Gabbie Hanna is NOT the Victim...
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2020
- Hi friends! So today we are talking about everything that is happening with Gabbie Hanna. I do feel like this is a delicate situation so I am gonna be less tolerant and moderate the comment section more than I normally do. This is not a place for hate it's a place to hold people accountable. I love you guys and I will see you in the next one.
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I'm just baffled at this idea that just because she's not trending anymore it must be a youtube problem and not a Gabbie Hanna problem. It's reeks of entitlement honestly. She needs to manage her expectations.
it was a youtube problem. the only thing that was getting served to her subs were all the fake drama surrounding her not her videos. same thing happened when you searched up her name.
I see what you did there with tht manage your expectations and I 100% support it
@@Logan-hb7uf That happens to every problematic youtuber. It's not a youtube problem that drama about gabbie hannah is more interesting to watch than her content.
Planet Coaster Logan her videos have been declining in views and relevancy since she started cleaning her house for content. the decline in her channel is directly tied to the fact that her audience has outgrown her and her regular content just isn’t as good anymore. she’s upset because the goal was to launch her youtube fame into a music career, but her youtube relevancy is dying, which is affecting her music the same way. I haven’t watched a gabbie hanna video in years (used to be a fan) but i definitely watch those drama channels because they’re far more interesting. THAT’S why they’re more recommended.
Planet Coaster Logan
what i saw was her channel and that ‘latest from...’ at the top that you scroll through horizontally, then drama videos. the same happened when i searched her up. and guess what, it happened with all of the other problematic youtubers i searched. they first show the original person you searched, then videos related to them that the algorithm thinks you will click on because ultimately, that’s the goal. to garner views and therefore money.
i agree with the other commenter, it was at least 90% a gabbie hanna issue. i used to be a fan and actually liked some of her earlier music but then she switched from actually kinda entertaining content to the ‘CLEANING MY LAMPSHADES FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 100 YEARS’ thing which was ok at first but it became basically every video she uploaded and i would just ignore them when they came up in my sub box. and when she moved to her new house i thought there’s no way she could continue that crap ‘content’ so she’ll go back to being good but then she cleaned her vents 😐
idk what she’s doing nowadays other than dressing up as dead girls and attacking youtube for things that are her own fault to garner attention for her new music.
and you can’t call it ‘fake drama’ when it was all very real, except i know the ‘hanging out with curtis leprechaun’ thing is kinda up for debate rn but also the only time i ever see evidence in gabbie’s favour is when it’s a stan account so idk but the kenza cosmetics, dressing up as the e girl who died and at least part of the jessi smiles thing are real.
Im so happy someone finally said it; "you dont want to be a youtuber anymore and youve been very vocal about that"
What frustrated me about Gabbie’s livestream was that she constantly referred to the claims made against her as “slander/defamation.” Jessi claimed Gabbie shared private information over dms with a fan (with proof). Trisha claimed Gabbie told Jason she had herpes. Gabbie admitted that both of those things happened and gave her side of the story. Where’s the slander?
She definitely thinks anything bad said about you == slander/defamation without realizing, hey, it isn't slander if you did the thing!
By using "slander/defamation," it's Gabbie's way of subtly discrediting the people who have criticized her and maybe even hinting at possible litigation should they continue "slandering/defaming" her. But, truth is she either doesn't know what those words mean or she doesn't care because she wants to paint herself as a victim. Regardless, no one is committing slander/defamation against her.
Saying what happened and manipulating the story to make what happened a totally different scenario are VERY different things. There is stating a fact and then there is slander. The screenshots of her talking to a fan speak for themselves and yet there were 2 very different stories about them. Jessie keptnsaying “oh the fan was defending her but I promise she feels differently now” she was a kid who wanted her name in a video, she most likely would have said whatever to whoever was gonna publish her. You can’t confirm that. But a receipt is a receipt in its purest form
Didn't she referred to the fact that they were calling her "rapist apologist" and accusing her for exploiting the death of a young girl (which were proved to be lies)? Because in her livestreams she was very clear about how that upset her and hurt her.
@@ivettevillavicencio1922 yuuuuuup
Gabbie Hanna is the living embodiment of the saying "accountability feels like an attack when you're not ready to acknowledge your behavior".
You're not the only youtuber who deals with drama, Gabbie. You haven't been shadowbanned, you're just no longer as relevant as you were when you started making your music. And that's fine, cause things change.
Edit: No, this is not hate, and if you think it is you might be just as delusional as Gabbie.
And how do you explain the charts the comment /like to views ratio
Nopezilla true, Gabbie is a true narcissist. She directs everything towards her to make her the victim and about her..... she needs help.
When was the last time she spoke up about anything that was happening to her oh and when it comes to billboards and charts and her music being highly popular and yet it's not showing that on yt how do you explain that?
YT literally agreed with Gabbie, what shit are y’all smoking that makes these hate comments okay?
@@megabadalphamonsterwolf9589 Literally CZcams doesn't like her content anymore that's it. She brings nothing new to CZcams, she is a has-been
ok before i get into the content i gotta say this yellow-sweater-green-eyeshadow combo?? the flavour is IMMACULATE
She always looks so good in every video😍
Agreed!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
yes living for these colors! she looks amazing
YES you said it!!
Right so cute 🙌🏽
I feel like she just can’t accept that she’s not trending
I feel she just can't admit that her music will never turn into a full time career. She really thinks she's a serious artist that will get to the Grammys one day... 🤦🏻♀️
celifacejones you're so wrong
@@ameliabjorn About what, exactly?
@@celifacejones I mean........ *"delusional"*....... does that answer it.
She’s just not that great, and not a great person 🤷🏻♀️
I'm just going to say it and this might be a hot take but... Gabbie thinks she's bigger than she actually is. She forgot that when you're a rising artist, it will be difficult. She crying about her music not doing well will only hurt her more. People don't life famous people complaining about how hard it is. You said correctly, people didn't subscribe for her music and sadly she has mismanaged the drama she has been involved and to throw a song called Special might have made some people roll eyes. Also, thanks to the whole Monster thing, she lost credibility. Now, being involve in the music industry... Special is a good song but ironically... it doesn't have anything special about it. It is a generic pop/mellow song. Right now to attract the music community you need to bring something new to the table. The big names are so settled, you truly need to pull a Billie Eilish, who's music really crashed with the trends and she was so different to Ariana Grande or Taylor Swift, you know, the big names. Same can be said about Lil Nass X or Lizzo. They brought something new. Their individuality, their looks, their sound. And it was refreshing. Gabbie needs a reality check and keep pushing her music. She needs to keep making songs and make it constant. That's the only way. She is trying to break through her CZcams persona, she needs to do it fully.
Good points. I also think there is something to be said about the fact that she doesn't seem to think that she needs to continue working on her craft which is crucial if she wants to make it as a musician. I'm a writer and I'm not doing so hot with writing right now because I haven't been putting in as much work as I should. It's no one's fault but my own (and life being hard rn with the pandemic). I think a lot of the great musicians and artists of our time are successful because they commit themselves to their craft; Gabbie does not. She complains about not being successful but she's not digging deep in her music, showing vulnerability, or experimenting creatively. So she just gets lost in the mix.
Actually the reason why she is “crying” is not because of her music. If you look at her videos she says it’s a way she expresses herself instead of story times like she used to. She realized that it’s not mature at least for herself and her age to be venting her feelings like that and not saying to much. now she expresses her feelings in a more professional way. She said CZcams is not really her thing anymore but is doing it for her fans and music. The reason why she is upset is because of all the things that’s have happened to her with the drama. But something new is CZcams is shadow banding her because of the drama. She is “crying” ( more like done with) over the fact that how awful CZcams is treating her and how there taking the views and likes she is getting and people who did subscribe to her are now not. She is also “crying” about how sick she is with all the hate for NO reason at all. She as a video of evidence for all that drama on her channel. She just wants her music heard so other people can relate to it. So far I have not seen her talk about wanting to be all that she just wants CZcams to have her videos in peoples recommendations like she used to just like all the other CZcamsrs in other peoples recommendations. Also if this was happening to you, you would be over it. Again she is only “crying” for help to CZcams but they do nothing about it. I saw a lot of people say they related to her song special and who ever rolls there eyes needs a reality check not Gabbie. Gabbie needs to get out of this mess along with the other people that are playing victim so this can be over and of course when people ask for answers and she does not answer (because she does not drag herself into drama) she is “hiding” something but when she does say things about it she is playing “victim”. All the people she had drama with blocked her for no reason after they had a good conversation she was shocked but she did not black them back and still has there # you can tell that , that’s not something someone who is not hiding something would do. all those people just wanted to make a video about it and who did not make a video out of it until now because everyone was out of control. Gabbie Hanna
@@ladycaticorn2950 agree. Michael Barenboim, violinist, said that when he asked his father,piano and orchestra conduction living legend Daniel Barenboim, that he was unsure about studying philosophy or going for music he told him that he had to choose, because if you are a musician you must give you life to music.
As a composition student, that's a quote I always have in mind.
@@micky9988 21:04 21:10
@@micky9988 As far as I checked, Gabbie Hanna does appear when you search for her name. She has been actively losing subscribers, and youtube pushes channels that are growing and pulling more views. Also, Kavos is not my cup of tea but he made a good point... in a lot of her own videos, she forgot to tag her own name. Which can also explain. Gabbie might be done with the drama, but she had never apologized... she apologized right before her new releases which doesn't look genuine, and while she explained her side of things, it wasn't much of an apologize because in her eyes, she has done nothing wrong and to the eyes of many she has. It's as simple as saying "i did this wrong. I'm sorry, I mismanaged this and that." It's easy really. My mom has a saying that goes "don't do good things that look wrong." With the Trisha thing it was as simple as saying "I wanted to be a good friend, and I ended up hurting Trisha, and I'm sorry to her. It wasn't my intention and it came out wrong and I apologize to Trisha for that. I truly came from a good place." It's not that people had tag her as a victim, but she has been involved in so many things and she has never admitted she has been wrong, because she was hence this video by Smokey Glow. "Everyone wanted to make a video about it" she's not the only one who people talk about. If you do something bad at the eyes of the public, drama channels will talk about it. No one is saying she's hiding something... she has never taken any accountability for her involvement in drama that she had started. Publicly apologizing is not venting your feelings out there, there's a difference. When I said some people rolled eye is because of this issue. She addressed everything way too late just because her music was coming out, and she has never admitted her wrong doings and suddenly in her song she talks about people dragging her name... like yeah, some people has but she's not a saint and she has never admitted she has done things wrong. A genuine apology could have saved her all this drama. Look at Pewdiepie... he was cancelled and kicked out of CZcams program, and thanks to his genuine apology and showing he changed, he was back into people's good faith. Simple. People has done much worse than her but they had acknowledge it and apologize in it's due time. Gabbie hasn't and people are tired of that.
She IS entitled because her video should've been at least 1M views... that is entitlement. In 6 months her videos had been in the trending list, not number 1 but she has been there. She's crying because her video should have been in the top 10 of trending... she's not been a big youtube for ages now. She's trying to compete with Jake Paul or James Charles who pull millions of views in the first 2 hours. It the algorithm sees a creator who pulls millions in 1 hour, and someone who pulls 100k... the video with millions will trend. She expected her video to have a better reception. It didn't.
I thought about why I would be more likely to click a "Product Fails" video than a "Best Makeup of 2019" type video. Criticism gives creators the opportunity to speak in a more entertaining fashion, but it's more than that.
"Best" videos are often sponsored. Creators say things like "this product is glorious and divine" endlessly without being specific, and the price points are ridiculous. You love your $150 face wash? Groundbreaking! I don't want to be tempted to buy it.
Critical videos tend to be funnier, the price points of products mentioned as good substitutes are lower, and the language is less vapid generally. Creators also seem to put more work into those videos because they don't want to be jumped on for criticizing the wrong product, so they grow circumspect, which is an attractive quality.
I don't think audiences look at two videos of identical quality and prefer the negative one. The negative videos are often better.
Also, people don't want to waste their money on things. Fails are more likely to be universal.
This is what I don’t watch big channels anymore. When they post favorites videos, I know they’re telling the truth because they actually like it and bought it.
For me I like to watch fail videos so that if I see a product repeatedly to avoid it
Also, favorites videos can be way more alienating than fails. If someone is telling you to buy a $150 product and you know I you’ll never be able to afford that and you feel pressured to buy, it can make the content creator feel like they are not relevant to yo ur life and do not understand your struggles/financial limitations. Plus, I feel like I’m more likely to trust a negative review than a positive one. I’ve bought products because of positive reviews MANY times and felt disappointed when those products sucked or were far less stellar than the influencer made them out to be. But a negative review helps me avoid products that are overhyped and helps me feel less bad if I avoided a hyped product due to price. Negative reviews just feel way more accessible and down to earth than most of the positive review videos I watch.
And less fake lol
I totally agree that like 90% of gabbies scandals could have been forgettable but she didn't handle them well and they turned into terrible situations
Exactly! I like how she compared it to pouring gasoline on them. Gabbie consistently does this and never apologizes fully or takes full accountability
Exactly!! Not feeding into drama is one thing but she actively ignores things hoping they’ll go away.
@@pamelaaranzazu she
just keeps ranting and responding to sooooo many tweets.. seems excessive. Like say what you need then stop responding. People are gonna talk. 1. Yeah people can be insanely rude and it is unnecessary, but 2. It comes with being popular and "famous". Big time celebrities deal with stalkers, threats etc.. it kind of comes with the job.
You gus need to understand that she said she didn't know how to make it better. She tried to tell her side of the story and no one cared about the facts and evidence and the hate got bigger. Everytime she apologises and tries to make things right nobody listens. She hasn't done anything wrong. It's the hateful others that have. She's now finally sick of it an so will be loud and stick up for herself until others stop with this hate train, she almost killed herself. This isn't a "get over it this is life" type of thing, people got bored and decided gabbie was too successful and hunted her down. I wonder what everyone would be saying if she had took that way out. Why can't we help and be kind before tragedy strikes? Why do you only care about the truth when one's life is already over? It doesn't matter what you think of her, she did no wrong, she doesn't deserve any hate or criticism. She's a human who deserves to live. Criticise those who are trying to ruin her instead
@@littlelou050 She never truly apologizes, though. A real apology involves taking ownership of the mistake, which she never seems to do. All she does is "explain" her side and tries to manipulate the situation in her favor. At no point does she ever acknowledge that she did anything wrong. "I'm sorry you felt that way," does NOT cut it. When commentary channels point that out, they aren't trying to ruin her, they're just trying to hold her accountable.
Gabbie just can’t handle the fact that she’s peaked and she lacks the self awareness that she isn’t this generations TS like she perceives herself to be.
Let’s face it, she’s stuck on CZcams because her music isn’t good enough to sustain a separate career.
i’m so stuck on who TS stands for pls tell me
@@asamsworld Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming TS stands for Taylor Swift.
Jennifer Shao yes, i just read this comment before i watched the video lmaooo
Alyssa Moss so true. Her fans grew up and aren’t interested in her anymore and she’s not gracefully understanding that. She should take the time that she’s spending being so negative and complaining and use it to work on becoming a better musician and learning and trying to hone the craft. I mean if people just make nasty comments about it that’d be one thing, but so many like Smokey Glow try to be nice in their constructive criticism and say it’s just objectively.not.good. Everyone starts somewhere and she’s just not gonna start out in a music career as Katy Perry or something. I think she expected to just let the first song out and be a hit but most bands and musicians spend years working up to get as many fans as hers. Subscriber counts don’t equal talent tho 🤷🏻♀️
She’s just really not coming to grips with the fact that’s she’s not as relevant as she used to be...her music is ALWAYS in my recommended, even though I don’t really watch her channel much anymore
the stream she did was pushed to me lol I've never watched her, she doesn't seem to know how the system works at all
Same and her streams came up for me
I'm tired of her victim mortality crap. It's gets so annoying. She wouldn't own up to her mistakes. 😒
Edit: Victim mentally.
Edited: Victim mentality.
victim... mentality?
@@freethegays Thank you for correcting me.
@@blackandredteddybear2584 I'm really really really trying not to sound rude here but I was just wondering if you knew you spelt mentality wrong? I don't mean offence, I was just wondering if you knew.
@@caroline5576 I didn't knew until I looked at it, today. I'm sorry about that. 😖
@@blackandredteddybear2584 don't worry about it, everyone makes mistakes and english can be hard :)
Why are you always saying that you don’t like green eyeshadow??? THIS MAKEUP LOOK IS STUNNING ON YOUUUUU
Right?! I love that soft green with her skin tone/coloring. Wish I could pull it off
yes omg she looks beautiful
I agree I don't know what she's seeing. Green suits her very well
I look like a didn't sleep well or got punched in the face but she looks great.
THANK YOU
Hannah?? Not wearing red-toned eyeshadow? Who is she??
I just realized I never knew her first name. I’ve been calling her Smokey G in my head for two years
Eva do Couto same 😂
Aly S lmao oops!! Love the shit outta her though!
I just feel like Gabbie Hanna is very emotionally unstable like how angry she gets I’m like holy Jesus
It's not surprising that she gets that angry. Her CZcams career was built on that anger. All of her most popular story-time videos were the ones where she got super angry. It's not really something you can fake.
I don't really see it as unstable, moreso as falling back on her default coping mechanism that she used to survive her angstier days.
A lot of her fans are also older now like me. I’m now in a place where i just genuinely don’t go online anymore because I’m older and have more responsibilities. So i think wot of her audience has just aged iit
Gabbie is always the victim of her own story and this is why she will never do any true growing. She's much too old for this attitude, and it's not cute
side note, her music is not awful, but no one really watches youtubers for their music. Even if i watch her music video once, I'm never going back to it cause it's not what I signed up for.
You gotta pull a filthy frank/Joji and make a clean break and not come back. Just completely separate one endeavor from the other.
SwimSweetie100 I only really like the very first song she created back in like 2017.
Like troye sivan too
After everything came out I stopped watching her and I’m sure lots of people did. She’s not being shadow banned, people are just done with her. It’s like Onision claiming he’s been shadow banned for the last couple years. No dude, people stopped liking you.
Do y’all remember what she said to Mykie when she was dealing with CZcams issues.
“Don’t bite the hand that feeds you?”
Ehhhhh....
wait when? like glam and gore mykie?
Hmph
@@abigailcastellon8296 Yep in their collab video that's still on Mykie's channel.
I like whatever is happening with the lighting in this video! Not the topic of conversation I realize lol but I know you’ve been on a bit of a setup journey
Thank you! That’s good to know’
Same, I like the background too!
@@smokey_glow I second this comment, love the lighting in this video! And you look gorgeous with the green eyeshadow.
I was thinking the same thing
The other thing with the "taylor swift effect" is that the music still needs to be good regardless of whether or not someone is a fan. Yes taylor swift's music has easter eggs and references to her older works/personal life, but no one needs to understand the references in order to enjoy the songs as songs. You don't need to know that her and Joe have been dating for 3 years to enjoy the song lover, but knowing that can make the music seem more playful. It's the same with twenty one pilots. Sure you can get super involved with the different worlds and mysteries they invent for each album, but the albums are also solid bodies of work if you don't know that they're concept albums. It takes a lot of time and skill to properly use the taylor swift effect, and if you're just starting out (as gabbie is), then it will likely fall flat to most people.
1000000% agree.
I love you bring Taylor here because I feel like she tries to do what Taylor did... Like, Gabbie, you're not Taylor Swift🤣🤣🤣
I actually unsuscribed her because there's SO MUCH drama on her ALWAYS is annoying🙄
Yes this is so true! I’ve only recently got into Taylor and her music so I don’t really catch the Easter eggs (I’m also not very good at working clues out anyway) but I still really enjoy the songs
” you can tell it's lazier” she did a whole series of her just doing her chores like the idea she got paid thousands of dollars for doing her chores that as an.adult you are expected to do just baffles me
Not really tho? Her subscribers asked her to do those videos. They loved watching her be herself why is that lazy?
@@ashwathirajeev2565 Because it's not appealing to people outside of her die hard fanbase. Something Hannah mentions too. What new viewer is going to look at all those videos and want to subscribe to them? And listening to viewers isn't always the best move. Gabbie should focus on making music or videos that make her happy. Not just do a bunch of chore videos out of obligation.
@@ashwathirajeev2565 I certainly didn't want those videos. It was only her obsessed fans who would watch anything from Gabbie that wanted it. I subscribed to Gabbie because of her crazy story time videos and her over the top reaction videos. But it seems like her heart hasn't been in it for awhile and she's really been trying hard with her music career instead. Which is fine. She should do what makes her happy. But I think me and other viewers moved on because we weren't a fan of her new content. Her videos are boring to me now.
Ashwathi Rajeev because you coil see how she hadn't done normal ass adult chores. Like instead of putting effort into content like other CZcamsrs do she sad down and cleaned inform of the camera and got paid thousands of dollars for it. Where as other yourubers have to put forth effort into content AND do normal adult chores. Like imagine if Pewdiepie must was cleaning his room on camera lil yeah that's personality cool but like it was obvious she hadn't done chore then made a video out of it
This is exactly when I unsubbed from gabbie and it's literally all gone downhill from there.
She's now claiming everything Jessi said was a lie, she follows stan accounts that are calling Dustin and Nick homophobic slurs, and she accused Dustin of using his sister that passed away for sympathy and attacking him for it.
EDIT: The accounts were also gay men who have since apologized
yiiiiiiikes that’s so gross 🥴
OMG THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THE FACT THAT NEGATIVITY GETS 10X THE VIEWS. I feel so validated, love you.
Looking rn and she's literally on the explore page. How tf does she think she's shadow banned ? 😂
She’ll say it’s because her meltdown is working 🙄
I'm honestly not a fan of Gabbie, but she should step away from social media for awhile. It's clearly not doing her any good.
yeah it’s like girl unclench...like relax and work on yourself in your new mansion lol it’ll be ok just try to be better
she is definitely not shadow banned. When I look up her name her music comes up FIRST. Even her newest music videos that came out days ago. People just aren’t as interested as she wants people to be.
I feel like Gabbie is always on the cusp of having a mental breakdown and I think giving her views will only be a positive reinforcement for her to continue this type of behavior. She should take a real break from social media.
I used to watch her, then she started pushing the narrative that her life was so amazing and everything is so good and that she was going to be a famous singer and youtube is just a side thing and did I mention how amazing she was doing?? Lol, felt so forced, like when you are trying to lie to yourself and so not genuine, that I had to stop watching and really thought "she is on her way to a breakdown". I hope it doesn't get worse than this.
She doesnt understand shadow banning. Her music is in my recommended ALL THE TIME. I know a channel that is shadow banned that has 500K subs and gets 10-15K views. Her views are fine. People just dont want to watch lol sorry gabbie.
@@LK-gp9yv How do we know people are actually being unsubscribed and likes are removed? Are we going by her word and where is the definitive proof these things are occurring? Anybody can say these things are happening in a video. I think she doesn't want to face the fact her channel is dying and maybe all along she's her own issue and the cause of the loss in views/popularity.
@@Omni-Blast She tweeted about it and replied to a video showing it happening in real time, check her twitter when you get a chance
The thing is, the unsubscribe thing happens to lots of creators. Samantha March has talked about it. Mikey (Glam & Gore) has talked about it. I personally got unsubscribed from RawBeautyKristi several months back and watch her all the time so I’m not sure how it happened. It’s not a Gabbie Hanna specific thing. For her to claim it’s that “CZcams is out to get her” is just BS.
Gabbie was litteraly removed from my watch history. And I know i watch the video because I liked it and when I found the video myself it showed that I liked the video. How do you explain that?
@@kyonlamb Ah, ok. Got it! I wasn't aware so thanks for letting me know. :)
Can we all just admit that youtubers dont have a very long shelf life? Its strange that ppl still dont understand that and have melt downs and blame everyone under the sun for their channel organically losing subs and becoming less popular over time. I dont think it means you should just give up. But dont forget that someday it's going to happen and you will go back to having a smaller more hard core audience. Melting down may give you a small bump in popularity in the moment, but it's a bad path to go down in the long run
Gabbie Hanna has done things I would never let someone in my life get away with, never apologizes and expects to continue to profit off of it. I think her actions are showing up in her stats and instead of growing up she’s pushing a new conspiracy theory. I’d much rather watch a tea video than give her views.
To me, a sincere apology isn’t concerned with backlash. It expresses regret. To me, it’s even worse that gabbie is a public figure. She’s hurting her audience by severely misunderstanding what their problem with her is....they want her to take accountability and actually listen to them
and not the people who might be harassing her. I’m not really a fan but it upsets me to see someone get away with such bad behavior.
When the drama hit about her and I was disappointed, I just stopped watching her. Does she not get how that happens?
Seems simple to me .. 🤭
She can't except that people just may not want to watch her or are unsubscribing on purpose. People outgrow and move on. I don't care for her music at all.
Let me get this straight. When the drama hit HER, you stopped watching HER, and it’s HER fault that she just doesn’t understand that’s what happens when she goes about minding her own business? Get a clue
@@nikolashepheard97 it's her fault for not addressing things promptly (and instead making a video months later when no one cares anymore in hopes of getting some hype for the new music) and letting people decide what they decide with what info they do have. she doesn't own anyone an explanation but on the flip side, no explanation doesn't absolve her of consequences. that's the business she's in. talk shit get bit. there's a clue ;)
@@nikolashepheard97 Gabbie brings drama on herself all on her own and doesn't expect it to come back and bite her.. I think you need to get a clue.
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1) I unsubscribed, and her new music video was still included in my suggestions.
2) She has not been shadow banned. It may be possible that CZcams isn't promoting her like it used to, but I don't think they are necessarily actively suppressing her content.
3) She still has a lot of room for personal growth. She doesn't seem to take responsibility for her actions, and she seems to have a "victim mentality".
4) She doesn't seem to be self aware. She's almost constantly involved in drama BECAUSE OF HER BEHAVIORS AND TREATMENT OF OTHERS.
THIS!!! 100%!!!!
I think people in her circle truly need to be more honest with her. I can’t imagine being in any creators position where you feel like you’re being wronged and everyone around you telling you that you are and that it would be absolutely insane to think otherwise. I often think about the people around creators and how much that has an influence on things. I feel like no one talks about it either.
Also no one ever talks about how Gabbie claims body positivity while being so fat-shamy and toxic about weight on social 24/7.
I understand that dog piling on a person is unproductive, so I usually just stop watching people who I see as morally disagreeable.
Her reaction to everything is frustrating. She has this constant air of “how dare you not like me”. One day I truly hope she learns that no one is required to like you or the work you do. It’s just a fact of life. When she learns this I think she’ll be a lot more at peace.
that’s not her air. she doesn’t care if people don’t like her, she cares about the lies that are being spread...
Hailey Youngblood wow I can’t believe screenshots of her literally harassing 17 year olds is “lies”
And it's not like they don't like her for go reason. She gives off a very iffy vibe and is making it worse with every new video she releases. It makes her look worse than ever. She did it to herself by doing bad things and then trying to cover it up by lying.
Hailey Youngblood i wasn’t specifically talking about the lies but then again they’re not lies. I was talking about her book her music and in general her attitude and demeanor online. People don’t like it. She needs to learn to accept that.
She has the attitude that if you don't like her work you just "don't understand it". She says that she doesn't care about people not liking her work but then freaks out when people critic it, and has some excuse about why they just don't understand it. Its really annoying tbh.
The bit that winds me up so much about her previous situation is when she says 'I only supported Curtis before the article.' You needed an article to believe a friend?!
Gabbie did not know what had happened! Jessi hadn’t told her, because she didn’t live near them! She was literally living hundreds of miles away at the time and didn’t receive any info before she arrived in la! Wtf?!? She never supported that man! The article was the first thing she ever heard about it! Leave this poor woman alone, SHE NEVER SUPPORTED HIM AFTER SHE WAS AWARE OF THE SITUATION
@@cliodhna3611 I'm like 95% sure that not telling someone something because they "don't live near them" is NOT a valid excuse anymore. Tell Gabbie to request a messenger pigeon next time I guess
juz2chillz4u oh so do you just expect that in the weeks following an assault, jessi would just hop on the phone to catch gabbie up? No! She wouldn’t have told her because she was healing and talking wouldn’t have been productive to her mental state, and no one else would because that would have been wildly inappropriate because it’s not their story to tell! The fact of the matter is is that gabbie never made a video with the man, never took a picture with him(he took one with her without her consent at a party and she made him delete it), she never supported him privately or publicly, and she has stated she does not and never will and never has supported him after the assault! The second she knew what he had done she stopped her friendship with him, I don’t understand what else she could have done! And what did she even do that would have shown she supported him? Seriously, what! What did she do!
Cliodhna you forget that they were best friends at the time. I’m pretty sure she would’ve mentioned something to her, warned her at the very least about Curtis, before the article was made.
me: :(
smokey glow: hey hello everybody how are you i hope you are having an AMAZING day
me: :)
I'm sorry but Gabby's music would not do as well if she didn't have a pre-existing fan base, her fan base skews the numbers so much. none of her projects outside of CZcams would do well if she had not had the CZcams fan base that allowed her to go outside of making just CZcams stuff
But what does that matter? Her fans should be the ones primarily enjoying her music. I don’t see the point in bringing this up because it makes it seem like it’s a bad thing that the consumers of her work are predominately her...fans. As it should be. I don’t think her intention is to become a mainstream artist and completely abandon her CZcams platform so if it works for her, it works.
ya but is that not the point???
I don't really see the point as most people don't succeed in entertainment without a fanbase. No shit she's doing well because of her fanbase, that's just how it works.
Just like she said a million times
Thats the whole fucking point
That’s the case for a lot of big CZcamsrs though isn’t it? And I actually know a lot of people who found Gabbie Hannah’s music before they knew about her CZcams channel :(
Remember when she tried to imply Jessi Smiles was manipulative for exposing her? I was gobsmacked
That’s the first thing I remember about her and judge her character
The AUDACITY
Especially considering Jessi only came out because Gabbie was talking about HER.
@@thingsnstuff2934 actually, gabbie never said anything and it was jessi who kept making post about gabbie and blocking gabbie when gabbie tried to talk to her but go off
nopat detected you made zero points yet you felt the need to finish your false statement with “but go off” 😐 jessie only recently brought gabbie up because she was asked a question very briefly in a q&a about gabbie. jessie is a rape survivor. if she wants to block rape apologists then she can.
When it comes to Gabbie we must take wisdom from the phrase "Manage your expectations"
Dustin Dailey checked her tags and she doesn't even have her name listed with her new music video, which of course, she's done in all her other releases. Things that make you go, "Hmmmm?"
👀 oop
Sorry, what does it mean?
@@daskevica you can tag videos (e.g. "music video", "unboxing", "grwm", etc.) but she could have tagged it "gabbie hanna" so it comes up in people's recommended who watch gabbie/people similar to gabbie. by not putting her name in the tags, it's going to effect how well the video is recommended- convenient considering how she spun this whole situation. also- gabbie has been known for tagging drama channels in her videos as well, which is a bit fishy
As someone who used to watch her videos, can objectively say I enjoy some of her music, and even some of her content, I also can’t bring myself to support her anymore. She feels disingenuous, and the constant blame game instead of just owning up to her mistakes doesn’t sit right with me. We all make mistakes, the difference is she looks to defend herself instead of just doing better. Your points were all really well made and I wholeheartedly agree!
Same exact boat here!
Exactly... I used to watch her a lot but she is so smug, lately. And she acts like the world is against her and only her... honey, the world is against everyone, relax, you are not that special.
I have my suspicions that she might be a narcissist to a fault.
Exact same here. I've fallen off of watching her. I'm still subbed but haven't watched a video in awhile.
I love your positive attitude even when you’re discussing depressing drama.
I honestly think that gabbie should just leave social media. She’s constantly in drama and it clearly doesn’t make her happy.
Edit: Oops! I predicted the future!
She’s too big headed for that. Seems to think she deserves millions of views for everything she does as an average human.
TÝNA fair enough. I don’t think she’ll get off unless she’s forced to do so.
You did a great job at breaking this down for someone who’s not a Gabbie Hannah fan but still wanted to know what was going on 👍🏻
That sweater is EVERYTHING
It's Julia Mazzacato's (I think I spelt it properly) merch. She has a ton of different designs🥺
If you like Smokey you’ll like Julia.
Blue Solo Smokey is more like able but YES
Ironically, I have only watched like two or three of her videos ever and I still get recommended her content semi-regularly.
I can’t believe the ego you need to have to see your views and engagement decrease and automatically think “this is a conspiracy against me! They’re suppressing me!” Instead of thinking “hmm maybe my content is not that great?”
The same thing happened to Zoella. Hit a peak and then bled subs until she left it seems.
Oh gosh I hope she leaves
i don’t even remember how i stopped watching her and i forgot about her until one came into my recommended it was either her pumpkin patch one or her smear test two very different things i know
When I was subscribed to Gabbie, I did notice I wasn't getting notifications for her videos. But I don't really get notifications for anyone's videos I'm subscribed to. There's maybe two or three creators I'll get notifications for, and even then, it's not every video. I, as someone who has actively searched for 'drama' videos to get information about what's gone on with her scandals in the past (no, not to hate, just trying to 'manage my expectations' and know who I was supporting), also see some videos pop up that don't show her in a positive light when I look up her name. Some. As in most of the content I get served in that search are from one of her two channels. I get served her content on my feed even though I unsubscribed because I used to watch her so much. In fact, I remember feeling like there's not really enough coverage of all the shady crap she did before all the major scandals happened. As much as I enjoyed her old storytimes with all the dramatics and overhyping, when she put out that self-roast and said she was being over-dramatic to distract from her behavior being problematic, she was spot on. I always left feeling like there was major info missing and the need to have the other side of the story. But that is the nature of some storytime CZcamsrs, you want to hear the other side because the way they tell the story is just too 'I'm in the right, this other person is absolute insane.' But the fact that everything and everyone around her is constantly at fault and just coming for her for no reason just reads like a genuine lack of self-awareness. Yes, using her name will boost visibility for 'drama channels' and such. But I guarantee that hashtag is not drawing in the same views as a Jeffree Star or Trisha Paytas. Gabbie's views never recovered after the Kenza thing. She's joked about low views herself for years now, because of lack of consistency or whatever. That now, once again right before something was released, she makes it about how CZcams is against her and drives all of these people to specifically search for her latest music video to see what's up is tactical. CZcams is the second largest search engine after Google, you drive people to specifically search for you, you're driving traffic and exposure and boosting your own ranking. She said CZcams is where her music and content is performing the worst, so how do you fix that? Create a reason for people to search specifically for you. I work in digital marketing as a content developer, (granted, my content is written, but it's the same shit) this is who this works.
So, I'm not going to deny the fact that Gabbie isn't as popular as some you tubers, but when I was on her live I was literally unsubscribed without me doing anything. When I tried to put that comment in the chat my comment was deleted. Also, Gabbie was getting the likes and comments that should have been significant to the algorithm but she was not getting the views.
Sis wrote a NOVEL Lmao
I definitely agree with you I think that she took a leaf out of Lana del Rays book and thought it would be smart to say all these accusations and nonfacts to start a discussion and give her free pr for her new music. I’m still subbed to her but I’ve prob only watched two other music videos of hers and yet I’ve seen the new one and it’s a huge topic of discussion because of what she’s saying.
Gabbie Hanna just seems to be another influencer in a long line that doesn’t have the business acumen or self-awareness to stay relevant long-term, and I think that’s what happens when you devote your life to a platform that feeds your ego based on more or less 20 edited minutes of footage per week. I love watching CZcams videos, but some of these massive creators become very difficult to tolerate once they reach a certain level of notoriety and subsequently forget what made them interesting and watchable in the first place.
Yes, girl. Yes.
Yes, 100%. Many content creators think they are innovative or extremely talented, but it is not that difficult to make decent content on CZcams if you're willing to put in some time and effort to do so. It's also interesting how entitled some CZcamsrs, like Gabbie Hanna, can be: They want fame and money, but they don't want to put in the work that they put in their earlier videos to continue maintaining their fan bases. I don't watch big-name channels anymore because I find them very unrelatable and trite.
So many youtubers don't realise that being an influencer is essentially a business and they actually need to treat it like a job. I watched a James Welsh video the other week where he said that he started treating his channel like a job and spent a lot more time on it and his channel did a lot better.
Not everything is a conspiracy. People are just disappointed in her and not interested anymore. I stopped watching any of her videos and any drama videos about her because I'm just tired of her. She constantly refuses to acknowledge any of her mistakes and it all feels like a lost cause
She probably has never experienced being able to take accountability & have it be OKAY. Like for someone who used to be so funny, she never learned to just laugh at herself you know? She’s got to justify everything & it’s so off-putting. Idk she reminds me of my narcissistic ex. Lol
Yeah and the fact that she's now calling all the creators that have a problem with her like Jessi and Trisha narcissists on her podcast is just 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️i hate to agree with Trisha, but the girl is so delusional, and she projects alot.
lets just say it: she is less relevant now. That's it. It's because people like me stopped watching her because of whichever scandal out of the assortment they took issue with- for me it was Jessie Smiles. For others it was XYZ.
honestly imo the views are not the same not because of YT but because we are simply done with excuses and "water under the bridge" when nothing has been addressed, ACTUAL constructive criticism has not been listened to and fans have been insulted for her actions. I don't think it's hard to imagine people simply became frustrated.
Plus, she seems like she's taken on this mean girl persona that I think alienates some of her more mature fans and makes them think that she's not a very nice person. No one wants to support a person that they think is immature and harmful to others (like Jessie Smiles and Trisha Paytas).
Jessie Smiles made a video called “Gabbie Hanna needs to be stopped” That says a lot more about her than anything she had to say in the video. I’m sure all youtubers have beef with other people but those who make it public are the scum. And that’s that.
I used to be an avid watcher and a huge fan of hers until I realize how toxic she is. She is toxic. I’m in my mid 20s and I realized like damn you are a shitty person. She is a type of person that I avoid now a days irl like my life depends on it. She definitely either a narcissist or has borderline personality disorder, which I think she should take a break from everything and truly get treatment.
@@gabrielleoana1092 not really. A lot of people must be stopped because they are using and abusing. What Gabbie did to Jessi is terrible, and the way she reacted after the video (DMing and manipulating fans who were also minors) made everything worse.
She had to be stopped.
Lucía Blaügeschutz Please Gabbie didn’t use and abuse her, they probably both were toxic to each other. But only one of them made a video about it. And she also got everybody fooled. If you think about it, that’s what master manipulators do. People say Gabbie is a manipulator but a true manipulator is never doubted. Unfortunately bad people are more credible then good ones, I’ve seen it so often. Plus, if you stir shit up publicly be ready for the smell that comes with it.
Can we take a moment to appreciate this eye look? OooOoo
I was a HUGE fan of Gabbie's a few years ago. I slowly fell off the Gabbie wagon just because I got disinterested and grew out of her content. I'm really happy that I had pulled away from her naturally because I think if I was a fan of hers when 💩 hit the fan it would have really hurt and shocked me. No one made me quit supporting her. I just realized that a lack of self-awareness + forced adult themes + childlike tantrums is only entertaining for so long before her content becomes a net drain for her viewers. I liked that she was open about mental health but now I recognize that there are so many creators out there making content opening up discussions about anxiety/depression/etc. WITHOUT having to pad their views with toxic stuffing.
Okay I’m gonna need more bright colored eyeshadow on you! You did that
I totally agree with you that I don't think she realises what she's doing, the thing that struck me most is that she overshadowed her own music video release with her drama, then complained that agents weren't associating with her because of drama? makes no sense to me at all. loved the video and the makeup and completely agree with what you're saying!
I agree. I also think her problem has a (somewhat) simple solution. She hasn’t rebranded herself and remain consistent with her new “thing”. All youtubers have their genre of videos that people subscribe for and it’s clear she doesn’t know what she wants to be. Or she does know and doesn’t want to put in more of the work.
I don’t think it’s drama or cancel culture causing this. Worse youtubers (unfortunately) have come out on the top. I think people are simply uninterested and moving on to the next thing.
Her name shows up in drama situations wayyyy too much for me to ever consider her a victim of anything
Rewatching, cause Gabbie is behaving horribly once again and trying to silence smaller youtubers, like Rachel Oates, who is amazing and really know a lot about poetry
yeahhhh. I always forget she exists until someone else i follow/subscribe to brings her up. I stopped with her and Trisha for the same reasons: I don't find watching people self destruct entertaining. for a little while its amusing, and at times I've genuinely felt bad for them. but then you see the pattern of "everyone HATES ME!" and "bad things always happen to ME FOR NO REASON!?!?!!" and its like...damn. how old are we?
I dont understand being the people who constantly berate these influencers because it truly does feed their delusional narrative of how everyone is out to get them. so you just gotta walk away (like I did from most of the vlog squad whole Jason and Trisha were dating 😝).
but like. *that* is whats happening. you're 1000% right. she's nowhere near as popular as she used to be, for a number of reasons and the numbers are reflecting that. 🤷♀️ (I'm wondering if as her audience has gotten older, they've gotten less entertained by drama...seems plausible.)
She wasn't shadow banned she did it to herself by being a iffy person and iffy CZcamsr. She's being losing fans for a while now. Thats why her views are down. People are tired of her doing the same thing over and over again so they leave.
how can one person lack this much self awareness... does she honestly not understand that most people find her cringey and don’t want to support her after all the problematic shit she’s done. also her music is... not great. when i type her name i get her main channel first and her second channel second. and her music is at the top bc i have youtube music. she is not shadowbanned LMAO
And I’m back to rewatch this with what’s currently going on 🙃
What’s going on? Just find out about her existence and now i got curious lol
She bugs me. She is always the victim. People probably aren’t watching her because they’re over her crap
Gabbie Hanna’s music isn’t trending maybe because it isn’t very good.
It charted 3 times but ok
@@PeculiarlyMoll Yeah, lots of dumb 12-year-olds like her music.
KeikiiArt its still ass
KeikiiArt Milli Vanilli had five Top 5 Billboard songs from one album. Charting means so very little.
Her content isnt shadowbanned ... shes not getting views bc we cant stand her anymore
exactly
i love your commentary videos bc i can tell you’re very educated and informed on the situations you’re talking about and i love that you kind of talk about both sides to situations not just the side you’re on
One of Gabbie’s music video literally popped up when I searched “Smokey Glow”
She says CZcams started shadow-banning her after Jessi uploaded her video. What I think happened: a large number of people stopped supporting Gabbie after that video, hence her views dropping, hence CZcams not recommending her vids anymore. It’s not CZcams’s fault. She needs to get back up, start creating GOOD content again, and gain fans/subs back. Instead of playing the victim. It’s so exhausting to listen to her at this point that I unfollowed her on Twitter and I never unfollow anybody on Twitter.
This video aged so well
she straight up told teaspill to “stop gaslighting” her i laughed so hard bc teaspill wasn’t even doing that.
Teaspill is an incredibly unproblematic channel.
That seems to be her favorite word
@@cbandit because thats what she(gabbie) does best, gaslighting haha
She is so convinced that she can't even be somewhat responsible for this problem she's experiencing
*Smokey Glow:* Explains the Taylor Swift theory.
*Me while practicing Getaway Car on guitar:* [surprised pikachu meme]
Ugh one of my favorite songs.
Smokey Glow THE TASTE POPPED OUT
“I really dislike channels” honestly if she ended the sentence there I would have still agreed
In today’s episode of ... ‘CZcamsrs need to get over themselves’ 😒
Being a genuine fan since her first video in, I think it was 2014(?), to 2019 where I realized how toxic and just so far removed from reality she is, it's incredibly upsetting to witness such a harsh downfall, honestly. I wonder when she'll ever see her wrongs and stop pointing the finger at someone else.
You’re literally pointing a finger at her🤷🏼♀️ and so is this video so just saying
@@janekatzer1199 Yes because she's in the wrong.. .-.
@@caspiancasey For what, exactly? What has she done wrong that she hasn't apologized for? We've seen her mess up and apologize when she's messed up, so let's not pretend she's incapable of taking criticism.
@@bbtdgfan890 shes never apologized for thr kenza cosmetics situation. Also the fact that she outright started the drama with trisha for no reason and still tried to justify it is not a good look. Even with jessie, she just straight up said it didnt happen that way. Nothing she says seems sincere when she doesn't accept full responsibility for things.
Also a huge and easy example of her not accepting valid criticisms? Her poetry book. Most people dont dislike her for no reason at all, even though she likes to pretend they do. They dislike her bc she continues to get involved in drama and still claims like nothing has ever been or ever is her fault
What was strange for me is her having all these friends who kept dissappearing.. I understand growing apart but all the people she used to be friends with from vine and her early years of CZcams are not her friends anymore
I unsubed from gabbi purposefully. Because she is just too problematic. Too many reasons why.
same
Same
I've never watched your videos before but you are very smart and well spoken and you give a great perspective
She is a very intelligent and empathetic person. She recently graduated from college and I believe she majored in social work. She is very fair and articulate with her points in many of her videos.
I can see getting dragged into drama a couple times where it may not be your fault but when you continuously get involved and somehow you are always the victim... look at the common denominator
What’s annoying is she wouldn’t listen to any of the ppl telling her that her videos were popping up. Her videos were being recommended to me left right and centre like a week ago. She’s not shadow banned. People just don’t want to watch her half-assed content anymore.
it was more about what was being recommended when you search up her name and how her music videos wouldn’t trend bc of the accusations against her. even though they should’ve
Makeup is ADORBS this video. So so cute, not an everyday look but girl. Giving me Limited Too throwback vibes that get me in my good feels ❤
Limited Too...?
@@ckevorkianxo Google...?
Slay Step 1 No lol I know what Limited Too is, I thought it was a backhanded compliment - Via claiming it was in someway “young”. The internet the past year has made me quite cynical as far as my expectations from people... I mistook what you were saying.
The green eyeshadow and the contrast of your blush is absolutely adorable on you and I LOVE your sweater. Edit: btw your hair looks amazing! Like it looks darker and I love it.
The volume in this bus is aStRoNoMiCaL
Could you do a video on the Kristen Leanne “Animal abuse” and “Racism” allegations?? Someone on Reddit made a laundry list of harmful things she has “allegedly” done to her animals but she made a video today claiming that every bit of it was a lie. Would love to hear your thoughts
She replied to me on Twitter and was basically like “jessi used my name for clout 😤” like okay 😳😳😳
can we get a link?
ae nonya twitter.com/justinarnstein/status/1272341872829218817?s=21 idk if links work on CZcams bc I’ve never posted one but here you go
All of the comments on that thread are literally what Hannah is talking about with fans just allowing Gabbi to rewrite history 😅
????? Evidence ?????? That link isn’t working and plus she is.
She responded...how is that rude? Isn’t that what you wanted?
You’re so positive, I’m glad I’m now subscribed to you. I watched your Shane video where you dissected his apology and that was done excellently. So pleased to be apart of this new fandom. X
Gabbie has just always rubbed me the wrong way... idk
yeah same like even when i was watching some of her vids i thought...like...something felt weird and she’s been associated and friends with a lot of people and for all of them to drop her (esp vlog squad) it made a lot more sense to me after the jessi situation came to light 🤷🏻♀️
Just checked my trending page and she’s on it. God what else does this girl want? She’s an entitled spoiled brat. She listens to no criticism (because she either 1.thinks she’s perfect or 2. She considers all criticism to be hate) and goes on in life proclaiming to be this giant victim. When are people just gonna let her fall off??
oh, on a positive note - your makeup is literally GORGEOUS. everything about it! perfection!
She kinda sounds like someone that "earned too many participation trophies" which causes her to have more expectations
Gabie needs to see this and hopefully introspect as she listens to GOOD feedback
Honestly I've never understood the whole "I'm going to start drama so people read my book/listen to my song" argument. Maybe the people I know are just different but like... I've never known anyone that's like wow this person is annoying and bad I'm going to go engage with their content. Like I don't understand how this kind of drama is supposed to drive views for her music?
That’s exactly how I feel.
It's the "any publicity is good publicity" mentality.
Problem here is, unlike Paris Hilton in her day, youtube culture is 100% in the know and they make choices based on that. Not just by hearing the name over and over regardless of the context.
If you look for HER stuff and buy her things and listen to her songs it's 100% an educated decision.
I have been watching Gabbie and how she handles things. I think she is trying to get her audience to watch-watch-watch to make up for the perceived hate-hate-hate she thinks she gets. It is more about getting your fans to rewatch to support than to get people who dislike her for being a drama queen and professional victim to watch. I also think she thinks she has more stans than she does, because her stans spam from multiple accounts.
It’s not about wanting to look shitty, it’s about wanting to look like a victim. If you’re a victim, people feel bad for you so they engage in your content or buy your stuff to show support. Remember how many screenshots there were of people buying Tati’s vitamins the week after the James Charles drama?
Well, then you aren't accurately looking at the situation. Everyone is subject to drama. Some people are really good at "I'm going to start drama so people......' They are the ones you don't think about or their drama has met your needs as well as their own.
Love you, Hannah!
Btw, I would love for you to make a video about the whole Shane, Jeffree, and dramageddon 2 situation... I've heard you say in the past that you think Shane has changed (like last spring lol), and I agree, but do you think he is now problematic by association? Because silence is compliance and he has stayed pretty silent about Trisha, Jeffree, etc. and now this has come out.... thoughts?
I'm waiting on that too.
Me too. I definitely want a video on all that. I think Shane's been shady for a while. How much of a nice guy can he be with his own problematic history and his friendships with some of the worst youtubers? I undubscribed from Shane after the Jake Paul video. I thought it was so biased and he just ignored when Alyssa Violet was describing abuse. That really made me question him.
Marisaeds3 literally took the words out my mouth and i started watch him at 7
Alizee made a good video on it. Shane has always been shady, he never changed. He literally got big making videos of racist characters
I’m hesitant to make a video because whenever I’ve made videos against jeffree in the past it’s very obvious that his die hard stans are not going to change there minds on these situations it’s really good to know that’s a video you guys would want to hear my take on and it absolutely change my opinion on Shane.
"That's why we're not uploading video's at 3 in the morning, because nobody would be watching them"
Meanwhile being in Europe :c
Watching this in May 2021 like 🙃😂 she clearly learned nothing.