Rick Beato and Adam Neely "Every Artist Dies Twice"
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- čas přidán 29. 05. 2024
- Adam and I have a great chat about a range of interesting topics including why we love videos about people quitting CZcams.
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you guys are popular because you treat your audiences like adults. You share knowledge on the basis that you think it's worth sharing. People are starved of knowledge in traditional media. You remind us there is richness to life.
Adam Neely's video on "Garota de Ipanema" featuring Martina DaSilva is one of the best I have ever seen.
Chuck
Great indeed
"Composers never die they just decompose" - George Canseco a legendary Filipino composer.
"They're decomposing composers. There's nothing much anyone can do. You can still hear Beethoven, but Beethoven cannot hear you." -- Monty Python
Putang ina moments pilipino pride
@@carlfishy w hat video? I know the, ' Why Michaelangelo Did Not Paint The Last Supper.'
@@johncook2748 it's a song from an album called "Monty Python Sings"
a legendary Filipino decomposer*
One big reason (of many big reasons) why Rick’s interviews are so good is the simple fact that the guests being interviewed have legitimate RESPECT for the interviewer. They can relate to Rick as “one of them”, so they are much more likely to open up. I agree with what other people have said… there should be a CZcams award for Rick’s interviewing successes.
I love this pair. Rick is a great interviewer, in part because he is so knowledgeable, but mainly because he can keep his train of thought while actually listening (is this perhaps a jazz musician thing?). Adam is such a nerd in the best of ways, and has an intense and humble intelligence that allows him to make incredibly insightful connections and talk about anything from a musical point of view. They are cultural treasures and much more than "youtubers" (they will outlast the platform).
Outlast youtube? Mate youtube will be around long after you, me and everyone else are gone
@@guitarreilly I think the point was, these guys are important figures beyond the platform, unlike creators who achieved notoriety by getting good at youtube (learning to work the algo, learning to produce video that works for the format, following [or setting] trends): No, these guys have gifts to bring that don't depend on the youtube platform. it may be how they reach their audience, but if it were taken away today, they'd still have important things to say.
@@guitarreilly Alot of people will outlast youtube once the lights go out.
@@guitarreilly lol you think? No chance
Actually, Bach was apparently "forgotten" for a long time before being unearthed by Mendelssohn almost a century after his death.
It was known by composers because it was good for learning music theory, but it was considered old fashioned and wasn't performed. Mendelssohn did see the musical value in it and presented it to audiences.
Vivaldi might be the better example. Very popular in his lifetime, faded into obscurity soon after his death, no children to promote his legacy, basically forgotten for two centuries, then revived about a century ago by Fritz Kreisler and has become one of the most recognizable composers in the mass culture ever since.
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Franz Liszt.
@@digitaljanusGustav Mahler is another more recent example. His music fell off the radar for about 50 years after he died until Leonard Bernstein’s recordings reintroduced him to a new generation in the 1960s. Now his symphonies are among the most frequently played in the world.
It’s notable too that in all three of these cases - Bach, Vivaldi, and Mahler - it wasn’t teachers, critics, or scholars who inspired their rehabilitations. It was other musicians who had a genuine passion for their works and used that passion to inspire other people to give those composers another listen.
So war´s. Die zwei Leipziger halt.
This interview has a direct music lesson for musicians of all sizes that has nothung to do with "AABA".
Rick and Adam are creating the "music" out of thin air. They had no real structure or form, they just decided to wing it.
This interview is so phenominal because they both listen to the other, they give each other space to feel it (talk), they support the other's "music" l, they sense when the "tune" is changing and go with it, and they are simply having fun.
Having been a working musician since the 80's, I can promise you even experienced musicians can learn this lesson.
Bach's reputation was elevated years after he died. He was an old-fashioned relic in his own time, as music was moving on to the classical style.
Not only are classical music composers taught in school but their music is used so ubiquitously in movies, TV, commercials, etc. Even if people don't know all of their names, I'm sure most still know the melodies.
this sort of ‘fly on the wall’ insight into a conversation like this between two musical doyens, makes me so grateful for this platform. thank you Rick and Adam - love both of your channels. cheers
Great conversation, they should do this more of them. Rick's mentioning that Keith Jarrett had wished he had recorded with Wayne Shorter really got me thinking what an awesome collaboration that would have been.
That felt odd to hear. I'd assumed they recorded together at some point.
Imho, I wish Keith and Charles Lloyd would record/play again some day
You guys could talk about the weather and everyone would be interested. Two of the best channels EVER.
You two will be taught to the next generation. I share your videos with both my HS and college music students.
"I'm not going to say his name, but Rhett....." I literally laughed out loud 😂😂😂 this was an extremely insightful interview. I continue to glean so much from Rick's channel
Two of the finest music educators and explainers ever! Fascinating.
I actually talked about a similar discussion in my PhD dissertation. Events (and in your conversation artists) have a lifespan that has changed because of technological advances. Our traditions of sheet music and or oral/aural musical traditions shifted with the advent of recorded technology. I talked about how Blues music was a perfect example because it was primarily aural/oral and was passed down that way, but with recorded technology it changed our conception of what a musical event meant. Really great convo!
That's so interesting. Could you please tell me the title of your dissertation? Thank you.
@@karthikiyer6745 Of course!
The title is "The Event of Blues Music and the Effects of Technology on the
Artistic Event"
My two favorite CZcamsrs together, just perfect! Keep on educating us!
Love this Interview! Can we get an Anthony Jackson interview please? He has played on so many amazing records! Chaka Khan’s Naughty, his invention of the 6 string and early adoption of the round wound bass string, Michel Camilo, Michel petrucciani, Hiromi, Steely Dan… etc etc etc.
I loved this conversation! You guys are so well spoken and ask each other really poignant questions. This 80-year concept is fascinating to me because I've spent time thinking about what it means to be in the public consciousness and why some artists are remembered more deeply than others. I agree with Adam that education plays a large role - the aural and oral traditions keeping individuals alive - as well as the simple fact that other artists enjoy performing and doing renditions of what we call jazz standards. When something is good, it's undeniable, and you want to replicate it or put your own spin on it. Please keep doing these interesting discussions!
It's so refreshing hearing two people speaking with well thought out arguments going back and forth, compared to so much BS these days. Which are mostly just dumping poorly understood offensive statements.
I'm studying classical cello, and I did check out the Keith Jarrett interview. I've been watching yours and Adam's videos for years as a jazz outsider, and I keep coming back because I know there's something beautiful about it. That interview with Keith Jarrett was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. I'd never heard of him before and I still don't comprehend much of what it's like to be a jazz musician, but I could feel his humanity through his playing. That was something. So thank you for doing what you do, educating, sharing history and theory, and documenting a bit of the lives of some amazing people.
Both of you are perfect well-spoken, intelligent and reasonable show hosts and at the same time good musicians. Before CZcams we were not really exposed to people showing both qualities. It is a joy to learn about music, history, musicians, music theory, music interpretation, musical experimentation and society by a good presenter. If both your videos were half as good then still they would be better than 98% of the internet. So I hope you don't feel too much pressure and continue making enjoyable and educational videos.
I saw Rick in London last night, really enjoyed it. Thank you Rick for coming to London.
Wow amazing! Two of my favorite CZcamsrs in the music business. Thank you
An artistic variant on Hemingway's quote of "Every man has two deaths", the musical knowledge perched on those two chairs is off the charts.
I live in Europe. Bach, Beethoven, and a host of other European composers are still very much a part of popular culture here. I listen to classical music every day on the radio and concerts happen regularly everywhere. It seems to be deeply woven into the fabric of the society.
Adam - "What the hell was that video about?" I'm not sure either, but the knowledge, interaction, and respect you have for each other make this so comfortable to watch. I'm glad you two do what you do. It's entertaining. I feel enlightened, but unsure of what I do with this information.
Great Video! Two great tastes that taste great together! You are two of my favorite music instructors and I have learned so much from both of you. Your song analysis videos are oh so useful and informative. Because of you both, I understand chords and the way that they function such to be useful in my own compositions. It is great to see you both in the same video working together. A nice way to start my morning. 🙂
Fab interview - just in London passing time at The British Museum waiting for your show at Bloomsbury Theatre this evening! Enjoy 😊
@Dave Jones if I manage that I will send you a picture!
I think of Red Skelton like you think of Bob Hope. Bob Hope's Shtick is vivid in my mind.
We have two superb (not only) music educators; accomplished musicians as well at our disposal online...very appreciated!
Just watched your 2022 chat. Will save this for later because I have to send some videos to my son to aid in recovery. But really like you both and watch many of your videos. Always entertaining, always instructive. And I am a non-musician, but I can learn from you a lot about what I cannot do or play.
I would listen to you two talk for hours, thank you for the video.
You're both my favorite youtubers, so very nice watching this 🙏
Incredible! Absolutely love both of these guys, never thought we'd get them together like this 👍
Honestly, Rick, I found out about you through Mary Spender and Adam. But I've stayed because you are an awesome person and I love how your videos are young meets old.
Great point from Adam about the quality of the recording. I think what one might also take into the consideration is that many modern musicians have a history with indie music, which also tends to have lower quality performance and mixes.
These two guys are just the best. Such brilliant minds.
Too short this interview! A friend of mine said something about how he sees Adam Neely, he said he sees Adam talking about music the same way he watched Carl Sagan talking about the nature. I never thought about that, but I think it makes sense. Love these guys.
J.S. Bach had vanished from public consciousness, too, before Felix Mendelssohn-Bartholdy re-discovered and performed his music in the 19th century.
Hi Rick, in regards to your 'Why Do We Stop Listening to Our Favorite Artists?', I think you could call it 'Aging out', not that the band becomes less relevant but that the person listening to a favorite bands tastes change and expand and focus changes and they move on.
…thinking about triads vs fourths… I can’t say I ever thought that exactly. But starting today, I will be! Thanks Rick and Adam! What you do Rick is NOT intuitive, it’s a gift and thank you for sharing it!
Love your interviews! You think you're ever going to get PETER GABRIEL on!? Would love to hear some of the breakdowns and how he puts his tracks together. I've always been mesmerized by how he can make odd time sigs and unusual melodies part of the public conscious!
One, and only, thing to say: I just love the two of you guys talking about music!
Hey Rick, I love your channel. I am a blind guitar player, I love the things that you were doing on your channel. I love the interviews, it’s just awesome thank you for doing what you’re doing. Sending many blessings and best wishes from the blind guy. Peace. 19:32
I could listen to you guys talk for hours.Many hours...
I have to say I don't like Jazz but I follow this and Adam's channel, because they're about music, and I like music :)
There's still someone talking about the music we love.. Thank you
So many insightful comments in here which I feel is a reflection of the conversation. Which, off the cuff, is more listenable than most preconceived videos/convos because the Quality of the two speaking is high. Their Quality in their life and effort to learn shines through to us and it inspires me. Should get off CZcams and play guitar but not til this convo is over.
Awesome to see you two talk shop!
Amazing!! What a great surprise to see this on my feed 😁 You are both so inspiring!
Yup! I hit play immediately when it popped up.
Rick is winning the CZcams music teachers game by miles above some of my favorite music teachers on the platform! I bought the Beato ultimate bundle a few weeks ago Rick! Thinking of becoming a member of the Beato Club as well! Thank you for all that you do! So glad with the interviews and guests you’ve had on recently.
It's always a treat to listen to these two contemporary giants cross paths.
As a CZcamsr that contemplated quitting a few times, seeing you talk about enjoying that type of videos is kind of hilarious. I won't give you the satisfaction! You won't see a quitting video from me 🤣
Benny Goodman was huge in his time and I would suggest his influence is felt through the generation that directly followed him.
We need a Tom Bukavac interview and we desperately need an ELO/Jeff Lynne video.
YES 😀
Ohh yes please! However, I beleive Jeff Lynne is not too fond of doing interviews.
Yes Jeff Lynne 👍🏼
I've never heard "canon" four times in a video, except on a photographic site. Your show today was excellent. Thanks. --BAK--
Wonderful conversation. Thanks, gents!
Two of the Best at what ever it is they do....
So many great interviews, Rick. It's astounding!!!!! And so important for young and developing musicians all over the globe. In fact, you are really influencing the Music history with all this. I would dare to suggest some unique guitar heroes for the next episodes - Marc Byrd and Andrew Thompson of "Hammock", Mike Sullivan of "Russian Circles", Mark Kozelek of "Sun Kil Moon" and "Red House Painters", Annie Clark aka "St. Vincent".
Always love to see two of my favorites music CZcamsrs get together on one episode
I’m 63 and grew up watching old Bob Hope films here in the UK, particularly the Road Movies with Bing Crosby. The Lemon Drop Kid, The Cat and the Canary, and Son of Paleface with Jane Russel is a classic too. He became a bit of an anachronism later on, but at his peak he was a genuinely funny guy. Buttons and Bows 🙂
Aged 49 here...same. BBC's Sunday afternoon film.
Adam Neely really does refer his fans to some awesome places, it's how I found both you and Sevish on youtube.
Adam, Brett and Rick have given so much to the online music community, what a trio of amazing teachers!
For me Adam's video on jazz reharmonization maybe my favorite music theory video of all time. I got so much out of that video.
Adam is a superstar.
Still waiting for you to do a show about JD Beck and Domi. My kids love them. You're always talking about pop music being boring but these guys are pop and can actually make a difference in today's music
I have the same view that DOMi and JD Beck are a bridge between jazz and pop so will be a great positive influence on pop. Similarly, The Consouls take the nostalgia of vgm and turn it into great jazz which engages a younger audience. I think the pendulum is swinging back towards interesting music again!
I loved Adam's mention of Knowing Better! KB has an amazing channel.
what a great episode. I would love if you did more jazz content. The Metheny interview of course was EPIC. Lots of great cats out there. Moreno, Hekselman, Criss Potter etc etc.....
This is the equivalent of Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt talking NASCAR, Joe Montana and Joe Namath talking football, LeBron James and Michael Jordan talking basketball and Gordon Ramsay Emeril Lagassé talking food (I was tempted to list like a hundred more, but you get my point) The best, most accomplished and knowledgeable names in their respective fields. This is magic!
My 12-year-old son loves Al Bowlly. Listens to him all the time. He loves big band music from the 30s and 40s. He started listening to them on his own.
Always love it when you guys get together!
We absolutely need a jeff skunk baxter interview. Great interview with Adam really loved it
Good guitarist, but a deep state war hawk. I'm normally a "separate the artist and the art" guy but Skunk is a defense industry consultant (ie: advising on how to make weapons of war more lethal). He also wrote for Jane's Defense for years. He's deeper in that world than he ever was in music.
@@peachmelba1000 Yeah, there are plenty of guitarists other than Skunk he can interview...
@@kitano0 I'm hoping for a Josh Homme interview, or maybe a sort of obscure person like Dave Wyndorf.
@@peachmelba1000 I think he has a lot to offer musically as well. I recently watched his American guitar technique videos and he seems like he has a lot of musical history under his belt, and in one of videos he says jazz improvisation and the like improves non linear thinking, hence his interests in other fields with the same principles applied to them. He often refers to himself as being just a "hippie guitarist". He seems like a genuinely good guy with a lot of music experience and it's influence in other domains as well. I'd sure love to see him being interviewed by Rick Beato
@@peachmelba1000 I was thinking John McLaughlin or Greg Koch or Joe Bonamassa
Great art has a timeless quality. If you listen to it, it still sounds like it could have been made today. Example most of George Carlin's routines are not dependent on knowledge of current events. Where as all of Bob Hope's routines were.
I grew up seeing Hope on TV in his specials, which were ok but, to me, never hilarious. But I knew that when Woody Allen was a kid, he'd been a big fan of Hope from his movies in the 1940s, and those were actually laugh-out-loud funny.
I believe many very famous musicians have been non conformist school dropouts and hence they were autodidacts and learnt in a unique way and stood out as being unique artists.
Two of my faves. ❤🎉
love you both, always great analysis
Two of my favourite guys 👏👏👏👏😎🥂
Guilliame de Machaut, no sh!t!
When David Munrow and his Early Music Consort of London released the Grammy Award winning album "The Art Of Courtly Love" in 1973 (1977 Grammy for best Chamber Music performance) this incredible 3 LP vinyl boxed set introduced music from Medieval and Renaissance composers such as Guilliame de Machaut, who wrote compositions of such beauty and complex simplicity as to turn my own musical journey upside down. Instead of seeking Teles and Les Pauls, I was collecting krummhorns and rauschpfeiffen, bagpipes and harpsichords. Of course I was still making my living playing bass in a rock band, but there were bizarre fusion/prog bands back then like Gentle Giant and Gryphon that were bravely mixing it all up, Medieval thru Hard Rock.
Anyway, just glad to hear Machaut's name being mentioned, I guess he's not dead yet either... ;)
I just checked out his band Sungazer and I’m now a fan!
Most modern CZcamsrs have a PHD in Google and Wikipedia. But when someone truly UNDERSTANDS AND APPRECIATES their subject matter, they have the tools required to COMMUNICATE it effectively and enjoyably. (Communication is its own skill, but without those other two fundamental elements, it's infotainment.)
You are totally on point. My chemistry professor, when I was working on my Masters in education, once told me that most can get a degree in education, but only a small percentage are good teachers. They have the "it" factor.
I just watched Adam's analysis of Wayne Shorter's music. It is free of cliches and is original, and most importantly, he explains why Shorter's music is so incredible.
Why have I never heard of Adam Neely?? CZcams has so many hidden treasures!
you are in for a treat
Adam is AMAZING
Innovators, or at least very original figures, those who stand up over the others of their respective eras because they had success while doing it differently from anybody else:
these usually get to be remembered a lot more then equally or even more successful figures of their period.
Talking about Bob Hope, for example, as an almost 50 years old Italian man I never heard about him beside his bare name ringing vaguely familiar to me.
But I've heard, and consumed quite a bit of, the Marx Brothers' work, and Groucho's in particular.
I've watched their movies, I've seen some of their television appearances, and I've also read some of their written work. And as old as their work is, as old and culturally far as it's always been for me, I've still enjoyed it a lot.
I still read or watch some of their work once in awhile to this day, indeed.
Because what they did feels original, fun, unique, and, especially, relevant today.
Thanks for your videos!
Love it when these two come together!
I know that I now enjoy lots of music that I didn't like when I was younger, mainly because it's sounds better than it did back when I was listening thru bad equipment in my youth.
I really enjoy Adam's videos with Mary Spender.
Yes, absolutely channels like yours will be remembered and these videos will never truly disappear. Even if you deleted your entire channels right now, some of your videos will live on. Probably quite a few of them, actually. And ten, twenty... however many years we make it into the future... people searching for information about artists you've discussed/interviewed, songs/music styles you've explained/dissected, musical theory/history, etc., WILL find your videos. There's no going back, the internet is forever until humans stop existing. So yes, absolutely, your work on this platform will be remembered. Could even be popular, or considered important. Who knows what people will look back on in that way in the future.
Great show Rick, Bob Hope was a Brit I went to his theatre that he paid for in a south London suburb called Eltham, I saw Carmen it was fantastic, the theatre is tiny but charming. Love the show . PEACE and LOVE to EVERYONE.
Nice shout out to Knowing Better. Always fun when one of your favorite CZcamsrs mentions they're also a fan of another one of your favorite CZcamsrs.
Video/film editing is all about rhythm, tempo, feel and taste. Just like music.
My two fave music youtubers
A Rick Beato and Jacob Collier interview needs to happen ASAP man….I am already picturing them breaking down “Moon River” and all that amazing harmonic content….
The saving grace is that an artist is also born twice, the second time occurring when they commit to their art. A person whose life is sweeping the street or working a cash register doesn't have that opportunity, unless they are also an artist or a lover.
Hey Rick, I recently have watched your videos about Yuja Wang and Martha Argerich. As I'm mainly from the classical world as a performer, I really appreciate that and I come with a name: Adam Fulara. This is a guitarist who made couple of videos and then dipped. He made some crazy hard arrangements for TWO handed tapping where he replicates piano pieces!!! Do check him out. You'll pass out when you see it.
Keep going! Regards from Poland.
Great conversation!
What Bach, Beethoven, Parker and Miles mostly have in common is, that if you love the music, you are able to learn certain parts by heart and sing or hum along with them. Like ear training works. In some way, they’re like quality pop music.
And I personally think that’s not the case -for most people- with the genius music of Keith Jarrett or say some great more modern classical composers, or later Coltrane records.
Being capable of reading music or not: people live by ear first and foremost, I think. It’s just biology. They want to hum/sing/play along: be part of the piece of music inside.
I myself played in a Zappa’s coverband for a few years. I can’t read music. But, I could sing/hum al the bass parts, because they were fairly ‘easy’ to learn by heart, because they’re just melodies you can learn. I put in the hours and played them. It just took me 1000 times longer than a bassist that can actually read, 😂.
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Two members of my CZcams All Stars Jazz Band. Would love to see Beato and Neely along with Aimee Nolte and George Fludas team up for a few tunes for us to enjoy!
Just putting it out there: aren't there any real coffee cups (non-disposable) in the states? Love the content of the interviews, as usual. Thanks, Rick!
At 23:00 Adam mentions the verse that plays before the AABA section. For example, in all things you are, the song originally started with the verse
"Time and again I've longed for adventure,
Something to make my heart beat the faster.
What did I long for? I never really knew.
Finding your love I've found my adventure,
Touching your hand, my heart beats the faster,
All that I want in all of this world is you."
Where do I find the original recordings with these intro verses? Because I always find them very fascinating! I sometimes see them when I look up for the Broadway music sheet but otherwise idk how many other songs have these, and I really wanna find them
You might want to look for original broadway soundtracks, being that was very likely the source. So you'll have to find out what show the songs are from and work backwards. Certain singers might include them, Ella and Sinatra of course, but not always...
@@mannys1930 that is what I'm doing right now, but I was wondering if there is a way I can find all the songs with these verses that we don't play anymore... Kind of like a jazz real book but with original intro verses
I don't know if it's only on my side, but front camera that films both of you is blurry. Btw. really cool that you two sit down and talk. Adam is phenomenal and his channel is great.
This entire concept breaks my heart. So many greats that will be forgotten…And then there’s the greats that were never known…
Bob Hope was perhaps the funniest and most witty to ever do it!!
Great topic guys.
PS. I think certain bands will be reborn and studied for hundred of years, again and again…
#Queen
#TheBeatles
Our time will pass. People will find, create, appreciate and fall in love with their own great artforms, and keep only whatever from our time still speaks to them.
Bob Hope didn’t write his own jokes. We all remember Chaplin
Nice conversation guys!