Necromancer Is Getting Gutted | Season 5 Patch Note Sadness Diablo 4
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- Season 5 Necromancer got wrecked... please tell Blizzard not to do this to us
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I've learned thru the seasons to just play Barb. Blizzard has no idea on how to properly balance class mechanics.
How do you properly balance class mechanics.
Will be my LAST barb
Appreciate that you don't blow sunshine up our asses
How did yours get so red then?
😂 how do you know the color of their butthole?!? 😅
I'm not sure why the best class in the game, Barb, is getting massively buffed while all the other classes look so inferior in comparison. The devs are so disconnected from reality.
make minions playable then nerf it to unplayable? wtf is that lol
its blizzards M.O.
We were to close to barb. If you don't do 100x times less damage than barb then you get nerfed.. easy
Blizzard see people enjoying anything other than barbs, gotta nerf it quick
They’ll still be able to speedfarm everything in the game up until high end pits (unless something else comes out to replace the dmg we lost)
Its ok all the top streamers love the update because of course its catered to them.
These patch notes are like the pool meme... Blizzard holding his only love, Barb... Sorc/Rogue drowning... Necro/Druid at the bottom, skeletons drowned
GOTTA play last epoch right now! to scratch that minion itch.
I cant believe after a great season, we´re going back to the drawing board. Unbelievable, D4 is really about Barb.
It’s called barbbio 4 lol 😂 smh
It's ptr chill out smh 🤦
@@davidlong223 and what PTR is for? Testing shit out, where do you think those nerfs are gonna land? in the actual season. smh.
You can’t really go by just patch notes remember everyone said rogues would suck in season 4 and now they’ve got like 3-4 S tier builds 🤣 the player base doesn’t know how the changes will play out and a 1 week PTR isn’t enough time to test everything either.
@@NoobGamer-di1dw well rogues will always be good not great but good
The problem is that now all the offensive aspect do almost the same damage bonus, they are all between 30/50% bonus damage, even the new consuming corpse aspect that seems good, will compete against aspects that do the same damage percent, so basically isn’t a buff, we have counted aspect slot
Wither was absolutely gutted, most end game builds run around with about 70% crit chance and 1000+ crit damage bonus for relatively free while it took a full set of items to hit the 2700 int requirement needed to get DoT crit chance to 50% with a 180% X damage multi and that is on top of needing to slot AS and Resources. Went from a fun interactive legendary node to make a full build using to being just a 1/4 chance that every DoT build will be able to achieve
I changed to blight necro no minions to have a change of pace besides just golem. I have 2680 intel and that is hard to get, and missing some GA On intel etc, the only thing that is making 115+ pits possible is the blighted aspect, wither, etc without those higher multipliers it just won't do it. Was hoping for better buffs but instead they nerf it....imagine if they capped crit damage/overpower for barbs...etc lol
For real.. I have 3,300 Int right now.. playing Shadow Wave in the pits and Pvp in the fields. That will no longer be possible. Gutted
Wither node capped at 1200 INT. bruh
Ok... So I think whats going on here is Blizzard understands that thier playerbase is enjoying barb and they cant figure out how to make any other class as good, and streamers are using Barb for the hype train for people to join the game, so thats why they are buffing barb like crazy while everyone else eats shit?
This update makes no freaking since. I was seriously hoping for buffs to blood necromancers. I am using the rest of season 4 to "theorycraft" a blood build for season 5, but holy hell. Currently playing a shadow mage build with tyrieals might uber unique and doing pretty well. Not impressed with these half baked updates. Total and absolute TRASH.
Couldn't agree anymore this update is completely ass
Blood surge has been my favorite build ever and it’s just 25 pits lower than my other builds with top tier gear. So frustrating. Some easy fixes to elevate it too
@@mabus1232 tried my first blood surge this season and loved it but agree that it does need some attention as well
i am hyped to play barb in s5
Wither paragon node has a cap now. Wtf
Man, its so simple, we didnt get it right, ok? We should play only the barb, all other classes should not be played, its simple!
Blizzards future is just everyone playing barb LOL
@@Goblin-Inc It is ok if they are making barbillion dollars ;)
From now on i ll never play barb on diablo 4.
Just insanity. I have zero faith Druid isnt gonna be trash as well. They have done something about the Shepherds/Stampede meta BUT that is 180% damage with 9 pets and I just dont see us getting that level of power back. I am afraid to dig into all the changes.
You're exactly correct. They said they would buff druid to compensate but the highest buff was a 40% damage increase which is FAR from compensating from that massive multiplicative bonus.
It isn't just Druid or Necro though. All classes seem to have some paragons that get nerfed or capped. Seems like devs don't want uncapped legendary nodes anymore.
Druid seems to somehow do even less damage now but at least he is gonna be much more fun with shepherd gone.
@@Klinglesummm… yeah you’re wrong about how much stronger they made the skills. All Druid core skills and hurricane were buffed to be 1.85x stronger. Landslide is 4x (2x per pillar, 2x total pillars)
Not saying it’s enough. It’s almost certainly not enough.
But it is more than the 40% that you claimed while it also frees you from being forced to load the bar with companions and allow a different aspect in its place, or possibly 2 aspects since Druid is now free to go with a 1h + offhand
@@arkannon1682 Yes the core skills were buffed nearly 2x. Does that make up for (in most cases) over 100x damage loss on Thunderstruck or the roughly 80-100x loss when replacing the Shepherds combo (no other 2 aspects are gonna get us near the 180x Shepherds does)? I don't see how it does. Grizzly Rage got gutted the rest of the way as well. Of course getting rid of the Shepherds meta is a great thing but only if it doesn't hurt us further and I just fail to understand why when Druids were pretty clearly the worst class that we had to be so heavily nerfed to go along with the buffs while Barbs got straight buffs except for maybe losing 3% max health on a passive I think. It just doesn't make sense.
Barb was buffed, the rest nerfed.
Honestly that Shadowblight key passive buff seems to cancel out the aspect nerf idk... and it procs more quickly which i appreciate.
I didn't see the other minion nerfs but golems still seems fine. anyways i use my necro to relatively afk farm helltide
I don't know how this got glossed over, but doubling up the shadowblight passive itself and triggering 20% quicker is a pretty big boon to help offset.
The damage from the key passive does nothing for minions. It's player damage and maybe it will be somewhat decent for DOT builds, but keep in mind DOT builds got fucked in multiple other sources like paragon boards, damage affixes on gear and aspects
Whoever thought it wise to nerf what needs buffs and buff what was buffed already should avoid thinking as it’ll have catastrophic knock on effects. Stick to Velcro and ambien as you have been and don’t operate heavy machinery or think, it’s not working out
I would understand Blighted going from something like 120 to 100 or maybe even 80... 60 i would already say they went too far but 50?
I hate how they heavily nerf stuff but when it comes to buffs they barely change the numbers...
If things like this go live D4 will go back to exactly where it was with everyone saying it was a bad game and not worth playing.
What buffs ? I didn't even see any😂
@@ryan_gaming_hub hahahah
This whole topic is frustrating because
THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A FINISHED GAME
Not early access ,not alpha ,not beta
A more then well priced FINISHED game ffs blizzard
They really fucked necromancer here. Blighted aspect getting nerfed because minion necro was "too strong" so you nerf blighted so that shadow necros can't compete. Either gets capped so shadow Necro can't compete, I mean Jesus Christ.
Kalan's Edict so bad that everyone plays Shadowblight + blighted aspect.
BZ: got it. Nerf blighted aspect.
Active ability - if the Golem is far from the targeted location, it will now leap to the target. Golem AI is terrible. This is needed NOW.
Yeah this one is a good change. They def had a few good changes
Anyone that plays a couple of classes to 100 and THEN plays a barb to 100 is like WTF like its not even funny, if you preordered the Xpack thanks for showing them how much their suck is working......
The most frustrating part is that the only reason people went to Shadowblight on Minions was that Necro simply lacks good dmg multis outside of Blighted...why not give us a damage multi for minions only, like turning minion attack speed into damage or something like that...just unnecessary to nerf all Shadow builds along with it
What about the new default stats for weapons? That's a huge mistake...
Sorc, Necro and Druid are all gutted
Sorc has cleared a 150 so don't even start with that non sense, sorc also ran a 171 in a two man with a support, so yeah they need the nerf bat.
they need to buff barb more
@@gapeto0770 LMAO guess u missed the patch notes
@@gapeto0770 the build that did that can't do it anymore. Got nerfed in a way that will at least drop them 30-50 pit levels.
@@gapeto0770 90% of players cannot access that build due to the gear requirements, and it's a shit build nobody enjoys playing. The class is fundamentally broken. Go ahead and see where the 2nd sorc build is in pit tiers. The difference between them is perma flame shield. Perma flame shield is stupid. So is a class that can't function without it. Sorcs needed buffs to go along with the flame shield nerf.
They did nerf hemorrhage scaling to 45% though! Flay barb might end up doing infinity - 1 damage after that, can't believe you missed it
Funny thing is, every class got some cap on these paragon nodes, and most of them are capped at 30% like conjuration damage or burning instinct from sorc, while barb cap is 45% which is still wayyy more 😂😂😂😂😂
I left when I saw the travesty time wasting masterwork was. Glad I did.
Blizz is on a task to make every goblin inc member completely bald
I'll wait for the shave!
I tried a pure phys minion build with just summoning and minion dmg/as and everything but its not even hals as strong as the shadow mage or golem build... now both will be useless
I'm so sick and tired with the devs protecting the barbs while nerfing every other class that comes close to the power of barbs.
Fr the biggest fact is that title !!!
In my opinion I think Blizzard knows what they are doing. They want specific builds to be S tier for specific seasons. They don’t want diversity really. They want you to come try the new season and whatever is the top build this time around so that they keep you coming every time. If they had balance and diversity you would be able to have 3-4+ S class builds every season and they would pretty much be the same ones every time. They do this with Hearthstone too. They are purposely nerfing everything and buffing stuff to push you into a specific build every new season.
Yeeeep - I share your frustration. So many seasons of trying to make necro work amidst a sea of bugs. Its pretty demoralizing to read / watch this.
I actually liked the blighted aspect nerf. It felt necessary like Druid's shepherd aspect. I hate that i have to use mandatory aspects like this. I always tried to replace this aspect this season but always ended up using it on 2h weapon. Mandatory must pick aspects getting nerfs good. They did the same to shepherd aspect. Also shadowblight procs much more now so it's much easier to keep this buff up. Also coming from Druid, i felt like Necro aspects were way too impactful and big. Everything is like 100%dmg, 50% crit chance, 50% dmg reduction. Massive numbers.
Also minions getting a good qol buffs. They will be smarter now, hellbent commander will be always active, no condition. Golem will be much better with leap. I might actually play minion necro next season. I'm not big fan of it right now.
I think bone spirit being highest damage is fair since that's ability's fantasy but the build should have trade offs. I'm ok some builds having big dmg numbers as long as there are trade offs. Flay + rupture producing big dmg number is fair. Whirlwind doing less damage is also fair.
Wither was fun. That's the only build i used anything other than red gems on my armor. Having this type of choice is good in the game. They should keep the wither imo. This nerf isn't good.
I came back after buying this game on release, spent a lot of time on my golem build…I’m so mad if this goes through
Necromancer the squishiest class... that is debatable. Easy to get armor cap, easy to get resist cap, has minions to take hits for you, has the easy game play to max level. Literally just run around and the minions do everything for you. Why would the easiest class to play 1-100 be the strongest at end game?
It's obvious that the 'DEVS' are sadistic. Do you think it's an accident that summoning materials can only be 50 per stack, and somehow can't be moved to the MATERIALS tab?
ALL WE WANT IS TO BE ABLE TO PLAY A PURE MINION NECRO. NO SHADOWBLIGHT, NO COMPLICATED SYNERGIES, JUST MINIONS.
Sorry, druid will still be worse. The only saving grace to druid has been the shepherd aspect which they have removed entirely and said they would buff to compensate but none of the buffs are even close to enough and they have gutted debilitating roar and gutted the raging werebear ult which was already too bad to use. Druid will still easily be the worst class in the game.
Hmmm minions can now overpower?
Bro, why does blizzard always over nerf in all their games?! 35-50?! Bro, 50-90 is enough and still keeps every thing else viable. So just don’t play necromancer is what they are telling us? They gotta nerf my blight build so hard.
I was thinking the same that's terrible:(
When do these changes go live??
isnt bone spirit good now? or is that it now
Yes it is. Its currently competing with minions for the top clear. Its wild cuz its getting a huge buff while every other build is getting a massive nerf. End result is that bone spirit is massively ahead of every other build of ours
I give myself to this game for a week or two (teacher so I'm on Summer break) trudging through the bricking of crap due to additional RNG brought on by tempering, only to have to redo stuff because my build just dropped down to bottom? SMH
Some dev just made it to WT3 on their barb, there must always be barb buffs. Total 🤡company.
Seriously blizzard, stop letting the marketing department balance your crap. How will you ever rise above meme status if you keep throwing steering wheels at a problem when it hasn't got any freakin' tyres.
I skipped seasons 1, 2, and 3 and really enjoyed my time with my minion in season 4.
I was hoping to play blood lance in S5
Sadly Barb is always gonna be the best class because they can rock more weapons and aspects there is just no way getting around that.
The Hellbent Commander was actually a buff they way it worked before was just annoying the area was so small.
We only used Shadowblight couse it was the only useful endgame aspect for the necro, now all that build is fking useless... thanks devs
Right now you have a bunch of useless junk to choose from that's what they was hoping for. Can't have something be good lets make it all trash 😉
wow man...someone inside blizzard buffing barb non stop and nerfing other classes....sad.
Oh neat. 2h scythe affix is changed to summoning damage. Sounds pretty stupid considering most builds require a 2h scythe. If you're gonna do something dumb like that at least change the speed to match other 2 handers. Life on kill was never great, but at least it was something.
Minions inherit stats, why the fuck would you put summoning damage on a base weapon type.
Hot take but:
1. Shadowblight now triggers faster and is double damage.
2. Golem mobility with that leap now allows selective tatgeting, especially with:
3. Hellbent commander. I actually like this as, now mobility is not focused on placement of minions. Sure, the damage drop is maybe what 25% realistically, BUT- now Hellbent Commander does not require minion placement being close to you to properly procc. That means that while over all damage is dropped, its steady and *all the time*- which allows younto not worry about minion/necro placement in relation to minions to procc that damage.
Overall, thats not that bad. Especially aince mobility can now focus on survivability vs minion location, respectively freeing you up for more survivability in focus.
Sure, the rest seems gaff at best, and we need better uniques for necro's for sure. Ill gice you that.
Also to whoever stated the problem with necros is they rely on minions for damage? Lol- thats literally the point of the class. And since I see no nerfs to sacrifices, theoretically you are wrong there too mystery person, because a sacrifice build relies on not having minions.
Anyhow- over all its a weird shift, and I was hoping to see more buffs related to shadow/curse builds. Curses are a thing necros can do and it would be cool to see a curse build if they gave us the right unique.
Also- Mendeln to mobility is the dumbest shit I have read all day. I agree.
Also- (again) it would be nice to see buffs related to Temerity (survivability, that allows forgoing bloodmist), and maybe another unique (ring maybe) that adds even more overshield/over health. Temerity boost plus shadowblight shield is amazing fun, and gets hard overlooked for META of the week.
It would also be nice to be able to forge specific minion damage onto any gear, as well as get those minion mastery+ as aspects on any piece vs limited to just certain types.
Being able to say hard focus a specific minion damage on every piece of gear via mastery aspects would be what I would prefer to see for necro, plus new useful uniques, or new uniques that buff out the reasoning to justify the use of others. Synergy build theorycrafting is a blast to do. More choices equal more META long term honestly.
Also, in close (finally): Minion Sacrifice Paragon Board when???
1) Damage from the key passive does nothing for minions it's absolutely useless. The key passive is ONLY taken to activate the aspect. It doesn't matter if it has double damage. Triggering faster is good but it's sooo miniscule buff that it won't have much impact. 2) You think Shadow Blight is now amazing for DOT necro builds ? Nope DOT damage got fucked in other places and the buff to shadowblight passive doesn't make up for the nerfs to gear affix ,Paragon board caps and aspect nerfs
It obvious, in S5 Blizz wants us to play either the Rogue or Barb.. that's it. Necro, Sorc and Druid hit too close to their new Spiritborn class.. which is why they're nerfing the hell out of them.. give it a few more seasons and I can see either the Necro or the Sorc being removed from the game.
The past few patches are infuriating, I commend blizzard in the improvements of the game but Barb is by in large the best overall class in the game and they repeatedly buff them and nerf nothing of note, yet things like necro and Druid either get nerfs or laughable buffs that help nothing outside of pulverize. Follow that up with victimize on rogue going to get hit for double dipping eliminating build variety and killing on of their best builds, but yet in the past when they were going to change bash cleave from multiplicative to added as it was intended they walked that decision back but victimize double dip wasn’t intended but they are fine still hitting it. I truly do not understand why barb was not good for one season then has been the best class since outside a build here or there that competes with them on other classes I’m not saying gut barbs I’m saying make other classes as relevant as they are
Blizzard hates necros n minions it's a joke! But they keep buffing barb hahaha. Sad game see everyone in a few seasons
Need my Wither back… that’s going to be brutal 😭 No more Shadow Wave
And where are the good minions unique???
Uniques are trash in general
Balance changes in BarbloIV are truly embarassing.
So you guys know. Season 5 is season of Barb and Rogue. Every other class is going to be total ass in comparison. If it follows the PTR path...
they are done letting us feel powerful to sell the expansion. now nerfs are back .... haha lol..
"Why Blizzard?"... cuz Fudge you, you ain't Barb, that's why! Luckily it's in PTR and if enough people say it out loud, most of these nerfs won't make it through!
I am all for balancing, but nerfing any class that gets too close to their golden boi (Barb) is straight up annoying at this point.
Im glad im like one of the four guys that are playing bone spirit
Isn’t there a new unique for bone prison that boosts your max essence temporarily? Could be interesting
Nima Blizzard, season 5 is too bullying Denuy. The only output damage storm is only 40%. Nima Blizzard doesn't like Denoy to delete Denuy's profession. Why torture us? The previous earth has been cut off. How can we play the season?
FFS im so sick of the barb meta, d4 honestly feels like every class is just a fucking npc follower compared the barb.
Truth. The problems of balance between classes will become so much worse too when the expansion comes out which has group content. 4 barb meta inc
Druid also got gutted, capping the thunderstruck node is a death sentence, literally the only thing druid had going for him
Go back to hitting for 17 damage babyyy!! The way it's meant to be😂😂
I laughed when barb gets another buff in the Ptr. lol, I'm a (Druid/Necro player)
The Druid feels your pain 😅
Devs are clueless...
Sorcs and necros get shafted by barbs... feels bad..
Def no one is play testing necro over at blizzard. They're all barb mains and it's obvious lol
Did home really just say necro is weakest class behind druid? We must be playing to different games dude
Because it is. Relying on minion ai hamstrings the build.
@vreelz hamstrings I can agree but to call them weaker then everyone but druids the dude is smoking something and flay barb(one of the best builds currently) got nuked from orbit in s5 with the massive nerf to hemorrhage
shadow blight, stack Dot damage .... this is the way.
look here blizzard
Season 5 is going to be barb and sorc. Rogue will be in status quo, still strong close to, but funnier than the barb or sorc. Why sorc that buff to lightning bolt could be a big diff
5:25 hate to be that guy but imposing presence got a 1% nerf per rank. so instead of 200,000 life they will only have like 170,000!
I guess they balance out the class based of the feedback that was supposing necromancies beeing the best class of season 4, sadly in reality necro was insta surpassed by barb, rogue, and in some ways also sorcerer, now we are easily the weaker class. This season I’ve tried the heartseeker rouge and loved it, if the situation is this for the first time in over one year I will not start as necro, and I will not main a necro, infinite sadness.
ps. Already tried bone spirit this season for hundreds hours this season, I would not start again with these just becouse is the only one kinda not deleted by the nerf
Necro shined more because finally minions weren't pure garbage, and actually does damage, I changed to blighted ebonpiercer to have a change of playstyle. Wither and blighted nerf makes it completely unviable.
Oh well glad I didn't pre order the up coming expansion. Thanks for saving me some money blizzard.
Off topic, but whats the minion highest clear now after the pit nerf?
138
@@Goblin-Inc dang ok. Not as far behind as I thought I was then.
Thanks for the reply boss! Keep up the good work.
@@Goblin-Inc And this is a shadowblight golem build ?
Mendel making a comeback!
Nope
Blizzard doesn't know how to balance their own game, not surprising
How do they manage to always make barb ridiculous every season
Im done with Diablo S5 if they nerf necro S5... it still needs buffs to equal out to other classes. They need to also buff Hydra. They nerfed hydra and minions over a year ago now. Time to fox both. Necro was JUST starting to feel ok. So sick of their BAD YO-YO balancing. Last Epoch and PoE for me.
sorc is worse despite a single immortal build and they got a bunch of nerfs
If Barbs were gutted there would be a riot led by Rob himself.
Druid players loses Final remaining hair due to nerfs to thunderstruck, D.Roar, and Shepards
Barbs are already overpowered, gotta nerf necros and druids to balance it out.
RIP my thorns necro. I stay in blood mist 90% of the time.
You won't be able to do that anymore either. With the cooldown starting AFTER Blood Mist expires...
Ya'll whining about the necromancer being gutted, but druids were gutted bad, but look at the pulv druid right now. Frigging one shotting pit 100 bosses for billions of overpower damage.
Necromancer has the highest invulnerability uptime, no? Besides the Yen's Blessing fire shield Sorc.
Yes it does but we can't use abilities while inside of blood mist so its not nearly as powerful
@@Goblin-Inc if you have sac ring you can
True but this is going to be less corpse explosion per second than just manually casting corpse explosion
@@Goblin-Inc well both sorc and rogue is buggy so dmg is bloated, barb is barb, saying nec is second lowest dmg is blasphemy.
So youre saying sorc, rogue, and barb all do more damage than necro and then necro does more damage than druid? Which means its second lowest dps?
I think I’ll wait for POE 2. 😢
Someone's going baaaald
It won't make it to live? Are you sure....?
Barb is number 1 every season
Bone Spear (- 25% DPS) - =(
typical blizzard
No tears. Only malding.
No more tears just rage
Yeah, Blizzard...
let's buff Barb where Flay is doing 1.500.000.000 bleeding dmg per second and can Rupture for 150.000.000.000 and let's nerf Necro and Druid - Hahahahahaha
9 (4 ravens, 2 creepers, 3 wolves) companions (with +1 companion) even on amulet (+20x% per companion) = 180x% damage and they just removed it - Hahahahahaha
But they will buff skills by 2x% to compensate - Hahahahahaha This is Barblo iV and not Diablo IV.