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  • čas přidán 23. 03. 2024
  • Phreak was once the voice of League of Legends: he introduced the community to all the newest champions, helped viewers understand the game, and was there for some of its most memorable moments.
    But when Phreak made a career change from casting to game design, all of the community’s good will and love turned toxic - and, nowadays, Phreak gets blamed for basically everything that’s wrong with League.
    But Phreak isn't responsible for everyone's problems, so what's going on? Is all the Phreak hate really a symptom of a bigger problem?
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Komentáře • 933

  • @piosenki001
    @piosenki001 Před 4 měsíci +2022

    Dearest Karthus,
    I hope this finds you well. We seem to have found ourselves in a dire situation at the bottom lane. Please consider casting your ultimate ability to assist us as i do believe Lee sin has come to dive our tower.
    Sincerely, Your bottom lane

    • @3nd1ess77
      @3nd1ess77 Před 4 měsíci +36

      Enclosure: A keyboard with a functional R button.

    • @clarence3238
      @clarence3238 Před 4 měsíci +113

      This is the exact moment where phreak ruined his reputation. It was single handedly the most tone deaf comment to the community and I think community opinion on him plummeted after that. Saying that you can type karthus R in a game with pings for faster comms is so unfathomable, and removing said pings. I feel the community has become more angry that they cant ping than they would if they got pinged. And what's the point of a mute button if you're just going to push it for us.

    • @Eisenthorn4179
      @Eisenthorn4179 Před 4 měsíci +14

      Funnily enough, the dude behind these changes got pinged in game and people correlated it to the changes.
      Funny stuff

    • @clarence3238
      @clarence3238 Před 4 měsíci +8

      @@Eisenthorn4179 Yea but how is that not immediately realized as a shit change. Feels like common sense for "the high elo player" phreak.

    • @CRaZyAbOuTYuGi
      @CRaZyAbOuTYuGi Před 4 měsíci +1

      Take a break if u getting too toxic

  • @dingleberrychipchapichuta
    @dingleberrychipchapichuta Před 4 měsíci +520

    Never forget "Vel'Koz E doesn't fizzle" by Phreak even though every single Vel'Koz main said it fizzles for years. Then Riot August fixed the bug Phreak denied it exists

    • @Langharig_Tuig
      @Langharig_Tuig Před 3 měsíci +51

      This! Phreak very frequently tries to gaslight people, gets called out upon it/people get mad about it and then he acts like the victim...
      Phreak is simply not a good person.

    • @itsmehehe6585
      @itsmehehe6585 Před 3 měsíci +17

      You're are so uninformed the fact that you write down this crap here is honestly hilarious, and of course you get 115 upvotes to prove the point of the video.
      Phreak was responding to/tried to reproduce the "bug" that was VelKoz E "fizzling" ON DEATH.
      And as it turns out, it wasn't bugged, Vel'Koz's weird animation just hid the fact that the cast time of the E was not complete by the time he died.
      Casts are interrupted on death. Works for every champion, including Vel'Koz. Player's were just "huh but look it finished casting so why doesn't the ability remain as I die" when in reality, no, they simply died before the 0.25 seconds cast time was over but got confused by Vel'Koz's confusing E animation.
      August later fixed an entirely different bug, related to what happens to Vel'Koz when he is moved (either by flashing or forcibly by his opponents) outside of his E's max range after casting it.
      Phreak didn't talk about that bug and the people in his chat weren't telling him about it either.
      So yeah, long story short, the people were wrong about one Vel'Koz bug, Phreak was right about said Vel'Koz bug not being a bug, other people were right about a separate Vel'Koz bug and August then fixed that bug.
      Yet you're out here in the YT comment section spreading BS.

    • @Langharig_Tuig
      @Langharig_Tuig Před 3 měsíci +35

      @@itsmehehe6585 No Phreak was literally wrong... why are you lying? He's not going to notice you; he's not going to bed with you

    • @dingleberrychipchapichuta
      @dingleberrychipchapichuta Před 3 měsíci +26

      @@itsmehehe6585 Good phreak fanboy I'll roughly quote azzapp the velkoz main who started all of this "It can be an entirely different bug or maybe not a bug at all, maybe just a visual thing, maybe Vel'Koz animations are not clear enough which causes the confusion for the player base. But you do not go against the player base saying "they're all wrong" and "velkoz mains don't know their champs" you try to understand why and what they're complaining about."
      Also your story about whole "august fixed a different bug" is wrong, because august fixed the fizzling upon death bug and the another bug related to flash/movement ability canceling velkoz E, which Vel'Koz mains complained about since champ's release (2014?). Even if we go with your story Phreak as a game dev and spokesperson calling the entire player base clueless is the worst thing a spokesperson can do (not to mention player base being right here as well)
      Your duty as a game dev or basically anyone who's offering a service is to understand what's wrong by your customer's feelings, if a player base is complaining about something for YEARS maybe don't deny it in 10 minutes then call the player base clueless? Maybe actually investigate the problem and see what makes then complain about a problem for years? Maybe accept you can be wrong? And ask yourself why did Vel'Koz players never complain about E fizzle after August fixed it? Maybe there was an actual solvable problem huh?
      You can go on with the Phreak fanboy narrative or you can do a google search which won't take more than an hour to see you're the misinformed one here.

    • @paulohenriquedossantos7633
      @paulohenriquedossantos7633 Před 3 měsíci

      @@dingleberrychipchapichuta Well, here's what really went down: Phreak got the whole thing mixed up and maybe for what i'm reading you too. He thought people were complaining about the "fizzle" upon death, which is just how the game works for every champ. Although some people were complaining about that, the majority were actually talking about the "fizzle" when you get out of range (usually by flashing). "Fizzle" upon death while casting was not fixed because it is not a bug, the cast time was changed according to range, but if you die while on cast time the ability will fizzle out.

  • @asambi69
    @asambi69 Před 4 měsíci +1481

    The biggest problem with Phreak is his lack of owning up when he makes a mistake and the fact he's condescending (even when he's clearly wrong) Take the Vel'Koz mains giving him feedback and him just saying L2play...that's not how that ability works.

    • @Madeforfun100
      @Madeforfun100 Před 4 měsíci +28

      I really doubt the head of game dev is allowed to say he fucked up. That feels like something the CEOs would not like.

    • @thecrimsondollta2153
      @thecrimsondollta2153 Před 4 měsíci +49

      This comment gets it. We all know people behind a keyboard can be the worst of the worst, but there's a tiny part that actually tries to communicate to the game devs, and with no return, not only that, he just goes and makes fun of the community.
      Also, adc are well known to be very toxic players with complex, they end up being given tools and complain still, but God forbid to give something to jungles and top laners.

    • @AzureRoxe
      @AzureRoxe Před 4 měsíci +46

      @@Madeforfun100 My dude, CEOs have acknowledged when they fuck up. FFXIV's devs have publicly, in a stream of many many thousands of viewers, apologized for mistakes.
      Phreak just has an ego.

    • @Arizona9001
      @Arizona9001 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Nah. Whyd you just decide to make stuff up in the comments?

    • @Windw00d
      @Windw00d Před 4 měsíci +18

      He says he fucks up in his videos literally ALL the time. Idk what you are watching. Clearly not his videos.

  • @DamianRavenhold
    @DamianRavenhold Před 4 měsíci +660

    The story of Phreak is just a self fulfilling prophecy. Riot makes changes, players get upset and complain to employees that have a public presence. Phreak gives a condescending response, pissing off players even further. Repeat until Phreak ends up becoming the literal devil in the eyes of the players.
    He just needs to step away from socials at this point since nothing except him being fired will satisfy the players now.

    • @yupcb
      @yupcb Před 4 měsíci +22

      yep, and now he'll be criticized for not communicating with the community like he once did cause that's just the internet

    • @Solid--Snake
      @Solid--Snake Před 4 měsíci +7

      phreak getting away from socials wont stop the death threats because league players do be like that

    • @Alatreon22
      @Alatreon22 Před 4 měsíci +33

      I would say that is not really true.
      The problem is, as a few Streamers have said it in the Video, the way he is communicating is horrible.
      He pisses off more players because instead of addressing feedback of the community, he doubles down on a change that was made WITHOUT giving ANY arguments that do underline that decision.
      Riot changed pings to not be shown to everyone, that resulted in a lot of negative feedback, not just from part of the community, basically everyone (to this day) hates the change.
      It also doesn't fix the main problem (toxicity) that Riot wanted to reduce with it.
      It creates gameplay problems that may lose you a game because you couldn't ping someone's ult, potentially even increasing toxicity since you tilt and rage due to the fact you cant communicate properly...
      So what was the response?
      "You can type", literally telling the community to not use pings (that were invented so people NOT have to use the chat and communicate faster/better) because they can use the chat.
      Meanwhile we live in a time at which the chat is MUCH less often used or even seen by players since main communication usually were the pings for many years.
      This was by the way also forced onto the players by Riot BEFORE they made this ping change...
      So he is provoking the ENTIRE community by defending a dumb decision with an even more stupid argument that speaks against the MAIN reason why pings were even invented and the general direction Riot was taking for a couple of years.
      Is it really THAT surprising he gets so much hate?
      No, not at all!
      While he may not be the main cause of all changes people are unhappy about, he is the main face that shits into players faces by trying to defend ANY change made by Riot just so he never needs admit that they made a mistake.
      Chances are, Riot could delete every skin players have purchased without refunds and Phreak would still find a way to defend that decision...

    • @medhany1785
      @medhany1785 Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@Alatreon22Phreak did give insight in why the ping changes happened.

    • @user-rn1ws5id8h
      @user-rn1ws5id8h Před 4 měsíci +1

      The game is shit and has been dying a slow death for years.

  • @saibot1050
    @saibot1050 Před 4 měsíci +690

    Issue with Phreak, Post Game Design role, is the fact he became so HOSTILE. He took everything as a personal attack, and just made it seem like he was a god of knowing what is right. There is a reason people love August, he proves his points or agrees he was wrong, plays goofy builds etc. Phreak just has a severly condesending tone, and talks as if everyone else is a simpletin that has no brain capacity to understand what league really is besides him.

    • @XIplupIX
      @XIplupIX Před 4 měsíci +60

      Probably cause half the community is personally blaming him.

    • @saibot1050
      @saibot1050 Před 4 měsíci +105

      @@XIplupIX that only started after. His tone in his youtube videoes went from "Uhh we tried this what do you guys think! :D" to "Nah ur wrong my stats are right, and if you dont agree its cause ur dumb lol".

    • @PaoloBosi
      @PaoloBosi Před 4 měsíci +5

      Sure buddy.

    • @rageofsweets
      @rageofsweets Před 4 měsíci +11

      phreak plays path of exile so there's a good chance he actually IS smarter than most of the league of legends community

    • @smthng
      @smthng Před 4 měsíci +56

      @@rageofsweetsso just because someone plays a sweaty game that overburdens a player with unnecessarily big skill trees they're automatically smart?

  • @Kaiser25
    @Kaiser25 Před 4 měsíci +238

    - To respond to the ping removal, a system to allow for faster communication, he says "just type Karthus R"
    - In the face of Vel'Koz needing buffs, he essentially said that the players who play that champ don't know how he works and he didn't get proper feeback despite there being proper feedback
    - Leaves a champion overtuned (Maokai) for over 2 months, abuses said champ to hit grandmasters for the 1st time and posts it on social media mocking the community saying "Maokai nerfs cancelled"
    This all happened in like the past 4/5 months and I'm not even including stuff like some champion who were clearly overtuned and annoying to face against being untouched for so long. The death threaths aren't justified in any way, but there are reasons that are clear as day for people to not like what he is doing to the game and how he is communicating about it

    • @teemowhite9845
      @teemowhite9845 Před 4 měsíci +7

      no they are he is too provoking

    • @jenokrivanszki7762
      @jenokrivanszki7762 Před 3 měsíci +3

      and we forgot how ap kaisa terorrised for almost 3 months. if he would just make community pools which champ which ability which item and how it would be nerfed.but no MEH im rito phreak i can do what ever i can. then plays as the victim. u can make 2-3 different kind of pools or 1 for each rank the game would actually be balanced for rank i think. and u can even make 1 for the pros and if they overlap with each other bam u have a match nerf that champ with the said pool again. riot just refuses to put in the work or even ask for opinions

    • @hypotheticalsinglewoody
      @hypotheticalsinglewoody Před 3 měsíci +1

      Lmao that shits hilarious. Common phreak W

    • @lush2711
      @lush2711 Před 3 měsíci +1

      he also said that the recent asol buffs that made him 56% WINRATE "was at least successful because it increased his playrate"
      well yeah the champion was 56% winrate it's a no brainer his playrate will increase, and the fact he thinks this is a good thing is the reason why he gets all this backlash.

    • @davguev
      @davguev Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@teemowhite9845Still not justified, that's like taking a 10 to 100.

  • @window9213
    @window9213 Před 4 měsíci +201

    Idk not nerfing maokai properly for continuous patches then posting a twitter post of you hitting a rank you don't deserve with the title of "Maokai nerfs are cancelled" Is probably not a good way to communicate with the playerbase.

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 Před 4 měsíci +13

      As a filthy Maokai player; shit's broken as fuck and needs a major nerf, just look at high elo streamers, he's picked constantly

    • @orendamusic7577
      @orendamusic7577 Před 4 měsíci +10

      That champ has been turbo unbelievably broken for literally years and they can’t figure out how to balance him

    • @DCDsauce
      @DCDsauce Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@kristoffer3000I like how with Maokai's rework back in season 6, they changed his ult because they thought that him being able to go in, eat damage and do aoe is broken as fuck, then proceeded to give him a half-map long AOE CC that has made him must pick as long as he's viable in one of any role.

    • @leonsixt2744
      @leonsixt2744 Před 4 měsíci

      @randomvideoboy1yes it’s so fucked that roles champions and items are picked and used a lot different than they are supposed to.

    • @endefisto123
      @endefisto123 Před 3 měsíci +1

      To be honest it was the same with smolder release. I spammed him and had a huge WR close to 80% and climbed, but as an adc main it finally after years felt I had a good impact on the game which was balanced by beaing weak early and then instantly it got hyper nerfed making it boring again, but champs like ksante and maokai don't get nerfed ever.

  • @c9manic959
    @c9manic959 Před 4 měsíci +315

    Its because he can't keep his story straight. He goes on and on about statistics, and when it gets pointed out that they obviously don't indicate what he says they do, he backtracks into "we you know I really just balance around vibes"

    • @PaoloBosi
      @PaoloBosi Před 4 měsíci

      Oh, does it bubu?

    • @SomniaCE
      @SomniaCE Před 4 měsíci +9

      Same thing goes for 99% of complaints from fans, too. Only diff is at least Phreak is largely coherent with his points. His biggest issue is just that he's too worn down by people being dicks to him so he is too toxic to be the voice of patch notes rn.

    • @Alucard2091
      @Alucard2091 Před 4 měsíci

      Yes papi ​@@PaoloBosi

    • @AzureRoxe
      @AzureRoxe Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@SomniaCE PHREAK is coherent?

    • @DauneYvanDaune
      @DauneYvanDaune Před 4 měsíci +1

      @randomvideoboy1 its true tho....

  • @thesx1131
    @thesx1131 Před 4 měsíci +226

    Its honestly impressive how fast he speedran every ounce of respect the community had for him

    • @twigz3214
      @twigz3214 Před 4 měsíci +18

      Yeah, used to watch most of his patch run downs but stopped in the past 6 months because they feel more like a vehicle to crap on the community and justify his opinion than to do anything productive anymore.

    • @KrackerUncle
      @KrackerUncle Před 4 měsíci +11

      @@twigz3214 well, maybe the community is just super toxic and can't take hits back. it's nothing new that the lol community is ultra toxic...

    • @Moonking7
      @Moonking7 Před 4 měsíci +13

      @@KrackerUncle the community gave phreak a dose of their toxicity, and hes pushing back with his own comebacks and they are getting upset at it. It's literally the pot calling the kettle black. just because phreak is a design lead, doesnt give you a good enough reason to send threats to the mans life, over PIXELS ON A SCREEN, the pixels arent paying you money for talking shit about the popular punching bag, thats not how that works.

    • @twigz3214
      @twigz3214 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@KrackerUncle I mean all he does is rile them up and some of his takes are just blatantly incorrect and have been previously already been proven wrong and he speaks like he’s above everyone and everyone else has no clue what they’re talking about. I think the issue is the design lead just treating the community like complete shit, yeah people shouldn’t threaten him but they would also probably do that less if he stopped acting like everyone else is clueless when they give constructive criticism and useful advice. I doubt the majority of people are actively that toxic toward him, he’s responding to the minority and ignoring the people who actually do give useful feedback making them wonder why they even bother.

    • @InTecknicolour
      @InTecknicolour Před 4 měsíci +1

      it's impressive how people blame him for their own failure at this game. learn to adapt. before phreak, the game balance did some weird meta changes too. does no one remember the tank meta, lethality meta, blue ezreal etc. etc.

  • @clarence3238
    @clarence3238 Před 4 měsíci +117

    Phreak reading patch rundowns after he became lead balance team feels more like him finding reasons to justify his changes rather than explaining why they needed to happen. Back then Phreak had no hand in balance and so explaining it felt more connected because he wasn't apart of the machine yet. Now he has a direct influence, it feels like his current patch note reviews are more of him justifying why he made that change, even though most pros or high elo players would've had a different solution to the problem or wondering why certain champs haven't been touched. Phreak is always right and we're wrong, he sits on this throne of superiority and that all balanced changes they do are the correct choices (even though they arent as they soon have to follow up or revert them.) They will never admit fault for their shitty balance.

    • @OneOfMoMo
      @OneOfMoMo Před 4 měsíci +4

      Also the champs he plays are buffed. Almost as if Maokai was only nertfed after he hit GM hmmm

    • @AshnSnowMD
      @AshnSnowMD Před 4 měsíci +1

      @randomvideoboy1they dont tho, adcs SHOULD counter tanks, if that can happen in game is a different story

    • @jasonchangdalekrule
      @jasonchangdalekrule Před 3 měsíci +1

      Phreak's rundowns provides us with the single most transparent source of balance change information we have ever had in the history of League of Legends.
      He and the team can be wrong, but his patch rundowns provide insight into why the balance team made the choice they did, and how the numbers are meant to shape out.

    • @clarence3238
      @clarence3238 Před 3 měsíci

      @@jasonchangdalekrule Anyone can read the patch notes, and yea when phreak reads them we get to understand what THEY were thinking when doing the balance change. But most of the time they say their idea and what they want to do, and then go about it in wrong ways. They fail to identify the actual problem that needs to be balanced because of their lack of in game experience. Challenger players need to have a direct line of communication or forum to let them know what actually plagues those games.

  • @XSoul93
    @XSoul93 Před 4 měsíci +341

    Damn they really blame him for everything, it almost like he buff the champions he use in ranked and is hurt by pings

    • @edu-hi9ws
      @edu-hi9ws Před 4 měsíci +3

      fr

    • @mikevos4460
      @mikevos4460 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Or he just played what's known to be very strong and has a high winrate. Plus didn't buff them only nerf them

    • @Zamoksva
      @Zamoksva Před 4 měsíci +47

      @@mikevos4460 his main (maokai) was classed as the best support with a 56% wr in over 4 patches, without even getting nerfed whe neveryone was complaining about maokai

    • @Moonking7
      @Moonking7 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Zamoksva heres just a small thought, maybe instead of blaming phreak, you should just play better and actually try to counter the champ instead of having daddy riot do it for you.

    • @Zamoksva
      @Zamoksva Před 4 měsíci +41

      @@Moonking7 I see that facts hurt your feelings, I had no problems playing vs maokai but he was the most broken support for multiple patches without nerfs. Cry more if you cant handle facts, I played vs phreak multiple time when he was on maokai and he does nothing impressive, he is just broken

  • @jametsuchan
    @jametsuchan Před 4 měsíci +24

    7:40 K’Sante mains malding as if they don’t main the most broken over tuned champ in the game

  • @JgHaverty
    @JgHaverty Před 4 měsíci +62

    Phreak has made a near consistent habit of being belligerently aggressive, constantly shifts blame and has very very little personal accountability and responsibility, and makes himself the scape goat for an incredibly toxic competitive pvp game. Then spends an exhorbitant amount of time "justifying" what he has to say by using baseless statistics in a misleading way and claims everyone is dumb.
    Does the man deserve death threats and personal attacks? No, of course he doesnt. No one does, and thats terrible behavior on its own. That said, he makes himself *very* hard to feel sympathy towards.

    • @takeshi110
      @takeshi110 Před 4 měsíci

      AAall

    • @takeshi110
      @takeshi110 Před 4 měsíci

      A

    • @JgHaverty
      @JgHaverty Před 4 měsíci +1

      @randomvideoboy1 his ideology behind the (lack of) changes is whats been most concerning. He's kind of like LS, where they look at very specific things in a weird vacuum, then apply it carte blanche. "Disagreeable" is a polite word here. I play shyvana and fiora top, both of them absolutely demolish tanks. Shyvana has so much hybrid and HP damage, that itemizing against her is almost impossibile (unless youre dumb and go full AP shyvana lol) its a weird angle from phreak.

  • @ad1tyajha
    @ad1tyajha Před 4 měsíci +33

    Dearest Karthus,
    I hope this finds you well. We seem to have found ourselves in a dire situation at the bottom lane. Please consider casting your ultimate ability to assist us as i do believe Lee sin has come to dive our tower.

  • @AthenesWrath
    @AthenesWrath Před 4 měsíci +13

    I haven't played League in almost 10 years but I still remember him being condescending when I tweeted about a tribunal chat restriction I got where I did not write a single toxic thing in the logs and he responded with "if people voted to punish you, you obviously did something that warranted the vote so you deserve the restriction". At that time you got a reward just for voting on the tribunal so a lot of people just blanket voted yes in the system.
    I liked him as a caster but the guy should in no way be involved in any important decisions regarding the game and I am 99% positive he got the position just through him knowing people in the company and being famous. Anyways, League of Legends is a trash game anyways so for all I care it can crash and burn and if it's Phreak who helps with that it makes it all the sweeter for me watching from the sidelines.

  • @tafadzwamanzini5463
    @tafadzwamanzini5463 Před 4 měsíci +18

    If he wasnt annoying . In general before the position people would give him space . Its the person

  • @GothPaoki
    @GothPaoki Před 4 měsíci +19

    Phreak is possibly the worst choice you could make as a company to communicate with the game community.
    Dude not only has zero communication skills but has an ego bigger than the Eiffel tower. He responds to everything like he's the only smart guy and everybody else is stupid. Can't take any criticism even in cases he's clearly wrong.

  • @INCNetski
    @INCNetski Před 4 měsíci +95

    Bro thought he was Icefrog

    • @NyangisKhan
      @NyangisKhan Před 4 měsíci +8

      I don't like what Phreak is doing but Icefrog is washed bro. When a hero is OP in Dota2 he remains OP for half a year lol. For example It took them almost an year to tone Medusa down after her rework. She was such a menace that iirc stayed at a 55% wr for almost an year. And that is just a singular example. Sure at the moment dota2 is probably at the most balanced state the game has ever been but usually there are like 5 heroes that literally dominates the game and a dozen more that is OP.

    • @reapercreamer3446
      @reapercreamer3446 Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@NyangisKhan THIS! LoL feels unbalanced because of the constant metashifts caused by the frequent patches so the players has to adapt to the new meta frequently but in reality the game is balanced. While dota2's patches aren't very frequent so there isn't a lot of metashifts so the game _feels_ balanced but in actuality the game has horrible balancing.
      Dota2 feels good to play if you've got a day job and doesn't have the time to adapt. Which is kinda why Dota2 has a lot more older players than LoL. It's also the reason why it feels fine to come back to Dota2 after a long hiatus while LoL feels like a new game after 2 or 3 months.

    • @lovemir681
      @lovemir681 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@NyangisKhan This is probably just a server difference but Medusa's wr in sea and eu servers is extremely horrible especially on high ranked lobbies, she is just so easily countered it's not even funny now Timbersaw, Drow and Slark on the other hand are metabreakers and the only way icefrog gets to nerf them is to have slark no longer steal agi per kill, drow gains lower agi from her ult and revert timber's skills to magical instead of pure.

    • @NyangisKhan
      @NyangisKhan Před 4 měsíci

      @@lovemir681 I was talking about the medusa of 2023. She's fine now after a couple of patches. But she was a menace from march 2023 to november 2023. Like I said Dota2 currently is probably at the most balanced state the game has ever been. It feels great to play the game now. The only thing that has been keeping me from playing more frequently are the screeching south east Asian 12 year olds.

    • @AMabud-lv7hy
      @AMabud-lv7hy Před 4 měsíci

      @@reapercreamer3446Eh, you're just blaming a strawman while pulling baseless info out of your ass. LoL is balanced horribly in the fact that once you lose that lane, you're basically screwed for the rest of the match. But in DoTA 2, even when enemy heroes completely counter you, you can coordinate with your team and buy items that covers those weaknesses to pull a comeback. I've personally seen enemies losing with a 20 kill advantage just because of one crucial mistake, enough to change the game. Compare that to LoL, where surrendering after 15 minutes is not unheard of, with your complimentary side of bickering and bitching about it even after the match is over.
      DoTA is balanced around team tactics and synergy, LoL is balanced around 1 or 2 guys in the team carrying the whole team to victory with a couple of trickshots that slowly but surely turn the whole tide in their favour, and that's why it's balanced to your teenage mind which can't thrive off of that rush at the risk of a comeback from the enemy team that you need to consider even at your strongest. The fear filters you out of the game.

  • @MysticZefer
    @MysticZefer Před 4 měsíci +49

    He's literally head of the balance team. He is literally responsible for 100% of the balance changes that come out. Delusional Cope

  • @medhany1785
    @medhany1785 Před 4 měsíci +9

    To this day, I remember his dumbass shit analysis on Rumble mid or jgl at one of the MSI's. He concluded that Rumble should be played in only one of the roles due to a superior win rate. He ended the segment with a condescending suggestion to everyone, including pro's, to play Rumble only in that role 😂. Phreak is beyond saving.

  • @dominykaszakrys3373
    @dominykaszakrys3373 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Lol Shaclone saying that "death threats is unhinged" while he himself destroyed his career by actively running it down on many different accounts and explicitly wishing other people cancer, death and to "find a rope" is hilarious

  • @mandlemannn
    @mandlemannn Před 4 měsíci +72

    12:30 There's a difference between "unanimous approval" and most patches receiving consistently 70-80% disapproval from the player base which is what has happened since Season 13 to now.

    • @JTHousek
      @JTHousek Před 4 měsíci +19

      Yeah because if it was 70-80% disapproval from all players I'm sure he'd still be working there...
      Fortunately the circles you frequent and the people yapping are not the majority.

    • @arionell
      @arionell Před 4 měsíci +15

      @@JTHousek Found the ARAM player lmao.
      NO ONE is happy with the current state of the game. Not high ELO players, not pros. No one. It has been one of the worst states the game has ever been.

    • @ihatezombies1455
      @ihatezombies1455 Před 4 měsíci +5

      "70-80% of the player base" (citation needed).

    • @williamhobbs4202
      @williamhobbs4202 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ⁠@@arionellpeople are hardly ever happy with the state of the game lmao

    • @JTHousek
      @JTHousek Před 4 měsíci

      @@arionell I don't think I'll base my opinion on any information from someone trying to use the word "Commusim"

  • @7arooofps
    @7arooofps Před 4 měsíci +27

    There's a reason why Phreak is generally hated these days and Mortdog is generally loved.

  • @Sluggwurth
    @Sluggwurth Před 4 měsíci +6

    They wouldn’t blame him for everything if he didn’t make changes and then abuse those changes in solo queue.

  • @anonamos225
    @anonamos225 Před 4 měsíci +174

    Caring about a league player's opinion on anything is one of the worst decisions you can make in life

    • @doubledonkus7092
      @doubledonkus7092 Před 4 měsíci +39

      Nice try phreaks alt acc

    • @azelynhirano7737
      @azelynhirano7737 Před 4 měsíci +8

      Phreak plays league more than 95% of the playerbase. Checkmate atheist.

    • @dylandalgliesh2348
      @dylandalgliesh2348 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Almost as bad as taking financial advice from a Faze clan member

    • @manporo5865
      @manporo5865 Před 4 měsíci

      I mean, that's not untrue

    • @tinminator8905
      @tinminator8905 Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah, hours league played is one of the best inverse measures of mental illness.

  • @Magnetcross
    @Magnetcross Před 4 měsíci +28

    This video is correct, Phreak isn’t the only issue. Riot Auberaun removed @ alive , pings/ ult pings. Because he was feeding as karthus adc in a d1-masters game. His teammate top kept @alive him in the chat lol. Phreak defended this by saying “you can type karthus ult in the chat”
    Lmfao
    Phreak even got to masters playing maokai support and not nerfing it until AFTER he hit masters. Even posted in twitter joking “maokai nerfs are cancelled” just to add insult to injury.
    Phreak is like that Minecraft staff mod you liked seeing in the server then he became an admin and abuses his power

    • @colinpatton7289
      @colinpatton7289 Před 3 měsíci +2

      making things up? maokai was nerfed in like 3 patches in a row and he had hit master the previous split. He had hit gm for the first time right before the third maokai nerf went through. Like you guys just make things up in your head to hate on phreak instead of his actual mistakes lmao

    • @zat1245
      @zat1245 Před 3 měsíci

      But you can type it. It’s really simple. I’ve been typing to replace these pings with no issues.

    • @swordyshield
      @swordyshield Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@colinpatton7289 the fact that a champion needs to be nerfed three times in a row should make you realize how incompetent the balance team is. I'm sure he didn't keep maokai op to abuse him but it sure as hell seems that way to everyone in the community when he keeps playing it, then it gets a tiny nerf and he keeps abusing it.

    • @TheTibiacalmera
      @TheTibiacalmera Před 3 měsíci

      @@swordyshield Look, I don't usually enter into online discussions, but you're generally wrong here. Game balancing, specially for a game like league, is a HUGE monster, and these devs have to make MANY balance changes EVERY 2 WEEKS. Many of these changes have interaction with other changes, and sometimes the ecosystem of the game can suppress a nerf that a champion would get just by the playerbase making other choices of builds, runes, etc.
      Maokai is a great example of that. In the first nerf to the champion they also buffed a support upgrade that benefited him (but he wasn't building before the nerfs), making his WR not drop that much. The second time they nerfed him a little bit more to a WR he had for a long time before being considered broken, just to see if people would adapt (WR is a sum game, for Zed to be 48% WR, someone else needs to be 52%, and with that enters game feel [aka how it feels to play against specific champions]). At the third nerf they nerfed both him AND the support upgrade he used the most, so he dropped his WR to 50% (below 50% at master+).
      Another example I can give you: Sona, Pyke and Taric. Sona is at 53.2% winrate atm, with 0.3% banrate and 6.6% pickrate. Pyke, on the other hand, is at 50.2% winrate, with 15.6 banrate and 7.6% pickrate. Taric has a 52.8% winrate, 0.3% banrate and 1.6% pickrate (almost the lowest pickrate in the game). What do you think is the right call here? Pyke is more popular (pickrate), less fun to play against (according to banrate), but performs worse than Sona (winrate). Should we nerf Pyke, because he's unfun to play against? Should we nerf Sona, even though people don't care about playing against her as much? Should we buff Taric, since nobody plays him? The decision aren't always obvious.
      In fact, 3 out of the 5 most played supports in the game have a sub 49.6% winrate. Should we buff all of them, since they're winning so little?
      Game balancing is about making decisions, and so much more than getting a character to 50% winrate. It's about how it feels to play with (and against), what is the best solution long term and how to not alienate people that play these champions. It's not easy and you can bet that they're doing their job right.

    • @swordyshield
      @swordyshield Před 3 měsíci

      @@TheTibiacalmera you can say what you want to try to defend the maokai but it still demonstrates a clear lack of knowledge. You have to remember that maokai winrate was truly insane, giving him small nerfs was never going to fix the problem. And sure I understand how hard it is to properly balance a game like this due to how changes can interact with each other, but it's also the balances teams JOB to know those things before they happen. If you nerf a champ but also nerf all of their counters and you fail to predict that that champion will not be hit as hard as you planned then that's just you being an incompetent balance team.
      "Should we nerf Pyke, because he's unfun to play against? Should we nerf Sona, even though people don't care about playing against her as much? Should we buff Taric, since nobody plays him? The decision aren't always obvious."
      this is only a problem because league tries to cater to the casuals and also to the competitive players. If we were balancing for one or the other then the choice would become incredibly easy, we would not buff champs who are already strong just because of low pickrate(that's what reworks are for) and we would nerf champs who are 2 strong (even if their pickrate is low). Stats also don't just tell a full story. Pyke is annoying to play against if ur sona/have a sona support so his inflated banrate could be partially due to her being meta. We don't further nerf him we just nerf sona since he isn't even the problem.
      Say what you want to try to defend the balance team but other high elo players saw the patch notes and knew that maokai would still be op. The balance team missed that multiple times and it's just really that simple.

  • @harrisali663
    @harrisali663 Před 3 měsíci +2

    The K'sante point is where he got a lot of heat cuz when he was giga op, he refused to nerf him. Reason being low pick rate, when his pick rate was only low because he had the highest ban rate at the time.

  • @saltylemonz258
    @saltylemonz258 Před 4 měsíci +7

    I mean someone made pings only visible to yourself. That's the guy who balances champs.

  • @metasins
    @metasins Před 4 měsíci +57

    If this video doesn’t talk about his condescending attitude towards the playerbase then they did ZERO research on why people hate phreak so visciously

    • @jasonchangdalekrule
      @jasonchangdalekrule Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@randomvideoboy1 Which class is supposed to be the natural counter to skirmishers in sololanes, if not tanks? Consider skirmisher defined as high mobility bruisers, such as Fiora, Riven, Irelia, Camille, Jax.

    • @zat1245
      @zat1245 Před 3 měsíci +1

      You all deserve to be talked down to with how much everyone thinks they can even come close to having n intelligent opinion on game balance. I have never heard a good take from a single player on anything.

    • @fklmrek437
      @fklmrek437 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@jasonchangdalekrule i dont think any class should really naturally hard counter skirmishers in lane, the point is that they are meant for sololanes and 1v1ing and their weakness is that they struggle in teamfights

    • @jasonchangdalekrule
      @jasonchangdalekrule Před 3 měsíci

      @@fklmrek437 No, skirmishers do not struggle in teamfights. That's just you being bad, by looking for front to back fights instead of flanks.
      Tanks *are* meant to be the natural counter to skirmishers, by stonewalling them in lane, and then beating them in teamfights later. Even when tanks do get to stone wall skirmishers in lane, they don't generally get to force solo kills. They're usually looking to get through lane going even.
      Juggernauts counter Tanks, Tanks counter Skirmishers, Skirmishers counter Juggernauts... or at least how it's meant to go.

    • @fklmrek437
      @fklmrek437 Před 3 měsíci

      @@jasonchangdalekrule Well ur second paragraph is pretty much exactly what I was saying lol. Tanks don’t hard counter skirmishers in the sense that they beat them in 1v1s in lane, they just go even most of the time. Later in the game, skirmishers will win 1v1s in the sidelane, but tanks should have more impact in fights.

  • @valmiro4164
    @valmiro4164 Před 4 měsíci +61

    Shaclone being the calmest person in the video lmaoo

    • @williamhobbs4202
      @williamhobbs4202 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Yeah haha somethings seriously wrong

    • @darkin1484
      @darkin1484 Před 4 měsíci +34

      Unironically adding shaclone saying "death treats are just unhinged" when shaclone has deathtreated like half the population of EUW including me live on stream, is kinda hilarious.

    • @XCrack11
      @XCrack11 Před 4 měsíci +2

      This is a joke :D i thought the same

    • @GG-hi5if
      @GG-hi5if Před 3 měsíci

      @@darkin1484yeah its fucking ironic coming from shaclone

    • @didyoubringthemilk
      @didyoubringthemilk Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@darkin1484XDD

  • @xpertkiller8313
    @xpertkiller8313 Před 4 měsíci +4

    My only problem is the removal pinging your teammates in a game with no voice chat and no room to excessively type

  • @_APG_
    @_APG_ Před 3 měsíci +6

    I love Phreak as a commentator or doing Champion Spotlight/Showcase, but they should keep him as far away as possible from any game balance.
    That said people blaming Phreak for random stuff he had nothing to do with is just initial hindrance.

  • @gragasapmidlane6761
    @gragasapmidlane6761 Před 4 měsíci +24

    theres a reason Riot August doesnt get shit on mans properly explaining stuff without belitteling or arrogancy or shitty "type karthus R XD "

  • @Carlos-qg2me
    @Carlos-qg2me Před 4 měsíci +3

    His problem is his ego.
    If he didnt answer the way hes been answering to people's concern about certain changes, im pretty sure he wouldnt get the hate hes getting.

  • @memelord-dl4un
    @memelord-dl4un Před 4 měsíci +14

    Phreak's lack of self-awareness is fucking confounding. He buffed supports just so he can spam supports and get a new peak rank? He buffed tank junglers just to spam them? That's fucking wild.

    • @memelord-dl4un
      @memelord-dl4un Před 4 měsíci +4

      The statement about the shieldbow is abhorrent. Really? You're going to force a role to ALWAYS pick an item JUST to be able to play the game? How fucking stupid.

    • @martymcfly88mph35
      @martymcfly88mph35 Před 4 měsíci

      And? That's what I'd do too

    • @manporo5865
      @manporo5865 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@memelord-dl4unwho the fuck would want to run a shieldbow, the item has always been trash and now it's borderline useless. Much rather use the new placebo BT.

    • @didyoubringthemilk
      @didyoubringthemilk Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@memelord-dl4un shieldbow is complete dogsht XDD

  • @ChoB1den
    @ChoB1den Před 4 měsíci +68

    Phreak useing stats and numbers to decide what champs need buffs and nerfs, is a huge flaw in his game design philosophy.
    There is this saying that "numbers dont lie", but they DO lie in the wrong context. For example Rakan as Nemesis described lacks counterplay if the player piloting him knows what he is doing. It doesnt matter that he has a close to 50% winrate, because most players are simply bad at the champ.

    • @phoenixflamegames1
      @phoenixflamegames1 Před 4 měsíci +16

      It also doesn’t make sense that Maokai hasn’t been nerfed yet if you look at the numbers

    • @markbuhay9968
      @markbuhay9968 Před 4 měsíci +1

      People who complain about balance publicly without playing the game for their livelihood just have a skill issue imo

    • @sighman9209
      @sighman9209 Před 4 měsíci +4

      That's simply born out of the fact that you have like 4 distinctly different levels of play, with distinct regional metas and so forth each of which wants the game to be balanced around them specifically. And with the Rakhan thing people would be bitching about it regardless of whether they let him keep an elite skewed winrate, ruined him for everyone else or "took away his skill expression". The same song and dance we've seen time and again basically since lol was around.

    • @markbuhay9968
      @markbuhay9968 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@sighman9209 this explanation reminds me of the old animation cancelling issue with Riven, people complained about the advantage with being able to pull it off, and the damage ratios, got tuned down and was still too strong, they just gave everyone the easier way to do it to negate the advantage it used to have in mirror matches (till it got gutted)

    • @ChoB1den
      @ChoB1den Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@sighman9209 thats still not an excuse to be balabcing everything around statistics especially when players do the wrong builds runes etc.

  • @this_smitty23
    @this_smitty23 Před 4 měsíci +4

    It is deserved for the simple fact with the way he chose to communicate with the player base. He's extremely condescending with just about every interaction and refused to own his mistakes. He receives feedback from players that have 1000's of hours on a single champ and treats them like they're inexperienced trash telling them its a l2p issue. You can't do that and not expect negative feedback to come in droves, especially when you put yourself out there as much as he once did. He's very much a numbers guy, which is a good thing, but I feel a lot of the time he values that data at the expense of overall enjoyment. It's a game at the end of the day.

  • @alondite4322
    @alondite4322 Před 4 měsíci +20

    im not saying its phreak's fault, but misteriously once maokai becomes top tier support, he starts maining it to the point of almost being OTP maokai, has insane winrate, MISTERIOUSLY ONCE AGAIN reaches grandmaster with it, and FOR SOME STRANGE REASON maokai still isnt getting nerfed.
    But nah, its not phreak's fault, just a community skill issue i guess

    • @phoenixflamegames1
      @phoenixflamegames1 Před 4 měsíci +8

      That’s the only critism I agree with tbh. Come on man, if you balance with stats, maokai should have been nerfed ages ago

    • @alondite4322
      @alondite4322 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@phoenixflamegames1 he balances around %s like win and ban rates, but if its about a champ he can abuse to climb those %s suddenly are non existent 🤡

    • @mikevos4460
      @mikevos4460 Před 4 měsíci

      Maokai legit was that strong for over a season. And he only started playing it because it had a insane high winrate he did not buff it because he always plays mao normally lol he never played it that much before just like janna. He waa mostly a adc main

  • @darkin1484
    @darkin1484 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Always respected Phreak for what he did for the game and the community for so many years.... BUT, when he moved from caster to the Dev team and started seeing the toxicity I guess it affected him and he also started responding back with condescending and obnoxious way and refusing to admit even when blatantly wrong. Sorry but every ounce of respect was lost at that moment and probably particularly when he they did the ping change and the infamous "Type Karthus Ult" meme spawned. Can't defend dat boi when he's speedrunning his own demise. Death treats are way too far tho. He thought he was the second coming of Icefrog but my man, you're not him.

  • @Eisenthorn4179
    @Eisenthorn4179 Před 4 měsíci +14

    To future game devs/designers out there, it's in your best interest not to talk to your players especially if they're suspecting you of doing things that will benefit YOU.
    Let the PR team handle it or just shut up
    Edit: Especially if you sound like a condescending pos

  • @khalilli6613
    @khalilli6613 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Phreak became a fucking joke after he got spam pinged so hard he removed them from the game and told people to "just type karthus r, it's not that hard"

    • @uiu820
      @uiu820 Před 3 měsíci

      Im although I hate the change cause it's hurt champs with global ults like karthus. Like 90%of the time u would spam ping just to flame ur teamate and they want to cut down on toxicity recently so y not cut the pings when it's main purpose got overrun with toxicity

    • @khalilli6613
      @khalilli6613 Před 3 měsíci

      @@uiu820 because you can just mute people who are using unhelpful pings. also without pings you HAVE to type. and typing too much in league even if you're not being toxic is bannable. people have been banned for typing helpful things more than 15 times in one game. riot is continuously treating the symptoms without treating the problem. implement a toxicity queue for people who display a consistent behavior so they only play with other toxic people. don't allow people to get into a queue with a person on their team they just reported the last game. instead i can no longer communicate with my teammates properly without typing it out which is inefficient and dangerous in game.

  • @mirajahmed707
    @mirajahmed707 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Riot should know that you cant make a scientist to work in army. Just like how Phreak was put onto balancing the game when he was good for casting and announcing champ spotlights

  • @ihavelonghere
    @ihavelonghere Před 4 měsíci +1

    Watching old champ spotlight brings an inner child out of me, it’s like cartoons and a cup of cocoa before school.

  • @jakeberube5779
    @jakeberube5779 Před 4 měsíci +4

    My biggest issue I had with phreak was back when he joined and we got the adc satisfaction patch we were told a year prior that top lane would be getting changes as it fell awful to play and instead of doing top lane patch phreak did an adc patch instead not just once but 3 times in a row. I even commented on one of his reddits posts about this and he responded saying that top lane was never promised anything so I linked him the tweet from another rioter as proof and he just never responded and now in season 14 he has still left top to rot.

    • @manporo5865
      @manporo5865 Před 4 měsíci +1

      As an ADC player, I feel this best explains Phreaks biggest issue. Yes we did get those patches, but they were horrible since nothinng positive happened. It wasn't until mythics left that the role returned to being somewhat playable. Top lane's biggest issue is that it can barely decover once it loses. Like once a player snowballs they're unstoppable and once a player loses even a support champ can solo them

    • @yuricecconi561
      @yuricecconi561 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@manporo5865 the problems with top and bot is that unlike jungle, mid and supp, they are chained to their lanes and can't impact the rest of the map. This makes their lanes super snowball heavy and impossible to get back into the game. It isn't an item or champ problem, it is a fundamental role problem I think, derived from position on the map. Adc getting one shot is more of a state of the game thing than anything else

    • @manporo5865
      @manporo5865 Před 4 měsíci

      @yuricecconi561 that's not even entirely true since you have Ashe, Cait, Ez, and jinx with global ults (not so much Cait, but long reach). Even Top lane with champs like GP and Shen have high impact multilane plays. The issue does boil down to how the lanes usually playout (i.e. adcs perma farm and top laners are isolated on an island).

  • @Nylkky
    @Nylkky Před 4 měsíci +111

    video sponsored by riot, no shot you are trying to defend that guy.

    • @piotrmorag2597
      @piotrmorag2597 Před 4 měsíci +37

      With a straight face, for 15 min 💀

    • @talontedperson1305
      @talontedperson1305 Před 4 měsíci +5

      FACTS

    • @Nylkky
      @Nylkky Před 4 měsíci +15

      @randomvideoboy1 fun fact he also used to flame people for picking maokai support, now when it has been 54% wr for god knows how many patches he starts onetricking it to hit GM 😂🙏

    • @sudsnbuds9878
      @sudsnbuds9878 Před 4 měsíci

      Bro is making a video he probably wants to stay pretty objective unless you want him to sit here and just shit on the guy the whole 15 minutes.if that's the video you want this isn't that channel.

    • @tobbcittobbcit8899
      @tobbcittobbcit8899 Před 4 měsíci +10

      ​@@sudsnbuds9878 no but any credibility falls dead flat on the ground when you're getting paid by the one's youre talking about when it comes to journalism.

  • @EnchoIndieStudio
    @EnchoIndieStudio Před 4 měsíci +6

    One of the most petty person Riot ever hired.

    • @gcavaresi
      @gcavaresi Před 3 měsíci

      Not even close to Pendragon

  • @GARYtheCANNIBAL
    @GARYtheCANNIBAL Před 4 měsíci +17

    "Phreak is a high level player, he reached Master and that's proof that he's good"
    So we're not gonna talk about how Maokai got buffed and then he used Maokai to climb to Master?
    Even though Maokai had a 54% winrate for multiple patches the nerfs have barely pushed him down? Alright...

    • @lemonscentedgames3641
      @lemonscentedgames3641 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Also its his literal job to play the game and make sure its balanced. Nope. Abuses the most broken champ on the easiest role. The irony.

  • @DGrimReeper
    @DGrimReeper Před 3 měsíci +3

    league content creators are the real boomers who couldn't wrap their heads around the newest changes. blamed phreak because easy scapegoat, man did nothing wrong.

  • @Frostbane_Aarvid1987
    @Frostbane_Aarvid1987 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Imagine defending him when he IS indeed the blame

  • @xXNinjaBurritoXx
    @xXNinjaBurritoXx Před 4 měsíci +4

    Phreak really quit playing ADC just to abuse Janna/Maokai Support and climbed from Emerald to Masters for the first time, Coincidence? Maokai was the highest WR Supp for multiple patches in a row despite several "nerfs"

  • @Yokai_Yuri
    @Yokai_Yuri Před 4 měsíci +5

    You should NEVER put a regular ADC main as the lead dev for the balancing team

  • @piotrmorag2597
    @piotrmorag2597 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Stop trying to take pings and normal communication from people and maybe we'll be a bit nicer 😉(Also buffing bs stuff). I think this vid i reeeeaaaalllly downplaying what he's doing... This vid in short is just: He's doesn't really impact the stuff that he's a proud leader of / we're not going to talk about him trashin the community and saying dumb, noob stuff / the hate is not justified and players are toxic / it's just our brains, etc. I'm kinda disappointed 😅

    • @Brazio20
      @Brazio20 Před 4 měsíci +1

      this isn't the first time. remember this is the same channel that tried to downplay the shit Leffen did.

  • @darius9806
    @darius9806 Před 4 měsíci +3

    he hit fkn masters abusing doublesupport which was pick or dodge so hes permastuck diamond for forever

  • @Chizypuff
    @Chizypuff Před 3 měsíci +2

    When you treat a figurehead the way people treat phreak, that figurehead is going to dig in their heels more. The words of a critic who only has negative things to say has no weight. When no one in the community is positive about changes, you have to rely on your own compass and statistics to make changes

  • @humbertvongikkingen8752
    @humbertvongikkingen8752 Před 4 měsíci +1

    How do you know a situation is absurdly crazy and weird? Shaclone chimes in and says so, too.

  • @MaxBurnHeart
    @MaxBurnHeart Před 3 měsíci +3

    "They Blame Him For Everything"
    Yeah, no wonder why. Ever since he joined the balance team, Phreak's ego skyrocketed. Now he's always right while people are obviously wrong. And let's not forget about the things with Karthus and Maokai. I loved Phreak when he was the voice of League of Legends. But the one that is in the balance team? Heck no, fk this guy.

  • @TepesGod
    @TepesGod Před 4 měsíci +5

    Hes the biggest tragedy that has happened to this game

    • @gcavaresi
      @gcavaresi Před 3 měsíci

      A huge W in my book, since he made me quit the game xD

  • @Jhhhhyhhnjgy
    @Jhhhhyhhnjgy Před 4 měsíci +8

    Phreak thinks he is MortDog

  • @ScubaMuhFuckenSteve
    @ScubaMuhFuckenSteve Před 4 měsíci +174

    Dude muted pings for everyone because he got spam pinged. Buffed a champ he was spamming in ranked. Nerfed a champ that was shitting on him in ranked… he shouldn’t have a job if he’s going to abuse shit

    • @heavensent_baby8978
      @heavensent_baby8978 Před 3 měsíci +1

      he didn't mute pings because he got spam pinged. that was a different rioter all together. he balances champions.

    • @ScubaMuhFuckenSteve
      @ScubaMuhFuckenSteve Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@heavensent_baby8978 I forgot who it was but they went over the situation. He was part of it. I’ll see if I can find the video. Obviously other employees have had the same experience but there was a specific situation where someone pinged his ult a bunch and magically you can’t ping teammate ults anymore

    • @Tyrvana
      @Tyrvana Před 3 měsíci

      Janna def not a elo inflated champ copium
      and i play support
      and mained her before the nerfs few years ago.

    • @ScubaMuhFuckenSteve
      @ScubaMuhFuckenSteve Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Tyrvana he spammed Rammus and Maokai and Janna is one of the best currently to climb with right now actually statistically so imagine typing and being wrong

    • @notthalis9545
      @notthalis9545 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ScubaMuhFuckenSteve that was auberaun

  • @kyledabearsfan
    @kyledabearsfan Před 3 měsíci

    I was addicted years ago, and his original champion spotlights i watched with pure addiction when i started. I wanted to know about their theme and the cool stuff they could do! Man. Times change. The general gaming community doesnt think like the loud majority though. Ive played for over a decade, and the community has never liked the game balance for more than 1 week. Sometimes a bit more but some people just cant stand having their favorite things toyed with, but toying with things keeps it fresh. If they didnt, an established meta would make the game boring and player base would dwindle. It doesnt take long for millions to work out the kinks in the work of a handful of devs. Generally, after a few weeks, people have found what is overtuned or has risen to the top through other changes and then people hate everything again lol

  • @gnaix9623
    @gnaix9623 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Stuck in diamond and below for 13years maining adc, reached master using janna maokai sp, has a say on balancing champs, what else to say.

  • @QuantemDeconstructor
    @QuantemDeconstructor Před 4 měsíci +5

    Shen, my friend, my top laner, my comrade, I am sending you this so that you might cast your R: Stand United at your earliest convenience, as I have my own up, and wish to get a double kill for the adc.
    Sincerely, Rakan

  • @Dragonmist19X
    @Dragonmist19X Před 3 měsíci +2

    You can tell which people already have problems with toxicity by how they instantly send death threats to the face of game balance even if he has an unknown influence on said balance.

    • @donkeymoo1581
      @donkeymoo1581 Před 3 měsíci

      He publicly left casting to join the balance team as a lead in 2022. Something is not unknown just because you can't be bothered to research what you are talking about lol

    • @Dragonmist19X
      @Dragonmist19X Před 3 měsíci

      @@donkeymoo1581 You took what I said in a completely different direction that has nothing to do with the point.

    • @donkeymoo1581
      @donkeymoo1581 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Dragonmist19X Oh no the death threats over a game is a valid point. But following a valid point with a moronic statement claiming what he is "supposedly" doing when we all know full well he is in charge of balance invalidates your previous point.
      You can't make an argument about something then have lies in the same argument because then people will ignore any actual good points you made. That would be a debate lesson 101.

    • @Dragonmist19X
      @Dragonmist19X Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@donkeymoo1581 You're again completely taking what I said in a different direction. Never did I say what he was or was not supposedly doing. What I said was his influence over it is unknown.
      Even in a position with a title of lead of balance we don't know how much of said balance he influences or how much he decides on certain things. Maybe everything has to be ran by and approved by him, as silly as an idea as that sounds. Or maybe he's about as similar as he was before but with a fancy title on it.

    • @donkeymoo1581
      @donkeymoo1581 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Dragonmist19X "Even if he has an unknown influence on said balance"
      "I never said what he is supposedly doing"
      He directly said publicly he was leaving casting to take a lead role on the balance team at riot. For the final time there is no debate in what he is doing and as a lead of the team there is no debate how much "influence" he has in the changes. I don't know if you are trolling, missing your helmet or just delusional but there is no argument here. The exact time he took over in a lead role as the balance team the AD role has been the most broken unbalanced role in the game only getting worse every season with the introduction of new infinite scaling hyper carry zero skill champions.
      Also for the last time, like I said previously any real life threats because of a game are incredibly stupid but your baseless defence of him and how much is has ruined this game because of personal bias is insane. I won't bother replying again because I can't possibly dumb my self down any further to be on your level. If you get it this time great. If you don't oh well keep living in your delusions. Enjoy watching pro league with the 40k viewers it's getting this split because every single game is just wait 25 minutes adc kills everyone gg. League is dead and phreak is the direct cause.

  • @quarksarranged
    @quarksarranged Před 4 měsíci +2

    For me its just how wildly incorrect he was about jungle changes and how drastically the game has been changed for junglers in the last 6 months. Something I played and enjoyed for years is just completely deleted from existence for one persons ego. Pulling random numbers out of his *** like "I think jungle is probably 20% too 'OP'". He can be so wildly off and then change the game forever with seemingly no checks and balances. I learnt jungle for 9 years and the new map changes + jungle changes removing skill expression have just made it all for nothing. I stopped playing this season and havent really felt the urge to come back because I have nothing to go back to. Jungle is gone, switching to laning is just too big a change.

  • @theangerborn4257
    @theangerborn4257 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Very reliable video, certainly makes sure to never criticize Phreak for his mistakes he made and make him a poor, poor victim.
    The community rejects this BS.

  • @livingreverie5951
    @livingreverie5951 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I feel like anytime ADC items or something did get buffed, it only made him not be liked NOT CAUSE the Role is bad, but because other champions not in the role can just now hard abuse it and made the lane 90% Support Dependent.
    IE Buffs? Not for Jinx or Jhin, that shits for Yone.
    Oh Shieldbow got better to circumvent the nuclear bombs of Assassins? Nah, Irelia will curb stomp you at level 8 when she only has components (when she still built it, I'm pretty sure doesn't anymore)
    I can keep going, and you can probably make a Very Easy correlation with a non ADC using ADC items and doing better than the ADC themselves

    • @Narekz
      @Narekz Před 4 měsíci

      ADC are meta again, bro is sleeping

  • @AllexTal
    @AllexTal Před 4 měsíci +2

    There are reasons why I personally dislike Phreak but not people like August, I genuinely get the feeling that he doesn't care about things like balancing, but to some degree its the fact that either he doesn't know how to make his point understood properly or he is just delusional with some changes. But there are aswell the things like the vel'koz incident which as a person that represents a company more or less there was no way to mess up more about his opinions and the community, there is not any world where he would be right and a whole community is wrong about their champion.

  • @ohhDarin
    @ohhDarin Před 3 měsíci

    11:35 Shaclone saying death threats are unhinged while hes probably sent hundreds himself is quite funny.

  • @AndreiTeodorPetre
    @AndreiTeodorPetre Před 4 měsíci +3

    blud wants to be icefrog 😂😂

  • @FantasKanal
    @FantasKanal Před 4 měsíci +7

    As an ADC main, yeah I do lots of damage, yes, it should *DEFINITELY* be nerfed, but also, I would like not to get oneshot by an enemy tank 2 levels down on me.
    Its just damage inflation, I play hypercarries with low mobility, everything has tons of mobility, and can oneshot me. So either I dont get oneshot in a teamfight and can clean up or I get oneshot and we loose the fight. I would like there to be skill involved. I remember a time where I won against a 7Khp 12/0 cho as a 1/7 jinx just because I was insanely good at kiting, a mechanic THAT DOESNT FUCKING EXIST ANYMORE.
    I would also like for them to return the items to 25% crit instead of 20% so I can buy 1 item of utility, in case people wanna say its OP: back in the days they had 30% and you got the last 10% from runes and it worked fine... I just want my utility item back, be it a black cleaver to help my team if they are ad heavy or a Bork to get some one hit against high armor enemies.
    Kind regards
    - a hypercerry main

    • @MerlinCross13
      @MerlinCross13 Před 4 měsíci +1

      God I don't even play anymore but I remember the days of just messing around with Caitlyn and Miss Fortune; sounds like I can't even do that anymore.

    • @Ryan112000
      @Ryan112000 Před 4 měsíci +1

      yep, i needed to learn how to kite cause i wanted to get good at adc. Now kiting is not THAT important right now. Its mostly about your teammates peeling you at teamfights

    • @FantasKanal
      @FantasKanal Před 4 měsíci

      @randomvideoboy1 I always thought ADC > Tank > Assassin > ADC, and bruisers are allrounders.... but thats just not the game anymore.

  • @dominicwilliams214
    @dominicwilliams214 Před 4 měsíci

    Let this be a cautionary tale to never let yourself be know if you balance a game with a large following

  • @TripNotorious
    @TripNotorious Před 4 měsíci

    11:40 no way shaclone is the one saying that death threats are too much 😭😭

  • @moestuff4787
    @moestuff4787 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Never get high on your own supply.

  • @caillloyd971
    @caillloyd971 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Ad carry gets one shot by My thresh but still op xD

  • @markgoggin4776
    @markgoggin4776 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I just want 2v2v2v2 arena to become a permanent game mode

  • @itsm1ha104
    @itsm1ha104 Před 4 měsíci +1

    If i remember right his reputation went down to hell after the "just type karthus r" clip cuz its just so disrespectful, the only comms we have are pings and chat and they litleraly removed pings, baing the fastest way of comms when u need someone to r fast and then ofc the jg nerfs which made jg from top 2 roles to being autofill role its just his comunication with all players thats shit

  • @fabiopauli420
    @fabiopauli420 Před 4 měsíci +5

    "He hit masters earlier this year"
    Hmmm i wonder why, maybe cause he is buffing his prefered champions? just a thought?

  • @harrisali7619
    @harrisali7619 Před 3 měsíci +3

    The massive ego he has, is why he's unfit for the role.
    He makes rather emotional decisions. The entire community is telling him even non-ADC players, to do something about the role, but he refuses to fix it because he abuses supp in solo q.

  • @thanhjas
    @thanhjas Před 4 měsíci

    i remember when there were a rioter cass main behind her utterly broken rework. that shit day 1 was causing nightmares to both toplaner and midlaner alike

  • @derechte6086
    @derechte6086 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The problem is he does what he wants and only pretends to listen and then he says so much stupid s* which makes it so much worse

  • @Jeff-wo4xu
    @Jeff-wo4xu Před 4 měsíci +5

    It's just so strange, that Maokai is allowed to have a 54+ wr for 4 patches straight, while any competent game dev would have nerfed the champ into the ground, if only to buff it later. All the while phreak is just cruising through ranked maining Maokai support. So strange how this champ didn't get nerfed instantly.

    • @Brazio20
      @Brazio20 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I am not surprised after he reached grandmaster with Janna spam despite being well known for hardstuck at plat/diamond before it

  • @TrojanSalesmen1
    @TrojanSalesmen1 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I quit LoL like 3 years ago.. I didn't know Phreak was still with them.. makes sense why game still fuckign sucks

    • @InTecknicolour
      @InTecknicolour Před 4 měsíci

      the game sucks because the meta changes like every month and most players are not able to change with it. they also created a mentality that you need your teammates to succeed (so if they suck, you can't win so you int/feed to lose). then combined with how fast the game snowballs now, it's not very fun,
      also for new players, it's basically impossible to learn what 150+ champions do and how they interact with and against each other.

  • @cyruss9455
    @cyruss9455 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Making A Tank As a Assasin Damage Dealer is one of the Worst his Ever do and Many Players didn't like it so much and he keeps Buffing it..
    THE #1 EXAMPLE: *THE MOTHERFCKING K'SANTE*

  • @lastknownwolf
    @lastknownwolf Před 4 měsíci

    Was there a video recently about the how adc is a dead role last week?

  • @ItsSoup14
    @ItsSoup14 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I know there’s a ton of people who dislike the champs August worked on. But honestly he takes accountability for things and is transparent from what I’ve seen.

    • @tobbcittobbcit8899
      @tobbcittobbcit8899 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Also seems like a chill guy from the little stuff I've seen

    • @Narekz
      @Narekz Před 4 měsíci +2

      August had designed:
      Vi, the Piltover Enforcer - good design
      Jinx, the Loose Cannon - good design
      Gnar, the Missing Link - hard to blance but good
      Ekko, the Boy Who Shattered Time - good design
      Jhin, the Virtuoso - one of the best designs in the game
      Senna, the Redeemer - meh design
      Viego, the Ruined King - okay design
      Zeri, the Spark of Zaun good design
      Bel'Veth, the Empress of the Void - bad design
      Briar, the Restrained Hunger. bad design.

  • @ssfrost1337
    @ssfrost1337 Před 4 měsíci +2

    you should put (and he deserves it) in the title

    • @Ffoo_ffighter
      @Ffoo_ffighter Před 4 měsíci

      Yes, he does. Every game I played recently, stomp or be stomped. They are definitely manipulating you.

  • @Javier-zq4rd
    @Javier-zq4rd Před 4 měsíci

    made me remember when I played lol back at season 4

  • @jaseiwilde
    @jaseiwilde Před 3 měsíci +1

    to be fair phreak was the one that designed the first spectre in dota1 if my memory serves me right

  • @8itesize
    @8itesize Před 3 měsíci +3

    he IS the problem

  • @mozan33r71
    @mozan33r71 Před 4 měsíci +20

    Phreak legit threw teams under the bus. Killed creativity for casuals and castrated macro for pro play.
    Items wack
    Runes boring as shit
    Champ identities gone and skill expression gone
    Now you don't count on moments of brilliance instead it's do your part because you can't carry. Because it's easier to react to the plays than to make one. Making sit back playstyles rule. Pointless fight against toxicity removing crucial communicaton in a fkin TEAM BASES GAME. And 0 accountability for trolls. Making them turn players away.
    Plus we are waiting 13? 14 years? For individual LP awards and punishments and performance based lp climbing.

    • @blazeraz7666
      @blazeraz7666 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Performance based lp is garbage. Playing world of warships in ranked where the losing team 'best player'' saves his 'lp' shows how much of a degenerate playstyle it develops

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Individual LP rewards is legit doodoo, it would only FORCE people into caring about K/D ratios instead of just playing to win

    • @lemonscentedgames3641
      @lemonscentedgames3641 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@kristoffer3000?? All anyone does on my team is go for KDA and highlights?? Not sure where you find ur teammates

    • @mozan33r71
      @mozan33r71 Před 4 měsíci

      @@lemonscentedgames3641 Sniff Sniff. Can you smell it? It smells like fear of accountability haha. @blazer and kristoff are afraid to take it on their shoulders and carry

  • @arntry8072
    @arntry8072 Před 4 měsíci +1

    1:06 should be enough to show why people hate him now.
    Dude isn't fit for a profession full of numbers, especially his massive jump from being a face infront of camera to part of "game dev".
    Good for him for getting what he wants to do BUT his past profession should NOT land him any job game dev wise unless he has connections.
    Current problem can be summarized as "Company hires a 'reporter/host' for game dev". No surprise players would complain after such changes.
    Its like hiring a long time waiter to be a 5 star restaurant chef, diners would obviously complain.

  • @tristan8403
    @tristan8403 Před 4 měsíci +1

    shaclone saying death threats are far is kinda funny

  • @therailgun_8299
    @therailgun_8299 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Good thing I quit this shit game back in season 7. Who knows maybe if they haven't started to fuck around with items before the mythics. Maybe if they just fucking let the ADC items be. Maybe ADCs would be replaced by a fucking Ziggs Karthus and Xerath. Also the most toxic community out there. Shout out to y'all.

    • @InTecknicolour
      @InTecknicolour Před 4 měsíci +1

      people in this game are some of the most entitled and toxic gamers I've ever seen. when their main gets nerfed, they cry. when the meta changes, they cry. when the map changes, they cry.

    • @therailgun_8299
      @therailgun_8299 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@InTecknicolour me personally got burnt out by the ridiculous repetition of every game. I mean it looks exactly the same. 20 minutes of farming proceed by 15 minutes of pointless walking until one dumbass gets caught. One team fight and the game is over. Like xD

  • @dijaysynclaire
    @dijaysynclaire Před 4 měsíci +7

    The Fact this video explicitly says that "as far they know", Phreak wasn't involved with the ping changes, makes me question the credibility of this channel. Phreak was involved with the changes and he has admitted his involvement multiple times.

  • @Lancelot2000Lps
    @Lancelot2000Lps Před 4 měsíci

    Feelings should not be involved in balancing and that is the biggest problem in these controversy too much feelings and those feelings are not good in game and they are harmful out of game. I would hope we can have in the future a pill that stops our feelings for 6 hours.

  • @Voicelet
    @Voicelet Před 4 měsíci +1

    To be fair for the man himself, balancing games this intricate with so many interconnecting parts is not easy, and listening to the player base's demands is an endless endeavor.
    It all boils down to communication. You can't rub your players the wrong way trying to justify the changes with excuses, Phreak, especially when you're already scraping the bottom of the barrel with the LoL fanbase.

  • @chaoxruler6880
    @chaoxruler6880 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Dearest Phreak,
    I hope this finds you well. We seem to have found ourselves in a dire situation with the game balance. Please consider changing career or at least not being the same condescending pos whenever you take criticism .
    Sincerely, Your games fans.

  • @xXG3TPWNEDXx
    @xXG3TPWNEDXx Před 4 měsíci +3

    Yes, Phreak deserves nearly all the backlash he gets. It is indeed his fault. Even if the changes are a collaborative effort, he still owns some responsibility in it. This attempt to shed that responsibility is dishonest. Speaking more on responsibility; he is in control of his own actions, yes? The condescending way he spoke to the community is indeed his fault that he owns solely. With that being said death threats are obviously too far. He is not beyond criticism however. How do you make a video explaining his rise through the company and then absolve him of all responsibility? That is strange to say the least. He may not be completely at fault for all the changes but, he chose on his own to be the face of them. Either he was completely unaware of how this would turn on him or he was aware. Either way it is revealing and speaks volumes. So which is it? Is he completely dumb, unaware, or not responsible at all? It should NOT be surprising when your actions have an impact on a community made of millions of people around the world that you will be held to a higher standard. Phreak stepping away from social media was the right thing to do for all parties involved.

  • @Vitamins225
    @Vitamins225 Před 3 měsíci

    To be honest he will always be remembered as the "Phreakszn: when he announced the dumbest rules to the chat system

  • @bahhhhumbug9804
    @bahhhhumbug9804 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Bruh phreaks reason for nerfing rengar is it doesn't feel good to get one-shot by him but my guy he is a assassin class that is legitimately what they are made to do.