Perennial Ryegrass Pros and Cons
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Perennial ryegrass is my favorite cool season grass type and it makes for a fantastic lawn if you know the pros and cons going into it. Today I'll share with you my experiences with this grass type so you can better choose if it's right for you!
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You have TWO different PRG blends, which does best in Pacific Northwest, Zone 1?
When I first get started with trying to get the lawn of my new property into proper shape, the biggest attraction and pro of the ryegrass is its quick germination and ease of establishment. As a newbie to lawn care, I found other grass type a little intimidating, requiring many more days of continuous watering; a task made more complicated by not having in-ground sprinkler system. With the quick germination and establishment, it ryegrass gives beginners like myself the confidence and encouragement necessary to keep on working on the lawn as we can see the result quickly.
DSM,Iowa resident jumping in the comments...long time watcher, first time commenter. Thanks for the info Ryan!! Well done!😎
Overseeded with your ryegrass last year, couldn't be happier. Will be buying more soon.
How long did it take to germinate
Oh, seeing your videos starting to appear is a good thing. A really good thing!
I am Virginia Beach and planted your perennial rye grass in mid November. Yes, that was way too late but I wanted to give it a try. There was a couple of frosts during the first week the seed was down and I was afraid nothing would come up. But I was thrilled when I came back in town from thanksgiving vacation and saw a haze of green on my entire front yard. Definitely, a little bit slower to germinate with temps much colder in late November but I had full coverage and even got to mow it before Christmas. Can't wait for it to take off this spring so I can get my reel mower on it. thanks for all your wonderful videos and products.
How's it coming along?
Just in time I'm killing off and doing my whole front yard from scratch about to order ur elite perennial rye iam excited
I live in southeastern Pa. Pretty much same latitude as you and my ryegrass does well when cut long and mowed often. Love the stuff!
You're my "lawn guy" as far as youtube goes. I'm in zone 7A and am waiting to put down my ryegrass seed in my back yard garden. I know I know, spring isn't the best time, but it's a new house, and it's full of chickweed and nettles with almost no grass so I have to till all that up and take a chance on the grass seed. It's been so warm here this winter I'm itching to do it now as we are due for another week of temperatures I'm the 50's.
I enjoy your videos and am looking forward to trying your seed shortly as I will need more than I currently have.
I like PRG but I'm definitely learning towards the new cultivars of TTTF.
Man, I bet all the little leaguers want to take infield practice in your yard 😭😭
Hey Ryan, we over seeded our football field(hybrid bermuda) last fall with Perennial ryegrass. Turned out great. Most say kill off the rye but I’m wondering if maybe instead keep the rye, mow it really low, keep it watered of course and see if the bermuda does well with it. Then overseed in the fall. I know the foot traffic will tear up the rye part some but do you feel like if we spoon feed it, keep it low & watered it can withstand Tennessee summer weather?
I always wondered why, at the end of summer, what the brown stalks were, now I know!
Looking forward to sowing my Fescue BG blend in a couple of weeks
How’s it going Ryan …. I used your Elite Ryegrass in the fall and it is the darkest green color grass I’ve seen. Really happy with it so far. The big test will be this summer when temperatures reach 100-110 in Fresno Ca.
I’m in Fresno too. Last summer was brutal. Really hoping it’s not the same this year.
@@andrewmunoz9642 How did the PRG do in the summer heat? I too just ordered some from Ryan. We live in zone 7a where high summer temps are often 80-95 for 2 to 3 months. Based on everything I am reading, if I keep it watered and use a fungicide, it should do ok. How does this cultivar from Ryan handle the heat in your area ?
Added some to my Fescue and Blue
I had some Ryegrass mixed in parts of my yard here in Denver, Colorado and a lot of it didnt survive the winter. Winter here was very cold from November onwards and long stretches of dry weather. It didnt seem hardy enough for the full sun zones. The Turf Type Tall Fescue was money though. It did great. KBG does great but it really cant survive the dry and hot summers here if watering is not heavy and with perfect coverage. I have not seen KBG spread well here at all. If even a small 4' section dies off the healthy grass next to it does not creep over. Nothing. Maybe its the drier air and the high elevation.
The mountain west is definitely a tough environment for grass. I think I’m going to overseed with TTTF this fall.
Sissy grass is king 🤴!
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Fungus has definitely been the biggest struggle I have had with the PRG. Both in summer and winter. Do you have a video that reviews your disease prevention regimen? Thanks!
Pink snow mold showed up in my ryegrass in January. New one for me
I've had it on mine before but usually a rake out and spring temps will bring it back just fine
@@ryanknorrlawncare Thanks for the info. Should have spring temps this week in SW Ohio just an hour down the road from your buddy RD
Same here... just up the road in Columbus. The warm temps kept the ground from freezing in Jan and wet enough for fungus. Very annoying. Never had this before.
Thanks Ryan!
Hold up. We still talking with 2 keystones behind you? Dude that was like over a year ago. I would think you would have a pyramid at this point. Lol. Keep up the good work.
RK! Excellent break down. Is your Elite grass regenerating?
Great videos Ryan. I followed your lawn renovation and so far so good…I think. I’m also using your Perennial Ryegrass blend. One question will the lawn fill in more, maybe after I start mowing? I’m about 3 weeks past germination. I know this is a bunch type grass.
Yes it gets thicker over time for sure but if it's thin you can lightly overseed some of the thinnest spots
I am going to use PRG to fill in bare spots this spring as it gets hot quickly here going from spring to summer. Hopefully that helps.
The word cultivars in Websters should have a picture of Ryan next to it.
Does perennial rye grass typically develop a lot of stalks / thick stems in the month of May?
I love your videos and your advice! Thank you so much
Looks very good. I love the stripes. I live in Northern Kentucky. We have summers that range from eighty and ninety degrees fahrenheit. My front lawn is in direct sunlight most of the day. I am thinking of doing a full lawn renovation. Down to the dirt. I want to put in grass that will be soft to walk on and be awesome for stripes. I also want to have a thick lawn that will choke out weeds and pesty grasses like Crab grass and saw grass. If I have to over seed every year so be it and water it once a day that is fine. I appreciate any help, advise and suggestions. Maybe a video idea. Would be awesome my friend. Keep up the great work. Your lawn is absolutely beautiful. And the striper system that I saw on one of your videos works great on my Honda hrn 216 mower. Thank you for that as well.
I would go with Turf Type Tall Fescue no question. Water heavily once a week if there is no rain and you are good. It grows from seem easily and pretty quickly. If you do your part you will get 90-95% survival through the first winter if you seed in the fall with good weather throughout. You might need to overseed the next season to have thick coverage edge to edge. Weeds wont stand a chance if you use pre-emergent and spot kill broadleaf weeds with 24d in spring as they pop up. It will get thick and green.
Super
It is great looking
I cut mine to 2 in and I have yellow and it's not super thick.. I did have it grow to like 5 In before first time cutting it and boy was it a dark green color.
How low would you mow with a rotary mower/zero turn to avoid those stems/stalls and seeds?
Get video and can't wait to see you lawn videos!! this year with your new property.I just did a full Reno last fall with your TTTF.
I was wondering if it would be a good idea this year to overseed with your TTTF/bluegrass blend or should I just use bluegrass seed? Thanks again
If you're happy with the TTTF then I prefer to stick with just that but if you're wanting to add a little blue, I'd probably go TTTF/Blue option
@@ryanknorrlawncare ok I just thought maybe to add bluegrass to thicken the lawn. Do you think if I just overseed it will thicken up? Do I have to overseed every year?
Your grass seed page states that: "This product ships from California." Can you please help me understand what that is all about? I thought you were producing your own grass seed to sell. More on the new home please, love those videos. Thanks
I don't ship anything from my physical location. My seed fulfillment is done in California and ships from there.
thank you
Will they’re be any future fungicide pro tips vids coming our way this 2023 season?
I really wish I could have some rye grass mixed in but I got trees, big old ones.
How well does this grass hold up to wet soil and high traffic? My lawn is very low laying so when it gets wet the soil stays wet for awhile (no puddles but poor drainage and very close to the water table level)
I also have 2 dogs and 2 kids that love to play in the backyard so would this holdup well to that?
Can you please do this for TTTF ?
Coming soon
If your next door neighbor had out of control Bermuda grass, how would you keep it from infesting your lawn? From southern Pennsylvania zone 5ish. Thank you
I live in litterock CA, too hot in summer and too cold in winter. Wish sees do you recommend?
So what wld you recommend for MN with sprinkler system and a zero turn as a mower. Almost all 2.5 acres is sun. We have sandy soil with some areas we brought in black dirt many years ago?
Ryan, I have been asked to put in 5k sf new lawn where a 5 foot high thicket of weeds, poison ivy, and vines stood on Nantucket Island, Mass. The area is cleared, I am bringing in topsoil and I'm ready to plant. For at least the next 5 years it will be full sun.
Nantucket is 30 miles into the Atlantic and we are 1/2 mile into the ocean. Not all weed roots removed so we will be fighting weeds back for years.
Lowest monthly average low temp 23°F January, highest monthly average high temp 76° July. Pretty humid, lots of a.m. fog, heavy dew.
Perennial Rye Grass? Fine fescue? Tall? Suggestions?
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I put your Perennial Rye Grass mixed with Petes Blue heat KBG. I usually mow at 3" once a week. Do you think I will see issues with Stems and going to seed?.
great video i love your video i am in south Texas Ryegrass can tolerated heat in Texas ? also the area i am struggling is shade ares but the house it was stall soad Bermuda grass
No it won't survive heat there. St Augustine is a warm season grass that is shade tolerant
What grass can I over seed on my zoysia lawn for a green winter grass. Auburn, AL. No shade, irrigation system, reel mower at 1/2 inch.
What seed do you recommend for Atlanta?
Would like a seed with the quickest growth
Thanks! I'm sticking with tall fescue because I have a lot of shade, need some heat and drought tolerance and don't like mowing my grass short.
I'm getting ready for spring here in the Chicago area. When do I need to get a pre emergent down and what can I do if I need to do some spot seeding?
When your soil temp is nearing 55° you need to apply pre-emergent. Ryan’s got alot of good videos on spot seeding/seeding on his channel.
Thank You for the video, what state are you in?.
Good morning Ryan, I need help with my lawn. In September I seeded Kentucky Bluegrass and Tall fescue. All was going good until I got Poa Annua weeds. What’s the best advice or products you recommend to get rid of these weeds?
Home depot and Lowe's has a hose hook up spray for it.
Have u ever tried or tested Barenburg RPR?
Any timeline on when we could expect the smaller bags of seed to release? Really looking forward to the shade mix just don't have a need for 25lbs of it.
10 pound bags will be out soon
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Couple questions about your Swardman…. Have you had any trouble with the reliability? Some report issues with repeat belt and cable problems. Is yours the 18 or 22”? Been really thinking about making the move to
I had to replace one drive cable since I've owned it but no belts at all. My concern now would just be the support since I don't really know who is handling all of that after Reel Rollers is not with Swardman anymore.
So do you think 2in is a little too tall to keep out the stalks?
3:55 So if I live in Texas where summers are >100 degrees, this rye grass would not survive? Temperature here can reach a high of 118 around June, but I live this grass type would love to see my lawn this green. Of course I use Lesco fertilizer but I mean Rye grass.
Unfortunately it wouldn't make it through that whole summer very well.
Hello Mr. Knorr
Will your Elite Perennial ryegrass grow well in Chicago west Suburbs area?
With irrigation, yes
Which Elite grass works well in Rosenberg TX by the gulf with ample rain
You would want a warm season grass there
Do you think Rye would survive 100 degree heat waves with enough soil wetter and irrigation?
If it's just a few waves of that then it would likely be fine but you also have to watch fungus closely when it's hot and irrigated
@@ryanknorrlawncare I'm in Australia with dry 40 degree Celsius days in summer, we don't get them for 3 months straight but we can sometimes get a whole week of it. I have irrigation though.
Hi, do you have St. Augustine grass seed?
Also what’s a good recommendation for Dallas area grass other than the boring St Agustine that everyone else has. I want to be different.
If you have full sun then Bermuda would look somewhat similar to rye when you mow it low
Best grass for northern Minnesota with snow and cold?
Typically Kentucky Bluegrass
Some ryegrass (SRO Champion GQ) proven to grow in Tucson where we have 90->110 degree days for 6 months of the year. These are paired with a bermudagrass and receive constant irrigation though, but heat tolerant types do exist.
Ryan, does bluegrass turn brown in winter? Like warm season grass does
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@@ryanknorrlawncare thanks. I watched that video the other day. I was just wondering in general do some bluegrass cultivars go dormant brown. If I picked up some seed locally.
Did you break in to your old house to film this or is this an old video?
What is seed head stage
Does perennial ryegrass "heal" or spread like bluegrass does?
There are "spreading" types but it's not very aggressive at all to fill in like bluegrass does over time. I don't find it to be any issues because it grows so quickly from seed when you need to fix a spot here or there.
ideal lenght for ryegrass with a rotary mower is around 2'' and a half ?
Around there or a touch lower. 2 inches is where I like it for rotary
@@ryanknorrlawncare ill this out this year, still a foot or so of snow :P
Has anyone used peat moss to cover their lawn after seeding? It seems as if it would be a very unreasonable cost at ~$24 for 3 cubic feet. my front lawn is 1200 sqft.
Grass seeds loves peat moss as top dressing. It holds moisture, a good start for any seeds.
Ryan, how do you feel about a combo TTTF and Perennial Rye in Michigan?
Personally I don't love rye with fescue because of the texture and that rye does better cut lower but it can be done if you keep the rye on the low side percentage wise
@@ryanknorrlawncare Appreciate it, Ryan! You'll be seeing my order coming through in the next few weeks for TBD!
Hello is this good for a hot summer I live in Tx?
No it is for cooler regions.
@@ryanknorrlawncare what would you recommend?
I love RPR. The color is really cool, but it is lighter. This will be its third year in full intense Colorado sun, and it actually went fully dormant this winter. I'm excited to see how much this helps plus I'm going to let it wake up on it's own this year without pushing Nitrogen. I'm so excited!
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Would a pgr program help with the stalks and seed heads?
If all timed appropriately yes, it definitely should but it can be hard to hit that flush and seed head stage exactly at the right moment
I'm having brown issues in late April which is concerning 😟
Any plans for a spreading type of rye or fescue?
The stuff I have is considered that but nothing like bluegrass would do over time
@@ryanknorrlawncare oh really! That’s good to know. I have a mostly fescue lawn and some spots just have a weird tendency to thin out. I’ve been cutting it around 2” consistently (the wife happens to like it), so I’m considering my options for future overseeding. Thanks for the reply!
I use a perennial rye grass seeds for new ground that has no grass. If you lay out this see it will grow and keep your dirt from eroding. It's easy to maintain and grows easily it's not the best seed but if you have no irrigation and need to lay in grass , this is the seed that you can use.
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Do you see any reasons not to mix elite KBG with Rye? Maybe just not as dark, or as consistent a turf quality?
I have a mix of that available as well. It's an 80/20 blue to rye
Rye is amazing but there is a reason its generally mixed with other grass, kbg or fescue or both
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Ugh this video popping up reminds me I have no fertilizer for spring or plan, or knowledge, because I've forgotten 90% of what I learned last summer. Lol ugh
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Should mention that perennial ryegrass might not survive a cold winter in cold climates.
I've tested this for multiple years in -30 temps where I live without issue but certainly some of the older genetics had that issue
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Slippery when wet
Rye has too many stalks for my taste. I don’t have thing set up to go low, so I keep my lawn at a medium height. Rye throws up the stalks, which just look ugly.