Absolutely the correct way to demo an amp. No overproduced tracks to hide the actual sound of the amp in the mix. This straight forward approach is always better. Bravo sir
Buddy, this is the first video of yours I've seen and can I just say, thank fucking christ for actually telling us all the gear you're using and going through all the modes. This should be the standard for doing a video like this but unfortunately that''s not the case. This amp is exactly what I'm looking for.
Matt C Thanks! If you're in the market, give us a call. We'll give you the best deal around! Mention this video for a discount! www.boyntonproaudio.com/peavey-6505-mh-20-watt-tube-guitar-amp/
Thanks guys, I already purchased one from a local dealer, I'm in Canada so shipping an amp is a bit of a pain. I'll look to you guys in the future though for any other gear needs!
Something to keep in mind, I have the 6505+ and it simply destroys! However I play mostly in my room now so turning it up loud has been a problem haha If you're a bedroom player, I recommend the mini, which is what I'm looking into as well! But if you're touring or don't mind upsetting the neighbors, the 6505+ is monstrous. I went with that after the dudes in Pathology said they used it haha
Thank you so much for this review!!! Really - clearly stated what is used for recording, clearly stated what exact channels are played. Even with and without distortion pedal. Just what I was looking for :)
i watched the first 2 minutes about him talking about the features and paused. I instantly wanted this thing, perfect for bedrooms and apartments it seems. the direct input makes me wet! and the option of different watts at the end... so freaking sweet.
I bought this amp 2 weeks ago. WOW what an amp! Only when I play it on 20 watts do the TI-LED also play on red! Will change the EL 84 tubes and see what happens then! It's just a shame that the 120 watt 6505 has no reverb! That makes the MH more interesting.
I really wish the XLR and USB outputs had the option to turn off the cab sim so you could record directly into your DAW with some cab impulses. Like pretty much every built-in cab sim, the tone is pretty much crap -- way too dark and full of mud. You can use the effects loop send but that's before the power amp, and you lose the resonance and presence controls (which are integral to the 6505's tone).
+alvarg Sure, you can post EQ to clean up the emulated output, but that still limits you to the speaker emulation built into the amp. My point was that I would much rather have the option (via a switch) to output a completely dry signal from the XLR and USB outputs. Then I could use my own cab IR's -- I own the complete Redwirez library and have a large collection of other cab IR's that I've picked up over the years (many free ones, but also a few paid ones too).
***** that would of been a great idea too late now i guess because I've used software based amps before with little joy, i mean they sound decent but i want a live amp with 4x12 speakers sometimes and no amp modeling software gives you a speaker cabinet simulator without it mic'd up which is strange because they can emulate an amps tube characteristics and all that but, emulating a speaker cone movements and tone is impossible? and lets face it even the best IR's don't sound as good as the real amp and cabinet, maybe positive grid bias could but you'd have to spend $250 bucks just to test out the amp match to find out and if it doesn't well that's 250 dollars that could of gone to a cabinet, from what i've heard on youtube it matches very well but i've yet to hear a convincing bullet or killswitch engage tone, at least with the 6505MH its not very expensive and gives me a real tube sound and many options for playback, i don't plan on recording i just play along to backing tracks so i think it'll be plenty for me
+alvarg Plenty of people use Bias, Axe-Fx, S-Gear, Eleven (or other high-end modelers), disable the cab simulation, then output the signal to a power amp and guitar cab in order to give what you are asking for.
***** if i was rich i'd go that route, but where i live that is a very expensive way of doing things, while for now i can just grab the 6505MH use emulated for quiet playing and use a cab for louder playing, plus i don't feel that the power amp section is enough i don't think an emulated tube screamer through a emulated 6505 to a power amp is going to give me the sound im after. 6505mh might not be a perfect option but its the best one i've heard thus far the only other amp i'd consider getting is the tubemeister 18 but i'm uncertain if that can handle metal as well as the 6505MH
In hindsight, while the KSM313 is a fantastic sounding microphone, something like a Shure SM57 probably would've been a better choice for this application. The KSM313 is a really warm sounding mic, and it worked really in the Peavey Classic 20 video that we shot. For hard rock/metal...something a little more cutting probably would've done the trick a little better. We also didn't do any post EQ on the guitars to try to let people hear what that amp sounded like on its own. Normally we'd put a high-pass filter on the guitars, but the big question at the time was if the 6505MH had the same signature low end and low midrange of the 120w versions. We wanted to showcase that it does.
After checking out the Mesa Recto mini I was afraid this would have the same; there is no headroom like the bigger brother issue. Sure sounds like peavey can do what mesa cant figure out!
+sunnohh The 120 watt big brother definitely has more headroom and bottom end than the 20 watt mini (as you'd expect) but the mini still sounds absolutely massive. You could easily play a gig with a loud drummer and have no problem cutting through the mix. We were all pleasantly surprised by how good these sound :)
+BoyntonProAudio Please, I really want to know if the 6505 MH can be almost as loud as the regular 6505 in gigs or shows?? And is the direct interface from the 6505 mh good enough to record with my laptop? I saw a video on the direct interface but sounded kind of bad unless they use a guitar interface
An important distinction to make is the difference between volume, and headroom. The 6505MH can definitely compete with a drummer and be used live as far as volume goes. That said, the 120 watt 6505 is going to have significantly more low end and punch because it has more power. So ultimately, it depends on your needs. If you're going to an ultra modern high gain guitar tone and need lots of volume on stage with a massive low end, the regular 6505 may fit your needs better. If you're micing your cabinet on stage, either head will more than do the job. As far as the direct out, a real speaker with a good mic on it is tough to beat. That said, the direct out is more than usable and you should have no problem getting some good tones out it.
I'm totally stucked choosing between 6505mh and classic 20. Can i make the "6505" metal sound using distortion pedals with classic 20? Thanks for video
its funny you start the video see the 6505 and go ok yup thats a 6505 then you see the mini and realise the sound your hearing is coming out of it, and you do a triple take because its shocking that a 20 watt tube amp is capable of producing such a good sound.
Please please do another one of these with EMGs. Those humbuckers just do not cut through and I can hear how clean the distortion is. Still has some mud to it though.
AWallace Productions The audio in the video is of the miced cabinet and the direct out blended with no post EQ...which does make things sound a little tubby in the bottom end. We'll have another video up in a few days that shows a comparison between the 6505 MH just with a mic on the cab, just with the direct out and how it compares to the full sized head.
I like the modern features of being able to cut the watts and headphone out for apartment playing but I need something like that that will sound good for blues tones. Ala Stevie Ray or Hendrix strat or a bluesey crunch ala ZZ Top. Not sure if this amp can do those sounds or only clean and metal sounds.
Hi Lucas, Check out our video on the Peavey Classic 20. Same features that you like about the 6505MH, but with tones that you may like better. czcams.com/video/gOjZ3ZkIJFQ/video.html
Absolutely! It won't have the bottom end punch that the 120w version has because it doesn't have as much headroom, but as far as volume, it can definitely get loud!
+Andreas Jørgensen Absolutely. It won't have as much low end punch has its 120w bigger brother at high volumes, but it will be more than loud enough to play live with.
+Hagane Yoshi A winning combination often used for modern metal is a 6505 paired with a Celestion Vintage 30 loaded cabinet. We used a Marshall cab with Vintage 30's in this clip. For more old school thrash, the Celestion G12T-75's are awesome. Something like a Marshall 1936 2x12 cab might be up your alley. We're a Marshall dealer and would be happy to quote you a price.
An advantage of running an overdrive into a high gain amp is that something like a Tube Screamer will thin out some of the guitar's bass frequencies. By having less low end pass through the gain stages, the result is a tighter, more focused sound. You can also turn the pedal's level control up past unity gain to push the front end of the amp harder. When doing this, you'll want to turn the amp's gain knob down to compensate. By running the amp's gain a little lower and pushing the front end of the amp a little harder, you get the same amount of perceived distortion out of the amp as you did without the pedal, but the amp sounds tighter, more focused and more percussive. A lot of modern metal guitarists that use the 6505 series amps pair it with an overdrive, so we figured we might as well show how it reacted to one in the video. As far as gigging with it, volume-wise it will definitely compete with a loud drummer. It won't have the same low end punch as its 120w big brother, but it can get plenty loud.
+Logan Absolutely. The 6505 was originally called the 5150 and was Eddie Van Halen's signature model amplifier. Before endorsing Peavey, Eddie was using Soldano SLO100's...and the the 5150 was very much inspired by those Soldanos. Gary Moore, Warren Haynes, Joe Bonamassa and even Eric Clapton have used SLO100's on and off over the years, and the Soldano inspired 6505 can definitely get in the ballpark of those tones. The green channel of the 6505 with the crunch mode engaged can go anywhere from classic rock to molten metal.
+Logan It could definitely get you into that territory. Another amp to check out would be the Peavey Classic 20 mini head. While it doesn't have as much gain as the 6505, it still has a ton of available gain on tap...and if you hit it with an overdrive it can definitely do high gain tones. If you're after better clean tones and more of a classic rock sound, that might be a better option for you. Here's the link to our demo of it. czcams.com/video/gOjZ3ZkIJFQ/video.html www.boyntonproaudio.com/peavey-classic20mh-20-watt-tube-guitar-amp/
+BoyntonProAudio Thank you, sir. The 6505MH first, then i'll look for that guitar. Hopefully, my playing chops will develop somewhere along the way. Hey - while you're 'on the line,' do you have any advice for me? I've sorta been playing for 30 years, but never seriously, and never continuously. I decided, for 2016, to begin almost from scratch, to learn lead guitar, which i've never been able to play. Starting with just repetition of a scale, with a metronome, trying to build muscle memory and cleaner technique. But, is there a course (DVDs?) that you'd recommend? I want a step-by-step program, that'll maybe take a year or two (rock lead/solo). I don't want a bunch of online individual lessons, unless they're really cohesively and sequentially presented. Thanks in advance. Just FYI, i can probably play what you're playing in this video, so i'm not completely incompetent, but i still want to start from scratch.
+CentaurusRelax314 There's really something to be said for finding a good teacher in your area. Someone to help you assess and address any issues that you may be running into, or some that you might not even be aware of but that might be holding you back.
+BoyntonProAudio Understood. A good answer, normally. But, i'm a freelancer, and it might be difficult to commit to a specific schedule if i have to drive out to an instructor. That's why i was hoping for something 'self-contained,' where i could work on it when/as time permits. But, maybe i need to re-examine the situation. Thanks, again.
The playthrough sounds great but muddied beyond redemption for some reason. Maybe it's the guitar... Still the amp tracks great in other demos, the newer china peaveys seem to shoot their feet as far as reliability goes.
Ste Ro It can definitely do lower gain tones as well, but if that's what you're after, check out our video of the Peavey Classic 20. It has awesome crunch tones as well as a fantastic clean channel!
BoyntonProAudio thx for the info! What I found pretty cool on this 6505 amp is that it has a footswichable crunch mode on the cleaner channel. I thought it would be possible to use it as a 3 channel amp, clean, crunch and high gain lead for solos. Would that be possible?
Ste Ro Yep! Though we'd recommend also having at least one overdrive pedal as well. Since the 6505's crunch and clean mode share the same gain knob, depending on how clean you like your clean tones, or how crunchy you like your crunch tones, the crunch mode might need a little help. I've found that if I leave my gain control around 9 o'clock I can get shimmering cleans, kick in the crunch for some breakup, and then hit in with a boost and be right in classic rock territory. Then you can switch over to the red channel for all of your high gain needs.
+Juan Canteli beyound rips. ever heard listen to thrice? your like in the end of this video reminds me of "a torch to end all torches" by thirce. check it out. hope to catch you guys at warped tour next year.
+Obstsalat95 What you're hearing in this video is a blend of the mic on the cabinet (the KSM313 is a fairly dark sounding mic) as well as the emulated out. The emulated out is a really handy option to have, but as others have mentioned, sounds a bit congested compared to something like a Shure SM57 pointed at the dust cap of a speaker.
Footswitch way too bulky with cheap non detachable cable. Design hasn't changed in 40 years. No head cover included. Other than that, have not one complaint with this amp so far. Sounds great at practice levels, and is plenty loud enough with a 4x12 for practice Pair this with another "Mini" head (Mark V:25 or Rectoverb 25) in stereo.... You will smile.
+Juan Canteli If you have played both this one and the Laney Irt studio which one would you recommend? I need one for recording and it should sound tight with the fast paced solos. I need to make some quick decisions
SixString67 If you follow the link at the end of the video we go through the MSDI, the miced sound, the MSDI and miced sound blended and how the 6505MH compares to the 120watt 6505+
BoyntonProAudio I read the peavey has a overheat problems and even more when attenuated to 5 or 1w + the sound gets terrible when volume is pushed in those modes...but your demo tends to proove the opposite...what do you think? Btw..I do play hardcore and listen to bands such as Madball, Hatbreed..and I'm a big fan of Pantera and Metallica....so knowing this what would be your advice? Peavey 6505 or randall rd20h...? Thx!
We’ve sold a ton of the 6505 Minis and have never experienced any overheating issues. We’re not a Randall dealer, but do enjoy their products. For the bands that you mentioned, I think you’d be happier with the 6505...but either would do the job. If you’d like to pick up the 6505 MH, if you order through us and mention this video...we can hook you up with a special promo price :)
BoyntonProAudio thanks your answers and advice! Thx for the offer but I live in switzerland...unfortunately the shipping costs will ruin even he best promo but thx anyway.
+Hareesh Kumar Shanggar The 6505MH has two 1/4" TRS jacks on the back of the amp to change channels, switch between clean and crunch modes on the green channel, turn the effects loop on and off and turn the reverb on and off. Peavey includes 1 two button footswitch that can be either used to change channels and activate clean and crunch modes, or be used to toggle the reverb and the effects loop. If you'd like to control all of its functions via footswitch, an additional two button footswitch will be needed.
We have a video up on our channel of the Peavey Classic 20. For low gain on up to pushed rock tones, that may be more up your alley. It also has a fantastic clean channel.
Absolutely the correct way to demo an amp. No overproduced tracks to hide the actual sound of the amp in the mix. This straight forward approach is always better. Bravo sir
Finally a GOOD review and demo of this amp!
Yes. I love how he demonstrates the chug without any other instruments to mask the overall sound.
Very Lamb of God-ish riffs. I love it!
all the Metal Gods are pleased with this review. Thanks !!
GREAT comparison ! Bought the 6505+ head today but still liking these little guys !
Buddy, this is the first video of yours I've seen and can I just say, thank fucking christ for actually telling us all the gear you're using and going through all the modes. This should be the standard for doing a video like this but unfortunately that''s not the case. This amp is exactly what I'm looking for.
Matt C Thanks! If you're in the market, give us a call. We'll give you the best deal around! Mention this video for a discount!
www.boyntonproaudio.com/peavey-6505-mh-20-watt-tube-guitar-amp/
Thanks guys, I already purchased one from a local dealer, I'm in Canada so shipping an amp is a bit of a pain. I'll look to you guys in the future though for any other gear needs!
Ditto, this is the first worthy demo.
Great demo. Ended up buying this from you guys today and it's already shipped. Awesome
Can we get a more average guitar player to do the riff demos? This guy is too good. Great job on the review!
Love love love love love love love love love love love love it!!!!!
Brilliant little amp! Torn between the usefulness of the Mini and the all-out balls of the 6505+.
Something to keep in mind, I have the 6505+ and it simply destroys! However I play mostly in my room now so turning it up loud has been a problem haha
If you're a bedroom player, I recommend the mini, which is what I'm looking into as well! But if you're touring or don't mind upsetting the neighbors, the 6505+ is monstrous. I went with that after the dudes in Pathology said they used it haha
Thank you so much for this review!!! Really - clearly stated what is used for recording, clearly stated what exact channels are played. Even with and without distortion pedal. Just what I was looking for :)
Glad it helped! If you'd like one, let us know!
By God, that sounds amazing! I'm getting one!!!
Nice demo, Peavey learned a lot off Eddie
bought today. so stoked
Great vid! i used the minihead for giging and for recording, really like the build-in audio interface!
i watched the first 2 minutes about him talking about the features and paused. I instantly wanted this thing, perfect for bedrooms and apartments it seems. the direct input makes me wet! and the option of different watts at the end... so freaking sweet.
Sounds worlds better than the Marshall DSL15 (at least on CZcams).
Dsl 40 ?
This amp sounds to good for $500 it's unbelievable. It's less money than the EVH 5150 50 watt, and it's time is so much richer and fatter
I've never heard a Les Paul sound better!
Patty Hays We can get you one just like it :)
I thought it sounded very dull on the clean channel May have needed strings
Nice Les Paul!
I bought this amp 2 weeks ago. WOW what an amp! Only when I play it on 20 watts do the TI-LED also play on red! Will change the EL 84 tubes and see what happens then! It's just a shame that the 120 watt 6505 has no reverb! That makes the MH more interesting.
Great tone in all variants!
Amazing riff!
Nice review! I would love to hear a comparison between this and the new EVH Lunchbox head. This is definitely on my radar.
+Steve Herb Thanks! We're a Fender dealer and the EVH line may not be far off. If we go that route, we'll be sure to post a video :)
ive got the classic! so far these are sweet little amps!
The Rhythm channel sounds good with the boost. The Lead channel doesn't need a boost.
I really wish the XLR and USB outputs had the option to turn off the cab sim so you could record directly into your DAW with some cab impulses. Like pretty much every built-in cab sim, the tone is pretty much crap -- way too dark and full of mud. You can use the effects loop send but that's before the power amp, and you lose the resonance and presence controls (which are integral to the 6505's tone).
+Justin Franks go into your daw with it and add an eq maybe? to clean it up a bit
+alvarg Sure, you can post EQ to clean up the emulated output, but that still limits you to the speaker emulation built into the amp. My point was that I would much rather have the option (via a switch) to output a completely dry signal from the XLR and USB outputs. Then I could use my own cab IR's -- I own the complete Redwirez library and have a large collection of other cab IR's that I've picked up over the years (many free ones, but also a few paid ones too).
***** that would of been a great idea too late now i guess because I've used software based amps before with little joy, i mean they sound decent but i want a live amp with 4x12 speakers sometimes and no amp modeling software gives you a speaker cabinet simulator without it mic'd up which is strange because they can emulate an amps tube characteristics and all that but, emulating a speaker cone movements and tone is impossible? and lets face it even the best IR's don't sound as good as the real amp and cabinet, maybe positive grid bias could but you'd have to spend $250 bucks just to test out the amp match to find out and if it doesn't well that's 250 dollars that could of gone to a cabinet, from what i've heard on youtube it matches very well but i've yet to hear a convincing bullet or killswitch engage tone, at least with the 6505MH its not very expensive and gives me a real tube sound and many options for playback, i don't plan on recording i just play along to backing tracks so i think it'll be plenty for me
+alvarg Plenty of people use Bias, Axe-Fx, S-Gear, Eleven (or other high-end modelers), disable the cab simulation, then output the signal to a power amp and guitar cab in order to give what you are asking for.
***** if i was rich i'd go that route, but where i live that is a very expensive way of doing things, while for now i can just grab the 6505MH use emulated for quiet playing and use a cab for louder playing, plus i don't feel that the power amp section is enough i don't think an emulated tube screamer through a emulated 6505 to a power amp is going to give me the sound im after. 6505mh might not be a perfect option but its the best one i've heard thus far the only other amp i'd consider getting is the tubemeister 18 but i'm uncertain if that can handle metal as well as the 6505MH
Sounds so fucking good!
that thing is pretty badass
Thanks dude,, now im confused
6505 mh or classic mh
Lol
Which did you finally choose? It' sooo difficult :)))
fantastic demo
It sounds awesome in the mix not sure how that all changed when played without other instruments. Its thin, muddy and dark.
In hindsight, while the KSM313 is a fantastic sounding microphone, something like a Shure SM57 probably would've been a better choice for this application. The KSM313 is a really warm sounding mic, and it worked really in the Peavey Classic 20 video that we shot. For hard rock/metal...something a little more cutting probably would've done the trick a little better. We also didn't do any post EQ on the guitars to try to let people hear what that amp sounded like on its own. Normally we'd put a high-pass filter on the guitars, but the big question at the time was if the 6505MH had the same signature low end and low midrange of the 120w versions. We wanted to showcase that it does.
Very good review, finally the first very good about the 6505 mh. Also, I find awesome the intro song! What' s its name?
Gilles Villeneuve Thanks. That's an original tune. If it's up your alley, you can check out my band here www.intoshadow.bandcamp.com
Thank you, i' ll check it
Excellent.
That's a seriously good sounding little beast, I'm sold. Do you want to make me a deal I can't refuse?
jonthorsigmunds Awesome! Give us a call on Monday at 607-337-2680 for the best deal that you'll find anywhere!
Will do!
After checking out the Mesa Recto mini I was afraid this would have the same; there is no headroom like the bigger brother issue. Sure sounds like peavey can do what mesa cant figure out!
+sunnohh The 120 watt big brother definitely has more headroom and bottom end than the 20 watt mini (as you'd expect) but the mini still sounds absolutely massive. You could easily play a gig with a loud drummer and have no problem cutting through the mix. We were all pleasantly surprised by how good these sound :)
I just got back into guitar after a 5 year hiatus, use to have a bias moded 5150, just ordered the mini!
Surprisingly 5 watt mode sounds best to me
isaac thrash I keep seeing your comments all over the place, it's like you're my long lost twin or something
Smith Smithson meaning u know what's awesome :)??
Hi ! How about reliability ? Someone has faced problem with it ? Thanks
Great review ! :)
My only question would be : is this amp loud enough ?
Definitely plenty loud. With more power you get more headroom and bass response, but as as far as volume, it can definitely compete with a drummer.
+BoyntonProAudio Please, I really want to know if the 6505 MH can be almost as loud as the regular 6505 in gigs or shows?? And is the direct interface from the 6505 mh good enough to record with my laptop? I saw a video on the direct interface but sounded kind of bad unless they use a guitar interface
An important distinction to make is the difference between volume, and headroom. The 6505MH can definitely compete with a drummer and be used live as far as volume goes. That said, the 120 watt 6505 is going to have significantly more low end and punch because it has more power. So ultimately, it depends on your needs. If you're going to an ultra modern high gain guitar tone and need lots of volume on stage with a massive low end, the regular 6505 may fit your needs better. If you're micing your cabinet on stage, either head will more than do the job.
As far as the direct out, a real speaker with a good mic on it is tough to beat. That said, the direct out is more than usable and you should have no problem getting some good tones out it.
Hi, very nice reviews, which song is the first you play and from wich bands ?? Thanks
Antinolfi Thierry That’s actually a song of Juan’s. You can check out his band Into Shadow on CZcams or Spotify.
@@BoyntonProAudio thanks i ll check
Do you use a mic or interface or is this straight from the amp? Whats your setup like. Id like mine to sound like this when recording videos.
I'm totally stucked choosing between 6505mh and classic 20. Can i make the "6505" metal sound using distortion pedals with classic 20? Thanks for video
its funny you start the video see the 6505 and go ok yup thats a 6505 then you see the mini and realise the sound your hearing is coming out of it, and you do a triple take because its shocking that a 20 watt tube amp is capable of producing such a good sound.
I love this amp. It's the most versatile thing ever. Clean channel is sex.
hi. man, fine?
I can turn turn on this amp without cabinet, using usb out and headphone?
Yep!
Nice sound
YEP!!!!
Please please do another one of these with EMGs. Those humbuckers just do not cut through and I can hear how clean the distortion is. Still has some mud to it though.
AWallace Productions The audio in the video is of the miced cabinet and the direct out blended with no post EQ...which does make things sound a little tubby in the bottom end. We'll have another video up in a few days that shows a comparison between the 6505 MH just with a mic on the cab, just with the direct out and how it compares to the full sized head.
That makes sense. Thanks for the reply!
It sounds awesome, anybody knows if it's possible to use a footswitch?... For channels/reverb?
+kbleskate Yep! All footswitchable with the included footswitch.
I like the modern features of being able to cut the watts and headphone out for apartment playing but I need something like that that will sound good for blues tones. Ala Stevie Ray or Hendrix strat or a bluesey crunch ala ZZ Top. Not sure if this amp can do those sounds or only clean and metal sounds.
Hi Lucas, Check out our video on the Peavey Classic 20. Same features that you like about the 6505MH, but with tones that you may like better. czcams.com/video/gOjZ3ZkIJFQ/video.html
Is it loud enough to get over a drummer for practice?
Absolutely! It won't have the bottom end punch that the 120w version has because it doesn't have as much headroom, but as far as volume, it can definitely get loud!
Where can I get one of those metal shelves that his heads are on in this video?
Bought one Yesterday :P
codster guitaristHD How are you liking it so far?
its freaking brilliant!
codster guitaristHD jealous :)
i´m saving up for one.
gooood review man
Will this amp be able to play with a loud drummer? and maybe play gigs?
+Andreas Jørgensen Absolutely. It won't have as much low end punch has its 120w bigger brother at high volumes, but it will be more than loud enough to play live with.
Also with a 2x12 cab? (because of limited space and neighboors:P)
Absolutely! Give us a call for a price too low to post!
www.boyntonproaudio.com/peavey-6505-mh-20-watt-tube-guitar-amp/
I'm thinking of buying this and a 2x12 cab, but don't know which one, any suggestions? i play thrash in D standard for tuning.
+Hagane Yoshi A winning combination often used for modern metal is a 6505 paired with a Celestion Vintage 30 loaded cabinet. We used a Marshall cab with Vintage 30's in this clip. For more old school thrash, the Celestion G12T-75's are awesome. Something like a Marshall 1936 2x12 cab might be up your alley. We're a Marshall dealer and would be happy to quote you a price.
Would this be loud enough to gig with? Also, why do people need to boost an already high gain amp?
An advantage of running an overdrive into a high gain amp is that something like a Tube Screamer will thin out some of the guitar's bass frequencies. By having less low end pass through the gain stages, the result is a tighter, more focused sound. You can also turn the pedal's level control up past unity gain to push the front end of the amp harder. When doing this, you'll want to turn the amp's gain knob down to compensate. By running the amp's gain a little lower and pushing the front end of the amp a little harder, you get the same amount of perceived distortion out of the amp as you did without the pedal, but the amp sounds tighter, more focused and more percussive. A lot of modern metal guitarists that use the 6505 series amps pair it with an overdrive, so we figured we might as well show how it reacted to one in the video.
As far as gigging with it, volume-wise it will definitely compete with a loud drummer. It won't have the same low end punch as its 120w big brother, but it can get plenty loud.
Any way you get get some lower gain classic rock-ish stuff out of this?
+Logan Absolutely. The 6505 was originally called the 5150 and was Eddie Van Halen's signature model amplifier. Before endorsing Peavey, Eddie was using Soldano SLO100's...and the the 5150 was very much inspired by those Soldanos. Gary Moore, Warren Haynes, Joe Bonamassa and even Eric Clapton have used SLO100's on and off over the years, and the Soldano inspired 6505 can definitely get in the ballpark of those tones. The green channel of the 6505 with the crunch mode engaged can go anywhere from classic rock to molten metal.
+BoyntonProAudio so this would be good for som gnr/Zeppelin style stuff also?
+Logan It could definitely get you into that territory. Another amp to check out would be the Peavey Classic 20 mini head. While it doesn't have as much gain as the 6505, it still has a ton of available gain on tap...and if you hit it with an overdrive it can definitely do high gain tones. If you're after better clean tones and more of a classic rock sound, that might be a better option for you. Here's the link to our demo of it.
czcams.com/video/gOjZ3ZkIJFQ/video.html
www.boyntonproaudio.com/peavey-classic20mh-20-watt-tube-guitar-amp/
Stunning Les Paul. What color is that?
+CentaurusRelax314 Thanks! It's a root beer finish.
+BoyntonProAudio
Thank you, sir. The 6505MH first, then i'll look for that guitar. Hopefully, my playing chops will develop somewhere along the way. Hey - while you're 'on the line,' do you have any advice for me? I've sorta been playing for 30 years, but never seriously, and never continuously. I decided, for 2016, to begin almost from scratch, to learn lead guitar, which i've never been able to play. Starting with just repetition of a scale, with a metronome, trying to build muscle memory and cleaner technique. But, is there a course (DVDs?) that you'd recommend? I want a step-by-step program, that'll maybe take a year or two (rock lead/solo). I don't want a bunch of online individual lessons, unless they're really cohesively and sequentially presented. Thanks in advance. Just FYI, i can probably play what you're playing in this video, so i'm not completely incompetent, but i still want to start from scratch.
+CentaurusRelax314 There's really something to be said for finding a good teacher in your area. Someone to help you assess and address any issues that you may be running into, or some that you might not even be aware of but that might be holding you back.
+BoyntonProAudio Understood. A good answer, normally. But, i'm a freelancer, and it might be difficult to commit to a specific schedule if i have to drive out to an instructor. That's why i was hoping for something 'self-contained,' where i could work on it when/as time permits. But, maybe i need to re-examine the situation. Thanks, again.
+CentaurusRelax314 On second listen, No, i probably couldn't play what you were playing (intro) without a lot of work.
The playthrough sounds great but muddied beyond redemption for some reason. Maybe it's the guitar...
Still the amp tracks great in other demos, the newer china peaveys seem to shoot their feet as far as reliability goes.
+81giorikas The KSM313 may not have been the best mic choice for this amp. It's a really dark sounding microphone.
Its because they have the volume at 2. This amp doesn't come alive until 7 on the green crunch and 5-6 on the red.
How loud is it in 20 watt mode ? Does it have trouble to get past drum sound level ?
+Marc-Andre C It will definitely compete with a drummer
Would you recommend this amp for some less driven tones?
Ste Ro It can definitely do lower gain tones as well, but if that's what you're after, check out our video of the Peavey Classic 20. It has awesome crunch tones as well as a fantastic clean channel!
czcams.com/video/gOjZ3ZkIJFQ/video.html
BoyntonProAudio thx for the info! What I found pretty cool on this 6505 amp is that it has a footswichable crunch mode on the cleaner channel. I thought it would be possible to use it as a 3 channel amp, clean, crunch and high gain lead for solos. Would that be possible?
Ste Ro Yep! Though we'd recommend also having at least one overdrive pedal as well. Since the 6505's crunch and clean mode share the same gain knob, depending on how clean you like your clean tones, or how crunchy you like your crunch tones, the crunch mode might need a little help. I've found that if I leave my gain control around 9 o'clock I can get shimmering cleans, kick in the crunch for some breakup, and then hit in with a boost and be right in classic rock territory. Then you can switch over to the red channel for all of your high gain needs.
what's the name of your band? I need to hear this song entirely.
+Josh Esco intoshadow.bandcamp.com/ Thanks!
+Juan Canteli beyound rips. ever heard listen to thrice? your like in the end of this video reminds me of "a torch to end all torches" by thirce. check it out. hope to catch you guys at warped tour next year.
+Josh Esco Thanks Josh!
Is the song at the end recorded via usb / emulated out ?
It was a blend of the mic on the cab and the emulated out.
what pickups were used
57 classics?
498t/490?
Burstbuckers?
+Michael Collings Gibson 500t in the bridge and a Duncan 59 in the neck.
It screams , thanks for the reply.
does he have the tone rolled off? his guitar sounds insanely dull...its not the amp as i can tell from other videos
+Obstsalat95 What you're hearing in this video is a blend of the mic on the cabinet (the KSM313 is a fairly dark sounding mic) as well as the emulated out. The emulated out is a really handy option to have, but as others have mentioned, sounds a bit congested compared to something like a Shure SM57 pointed at the dust cap of a speaker.
Footswitch way too bulky with cheap non detachable cable. Design hasn't changed in 40 years. No head cover included. Other than that, have not one complaint with this amp so far. Sounds great at practice levels, and is plenty loud enough with a 4x12 for practice
Pair this with another "Mini" head (Mark V:25 or Rectoverb 25) in stereo.... You will smile.
This thing blows away the evh lunchbox iii. Got the evh and traded it a week later. This is a wayyyyy better amp.
What are the songs at the beginning and at the end of the video please ?
Johan LE ROCH Those are Juan’s riffs. You can check out his band Into Shadow on CZcams, Spotify or iTunes if you’d like to hear more like it. Thanks!
Thanks for the reply :)
Those riffs are awesome ;)
Jesus Loves You
can i use it without cabinet ?
Rizki Septiawan Yep! You can either go directly into your recording interface, or direct to the PA system. There's also a headphone jack.
thanks for the information buddy
do you thing guys that amp have more gain than laney irt???
+minos matsas The red channel definitely has more gain than the Laney.
ok thanks my friend
+Juan Canteli If you have played both this one and the Laney Irt studio which one would you recommend? I need one for recording and it should sound tight with the fast paced solos. I need to make some quick decisions
+Prashant Joshi 6505 easy
Wanted to hear the MSDI
SixString67 If you follow the link at the end of the video we go through the MSDI, the miced sound, the MSDI and miced sound blended and how the 6505MH compares to the 120watt 6505+
How does the amp sound in 1 watt mode
Sounds great! Roaring tones at whisper volumes!
Shame I bought the valveking mh before this little guy came out...
How is it compared to a Randall rd20h??
Both are great amps, with very different gain structures.
BoyntonProAudio I read the peavey has a overheat problems and even more when attenuated to 5 or 1w + the sound gets terrible when volume is pushed in those modes...but your demo tends to proove the opposite...what do you think?
Btw..I do play hardcore and listen to bands such as Madball, Hatbreed..and I'm a big fan of Pantera and Metallica....so knowing this what would be your advice? Peavey 6505 or randall rd20h...? Thx!
We’ve sold a ton of the 6505 Minis and have never experienced any overheating issues. We’re not a Randall dealer, but do enjoy their products. For the bands that you mentioned, I think you’d be happier with the 6505...but either would do the job.
If you’d like to pick up the 6505 MH, if you order through us and mention this video...we can hook you up with a special promo price :)
BoyntonProAudio thanks your answers and advice!
Thx for the offer but I live in switzerland...unfortunately the shipping costs will ruin even he best promo but thx anyway.
how are you getting a CLEAN tone? mine will get maybe 15% clean.
Make sure that the crunch mode isn’t engaged and keep the gain on the rhythm channel is below 9 o’clock. It should stay pretty clean.
Waaatt band are you in omg
Hi! For stuff most like the music in this demo, you can check out Into Shadow czcams.com/video/CDNaEAS38gI/video.html
how does the footswitch work?
+Hareesh Kumar Shanggar The 6505MH has two 1/4" TRS jacks on the back of the amp to change channels, switch between clean and crunch modes on the green channel, turn the effects loop on and off and turn the reverb on and off. Peavey includes 1 two button footswitch that can be either used to change channels and activate clean and crunch modes, or be used to toggle the reverb and the effects loop. If you'd like to control all of its functions via footswitch, an additional two button footswitch will be needed.
muito bom
Wait I know this guy
+Nick Casale Adobe Tutorials We all know this guy
+Nick Casale Adobe Tutorials Ha! Small world.
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The boost is overkill. I don’t understand anyone who uses a boost with a amp that’s already heavy. Just sounds like mush
so muddy
yeah way to much bass
Sorry.. butt its fucking awfull,, it all sounds the same ? overdrive or not ! i was waiting for some vairiations in tone
not just one chainsaw !!
We have a video up on our channel of the Peavey Classic 20. For low gain on up to pushed rock tones, that may be more up your alley. It also has a fantastic clean channel.
Video doesn't quite do it justice. The gain jumps around 6-7 on both knobs and sounds completely different