The Manga That Betrayed Us All
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- čas přidán 29. 11. 2022
- Usagi Drop... how could you do this to me?
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All background music is from the Usagi Drop OST (though a lot of it has been altered a bit to fit the tone of this video) - Krátké a kreslené filmy
This is the first time in an anime history where people said "don't make a season 2."😂
Lol. Right? The anime is perfect and sweet as is.
... or they could make a 2nd season with an altered plot that people would be satisfied with.
Sakurasou is also kinda like that
the second must be Fuuka...
I was like that with Rent a Girlfriend 💀
So THAT is what people mean when they say "please dont Usagi drop us" when a new found family series shows up.
Yep. That's exactly what we mean
My friend explained it to me in High school because he didn't want me to experience the same betrayal he had because of Usagi Drop
@@mr.protagonist5639 So how many DO end up the Usagi drop route?
@@silverhawkscape2677 ever heard of 'If It's for My Daughter, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord'?
@@seedh1674 I didn't continue it and it seemed wholesome....:(
I wish I could write psychological horror as mentally damaging as this manga.
@@illpunchyouintheface9094 that's not psychological horror, like this manga you need to set a journey through little challenges giving the readers a sense of growing and realization along the characters.
Just to take everything away in the end in the most tragic and grotesque way possible, not exactly making all the characters suffer, but the one who turns the page
Edit: I forgot about one of my favorite parts, giving the readers little hints about something big, something terribly offsetting that is taking place since the start, nothing too obvious
Amen to that, except I also want some eldritch horror tossed in.
FRR
@@melodicdumpster you're just describing Attack on Titan
The fact Japan has a huge problem with teen girls running away from their home because their fathers saw them in a way a father should never see a daughter, makes this manga even more disgusting to me.
womp womp
@@davidkatsuragi
Did you just say “womp womp?”
It's kinda funny that this usually happens when the dad works 12 to 15 hours a day and rarely sees his kid. My stepdad and grampa were astonishingly annoyed because I tend to ask a lot about stuff and then I follow whatever chores they do like hammering nails to the wood taking care of chickens and doing laborious jobs in general and after I turned a teenager they literally treat me like a male worker or a son giving me instructions on how to measure wood and where to drill the nails and holes and making doghouses and sheds. They even gave me industrial grade pressure washer for my birthday because they know I love cleaning pavements and walls. I always wanted a wet vacuum cleaner but maybe when I turn 30.
It's kinda funny because some men do see me not as a woman but rather as another man. Maybe because I act like a dad and has a fat dad mom bod staring at construction workers all day along with the other dads.
@@janinebelleestrada7096
It’s usually about the environment and people you grew around. Judging from what you said, you have loving parents that treat you like family. When it comes to Usagi Drop, the audience was manipulated into thinking it was just about family, but turned out it was about how bad people exist…and that’s about it. Just….mentally ill people exist, they view people they should never view as love interests, and it’s sad. That’s what it dulls down to.
@@janinebelleestrada7096 there's something wrong with your reading comprehension. OP said something about how there is a societal problem in Japan where teen girls leave their homes coz of the sexual deviancy of their fathers and the author still chose to make this into a disgusting story despite this. And u made it about yourself as if that's what OP was talking about.
So this manga can be summed up as "they had us in the first half, not gonna lie."
The rightest way to describe it !
Yup like holy shit wtf
Donno man second half looks like a good payoff.
Adopt a little girl and get a wife (in the future). Seems like a good life.
@@xxXXRAPXXxx In Alabama maybe !
@@alialluaibi3008 Aren't we all living in the Alabama dimension really?
It's kinda funny that the usagi drop anime is what got me to not be afraid to one day be a dad and then the manga made it impossible for me to admit that openly lmao
oh noooooo
@@Lowart fortunately I'm so desensitized to Japanese weirdness that it didn't even bother me, it was just one of many "welp, can't recommend this show" moments
@@Rannos22 I think the show is totally fine to recommend with the asterisk that the manga goes into fucked up territory
Raise your own waifu bro
@@Rannos22 I'm definitely with you. It didn't really bother me that much and I've seen far weirder out of Japan. It's whatever.
I will ALWAYS remember a fan letter directed to the mangaka herself from a real father-daughter duo who were fans of this series. Their distraught, betrayed reaction, particularly from the father, felt really heavy and disgusted and hearbroken, I could FEEL it just by READING it.
Wait, whose reaction? The mangaka's reaction at the pair (in which case they're romantically together?), or father-daughter (normal) feeling disgusted by this potential happening being portrayed in the mangaka's manga?
@@angelsoflolzread again. The letter was sent by the fans, so obviously it’s the fans’ reactions.
How the turntables
do you know where i can find this letter ?
Ok since you remember the fan letter you NEED to tell us where we can find it and read it ourselves.
The manga about grooming that groomed the audience into almost believing it wasn't a manga about grooming. The insidious way the writer frames the story so that a child having a romantic relationship with their father figure is treated as acceptable, normal, and encouraged is just gross. It's groomer propaganda.
True true.
My favourite horror story!
Grooming is intentional by definition
The guy raised his daughter without such intentions. It's not grooming and he did pretty good job
But yeah ended poorly
Still a decent story about parenting, how you percept it depends on reader
@@mrgenry6055worse thing about this this manga was written by a woman
@@gensischosen251 how is this related in any way? Leave the author alone by the gods sake
When Spy Family first began, every body said "Its gonna Usagi Drop us!"
So glad it didn't
SO THATS WHERE THE MEME COMES FROM LMAO
If spyxfamily went that route, I would have just lost hope. But because of Yor's existence in the series, I highly doubt it's ever going to go that route.
How? It established Yor and Loid loved each other(Hiding it) and Anya SHIPPED THEM IN THE FIRST EP?!
@@kai8618That's not the same at all
@@justaghostinthesea But it clearly established that the ship tease is between Yor and Loid...that's why I don't understand the meme for it
Damn this hits me personally. I am 35 and when I was 28 I decided I didn't want kids, and I was ok just being a bachelor till i died. Well when I turned 30 my estranged sister, died in a car wreck and her oxycontin addicted baby daddy didn't want anything to do with the girl he had with her. My parents are also gone, so if it wasn't me she would be going to an orphanage, or some group home. So I got full custody of her, and it was one hell of a shock for me. It was pretty rough, and I was unsure of it, until once she broke a glass, which I didn't care about, it was a cheap glass, but she hid after she did it. After I found her, she broke down into a sob, and started begging to not send her away. She basically knew that nobody wanted her, and she truly thought she was trash to be thrown out if she did something wrong, well that did me in, and I started crying along with her. Now I don't cry, I played football, and was a soldier for many years and I have a high pain threshold but that moment was a spear straight into my heart. It was a struggle getting her self esteem built up, but we did it. Anyway, she is now 14 and I had to beg one of my female employees into taking her underwear shopping. Other than that we are doing pretty good. Just us two against the world.
o7 .
It’s currently 12 am and I’m crying 😭 this is a beautiful story I wish you and your daughter well
@@Amayram21 I see CZcams did the funny and you pressed send one too many times
@@ChilledBacon I think it was actually 12 and he was crying. Just a bet tho.
@@pit2992 just a hunch i presume
Imagine meeting up with a guy who you went to a parenting school with and asking about their daughter only to find out _he’s sleeping with her_
the woman who he was in love with at the beginning seeing them and being “WHEWWW i dodged a bullet there!!!”
isn't she also his aunt technically? she's the daughter of his grandpa. i might be misremembering but i have no intention of reading it again to check.
@@orektez it came out that they weren’t ‘really’ related apparently. Which always happens with these sorts of stories. ‘It’s not technically incest’ 🤢
sheesh
@@emilybarclay8831Completely overwrites the story just to force in a fetish
That why I liked Buddy Daddies so much. The ending was "hey lmao we raised this child properly"
Such. A. Great. Series.
Amazing series
Also I like both dad are really best buddies, not romantic partner.
From being chaotic hitmans to wholesome and proud fathers. Damn I love that series so much
Honestly? Same. I may be a cave dwelling fujoshi but I really do prefer them as friends who are raising a kid together. This is a real life family dynamic that I wish was explored more. In an interview, the studio talked about how the were gonna make the dads more like a "mom and dad coded couple" but decided not to. So glad they went the route they did. Much richer characters, better story, and shows a real type of family that doesn't get represented enough. Buddy Daddies rocks.
Considering that people will say "Be careful, I hear this series pulls an Usagi Drop", one could say that Usagi drop's purpose is literally to serve as a warning to others.
It's the literal "... and then they fucked" ending
@@C4H10N4O2
Let's thank the gods of manga that it wasn't an ecchi/ero manga
A DOOKIE DROP
@@swisslord2478 would still work
@@swisslord2478thank god it was just a mature manga, and not literal hentai.
I heard rumors that the anime studio deliberately chose to animate only the first part of the series because they don't like the second part. And at this point in time, no one will be asking any studios to animate Usagi Drop's full manga.
I hope a studio animates the second half.
@@joshuajefferson3504 🗿
@@joshuajefferson3504 🗿
@@joshuajefferson3504 No. And I'm a shitposter beyond most shitposters.
They made the right call.
I remember when I read Usagi Drop. I remember thinking it was one of the most real and beautiful stories of family and parenting I'd ever read-a masterpiece of storytelling that explored themes of insecurity, isolation, and fear, as well as familial bonds, personal growth, and understanding. It was one of the greatest explorations of the human condition I'd ever had the pleasure of reading.
I ended up putting the story down after the first act, citing that I wasn't a fan of the time skip, and that I could tell the story was going down a different, but still believable direction than I'd wanted (I figured Daikichi and Yukari not getting together was one of those things where it's just more believable that they'd never get romantically involved, even if I wanted them to). I knew I probably wouldn't finish the story, but was confident I'd forever remember it as one of the greats.
Words can ill express the brain shattering psychic damage I endured when I learned how the manga ended.
"It was a beautiful story about parenting. Until it wasn't."
My friend. Read Yotsubato. Yousuke Koiwai is the epitome of the word Dad and his relationship with his daughter is exactly like the one I have with my dad as a son.
@@fenixfyrehart3191 If nobody got me I know Yotsuba%! got me
can i get an amen
I remember watching a series of lectures by Brandon Sanderson on writing, one of his lessons was on setting the readers expectations for your story.
This is practically a case study in betraying that.
Exactly, subverting expectations is a fast track to failure unless you are DAMNED skilled and have a really good plan for it.
Look at The Last Jedi, it betrayed so many expectations and outright lore and character personality traits that many hated the film for doing it.
The reason because we had the Original Trilogy set our expectations for what Luke would be like as an older wiser Jedi Master and it sure as hell wasn't going from "My father may be a mass murderer, mailed fist of the Empire and traitor to the Jedi, but I sense some good in him and can turn him back" to "I had a dream my nephew could be evil one day, MUST KILL HIM!"
@ One example of a _subverted expectation_ done right would be the true nature of the protagonist, K, in *Blade Runner 2049.*
In fact, you can even make a comparison with Rey in *The Last Jedi,* since the (intended) twist for both movies is "the protagonist is NOT the chosen one".
But we've known since the previous movie that Rey IS special. Even if Rey wasn't born from an important family (which was retconned in Rise of Skywalker, lol), she still had insane powers that came out of nowhere, so her not being a Skywalker (or a Kenobi, Katarn, Palpatine, etc.) would've made no difference to the story anyways.
By contrast, K being unsure of whether he is Deckard's child or not is of massive importance to the story, and when it turns out he isn't, it makes his actions all the more impressive. He was literally a nobody, the same as any other mass production replicant, yet through his strong will and efforts was able to reunite a broken family and save their lives.
The subversion in BR2049 *_enhanced_* the story, whereas the subversion in TLJ ranges from *_irrelevant_* to *_awful_* depending on who you ask.
@@BknMoonStudios Hell they could have made Rey just....a scrappy underdog, using her wits and tech in a world of space magic. Make this literal junk trader someone who wins through grit and skill.
@@BknMoonStudios
that's a better example
first thing that came into my head is the absolute dumpster fire that is school days
the start was shit
the middle was shit
everything that lead up to the ending was shit
every single character was shit
so they just killed off the main character.
not the solution I was expecting but that also works
Usagi Drop: I can excuse a partental figure marrying their child (whom they've raised since they were in first grade), but I draw the line at marrying someone you're blood-related to.
Every Sane Individual on Earth: You can excuse a parental figure marrying their child?
Yeah its way better when blood related
@@jojobod I'm going straight to hell because I laughed
Same.
Community Moment
Even if they're not blood related,
it's called grooming, doofus. 🙄
I was huffing the copium too, when I started to see Rin’s feelings I was like “oh this half is about Rin going through puberty and struggling with who daikichi is to her as both a father figure and someone she does not see as her dad, with hormones making things worse” then the manga laughed in my face and drop kicked me
Usagi Drop Kick
@@pdp6839 And best reply goes to-
@@pdp6839 sounds like a fighting game move
The main character has daddy issue like me ... xd
Same. I was hoping that even if she doesn’t end up with Kouki - Rin would bravely go out in the world to try find something she was passionate about, but truly wanted be a mother at the end of the day. Then come home to Daikichi with a family in tow for New Years. With familial heart to heart about how she too would be a great parent because she had a great role model. Then during that New Year’s Daikichi reconnects with Yukari in her second divorce where she realized all along her heart always lay with Daikichi. This shit literally writes itself.
Identity theft is a crime and the mangaka was the victim. That's the only explanation that makes sense. The person who writes the first part of Usagi Drop CANNOT be the same person that wrote the second part. Someone got killed and replaced. Call the cops. Get them on the case, once they're done burning every copy of the manga.
The only explanation is that the author was hiding their true fantasy behind a normal story, and the success of the first part boosted their ego so much they decided to rip off the mask and go crazy.
But the editor would realize right away if the mangaka changed. The fact that even the editor allows the second half to be published is crazy.
@@esverker7018 that's a really disgusting persona, I would say.
@@whatever6455Editor got changed maybe?
@@Starofmisfortune Clearly. Probably replaced a good number of staff for it to be allowed.
Watched the anime, loved it and picked up the first two manga on a whim. Heard everyone _screaming at me to turn back now_ and went 'whelp.'
The way you've described it it really seems like it wasn't planned from the beginning and the author needed someone to slap their hands away from the drawing board.
Story went from wholesome father daughter story to grooming the future wife 💀
get reverse chris channed
That reminds of that one isekai anime, where he raised this demon girl as his kid, for only for them to end up married in the light novel. Ducking hell
@@Toaster_Rae Not an isekai but I think it's "If it's for my daughter i would even defeat a demon lord" unless you're talking about another anime
Sure that one has like 'only' a 10 year age diff between them but the title says "If it's for my daughter"
@@stephen8005 age is just a number should just be applied to adults 😭
This anime doesn't have a manga, its completely original, the story ends in the anime :)
The manga is a not related spin-off !
@@alialluaibi3008 what manga?
@@Kaika433 no bloody idea !
Exactly!
Stupid fanfics, am I right?
So this manga betrayed me twice because I loved it in middle school but then dropped it when I realized what was happening in the second half. Fast forward to me a couple years back and I see a screenshot of the manga on Twitter and I'm like oh yeah! I wonder why I never finished that manga. It was really cute right? Let me read it again. Cue shock and horror a second time, along with a sudden rush of memories from when I first abandoned the manga.
Your brain literally delete the trauma but your nostalgia betrayed yourself😂😂
12:30 I paused right at "Rin has romantic fee-" and started going like michael scott in the office "NOOOOO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO"
Tbh I had a feeling the manga would take that route the minute I heard the plot synopsis-
When you said there was a time skip and that the main guy HADN'T gotten with the other single mom my heart dropped. I KNEW what the ending was.
I could feel the moment my breathing stopped
I’m sorry that you had to go through this, if you want a good manga go read Pandora Hearts, it’s amazing and won’t betray you like this one
yup me too... my friend said it is a good slice of life anime story, but he warns me if you don't want to disappoint, please don't read the manga. i said in my hearth that it is good anime what the reason i must disappoint about this, i want to know more about the story and i read it, i think it will be sad moment or some stuff like his Daikichi mom and father die, or Daikichi sister get pregnant etc, and yup my friends was right i fucking hearth breaking read the manga to the end.......
Okay I read this before the video and I am begging god you don't mean what I think you mean
I hate when they do things like this, anime and manga tropes are the worst.
What's actually unbelievable is that the entire rest of the world of this series gaslit Daikichi into thinking it was okay when he clearly didn't want to initially
THANK GOD we didnt live in the world where the author of usagi drop becomes our creator
@@johans3164 for real...
thats fucked oh hell no nigga am out gross no cap
@@johans3164 Hope you're not christian then considering Lot get's raped by his daughters which God thinks is fine. Among other things.
@@johans3164 There wouldn't be a problem if she made it the world that way. Just because our world has different rules which are based on current popular belief does not mean every other world will be subject to them. Now excuse me while I try to forget the manga of this series does not exist. The story ended when the anime ended.
I remember once seeing a post on tumblr say it’s a major red flag to stay away from someone if they defend or like the ending of Usagi Drop and I still agree with that statement
....you mean to not stay away from someone? i think staying away from someone who likes the ending of Usagi drop is a good idea, not a red flag😭
@@darkserpent7191 Don't remember making that comment but yes I think I meant "it's a major red flag if someone defends or likes usagi drop's ending and the post creator advised to stay away from those defenders" lol
the thing that most ignore is that this manga was written by a woman. so it's not as simple as "some creepy Japanese guy's grooming fantasy." women can have some messed up fantasies too.
You mean, at the end everyone is a victim of society and their family? It doesn’t matter the genre, you can be a creep.
@@maevav5645 I think they were just saying that women can have disgusting grooming fantasies as well. I don't think they were justifying it or saying that it is any more innocent when a woman is a creep.
In fact, sometimes, out of self hatred, trauma, society's expectations, desperation to be accepted, or just pick me behavior, people will preach the same thing that goes against themselves. "Yeah women are just gold diggers, I'm a woman and I know that, good thing I'm not like that!" Is the most common example of this. There are a lot of women who genuinely believe that because society taught them that's what other women are like and being one is an embarrassment, so they got seem as different from 'most women' as possible
@@maevav5645[Insert outdated Joker movie quote here]
"Guys, did you know?!?!? WOMEN... CAN BE BAD PEOPLE!!!!?!?!?!?!?"
Slow down there Socrates, don't think *too* hard, wouldn't want to hurt your brain.
All because of Usagi Drop, I will always have a tinge of fear in the pits of my soul every time a new "reluctant man adopts a little girl" anime/manga is released...
Hope Spy x Family cured that
hopefully it will serve as a benchmark for all future authors of what not to do
Oh even higehiro did something along those lines now didnt it now that I realise sigh...
I'm reading Witch hat atelier right now and this young man in his twenties lives in a small cottage in the middle of the woods alone with 4 preteen girls who he's supposed to train in magic. Anyway the government ordered someone to be by his side to report back to them any mistreatment etc and they send another MAN! So now two young men are living in a small cottage in the middle of the woods with 4 preteen girls. Which sounds creepy right? But the thing is they act like such dads not at all what you'd expect from all those isekai or other manga you've read. It's fantastic! The series is honestly so nice so far. Qifrey is best dad, he's what the "Bruce Wayne is a good dad" tag people on ao3 want Bruce Wayne to be. I love him so much. He's like if Gojo Satoru from Jujutsu kaisen had a bit of Silvermist from Tinkerbell in him and studied child psych and gentle parenting in his spare time. This got long but whatever Witch hat atelier is super cute and also the only truly childfriendly manga I know? So far! I'm threebooks in. It's not like Naruto or other anime which are made for kids but still have sexual jokes or scenes. Which isn't bad or anything it just makes it harder to recommend them to any kids who want to know from an older cousin, friend etc what shows or books they should watch. For now I mostly just say sailor moon, card captor, ghibli etc if any kids asks but now I can actually buy them a volume of a newer manga. Anyways point is check out the series if you want to read about single dad wizard and his troublemaker students.
@@TahmidA150 at least with higehiro not only was it left open ended not only did the hero only raise her for just the last two years of her childhood he also had her return home and have her family finish raising her first before the aforementioned open ending so even though higehiro is somewhat cringeworthy it's still far better than usagi drop in many ways!!!
That is the absolute WORST ending that could have possibly happened to a series that started out so wholesome. "Fatherhood? No, no, it was grooming the entire time!"
Don't understimate the power of manga.
It can be *way worse* than that
No, it wasn't.
Yugioh Arc V manga
I mean she fell in love with him. Dude kinda just went with it
Manga was written by a woman if that put some people at ease.
This manga will forever be Infamous. Lol
@@halkun7191 how does it being written by a woman put ANYONE at ease 😭
This story suffers from the artists fetish. In the first half its realistic, the characters, the home, the advice, it felt real. But real people would be disgusted by this, which is why they cant act like real people anymore, they can only appeal to the artists wants otherwise it wouldnt work. Horrible
Debatable
Should consider the mentality of people around that time and place
@@mrgenry6055 I'm more talking about rational responses to scenarios, like going out with the man who took you in, was meant to be your family, and has a ten year age difference. Most people would say SOMETHING about it but everyone in the story accepts it or says nothing at all. That's unrealistic. It's like in fanfic when everyone agrees with the main character because the author said so. It's weak writing to try and get your message across.
@@mrgenry6055my man, people in japan considered that gross
You know the author's a woman, right?
@@mrgenry6055 People can be wrong even when they believe they are right and should still be judged for being wrong.
What's your opinion on the Atlantic slave trade? The country of Germany in the 1930's? The various dictators that have commited genocide over the last 5 years? You should make sure to consider the mentality of the people around that time and place before you answer, of course.
This Manga didn't just betray it's reader, it also put asterisk on every child raising stories that is not completed.
The reason why the whole "raise a little girl to adulthood and then have marries with her" is so prevalent in Japanese fiction is because it is part of Tales of Genji.Which is like THE origin of all Japanese fiction and continues to be taught in schools to this day. It's like the most extreme version of grooming, he totally kidnaps Murasaki, raises her to be his ideal wife. and once things don't work out with the woman he wants, he marries her.
I know the second part is bad, but you know that's not how it happened.
Tales if Genji themselves are about sexual life in aristocracy, elegant but perverted. They're basically classic p0rn
@@hafirenggayuda ah, the mythical hentai with a plot
And then you find out that it was written by a woman!
@@kingkapybara9964 So were Twilight, 50-Shades of Grey and the majority of whole "Romance Novel" sections at every bookstore that involve men kidnapping, controlling, raping and gas-lightning women presented as though it were positive.
The anime was a 10/10 masterpiece, they even hired and directed actual kid actors to potray kids in the anime. It feels grounded, realistic, heartwarming and also gutwrenching. The pallete colours were really awesome. It was a (near) perfect family drama.
And, we dont talk about the manga
kid actors? That's not somethin you see in (western or eastern) animation very often.
@@stefanofeblesverastegui8869 Only other examples I can remember were Boo in Monsters Inc. and young Nico Robin in a One Piece flashback. If you were to extend kid actors to juveniles, then there are quite a lot of voice actors in the age range of 10-17
@@juannaym8488 The VAs for the younger kids in Barakamon were kids themselves, iirc.
also Ike from south park@@juannaym8488
@@Sandwhaler I really enjoyed Barakamon. It felt so real with them having actual child actors for those characters, but then again, the themes in that show were supposed to be very grounded and emotional, so it sort of would make sense that a smart casting director would do something like that.
Gotta be honest, though, her character stole the show.
This series ending is the embodiment of the meme of when your credit card is declined when going to a psychiatrist.
You know it’s bad when on Rin’s wiki page Daikichi is listed as *’Nephew/Adopted Father/Husband’*
Also the implication that Rin intends to commit incest with her and Daikichi’s child is HORRIFYING
It is not biological incest but I got your point. Perhaps the author was exploring some twisted pornhub fantasy.
Wiki? That shit is run by fans, so nothing is official there smoothbrain fk. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
exactly its like she's saying "I'll groom our child like you groomed me"
Rin intends to what? 😀
@@mrkumatoni at one point near the end she says ‘I hope I can make our child as happy as you’ve made me’ which HEAVILY implies that she’s going to groom them into a relationship, because at this point she sees her ‘father’ as a sexual and romantic partner
I actually read this series in middle school, because the first part was available in my public library. the first volume of the second part was available, but none of the others were. I'm starting to realize that might've been deliberate.
Whoever had made all the others publicly available was reading along and knew the tea. They saved you.
Based librarian
I read every volume in the public library of Geneva when I was little.
It's in the kid section.
Or that someone borrowed them
@@infoniwceniocwdhvredidhave8126 No such thing as an un based librarian
You know, there was this manga of a boy who was attracted to his own mother that I remember seeing once. He had obsessive thoughts about her at times, even. Yet, in that story? He is pretty upset about having that irrational attraction and the story actually delved into the psychology of why he felt so obsessed in that way. It ended with him growing past those thoughts and learning to actually love her as a parent, finding someone his own age to date and grow up with instead. It was a trippy but interesting and surprisingly wholesome experience that held the misleading tagline "Boy is in love with his mother". It had taboo, uncomfy topics that were resolved to instead be a sort of case study about relationships and how people view one another. In a better world, Usagi drop could have been like that as well; Exploring the confused and easily-influenced feelings of a young woman growing up with someone who basically walked miles over hot coals to take care of her. Of those thoughts and feelings that are invasive but controlling and the way that they could be overcome by parental responsibility and the discovery of a growing woman's identity.
But this is our reality and we got this, instead.
Someone should remake part 2 of this, either with this story line or the alternative one suggested in the video where the romance happens between Rin and Koki and between both their parents respectively. Or literally anything else other than the original
You mean the video from hazel
This was the same one who made mystery girlfriend x. The writer is a woman. Shit was an amazing read.
What’s the name of this manga you’re talking about?
@@vltraviolence7640Ueshiba Riichi is a man in his 50's actually lmao
Holy hell, that is harsh, and explains why the Anime ends in part 1 implying the mc will end up with Yukari.
As someone with an adopted daughter when I read this, the ending made me fucking sick to my core.
To be honest when I read comments like these (and please don't take it personally, my goal is just to provide a perspective on what people like me think, it's not an accusation) I always think the adopted parent as done some something wrong or is hiding something. Personally I feel if someone had nothing to hide or fear, they would simply take the story at face value, which isn't really that shocking or upsetting considering it is a story where the man was a true father and not a groomer.
While I can understand how this story could shock or enter into grooming conversation territory, we do get (almost, besides the timeskip) the full story. There is no grooming going on in this manga, so I would have to put myself in the characters shoes (using this little thing we call empathy) for both and try to imagine if I had these feeling, how would I act and why. Sometimes we have these preconceived notions that we limit ourselves to think without regarding others feelings on the matter. This is one of those stories that pushes does limits beyond comfort, and if you are uncomfortable then that is totally normal.
If it's about consanguinity, the story breaks that explicitly. Power dynamics? We are told the story from both characters perspectives, we see them not abusing their power dynamics in any situation, so we can cross that out. So what is the thing holding people back from this type of romance, I wonder?
@@ShepardCommander so basically you believe the author and don't mind the ending because it's "fine"?
@@GinsuSher Read what I wrote.
@@ShepardCommander "okay hear me out, I am not a ped0, BUT..." this is how you sound like trying to defend this garbage of a writing and going even further, accusing OTHER people in having some "bad" thoughts?... Wtf is wrong with you... like, seriously, you sound like a complete psychopath, guessing "other have something to hide" while adressing someone being uncomfortable while reading that. You are literally given a full story, where A MIDDLE AGE MAN adopts A LITTLE GIRL who later becomes HIS WIFE. In fact, it's HER decision and the guy just goes along with it. Now do me a favor, reverse the genders. Is this still cute?
No. Spoiler: never was in the first place...
@@ShepardCommander I did. and despite your "disclaimer", I still think you are wrong. I did not say he was a groomer, you did that. The mere fact that Daikichi even entertains the notion of "going" out with his adopted child is still disgusting.
Wonder all you want. You thinking Daikichi actions "might" be acceptable makes me concerned for all the girls within your vicinity.
The thing is, they pulled the forbidden card after all those wholesome chapters. They quite literally trapped you by luring you in and having you commit because after all those chapters.
Almost like a metaphor for grooming, isn't it? You're conditioned and manipulated into a relationship, normalising an inappropriate form of intimacy, and eventually coerced to accept its 'natural' conclusion. Perhaps even the author was unwittingly seduced by their own fantasy of perfectly arranged love, in which case I genuinely hope they've awoken to its consequences.
@@hautakleightontam771 wow, I never made the connection through my disgust, disappointment and anger 😂
@@hautakleightontam771 Children grooming adults. Now, that's a novel concept.
@@prvtthd401
It doesn't trap you, more like you're in a moldy cave with rats, you're disgusted but curious. You can always turn back and leave the cave but you decide to explore it.
what do you mean, the ending is quite good
"Before it wasn't a sacrifice because he loved his child now it wasn't a sacrifice because he gets to make love to his child". I feel you man I'm gonna be sick too
Oh no, it's almost like, it's not his child!
@@Plsrateeight Ok groomer
average groomer commenter:@@Plsrateeight
@@Plsrateeight groomer
@@Plsrateeight groomer self report is crazy
I literally remember watching this anime in middle school and enjoying it so much because it was so wholesome to me. I ended up googling what the ending was because I was curious yk! And then finding out that she confessed to him and they even got together in the end made my heart drop to my ass I was all like 'no wayyy'. Ever since then I've been like super cautious over stories like this ;;;
I finally watched the last ep after a year of delay as I didn’t want it to end. It’s a beautiful, wholesome little show that warmed my heart. I’ve heard the ending was bad, but I always thought it meant Rin was given to her mother in the end which does seem like a betrayal. I never would’ve thought it meant grooming and incest. How disgusting.
There is no incest since Daikichi was stated in the manga (and the video) not to be related to Rin. And grooming is the INTENTIONAL raising of a child in preparation for a romantic/physical relationship. Daikichi never intends for this to happen. Not saying no is very different from raising young Rin with an intention to prepare her for a physical/romantic relationship.
@franksmith9725 it's still incredibly fucked up. The relationship between a parent and child is fundamentally imbalanced and CANNOT be transferred into a lover's relationship. A parent has such a large part in forming the character of a child that any relationship between the two would be horrifically imbalanced emotionally.
@@franksmith9725 I hope you understand how bad it makes you look to defend this shit.
@@LogOffAlready So you're just saying adults are incapable of making their own decisions in regards to personal relationships.
@AlX-Ander I'm saying that no matter their intentions, any relationship that a guardian has with their child will not be able to escape its origin as a dependent-caretaker one. (If you're interested, check out "The Lived Experience of Codependency: an Interpretative Phenomenological Analysis" for a study and "Codependency: Are You Caretaking Or Caregiving?" for a basic primer) A romantic relationship with those grounds will be uneven in both support and power. Rin isn't emotionally experienced enough to provide support to Daikichi and Daikichi isn't experienced with treating Rin as an equal. There's no good way for that relationship to turn out.
You have no idea *how much* I hoped the story was just trying to use Rin's crush as another way of exploring an aspect of adopting an older child; letting us see her confusion, grow to really understand the different types of love there are, and move on for her to end of dating someone else. Someone where the reader can see similarities to Daikichi, but Rin tells us about all the ways their different and she liked him for that.
Exactly, oh my god! When I first heard of this ending that was exactly what I thought. It could've been a very interesting premise to deal with the more obtuse things that are only relevant once you start having a character who's not a little kid anymore. Adolescents go through all these kinds of emotions, and an adolescent in a unique situation like hers ought to display certain moments or phases that are going to be interesting to see from an outsider's perspective. That premise of her developing feelings for Daikichi could've been another very immersive part of the story, because she'd learn how to deal with those feelings, she'd learn how to express her love for Daikichi in a more significant but still mature manner, and she'd be once again better set for the next parts of her life - thanks to Daikichi.
But then to have Daikichi just 'accept' what's effectively a proposal from a kid he knows has had a rough time is either A. the most batshit crazy 'lazy' ending ever made, or B. a really really sad missed opportunity to continue the story forward and to allow us to see another dimension to their relationship as father-and-daughter, and to see Rin as a more central character as she explores more of her unique feelings as she becomes a developed individual and adult. It could've been like the transition from Denji to Asa in Chainsaw Man where Asa starts to take on the role of the main character - giving us more dimensions by which to see their world by, and so that we could start discovering who Rin becomes. Unfortunately they kept the horndog part of CSM instead.
@@hamingnu6610I like how the author trolled you cry babies
@@Plsrateeight Honestly, the only alternative there is might be to write fanfiction of this thing, except for the first time in forever, the fanfiction will be more wholesome than the source material.
@@hamingnu6610 The creator did it just to troll people from what I remember reading, what a damn legend if true.
@@Plsrateeighti dont rlly care all that much about this slice of life shit but idk how it makes him a legend to ruin his name by fucking up his work lol
also bro could of rlly just said that to cope ngl "yeah i wrote this hot ass not cause it was my fetish but i was just trollin"
They literally could have had her like him as an attachment disorder porblem and had daikichi gently navigate the manifestations of her attachement trauma as she forms identity adolescence
This sounds like the interesting second arc from an alternate universe that we should’ve gotten
@@Canadadiasis proof that this is the worst timeline
@@PichuElric This is the moment when we need a B world just like in Steins Gate
@@Canadadiasis Its made in japan ofcourse something would be weird about it.
@@dumbassdude8372 fam has war trauma
You know it's really fucked up when even a dark and violent manga like Berserk handles a similar situation between Guts and Schierke a million times better.
Yeah, cuz Berserk isn't written by a bad person.
The same manga that has naked underage characters? oh yeah, totally.
@@Peasham + Seinen stories like Berserk are known for wielding some deep moral ideas and usually good teachings even if they hold gruesome or disturbing illustrations within them, ironically making for a perfect opposite against the "fluff, slice-of-life" manga with a terrible, disgusting idea behind it's creation.
This anime was always one of my favorites I cried for hours after learning about the second half. This was the anime that my uncle watched with me to learn to read. He would pause every line so that I could read it out loud. We did it every week when it came out.
It's worth noting that one of the oldest novel, and the most famous work of Japanese literature, The Tale of Genji, specifically includes a storyline that's just "Hey, what if you raised a child to be your wife? Wouldn't that be fucked up and evil?"
was it actually portrayed there as wrong?
@@adzi6164kind of, it wasn't explicitly condemned but it fell in line w Genjis pattern of hurting others for his own desperation for love
@@adzi6164 It's unfortunately not clear cut whether the story / the author wants to portray Genji's actions towards Murasaki as clearly morally wrong or if those actions were considered okay at the time. I've seen about as many intepretations that frame it as "Clearly the novel frames this as wrong" as I've seen interpretations going "Clearly this is one of the greatest love stories of all time."
Regardless of what the actual intent is, the Tale of Genji is part of standard Japanese literature study in schools, so every single Japanese kid will be somewhat familiar with the story. And for a full tinfoil hat theory of mine, I think that being exposed to this story in literature class can explain a lot of the weird way Japanese media portray romance between basically relatives, be they cousins or non-blood related adoptive family.
@@BobTheArchmage It's rare to find ancient stories that have that kind of overt moral message with the exception of religious texts, so I can understand the ambiguity. Ideology as an individual component of one's personality was not quite a thing in mainstream society until the 18th century.
Considering Genji decides 'her little brother is fine too' when the court lady he's arrived to bang isn't there, I feel like you might have misinterpreted the authorial intent regarding relationships and morality.
I think it would be more interesting if his daughter stuck around not because she wants to marry him, but because she’s scared of leaving him in his old age and wants to return the favor since he took her in when no else wanted to and how this causes problems with her romantic relationship rather than
“I want to marry my dad don’t worry we’re not blood related!
It could also be about him letting his child go.
this is the only canon ending for me
Im glad people share this same personal headcanon.
No matter how degenerate I'd become, I will always lamented on Usagi Drop went sour.
You should rewrite the 2nd part of usagi drop
@@persephonepomegranate9652 Nah the ending as is seems good to me.
Adopt a girl and (later) get a good wife. Seems like a good life. As long as she is happy.
@@xxXXRAPXXxx Found the pedophile
Just started watching this video. This guy isn't the step dad, he's the dad that stepped up
at the 13 minute mark, whaaaat.
Can he step down now?
@@airyyyyyyyyif he stepped down that would be the worse outcome ☠️
can he explode@@mythos6308
hilarious fuckin comment
Woody Allen would love this manga
I hate myself for how much I laughed at this. It's funny because it's horrible and true.
his favorite manga probably
Ugh
Literally just binged the entire anime today, because I was feeling depressed and wanted something wholesome to cheer me up. Watched it and loved it, so I went to YT to see what other people thought of it... and here we are. What a manipulative gut punch to put readers through this mess.
Lmao i know right!! I watched it and was hungry for more content so as usual after I watch anime I searched the manga. Woo boy...
There is a reason the anime ended where it end. And for once, anime > manga.
oof. That's rough buddy.
Yep that’s why I always tell people to only watch the anime but to never read the manga on this one
@@kaylab.7661 Just telling them to not read the manga might encourage them to check it out agshdjd
Before reading usagi drops, i always said that "if the journey is good, even if the ending is bad, i can accept it". This manga made me stop thinking this.
XD
For it was GoT HBO series but yeah, usagi drop also apply.
GoT is testament that even if you start strong and have great story, you still need actual good ending.
The Mist(movie) is also testament that an ending can elevate the story.
This is why I sometimes spoil myself first. To make sure there's no funny business bamboozling me at the end. Far too many times I've seen this with a series that I've been left on a cliffhanger. When I return I check if it didn't turn out into a trainwreck (like the character personalities and actions turning 180).
Often times I'll be left with the feeling that this could've been much more had this author focused on this and that or tidn't rush it. (looking at you "The Devil is a Part-timer"
It's their story and prerogative but maaaann why you had to go there my dude?
@@meh.96 the ending is everything for me now, for example look how Blizzard butchered wow history line with their last 2 expansion's, their writing is utterly garbage.
Kids that have had an unstable life are unable sometimes to differentiate different types of love. I’m so glad I never got involved with this manga because the fact that that is the ending is disgusting. Bro really turned a wholesome father daughter relationship into pedophilia and incest
it was written by a woman, a woman with some very aperient daddy issues
I remember dropping it after only a handfull of chapters because I saw the red flags
I am so tired of "Dad" manga's with the trope a girl half the protagonist age falling in love with him that I didn't even feel like giving the writer the benefit of the doubt
All i can think of is “what was the author imagining during these scenes?” What kind of things were they thinking in the scenes we felt were heartwarming? Did they see that as development twords the ending? The best possibility is that they actually did pull this out of their ass and that they didn’t intend it from the start.
She has a older man fetish, most women have that. The woman who did Ristorante Paradiso manga also had a older man fetish as most of waiters and the chefs are in their late 30s-40s. It was reported she was dating an older Italian man when she was just 18
@@randomdude9217 I wouldn’t say most women do, its more that socially its seen that women “lose value” with age and men “gain value” making it “socially acceptable” to old people that a 40 year old dude dates exclusively 20 year old women (looking at you Leonardo decaprio). Women think that the older they are then maybe they’ll act mature or something.
I think its pretty sad. And the men are creepy
@@randomdude9217 tell me you have never touched a boob in your life without telling me you have never touched a boob in your life
@@beelzemobabbityI think Random Dude might mean that most women in Japan have that fetish, since that's where this is written. I... can neither confirm nor deny the validity of that statement, since it very well could be true for all we know. It's Japan after all.
@@beelzemobabbity i mean its true tho a womens prime ends when a mans prime begins the age 30
It sucks that the first part is one of the best found family tropes out there. It told a great story, showing off all the struggles of suddenly having a child. Rin was refreshing, she was different from all the other children characters out there. She wasn't just there for cute overwhelmingly positive kid, she had real thought put behind her.
For real, there aren't a lot of manga that actually show kids acting like kids, they always have the maturity of someone 10 years older or more
It was so well thought out, and I cried a little because I was happy to finally see a daughter-father relationship presented so well, especially an adoptive one. It reminded me of a lot of times with my own parents and it made me happy. I enjoyed the anime a lot and I kept reading comments hinting at something horrible happening in the manga. It definitely spoiled those enjoyable moments as well. Like this was in the back of your mind when writing this about a daughter? that's so fucked up and disgusting
I found a copy of this at my local library and couldn't remember where I had seen the art and story from and then I remembered that it's from this video! Didn't get the book from the library because I felt uncomfortable when I remembered.
Never seen this before but your review is really good. Great delivery
What god level foreshadowing that the second half of the title predicted how readers by the second half of the story would drop this manga
Definitely.
First part : Usagi -> rabbit -> fluff
Drop : we're all dropping it.
@kuro saigatsu who tf cares tho
@@aetherxsn1591 Stupid question isn't it?
@kuro saigatsu That's some god-level bullshit you're spewing rn, disrespectfully
@@kurosaigatsu9557 isn't that how life is, no matter how good something is there's always some bs to it its really 2 sides of a coin
The first red flag was when Rin refused to take Dakichi's surname. Not weird on its own, but looking back its a lot more sinister.
Why is that?
@@brigittahegarini7162 cause then it wouldnt be as weird "ideally" with different last names to get together when older
@@Kakashi42069 almost as if the writer was planning it from the start and dropped subtle hints that this was going to happen
@@Kakashi42069 cousin love and non blood related siblings don't mind having the same surname
I crackled like an evil witch when I started seeing the hints. It was like a slow motion train wreck where I was reading and thinking "Okay. Is it going to hit the breaks or not?"
It didn't and cracked up. Truly the best worst endings I've ever seen.
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The fact that the mangaka along with their editors made the readers think that it is a wholesome manga yet at the same time dropping several hints of the wrongdoings at the first half and then bamboozling the readers starting from the second half makes the Satan himself being a prominent fan of their work.
Funny thing is that Satan actually consulted God before ever doing his despicable actions... So I do not think he'd be a fan of this kind of bait-and-switch evil. This fact aside, the way he deceives people and makes them do bad things is by telling that the bad thing will actually be good, with no subtlety to his words. He doesn't hide shit. At the end of the day, Satan is just another lackey of God (which opens a whole other can of worms, but enough of this). So they're worse than Satan, because they promised something, hiding sus shit very subtly and then betraying us in the end (also, according to Dante Alighieri, betrayal is the worst sin you can ever commit. It's in the deepest level of hell). Let that sink in.
@@ravaniphoenix5431 I apologize for that. It seems like I have underestimated my knowledge capabilities. Than you dear Ravani for enlighten me with such great knowledge. This is a genuine comment if anyone's wondering.
@@Kujo_Saitama what did the other person say?? They deleted their comment
Eye man don’t do satan like that
@@frozenburrit053 If you're referring to me... I didn't. Seems like a CZcams bug where comments are just disappearing, even though they're still there. Can you see this one? I can see my reply, but looks like you can't.
The gross foreshadowing of the grandpa father with the young mother. It was right there since the beginning
and people never saw it coming from that as a foreshadowing.
@@Otoshi_Gami when i first watched it i was like huh thats an uncomfortable fact but at least the old man is dead so i dont have to see more of that. Little did small pea brained me knew that was foreshadowing
OH SHIT HOW DID I MISS THAT
omgg i toltally forgot about that
Every. God. Damn. Time I see a new family manga or a family centric dynamic, I can't even see them at face value anymore, I just have to randomly reminded of Usagi Drop at the back of my hand.
This video is just me staring at the screen, with the digital circus music slowly getting louder and louder as the story gets explained.
That's wild. I remember Usagi drop was everywhere when I was a kid. Literally everyone recommended it and talked about it nonstop. Every time i looked for a new manga this would always be on the top ten list. One day, everyone freaked out all at once, and then silence ever since. Wild stuff. This 100% could've been a modern classic from praise it got back in the day.
Probably because they were talking about the anime. It's adaptation was pretty fucking popular.
(I was there too and I have heard about the anime, not the manga)
Like thousands of voices cried out in terror and were silenced....
Damn, what a major catastrophe this manga made.
@@internetjerk2839now you’ve made me imagine Alderaan as the innocence and wholesomeness of Usagi Drop, the Death Star/Tarkin as the author and the laser as “Dad x adopted daughter”…
Just like Game Of Thrones, I would say.
The entire time he was exposing the “Wife Husbandry” part I was just repeating to myself it “it should’ve ended at the child arc, IT SHOULD’VE ENDED AT THE CHILD ARC!” [Edit: Thanks for all the likes but JEEZ this has become an entire thread!]
then why don't you just end reading at that point? It is not like there is anything to continue or worth reading past that point unless you are going that route. Otherwise plain tragedy where she finds a boyfriend marries moves to another city and our former bachelor is left all alone in his room in the same pose as he started but just 20 years later lonely and forgotten.
@@deltaxcd yes but the fact it exists in the first place is just wrong. Even if you stop at the child arc.
@@micahsheppa1434 How it can be wrong just because it exists? If you dislike it treat is as some kind of tragedy or trolling other people may think that it is the best ending ever.
there si same situation with Madoka Magica anime where quite a lot of people are whining that it did not end the way they wanted even if in my opinion it is excellent ending which pretty much put a middle finger to the face of conservative society indoctrinated by captain america and other superhero comics.
@@deltaxcd I get what you’re saying but I think you are reading to much into it. Where I live, wife husbandry is illegal. We just both have different opinions on the ending.
@@micahsheppa1434 Thats just another reason why it is good ending because law is nothing else that oppressive system it is very nice to do wrong things at least in fantasy because you can't do it in reality. :) I love when heroes break law like Gokudo anime
I remember seeing the cover of this when it first came out and hearing what it was about and how much people love it iand thinking "Idon't trust it" just knowing japan and anime in general
me before this video "how bad can this be, the internet sure do love to exaggerate things"
me after this video "...oh"
i like how this whole masterfully crafted story is just an excuse for i n c e s t
Groomers: The Anime
therse alot more storys like this and i really hate this shit ngl
@@johans3164 yes 10000% anime be gross like that no cap 😡🤮
@@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 tbh same, this crap makes me angry
Inseki, actually. Incest is blood related, inseki is not blood related
Never heard of this story before
The first half seemed great! Second half hit me in the head with a golf club
watch the anime, it is wholesome, adorable, a great story and pretend that the manga and its especialy its later parts never existed
@@arianewinter4266 And especially don't watch the live action movie. They include the Manga ending.
Basically TLOU in a nutshell
@@spencerm5663 They made a movie?!
@@spencerm5663 never watch live action movies in generell, I know one that's OK and the rest we here utter bs
Thanks for the review, you've saved me from randomly finding it and reading it thinking it's and adorable story
The sad thing abt this story was that the author had an opportunity to speak AGAINST grooming. I’m all for making Daikichi the bad guy is that means we can educate and speak against this horrid thing.
Either way, this became a horror story anyway; because at the end we see Rin, who we watch grow up, get sucked into an abusive relationship. I don’t care how “good” Daikichi treats her- this. Is. Abuse.
1) Grooming is intentionally raising someone for a purpose (in this case starting a romatic/physical relationship). Daikichi never intends for this. He does accept it in the end, but in the end is not the same as raising Rin in preparation for starting a romantic/physical relationship with her, which is 'grooming'.
2) " I don’t care how “good” Daikichi treats her- this. Is. Abuse.". This is just untrue.
Abuse as defined by the UN is "is physical, sexual, emotional, economic or psychological actions or threats of actions that influence another person. This includes any behaviors that frighten, intimidate, terrorize, manipulate, hurt, humiliate, blame, injure, or wound someone.".
If Daikichi does not threaten or try to influence/manipulate Rin in any way, which he never did throughout the entire course of the manga, there is no abuse.
The story might not potray it as "grooming", but its certainky a grooming apologia
Its kinda like those "she's actually 500 years old despite looks and acts like a kid", but worse. Way worse.
It doesnt matter that daikichi didnt intend to have romantic relationship with her. The author is trying to justify someone having a romantic relatioship with their own daughter, thats messed up
@@bimasetyaputra8381 Yeah I agree with you the author is trying to justify having a romantic relationship with their own daughter. My comment wasnt trying to support the author. I'm just clarifying what grooming and abuse is, because people tend to throw these words around a lot without knowing what they actually mean.
I've never had a dad. So when I read this as a kid I loved it and felt so much comfort from it. Until the last half. It broke me. 13 yr old me didn't know what to think of it.
if I had read this as a kid it would have just been another piece of media that "confirmed" that my grooming was acceptable and okay. Talk about brain damage.
This is so true. Its so damaging. Not to mention ruining a loving story for twisted gratification.
oh you poor bastard
I'm genuinely sorry for you. I hope you're doing a bit better now that time has passed.
I’m truly sorry you had that experience at such a young age. I can’t imaging reading this from that perspective, and even more so if you happened to be a young person abused by their father/father figure. Can you imagine being groomed as a child IRL, then reading this and thinking that it’s normal and encouraged?? Man I REALLY hate this manga author.
the thing that gets me about these types of stories where all the characters excuse and forgive the behavior of the main character, it really makes you wonder why there is not a SINGLE person pointing out this disgusting dynamic. really makes you wonder why the author would only have people approve of their relationship…
There is a korean webtoon called "i dont want that kind of hero" that actually does that:
Superheroes are a thing, as well as demons. Demons are mostly just there old grandpas with absurd powers and they dont have the "your soul thing".
Well there is this one demon that has a relationship with its contractor, and the demons are ok with that but then when he says that they met "when i was her grandpa contractor and helped raise her" they IMEDIATLY throw shit at him, because GETTING ROMANTICALLY INVOLVED WITH SOMEONE YOU RAISED IS JUST BAD.
@@scenel-9066 Imagine trying to compare a consensual relationship to abuse of someone who can't consent
The English title is actually "I don't want this kind of hero". And I didn't expect to see it mentioned here! It was pretty funny how the demons were trashing on him as soon as he revealed that
@@abigaildiamante9096 ikr lmao. Totally unexpected mention, but a very welcome one. Bless old demons and their moral compass lmao
Literally, the author just avoided all moral dilemmas because they didn't want to confront it. 🙃 In a sane world, no one would've been ok with it
I fully planned to read this after watching only half this video a while back. So glad I came to finish this video first.
Well, that went south quickly! This video was a fever dream, even though it surely didn't go as far into detail about the story as the manga itself did.
I have never heard of this series before and even I feel betrayed. Can't imagine how it must've been for the readers when it came out.
Same
The anime is just the first part of the manga, so a lot of people got into the manga through the anime. Thinking about what a wholesome thing they just watched and how they wanted to see more of that.
I didn't read it on release but I read it during HS. I felt angry at how the story turned out. I dropped it and spit on it when talking about it with friends.
It was a full gut punch lol
I had been keeping up with the chapters as they came out and it just felt worse and worse during each wait once the turn happened 💀
@RUNOTENTERTAIN Chu Not liking incest isn't western views my guy.
I'll never forget how good I felt after finishing the anime... And then 2 of my friends told me about what happens during the 2nd part. I really thought they were trolling me at first...Now I live in constant fear of wholesome anime/manga.
In a world where genders, sexes, races and even orientations are changed when moving through media, we can make our own headcanon much better than the author intended. The realm of imagination awaits
@@khaimk4r4su it's will never be the same
Our favorite things can't stick the landing. And if it did, it probably fumbled the fuck out of the middle.
Just don't think about how sus the fruit basket relationships are. Just don't
The Anime is the true canon. It end where it need to. The manga is just a mirage, an illusion,a bad fanfiction, it doesn't exist, especially the last chapter.
the ending was so bad it indused wholesomeMangaPhobia
I watched Usagi Drop when it first it came out, and as everyone I thought it was adorable. But I don't remember well why but somewhere along the way I got The Vibe that something was not right so I googled the spoilers, dropped down the score for anime too and never thought about it again until I came across this video. thoughts and prayers though, no one deserved this manga happening to them
went from the anime to the manga and this was definitely the biggest WTF in all my years reading manga. I read this as a teenager, and it still shocks me. I cannot fathom how they thought this was going to be a good idea.
Things happen, thats not even close to what can happen irl
Don't call the show bad, just learn the lessons and move on
Guy did good enough job on raising his daughter
Having romantical senses to the mother/father figure often happens to children too
But he didn't know how to deal with it properly so it ended as ended. That's all. I think shit storm is absolutely undeserved
@@mrgenry6055 I actually think the anime in particular was very good. It's one of my favorites in the genre. The first part of the manga is very well done as well. It's only the second part that throws me for a loop, because I do actually agree with what you said. Kids oftenhave crushes on adults, and MC not knowing what to do in that situation is quite realistic. It's the ending that pisses people off I think, since it had so much potential, both as a family manga and a romance manga. the problem lies in the combination of the two within a family dynamic. but yes, if you only consider the anime definitely top tier.
@@mrgenry6055 yk japan has many issues of teen girls running away from home because of their father and my Japanese friend is one of them 💀
"I want to bear a child. Daikichi's. Then, you see... I'll definitely make that child happy. Just like me."
This was fucking chilling. Not just saying she wanted to have a child by her father figure, but implying that she would then have a physical relationship with that child just as Daikichi has with her.
Ugggghhh, that implication made it so much worse!
WAIT. WAIT. WTF!
God damn, why you gotta make this so much worse like that 😂😂😂😂
I interpreted it differently, not like a groomer-cycle kind of situation, but moreso like Rin wanted to raise this child to be happy just as Daikichi raised her to be happy. still fucked up, but a little less fucked up
Wow, how can you interpreted that badly lol, your thoughts got filled so much degeneracy.
Rin was in dark place when Daikichi adopter her, remember she was a child of the grandfather and other relatives what not are having problems with her or don't want take of her and ya know how bad stigma are for Asians etc, then Daikichi came and save her pretty much and gave her a happy life and that's how she fell in love with him, yes i knew when reading it the author was going for it.
That phrase is simple, Daikichi saved her and made her happy, and she's in love with him and wants his child and she wants to raise that child to be Happy as her, not implying she's making her child the same as her, she just wants her child to be raised properly & happy as Daikichi as he done for her.
Actually alot people are saying its grooming not once i have ever thought it was lol, Daikichi not once ever tried to coerce anything perverted or thoughts making her a bride or something but whenever you try to look at Rin it was pretty much clear it was her who wants to be with him, since the early chapters their were ton of signs she has feelings for him.
People are forgetting that were once have a first love when were children, like look at the French PM or was it Trudeau idk? marrying his elementary? school teacher lol, not only most of the time when were trying to find our own partner we want to them to be has same values etc as our parents what not.
Not trying to justify its normal but try to understand it perspective of the chars. not just the overall story,plot etc of series itself etc plus once in a while having a series with a not normal ending is good in my opinion and besides people should stop trying to make fiction story to be reality comparing etc etc just enjoy it for what it is.
The worst part of the series is that it has forever tainted the perception of all future manga/anime about single dads. I remember seeing comments about both Sweetness & Lightning and Kakushigoto from people afraid of those series ending up like Usagi Drop. At least Yotsuba&! still exists as a palette cleanser.
I remember when Spy × Family first aired, people were worried/accusing that the main dad character was going to act sexual towards Anya. After hearing about this Manga I can see why the entire anime community has trust issues about found family anime, especially if the found family involves a young elementary school girl
The "For my daughter ill defeat the demon lord" is just fantasy usagi drop.
@@lxi.. I think that the closest it got to it was in the 6th or 5th chapter where anya's friend is trying to find a dress to seduce loid and one of her dresses that is similar to that of yuri's is described as sexy as well the government official that kept a secret vault filled with pictures of young girls which he kept for the future
@@lxi.. same. I was absolutely disgusted when people even thought of such a thing on something as wholesome as Spy x Fam but then I realized mangas like this have such a terrible history and dads had a bad bad reputation because of Usagi Drop. Moreso, it was really popular for being wholesome and then the ending... Made it even worse ugh
@@serenepogi No... please don't tell me that story did the same thing.
I really like the fact that part 2 of this video starts exactly in the middle of it to the second.
I picked this one up but before I got too far into the story I recognized the name and art style and remembered your video. Thanks you for saving me.
Lowart I made a bad choice. I watched the first half-ish of this video, and thought to myself if this sounds like a delightful read. So I read it, and went through the exact experiences you described in the second half of this video. Never have I felt so foolish for not having finished a CZcams video.
this made me laugh I'm sorry
The title: the manga that betrayed us all
You: that sounds like a safe read!!
Congratulations you played yourself
Same...
you played a stupid game, you won a stupid price, congrats
If I hadn't gone into the comments from the start of the video, I might have done the same thing. Cause it seems so cute and wholesome! And then -horror-.
Usagi Drop is the reason I have trust issues with father-daughter storylines. the 10yr timeskip was such a slap to the face. And like you said it really got into parenting. It is so weird how often I find a forum bringing up Usagi Drop (mainly mangas or novels about father-daughter stories) and there will be one person who is like "I loved it! i saw it coming the whole time Rin was a real mature kid and never saw Daikichi as her father so it's ok" and I just think about the bed wetting storyline and the shared bathing, the buying children school supplies, clothes, undies, setting up playdates with other children, all the sacrifices Daikichi made as a legal guardian for what was best for Rin and I think THE WHOLE TIME!!! It just so infuriating. Its just grooming. I just spent so much time reading a story about a man who fell in love with his daughter (blood or not) He immediately married her out of highschool! She doesn't even need to move into his house since she has been living with him since she was 6!
Are their kids going to look back at old photo albums and ask why they are no photos of grandpa and Rin will be like "Oh Grandpa died when I was 6 your dad raised me!"
Is Daikichi going to bring up remembering their mom every time some paternal moment happens since that was the beginning of his relationship with Rin?
"You lost your tooth...oh I remember collecting your mother's baby teeth"
"oh you wet the bed! I remember cleaning up after your mother after her accidents when she was young!"
"I remember when your mom was a too cool kid to hug me when she was a grade-schooler"
Like there are age gap romances and then there is just -I was the legal guardian of my spouse.
idk if you're already watching or reading it since it's really popular, but you can trust spy family's father daughter relationship. that one is safe :)))
@@andreaisnthere I caught a really great rec for SpyXFamily that promised it was cute found family story and I am so glad I did for it's like one of my favorite manga/anime now! 🥰 SpyXFamily is like my hero for saving father-daughter stories
I don't really know if you've read this, but you should try kakushigoto! it's about a single father who tries to hide the fact he's a mangaka from his daughter, it's really cute and the ending made me cry 🥲
You can trust Yotsuba&. It’s an long running series about an single father adopting an young girl. It’s still have the wholesome feel and quite funny too
@@andreaisnthere ahh SpyXFamily is my breath of fresh air when it comes to family themed anime and manga...really is so darn wholesome...I love it to the moon and back...it was a gem in the haystack for me 😊
''The Manga That Betrayed Us All'' Is such epic title that i had to watch this video
Just randomly turning everyone into a piece of toast and eaten by birds would have been a better than that horrible route.
That sounds lovely in comparation.
Ah the orange fanta route. A classic.
That’d be kinda funny
Prometheus moment
@@chrono9503 they did my boy Prometheus wrong, he might be a pyromaniac but he ain't no toast
Years ago, my mom and I were bonding over the anime, so I got her a couple volumes of the manga for her birthday or Christmas. Thank God I only got her the first 3 volumes. When I read online that Rin falls in love with Daikichi, I just announced to her that we wouldn’t be reading any further and to not ask why. Man, I can still hear that bullet whizzing past.
oh damn that was so close to be horrible
I've read this when i was 12 and my mom did too. I mean it's a wholesome story right ? Anyways both of our reactions where the same : "what in the actual fuck was that ending ?"
For real. It makes me glad that I didn't talk about this manga with anyone when I was in the middle of reading it.
Anyways I think this is, if anything, extremely interesting on the effect it has on certain people. It makes it funny in a dark way to see the reactions. Good video.
I had a feeling of the twist even on the first half as you were explaining it an emphatising so much the "love" part lol
What’s so crazy about this is how well the author did at telling a believable, well-written, wholesome family story. If it were left alone it would be considered one of the classics, a timeless piece that lived on fondly in people’s memories. It’s hard to believe that the same mind who came up with such wonderful writing could also come up with such a horrible idea and actually go through with it, for no reason. The story didn’t need this twist, it was already amazing. And now it’s shit.
Mostly because this whole manga was her own fetish. She has a huge Electra complex, she has a thing for her own father as well.
@@Needler13 So weird. I guess people are complex, they can be talented and understand the human condition, but also have a totally weird or messed up side.
It really is fascinating that the same mind wrote these two halves. Was this the plan all along? The author obviously has a strong understanding of human relationships so how tf did they think this ending would be received??
@@wfjhDUI My thoughts exactly. Like how can you be so understanding of healthy human relationships yet also so far detached from them at the same time?
@@isaachester8475 makes sense if you think of those who have multiple personalities, which is the only way I could reason the author's writing lol
Usagi Drop is such a wonderful anime. It would be horrible if it had a manga that went this direction. Luckily it was an anime original that has no manga. I wonder where all the panels used in the video came from, because there is no manga. Oh well, I can always imagine a wholesome ending for the anime as cannon with Daikichi marrying Yukari because it was obviously going that way, and THERE IS NO MANGA.
Let me guess... Copium?
@@NightmareZV Every day.
Sometimes you just really need it. 😔
There is no war in Ba Sing Se 😊
@@ashisawsome621 There is no Usagi Drop manga in Ba Sing Se
Thank you so much for making this video. I read two volumes of the manga some years ago and absolutely loved it. I'd forgotten the title and was looking for it when I found this video. I dodged a whole ass nuke thanks to this.
this manga was the first manga I read in real-time, waiting for releases etc., and I've never followed a manga since. thanks, Bunny Drop!
"The manga doesnt exist, the anime is canon"
-Me, after finishing all of usagi drop
It's rare when the headcanon becomes the official canon for fans, but I think we found it.
What manga?
It's an anime only.
@@GabrielShitposting my guy, we literally just watched a video of the guy analyzing the manga
@@Raiden-si4ru my guy, I'm trying to gaslight people into staying with only the anime
@@GabrielShitposting and im kanye west