite
The first and major problem is that it was posted in Shounen Jump lol. Those people are cut-throat.
@@seroq442 Money has been offered for the author to accept it👍
dude Yugo sitting in that room eating biscuits is THE MOST iconic pannel of the manga, along with the one where they find the first dead little girl
seeing the room empty just hurts so bad.... flat out just thanos snap out of existence my favorite character in the series.... they did my boy Yugo so dirty T.T
Tbh the manga also did him dirty but this is just unreal
Which dead girl
@@Diamondr11Blue Connie
They even have the biscuits on the table smh
@@fireblo33om ikr
it's like they're making fun of us xD
8:38
That short airhorn when Ray slap Norman is priceless lol
By the wise words of Moist Cr1tikal, The Promised Neverland truly ended at season 1.
If you want an extended version of TPN first arc then maybe you should try and read Shadows House.
You might find it even better than TPN in terms of story, plot and the consistency of the horror/mystery aspec of the series.
@@batmeme9349 no
@@batmeme9349 It's you again.
It's best to think about season 1 as a full story.
Fortunately season 1 is a complete story that can stand on its own and still be good.
Nah just read the manga
yes
Agreed let’s pretend season 2 doesn’t exist
And season two can be a non-canon spin off
This was underwhelming everything in season 2 felt rushed they took out one of the best arcs and cut yugao who was a key character in TPN. Norman's reveal was also a let down look how they massacred my boy
Sone people are saying that there will be a fan made anime addaptation dedicated to the goldy pond arc. Visit the discord server of TPN to know more.
They showed the spoiled cookies that he was supposed to be eating when they arrived. I think he was also that human that Mr. Vylk (the grandpa demon) ate
they fcking ruined the reveal
Same. I needed adult Norman so bad😔
@@batmeme9349 Goldy Pond is probably my favorite arc.
I adored the manga. I didn't really feel the need to watch the second season since I had read the entire series already. The other day I heard just how bad it was and had to check out some clips on CZcams and just... wow. They changed everything about my favorite manga series, really disheartening.
If you want an extended version of TPN first arc then maybe you should try and read Shadows House.
You might find it even better than TPN in terms of story, plot and the consistency of the horror/mystery aspec of the series.
Same, I loved the manga! They butchered it so badly.
@@beyondtrash1627 Eh, the manga was still poor in its second half, its just the anime got worse.
11:00 "Your mother was also called Martha?"
"No, but my daughter is called Emma."
"Good enough".
I would have rather had them go completely anime original and write a cohesive story instead of them skipping 50+ chapters and speed running the ending :/
agreed
That's what they should have done fleshed out the story.
THEY REMOVED PAULA IM SAD
i was waiting to the goldie pond arc to be animated man >:l
I wouldve rather waited three more years for season 2 to come out then to get no goldy pond.
This is why I prefer anime that start off slow and slowly get better.
Yeah, try Shadows House.
Something like monster
This my friends, is what we call a “reverse redemption arc.”
Not nessasarily slow but just well adapted and at a consistant pace. If the pace isnt consistant this is what you get
@@tsukasa9205 Exactly!!
It's fucked up how they skipped tons of story just to get to the part where a lot of people think it started getting bad. And then they ended up doing that part even worse. What a world!
I was so excited for Yuugo. He was by FAR my favorite part of this story outside of the opening Gracefield arc. As long as the anime did him justice, it could crash like the rest of the manga for all I cared. But instead of even trying, of even just... making him a carbon copy, they just... got rid of him. It was honestly devastating.
most disappointed I have ever been from an adaptation, the manga was really good until the later parts but man they really fucked it up.
Try Shadows House next, it has some same aspect and vibes as TPN but at least it's much more planned out.
@@batmeme9349 its not popular which therefore means its not as good as tpn
@@jhonnie6778 Not entirely true, that series is a hidden gem.
@@jhonnie6778 as someone who's now read this series. I can say popularity does not equal quality. Like SAO is popular but it isn't that good. MHA is just okay. Naruto is just okay. Shadows house is probably the second best manga I've ever read.
@@productionscrub8476 whats the best manga youve read and whats the third best manga youve read?
To me, when I say "go read the manga" I mean "the anime sucks so much that some of the issues in the manga will seem a lot less important"
I wish so badly, that they would remake this entire adaptation ( aside from season 1 because it was a masterpiece). I pray that they would fix it, but I know it would never happen.
its regrettable that we will never have an animated goldy pond arc, barring a complete reboot. Someone in the production really fucked up.
Opinion: The reason why the goldy pond arc was so good was because it was grounded and related to the previous setting which was a farm. The goldy pond arc is about hunting which is similar to farming just more brutal. But when they strive away from that then in just becomes lame.
True
Try Shadows House, it has some same aspect and vibes just like TPN but at least that series is much more planned out.
@@delvon3932 ive been seeing you in every comments recommending this. are there any places i can watch that?
@@NadNatto i think it's a bot dude
@@emmalion1976I think he's just passionate about sharing the show with others, considering the anime went under the radar judging by how little traction the english trailers have.....
Can't wait for promised neverland: motherhood
Mamahood*
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Hellsing: ultimate
Shaman king (2021)
Soul Eater: resonance (please studio Bones make it happen!)
Promised Neverland: childhood
Game of thrones: murderhood
@@haosmagnaingram6992 for attack on titan which is has a bad ending
Attack on titan: Titanhood
@@gensischosen251 the ending is pretty good, just needs better dialogue
This has 667 likes, can someone un-like it?
And also the time skip just happened, like Emma had a whole new hair style. In the manga there was this one scene where sandy gave Emma two clips to hide her cut off ear, but in the anime she just had it. When I saw that I was very sad.
The first season was simply epic. Every moment was tense and you always had the clear goal in mind: escape Grace Field House.
The second season somehow managed to destroy everything they build up. I wanted to know about Lambda and on and on but it all came down to: oh hey we gotta go back to the gate, conveniently pick everyone up without issue. To add insult to injury we get slapped in the face with that time jump in the last 20 seconds. What a letdown...
Goldy pond was gonna be soooo good :(
Worry not, there's a people that are planning for a fan made addaptation of Goldy Pond arc. Check the discord server of TPN for more info.
@@batmeme9349 which discord? could you send the link?
@@likeacorpse Just a few google search and you'll find the discord server😉
@@batmeme9349 can't you just send the link?
@@batmeme9349 I have looked everywhere for the discord link, and they are all expired.
They marketed it as "anime only" but it was just a rushed version of the manga events. That's why when people were like "well stop comparing it." when I complained how badly the anime compared to the manga, it wasn't really a fair point to me because the anime was just taking things from the manga but making it worse. I honestly would've been up for a whole new story but they didn't do that.
I actually cried when Yugo wasn’t eating cookies with his feet up. I realised I wouldn’t get to see Lucas or Luvis animated and voice acted.
12:27 Amazon is developing a Promise Neverland live-action tv series. My hunch is that CloverWorks were pressured to rush the anime adaptation so it wouldn’t overlap with the upcoming series which is being financed by a much larger/powerful media entity.
I remember when they first announced this season, and that they were going to "go original" I was actually excited. I remember writing pages upon pages of ideas in my notes app of how Lambda could have been the second, higher stakes Jailbreak arc, to call back to the first season, which would give us time to develop Norman's confidants. We would have yugo, time to explore the gracefield kids, etc. etc. My worst mistake was assuming they HAD time. Which they clearly did not
Try Shadows House, it has some same aspect and vibes just like TPN but at least that series is much more planned out.
That would've been cool to see!
Lowkey wish they used your notes for the story instead. I was so excited too, especially after knowing the author is with the cast. I had so much hope it was going to get better next episode even after seeing Mister wasn't in the bunker, I kept hoping but they kept crushing it.
@@aperson2697 Same. I definitely held on to yugo theories for waaaay too long (^-^; Why show us the names of all these characters and leave a note behind if you're not going to follow through with it? My only guess is that it was used to string manga readers along.
when i was reading the Manga, i didn't know that the return to Grace field arc was the final one, so i managed to come up with a hypothesis that i was very convinced of, depending on how the demon in Grace field was out to kill Emma since she was the one how created the new promise, i have concluded that killing the person who created a promise will make it invalid, so when Raturi committed suicide the whole peace thing between the tow worlds ended, and with the previous knowledge that Sonju wanted to eat the kids, there you go, a whole arc in the overworld that has the vibes of the first three arcs, and combining the fear that will be created between the humans in the overworld, that will make the majority wants the kids to either go back or be killed, idk it was a twist that i really wanted to see, i was so disappointed when Sonju decided to not eat the kids for no fucking reason.
I’ve never had a video recommend to me that says “1 minute ago” with someone I’ve never watched before
CZcams algorithm doing you good lmao
same
Promised Neverland Season 2 is a currently recognized bandwagon amongst anyone who watches anime videos. The title expresses a strong opinion in language even a CZcams bot could understand.
same. although after watching this video i'm surprised that season two is basically everything from after the escape till the end of the show. that's a lot of cut content
@@buciallstar fr fr liKe ain’t that 100+ chapters worth of manga content lmao
I guess you did watch him though. Yt algorithm nowadays usually recommends you the newest videos from the creators that you watched several vids of recently . Maybe you watched this creator with autoplay on?
cant believe i was looking forward to this so much.
i even felt a bit sad when it got delayed...
The ending 'slideshow' raised many questions; which became frustrations. I thought I'd consider picking up the manga since the fanbase says it's better. After watching this I'm not sure about continuing with this series.
Normans groupies should have been "villains" when norman switched sides
Change my mind
(If they werent all wounded)
At this point, all outcomes are good except for the canon version.
I think so too, because (spoilers if you haven't read the manga, because I'm going to reference something from that and I didn't watch the anime so I don't know if they said that there)
they said that they ate the demons they killed. ATE them. That alone shows that just because Norman switched sides doesn't explain how their hate for the demons just went away.
yeah, at leas tthat girl that hates demons so much, it made no sense for her to accept so easily
They should’ve at least broken off from their team and go their separate ways.
@@gracea.5504 In the anime at least the girl ate Demons, but that makes me question even more how could she change sides even more
It's frustrating that Jump can give the order and ruin your entire story, but the anime could have had a chance to retell it... I wonder what happened.
Because Shueisha was the producer/investor holding the purse strings....and Shueisha is also Jump,who had axed TPN manga and wanted to boost sales for the last few manga volumes so they made a manga commercial that they claimed was a s2 anime, to do just that.
@@kittykat896 Shueisha is not to blame here.Season 1 of tpn did not sell well and cloverworks decied to not do anymore past season 2, hence season 2 being rushed. Also I do not think manga was axed sales and toc positions were good. The manga droped in quality way before the final arc
the anime was the chance to retell it, the autor was involved.................
@@johanvasquez4564 no he wasn't. They threw his name in at the last minute as damage control knowing that shit was about to hit the fan
@@apbeat9455 Shueisha is in the TPN Committee along with Aniplex. They produced ie invested in this project and hold the purse strings, controlling the written script and allocated money which they hired Cloverworks with. Cloverworks is just an animation studio and don't have the ability to make executive decisions. Nor is their involvement due to desire for an anime they think will make a lot of DVD sales because they aren't reliant on DVD sales since they aren't producers. Aniplex is and yes they didn't want to invest much and didn't want the series to keep going. They did help write the script and we're ok with Shueisha butchering it but only later after a certain point. Why? They made sure the first few episodes adapted the manga source more in hopes it would boost S1 DVD sales from hyped excited fans watching season 2. Cloverworks though are just an animation studio that takes whatever projects they get hired to do. They aren't investors, they're paid staff. SJ axed TPN when that investment started to stagnate and dip in sales in later volumes (SJ will axe a series with very little time to wrap up hence why the speed run in the last few chapters; they only gave the manganka a few chapters to wrap it all up and the lackluster response to the later half of the manga is why sales dipped but it was only in the last few chapters where the manga content suddenly turns into a huge rush ahead to the end cause that is when they got the final order to finish it up, and only in so-and-so amount of space/weeks) This is the reason why they axed it quick and invested the smallest amount of funds they could to adapt this season 2 project. Why? Because them investing a small amount leading to a shitty adaptation makes manga sales in their previous manga investment that stagnated, boost which garners higher net profit returns, while at the same time a new invested manga serialization that took it's place in SJ mag, would've had enough time to start gathering a fan base which will get a fresh batch of profit returns. And part of the end push for profit in TPN is supposed to help carry into the time that's needed for the new investment that took it's place, to start garner a profit for itself. That way no amount or the less amount of time there is, where there's not a continuous growth of profit accumulation.
AOT fans are like "SEASON 4 USES WAY TO MUCH CGI!!!!!!11!111" while we have this.
I have heard a lot of rumours saying the creators got told to hurry up and end the manga which shows - sadly common in the manga industry- so when I saw this season 2 was going at it differently I was hopeful that the creators might get to end it how they wanted to, heck maybe they could even get a 3rd season to properly end the story. But sadly no, it seems what plagued them in the manga industry followed them to the anime industry
Of course the writers didn’t want to make this, the writers legit didn’t want to get credited for the final two episodes
I haven't seen the s2 anime, but the "Norman sickness cured" contrivance *seems* (despite being very stupid) somehow LESS stupid than the manga Lambda test subject "seizures" that became a plot point for all of 8 seconds that were going to kill Norman and his fellow Lambdas but HEY Adam doesn't have them so maybe we can find a cure from him! and then they literally never mention it again or even go through any process to cure it lol
Honestly anime basically does the same thing. Norman and Lambda crew are gonna die, old man has key, map reveals the cure and that's it. We never actually see them get it or take it
Nah, it's the same
the manga makes more sense because if you experiment on something there will be some sucesses , is it convenient? Yes, but it makes more sense than some random dude has the cure
@@kameronrogers4000 Actually, in the powerpoint presentation, in one of the slides we actually have a frame of norman and victor playing chess, and Norman getting (what I pressume is) the cure. Still shit tho.
@@dangernoodlegrewlegs5929 They literally didn't experiment, they just said "maybe we can and it should work" and then never did it
I watched season 1 and then continued in the manga. I absolutely love it, one of my favorite stories. I adore the goldy pond arc and Yuugo really grew onto me.
But I couldn't even finish season 2 because I was so pissed. Ugh all the excitement completely destroyed
i read the manga after ep5 and at one point in the manga they say smth like “if we dont get this guy (aka yuugo) on our side, our chances of survival are close to none” so i literally screamed “THEN WHY WOULD YOU WRITE HIM OUT”
If you want an extended version of TPN first arc then maybe you should try and read Shadows House.
You might find it even better than TPN in terms of story, plot and the consistency of the horror/mystery aspec of the series..
Non-manga readers have no idea how strong emma was
she was the embodiment of the ultimate power of talk-no-jutsu
She was someone who, if I had one wish, would make the president of my country.
@ray are you okay Ray
how strong? i don’t have access do the manga
@@R_i_t_s_u extremely strong, there were many times were she almost died and, well, didn’t. Like for example, the Goldy Pond arc.
You know why I feel so much pain? Not because Promised Neverland is bad. It's not. Yes it has issues and very serious ones, but it's still a pretty nice story, like 6 or 7 out of 10. I feel pain because it could have been 10 EASILY. When I first started reading it, I was blown away by its setting and mysteries, I've felt that way since I was 8 reading Harry Potter. It was such a unique and interesting story- kids vs demons, masterpiece in the making people will talk about for years! And yet... meh. That's okay. Emma doesn't even need to sacrifice anything, everything just happens and deus ex machinas here and there to help her. I critiqued this series in the past not because I hate it, but because I wanted it to be so much better. This is the same issue I've had with Gantz and few other stories- incredible idea, amazing start, okay development and god-awful ending.
Try Shadows House, it has some same aspect and vibes as TPN but at least it's more planned out.
It’s true, I feel like if it did a little bit better, or if some parts were not as rushed it could have possibly gotten close to being as good as AOT (which until recently I hadn’t seen any of attack on Titan, and by god, what a masterpiece (I just finished season 3 so one more to go))
@Madison Francis Glad to hear you've gotten into Shingeki no Kyojin!! It really is such a magnificent series. And I agree-I definitely saw the parallels in the 2 shows. And it felt like Promised Neverland wanted a more hopeful take, perhaps, but really cut corners to get there. And I had really loved the first season and was very excited about the second one, as well. I've already watched the longer video about the manga, and now I'm glad I waited on the anime. Why? Because I would've been confused and then gutted with the changes (how the anime removed so much!), plus the manga itself probably wouldn't have been the best use of time. It's really unfortunate.
The plot was so DIFFERENT and Amazing for me. I didn't expect The promised Neverland to be something like this. A sweet, loving mom, happy kids and a starting filled with happy times to have a BIG plot twist. I was really impressed. The plot twists were totally unpredictable. I though The Promised Neverland might be another boring classic anime. The season 1 was too amazing for me and the way they just tortured season 2, I wanna sue them.
Oh god not the gantz
It has amazing ideas, creative monster, good lore, and variation of characters. The story is simple: you died, here's a MIB job to get your life back, get points based on your mission and if you don't want to life back you can exchange it for better weapons and keep fighting like a doom slayer.
The characters isn't just normal human, there's vampire and physic guy. But oh boy the ending is just terrible. It also has TONS of plot holes. It's not that I care, but it feels a miss potential to use it in story. I found it from a gacha game collab and it's one of my fav manga ideas if not for the plot holes and stupid ending
8:39 you can't just slip that in, man. I laughed so hard.
Can we really call it dissapointing when the studio gave up making it and simply rushed right through it because they lost the money. There was good effort...they did made a pretty good Power Point presentation of what a happy final episode could have been.
In an interview right after S1 ended, the director already confirmed that they were going anime original, even though there was no need to. The manga is already complete. They gave the excuse that the ending was disliked, but all they needed to do was slow the pacing down and fill in the manga's holes. Instead they rushed the anime at quadruple the speed of the manga. I'm convinced that CloverWorks only brought in Shirai at the last minute for damage control and just for him to do nothing but tell what plot points they need forcibly and lazily shoehorn in at the last minute. I doubt Shirai would ever have allowed this to happen if CloverWorks gave him real authority when he did everything the anime did infinitely better. I feel so bad for Shirai. Not only did CloverWorks ruin his story, but they ruined it while spoiling it in the process. I wouldn't be surprised if Shirai demanded a remake. This is just an unacceptable adaptation.
isnt the author a woman? Im pretty sure she got used as a scapegoat
@@Unknown-oc1kt Either the gender, the author was 1,000% brought in as a scapegoat to forcibly and lazily shoehorn in whatever plot points they missed at the last second.
Also in an 2019 interview, one of the producers said
"So right now we are working on the 2nd season of The Promised Neverland, and the original manga is still ongoing. For the first season we stayed true to the story of the manga, we left the story more or less unchanged, but in the 2nd season I think we're going to have more flexibility in how we portray the story that's in the manga. Of course we can't say for sure how that is going to work because we're still working on it, none of it is quite fixed for the moment so there is a chance we will deviate from the manga but we can't say for sure yet."
They were working on it already while the manga is still ongoing, the author is working on the manga while they work on the anime, so I also don't think the author is involved when they were making the changes.
@@Unknown-oc1kt the writer(Shirai) is a man and the artist (Pozuka) is a woman
Shirai is the one that was used as a scapegoat
@@YellowPingouin ah my bad. thanks for the fact check
Maybe the real Neverland was inside of us the whole time...
gross
@@PowerSkiff12 NO NOT LIKE THAT SHIT
8:38 wtf is this little noise here lmao it caught me off guard
Watching the anime made me cry, not because it was sad or beautiful, but because it was so horribly shit.
And despite some major issues with manga, I enjoyed it because I read it after the anime, and it just felt so much better
FMA 2003 is also one of the very few anime that does it own original thing and doesn't end up being straight dogwater.
@VinceSM the soul eater anime tone changed too drastically in the anime original parts and I thought the way they ended the final fight was silly. But that's just me of course.
Try Shadows House, it has some same aspect and vibes just like TPN but at least that series is much more planned out.
The best anime original end was probably Kekkai Sensen season 1 (blood blockade battlefront). It does help that that series is more episodic than most anime but even still, the overarching story of both Black and White is great and despite being anime original characters, both are very well developed.
Trigun as well
@@MrInuhanyou123 Trigun is really great. I didn't know it had an anime original ending. Cool.
I would prefer to have only two seasons adapted rather than a season of *t h i s*
Edit: I also am kinda sad that we never get to know how to pronounce "his" name, or as Lowart called him, Mr. Scribbles.
Yeah,im curious about that too
Maybe they only wanted to avoid saying that name, and the cuts kind of snowballed until nobody remembered what they cut.
Who do you mean “him” oh that demon oh nvm
Hell I was fine with just the first season only over this 🥲
@mew I would say they’re about on par even with reading the manga first lol, but the manga is def a must read in my opinion.
You say your video is "disorganized" but i find that quite fitting cause season 2 promise neverland is even MORE disorganized. Watching season 2 almost gave me the exact same feeling when watching the final season of Game of Thrones. Owh God
"They go into a room ... And it's empty"
I feel the same pain.
That Old demon scene with Norman feels like the fucking Martha scene in BvS.
First thing I thought, holy shit lol
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?
Wait until that same scene happens in Kong vs Godzilla 🤣
@@pinoycartalk What do you mean? Please, elaborate for those of us not in the know.
@@GamerGarm Nah he’s just saying that it would be hilarious if it does happen in Godzilla vs Kong
What bothers me the most about this season is that there are weirdos on the internet that actually enjoyed this anime and call it better than the manga.
We live in a society where opinions exist
@@batmeme9349 That's why creators can get away with mediocrity
Everyone have their own different opinions
@@micheal6827 Saying the anime is better than the manga isn't an opinion, it is a statement. And statements can be challenged.
@@t.o.p6849 This ain't mediocrity. This is trash lol.
If anything, Neverland S2 is more comparable to Tokyo Ghoul Root A, where it intertwines anime original content with a rushed version of the ideas and stories present in the manga to make a vaguely original yet vaguely adapted ending where all sorts of deviations have occurred at odd intervals while the production values tank below the first season. I've never heard the FMA comparison before for S2 until now, and yeah, it's bonkers when everyone already has Root A right there to use.
The only major difference is that Root A covered the end of TG's first manga so that it can eventually get 2 more seasons to rush through the TG:re manga. Neverland doesn't have a continuation, and it probably shouldn't get one.
Man, every episode of this season I was waiting for Yugo to finally come
I haven't seen or read it but I just feel bad for the fans.
you should read it. its a good read imo
@@ayoayo1044 can you link me to where I can read it for free?
@@friedchicken9553 search the promised neverland online
@@friedchicken9553 look up "promised neverland read for free" or something like that
@friedchicken ww3.readneverland.com/chapter/the-promised-neverland-chapter-93/ there you go start at chapter 39
The only explanation for why this season ended up like this that makes any sense to me is that; *aliens showed up at CloverWorks, killed everyone working on this show and continued the production as undercover agents.*
This thing left me absolutely dumbfounded.
There is a simpler explanation.
The second half of manga is shit and the anime would not have gotten a third season. So they could have either adapt the Goldy Pond arc and leave the story unfinished, or finish the story by any means necessary.
What do you mean the ending on manga was cool since it's not a happy ending
@@emmalion1976 It is, Emma gets to be with her family in the end (she doesn't remember them but she "feels like she wanted to see them" (which is BS, as it implies she DOES remember them))
Also, she Talks-Jutsu her way out of every conflict in the second half
well clover works certainly had there priorities i mean look at wonder egg priority it’s sooo good
@@Axymerion and apparently, she also had to not see them again but somehow she does
Anytime I tell people about this anime for the first time there are two things I always say.
1. Make time to read the manga
2. Season 2 doesn't exist if someone tells you it does or you see something that makes you think there's a second season that is a lie. There is only one season.
The Goldy Pond arc was my favorite in the manga, everything went downhill from there but at least that part was really good. I honestly can't believe they skipped it, along with the whole nobles confrontation thing. I'll definitely be skipping this season, they left out all the best parts so I don't see the point of wasting my time with it.
I love the split second airhorn slap at 8:38
The last episode was dogshit. Just so, so bad and rushed. I was so disappointed with season 2. The last few minutes of episode 11 was basically a power point presentation.
11 episodes? This trash heap should've ended quicker
what are you talking about? they gave us season 3 in the last episode
@@Unknown-oc1kt lol
MY COMPLAINTS: (may have spoilers)
-slideshow of what could be the next big thing for Emma and her group (adventures and stuff)
- the lack of portrayal towards Ray being Isabella's biological son and was like set aside. I may be selfish but gimme some pov or some sort.
- Yeah, Yuugo's GONE. NOT A SIGHT OF HIM. NO EXPLANATION FOR THE WORDS/NAMES WRITTEN ON THE WALL.
- THE HELL SONJU'S DOING? LAST I HEARD, U LIKE THE THOUGHT OF EMMA AND OTHERS TO ESCAPE TO BREED, SO CAN LIKE EAT. YET HELP THEM GET TO THE GATE TO ESCAPE THE WORLD??
-Ray was like the one following Emma and norman. Its like to begin with, it wasnt emma who was able to catch up to the two geniuses, but it was Ray instead.
-ah yes, their norman and lamda's experiments lives' were also not taken seriously. We didnt even see them make the cure.
If you want an extended version of TPN first arc then maybe you should try and read Shadows House.
You might find it even better than TPN in terms of story, plot and the consistency of the horror/mystery aspec of the series....
Corporate meddling? No, is pretty simple in Japan anime adaptation of the manga is by the most part made to promote the anime, they are planned in advance and for the most part they have two seasons at first. The problem with The Promise Neverland anime is that because the manga ended a while ago there was no incentive to keep the anime going as it was not promoting anything, but the project was already started, so there was no canceling now. They probably also got the budget cut + Covid, thus they decided to not do a straight adaptation ,as the arcs coming up would have been pretty expensive to adapt . Instead to adapt the rest of the manga on a shoe string budget and skip the more expensive arcs.
It's why Nisekoi never got a 3rd season: The manga is done, has been done, and there's nothing to promote.
Well we still have season one.
And if we’re lucky they’ll come back and try this again in a few years with competent writers.
They better! It would be criminal to not utilize the potential with this story!
No.....no they won’t lol. This is what you get lol
@@TheManInTheRedHat come on, try to have some hope! We’re already getting a live action series, if that’s successful maybe we could get some more animated stuff too!
No way...Many people didn’t like manga ending and criticized the author.So he had no confidence for full adaptation of anime.So he made it short cut.And manga is the real source of income.Anime doesn’t give that much profit.So this is the happy ending
the fact that they could've made an entire season out of that powerpoint slideshow bugs me so much. there was the queen and royal shit, the "promise", meeting the kids norman saved, saving the mass produced farm children, etc etc that could've been made into a whole season. a movie, at least. but they didnt.
It's literally called the PROMISED neverland and they freaking cut out the promise 😂
They wanna end the series as soon as possible...
the actual promise scene was given all but one powerpoint slide 🤦
@@Peetaleem FR LMAOOOO
I completely agree with literally EVERYTHING you said. And something that I've been holding onto and have a hope of is that they make a season 3. I know it sounds ridiculous and could possibly never happen but I really do believe that the slide show in the finale has a greater significance. The slideshow could either be a very horrible ending or a set up (more of a preview) for another season. I kid you not I saw a tik tok of an anime only saying, "wait, what even was the promise they made at the end?" and that got me thinking, poor anime only's have no idea what happened!!! Like, I genuinely feel bad and I hope that a season 3 would just cover all of that!
I'm pretty sure the reason this happened is due to the fact that the manga bombed so spectacularly. Season 1 was so good in both the anime and the manga. It's likely that the execs were expecting PN to do like 5 seasons and be a huge staple. After PN did its nosedive and just... ended, the execs most likely were just trying to get out of the series as fast as possible as cheaply as possible.
I have no proof of this, but this makes the most sense from a business standpoint. While there may have been some neat things about the manga, its ending was so terrible, and had started out so great, it made zero financial sense to try and waste money on a series that would literally just suck in color.
I imagine they had already started working on it to some degree while the last chapters were coming out, realized it was garbage, stripped of everyone outside a skeleton crew, and just told to rush it out the door and never talk about it again.
They could’ve fixed the manga ending and made this anime perfect all the way but they threw all of it in the trash for no reason at all. One of the most disappointing shows I’ve ever seen.
Try Shadows House, it has some same aspect and vibes just like TPN but at least that series is much more planned out.
Man and its so sad too because I was like "oh, its going to deviate from the manga a little, im interested to see where this goes!" And then it's just.... actual trash LMAO
It's such a shame too because the story, while having some issues, had some good stuff in it, and was easy to fix! I just don't understand why they made the changes they did
Try Shadows House next, it has some same aspect and vibes as TPN but at least it's much more planned out.
Exactly the story needed more time to breathe.
Ok so I just finished your teen titans videos. I subscribed. I'm going to watch the rest of the channel starting with Avatar the last air bender.
I would absolutely start supporting your patreon the day you did TMNT 2003. I just watched it for the first time in my life on Paramount+. You would have so much to talk about character development, lessons, and themes. Right up your alley.
Cheers you put alot of work into these.
Thanks for this video, I loved the first season never read the manga but was left so confused and disappointed with the 2nd!! We were introduced to a new world and characters and it felt so rushed. I got so damn lost haha
Promised Neverland Fans: worst anime adaptation!
Tokyo Ghoul Fans: First time?
Did Norman die after the anime? Because he was dying from a disease he had and part of the reason why they invaded headquarters was to find the cure, but the cure was never brought up again afterwards.
My head cannon is that right after the last scene Norman just just dies right there
No he did not die
nah, that bald black guy was shown with a medic robe on the slideshow, he probably figured out the cure
They have a cure, so he won't die
Lmao just imagining Norman dropping to the floor right after their reunion makes me laugh for some reason.
I'm gonna pretend that they didn't make this season 2 and still waiting for the real season 2...this season is just "what if" series
So basically this is Tokyo ghoul root A where they leave the key parts of the story but remove the context and tie everything in slopy way
At least Tokyo Re season 1 really tried to clean up that mess.
@@jturner2577 i mean kinda but at the same time no, Tokyo ghoul re is also a hyper condense version of the manga it has some context but lacks all the detail and depth of the manga so in a sense is even worse
Emma's best moment was in the Goldy Pond Arc and I was upset they skipped it. Also, RIP Yuugo.
I was sincerely hoping the 2nd season would fix it the issues I had with the manga and it literally just made it worse.
Lowart you are the best FMA 2003 defender on CZcams and I can't appreciate it enough, I can't stand this trash season being compared to something actually good as a negative
3:38 I had literally the same thought!
"Huh, where's the old dude? Did he appear later or do they just shuffle some things around?" and was really confused.
It's honestly impressive how much they screwed up... everything, this season.
Shadows House would be the next TPN this season (I hope...)
*Mild Spoilers*
The way I see it they should've kept this season up until the next time skip. That way the events at Goldy Pond and the characters in there would be included. Thid would also mean the studios plate wouldn't be full of so much stuff and so by that point a 3rd season could be made and that's where the manga started to go downhill so the studio now that they have less stuff to deal with could make a separate story. That way season 3 would end in the way the Anime would want it and not take the direction that the manga did.
When i was watching the anime i thought exactly the same when they said that they would stay in the demon world. I was a little disappointed at the end.
I was waiting
For this ...😭
tbh i was already worried that the 2nd season might be a bad adaptation before it even began because cloverworks were also releasing horimiya and wonder egg priority at the same time so I think that it might be difficult for them since they're handling three shows but I never expected that the 2nd season would be even worse than what I imagined
I left s2 on the back of my "plan to watch" shelf since I did read the manga, but hearing this I don't think I need to bother. Sounds like they cut the parts I enjoyed while emphasizing on those I didn't.
Yeah but saying is “horrible” and “very bad” is over reacting don’t get me wrong I understand but when I say I like it people try to convince me it’s bad or I should read the manga BUT I DID tbh everyone hyped goldy pond SO GODAMN MUCH and I was exited to read it and i didn’t like it as much as I should
@@rivo3 There is no should though when it comes to enjoying something. If you like it, enjoy it.
Apparently they decided to go with this whole semi-anime original ish approach because they weren't happy with how the manga ended which is fair as it seems that the author rushed it. But instead of "improving" it, i think they just tried to make it "cleaner". I believe the main reason they remove the whole goldy pond arc was to not make the story too convoluted even tho their sacrificing one of the best arcs in the entire series, doing this means that they don't have to deal with introducing all those kids from the goldy pond arc which gives them a much lower amount of people to work with and to develop. Following the core structure of the story whilst not deviating too much and introducing too much plot points in the story.
On paper it seems fine and understandable to do. But i think they misjudged what exactly caused the downfall of the manga and they tried to introduce something that they thought would seem natural to implement in the plot and everyone would be fine with it, but they never bothered to fix the already existing issues that they were trying to fix in the first place that would led them to the desired ending that they want. And this might be a hunch, but i think they might have realized this at the end bit of this adaptation which what caused the whole ppt presentation of an ending...
So in the end, i think the author was too overwhelmed with the convoluted storyline she created in the manga, introducing way too much characters that she can't possible develop and explore them all, and i think she realized that at some point, with time against her, she had to just end it there and i guess she wanted to fix it all in the anime. So she made it extremely clean here removing all the stuffs that made the story too complicated but she completely dodged all the other issues in the story. So instead of actually trying to fix the story, she and the studio just erased everything that they thought were causing issues. Unfortunately, it didn't went so convenient for them as it did for emma....
Just a thought to share ^•^
Fans: so are you guys going to fix each of the plot points and actually take your time in developing each of the concepts and characters in a more thorough and proper manner?
Author and studio: nah, were just going to completely remove what caused those issues in the first place, then were just gonna have it all conveniently play out so that we can hopefully create a more cleaner and natural storyline..
Fans: wait, so you guys would just rather completely erase the issues rather than fixing it? Isn't that kind of lazy? Also isn't the story being too convenient one of the biggest issues of the manga anyway?
Author and studio: wait, it was?
Fans: what?
Author and studio: wHaT???
*and thus, the slideshow ending was born cause they fucked themselves*
I thought the author is a guy.
@@Cat-it9kk he is
Laughs in JoJo
In a 2019 interview, one of the producers said
"So right now we are working on the 2nd season of The Promised Neverland, and the original manga is still ongoing. For the first season we stayed true to the story of the manga, we left the story more or less unchanged, but in the 2nd season I think we're going to have more flexibility in how we portray the story that's in the manga. Of course we can't say for sure how that is going to work because we're still working on it, none of it is quite fixed for the moment so there is a chance we will deviate from the manga but we can't say for sure yet."
They were working on it already while the manga is still ongoing, the author is working on the manga while they work on the anime, so I don't think the author is involved when they were making the changes. And the manga hasn't even reached the ending yet they were already deciding to deviate from it.
the writer tried a differnt ending... one thing i didn't like was ray's development hes not even active in the story more, theres no need for him now
The air horn and hit-marker when Ray slapped Norman made me laugh thanks