The Undertale Iceberg Explained - A Deep Dive
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- Undertale is a massive game with many mysteries and secrets hidden underneath it. But how deep does it go?
0:00 Introduction
1:36 The Surface
12:31 Shallow Waters
27:20 The Depths
47:10 The Fathoms
1:03:37 The Abyss
1:14:01 Outro
The original iceberg:
/ undertale_iceberg_remake
Sources for all of the videos:
docs.google.com/document/d/1A...
Additional credits to ShadBad88 and DipoTheTem for helping with the JoJo References section and the Touhou Inspiration sections respectively!
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/ @supersmashbroslawlred...
/ @dipothetem
Chara is the Narrator masterpost:
determinators.tumblr.com/post...
Punch Card Exploit Explanation video:
• Video
Sans is a Darkner masterposts:
vanillogical.tumblr.com/post/...
cellydawn.tumblr.com/post/188...
Heartbound game link:
store.steampowered.com/app/56...
Collector’s Edition Songs:
• Undertale - All Secret...
Famitsu Interview:
www.famitsu.com/news/201707/1...
Japanese Nintendo Interview:
topics.nintendo.co.jp/article...
Undertale Halloween Hack Soundcloud:
/ ut-halloween-hack
Gyftrot Omega Flowey Connection:
/ abandoned_lore_of_the_...
LV20 True Pacifist Speedrun:
• First LV20 True Pacifi...
#Undertale #Deltarune #Icebergs #IcebergChart #IcebergExplained - Hudba
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This was an amazing video, I can't begin to imagine the amount of effort put into this.
Also you've probably already gotten hundreds of comments pointing these things out, but the quote at 1:00:26 is a direct reference to Earthbound, where "bepis" is replaced with whatever Ness' favorite food is.
Something that people kept pointing out to me on my iceberg video is that "tarot" isn't pronounced like "carrot," instead being pronounced like "arrow."
holy shit im so glad you enjoyed this video man!!! it's a big honor knowing you watched this! thank you so much!!!
this got pinned quick
Thank you so much :) (I'm the guy who made the iceberg itself)
@@notorious-ROB you did an amazing job making it!
The place in which the npc who mentioned this is located in Moon Side the alternate dimension of foreside. For me it was Rarity.
I just love the fact that there's an entire fucking gameplay of Undertale in the background.
wow i literally didn’t even realize until i read this haha
i thiught yhat was the vid XD
@@mousebrewer9341 stroke
Unrelated but I’m getting nostalga and im cryng
Wait holy shit I just noticed that
46:34 The "papyrus survives" theory is based on a potential glitch that happens in the genocide route in the first time you see Undyne.
Where if you walk backwards instead of forwards before Undyne hears you in the bushes, even tho papyrus should be dead because you just killed him, his sprite still appears standing still in the corner of the screen, because usually in the neutral/pacifist route, he appears and speaks to Undyne. Maybe even tho he doesn't talk to her on the genocide route, his sprite is not removed from the cutscene, it just stays off screen, but you can see it if you walk the non-intended way. Leading people to think he's either alive or that's some sort of ghost.
Thank you for pointing it out i was gonna do it too
I guess yr right
Ping this comment!
@Handel yeah it's always such a funny and usefull trick to load characters with the map to be sure everything goes smoothly, the best exemple I know of is Paper Mario N64 with basically all cutscene characters stored under the map until you reach the right sequence
Yeah, just an unintended oversight. This was later patched out in version 1.01.
57:30 laughter as an expression of grief in undertale absolutely kills me-Toriel laughs in the genocide route when you kill her, People like Papyrus smiling as they die. Mettaton going “My poor love, I’m so filled with grief I can’t stop laughing!” Is like a key component of the game. They can’t believe you’re doing this to them, they can’t stop laughing.
Just makes goner kid's dialogue even worse on the feelings
In Undyne's regular fight, her attack dialogue right after her series of "right now!" is "ha.....ha"
@@HumanoidDerplingI thought that was just heavy breathing
@@derpyslurp8779 If it was, Toby probably would have used "huff...puff" like he did with Sans.
27:52 Maybe the "She'll find another child and instantly forget about you," is Flowey projecting. Maybe he feels as if he's been replaced and forgotten about by Toriel after she's taken in so many kids after his death. He probably doesn't realize that's how he feels but I wouldn't doubt he felt replaced by the other kids
But remember flowey has no soul to feel compassion
@SomeDudeOnTheInternet well yeah, I didn't mean it in a way that's like, "I don't wanna see you hurt like how she hurt me." I just interpret it as him projecting his hurt onto the player to hurt their feelings, saying how she'll abandon them like how she did to him, and that she doesn't rlly care about them
@@NoIdeaWhatToDoHere compassion. He could be feeling bitter and angry instead, replacing what would him feeling any sad feelings
EXACTLY what I thought
Saw a tumblr post about this that I'll try to summarize for this:
It's actually the opposite.
Toriel isn't trying to replace her son, but rather she sees him in every child who falls into the Underground. She takes them in, loves them, acts as a mother, all in an attempt to make them stay. Because every time a child leaves, every time they walk through the door and out of the Ruins, Toriel sees Asriel leaving the barrier, only to return dead. Every time she sees a child leave the safety of her home, she loses her son again, and again, and again.
Edit: spelling
Re: Chara's alternate grave theory. I think the purpose of that tree is actually to say Toriel isn't a good gardener. Later in new home the plants are thriving because Asgore is a great gardener. On the inverse Asgore isn't a good cook, but Toriel is which goes to show how they used to really compliment each other before they split.
i really like that theory!
Honestly it’s really sad that the two of them ended up the way they did, regardless if it’s Undertale or Deltarune. They really seemed like the perfect couple.
@@wumpus976
Killing 6 kids does that for families.
Good thing it worked out in the end
@@zeo4481 for a second I forgot what video this was commented on and thought it was for FNaF.
The best character is the sadest
To give him credit, the guy on 700 Club was being pretty open minded. Yeah, he didn’t know who Sans was, but he didn’t just go off on a religious rant, he gave the mother reasonable advice. If she didn’t want her being fixated on something, then give her something better. He didn’t tell her to just take it away, or punish her, like so many others would’ve sprang on.
Plot twist: he knew who sans was and didn’t want to be exposed as an undertale fan
agreed, he was surprisingly chill
@@loonar6904 after all, even the pope owns undertale.
That guy totally cosplays sans.
I do think it's funny how he talks about violent video games though when undertale is the most anti-violence game I can think of
Getting called out by Toby Fox is like getting called out by the cool teacher
I know, it’s like having a teacher you really love, and everyone really loves, and then he has to yell at you cus you fucked up.
@@Eve_heartfr
And the fact that Matpat ended up apologizing and taking back everything he said after that callout was the icing on the cake.
I couldn't remember why I started hating MatPat, this video reminded me why.
fr
i’ve read half of that “Chara is the Narrator” tumblr masterdoc linked and it’s already blown my mind about a dozen times. i’d highly recommend it to anyone who reads this, it’s extremely interesting
Link?
@@mooseboy7052in the video silent says he left a link in the description
Link is dead :(
The link is dead
It's backed up on the Internet Archive, you can just copy and paste the link in the URL bar on the front page and select a snapshot from a couple years ago. It's missing images, though.
Whoever came up with Steven after not surviving is a fucking comedy genius
Yeah but people (somehow) didn't get it was a fucking joke
@@kael4987 I remember when I was younger i genuinely thought it was real and now I laugh my a$$ off
Homosexuality roof maga
@@spongbee6436 what
@@Coreofanapple he has sex with his home, in the roof of the house, thats what hes saying
I always assumed the tree on the Ruins was a metaphor for Toriel. Every time the old tree gets a new leaf, it falls off, just like every time Toriel adopts a child, they die (which is true not only for Asriel and Chara, but also the previous children who fell before Frisk)
That is unimaginably sad and also my new headcanon.
Holy Fuck thats Dark. But Toby would 100% do that
Don’t the red leaves from the tree usually represent Toriel anyway, in the same way the golden flowers usually represent Asgore?
@@savvystudios7950 Hold the fuck Up. You are right.
1:13:05 I like to think someone thought "Lemme just type a random goofy word" and found one of the most hidden secrets in the whole franchise
Gaster is fuckin balling
bro the massive shade to Matpat every chance he gets is insane 😭
matpat shit in this guy's cereal for sure, the hate was INSANELY out of proportion
that aside, video went insanely hard
Matpat is really annoying to a lot of us. Sorry man. He's not the worst guy who ever lived but his naivety of his own impact coupled with relentless gimmicks is just too much. Maybe if I found him when I was a kid instead of an adult I might differently. Don't take it personal.
@@josephmatthews7698 "naivety of his own impact" is insulting his fanbase and "relentless gimmicks" doesn't mean anything. regardless, you won't have to complain about him for long, i guess. although, knowing matpat haters, they will still find a way
@josephmatthews7698 you're hating just to hate bro. He is not naive to his own impact, he knows how popular he is and uses it to give many small creators a voice as well as big scale donations. And he doesnt has any gimmicks he just makes theories on stuff he loves. Your comment and this video proves that most matpat haters have no proper ground on their hate of him and are just toxic.
That was so out of proportion, you can tell he's got no life if he gets that worked up over something that happened to other people years ago.
Can you imagine being an all powerful being combining perhaps thousands of souls and there's just one person who you weren't able to absorb because they went "Nah. No solicitors." and closed their blinds. There's an almost cosmic sort of humor in that.
Napstablook just didn't feel like being absorbed
napstablook is a god and doesn't know it and nobody knows it
concerning "every time this old tree grows any leaves, they fall right off": i'm pretty sure this is meant to be a metaphor for toriel. she's the tree and the leaves are all the children she's lost.
ooooh I like this theory :o
Oof
now thats a lot of children
That, or she is just terrible when it comes to gardening. Because, with Asgore, he can't bake the Butts-Pie. Which was Tori's specialty. And Asgore was the gardener of the family. We see this with his throne room being filled with Buttercups and him watering said flowers.
@@virusstudio7115 well, i mean, Asriel, Chara, Frisk, and the others 6 humans, well that's a lot of children indeed
When I was younger, I had a "theory" that when frisk(the player) hits the flower bed it woke chara and flowey, which is why during the genocide play Chara is there more than in the other plays, looking at it now, it's definitely cannon, but I just liked knowing that I actually kinda understand the game at like, nine or eight lmao
Idk why I added flowey w it, guess I kinda didn't like siblings being a part
@@brokenrecord.1okay so I’m gonna head canon your theory really quick: flowey was visiting chara’s grave
1:12:43 my only theory, is that "mystery" was originally supposed to be used when you complete the ball game in Snowdin. It was scrapped and Toby Fox left it as a little Easter egg
Adding to Papyrus being stronger than he lets on, if you spare him on a genocide route, go on a date with him, then check the box of bones in the corner of his room he'll make a remark like "You're lucky when you stopped when you did, otherwise I would've blasted-", then he stops himself which implies that he has blasters of his own.
The term doesn’t necessarily refer to a faster blaster, maybe being referred to being “blasted” by bones
@@revthescatman137 he says ‘blasted’ in quotation marks, it definitely implies that he can use Gaster Blasters
@@chilln0648 isn't there also a skull in the box of bones if you do this as well?
@@Thechaosmaster1997 If all of Papyrus's bones were in that box, wouldn't the Giant Bone stick out?
Wh- oh god
other icebergs when you get deep down: *spooky, scary, makes we wanna sleep with lights on*
Undertale iceberg when you get deep down: * B E P I S *
Well, Bepis is Deep down.......
in all of us
@@yaboipktendo maybe the real bepis was the friends we made along the way...
@@nealheron8740 bro......
But like mount ebot real location was really spooky how there was no context just that one pic
Why are you drooling?
this is a really well-made video, watched every second of it and rewatched a few parts. even as someone who's been apart of the community ever since the game first came out, it's honestly astonishing how much food for thought there is, how deep the rabbit hole really goes
1:13:37
this part was so menacing and i dont know why
I totally could have missed you saying it but, when you kill Toriel then go back upstairs and sleep in bed, fallen down plays slowly.
:|
damn that’s twisted
Wait, in the video, it said that the term "fallen down" meant that a monster has become ill or weak. And since the protagonist killed Toriel, she is technically fallen down. And fallen down is also the name of the song that plays when you first encounter Toriel, probably referring to the protagonist "falling" onto the flower bed.
oh my god
mus_emptyhouse is the name
I feel like the fact that people are STILL discussing all of Undertale's big and small secrets, and theorizing about Gaster (or just lore in general) over 5 years after its release cements the fact that Undertale is a genuinely iconic game that managed to actually LEAVE its "Toxicity Era" back in 2015-2016
I'm so glad that we managed to leave that era
ill ce back when your comment gets 100plus likes
Yeah same chris.
ikr
Yeah
I think this is just ehat every fanbase goes through, specially on its early days of being "the big new thing"
Happened to Fnaf, Bendy and many others too
Yep
This was such a great iceberg. You made me realize about info I didn´t know or forgot through the time.
I was wondering if the "Ball" easter egg just came from the idea of typing "Ball Game" referring to the aforementioned minigame.
Keep it with the great work, man. You got yourself a new follower
I'm returning to the undertale fandom after being inactive/absent for like 5 years and watching this really made me realize that I need to finish playing Deltarune (both chapters) and also that I forget what is considered well known in the fandom.
I do think it's interesting that gaster is considered a skeleton because in reality there's not that much evidence, save for the sprite name and font stuff, plus the sort of similar design that could have a white skull and eyesockets. In reality this "character" if you could even call it that, was another one of those things the fandom took and made a whole backstory and existence after one tiny appearance within the canon, similar to the redhead in the danny phantom TV show being taken by that fandom and turned into "wes". I do also headcanon that he's a skeleton and the former royal scientist, but it fascinates me how intense the fandom is with their backstory and what they consider canon when it really isn't even known if one thing or another is canon.
(also I haven't played the game or interacted much with the fandom in years I'm going primarily off memory forgive me if there's something that was confirmed to be canon by toby or I misremembered)
I know this is an old comment, but him being the former royal scientist is not headcanon. His followers explicitly state that he was the former Royal Scientist if you meet them in the game.
Most things that are bottom of the icebergs are pretty dark and horrifying
Then there's "Big Wienener Zone"
when you get bored of coding so you just leave messages for the other team and start a running joke inside the files of the game
The bottom layer should’ve been called Big Weinener Zone.
Mt Ebott real location really made me think, even more than the theory of sans being lancers' species
it's toby fox, what do you expect?
I always thought that it's really funny if the tweets were Gaster talking because that would mean Twitter is officially cannon in Undertale lore and Gaster took up the hobby of becoming a Twitter warrior after falling into the fucking time and space void
Tbh when I first saw the “very, very, interesting” post, I seriously freaked out lol- It sent my mind into a spiral of theorizing lol
“Hmm… I no longer exist. I have all of eternity in this hollow void…
*TIME TO GO ON SOCIAL MEDIA!”*
LMA-
What if twitter IS the void?
@@rockhistoria2537 NOOO LMAO
Wow this guy does NOT like matpat
I’d like to add that Asriel can also be an anagram for Sariel, and Asriel itself is very similar to Azrael. Sariel and Azrael are angels associated with death.
It may also be another reference to Touhou since Sariel is the final boss in the first game, HRtP, and has some superficial design similarities.
This is just reminds me in Deltarune after you wake up it Chapter 2 when you check the computer it said "Epic Games stuff" and it says "The final boss seems to be a creature with rainbow wings" this could be referencing Asriel Dreemurr Phase 2 which is the final boss of Undertale TPE.
I'm shocked that this iceberg went so deep without even mentioning the fact toby coded it in Andrew Hussie (creator of homestuck) basement
Big Bob.
truly a maleb0ss
Wait what
WHAT THE FUCK????
@@cloudieo BigBob
1:10:30 the most surprising part of this video was me realizing after 4 years that this Deltarune/Gaster-follower sprite was in fact a “bird character” and *not* a giant smiling head
Me too lmaooo
Lmao same
It's probably that it was that but the Gaster followers in Deltarune look different so... yeh...
I **STILL** see the smiley face, but I mean I also see the bird
Oh my god it’s just a bird?? I _100%_ have been thinking it’s some weird head all these years...
I’m starting to study game design and a huge contribution to that was discovering games like undertale early in my life. The shitposts in the code are also just entirely relatable 💀
Not sure if anyone has said this already but something cool i noticed is that if spare toriel, restart before finishing the game, and then kill her, you unlock an interesting flowey line about you killing for fun
WDYM Clam Girl doesn't have a mistake... She misspells Suzie's name
oh my god
@@LunaTheCommenter SSHFHKAFDLJGLJFNHBMCNLGDFLJH
Ironic
OH MY GOD YOU GENIUS
so did you bc its spelled "susie"
Imagine going through the code of a game and seeing “bigbonerdownthelane”
This is litterally the 2nd time I've watched the video entirely, and it was still very engaging and entertaining. I might rewatch the video talking about a undertale and deltarune iceberg vid by this guy again soon!
Can't wait to see where MatPat's theories rank on this iceberg.
Edit: 🙄 whelp, I can see by the tone this is gonna be constructive.
He's so worked up over something that was resolved. The guy just comes off as a total loser who can't let go of stuff. I turned off after that part.
@@Christiantheforestdwellerit’s definitely weird how worked up he gets
me: ah,,, finally glad ive gotten over my undertale phase
youtube: "wanna watch an hour long video about undertale?"
me: dont mind if i do
if you like a video game that doesn't mean it's a phase.
@Rude Buster unless you obsess over it like one of my friends who has a crush on
Yes a fictional character undyne
Omg you too!? I literally spent all day in bed looking through undertale stuff and I want this to END. I need to live my life 😭
after years of being in and out this rabbit hole i finally just started playing the game myself and omfg THE PHASE WILL NEVER END ToT
@@oliverolson2766 I MEAN WHO DOESNT SHE A BOSS 😎😎
"this is the point of no return. things are going to get a lot worse"
also in the same layer: *dies laughing from bepis*
beeg bepis
Metaton with Homer Voice is the funiest shit i even seen
Also PEPIS
****BĘPĮ$****
you know what i HATE?
that's
*_BEPIS_*
*The taste,*
the smell,
*the texture,*
_hey..._
_your_
*_drooling..._*
This is a fire iceberg, nice job covering it too!
My theory for “what do you think?” is that gaster was working on something that could get them out of the underground, and got sans and asgore to get shown the experiment, and papyrus would’ve been too young to know about the lab
To me, this game cemented itself as one of the greatest of all time through its unique storytelling and unforgettable music
Amogus monkey flip
Condensed Milk
Uncondesed milk?😳
Bepis
I..See..You..Everywhere
24:30
Don't forget that when Sans falls asleep in the Genocide fight, the "Z" that shows he's sleeping is in the Aster font. W.D Gaster isn't just Wingdings. It's WingDin-G Aster.
26:18 Spear of Justice is also a reference to Tavros Nitram's theme from Undertale.
@@dezember25th Did you mean "dESPERADO ROCKET CHAIRS," because that sounds more like Battle Against A True Hero
@@padriazozzriaorizifian8672 That's what I meant, considering that song was made in regards to Tavros 👍
except it's not actually aster lol, watch the other iceberg video they did
he gets two!
Maybe this was already assumed, but it seems like Frisk basically died whenever they fell in that hole. Chara says that frisks power awaked them, and the fact that flowey had the power to save and load before frisk did means that something had to have happened to give frisk that power, probably something like a fall to their death, in which they were determined not to die from.
This was a very interesting video to listen too while I was getting ready for school. Gonna be thinking about this all day
asriel dreemur being an anagram for serial murder got me going 0_0
Now you look at the name you can kinda see it
Asriel -> Israel
Asriel, Ralsei, Israel, serial...
There's probably more.
WHAT DOES HE EAT A LOT OF CERIAL?!?!?
Because He's A SERIAL MURDERER
I can see the serial killer my only issue is The last name has an extra E
The asriel dreemurr serial murderer one made me think, since toriel’s name is a pun on tutorial, toriel would be tutorial murderer, which makes sense, because at the end she tries to make you fight back, to kill.
I’m so sorry that I liked your comment. I had to tho. But in the process I took away that beautiful 69 likes
And asgore, being a pun on ‘gore’, would be Gore Murderer
@@unitds27-delta asgore's name is actually also an anagram, being "sage or murderer". this is probably referencing the fact that he's a sage to the monsters but a murderer to the humans
@@wuwubean interesting
Mind blown!!!
1:00:10
you know what i
HATE?
that's
𝓫𝓮𝓹𝓲𝓼
THE TASTE
the smell
the texture
hey....
you're
drooling......
28:20 I don't know about other versions (I play on switch) but the echo flower stays silent but still says "its strangely silent" in Flowey's voice.
Edit: I forgot to mention that this only happens on genocide route.
Fun fact: Grandpa Semi’s theme is used in Temmie’s special battle. It plays when you give try to give tem flakes to temmie and press no. Temmie’s face turns smug and text appears saying “can’t blame a BARK for trying”
Fun Fact also:
People still think Temmie is a Cat but that Secret Line confirmes that they are also Dog
It you refuse to sell Temmie when it really wants to buy something, it will say
"You will regret this"
and if you buy for college and refuse..
"Is this a joke? Are you having a chuckle? Ha ha, very funny. I'm the one with a degree."
@@yaboipktendo Temmie is a temmie.
@@yumiyacha7287 true true
@@yaboipktendo I think temmie is a mix between a dog and cat to make them a actual monster a monster can’t just be a normal dog
For the Asgore knowing about timelines thing, I always thought he took your words as symbolic, like he thought you were saying you were killed multiple times and he took it as he killed multiple humans
i would say i like this theory, but if we're going based off of how many humans he's killed underground, it just wouldn't make any sense if you respond with any number higher than a six. though i suppose you could conclude that perhaps he killed more humans in the war, it still doesn't really fit in my opinion. sorry to sound like a stickler, just wanted to share my thoughts haha
@@rinamine In the war the monsters never took a human soul, in the waterfall wall inscriptions it says the war started because the humans feared the monsters taking their souls, but no monster was powerful enough to do such thing, in that war not a single human died.
Asgore just started taking human souls when the monsters were sealed in mount ebott, and those were just children, only god know what would have happened if a adult fell down there.
Frisk just had that much power to kill all the monsters because determination is broken as hell, you can take hits from a being with unlimited power and erase timelines with it, please nerf.
@@samuelfilho8317 I think it's more of a no souls were absorbed thing. I feel like monsters had to kill humans in defense they didn't kill alot but they did so it wasn't a total slaughter
@@samuelfilho8317 if frisk joined smash do you think she would be low tier like Kirby (resident god killer)
When I heard the "Sans is a darkener" theory it somehow made me realize something I'd never thought about
What if Undertale's Sans IS Deltarune's Sans?
Think about it; the Don't Forget picture + the fact it only appears after talking with clam girl who mentions Suzy/Susie
During his battle how he talks about giving up on "going back" which is often assumed to be going back to past, lost timelines but could be going back to his original world i.e. Deltarune
Sans being extremely likely connected to Gaster, and Gaster being meta in Deltarune's world.
Just a theory.
It's really weird, because it could easily go both ways.
Sans' house and Grilby's are both in Deltarune too, and look literally identical to their undertale counterparts, minus Grilby's which Sans clearly redecorated AFTER it was Grilby's.
@@MirrorHall_Clay Considering Deltarune was planned before Undertale, I think it makes much more sense that Sans went from Deltarune to Undertale. Although obviously Deltarune hasn't been fully released, from Undertale we'd already come to the conclusion that Sans (and Papyrus, for that matter) had come from /somewhere else/, while nothing in Deltarune indicates Sans isn't originally from that world (unless you count the player treating sans as an acquaintance, which still doesn't really contrast with this theory at all).
On that note, keep in mind during Deltarune Papyrus is still so little that Sans asks Kris to babysit him. In Undertale, Papyrus is grown up. I had frankly forgot about the theory I commented but now that I think about it again, I'm pretty damn certain on it.
The ominous silence when the real Mt. Ebott appeared was kinda unnerving
You know, I’m beginning to think this guy doesn’t like matpat
You don’t think?
he has a point
@@pineapplesandwich3906 he really doesnt
@@SuperMandibleclaw proof?
@@pineapplesandwich3906 While the HeartBound thing was pretty terrible, I think its more of a negative bias, while the theory is pretty insane, it makes sense to some degree
The echo flower next to the quiche says "I just wasn't ready for the responsibility". But a less known fact is that if your inventory's full trying to pick up the quiche will say "You are just not ready for the responsibility"
Oh my god. This game is a bottomless rabbithole.
@@trollge2225fr, it's crazy how a few lines of dialouge can branch into something that combats with previous knowledge
@@trollge2225and also doesn’t at one point papyrus says he gave sans a quiche
@@Metallicdude Sans baked a quiche but it was actually a cake (I think)
20:45 what makes it better is that by this point that sans stands for "Steven after not surviving", this means that sans can also stand for "Spamton after not surviving" which either is a coincidence or toby fox is very well aware of that joke theory
The "Fuck You MatPat" was a bit uncalled for.
54:12 Well, in Asgore fight, you can eat Toriel's pie. If you die after eating the pie, the next time you'll eat it, narrator will say that the scent reminds Asgore of the previous battle.
cool lol
@@whirl6062 ikr
thats eerily eerie
Judging by the Game Over screen it's possible Asgore knows you can re-fuse.
And after doing a genocide/neutral, talking to him, you have a chance of saying to him that you've killed him once, and he nods sadly. So we can kinda safely say that he knows and is aware of timelines
I thought BEPIS was a bastardization of Pepsi? I could be wrong.
thats the Rapid Liquid (dude who posts meme videos of dogs) definition of Bepis
same
i was in a rp in tem shop and said
"GIVE ME ALL THE BEPSI" cus i thought it was what name was pepsi
no that i realsed what it means
i cringing right now
Wait I haven't gotten through the entire episode what does it mean-
@@bluberry1517 you dont want to know
@@allanthebear-boy-3367 I do :( lmao all I can find is soda when I search up bepsi what's the other meaning
44:29 bro matpat did not deserve that. All he did was make a bad theory and made a mistake that alot and i mean ALOT of youtubers do and get zero slack for. it's not like he murdered somebody
FACTS
This guy just comes off as so angry and bitter over nothing.
so true@@Christiantheforestdweller
25:37 even undyne confirms with the protagonist that Papyrus is incredibly powerful but too kindhearted to ever use his full potential.
Something about the last iceberg fact of "mount ebott real location" with the fade in of the mountain was completely eerie and terrifying to me. Great video! As an Undertale fandom veteran I was pleasantly surprised to learn a lot of new things from this...
honestly!! agree 1000%.
Haha 69 likes lol
We need someone to actually find that location. *_I want to fall in the hole._*
@@Zedryx69 god same. Undertale will be real
@@mustwin1233 Yeah, I wonder why people didn't discover it sooner though...
*_OH GOD I HAVE A GAME THEORY._*
The government has secretly been making sure nobody actually finds the monsters, and have instead of actually doing something about the children falling, called it another case of someone going missing, ever since they discovered the very cave their ancestors banished the monsters to.
Oh god I hope this doesn't go out of context...
54:00
It's possible that Frisk reminds Asgore of the other children he's killed and that's why he sadly nods. He knows Frisk is aware of them and he's not proud of it at all. It's his duty.
Load Me.
So one of my friends, who played the game totally blind last Fall, discovered this and theorized that Asgore knew about saves. I dismissed it, saying he was just thinking about other children. However, based on this dialogue, he thought he could spare Asgore by dying repeatedly and reached an absurd amount of deaths, well above 6. The dialogue remained the same, even as the death count surpassed the # of humans he's actually killed.
While it doesn't prove it, I think that gives some more credibility to the theory that Asgore has some knowledge about saves.
It seems like pretty basic knowledge to me.
why are you liking asgore's thing
Nah, frisk tells asgore that "you've killed me multiple times" (more or less) nd he just nods. Maybe itd cause he knows he technically can't beat you
The sans is ness thing was a joke, and the pope actually liked Undertale, also somebody gave the pope a surfboard soooo
43:15 When I'm in a competition of being hated by Undertale fans, and my opponent is MatPat.
A little tidbit on Gaster's removed Tarot card:
It is the 9th major arcana, that being "The Hermit". I would explain the card's meaning on my own because i'm familiar with tarot but here's an exerpt from Biddy Tarot:
Upright Hermit:
"The Hermit shows that you are taking a break from everyday life to draw your energy and attention inward and find the answers you seek, deep within your soul. You realise that your most profound sense of truth and knowledge is within yourself and not in the distractions of the outside world. You leave behind the mundane to set off on a journey of self-discovery, led only by your inner wisdom and guiding light. Now is the perfect time to go on a weekend retreat or sacred pilgrimage, anything in which you can contemplate your motivations, personal values and principles, and get closer to your authentic self."
The Reverse Hermit suggests 1 of 2 things:
1. You are lacking introspection and care for yourself. Perhaps the answer you are looking for is right inside of you? You have been clouded by too much outside interference.
2. You have retreated too far away from the rest of the world. It's time to come back from the void you ran into to think about everything.
*Now isn't that very fitting, considering this is the card missing from the deck? The character who became a hermit represents said card and is conveniently missing.*
HERMITU PURPRUE
damn, this fits joseph perfectly.
HERMIT PURPLE.
yes my persona knowledge finally serves for something!
I just checked my comment. Lol first time this kind of thing happened to me. Appreciate it boys!
“There hasn’t been an Undertale port on Xbox”
I like to think Toby watched this video and was like “oh shit, i forgot to do that” and put it out 2 weeks after this video went up. Tbh that sounds like something Toby would do
nice profile pic
He actually did too
@@ExulInsani lol
Yeah that seems resona- oh fuh I don’t need sleep *I need Undertale*
@@ExulInsani so do you like have a router down there or just random internet. How do you have a device that can use CZcams?!?
'Toby Fox appeared at his house, and challenged him to smash' has to be the funniest thing I've ever heard out of context.
46:19 the almagamate literally has spamtons face all messed up, and has some string like appendages coming out of the top of the sprite model... Toby Fox, whatever you've been doing you're a freaking genius.
Me, who was a fan of Undertale only in 2016, seeing all the "biggest mysteries" in The Surface : 👁👄👁
Well, the thing is that those deep mysteries were publicised, put on the Internet, and discussed to death. The Sans fight is something only a tiny percent of players have ever legitimately experienced, yet it's unquestionably the most famous part of the entire game.
Your profile picture matches your reaction
RIGHT?!?!?
How? Its the most basic stuff^^
@JallaMC i beat sans on the first try in my second genocide run
muffet was a fan character and got literally the best theme song ever wow
I agree spider dance is a banger
But what about Ghouliday
@@soyavocado it’s my favorite character in undertale
Fr Spider Dance cracks my top 5 favorite tracks on the game
i have spider dance saved on all of my music playlists, even if it doesn’t fit there, it still *b e l o n g s*
The way I knew most of what was presented in the deep layers of this iceberg says a lot abt how much research I’ve done on this game
You've probably already gotten comments on this, but "papyrus surviving his death" is probably referencing how in an earlier patch, after the first cutscene with Undyne, you could see papyrus' sprite even if you killed him at the far left of the room.
Don't forget when jacksepticeye was the first person to notice sans sound like patrick
I'm pretty sure he wasn't the first, but definitely not the last
@@lolzu yeah I can agree with that if anything I'd say he could've been the first content creator to point it out?, though I can be wrong
@Ben The Goose Maybe it-
@@nowayactuallybrohwat That's prolly more correct
@@the_egg_ Ma ma-
The silence at the “Mt ebott’s real location” gave me f’ing chills
Ikr something about that last bit made me feel weird and uneasy. Especially the fact that the music just picked up right after the image faded out and it’s like nothing happened
Does anyone know where this mt actually is
@@CherryBoob I saw a comment saying that it’s a pic of “Mount Steinberg-Baiern”
@@personthatexists3224 That mountain lies in southern germany btw if anyone cares
I thought a jumpscare was gonna happen lol
many years later and im still learning more about this game lol
Didn't plan to watch this the same day MatPat announced retirement and now I'm sad again
The papyrus survives his death is about a glitch that appears on genocide after you kill papyrus in the first undyne encounter walk left instead of right and papyrus is just standing there
The real reason this happens is probably that papyrus' sprite still gets loaded in, just never walks in to trigger the cut scene
Of course fan theories go wild
LMAO
I thought it was about that one fangame merg played
@@GalacticSnow13 me too lol
I'm pretty sure that glitch was patched but it was still really unsettling at the time.
yeah i got that glitch once
spooky...
This iceberg could honestly triple in size depending on how connected to Undertale Toby wants DeltaRune to be, and that's both really terrifying and incredibly exciting, considering the Gaster connections in DeltaRune are one of the most exciting parts of that game
(Not to mention, DeltaRune on its own will probably have a pretty large iceberg...)
.......
Why are you in here
Their picture has chara they're clearly an undertale fan
I agree
sup Chris
great vid loved it
Toby Fox calling out MatPat on his bullshit is like watching the quiet, friendly kid at school finally snap and punch someone in the face
also hearing this man fucking LOSE IT when he came to bepis was the funniest shit ever
1:00:27
This quote is a direct Earthbound reference. In a restaurant in Summers, a customer will directly call out what the player has set to be Ness's favorite food and talk about how it disgusts them. And yes, you can set it to be bepis.
@superbomb929 RBLX no.
Backtracking and seeing flowey is stalking you for the first time is straight up anxiety inducing
I used to think it was some sort of glitch
I didnt realized that was Flowey until now
Bro I know it's bad but don't go soo harsh on matpat
Congratulations!
You've made an UNDERTALE iceberg video with more than 1 hour of duration WITHOUT breaking the ABC rule!
What’s the abc rule?
13:44 of note: since sans will say the line about reports showing a spacetime anomaly regardless of whether the player has ever saved or loaded before, its possible that the anomaly he "detected" by whatever means was actually flowey experimenting with saving.
Or, assuming it is referring to the player at all, they just didn’t make new dialogue for the event of a player deciding to do an entire genocide run in one sitting. I don’t have an in-universe explanation for it though. I like the Flowey idea though.
honestly, it's probably the combined result of you and flowey fucking with the timeline. after all, there really was much of a time gap between flowey getting the DT abilities and us falling down and more or less stealing the DT abilities from him.
But he will say it's your fault anyways there are only two ways this could be explained the first explanation and the most probable and true one in my opinion is that toby did not think about this, and never thought that the player would actually manage to do such a thing, honestly if I were him I wouldn't think about it either. The other explanation is that the player entering the world of undertale and taking control over frisk's soul missed up the timeline so much and affected sans' readings, since we know from deltarune that the player doesn't control frisk but controls his soul this could be possible. Though explanation 1 makes more sense
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@@ivangordienko8081
But why
To back up the gaster dad theory, there is a Twitter post Toby made a long time ago showing concept art for the game. One of them says papyrus “has a brother named comic sans.”. But something noteworthy is that at the bottom right of the post their is censored text with the reading “and a ____ named __________.” Why would Toby censor this?
Link: mobile.twitter.com/tobyfox/status/818211590696800258
@Egg T I found this years ago but never really found any place to talk about it besides reddit and I don’t feel like getting a reddit account for this
HELLO MY DARLING I'VE MADE SPAGHETTI 🍝
didn’t he confirm that gaster wasn’t sans and papyrus’s dad
@@ireadysucks3026 I need proof
Papyrus was almost named Roman??
i read cucumber quest for years before it stopped and finding out that toby made a theme for noisemaster made my entire day
I don't know why but my browser crashed exactly at 1:14:00 when the mountain picture faded away. Gave me flashbacks of fighting Flowey all over again
I hate that i was SO obsessed with Undertale as a kid that i literally know about everything on this iceberg :")
but isn’t it so cool that this game has so many secrets??
It was only 6 years ago - wait, holy crap, Undertale was 6 years ago. Damn, I feel old now. It's crazy to me to think that there are people who had Undertale as part of their childhood. But then again, the people older than me probably thought the same about me, so I guess all's fair.
Same, I knew mostly everything. My favorite that I didn’t know was the pink names thing!
Including the 700 club thing?
Not something to hate yourself over
“Despite everything, it’s still you” remains one of the most bittersweet and motivational quotes I’ve ever read. It made me tear up the first time I played. No matter what I go through on life I hope I can still recognize myself and my values in the end.
That quote really hit me too, I screenshotted that so fast
Yeah when I first saw it, it made me stop for a while
I got a similar anti-phrase: "I still feel as though I am me"
I forgot to see it on my first run...
now it makes me sad I didn't see it
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Theory: Flowey was the vessel from the True Lab.
It so heavily hints at it. He mentions determination is the only thing that lets him exist. They tried to put a soul into him, but failed. So they put them back into the garden.
Dude that's literally what happened, not a theory
Yeah it literally says in genocide thats what happens flowey tells you
You know what, i watch this for the first time, and it's goood soo goood, man, i really appreciate your hard work on this❤️🔥
clamgirl shows up unconditionally in the switch version, and when talked to in the true pacifist epilogue, says, "So you never met my neighbor's daughter. But please don't despair. For the time that you will meet her..." upon forwarding the text, her sprite changes to a grayscale version called "goner_clam_girl" and she says, "...is fast approaching." after this, she disappears with the same sound as mysteryman and gaster follower 2.
Yes, he said this in the video, in the depths section. Glad you added a bit more info though.
@@Randomperson19200 i made this comment before finishing the video, so i hadn't reached that point yet lol
Her name is Suzy
I got that in my first ever undertale run
@@Sweon25 it will always happen on the switch version, and is (as far as i know) unaffected by FUN values
1:00:10 I thought it was just the dumbest way to say Pepsi and now I’m actually crying
Same
it’s both i think
it actually is pepsi in arabic
Big bepis down the lane
1:00:10 Fun fact about Bepis: If you use hacks to remove your armor, and get the Papyrus call at the second flower puzzle, he will say he saw you wearing Bepis. No other dialogue is changed, he just replaces what your armor would've been with Bepis.
something i forgot to mention, is, actually, not really mentioning something, its just clearing up what the "second flower puzzle". that was in waterfall, the place you were able to get the abandoned quiche, and the place you read the sign saying: "Congratulations! You went the wrong way!"
video was good but the bepis section was hard to sit through like no way it's that funny
I have two theories for how gaster died
1. He fell into the core and instead of simply dying he managed to resist death similarly to how undyne did and fused the the core which is why one of the followers commented that gaster is listening
2. Gaster was experimenting with determination and injected himself with determination to become immortal which worked but came with the consequence that he was shattered across space and time
In both theories he is filled with determination which is why his appearance looks somewhat melted like the almagimations
I've heard more on the first one than the second one but I wish there was more info about him in general
@@spacekitty6568 Hopefully there will be more when Deltarune Chapter 2 is released, with the locked doors in the town in Chapter 1, and such.
I think the first one is true one of the followers litarley say he fell in to his creation
Asgore nodding sadly is probably just an adult going along with the weird things kids say.
Or him mindlessly agreeing because he wants Frisk to stop talking and trying to to spare him; he already feels horrible and that would just be making him feel worse.
I still do agree that Asgore knows about it though, I think after killing six human souls (who knows how many times due to saves and resets) you would develop a sort of awareness to what's going on. It is weird how he doesn't mention it or hint it at all though.
very informative, thank you for giving your time