Flat Earth: A Measured Response
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I don’t recall who said it, but a wise CZcamsr once said, “You don’t have to be mad at some invisible shadow government. You can just be mad at the actual government.”
Yep. The hilarious thing with conspiracy theorists is they're right that the government is screwing them but it's not a conspiracy. All the legal bribery, price gouging, lobbying, deregulation, distraction with culture war, refusal to consider actual problems etc. is done openly. It's bizarre they know they're being screwed over but not how when it's all in public record.
I'm pretty sure "miniminuteman" is the youtuber that you're referring to.
@@msa7933yes
^^ like he said, miniminuteman’s shorts debunking science illiterate conspiracies bring me so much joy
The person deleted their comment
@@smears6039
The funniest thing about this video is hearing Hbomb call a 45 minute video “too long”. He really had no idea.
*Thomas the Tallarico Engine has entered the chat
@@trouty606and now we have a new contender, sitting just shy of four hours!
Also being mad at how his hair looks after putting the sweater on
Yup, he just uploaded a 4 hr video and 20 mins separately on his 2nd channel because the video became "too long".
@@trouty606plagerism has entered the chat
My favorite response to people who think they hired Stanley Kubrick to fake the moon landing is that Kubrick's notorious perfectionism resulted in them actually going to the moon so it would look right.
Honestly every time they bring that up it makes me go "Did you actually watch 2001? Because there are some details in it that actual space exploration proved wrong, starting in that in 2001 the moon is depicted as having the same gravity as Earth."
@@MrGared22 To be fair in the late 1960s it would have been very expensive to shoot all of this footage with a lot off slow-motion and cables, and possibly look very silly. So minimizing exterior shots and avoiding calling attention on it made sense. Better put that budget for more important low-g scenes later in the film when they are flying to jupiter! Like kubrick and his team knew that a lot of scifi films end up looking very silly so he was careful with his special effects. It's why the film avoids compositing when it can for instance, as at the time it let artifact and the double exposure meant the footage looked very grainy. It's very visible in films like star wars (especially in fan restorations of the original cuts).
Being confronted by a random flat earther and casually saying "is this really happening?" is such a hilarious own
I especially liked the cry for help: "Selena, HELP!" 😂😂
*My chaotic ass now hoping it happens to me so I can debate*
@@seasnaill2589 it's not a debate if one side refuses to listen
@@BarioIDL it’s a debate if you make even crazier claims. tell them that yes, the Earth is flat, but also that it’s a frisbee and the world ends as soon as god’s dog catches it
@@wren_.That's what I plan to do. If someone starts talking about how the CIA assassinated JFK, I'm just gonna be like, "You still believe that JFK was assassinated? Fucking sheep".
Perhaps the real flat earth was the friends we made along the way.
bro...
You have now been subbed to
This really brightened up my morning.
Truly the wisest of philosophers
I may be flat...out there...but you're flat....in here!!
Government secret plans be like:
Step 1: convince people the world is round.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.
You saw nothing.....
@@thegovernment3864 nice name
All conspiracy governments be like:
1. Do thing with very light evidence that takes advantage of citizens
2. ???
3. Profit
@@QWeRTY-vf4ly
Beat me to it by 2 fucking days.
Amazing
My dad watched a documentary about flat earth “scientists” and said it was one of his favorite documentaries ever because everyone’s experiments to prove their beliefs failed and they just went “we will have to try again later” and the documentary ends just being like “so the earth is obviously flat” while literally everything you just watched proved the opposite
I think I know exactly which documentary he saw. It was hilarious. With the amount of bending over backwards they had to do to explain why their experiments "failed", I'm surprised their backs didn't snap.
I watched a bit of Behind the Curve, and at one point a guy comes up and he explains how he came to believe in the flat earth.
The whiplash is immense. He starts by saying the bible got him on the track, and then says "and then I realized: they want to keep you dumb. And then they can pump you full of their community education and vaccines."
For a fleeting glimpse, this guy was onto something. There are people who'll lie to you to fit their agenda, people with the resources to control what information makes its way to the common person.
And from this moment of realization he boomerangs straight back into stupidity by blaming vaccines.
That's just what the globeheads WANT you to think!
do you know the name of the documentary?
@@sehfisch2350 Oh, hey, we clicked on the vid around the same time
I think its called behind the curve
The only thing flat earthers fear, is sphere itself.
Shut-
No
😂
Outstanding move.
Bravo, I say
😂😂
Fucking hilarious. This doesn't have enough likes 😂
Take him to the edge, boys. He knows too much.
Wait, is this a kinky BSDM scenario or are we actually taking them to the edge of the Earth?
@@riccardoolivieri1159 Why not both?
@@riccardoolivieri1159 Both.
Both is good
The flat earthers were the real conspirators all along
uuh, actually H. Bomber Guy, the Earth is, uuh actually Boomerang shaped, that's how it flies around the sun.
And it was Sherlock who discovered it.
@@caitmonroe9349 beautiful
Yes
BIG BRAIN
"It was a fucking boomerang?"
"Always has been."
Fun fact: Greek scholar Eratosthenes chanced uppon the neat fact that once a year in Syene (an Egyptian town), the sunlight would reach the bottom of wells there. This is interesting, because that NEVER happens in Alexandria.
Using this info, he measured how far Alexandria is off the full zenith in Syene (an angle of 7°), and so calculated the curvature of the earth, and subsequently made a calculation of the full circumference of the earth, which was only 5% larger than the modern accepted value.
He did this in the 240s BCE.
oh my god thats really clever i love it
Yeah, those Greeks (and Egyptians, and Persians, and Indians …) where incredibly clever back then. Evolution seems to go backwards on us … (the shape of Earth was well established back then, it was what was going on in the sky what baffled them ;-)).
Obviously, dude, the Alexandrians were just lousy well diggers who couldn't dig down in a straight line. And everything Eratosthenes wrote was completely revised by the Vatican Council of Nicaea in 325. And Illuminati something.
Dang, I need to wash my keyboard now.
@@c.augustinI dont agree that we've gotten less smart. Some random Greek dude who died at war isnt nearly as notable as a scholar. It's just that random people who don't know anything are louder these days.
@@LSqre True. There have always been nutcases who refuse to believe anything but their own fantasies. The internet has not only allowed them to connect with others who share their beliefs, but also spread their ideas to others
I still cry laughing at that one image of the meteor hitting the "disc-world" and flipping the dinosaurs into space like a catapult.
I mean realistically, where else could they have gone?
I saw a meme where someone said they got banned from the flat earth discord for posting that image
@@jmatt440the person that got banned is none other than MandaloreGaming!
I've never hear of mandaloregaming@@StrikeWarlock
@@jmatt440imagine getting booted from that discord that your theory isn’t grounded in reality. Who’d’ve thunk?
The pride flag isn't straight lol
LMAO! Genius!
Hahaha
if you think about it the stripes shouldn't be straight
Only when it's waving
The linea are tho
People who is on the conspiracy:
-Every space agency.
-Every inteligence agency.
-Every astrophysicist.
-Every astronaut.
-Every astronomer.
-Every airline company.
-Every ship company.
-Every cruise company.
-Every shipping company.
-Every company with an operative satelite.
I think it stops being a conspiracy when you're the only person in the planet that is not in it.
Allow me to add "Every single company that uses a computer for their business (because computer chips have semiconducters which are based on quantum mechanics - and flerf logic says that quantum mechanics is fake)
I'm in on the conspiracy as well by the way :)
flerf - flat earth exclusionary radical feminist? the new term for discerning feminists everywhere?
bUT thE tRumaN shOW
Add to that:
- every company/agency that does large scale surveying
- every person that has ever been aboard an upper atmosphere flight with windows
- every person that has ever taken part in a trans-antarctic flight
- every person that has ever been to the South Pole
- either every historian *or* everyone who circumvented the Earth ever as well as Aristoteles and dozens of other pre- and post-socratic philosophers who also formulated proofs of the Earth being a globe
What Tommy hasn't realized, probably unwittingly, is that if the conspiracy theorists are correct, he is a part of that conspiracy.
So....-Every person attempting to discount this conspiracy theory, for a different conspiracy theory.
Like I said though, in sheer ignorance of enough of the facts to actually make these kinds of determinations, just going along with the herd as their science teachers taught them early what to expect if you question the belief they are teaching.
Many a broken yardsticks and children ridiculed, have concreted this into young people's minds.
My favorite thing about the Patricia situation is that one piece of evidence they cite for her being CIA is that her name is PatriCIA
Well everyone knows that all women that start working for the CIA have to change their name to something that includes CIA in it, duh
LMAO
I love the idea that the CIA absolutely _could not_ plant someone into their ranks without them having CIA in their name omg. How else would other CIA people know she was the one?!
You're joking. Please ... Please, say you're joking ...
Oh Sh*t! That would mean that I'm also part of the CIA. Damn! They need to send me some back pay!
to cut a 10 page story short; my mother raised our family as flat earthers and conspiracy theorists (a whole fucking bunch of different things because flat earth is just a gateway for that), i managed to break out of it some years ago and now they hate me for it. It doesn't matter what you show them, you could literally strap them on a rocket and go to the moon and they'll say "this is fake", they are so deep into their beliefs that they will make up anything to fit their narrative. They are ignorant, hypocritical and frankly obnoxious. I hate whoever convinced my poor gullible mother and changed all of our lives for the worse.
At some point it is simple not possible for an individual person to acknowledge wrongdoing. Because this would come with a bunch of guilt, what this person had done to other human beings. Also you would have to admit how stupid you have been.
So this "awakening" only works if a big group is forced to open the eyes at once, like it did in Germany mid 40s to early 50s.
If all around you also have to acknowledge they have been wrong, this is doable without the loss of face and the guilt is spread on more shoulders.
All the best for you and your mum! May try to agree to not agree on this topics...
@nils9853 when your lifestyle is based around a lie, acknowledging it is terrifying. Everything unravels
@@heavenly2k But...how does your lifestyle change if you abandon flat earth? Other than posting bizzare rants on Twitter, literally nothing. Unless they actually do eat babies like they say.
@Killbayne There's a very sad reason why she probably won't change her beliefs even if you took her on a rocket trip so she could see the curve herself. It's because if she admitted it, she would now have to live with the reality that she ruined her relationship with her child. That she probably ruined many more relationships, and that the relationships she DOES have are all built on a lie. She'd have to admit to you and herself that she was horrible to you for NOTHING. Doing something like that is so painful that most people would rather not do it at all. Admitting that you're wrong requires a lot of strength, strength most people don't have.
This is the worst part about conspiracy theories, pseudoscience, cults, and other professional liars. It's that the people who get invested in them ruin their lives socially and financially with nothing to show for it.
im curious how you broke out of it
I just realized that the only reason someone would assume that the moon shoots cold beams is by thinking "well the sun shoots beams that are hot, so the moon must do the opposite" like this is Avatar the Last Airbender or something
Its like theyre drinking cactus juice
@@InForTheLonghaul proof everyone needs a closed ecosystem jar.
Well, at least that explains why my cabbages turned out flat.
@@InForTheLonghaul "yes!!yes it can!"
@@neoqwerty actually, thats a reference to atla, a cartoon.
Um actually sobek didn’t literally have a crocodile head, it was supposed to represent both his crocodile and human form simultaneously. Entire video disproven, earth is actually flat
Hey you convinced me.
Take that globeheads!
He was a literal reptile alien !
@@hanniffydinn6019 Literal semen demon
Something something lizard brain something Reptilian overlords
Every time some flat earther claims that they "rely their eyes" to confirm their claims, all I can think is "objects in mirror are closer than they appear".
All I can think is: "I wear glasses and had books with optical illusions in them as a kid".
Naïve realism is really naïve.
Nah I'd pull out the father Ted "these cows are small but the ones out there are far away..."
my immediate thought was, "you can't see air, do you not believe in air either?"
It's especially ironic when it comes from a noble prize winner but then there's a Wikipedia page talking about noble disease so it's not surprising, the guy who discovered anaphylaxis ended up believing in ghosts, the supernatural and whatnot quackery.
I watched the Flat Earth documentary on Netflix a few years back. It was infuriating, yes, but after a while you started getting attached to the little buggers. They were trying so hard, they even actually did an experiment! The experiment didn't work because it was poorly planned out but they tried!
And there was this little unrequited love story and then they all had a con together and they were so happy and I was like "You know what? Good for them. Who are they hurting?"
... And then they started talking about antivaxxing, being homophobic, transphobic, antisemitic and I was like oh yeah. Right.
It's all fun and games until you realize Flat Earth is one of the many conspiracy theories that ended up siphoning followers to QAnon.
*Jahzzar's "Fastest Man on Earth" starts playing*
@@iantkach6640 yep, it’s sad. Flat earth on its own is stupid but in my opinion for the most part harmless. (With the exception of the likes of the screaming ‘the Apollo 6 id a crackhouse’ raw meat man) the problem is that it leads into other more harmful ideologies such as qanon
Its this way for basically all superstition. You go well she just thinks ghosts help with her cold its cute really and then it becomes oh fuck she refuses to go foe chemo and to vaccinate her child because she thinks its all ghosts
“You can be a little silly as a treat I suppose”
“Abominations like you should be burned in camps”
“Oh. Right. You’re not being silly right now. Oh god 😒”
😆
Have you ever considered that IF the Earth was flat the Edge would be the greatest tourist attraction on the " planet "
lmFAO-
"STEP RIGHT UP STEP RIGHT UP AND PEER OFF THE EDGE OF THE EARTH!!!"
I would go there, I would stare, I would jump off the edge.
@@Religion0 And, hopefully, take a few thousand flattards with you.
"FIFTY DOLLARS TO BUNGIE JUMP OFF THE EDGE OF THE EARTH, STEP RIGHT UP, DIVE OFF THE WORLD!
My favorite bit of flat earth lore is the concept that gravity doesn't exist, and we're only stuck to the earth's surface because the flat disc is moving upward really fast
"Gravity doesn't exist" is the basis for like 90% of flat earth science arguments
Legit that's so funny. Especially because many of these people are also skeptical of the fact that the earth spins at a speed of 1000 miles per hour, saying stuff like "oh if it's spinning so fast then why can't I feel it". Using their logic then why am I not crushed by the overwhelming upwards speed? Or why can't I feel it?
Technically for this to reflect reality, the earth would have to be ACCELERATING upwards, mimicking acceleration due to gravity of objects in freefall near the surface of the earth. A subtle difference, but I personally find it really interesting specifically because it conflicts with Einstein's laws of relativity. (I think? I feel like there was something where, once you approach the speed of light, you still continue to feel like you're accelerating at the same rate, but you're actually accelerating really slowly and relativistic effects are compensating for the rest... but even then, that would still result in a world where all light that isn't shot straight up just slams into the ground from the absurd speeds)
Most don’t even try the upwards accelerating disc anymore. Now they say it’s either electromagnetism somehow or “Relative Density Disequilibrium” which is one of their new favorite ideas because they can’t understand why density and buoyancy require gravity. Flat earth is so great.
There are globeheads who kinda believe that too -- expansion theory says that gravity doesn't exist, it's just that everything in the universe is always getting bigger, so when you drop an apple, the earth is expanding out toward the apple and the apple is expanding toward the earth so they end up meeting
I like how airlines have fake flights just to mess with a specific group of flat earthers.
That's always been the funniest aspect of conspiracies, to me. Just the idea that whole masses of people-without any evidence confirming their apparent roles, with indefinite prep time, planning, and management-do things specifically to throw off those who already "know" from the right track; but are also simultaneously so clumsy that literally anyone from anywhere could "figure out the truth" by just...idk...looking at stuff and trusting their gut! It's like incoherence as an art form, or a practice.
Whenever I hear conspiracy theories like this, I'm just like, "Why does the government need to cover this up?". The reason is always just something made up on the spot to keep themselves in their delusions.
@@megamillion5852 I think it's a form of the Truman Disorder, where people think they themselves, or a group of people who know the 'truth', are in a Truman Show, and everyone else are actors/try to hide 'the truth' from them. It's yet another weird but fascinating type of delusion that most conspiracy theorists have, and it explains some of the 'us vs them' mentality imo. Flat earthers are just that special kind of tragicomic weirdness, whenever I watch a doc of theirs for some light entertainment I feel like Attenbourough is about to do a voiceover
Oh no, you misunderstand. That small group are the only people they can't fool. They are doing is to fool EVERYONE ELSE. This goes all the way to the top...
I think that the most definitive proof that the earth is round is the fact that if it were actually flat, said edge would be commercialized to hell. You wouldn't be able to stop people from trying to sell the experience of going there.
the government wouldn't have to think about disposal of nuclear waste. just throw it into the void
Earth being flat doesn't automatically means it has an edge.
We are not the only pond on this plane - and what we call "Antarctica" is commercialized to hell - just not for the inhabitants of this pond.
The Internet has taught me that as soon as a guy says Female in a non-scientific context it's time to ignore all the words that follow if you don't want your ears to bleed.
"female? More like 'reeeeeemale' amirite?"
Is this why femoid is a thing? -jeez they're smarter than I thought-
YEEEEESSSSSS
People who use female like that are just... Grosd people with a superiority complex.
what about when it's used in sociological/anthropological/historical/linguistic contexts tho ;)
“There’s no direct flights from Australia to South America.”
sees direct flights scheduled from Sydney to Santiago
“That’s not real.”
Santiago is not real... oh wait im from there
@Tomi Tuominen Omg! *fades...* aaah it hurts!
I think now they do say it is real, but now they're invoking some 200mph (so basically hurricane speed) winds that circle the flat Earth that magically make these direct flights possible. Never mind that these flights exist both ways and somehow these wind currents reverse when necessary.
And of course, if everything else fails they can always just shout "CONSPIRACY! They are telling us we are flying at different speeds/different path than in reality!".
@@TheCabIe Maybe we're all on the world of Avatar: the Last Airbender (post-Korra), and there are air benders controlling the wind currents--likely on the ice wall...no. I can't drag ATLA into this--b/c that show had a *North and South Pole* (where the Northern and Southern Water Tribes lived in-show), implying that even that cartoon fantasy world had the concept of a round earth.
If we could all just *ignore* these imbeciles, they'd go away on their own. :(
Australia does not exist
Got approached by an elderly flat earther on my college campus once. He completely ignored me(nb) and talked exclusively to two women studying for a physics exam. He demonstrated his point with a Mario figurine and a stress ball. He went on about the horizon thing. when the two women demonstrated that they could prove mathematically that he was wrong, he claimed their math teachers were in on the conspiracy and fled.
Sounds about right. Just imagine him running home and curling up into a ball crying about how everyone's wrong and he's correct lol
@@CHRB-nn6qphe would probably rather lie flat.
@@King-of-Corvids nicely done. I see what you did there
I didn't know being nb had social advantages. Thanks!
they eat him up tbh
The fact that Logan Paul was a flat earther somewhat supports my assumption that the Pauls are actively trying to make humanity less intelligent
Oh really? And here i thought i couldn't lose any more respect for those two lol
Logan Paul isn't really a human being. He's a flesh automation crafted by aliens using DNA found in hitler's other testicle to be used as a psy-weapon to collectively divide and frighten all of humanity.
New Theory: The Earth is a compressed jpeg file on god's Windows 94
So all the lakes are just JPEG artifacts?
Ky Lynch Great!!!.This makes sense and sounds like science to me.Plus you look smart as well,so yeah,I can see you are telling the true.Thank you
@@morrisgordon9618 thank you I will not be accepting any questions at this time and also ever
@@kylynch198 aahh you're soo sweet and warm.I would sent my huggs, but you just another A.I bot send from the future.To provide evidence the Earth is flat.Dont worry, I will be going around the World.Telling the people the World is flat and teaching them this new theory.Which is now called the Lynch theory.
@@l-l it exists I can see it with my eyes and the government is just hiding it. As I stated before I will NOT be taking any questions and also no criticism thank you I am definitely correct
Yeah, but you've got to admit having the north pole at the center of the earth explains a lot about how Santa Claus can visit every house during Christmas night
fr fr
Welp, I'm convinced!
(Seriously though, this made me laugh 💕 thanks)
That’s bs. If that was the case, I wouldn’t have lost €90 and my package for the North Pole Customs Duty to email me that they “lost it on the way to Greenland.”
Lesson: never wish for a SAM Turret from that red bastard Santa Claus.
best comment
@MotherTongue Just don't put yourself in a position where that red bastard Santa Claus can lose your package
You know, watching someone joking about and debunking flat earth suddenly get serious and become angry that all these men are harassing a women just because shes a women is honestly kinda heartwarming.
It's so weird to see footage of Abigail's missing brother Oliver all these years later. I wish Abigail all the best with her acting career.
I come from the future with news that Abigail has written a film and it's going to be made in Hollywood!
People who land here with no context are going to be very confused
@@lilianamartins6160 lol can confirm - am confused
@@lilianamartins6160 You're right, no idea what these quotes fucking means
@@ayrtonjogaAbigail Thorne, A.K.A. PhilosophyTube is a video essayist here on CZcams. She’s trans and before she came out, used to go by Oliver. 😊
As an Australian I'm deeply offended nobody brought up that we don't exist, and that i'm not being payed to pretend to exist
if i emigrate into aussie land, will i get payed as well?
@@cosmin00ful finally, an ethical and painless way to end the burden of existing: moving to australia
Australia exists, obviously! What doesn't really exists is the brazilian state of Acre. What is actually there is up for debate
@@lud3445 you fool. it's canada that doesn't exist
@@rileymack1489 not the way i saw this and then immediately disappeared.
As a vegan anti-fascist rapper, thank you for introducing me to my arch nemesis
i will become a carnivorous antifascist very slow speaker to oppose him harder
Vegan rapper beef is the only carbon neutral beef!
wat@@inimitableminimalist
@@clown134Beef is slang for having a fight with someone else
Internet beef = people fighting over the internet
@@AtlasNLhello person from 7 hours ago. Could it be that you're (re?)watching hbomberguy's videos because he uploaded a new one? Are you part of that wave?
What baffles me is that you can see that the world is round just by going to any port in the world and watching a ship literally dip over the horizon.
oh boi, lemme tell you about the water mountain
@@BarioIDLI'm sorry the what
@@SpoopySquid An old post. It goes something like this:
Flat Earther: Why do Ball Earthists deny the existence of Water Mountains?
Ball Earthist: I'm almost scared to ask but.. What's a water mountain?
Flat Earther: Water mountains are what ships disappear behind in the sea.
Ball Earthists are just too stupid to recognize them or acknowledge them, so they claim it's evidence of a Ball Earth.
Ball Earthist: Do you have any evidence of these "Water, mountains"?
Flat Earther: Have you ever seen a ship disappear?
Water mountain.
Naw they just fall off. Every ship ever. Wheeee
I was tought in Sunday school that that one Bible verse that says gods love for us spans "as far as the east is from the west" was an argument for the global earth, because you can go east forever and you can go west forever, without it ever changing (like gods love or whatever). But you can only go north so far before you're going south, and vice versa. My catholic-adjacent church argued for science in this case. Just an interesting bit to share.
Interesting take ngl
Take that flat earthers.
really cool take but doesn't that also apply to a flat earth
You'd just be going around the circumference, for want of better phrasing
@@thatoneguy9582 it kinda does though. East and west have no pole, the edge of a flat earth model isn't going East or west at all, you'd have to do some true gymnastics to get a circumference from that Bible verse. Plus according to them you're not allowed to see the edge anyways despite the fact that would be one of the most lucrative tourism destinations on the planet
@@highjumpstudios2384
circumference isn't the right word im just braindead rn and struggling to think of the right word lmao- what i mean is you could still continuously go east/west just as easily on a flat earth as on the actual earth, it'd just be in a circle instead of a straight line
Only a few minutes in, but I feel like pointing out that the Maya not only knew the Earth was a globe, but actually accepted heliocentrism long before Europe. In my translation studies class we actually looked at some pretty funny documents where Mayan translators were taking Spanish models of the universe and adding pretty funny commentary that boiled down to "these guys actually believe this shit lol."
Thanks, I really wanted someone else to point that out.
I have a deep desire to see this, can you point me in any special direction!?
accepted, not proven
I'd also like to see that Mayan part, if not but for the giggles at some old-timey pointing and laughing. Also, to add to the pile; every single sea-faring person knew the earth was round. It's why ships tend to have this tall thing in the middle; it's used for seeing really freakin' far. Why would we need this if not to 'keep things from vanishing behind the horizon line'.
I thought the mayan empire fell apart before the Spanish arrived?
Correction: Y'all been duped. They're actually saying FLAC-earthers. The earth is just one high quality audio file that God listens to while he does his sit-ups.
don't forget to stretch up there G man
Great joke.
I can't put into words how wrong you are. Obviously they say FLAK earth, the earth really is a giant German aa gun
Obviously, they meant FLAP earth, and the world is actually a massive floppy disk that broke after the 90's and all it's disco music is now glitchy electronica.
I thought it was the FLAN earth, and the world is a giant delicious custard with caramel sauce, selfishly hidden by the elites who want to keep its sugary goodness to themselves.
My favourite way to defuse or at least fuck with conspiracy theorists is to propose and even more insane theory, “The moon landing was faked-“ “You really believe in the moon?”
im gonna steal this tactic if you dont mind
No, it's not, you just heard that once
@@vulpes7079they don't have to have personally used it for it to be their favorite method lol
"There are no systems in place to prevent another massive financial crash" - Hbomberguy, 2018. Five years later, and this quote has aged like a *fine wine*
"There are NO direct flights from A to B"
"Yeah there is, here"
".... that one doesn't count"
"That one doesn't exist"*
Anything is true if you ignore all evidence to the contrary.
these fkers think they live in a Michael bay movie
THEY LIE !!!
Yeah, welcome to 95% of conspiracy theorists. "This thing disproves what I said? Nah, it's false evidence. What proof do I have that it's false evidence? None, but I don't need any because I've already decided I'm right and thus anything that points to the contrary cannot be correct."
It's a bizarre combination of confidence, idiocy, and laziness."
When your creationist-fueled conspiracy theory is so out-dated the Ancient Greeks already disproved it
They did it with two sticks, shadows, a well, and some maths. These guys have the entire internet at their disposal.
@@jakedominguez118 *math
@@megahunterkiller maths is acceptable as well. Both math and maths are correct abbreviations of mathematics, math is preferred in the US and Canada, but the UK uses maths more.
@@munstrumridcully I love when Americans try to correct someone for using British English.
@@Kickiusz indeed :)
"Anywhere in this hemisphere."
Anywhere in the hemi-what, Mark?
He meant hemisphircle
Getting my hands on a crocodile was hard enough, what with the EPA being on my case, and the transport and everything. The oil for mummification on the other hand was pretty easy, I got my contacts with Wiccan apothecaries who could mix up a batch in short notice. I had to spend a few grands on the linen to wrap up the corpse, too, but at least that's the most legal thing to acquire. It took me a lot of time and effort, but fortunately I was able to perform the ceremony properly and appease Lord Sobek for this year.
Just saying, you're all welcome. Maybe one of you wants to pick up the slack later on?
Pfffffffffffffft
Crocodile mummification rites in THIS economy? Man fuck you guy, I got 3 cats to feed and a consumerist addiction to perpetuate. Becky wants his crocs so bad he can come down to Florida like the rest of us hard-workin' folk!
Uhmmm, sorry, i'm vegan...
@@LeafHuntressyou must
Vegan means you don't EAT it, get on it!
As an Australian I am greatly offended by the suggestion that Qantas is competent enough to help uphold an international conspiracy.
What about an Episode about Autism though!!
C'mon!
as someone who's been on qantas, I'm also offended by the suggestion that wantas is competent enough to help uphold this international conspiracy.
Ignoring that Qantas is actually, compared to the rest of the world's airlines, really good.
@@davros_adl8155 I've been on tons of planes for my work.
Qantas is very much in the lower end of quality.
@@themasteronhigh1665 Speaking from my (lesser, and you're probably right) experience, Qantas beats Finnish, United, Virgin Australia, American Airlines. Just my personal experience with not many airlines though.
"Don't wear this shirt in public, no one will want to be your friend." No, certain people WILL want to be your friend, which is actually worse
Yeah, imagine being approached in public by a *HBomber fan* 😖
@@sofastuffing *Hail Sobek.*
i WOULD wear a Hail Sobek shirt tho
The wrong kinds of friends, yeah. :p
Absolutely maddening that upon finding evidence that he's wrong he just simply says "I don't think those are real". Literally evidence from the same source he's using to prove that he's right. Really sums up the mindset of the entire movement. There really is no arguing with these people, they're just too emotionally tied to whatever they believe that nothing else matters.
I just want to point out that a Ancient Greek guy figured out the shape/size of the earth using 2 sticks and a well
the common flat earth rebuttal is that you could get the same results from that experiment on a flat earth if the sun was in a certain spot. that’s true, however that “certain spot” is literally right above the earth, like in the atmosphere right above the clouds. which is clearly not the case.
“Society utterly fucking collapsed when I wasn’t looking or something” new favorite CZcamsr quote right there.
literally
I read that as he said that that was perfect timing
@@cosmicshadow2107 dude actually same
Time stamp for that quote?
@@Dontworryaboutit961 2:08 :)
The earth was originally a cube but over time the corners were rounded by the relentless wind of the universal ether.
So Pico did gnaw it all!
i can't tell if you're joking or not
Just like the new windows 11 design
Erosion is a hell of a thing
@@placeholder4029 Joking.
Roboticist here, there is a way to perfectly correct fisheye, and we do it all the time in computer vision. it can either be calculated from the optics inside a camera, and a whole buncha linear algebra, or by calibrating against a known flat line, as you noted. The particular calibration is called the intrinsic martix of the camera, and im willing to bet that if you look up that particular camera's intrinsics, there will still be a curved horizon.
Props for doing your research, im perpetually impressed!
This is like watching Doctor Who and I'm seeing a different incarnation of the Doctor
Hail Sobek
Hail Jeb
LoL 😄 good one... wait a minute...
This is the internet. 🤔
😱 He is just joking everyone, he is just joking!
@@grimsong2237 yes very peculiar
@@grimsong2237 I'm definitely joking. Very much not a Nazi. Just to be clear.
And may your jizzing be everlasting!
Flat Earth guy goes to a bar and randomly asks people to debunk the flat Earth theory.
They call him an idiot and he's asked to leave by the bar's owner.
Flat Earth guy: "I think this was a productive day".
Geez, until I finished watching I thought this was a joke.
I bet he found at least one person who stood up to him and countered every point he made, and he promptly cut that person from the video.
@@nicosonico94 Nope. He would have kept it in and talked about how he *TOTALLY REKT that GLOBER*
@@nicosonico94 countering points with unproven theories doent win a debate lol the truth is as everyday people we cannot conclusively prove it either way
@@bobbywizdum5248 As everyday people, we cannot conclusively prove ANYTHING. This doesn't mean we cannot look up evidence and use our brains. Can you conclusively prove that not breathing will kill you? Nope, you've never tried. But with a bit of research, you can find reported cases of people who stopped breathing and died. Therefore, you can probably derive that it's better to keep doing it.
Of course, as a normal person, you're not able to fly into space and look at the globe to verify that it is, in fact, a globe. However, you can look up evidence, do the math, or simply just stare at the open ocean to notice the curvature. Even a big lake is enough, I know by experience. But I guess you're gonna say my eyes have been replaced by fish-eye lenses anyway, so why am I even wasting time.
As a retail worker, can confirm that if someone is ranting to me about one of their conspiracy theories, I will simply smile and nod until they leave me alone
The best argument against a Flat earth is capitalism: You're telling me people wouldn't just dump garbage of the edge rather than recycle?
Seen the Capitalism-videos by 'Some More News'?
That and it'd be a huge tourist attraction, and nothing will get between greedy politicians and money
The HP Sauce ensures my harvest is plentiful and my sperm is neverending.
Slorp
Bring that gag back!!!!!!!
Just imagine what Szechuan Sauce would do!
Left Wing CZcams Extended Universe confirmed
Are HP Sauce and Brown Sauce roughly the same thing?
They taste very similar to me, and I got similar but different specific responses when I asked what they were.
Before I tried either, I asked about them. If I encountered Brown Sauce on a table in a pub, I asked “What’s Brown Sauce?” And the only reply I got was “It’s Brown Sauce,” as if to say “I don’t know what’s in it, but it’s its own thing, different from any Sauce you’re familiar with in the states.”
If I encountered HP Sauce, I asked “What’s HP Sauce?” And the reply was always “It’s HP Sauce,” but the meta message was the same, I think.
After having tried both of them, I know that my reply to anyone asking what either of them are would be the same for both, AND it would be more helpful to a US citizen. I would say, “it’s like ketchup in the US, but it’s sweeter and tangier because there are apples in it, and there’s more vinegar.”
Hahahahaha that one girl in the flat Earth video:
"Oh God... Is this really happening?
Selena help."
Lol that girl was awesome
There is also the added irony that the name „Selena“ comes from „Selene“ who in greek mythology is the godess of the moon.
Plot twist: Selena is actually literally the moon and it comes crashing down and defeats the flat-Earther with lacts and fogic
@TheDoubleAgent Hi
@TheDoubleAgent lmfao
Hi
When did science become "left wing". Actually depressing that people denounce science because "conspiracy and woke hurrdurr"
To these people all of reality is left wing.
The problem the right suffers from is that their idelogy can in most cases be debunked by actual evidence and research. Climate denial? Yep, debunked. Eugenics? Debunked a long time ago. Trickle Down Economics? Proven not to work. Claiming homosexuals are both a moral fault and a disease at the same time? Yeah, sorry rightwingers, the proof's not on your side. The election was stolen? Even your selfappointed judges say they weren't. The real irony is the right has been proven wrong about literally everything they stand for. It's an outdated form of denialist escapism for people who want to live life as their own little autonomous dictatorships pretending actions don't have consequences.
Science becomes politicized the moment it threatens profits or religious beliefs
People pick and warp what fits their narrative. Covid vaccines work 100% but a man can become a women?
The right has long since had an anti intellectual streak because of their lack of respect for humanities and soft sciences (and academia as a whole but they *really* hate humanities and soft sciences)
Thing is, you tend to be less extremely bigoted once you meet a bunch of people in uni. You get out of your own bubble and explore new viewpoints.
If your entire ideology revolves around the conservation of tradition and a certain state of the world, then people going out and trying new things and maybe liking them better is going to put a wrench in your machine.
Not everyone comes home from uni less conservative, but many many many people do. No wonder they hate science. It keeps proving a bunch of their shit ass beliefs wrong and then they have to argue with their adult children at Christmas
Wild to say "The Egyptians knew the Earth was flat and did things that we still cant do today!" when Egypt was very likely *the first civilization to prove the Earth was round*, when Eratosthenes sent two hourglass to Alexanderia and Syene to measure the shadows of tall buildings.
Also, what exactly did the Egyptians do that we can't do? Like sure, at the time what they did was very impressive, but I'm POSITIVE we could build every structure they built to the exact same specifications of height and shape, just with some cranes and cement-mixers. Again what they did back then is impressive, sure, but it's all stuff we could easily do today as well.
I think it's hilarious people believe the ancient Egyptians did things we still can't do today. Like what? Build the Pyramids of Giza? Bigger and more complex buildings are routinely built to house poor people as well as work spaces for corporations and governments. If we took an ancient Egyptian and showed him modern day Egypt, he'd think we're all gods.
@@warmachineukThe fact people think stacking stones in a pyramid shape is far more complex than a skyscraper shows how little people understand architecture and how any idiot can stack stones.
@@warmachineuk To be fair, the Ancient Egyptians were better than us at one thing: Long-term thinking. Could you imagine the modern world spending a proportionally similar amount of effort to build something intended to last thousands of years?
@@rohanmelling8466 It wasn't "any idiot", some careful thought clearly went into the design, considering the proportions etc.
The flat Earth movement is so last year. I believe there's no Earth
we're actually on earth 2
@@pokiyapa
...goddamnit Barry...
@@oscarmccormack1611 sorry. I was running too fast
can't wait to live on earth 69
@@pokiyapa so when's earth 3 coming out and is it gonna be a prequel?
The earth is flat because jpeg compression artefacts lmao
jpeg = Just Perish, Enemy Globe
@@vilukisu this is a very underrated comment, like the opposite of timecube. Cheers
THAT’S WHY I DON’T TRUST NASA!!!
The Moon is also flat, because jpeg compression. Or the moon is fake. Or something...
@tiglath pileser Well whatever the lizard people are projecting it onto, I need it for my IMAX project could you please let Soros know this thanks
That guy with the guitar saying how hilarious this is and that he was making a fool of himself was honestly the nicest ive seen someone react in public to these people. There was almost an element of pity when he told him he was making a fool of himself. Like he wanted the crazy dude to stop for his own sake
it wasn’t until my 50th rewatch of this that i realized that guy trying to argue with strangers is arguing about those drinking bird toys.
To quote my religious mother: "if the earth was flat, cats would have knocked everything off the edge by now"
@@nenmaster5218 buddy, it's a joke about how he's not a flat earther
@@nenmaster5218 you did not read to comment then self promoted your other channel classy
@@nenmaster5218 wow logic
@@nenmaster5218 who hurt you
@@nenmaster5218 really being offended by a CZcams comment. You must have a sad life.
Sobek, arriving early to the party: "I have come."
Renenutet, his wife: "Too quickly, as usual..."
Damn Renenutet sick spurn
@Dalton Fitzgerald I'm a Sobek fanboy so no thanks
Seth even brought a coffin to the party!
"SPERM IS THE ONLY NECESSARY COMPONENT OF THIS UNION"
Is making it last necessarily a logical goal for the god of jizz?
New favorite quote: "Oh god... Is this really happening? Selena help!"
I'm actually impressed. She was approached by a rando filming her while pushing a conspiracy theory and she was able to drop two iconic lines.
As someone who actually lives in Santiago, Chile, it is absolutely HILARIOUS to watch people try to use us as proof. There really isn’t that much traffic between here and Australia, as far as I know, and it’d mostly be touristic or family visits- Never any urgency. Routing it through North America makes a lot of sense economically since there’s much more demand to the US.
I live in Washington and I've never personally seen Mark Sargent in person so basically what I'm saying is that I have serious doubts that he lives in Washington or is even real at all.
"There are no government records of any kind regarding the existence of Mark Sargent."
*is shown his birth certificate and driver's license*
"I don't think those are real"
It seems that he is real, and you should be happy if you never have the misfortune ever to encounter him in person.
Me too dude.
Best comment, best comment right here, no comment in the history of comments will top this
@@brifox Okay okay, "Brings Mark Sargent to you"
*Mark Sargent: Hello, I'm mark sargent and i'm a real person!*
"Hbomberguy? Well thats a name I haven't heard in a long time.....a long time."
"Not since the fall of Sargon... Now back inside boys, it's curfew again."
He's becoming like Jontron, except not racist and his content uploads never turn out to be half-an-hour-long commercials.
What about that fellow with the purple eyes? Wtf was his name?
Thing is, Hbomb is a filthy comulist so it evens out.
@@hexamex I understood that reference
You wanna know the funniest bit of this conspiracy theory?
Who is conspiring?
What would they have to gain?
The theory is so incredibly hard to wrap your head... Around that it creates an insanely convoluted series of excuses and complications to explain a concept that would never... Function.
Wow.
45 people liked this comment.
Wow.
That's like...
More than 27
If you actually ask a member of flat gang that question, it suddenly becomes a whole lot less funny. Because nine times outta ten, the answer to "who's doing the lying" is "the Jews"
Flat earth is not an idea that can exist on its own. To be down with flat gang, you have to believe in many other irrational ideas as well, including the ones that say there is a group of people who are secretly controlling the world. And we all know what the most common conspiracy of that type is.
That’s always the wild thing to me. At the end of the day conspiracy theorists don’t really care about “why” whoever they’re upset with would do anything. They’ll make up reasons all day, but they don’t care how ridiculous what they’re saying is. It’s backwards logic, goin “this person says something I don’t like -> it can’t be true because I don’t like it -> it can’t be true and I don’t like it so they MUST be bad -> they’re bad so they’re doing bad things -> they’re doing this to continue doing bad things -> the bad things are whatever I’m told they’re doing”. It’s a wild train of logic that’s so contrived and is entirely based on what the theorist already believed beforehand, absolute travesty lol
It’s pushed by ball makers in order to increase sales of spherical objects. Truly evil.
The only argument I've heard from flat earthers about who is benefiting is that it's a ploy for NASA to steal their tax dollars on fake space programs because, of course, space isn't real. Completely ignoring the fact that according to their worldview every world government would have to be in on this, the majority of which do not have space programs.
38:35 “Fucking OOPS” literally made me spit out my coffee onto the dash of my car. Immediately subbed.
“I don’t think those flights actually exist” Well I guess I dreamt flying for thirteen hours from Johannesburg to Sydney and noticed nothing but ocean.
The question is, was that ocean flat?
that was the cgi projected onto what you thought were windows, and to prevent you from seeing the midair refuelling. or something
If a flat earther took that flight they’d be like “wow I must be part of the conspiracy too, I can’t even trust myself now”
@@nodtothestrange1008 NASA must have hacked my eyes!
Australia doesn't exit, so the real question is... where did you go? and what was it like on the other side of the ice wall?
This reminds me of a flat-earther that wanted to go to space on a steam-powered rocket to "prove" the Earth is flat. Turns out, not believing in rocket science when you are building a rocket is fatal.
I'm pretty sure that guy was a daredevil and had an obsession with flying homemade rockets, seeing how dumb flat earthers were he declared himself a flat earther and got a bunch of idiots to fund his entertainment.
@@naf5567 Could be that, I guess, groups like that are always full of grifting. Nonetheless, his idea of a rocket was not smart either.
@@mute1085 He was a daredevil, so I guess it's justified, they do wacky and dangerous shit all the time
I heard about that guy. What a doofus. Darwin Awards in action.
To guys like that, I say, "How about raising money, so you can take yourself and a camcorder / cell-phone camera on a U2 plane ride?"
@@naf5567 That's actually right. He was just grifting the flat earthers so he could do his stunt. Lol. Rest in peace
PhilosophyTube with he/him pronouns, hbomberguy with hair. It was a different time 😂
God...what a lifetime ago.
@@ledzeppelinfan1001 Holy shit it's the Adam Ragusea sort by new guy.
Who is back watching old Hbomberguy videos after the new one dropped?? Because I sure am
Yep.
Broke: Flat Earth
Woke: Cubical Earth
Victoria nah, the earth is a THICC dinosaur
Woke: the earth is shaped like some of those maps where it is broken up into oval-like shapes (also I like your icon)
@@jordanwait7264 Thank you!
@@NonApplicable1983
THE EARTH IS A PYRAMID, WAKE UP AMERICA
"At least under Feudalism we had job security." That was simultaneously the funniest and saddest quote from this video 🤣
girl I literally think about that quote like once a week here in late stage capitalism lmao
It is horribly inaccurate though. Serfs could be evicted from the land they worked on immediately and for no reason given.
@@cm3004Yeah I’m surprised how many people are blindly agreeing with this when this was mentioned even in my middle school history textbook
@cm3004 not necessarily true. Sure the means existed, same way the US govt could drone strike you from out of your house at any moment, but manoralism was a complicated system of social contracts that varied wildly where ever you went
My husband (physicist) always got extra enraged by this stuff, and now as I (a digital artist) see them "proving" their bs through misunderstanding photoshop I GET HIS FURY
Update: The world is no longer figuratively on fire, now it is literally on fire
I saw the documentary Behind The Curve. Patricia seemed like a really nice person. But at the end of the documentary is when she started receiving hate mail with conspiracies about her. She's driving with the documentary crew and she says "I can't believe there are so many people on the internet who are so ready and willing to believe any crazy conspiracy... I'm not one of those people.... Am I?" And it's just silence with her staring into the camera. It was so f**king surreal! I felt like I was being sucked in to the void!
Patricia has left the online community due to atrocious online hate sufferred. Mostly from flattards who call her a "traitor" for being in the documentary. The flattard community REALLY is that toxic. Say one word against the established flat earth doctrine and you will be shunned, threatened, insulted, harrassed and socially banished. While the flat earth community hypocritically boast how they can "think for themsleves2 and dont just blindly follow whatever they are told to believe". There is a huge amount of racism, homophobia and downright support of Fascist leaders like H!tler in their community too.
@@conspiracycolumbo1047 You said it buddy. Well hopefully there is some sort of silver lining and this whole experience has got her to stop wasting her time with this flat earth nonsense.
OoOO I gotta watch that
Okay, I'm confused.
Fuck, imagine getting so much harassment that you start doubting your own beliefs and world views.
Anti-Vaxxers: A Measured Response PLEASE. I'll love you forever.
Edit: HOLY SHIT
I did watch it, if you were curious
Also TERFs: A Measured Response.
@@Snowfire6916 dafuq are those
@@user-mt4bk4ml7t Just google it bro, like with any term you don't know, easy as piss.
@@Haispawner yeah was scared that it was something weird but it turns out to be some radical feminazis
@@user-mt4bk4ml7t It's a bit more complex than that, it's a branch of feminism that believes trans people cannot be women and are trying to invade women's space, which the other branches of feminism really don't approve of, and just generally isn't very helpful for equality.
5:54 “I’m gonna zoom in on the Earth” Yeah, because if you didn’t, the fact that the rest of the image also has jpeg compression would be revealed
20:47 “they use deceptive methods to deceive you” walked so “resulting in destructive results” could run
as an australian, can confirm that not only is australia actually incredibly wide, but so are we. the real flat earth stretches us. it is a painful existence.
That explains why I'm so thicc.
@@peterprime2140 pfffffft
But the upside is that you get to live in the original model for deathworld.
Babe please I’m 90lbs in Australia
Same with us New Zealanders, but our physiology is distorted on a sort of diagonal, it too is excruciating
If the Earth was flat, cats would have shoved everything off the edge by now.
Truth!
Thats why the Egyptians worshipped them, out of worry of this.
@@zacharyclark4092 I hate to stomp on your joke but I love telling this to everyone whenever I get an opportunity.
The reason cats were revered in Egypt is because the Egyptians happened to settle in a place that was loaded with horrible venomous creatures. They kept cats because they would pounce on any scorpions they found in the home, protecting the people. This is reflected in how the goddess Bastet defended Ra from serpents.
:3
@Travis dont be sorry, im always glad to learn lol
ultimate logic.
My partner's just pointed out, about the flight thing, that a flat earth map would actually make some flights shorter. The example she drew on was London to Beijing, which allegedly takes about the same time as the Perth to Chile flight; on a flat earth map, those cities would be WAY closer together, and thus the flights should - in theory - be a lot shorter if the earth was flat. Are flat earthers suggesting that airlines are consciously making some flights a lot SLOWER, wasting time, money and resources (as well as potentially going against the physics of flight, in which you need to maintain a set speed in order to create lift), JUST to preserve the illusion of a globe earth?
Yes, some flat Earthers believe airlines slow down flights to maintain the globe Earth illusion. Flat Earthers are conspiracy theorists.
i was so looking forward to the crossover scene, and was genuinely surprised that it was Abbigale and not you covering themself in a condiment. maybe it's been a while since i've seen her old work, but that really feels more like an hbomb bit than a philosphy tube bit.
The government hired Stanley Kubrick to fake the moon landing after coming to accept that they could not accomplish it. However, due to his unrelenting pursuit of perfection in his shots, within a year, he had his actors on the moon.
They never show you the outtakes of Neil Armstrong crying in hysterical terror because Kubrick was making him plant the flag for the 100th time until he got the angle and tone right.
I honestly love the head canon that, yes, Stanley Kubrick did film the moon landing but was enough of a perfectionist sociopath that he convinced them to actually film the damn thing on the actual moon.
That's what makes it such a wonderful joke. Kubrick was the kind of guy who would say "It needs to be perfect, let's film it on the moon"
@@mphylo2296 I prefer the theory that *all* of Kubrick's films were made on the moon and he just used practical effects to make everything look like it wasn't floating
@@merchantfan Man you joke but you have no idea. Kubrick woild have unironically shot 2001 in space on a real space ship if he could have afforded to. Dude used his own fortune as his budget which is a major part of why he had as much creative control as he did. He was crazy but exactly what Hollywood needed after the golden age ended
"The utter lack of nonstop flights from anywhere in this hemisphere"
Oh that's a funny word isn't it Mark
HemiSPHERE
Wonder what it could mean
@FACE GALLON You don't MEAN that, do you?
@FACE GALLON Oh, whew
You can never tell these days
@FACE GALLON The Fremasons? Huh.... You don't know Aristarchus of Samos, nor Nicolas Copernic, nor Galileo, aren't you? You don't know the barbarians who burned and destroyed decades of knowledge after the Fall of Antique Rome? Those barbarians had a greed for power and knew how knowledge makes people resist to submission attemps. Globe comes from many decades before the Freemasons. And the Freemasons had a postive role in USA history. I don't hate a created entity such as "God", but it's seen in so many ways. I respect that people can lack reason and imagination. But I hate what was done in the name of any Monotheist God. They can't make their own purposes, those people with beliefs, except if they are able to be open-minded believers. The narrow-ones need what they have been repeated too many times, but they can't get out of the comforting zone of fate in God. I believe in me and in Makind, even in you. It's what the diverse educations and some mysterious thoughts of mine learned me to do. The tensions from mankind's diversity is a historical fresque that learned me to see what I can do to convince to get more knowledge. You have to know the basics of reasoning and prevent yourself from misjudgment to support your Flat-Eartist thing. History is not lying to what people like you did with reasonable people: to shut them up. I won't, I have my purpose, I have to overcome myself. There's so much to do and so heavy burdens on humanity...
@FACE GALLON I respect your sarcasm in this case... And I just hope this won't be posted on r/woosh 0_0
@FACE GALLON Your first comment may have initially been sarcasm but you sounded so much like an actual flat Earther it's scary
All I want is a flat Earther to explain to me is what the end game is. What is the purpose behind a conspiracy to make people believe the Earth is spherical?
They don’t have one. They just want to be a special chosen one with esoteric knowledge.
sells more globes
@@outmywritemind1739Yes everyone KNOWS classroom globes are the most profitable resource for all world governments
I ask this about the anti LGBT conspiracy theories. What purpose would 'THEY' have in 'encouraging' people to be gay and not so easily get pregnant, or transition and affect their fertility, when birth rates worldwide are already decreasing and getting to an unsustainable point in some places.
And if it was a big plan to decrease birth rates then why didn't China (a notoriously anti lgbt country) just become more supportive of LGBT instead of implementing the one child policy? I have never received a proper answer to this. Spoiler alert: there isn't one, they just hate gay/trans people.
From what i have seen myself, here are the supposed goals :
- Giving taxpayer money to NASA and the shadow government
- Straying the people away from God (yes a lot of flat earthers are christians)
- It's all connected with everything in science, like free energy
- Just pure evil control of people's minds
If the earth was flat, governments around the world would be racing to make the first (and if they could help it, only) "Worlds-Edge" Resort, Tourist-Trapping the hell out of the edge of the earth
the fact that they'd keep that a secret is stupid
"Selena, help."
Best response to a flat-earther ever.
> that moment when the origins of the name 'selena' mean 'the moon'
an old friend of mine that i hadnt seen in a long time became a flat earther after an out-of-body experience at coachella. i talked to her about it for around an hour once. it was a frustrating conversation (she used rick and morty metaphors to explain her worldview no less than 3 times) but it was very illuminating, although not in the way she intended. when i asked her what nasa would possibly stand to gain from convincing everyone that the earth was round, she told me "they want us to think that we're nothing. they want us to think that our lives are meaningless because we're just tiny insignificant creatures floating on a tiny insignificant rock in the middle of an infinite universe so that we don't realize we deserve better and try to rise up against their conspiracies." that was the first time i really saw what draws some decent people to flat earth and other similar conspiracies. it's just existential dread. they can't stand the idea that they might not be important to the universe when it comes down to it and these conspiracies give them a reason to believe they're part of some big mission that will ultimately give them importance. it's quite sad, really. after that, i talked to her for a while about how for me, the idea of living in an infinite universe gives life so much more meaning than the idea of earth being the center of existence, and how the idea of amazing things in the far reaches of space and the unexplored minutiae of earth make me want to keep living because there's so much to learn and so many wonders to discover. at the end of the conversation, she said she needed to think about the things i'd said and reevaluate some stuff. i know this is a very r/thathappened comment, but you'll just have to take my word for it. it's a true story. i know it doesn't sound like one because i could hardly believe i had had that conversation myself, and i don't mean to make myself out to be some kind of wise sage leading the blind. i'm just really devoted to empathy and seeing why people believe the strange things they believe, which makes people with fringe worldviews more open to talking to me, even though i disagree with them. i find it's easier to make change that way. idk what exactly im hoping to accomplish by commenting this, i just kind of wanted to tell this story. so if you read the whole thing, thanks for listening, have a good one.
that hits the nail on the head. honestly, we evolved believing we were the center of the universe, pretty much a priori. when I stopped believing in god it made my outlook a lot more negative, which I don't really see improving in the future. when you see the terrible truth of the human condition instead of a delusional Fantasyland, it's a hard pill to swallow
Very thoughtful comment, mate.
To be fair many are still into religion because of the same argument
I watched this video a few months ago, and only came back to see the other half of the Philosophy Tube HP Sauce scene, but on a whim, I decided to check out the comments. And I'm glad I did, because that was a very helpful insight.
you're right I'm just so tired... I need therapy ;-;
I feel like the biggest and most concise counterargument i've ever seen against flat earth is "If the earth is flat, then why the fuck haven't millionares and billionares monitized the shit out of it? Edge of the earth theme parks! A swing that goes over the edge!" and it's still the most convincing argument i've heard.
I love the .jpg compression part and the fact that you went through all the steps in like a minute.
the UN: ok we gotta make sure nobody finds out the earth is flat
also the UN: *u s e s f l a t e a r t h a s l o g o*
I can't tell if this is ironic or serious
@@MrsProfessionalDumbass I'm fairly sure (because you can never tell with flerfers) it's a parody. But you do see that same concept unironically posted in a lot of conspiracy theories, the idea that the Big Vague Conspiracy will helpfully put in very obvious clues that only hyper-woke conspiracy theorists can ever figure out. Kind of like how the Omicron variant of Covid was actually an anagram, or how NASA is Hebrew for "con" or something (it's not). There is no reason for any conspiracy to actually do sort of "tee-hee, we're so clever!" BS outside of the cheesiest of cheesy thriller novels, never mind one that's invested so much effort & money into hoodwinking the planet....but it's not about what the Conspiracy would actually do, it's fabricating a reason why some randos on Facebook can crack the conspiracy wide open when nobody else ever managed it.
@@MrsProfessionalDumbassi think it’s meant to point and laugh at how Flat Earthers show conflicting evidence.
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@@HECKproductions I would prefer to have clarification over whether it was ironic rather than misunderstanding someone's intent
"I don't think these flights exist. I think they made them just to trick guys like me." Laughed so hard I hurt myself.
Why would they do that?
"For the lols." -Sobek (I guess)
I wonder how he would explain if he actually just purchased a ticket and went on that flight.
"Reality is fake and the only real world is the one inside my head"
Isn't this the exact reason why the term "selection bias" exists?
I think that all airlines should consider crossing the South Pole. That should mean death for Flat Earthers
the sheer audacity of Mr Mark Sargent, a gamer from Colorado, starting a speech with "to the *rest* of the scientific community" is honestly inspiring
Didnt the ancient Greeks prove the earth was round? Why are we still having this conversation?
Flat Earthers need to feel special and smart in a world they don't understand at the most basic level combined with severe distrust of government. A controlling conspiracy with one agenda of messing things up is much easier to understand than the messed up interactions of myriad factions and institutions fighting for their own agendas. They believe themselves smart when they can see this conspiracy that others are too stupid to see.
Because they just don't believe the greeks.
Or the sattalite footage.
Or the flights.
Or anyone else really
flat earthers dont believe it because they were convinced by evidence, its an anti-establishment bias mixed with a lack of a fundamental understanding of the world around them. they just cling to things like this for whatever emotional or social reason, like all conspiracy theorists.