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Chloe and Halle really make Grownish fun to watch.
zan752000 Aaron does it for me
I know and Luca
Chloe,Halle,Luca and Aaron are the show. Zoey gives a story line. But those 4 are my favs.
zan752000 their acting is trash.
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The issue with this show is that it doesn't know what it wants to be.
It doesn't know if it wants to be Saved by the Bell or Different World.
One minute the show is trying hard to be super black and the next it's super vanilla.
The show is littered with black slang and culture, but lots of these characteristics and traits are being performed through the eyes and lens of whiteness.
No one on the show is really likeable. Everyone is very juvenile and childish.
The drama is stale, the plots are stale and the characters are stale. There's no real interest or motivation to go back and check out the upcoming episode besides the need or want to see black people on screen, but the show is pure crap.
I totally agree! The authenticity just isn’t there bc it’s confused lol
madmann1000 THIS
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madmann1000 😂😂😂 I only watched the first three episodes of season one and I dipped. The show look like liberal Disney shit. 💯
Man I couldn't make it after two episodes LOL it's a straight Different World bootleg and that's all it ever will be. The writing, acting and everything else leaves a lot to be desired.
Honestly, I love yara, but she's not a strong lead. I find her costars more interesting.
Finally, Someone Said It. She Was Better On Blackish. Where She Had Limited Screen Time.
Yes!
Yara cant act.
Morgan bailey Thank you! She’s the worst actor on the show. The bad thing is her character is supposed to be the most “complex” so they keep trying to make her have the range but doesn’t
It's not her fault how her character is written though.
I thought I was the only one who felt like this about Grownish! Zoey is unlikable and her antics are a little childish tbh. She needs more dimensions for to be believable. The acting is bleh.... the writing definitely needs work and they should ditch the voice overs, it makes the show kind of PBS-ish. And yes they try to hard with the slang in the dialogue as if old people are writing what they think young black people sound like smh!
They "stunt cast" vs hiring real actors which keeps happening. Hollywood seems to believe you can take a singer who has a following, send them to a 3 week master class, and suddenly they are "actors." There are 1000s of unemployed actors from top schools NYU, DePaul, USC, etc they could hire and make the acting more of a requirement to make the cast.
Frl you can just tell that Kenya Barris just took slang that we use on social media and just to copied and pasted it into the show! And most of the slang is pretty much outdated and almost obsolete.
I agree with this statement
@@mommynab I don't get why they never seem to have young writer's as part of these types of shows... Like I wonder if they ever try that? I'm sure it wouldn't be easy with new and upcoming writers but at least give a try.. cause having older generations trying to do a whole show based around young people makes no sense
Her character is the same way she was on Black-ish so being unlikable was realistic at first. She was selfish and took shortcuts on there. So for the 1st season it was expected, but you would've thought by mid 2nd and definitely in the 3rd season that she'd mature a little. Seems like the writers think fucking, drinking, taking drugs is the only way kids mature. It's like they forgot their late teenage/early 20s.
The actor who plays Aaron is the strongest actor.
I enjoy him . Luca is cool too.
I loved him on American Crime! I just don’t think he’s the best comedic actor
Yes so true
He was amazing in Let It Shine
@@19GENESE13 lol so just the men? Girl. Just say you have self hatred to women.
I disagree on the fashion tip. Zoey is very fashionable but I think it’s just not realistic for a college student to be decked out in designer clothes and be that “polished” everyday. Most of us went to class in sweats. So it does make her character unrelatable. As for the comparison between her and Moesha I thought that was interesting considering Yara and Brandy have the same birthday I believe lol. The Aquarius curse.
International students be dressing up
Zoey's parents are rich and her dad likes to show off. No surprise Zoey is decked out in designer clothes
Fr her fashion was great
Whitley Gilbert. Designer clothes and polished AF from freshman to senior year. Why is this different? Plus her parents are wealthy soooooooon........
Tee Murrs you totally are missing the point and that’s ok.
The show is called Black-ish for the very reason of the cast structure Black-ish literally means Black-to some extent.
exactly
Marsha J this comment! ❤️
Yesss, I was confused by her explaination. The title is self explanatory "Black-ish". And most people that are biracial, are considered black. Everyone was excited we had our first black parent, we don't call him biracial.
Thank you
And that poll. Lol. Do you consider mixed people biracial? 😂 This channel.
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Dear White People, Seasons 1-2 is everything I wanted Grownish to be.
Same premise, stronger writing, and stronger acting.
B.I.G. Talk TV but season 3 was a letdown.
@@RalphJr-xp3hp it was
@@RalphJr-xp3hp I'm hoping the writers redeem themselves with Season 4, cause season 3 definitely wasn't the business
I liked the first season but didn't come back after that but I didn't even know they had a season 3.
That episode where they talk about colorist was poorly done.
I agree😭😭😭
i feel like nomi had the most growth. she’s the only character that doesn’t repeat her mistakes. She’s very emotionally aware and tbh the only relatable character. Not only that but she can actually act. Watching Yara try to fake cry or be upset is so cringey. It’s kinda sad that the best actor/ character is the only white one in the main cast :/
I agree with literally everything you said except... I loved the character Moesha!! She was extremely intelligent, a go getter, stood firm in her word, and usually stood for what was right. I will admit she was a little opinionated and judgemental with her friends sometimes though lol
I agree that she has good qualities. I might have a little grudge against her character for calling Kim fat lol. I also think she caused many unnecessary conflict from being nosy, self righteous and making selfish decisions. This made me dislike her character and reminds me of Zoe. But her character is MUCH MORE well rounded and I see why other would like her. She just got on my nerves lol
It’s probably an unpopular opinion🤷🏽♀️
@@LaVidaRosa 😆 I feel you! You're right, lol!
Moesha was also a bit spoiled and British imo
@@Cocosmyl3 British??
watts omg auto correct lol. I meant selfish.
I think the problem with grownish is that it doesn't know what it wants to be along with the fact that you have this grown man writing about a group of college students who are growing up in today's era so it's reading really unrelatable along with the fact that black woman are carrying this show but don't really have the voice they should have
I have always found the character of Zoey extremely unlikable. She was the weakest link on Black--Ish and her character is even worse here.
I agree
On Grownish: they lose me every time they attempt to create the hbcu experience . In all honesty, Zoey could have gone to Howard or Southern & met the same group of people. Zoey doesn't grow up.
Genese Knox do you think that if she went to an HBCU that the show would have been attacked as a different world rip off? You know how people can be.
@@lrs1519 maybe. Definitely if they used the cast of friends she has now. The first cast/season of a different world was multicultural.
I'm mad how little screen time Ryan Destiny gets! Like I like Jillian and she barely even gets a proper character arc! Tbh it feels like she's literally here to make the show appear more "diverse", be kind of a catalyst to Zoey and Luca's drama and be yet another medium to give advice to Zoey smh. At this point the show just got really boring and stale and wouldn't be watchable without the Forrester sisters' clapbacks and their raw and down to earth p.o.v on Zoey's bullshit, Vivek and his weird self entertaining me, and Luca's sarcastic alternative vibe. Aaron doesn't really have a need on the show anymore other than be caught up in Zoey's love triangle foolishness in my opinion and it's weird how we don't hear about his woke activism anymore but I still like him though. Ana at this point is just here to give advice and drive Zoey to her senses. I like Nomi too but I feel like she's just here to be the bisexual, alternative white girl but i like her character. Oh and Doug is dope. (1/2)
I'm hoping to see Ryan more since just started. But I have noticed Luca might be limited too cus hes with her. But they may film a one on with him a zoey but hopefully not since they are now dating
I think the problem with the show is the network they are on. Because the network's demographic is preteen to teenage they aren't going to to totally "go in" on certain topics. The result is sometimes the scenes and scenarios are somewhat generic.
I definitely agree that networks can hinder a show's progress, but Freeform seems to be a good platform to discuss certain topics; their shows The Fosters, Good Trouble, the Party of Five reboot, even when it was ABC Family, Lincoln Heights, etc. There are so many examples of Freeform pushing boundaries, Kenya Barris just seems to not have the range to really go in on certain topics.
For me, blackish is suitable bc it describes their experiences as black people vs solely focusing on the percentage of blackness in their DNA. Beau & Dre had extremely different upbringings & approaches to blackness. Kenya Barris isn't a colorist. The characters on blackish are based on his real family . His wife's real nickname is Bow. If my story Is based on my life, the cast will reflect it
Yeah, I didn't see a problem with the name, it's called Black ish. The "ish" signaled it was close but not fully "black" and the kids match exactly to what one might expect of having a 100% white grandparent. With 4 kids, at least one may be hella light, one dark, and someone in between. Happens all the time in mixed race families - the white gene might carry, or the black or a mix in terms of facial features and color.
Agreed, it’s not like dark skin people make videos when there are no light skin people involved. They’ll yell from the roof tops as to why they’re happy.
Best comment I've seen
He's actually colorist. It's obvious in his casting in Grownish
Jadesola Ajao no he’s definitely not, his actual family looks like the cast. He made the shows because he wanted to showcase his own family.
I only watch for the fashion and the twins on the show. Everything else is not realistic to college life at all
What's wild is that Vivek's story would be something that's enjoyable to watch like there's so much untapped potential with Vivek's character
I always thought this too. Vivek is very interesting and they barely use him and give so much shine to everyone else.
A diane grownish would be lit
It really isn't realistic I be going to class with a Jean's and a t shirt and that's me TRYING to look decent on campus. NOBODY at university or college doesn't have that type of cash or energy to be doing the most everyday. I just wish the show was more realistic and showed some of the real things we go tru tryna get our degree.
WASMT she middle class ?
I like Grownish but I don't watch weekly. I binge watch it after several episode have pilled on. But I never really like Zoey's character and didn't understand the hype around her. Like why is she in a love triangle?! I do like how the twins shade her about her personality bc I always think the same thing lol .. I really watch for the twins but I love Doug and Luca too
I do the same thing I just finished watching the 3rd season I’m on the fence cause I can’t deny that I don’t watch it but their are problems with the plot in some episodes.
I fully agree; I don’t see anyone who looks like me
I completely agree with what you said about Chloe x Halle’s characters. They should’ve been written differently. I LOVE them as people outside of the show 😍❤️ but unpopular opinion, their characters were soo rude for no reason. Yes sometimes, Zoey deserved it but I would’ve loved to see Zoey clap back at them more because they came at her the most because they knew she wouldn’t say anything back 💀
I too went to a PWI here in California. I know for a a fact they never did any research on black students that attend these institutions. Period. No focus groups at all. They barely talk about serious topic. Oh and the fact that Zoey dropped out of school last episode. I get it, college is not for everybody and her parents are paying for it. But did the writers, show creator ever thought that in California the black population on campus is between 3%-7%. On top of that the retention rate is so bad. Even my friends who got master's degrees question out current president where are our black students. Graduation for black students went from 15 rows deep to 4 rows. They don't got the right people in those rooms. And you are right. They just want to show underage drinking, knowing damn well no university campus that sells alcohol will service underage people and get shut down (I know it's a show but still). The show really missed out on alot of stuff that can and should be talked about besides relationships.
It's like they didn't give zoey no back bone. It's like she is dumb and selfish. The storylines needs some love and need to touch on some serious. It's like they didnt give her positive look.
Speak for yourself, I loved Moesha😂😂 she was annoying at times, but who wasn’t as a teenager🤷🏾♀️
I feel like no one from the grownish cast has actually ever been to college. At least it seems that way.
Mary Zb they went to a college majoring in nothing but blowing up their scholarship/parents’ money. And think sitting outside on the college campus balcony area and looking out into the background analyzing the people. And then all of a sudden think they define everyone and college on campus as a way of saying, “This is college in a nutshell.”
Yara goes to Harvard
Monet Monroe yikes. so there’s no excuse for why this show is so inaccurate.
Mary Zb 🤷🏾♀️
The person who plays Ana never been to college francia
marsai martin is a child prodigy, ima be on the look out for her
If can be summed up in one word... inauthentic. Shows back in the day didn’t try to be “woke” or “over political”. The characters and writing carried the show. Shows these days focus on the gimmicks and social commentary rather than good writing as a way to draw attention.
You dun hit it! Grownish and other shows like it now are trying wayyy too hard to be "woke" or "hip" but they end up looking didactic and preachy. The GREAT shows from back in the day were so much better and were better with juggling comedy and drama.
Now let's move on and talk about the serious topics that gets discussed on the show. Imma give grown-ish some props for touching on cultural appropriation, Rodney's racial ambiguity, and some other topics. Those episodes were enjoyable and were really insightful. But the other episode that discuss serious topics are another situation. The episode i'm referring to is the colorism episode!! The episode started off decent enough (Sky and Jazz were having trouble finding men that share their race who would want to date them and they started a debate on whether or not black girls are still found desirable) but it got bogged down by the fact that there wasn't any dark skin FEMALE characters at the time. Now, Sky and Jazz can be classified as brown skin but to me they are a bit on the light skin complexion side. That doesn't exactly mean they can't really experience colorism it's just that their experience isn't that deep as what dark skin women have to face on the daily (but I applaud them and Vivek (who is not black and understands their struggle) for laying down the facts! anyways back to the episode, I'm really disgusted how Aaron used a dark skin girl as a prop! He literally used her to prove to Luca that he liked nubian queens and not just egyptian queens! Whew chile Kenya Barris isn't as slick as he thinks! Anyways, thanks for letting me rant! (2/2)
Sis you hit the nail on the head with this video! This is exactly how I felt about this show to a tee and was wondering if others felt the same!
Every single issue they try to tackle, they tend to use the cast to represent an aspect of the issue instead of zoning in an one aspect and make one or two points. Thus every time i watch I feel things are always unresolved. Also I think they barely factor in the academic aspect of school, like does anyone go to class other than Zoey every once in a while and they attend a PWI, there's so much more that could be done with that fact and actually speak to the experience at institutions like this
It's supposed to be mixed because it black but not really black so black-ish
By definition the show means somehow black but not really........the issue comes when a new show mixed-ish came in
I always thought it was called Black-ish because they don't behave like typical black people. Dre is the only one that brings up black culture and has to go out of his way to educate them on it at times. And by stereotypical I don't mean ghetto just that all of them would get their black card revoked if we quizzed them.
alwaysm.i.a. Im sure that’s what they intended.
I agree with the comments, yara isn’t the best actress.. I feel like in order for this show to work each episode needs to be on a specific topic.. like if this is suppose to be about college and each character finding themselves why not show that.. they literally breeze through everything. It’s a 30min episode but majority of the episode is just banter. Like how are they on their junior year and we didn’t see any of the struggles of going through college? And I think they need to get rid of the comedic factor bc none of them are really funny besides the Bailey sisters.. Make it into a drama and let jazz & sky be ur comedic relief
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i def agree that they dropped the ball with grownish this season, i feel like the plot isnt going anywhere. the storylines were reall tired.
i also like your comparison between zoey and moesha. i never thought about it like that, their characters are very similar.
i don't have the urge to watch the 2nd season or any other seasons I missed, the show didn't do it for me
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I really want Kenya to give Debbie Allen a call so she can do for grownish what she did for different world &... I agree with the moesha comment I feel like I can’t even watch moesha without it being a Kim episode moesha was a self centered friend she was not like able at all zoey is a similar character I wish they would give Vivek a story line like damn
Marcus Scribner is also mixed. So is the baby Devante!
Charlene Warren not that I want to invalidate what you have to say, but what does that have to do with my comment?
His mom is mixed his dad is black he relates well to his character
In the 1st season of this show I did care about Zoe and which guy she chose but somewhere down the line I lost interest. Grown-ish had so much potential. I don't know what happened. Writers? Too long of breaks between seasons? Acting? But something. Like you I couldn't get into this season once I found out it wasn't Zoe that was pregnant I lost interest. I think networks are losing great writers to Netflix, Hulu, Apple Tx and etc. Seems that's where the better storylines are going.
I feel like the reason that a lot of the cast is biracial is because light skin is better “white is right” and all that. I’M BLACK btw. I haven’t watched more than 2 episodes of grownish because I found that Zoey was dumb. Her decisions were, as a lot of others said, immature. And I’m not gone sit here and act like I didn’t do stupid stuff in college but come on sis.
If a biracial person doesn’t identify as biracial because maybe they hate that one side of their family which I’ve encountered before then I go with how they identify. Otherwise they’re biracial.
And Ryan Destiney isn’t even that dark! I would’ve loved someone a little darker but either way, it’s an improvement.
Most of my bi racial friends said it's because their white side would constantly remind them that they were Black and treat them as such.
Monica Logan I totally get that and I can say that one of the reasons why the black community identify biracial people as biracial and not black is because when we accept them as black then they push black people who have two black parents(and who look stereotypical black with darker skin and fuller features and kinkier hair)out of spaces because of colorism and because when the media and companies are told they need diversity those companies/ect. then go and find biracial people to fill their quotas because lighter is better and because they are “black”. So we want to create clear lines as to what is black and what’s not not to push biracial people out but to create the much needed space for black people who aren’t ambiguous to have our own opportunities. Ps I said “companies” but that goes for Hollywood, fashion industry, ect.
The dispription you gave about the twins characters was so accurate. I think I cringe the most when they come one scene, as much as I wanna root for them I do believe some of the awkwardness comes from them not being good actresses.
Grownish is a terrible show. They tried too hard to model it like Blackish, which is actually funny... I don't think that Yara has the range (yet) to play the lead on that show. Her co-stars often outshine her in my opinion. Zoey is unbelievable..... I don't believe anyone would act like that in real life
LaVidaRosa you are hilarious so unintentionally and I love it. I respect your viewpoints because you can tell you actually feel this way. Keep doing it!
I honestly watched this show while in high school when it first premiered...and I felt that they really weren't giving me any real experience of how they try to navigate college- it was practically relationship based. So it just felt like drama at this point and it wasn't really made to highlight Zoey's college experience but to immerse her into drama but in a college setting(at least that's what it feels like for me). Watching this, I got happy when they mentioned the...[SEASON FOUR SPOILER]
...pandemic because I am the cursed class that started off their college year during a pandemic...and I got so mad that they glossed that shit over because that would not involve them being in college causing drama and I am so over it. I know a lot of people want to forget about the fact that it happened but it did and I want to see(or if not see then I'll write it myself) a show that talked about what it was like to live through that- and especially trying to succeed as if nothing happened. We can't be in denial- hell, so many already don't think it's dangerous enough to put a damn mask on
I love grownish I just wish the episodes were longer. Trevor Jackson is my favorite character and I love his acting especially in Super fly. I agree with you 90 percent I just think Diane Character (Blackish)is her being like Ruby it was an episode about her being brownskin and also this season they did a episode on Diane hair. I also agree with you on the grownish, adding Ryan destiny was perfect but why wait until season 3 to add a brown skin girl... Can you do All America or On my block. #NewFollower ❤️
Love that Toni and Lynn vibe
I love black sitcoms as well. My favorite sitcoms are Good Times, Family Matters, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Martin, The Wayans Bros, The Bernie Mac Show & Everybody Hates Chris. The episode when Will’s father abandoned him hits home with me.
Chloe,Halle,Luca and Aaron make the show funny. Zoey gives a storyline. But those 4 are my faves.
I see no issue on the mixed part personally. I feel like if you got black in you you black to me, period. Unless the person wants me to refer to them as mixed I call them black. I have a lot of mixed ppl in my family and they refer to themselves as black. Never watched the show or black ish. I love me some Tracee but these shows just never peaked my interest.
To the defense of Black-ish with a mixed clan, we have seen that always for years with black sitcoms. Even on the Cosby Show, Philicia Rashad is brown skin, but she is also bi-racial - her father is cuban. A Different World was built around Lisa Bonet - also biracial, and when she left they centered it more around Jasmine Guy - also biracial. I would consider that very BlackISH.
I just wished that the show was based on students being at an HBCU and young successful students. The last episode with zoe dropping out was made a big deal. Wish they made it less of a big deal. College isn't the only way to being successful. Zoe already had a side gig as a personal stylist she didn't really need college to follow her dream. Why get into more debt like her friend Aaron.
I was actually disappointed with the Grownish writers on how they ended Doug and Jazlyn relationship. Exactly like LaVida said Doug and Jazlyn relationship wasn't a struggle toxic love story like a lot of relationships are played out in movies and tv shows. It was actually kool seeing a black love relationship cause they both loved each other and ofc they had their relationship issues like any other relationship but the writere in Season 3 made things so complicated for no reason in my opinion for them. To an extent I can understand Jazlyn taking a step back from Doug cause she lost her focus on her passion which was track but at the same time couples learn how to balance and set boundaries over time in the relationship. Idk I felt like Doug and Jazlyn could of overcame that part in their relationship and grow together but their break was so complicated and Doug was mad over Jazlyn one night stand the writers could of done better of them.
It’s just weird because yara’s character in blackish is rarely shown tbh and didn’t have any development at all . And now In grownish that we know her a little more, there still isn’t any character development with her. So like what’s the point?
Tbh honest, all the character's in Grownish has poor character development, especially Luca. Like he only exists as Zoey's bf and is so out place now they're no longer together. He was never friends with Zoey's friends and the sudden relationship between him Nomi was so forced.
Kay K. Agreed! It was so weird when him and nomi were cool all of a sudden
"Or the other one, the WOLF" 🤣🤣🤣
I don't know why that made me laugh so hard
Your makeup is EVERYTHING, ma'am!
I agree with you, black comedies have defined my childhood. My faves are a different world, fresh Prince of bel air, living single
You guys saying no one dresses like that for uni. I think it fits Zoey character with only caring about looks and style
And also she ain’t broke at all. Her family is literally like middle class 😊
To be completely honest I think a lot of these tv networks and castings just have an issue with having a dark skin couple at the forefront, it’s always the lighter skinned woman and dark skin man and that can be seen in other shows like Martin even , but yess the colorism issue when it comes to tv shows is too evident. Edit: I definitely think if their going to introduce certain controversial social issues there needs to be better research done into the significance of the topics bc there’s a lot of ppl watching these shows that it’s probably their first time hearing these topics and there’s a lot of misinformation and it just seems watered down and made to be “palatable” for a certain audience. Lol and why am just now realizing as you break down the characters that the show seems very similar to “Dear White People” on Netflix but more watered down 😂
Now, Trevor was really good in "Super Fly"!!!
It’s college theme is very misleading especially to me a high school senior who is looking forward to college. It makes it seem like that’s how some colleges are. Which I know now they are not and I’m relieved.
I definitely agree because some of the characters and everything the storyline was off the fact that Zoey had to go from Aaron and Luca was hella annoying it could have been better and I think Chloe and Halle would have been better with different personalities. Cash was to me a good love interests but all that Zuca and Zaron mess that was unnecessary. And everyone else being the protagonist and with Zoey being really uptight I would have agreed with her as she was on Blackish I feel like Blackish was way better I'm sorry "Grownish".
I agree with the part with Doug also the way the racial concepts and turning points of the story changed it was a mess.
First, I really wanted to like this show because I thought that I’d relate to zoey as I’m an black student at a PWI and as the seasons went on we’re in the same class. BUT like you said, Zoey is not like able and although they tried to make the themes relatable to students (and students of color) there wasn’t enough substance for each plot. Most of the drama was surrounding zoey and they normally resolved within 48 hours... Given the show is 30 minutes but it’s just not doing it for me. I definitely need them to start making stories for the other characters because it seems like their stories always get wrapped up in zoeys... And lastly, why did they make Aaron a simp????
Just because there is no dark skin girl doesnt mean they cant tackle colorism, that's kinda the point to support an issue despite your race, ethnicity or sexuality. And the show is about people in university, I get Zoeys character is over exaggerated but since she is playing a young adult her actions are common in ALL races she is still learning that's the point
Keep dreaming ,
Omg you dont know how long I waited for this. I kept refreshing CZcams all day
YT was playing with my original upload so I had to re-upload bc I knew I had to get this up lol
I'm a new subscriber and your videos are great! And Grownish is one of my favorite shows so I'm so excited to hear your commentary
I really hope the production team watches this
I actually liked Moeisha as a character.
YeahIGotNuthin who’s Moeisha please?
Kel Rae moesha was a shoe in the 90s and brandy played moesha
YeahIGotNuthin
I did too lol. Moesha is one of my fav sitcoms
I loved the character of Moesha too
I watched 2 episodes of Grownish and I was done. I've never watched any more.
Blackish literally means biracial. They wanted a mixed family because it’s based off of an actual mixed raced family.
but their not a mixed race family.. bow only really acknowledges her black side and the kids are raced with both black mom and dad influences with majority black grandparants. and blackish has majority been used to refer to someones behavior. rarely their dna make up.
Exactly because that’s what mixed ish is for apparently so why not just come out with mixed ish in the first place and leave it at that. But now since they have the two shows blackish and mixedish both of which have the majority mixed cast so there needs to be some dividing factors because black is not mixed
MiyukiSawada240 they are a mixed family. Those kids have a white grandfather and white relatives. Being a quarter anything else makes it so that you were raised with the minority part of your racial makeup. My full black brother has children with a biracial women so this is exactly his children’s makeup and we consider them mixed. We don’t make them decide any race and want them acknowledge both their grandparents cultures and races.
Gemini Stone yeah, the problem with Kenya Burrus is redundancy based on identity. Blackish and Mixish are the same show in different stages of Bow’s life. Grownish is appropriately titled as Zoe’s current stage in life. If the dispute is that Zoe’s life isn’t “black enough” well sure, Zoe didn’t go to college to only acquaint herself in her own identity but to be exactly what she doing. Exploring everything. Let’s not forget most black kids in the US do not go to black colleges or have Hillman type college experience.
The issues seems that ppl wanted a version of a Different World but got the life of Zoe Johnson.
mc0325 that’s true but for me at least I wasn’t concerned with grownish and what kind of show that is
Ngl I turned the channel after 30 mins of it being on 😂💀
I tried to watch that show and the people in the writers room have never ever met or interacted with black youth.
I feel like what some ppl tend to gloss over is that the only full black main characters in the family are the father and his parents. Yes Bow is mixed but all of the kids would also be 1/4 white. We act like Dre had these kids with someone else and then married Bow. So what’s wrong with having half the cast mixed in real life? Also, Black-ish May have focused on Dre and Bow’s family but it also goes into their work experience, friends, family members... so we do get a peek into the minds and lives of other black characters. And DRE is the main character and the narrator, so really the show is focused on his experience. Matter-of-fact, Black-ish seems to mirror the creator’s personal life so that could also be why he choose who he chose
LaVidaRosa- the show is called Black-Ish not all black people are so sensitive so much now just except it for what it is , or create your own and just stop with the narrative it’s about the spectrum of Black not just so much of this colorist standpoint it meant to be funny not prevalent to a certain type of Black person.
I'm sure that I'm in the minority here, but I think Grownish is the best & most well written show on TV today! However, I think it will be more appropriated when it's syndication, like Everybody Hates Chris or What's Happening was! Also, eventhough it's supposed to be a comedy, it's built in a storytelling form, sorta like Insecure, that like any comedy, has jokes or silly situations but imo, smoothly transitions into the next episode & it's not really a studio audience /laugh track sitcom a la A Different World or Saved By The Bell that just goes from episode to episode with no attachments or connection to each other!
I think ppl expected for Grownish to be "The 2nd Coming" of A Different World, but I didn't, I guess that's why I appreciate it more! Also, if we're being honest, the 1st & 2nd season of Grownish was better than the Denise Huxtable seasons of A Different World, simply because Kenya Barris came out the gate swinging! Every episode was touching on topics that goes on in college life:
-Partying/drinking & drug addiction & dealing(Zoey/Ana/Viveck)
-The ups & downs of student athletes(Cash Mooney/The Twins)
-Experimenting/discovering ones sexuality(Nomi)
-Dating/Balancing school & social life(Zoey/The Twins/Doug, hell everyone in general)
-The role of social media
-Mental health(Aaron)
-Student Loans/Employment during & after college(Aaron, Doug & Zoey)
-Now pregnancy(Nomi)
TGF25 i agree. It’s not supposed to be like A Different World. We gotta stop with the comparison.
@@walkingwithlisa Exactly! They forgot what what A Different World was b4 Debbie Allen took over! It was like watching paint dry!! Bill Cosby & them didn't really know what they were doing!
The storytelling of Grownish is what separates Grownish from other shows about College life!
@@walkingwithlisa we can't stop comparing because that is the foundation of it's creation.
U was getting my hair braided last summer and my hair dresser out on grown ish i was hooked i love this show i did not expect it to be so good . I’m not sure what everyone’s expectations are i know there was issues about not enough dark skin women i think the sisters and yara represent black young girls well also the show is on the Freeform network which used to be the ABC family network so this show falls in line with the ABC family network programming I’m surprised they show the things they show on this tv show . The show is about zoeys college experience it has nothing to do about her being black in blackish her character is pretty much rhetoric same very self absorbed so i didn’t expect anything else from her
Regarding the show Blackish, I assumed the name was due to the fact of the biracial aspect. When we put ish on the end of words it denotes that the object is not 100%. Like Grown-ish they think they grown but they are not really they are still dependent on their parents and they are growing into their grown person.
Finally someone who agrees with me about Moesha 😂
This is not to insult anyone at all, but maybe the show isn't for your specific age demographic. The audience may be for younger people, like that 13-17 range, not full grown adults. I can agree that a lot of the time I am way more interested in the rest of the cast and I wish they would go into their story lines more. Some of the stuff that happens is unrealistic, especially in terms of the timeline and it all happening within one group of friends, but overall, I think Grown-ish is pretty relatable for a lot of middle class black college students attending PWI's.
I'm in the age demographic, a college student attending a PWI and the show is very unrealistic
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My mom and husband agree with your poll. I asked (years ago) if Obama's children are considered black and they both said 'no' they are biracial too. Very interesting.
They are only 1/4 white though. So they are black.
Zoey hairstylist always ate. Her hair was one of my favourite thing about her lmao
He wrote the show based on his life to a large degree. His wife is/was a mixed doctor. I don't acknowledge colorism among black people or with mixed people who identify as black.
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Do you think Moesha had any redeemable qualities about her cause even though I believe there are similarities between Moe and Yaras characters I feel like Moe had way more redeemable aspects to her
ツJani nope I don’t she was my least favorite besides Frank & Dorian
@@monetmonroe4644 I’m gonna disagree although Moesha was in peoples business and stuff like that she usually learns something by the end of the episode... she’s still very young and I don’t recall Moesha being conceded, confident yes but not conceded Zoey could be terrible through out a whole episode and literally not learn anything from it and she gets passes for huge wrong doings just for being Zoey where as Moesha will get punished and so on
@@jani4245 moesha was very much so conceited out of all the characters she had the most a nice two parent household (which for some reason she hated dee) and that bothered me because all dee wanted to do was get moesha s approval ! And then when dees niece came she was jealous of their relationship even though she ditched dee (girl was weird) but back to my conceited:ungrateful comment. Her father literally bought her a nice ass Saturn this girl wanted a jeep, so she went and got a raggedy behind hoopty because the roof let down (it consistently broke down) all because her dad wouldn’t get her a jeep! Moesha was very entitled
She broke Luca heart?? Did you watch the last episode on season 2?
For grownish, the better the character the less screen time they get. Chloe x Halle, Jillian, etc...
Yara shouldn’t be the lead she made me dislike the whole grownish thing chloe&haile are cool tho
Whoever the hair stylists for Zoe & the twins DEF needs a raise she be giving me hair style inspo tbh! But I honestly want them to fully remove Zoe lol. & possibly create a new main character or just keep the rest of the cast. The twins are the best actors on the show tbh to me bc they truly don’t act that way in real life if you ever watch their lives so they definitely embody the characters they are to portray. I simply don’t see how they’re friends with Ana bc she is such a raging Republican BUT she’s gotten a bit better through the seasons. Nomi is chill to me but she doesn’t fit in to me. I like the Luca and her friend type bc that actually meshes but the rest of the group? No. I wish they did better with Doug he should have more storylines. THEY DEF need to let Ryan have more storylines. I don’t see how they made the woke black revolutionary date the raging Republican... speaking of... he really don’t be on that revolutionary tip. He never speaks about any real revolutionaries like Fred Hampton or Khalid Muhammad. He’s doesn’t give off that vibe bc he be too nice to these white people to say he’s a “pro black revolutionary” PLUS he don’t even be that down with the sistas. I personally liked Cash’s character and wish they would’ve kept him not even with Zoe but just kept him. I do like the whole dating the athlete trope and honestly she should’ve stuck with that instead of the Luca, aaron thing. The whole pregnancy trope for nomi was sooooo unnecessary & stupid. But yeah I wish they would take the full on college experience route better in the show and it would be better
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Kenya Baris has a problem with dark skin people and that shows with the characters he has
I know this video is about Grown.ish but I wanted to respond to the comment about Black.ish having a biracial cast. The reason for this is in the last part of show's name ish. Andre as a black man is trying to stay true to his blackness despite the fact he's raising his family in the burbs and works in a field where it's dominated by white men. The fact that Bow is mixed, wouldn't it make sense to cast children that are biracial too? Also in a biracial family there is always one child that comes out a dark complexion, it's called genetics. Which is the reason for Diane on the show.
If a black person and a biracial person have children, they will come out predominantly black. I.e. Barrack and Michelle Obama's daughters
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The ana Aaron relationship didn't make no sense. Shes a whole Republican and hes so called woke. Not a lick of sense
It does. To me it represented Hoteps and how they date white women, and how they contradict themselves.
Kenya Barris is a guy, he's married to Dr. Rainbow in real life (such a cool thing)
they're divorced he's dating Diana Ross' daughter now
I could probably accept Grownish some. But I wish they NEVER made that Mixed-ish. I'll be SO glade when it gets canceled
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I love grownish. The writers are genius and the actors are so intriguing, everyone’s acting is professional and I appreciate the comedy. I look forward to watching this every week
The point of the ish in the name of the shows means not fully there but almost.
It’s called black-“ish”. That means they are not so black. The casting is accurate