Chalked Cast #15 - Sizz off NRG, OXG Takes EU, Pro's Hosting Tournaments for Psyonix
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- čas přidán 16. 10. 2022
- Rizzo & Johnnyboi chills w/ CJCJ, Sizz, ApparentlyJack, & Archie
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Jacks reference to his accidental Livestream at the beginning had me laughing haha
what accidental livestream?
@@aka5 he was recording an ad for a YT video, he accidentally went live and proceeded to mess up his line several times before realising he was live
@@apk9754 Oh lmao, thanks
Rizzo's cam is giving me 2005 long distance relationship vibes. Another amazing ep with great guests, when massive RL community members are dropping into twitch chat just to watch, you know you are doing something right! Thanks for these Rizzo
Just came down to the comments to ask why he was using a potato for a cam haha.
Sizz is going pro and signing to a team fr he’s the next jstn 😈.
“The next jstn” don’t disrespect sizz the goat
Sizz is garbage
@@lm4790 your moms coochie was garbage
@@lm4790 exactly what I said
@@lm4790 you must be fun at parties
These have been so good lately man, keep it up! I love watching and listening to them
The bidet section was hilarious 🤣
This is one of the best podcasts I've ever watched
The food conversation was pure chaos 😂
Having a live chat during podcasts should be standard.. I can’t tell you how many times I want to comment in podcasts and can’t.. you guys are doing it right
NRG hasn't even released a video or statement on the release of Sizz that's actually insane to me. You can definitely tell how they handle these type of situations.
Archie just going in. You love to see it
I 100% AGREE with Jack. Nrg needs a new player and if they don't wanna accept it the next season opener will for sure change the roster.
You should go see Jstn’s take on it and if it’s true then replacing Sizz was the right thing to do
@@Troublesome_96 where is JSTNs take on it?
@@RapidPants twitch. I think he keeps his videos too
@@RapidPants 😊he said business is business and it was the best move
aight thanks
Just gotta say as an NRG fan who loves all those guys equally it is pretty nice to see them all stick together and makes me excited to watch them every time. Not a fan of kicking a player the second results are not there. I couldn’t be more excited to see if these guys can figure it all out. If they don’t then fine but how could they know if they just split up and grab a new player. Feels like this is a good story line for the game and fan base and makes me even more of a fan than I was before. I fuckin love these guys
Nah L NRG for not communicating well enough with sizz they could’ve talked to him before about coaching but out of the blue they kicked him they did him dirty asf
The results haven’t been there for nearly a year
@@DavidWallz yeah good point with the Sizz stuff. I def can understand that. Guess I mostly became a fan because of the player roster so him being dropped didn’t hit me as hard but seems like one of the cooler dudes in the scene so would have been the best if they could have stuck with him as well
Banger episode
We need retals or ayyjayy on the next one!
To help with bubble teams, Psyonix should create a ranked club queue that can bleed into qualifiers for RLCS.
Have a dedicated three player roster you queue into other rosters for a ranked system. Not sure on other logistics of it, but it would be nice for aspiring pros and casual players.
No
i love apparently jack
On a serious note. Ludwig has offbrand which is a company that helps people organize and produce events and shows and stuff. So you could probably hit him up
Archie is ruthless, lol.
TOP G T OP G TOPG G
you call CJCJ a host but in the description it seems like he's a guest 🤨📸
Wow, this is not the direction I was expecting. Sizz the traveling bidet salesman.
i dont remember where, but ive heard sizz's bidet ramble multiple times lmao. hes so passionate abt them
What are jack and Rizzo laughing at.. looks like they’re trying not to crack up
Everyone in twitch chat was roasting Rizzo for his webcam lol
Yeah shit was pissing me off tryna have a serious ass convo and they’re laughing like kids In the back of the class annoying asf 💀💀
1:20:00 out numbered; food convo. Got me laughing
STL has the best water, tap is like fiji, shoutout anheuser busch for the filtration system
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Dunno why they don't have top 1, 2, 3, 10, 50 and 100 seasonal titles for comp playlists.
They had rewards for top 100 in Seasons 1 and 2, and that was extremely bad, so they removed them
This would be great
the rewards would be shit anyways so who cares especially to top 100 players in the world like what will you reward them
@@vK9SA In-game titles. As the comment says
I love the League of Legends content
I agree that NRG needs to make a roster move in order to make any forward progress and I also understand why it's so hard to feel like you're upgrading when your roster is 3 of the GOATs but I think that a split brings fresh motivation to all involved, new perspective and a different playstyle. When this current roster is peaking they can compete with anyone but they're so up and down and I don't see it changing any time soon. Also Sizz is going to find success with whatever the fuck he chooses to do but it is for sure a sad break up.
not a single one of them is in the goat debate, not even close
@@Venom272X I wasn't meaning GOAT quite as literally as you're taking it mostly just 3 of the most high level, consistent players of all time that are hard to replace.
@@Venom272X I would say they all are
Ad. 1 of 80.
"the one dude who won the fortnite world cup" Bugha lol
A lot of adults don't know about Fortnite. I have never heard of him even after hearing his name
Format I would like to see at LANs:
2 groups of 8. Everyone plays 7 opponents in their groups Bof5 (2 matches Tuesday, 2 matches, Wednesday, 2 Thursday, 1 Friday + any necessary tiebreakers). Top 4 in each group make it out.
Then, you have single elimination bracket all Bof7, however, do NOT make it 1v8,2v7,3v6,4v5 for first round. Make it 5v8 and 6v7 for first round. Winner of 5v8 plays 4. Winner of 6v7 plays 3. Then winner of 5/8v4 plays 1 seed. Winner of 6/7v3 plays 2 seed for Semis. Winners of those 2 play in the Finals.
Reasons to do this:
It gives everyone plenty of chances to play their way through into the bracket and avoids "mickey groups/brackets" by having 7 group stage matches. This format also rewards the winners of each group by giving them a double bye in the bracket and the runners up in each group a single bye. It gives all teams a reason to try their best all the way through the group stage.
It also gives all teams traveling to LANs at least 7 matches. I think it's absurd that in the double elimination format that some teams will fly across the world to only play two Bof5s and that's it.
I understand this format probably does't work for online play in the regionals for the FRI-SUN schedule since that would likely be too many matches to cram in, but for Majors, I think this works very well.
when rocket league convo turns into actual poop talk nahhhh
“Staying at my house 2 weeks ago” that man knew then that you were going and he didn’t say anything and stayed at your place….crazyyy
That was before the first regional…. This was the straw that broke the camels back.
Legit npc
imo, NRG hit the downward spiral when they decided to change their style after losing to bds in the major
At 1:03:30, cj tried so hard to force a certain answer but then kept contradicting or back peddling
I swear, cj's autistic but not the smart kind
37:40 Johnny choose violence
that was really funny but you need the context a bit before
@@r3snaadille Archie said OXG kick-offs are goated and Johnny doubted
@@brokenocci it was actually johnny suggesting that Sizz could be a kickoff coach and Archie disagreed that they are needed in general and yea, he said that their kick-offs are goated.
@@r3snaadille lmao its a meme dude dont go so serious about it
@@brokenocci nah, man, I was just sayin you need to watch the earlier parts of the VOD to appreciate fully how good that Johnny's joke was :D
an idea for the pod: Shift the panel to one side and enlarge chat so we can read it 👍
As an older viewer of this podcast, I would like to see an episode with the parents that we see. BeastMilf, RetalsDad, Joyo's Mom etc. I met a several of the parents at Dreamhack Atlanta a few years back. I would like to hear them discuss (candidly) about how this process has been. Kids becoming businessmen immediately?
bro said beastmilf
1:22:37 👀
this won’t get read but I wish I knew if this actually happened
Not gonna lie, no clue why they haven't added a 1v1 freestyle playlist. Freestylers won't guard each other's shots, so they get what they want. It's a separate playlist so silvers get what they want. It doesn't split the playerbase because the silvers aren't gonna go to the freestyle playlist, and freestylers shouldn't be in the regular playlist at lower mmr.
They could separate the mmr from normal casual mmr and the freestylers will probably self-regulate who wins or maybe just not care since the clips are the real victory anyway.
Bro upload it on google podcast yooo.....
No one ever says they want uk/Australian cuisine lol.
... am I spoiled in the southwest US? Is the food in the rest of the country really that bad? I know the food in LA is quite bad on average, no matter what anyone says, but these guys have all been in a few cities by now.
RLCS is simply not big enough to promote/fund a proper bubble scene. It has to be community driven at the moment, which could still work to put eyes on players that can then be poached by RLCS teams.
The only thing that is going to change that, long term, is putting all effort into RLCS and not dividing resources for bubble teams.
swiss>
1:12:59
Bruh never invite archie to a podcast ever again lol
Ads are horrendous ffs
It's almost 2023 and you're not using an adblocker...
@@jae7044 iOS you prat
@@samspade3203 It's almost 2023 and you're using overpriced Yankee garbage...
Just got to the part Where Jack says the food in Toronto is bad. Lol dude hasn't even left his airbnb clearly XD. Toronto has some of the very best food in the world
Love cj but he seems like he is interviewing the guests and makes the format very rigid instead of a chill conversation
Yup lol he got used to being at the rlcs desk I guess. He'll get the hang of it lol I also love cj
Idk how you define “good” but according to eu pros on this podcast there’s like 2 or 3 good teams in the whole world
That's just Archie pretty much. Jack calls loads of teams really good
Every player in top 16 could beat 99% of players jack beat a ssl with aimbot
@@carterk9681 ..and? I mean ya obviously there’s a big gap between ssl and top tier pro but I’m not sure why that makes anybody below that not good. I’d call good anything above average, and if you’re factoring in casual players then average is probly somewhere around low gold level, but at some point the whole community decided anyone below ssl calling themselves good is a sin
@@Jack51161 but I’m from NA so as soon as Gen G made finals jack was an na pro as far as I’m concerned
Johnny boy - "social credit score is a great idea!"
Psyonix should donate like alpha boost or other rare items for bubble tournament prize pools, it'd be free for them and bubble players would want rare items
Then it won’t be rare anymore🤦♂️ and I don’t even care but it’s horrible for the trade market
i cant think of even a sit down resteraunt that dont offer like steamed broccoli or somthing like that as an alternative to fries, i think british people just dont know how to read a menu lmao
CJ is Australian btw not British he was the one talking about vegetables
@@olliered9924 ik i just didnt want to type scottish, australlian and british, lol
@@bensmith7964 Also btw Scotland is in Britain so when you say British you are including them too :)
From a fans perspective, RLCS needs to just pick a format and stick with it. It's confusing. It's hard to build hype and anticipation when I don't even know the implications of a match because it's just.. different every time.
So do you think they should have the same format every split?
It’s not hard at all, Swiss is just winning 3 games before losing 3 which provides more opportunity for deserving teams to qualify.
Holy moly, finally agreed with something Johnny saidddddddd omggggGGGgGGGg
I truly do not believe that the purpose of freestyling in a lower casual mmr is to feel some sense of superiority. I used to trick shot in COD and there are a lot of similarities here. The biggest being that it appears to be solely about the clips themselves and the standards that the community has set. The community has set these standards for clips and that includes being in an online match and having a defender. In COD they used to have the last man alive setup in order to make it easier for the other team to hit something. You could say they should do it in a private match but that wasn’t what was acceptable at the time. Doing it in a private match invalidated the value of that clip. Setting up was the standard up until people in the community that were highly respected and influential(FaZe)decided that wasn’t how it should be, so setting up died off and was something you could actually be exposed for doing(invalidated the clip). It’s interesting because with setting up the standards became so impossibly high that the fun slowly dried out. That was until it became unacceptable and people started to try and clip on people that were trying their best. My point is that if freestyling is anything like trickshotting(which I believe it is), then playing in low rank casual lobbies is not for some sort of superiority, but rather is a product of a community of individuals who have gradually created such high standards for clips that they are nearly impossible to be hit in ranked(and they aren’t allowed to do them in private match without that clip losing value). Overall, this change may actually cause a major positive shift in the freestyling community where standards become lower as the comp clips become the standard. Just my thoughts on the subject, not a freestyler so correct me if I’m wrong. Also, wrote this on my phone so I’m sorry if it’s not the most logical and easily digestible.
What high standard is a defender that can't defend the freestyle shot unless it's on the ground coming right at them. I would rather new players not be disenfranchised with the game by being clipped on by smurfs before they get to a good standard of play.
@@jaysteveo9632 The standards I’m referring to do not involve player skill at all. In trickshotting it didn’t matter how good the player was that you hit it on, the clip just had to check all the boxes In order to be good and have value. It couldn’t be in private match, it shouldn’t be hit on friends, and it had to be technically impressive. In regards to freestyling, having a defender in net in an online game just checks off boxes for it to be seen as a good clip. Furthermore, it makes complete sense to me that the progression of freestyling would lead to people doing it in lower rank casual lobbies. Since the standards for clips do not involve opponent skill, freestylers logically would go about making it as easy as possible for themselves while still adhering to what’s acceptable. It’s all a different mindset, skill and competition is not a factor in my opinion. However, I totally agree with you that because rocket league is a competitive game, it simply isn’t fair to new players. I just don’t think freestylers are doing it to be malicious or to assert their superiority over others.
Ngl, johnny CONSTANTLY talking over jack is obnoxious as hell. Jack seems too polite to try and keep talking when he does it so instead we get another two minutes of johnny talking nonstop.
Some nuance about the Freestyle thing. If you tank 1000mmr on purpose, yeah get fucked. What I don't understand is everybody saying they should only do it in ranked or private matches... like let a guy live... It should be fine to chill in casual and fuck around and lose some games like when did that become illegal in the eyes of the community?
Also Johnny saying the only reason Freestylers are low rated is because they wanna clip on noobs is the most disgusting slander I've heard so far. Makes you wonder whether he's ever even seen or talked to one before.
Edit: Bruh so painful to listen to somebody's opinion on how Freestyle tournies should be run when the only one they've seen is the one at Worlds smh
Honestly it's the truth, as a diamond player playing casual trying to improve I see so many GC tournament winners just flip reseting running the whole lobby. Has completely killed my motivation to even play the game cause I know I'm just gonna get clipped om everytime I log in by a dude with 7000 hours on rl. Really frustrating psyonixs should actually do something make a game mode for freestyles or something cause the new players from f2p aren't gonna stick around much linger if they haven't quit already like most my f2p friends.
Wtf are you talking about Johnny is speaking facts, psyonix literally showed that freestylers were forfeiting matches to keep their MMR low
@@matthewfriend294 You're correct and do you know how many got banned? That's right, 4 entire people got banned for those exact allegations. And now that some have done that on purpose the entire community is going after Freestylers as a whole. Nobody disagrees that you shouldn't lower your mmr on purpose but the debate has shifted towards whether Freestylers should even be allowed in casual and it has popular people in the community with large followings such as Johnny talk completely out of their ass, bad-mouthing and insulting the character of perfectly fine people. If your honest opinion is that legitimate Freestylers like Faith and Mesko or whoever else is going around clipping on beginners to feel better about themselves then you're just lost.
What I took from the discussion was finding the validity in clips on lower ranks. So tanking MMR is wrong as you say but "accidentally" tanking MMR isn't dissimilar. If all I wanted to do was drive in reverse in casual just for fun but kept losing and eventually I was at a rank I could score driving in reverse, does that make me insane at driving in reverse? Not really. If you want casual to have a none skill based matchmaking I can understand that. Then if it's not for validity what is it for? I can't answer for Johnny but I assume then it must be down to clipping on a human that wants to defend the shot but can't. Sorry for the long reply.
@@siffertime1642 Well I don't see the problem to be honest bc that's what casual is for, not for improving. I don't think those GC tourny winners are doing anything wrong bc they probably hardly play cas and when they do they fuck around, all resulting in the low mmr. On top of that those aren't even freestylers, but I've noticed that ever since Psyonix made their statement on Freestlyers everybody and their mum has come out of the wood works to blame every smurf ever on them.
Johnny is out here keeping the esport down while thinking that he's promoting
Thinks he know economics
Great commentator, but with all due respect, no one's subscribing for his insight on how to run a business/esport
I understand what he's saying though, Psyonix shouldnt always be pushing to help EU and NA more when other regions have potential of being better like ME, OCE and SAM only getting 1 or 2 major spots, even with more funding APAC and SSA could be more competitive
@@BobbyFatt95 funding yes but I think more spots needs to be earned cause at this moment top 5 na/eu just better then 2nd seeds consistently so I think more funding will make players there grind more and get those spots
@@rampage2423 Yea thats fair, but that still wouldnt go to the bubble scene, i do agree there easily could be more tournaments for them so they have a chance of breaking through, just dont think it should always be by psyonix
damn I do not like archie. He tries too hard to be like, unapologetic and blunt. Way overconfident too.
I guess the difference with rocket league is people don't follow orgs like they do in other esports. If people followed for the org in RL then I would say of course the org gets the money from their decals but that's not how RL works. NRG would fall off so quick if they had to get a bubble team or even a under top 8 team
I think that's more because of how little tournaments bubble teams play in. In other esports, lower level teams play in way more tournaments than lower level teams in RL play.
Just found out apparently Jack went to the college I’m going to wtf
No offense to sizz but he was the one to change before the players. No one wants to see them break up so they have to try the 1 other option first
That's the thing. RLCS has been held at a decent city yet. Plus Europeans are scared to walk out side to grab a water down the block. Idk I stay at random hotels all the time and can at least walk to a gas station to grab some drinks. Fortworth was a shit location for food variety. They could of had it in LA but I understand the busy schedule. But even on Uber eats, a lot of actual restaurants are open until 12-2am. You can get lazy dog and the really solid or BJs. At least in LA