Joel & Ellie's Argument - The Last of Us Part I

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  • Joel and Ellie's argument scene in The Last of Us Part 1!
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  • @yadv
    @yadv Před rokem +1312

    Show did this scene pretty well but i think that there’s something about the voice actors that made this scene literally fucking perfect in the game.

    • @michaeldavies9853
      @michaeldavies9853 Před rokem +59

      Yeah it’s too perfect in the game the show did a pretty good job though

    • @mlgslayer9933
      @mlgslayer9933 Před rokem +78

      @@michaeldavies9853 exactly i just finished the episode and i just thought "the game did it better" the show was great but the voice acting here is literally oscar worthy

    • @itzkryptic5693
      @itzkryptic5693 Před rokem +27

      100%, the voice actors in the game are just too good

    • @Cassandra_Solidor
      @Cassandra_Solidor Před rokem +21

      I agree. I think part of it is the softening of Joel in the HBO series lessens the intensity a bit. I do think they did an excellent job recreating this scene, and I really like the new character complexities they've been giving Joel but this is one instance I feel the game just did it better. Granted, I do wonder if they had more time if they could have pulled it off.

    • @k4dow
      @k4dow Před rokem +4

      Litterally every scene yet was better in the game except tess death

  • @danymanyt3604
    @danymanyt3604 Před rokem +786

    I love the way Joel says "you're treading on some might thin ice". He sounds like father talking to her daughter who's in trouble.

    • @CC-zw9ku
      @CC-zw9ku Před rokem +1

      Thanks Captain obvious🤡

    • @amdstersam
      @amdstersam Před rokem +17

      @@CC-zw9ku buddy sorry to break it to ya but that ain’t how to use that

    • @konradlamm9243
      @konradlamm9243 Před rokem

      ​@@CC-zw9ku the clown emoji bullshit makes you look the dumbest motherfucker known to man

    • @rainedropxx4450
      @rainedropxx4450 Před 9 měsíci +13

      Once a dad, always a dad

  • @samuelstensgaard4828
    @samuelstensgaard4828 Před rokem +684

    Everyone talks about the shove or "mighty thin ice" but the way Ellie's voice cracks with the word "scared" is absolutely heartbreaking and a great acting choice from Ashley Johnson. Ellie tries so hard to act strong because she's constantly trying to imitate Joel, but this monologue shows that she's still just a child who desperately craves a parental figure in her life.

    • @wire292
      @wire292 Před rokem +16

      The show just fell flat

    • @camermanful
      @camermanful Před rokem +16

      ​@Wire I know man. I wanted it to be good so bad. But Pedro and Bella just didn't have it. This scene leaves me in tears every fucking time. Fuck I love this game.

    • @nikobellic2008
      @nikobellic2008 Před rokem +8

      Plus I don't like how people dismiss Ellie's pain! they both went through pain, in their own way, and just different ways. It dosen't mean one is less valid then the other!

    • @PhoenixRising166
      @PhoenixRising166 Před rokem +1

      Ashley's and Troy's voices are just unmatchable.

    • @Black-lq2pb
      @Black-lq2pb Před 20 dny

      @@camermanful Best fucking game ever.

  • @alexvega5756
    @alexvega5756 Před rokem +910

    One of the most impactful scenes in video game history, now even better

    • @jordannardolillo5920
      @jordannardolillo5920 Před rokem +4

      I cried . Honest to god

    • @thatonefpsgamer1339
      @thatonefpsgamer1339 Před rokem +12

      @@jordannardolillo5920 ik man I feel you. This is my second favorite game cutscene after Arthurs confession to mother superior

    • @doki1063
      @doki1063 Před 2 měsíci

      1:29 always when this tune starts in these games i get to emotional and wet eyes

  • @pye2574
    @pye2574 Před rokem +1585

    If HBO doesn't get this scene right they have lost everyone

    • @8Aboudi8
      @8Aboudi8 Před rokem +57

      Baby.. they got it in the trailer i saw like few months ago it is in the show

    • @DJZOMBIE_2323
      @DJZOMBIE_2323 Před rokem +91

      @@8Aboudi8 read his comment again slowly and stop at right

    • @spunj
      @spunj Před rokem +35

      @@8Aboudi8 Lil bro Ahmed, he didn't say if it isn't in the show, it's going to be. He said they have to get it right, which is true. This shit sets the tone for the remainder of the game, quite literally.

    • @pojanluiz8152
      @pojanluiz8152 Před rokem +21

      even if hbo doesnt get this right...everyone still can watch this scene which is always perfect...

    • @Leeohlin89
      @Leeohlin89 Před rokem +4

      Exactly.

  • @strawbrrycrybaby
    @strawbrrycrybaby Před rokem +279

    ellie’s “everyone i have cared for has either died or left me” line hits way WAY too close to home for me.

    • @mrfacestab5758
      @mrfacestab5758 Před rokem +4

      She lost Joel, and her girlfriend left her for hunting down Abby for revenge.

    • @jordannardolillo5920
      @jordannardolillo5920 Před rokem +3

      It was improv ed too apparently

    • @imcoolerthanyou2245
      @imcoolerthanyou2245 Před rokem +9

      @@mrfacestab5758 she didn’t even know dina existed here yet, she was referring to her mother, Marlene, and Riley here. And later on, that applies to Joel and, Her girlfriend dina.

    • @MichaelDavis2754
      @MichaelDavis2754 Před 4 měsíci

      "so don't tell me that I'd be better off with someone else because the truth is I'd just be more scared" is the line that relates to me the most

  • @Exc3ssIv3
    @Exc3ssIv3 Před rokem +257

    The animation in the remake is actually insane. There’s so much subtlety in their facial expressions, having that level of fidelity in a video game actually blows my mind.
    3 years from now I’ll be proven wrong, but it legit feels like there are no compromises here.

    • @deancan1678
      @deancan1678 Před rokem +2

      True, you can really tell with Joel and his face expression when he got angry. It's really that specific look.

    • @012248991
      @012248991 Před rokem +1

      You have to watch the mocap for this scene. Basically 1:1. Animators did a terrific job considering they only captured the blocking and body movement for the first game and didn't track the actors' facial expressions.

  • @KevonLovelace
    @KevonLovelace Před rokem +224

    The show did incredibly well, but this IS the scene. The subtleties from Troy and Ashley is what brings this to life. One of, if not, THE best game performances I've ever seen, hands down.

  • @kartikeygupta8427
    @kartikeygupta8427 Před rokem +134

    "Is this really all they had to worry about? Boys? Movies? Deciding which shirt goes with which skirt?" Really puts things in perspective.

  • @Michael019x
    @Michael019x Před rokem +283

    this scene looks so much better in the remake.
    In comparison to the original, this looks so much better. Jesus.

    • @jangozubr
      @jangozubr Před rokem +20

      This scene wouldn't lose anything even if it was a radio play.

  • @joeschmo7834
    @joeschmo7834 Před rokem +155

    Mentioning Sarah was a big moment for Joel. That was probably the first time anyone had mentioned her in 20 years and Joel hadn’t fully came to grips with her death. Only Ellie helped him move on and rediscover his humanity.

  • @ibthat1guy
    @ibthat1guy Před 11 měsíci +66

    I like how at 1:51 you can see the subtle change in Ellie’s face when Joel says “you’re not my daughter”. It’s sad because you can tell that in her mind Ellie fully knows that she can never be as good as Sarah. Even through she knew that, it was more heartbreaking for her to hear Joel say that to her face upfront

    • @jayson6419
      @jayson6419 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Sometimes we all need a little bit of reality check

    • @hoid3424
      @hoid3424 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Also the fact that for at least a split second, you can tell that she thought she got through to him. That maybe he'd apologize and promise to stick with her. And as soon as he says "you're not my daughter" you can see the hope leave her eyes.

  • @DonMateo11
    @DonMateo11 Před rokem +47

    Had to come back to this specific scene after tonight’s episode 🔥

  • @danielaalexandrazamudiogae8470

    What I like about this remake scene is that at the end of his conversation where tommy enters, Joel keeps looking at Ellie, while in the original when tommy arrives he looks away.

    • @user-pn9xp1gz2l
      @user-pn9xp1gz2l Před rokem +1

      I just noticed that too!! Great detail! This remake is amazing

    • @isatherebel1520
      @isatherebel1520 Před 5 měsíci +4

      It was better when Joel looked away though, it was more of a realistic reaction because Tommy had entered abruptly and it seemed like he didn't want him to almost overhear them in an emotional argument

  • @mobileethan245
    @mobileethan245 Před rokem +50

    "Everyone i've ever cared for has either died or left me. Everyone except for you, so don't tell me I'd be better off with someone else because the truth is I would just be more scared."
    man..

  • @sunnywagle8995
    @sunnywagle8995 Před rokem +48

    Ellie: Everyone I have cared for has either died or left me.
    Joel died, Dina left.
    We feel for you Ellie. We feel for you every day.

    • @siva_tech2305
      @siva_tech2305 Před rokem +3

      Plus Jesse died, tommy, and of course she lost JJ

    • @thatonefpsgamer1339
      @thatonefpsgamer1339 Před rokem

      Man like tlous2 is a beautiful nightmare. I mean that in a semi good way

    • @poordude2175
      @poordude2175 Před rokem +1

      @@siva_tech2305 Jesse died and was never brought up again by any of the characters. My man literally got treated like an npc.

    • @rafayg7376
      @rafayg7376 Před rokem +1

      @@poordude2175 bro what? Her and Dina literally named their kid in the end after Jesse. They definitely honoured him. Yeah they didn't have a dialogue for him but I don't think they need to.

    • @heckerskyebound
      @heckerskyebound Před rokem

      @@siva_tech2305 Tommy is alive dude

  • @baseldroid
    @baseldroid Před rokem +50

    Finally i can see ellie's tears more the than the original 💖💖💖😭😭😭

  • @panterarocks9326
    @panterarocks9326 Před 6 měsíci +6

    I watch this scene AT LEAST once a week. And it always makes me emotional. Absolute perfection

    • @doki1063
      @doki1063 Před 2 měsíci

      Always.. wet eyes.. always

  • @francofeyling1856
    @francofeyling1856 Před rokem +31

    I've noticed a difference in this scene between the original version and this remake (besides the obvious ones lol). When Tommy bursts into the room Joel doesn't move, he just looks at Ellie's eyes resolutely, like if there was nothing else around them. On the other hand, the original PS3 version shows how Joel instantly reacts at Tommy's action and looks back at him. It's a little detail but I think it does make a difference wrapping up this emotional scene

  • @medicgaming7555
    @medicgaming7555 Před 3 měsíci +5

    This cutscene almost made me cry and that show this game Is a master piece

    • @Ki77a_WhSpRz
      @Ki77a_WhSpRz Před 2 měsíci +3

      Will always gone down as one of the best. Especially this remake one.. You can truly see the facial expressions in this scene, especially when Ellie started to almost cry

  • @ICommentCuzILike
    @ICommentCuzILike Před rokem +26

    The show did this scene justice I think--almost word-for-word, accounting for in-show circumstances. But despite getting everything right--the words, the acting--somehow Troy Baker and Ashley Johnson's delivery is so emotionally spot-on that even Pedro Pascal and Bella Ramsey couldn't QUITE match up to it. I remember crying in this cut-scene from both their deliveries and the deep understanding of the hurt each character is experiencing; definitely the same feeling in the show, but I don't know... maybe because I was expecting it? Had such high expectations? I was somewhat let down. This version--the in-game version--is and always will be perfection.

    • @rockindocs5716
      @rockindocs5716 Před rokem +5

      Yep. Pedro and Bella have the right emotion in the scene I think. We're just expecting Troy and Ashley and know how good they were so our perception is tainted. Ashley and Troy are 🐐 for us gamers. Non-gamers probably are feeling the scense just as deeply from Bella and Pedro as we do from Ashley and Troy.

  • @d1nae
    @d1nae Před rokem +81

    L for joel ngl... so outta pocket. "you know nothing about loss" the 14 years old girl all alone knows nothing about loss ? joel.

    • @user-qe7bt9dz1l
      @user-qe7bt9dz1l Před rokem +22

      Lmao her entire life from the beginning was loss… Joel seemed to of missed that part!!!

    • @TheKira708
      @TheKira708 Před rokem +30

      Not really an L…Joel’s point obviously means. This man had to watch his daughter *die* in his ARMS. An had to live with that, for the rest of his life. I get it Ellie lost too…however. She never had to *witness* the death of a loved one. An sure you could say well her friend Riley. True but, at this point in time Joel didn’t know that. An no pain is greater for a person losing a child an perhaps even a parent.
      Ellie started it first by pretty much sayin “ I ain’t your daughter, so you don’t gotta feel like you have to take care of me” obviously that would hit a nerve, especially to a parent who lost there kid. Joel wasn’t outta pocket at all. They are both right an both wrong.

    • @omarcogle1965
      @omarcogle1965 Před rokem +8

      @@TheKira708 Don't forget, the worst part about Joel losing his daughter was that it was on his birthday, that'll mess a person up very badly.

    • @bluepower1177
      @bluepower1177 Před rokem +3

      Don’t put something in quotes if you’re somehow going to fuck up the quote. How does one even accomplish that

  • @GuyPerson3
    @GuyPerson3 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Just incredible to me how much harder it is to do video game acting. These actors are strapped in goofy ass tracking suits in a plain ass warehouse providing oscar worthy performances. The big stars in the adaptation could not do it justice with their whole set and costumes. If only they were allowed to actually look at the performance in the game they could have known the standard.

  • @justintallman3398
    @justintallman3398 Před rokem +12

    What blows my mind watching this is that the scene is less than 2 minutes long. Holy crap, this is my favorite scene in the game.

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 Před rokem +26

    HBO version is about an 8/10
    This is an 11/10, the emotional gut punch just lands better here.

  • @itzkryptic5693
    @itzkryptic5693 Před rokem +23

    Joel in the show just doesn’t feel like the same character as his video game counterpart , and this scene from the game just perfectly sums up Joel’s entire character up to this point

    • @fullsendabeerforme2988
      @fullsendabeerforme2988 Před rokem +1

      It's because not only did they re wrote the story and charecters in the show. It aint even the same story anymore

    • @tigrispanthera5496
      @tigrispanthera5496 Před rokem

      @@fullsendabeerforme2988 okay? it’s not that deep

    • @captainkev10
      @captainkev10 Před rokem +4

      @@fullsendabeerforme2988 exactly, they made Joel weak in the series. Similar to what they did to Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi.

  • @lucianoosorio5942
    @lucianoosorio5942 Před rokem +25

    I hope the hbo series doesn’t butcher this scene. This scene is perfect

  • @Bigboibambi
    @Bigboibambi Před rokem +32

    I think the show did this scene brilliantly but theres something about Troy and Ashleys perfomance that just makes me tear up every single time, nothing can beat the emotion and acting from the game.

  • @PrimalElf
    @PrimalElf Před rokem +31

    Remake or not this is one of the greatest scenes in game history

  • @bongoz8160
    @bongoz8160 Před rokem +85

    to be fair joel lost a lot more than ellie did
    he lost his daughter, his belongings, his life, his home, his friends, and he was worried he'd just lose ellie too
    ellie was born into the infection so the loss is less severe
    but ellie sure does learn loss in part 2

    • @thunderbeast.007
      @thunderbeast.007 Před rokem +19

      No you're wrong.. In the game, ellie lost her mother the day when she was born. She did not live a normal life unlike some other girls before the outbreak/pandemic. Ellie grows up in the hands of Marlene and all she did was to go for a military training to be a firefly. She lost her best friend Riley when they were attacked at the mall by runners and both of them got infected but her best friend first to get turned and she was left all alone. Her childhood to be a normal girl was robbed. If you played "Left Behind" you'll understand it. 🐺🐺🐺

    • @bongoz8160
      @bongoz8160 Před rokem +7

      @@thunderbeast.007 losing your mother the day you were born isnt much loss cause you wouldnt even know her or have any memories with her, she was born during the infection meaning the infection was normal living for her, maybe she didnt get to have the normal girl experience but no one born during the infection did, and yes she lost riley but joel lost SO much more than that

    • @gwen.2515
      @gwen.2515 Před rokem +7

      @@bongoz8160 It isn't a competition on who lost more, and don't you think Ellie feels guilty when she found out about her mother being gone because of her?

    • @bongoz8160
      @bongoz8160 Před rokem +4

      @@gwen.2515 sure it isnt, but i've seen arguments of people going "oH mY gOD whY dID JoEL sAY tHaT?" because to be fair compared to him her loss is a lot less severe, and yeah ig she'd be guilty, and yeah she has experienced loss, but loss can very by severity, and joel has lost more which in turn validates his statement at least a little

    • @hedeslightning
      @hedeslightning Před rokem +5

      @@bongoz8160 She was just a kid bruh . I would be traumatised if i was born into a apocalyptic world with zombies and shi . She had no parents and she lost riley too . She literally had no one when she needed someone . You can literally see her breaking up while saying " everyone except you " . Only person who never left her was joel . On the other had joel was a grown up man . He only lost his daughter , still had his brother . Joel was the only person that ellie ever got . Well that was for the first game
      In the second game ellie loses everything . LITERALLY EVERYTHING !! Joel , Dina , Jesse and almost tommy too . Only thing she got left with is the guitar that joel gave her but since she lost her fingers there's no use of that too . She never got to forgive joel properly or watch that movie she planned for . Their relationship was broken until the very end . I would friggin lose my mind if all of these happened to me fr

  • @richiealba5845
    @richiealba5845 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Still makes me tear up to this day

  • @j.henderson526
    @j.henderson526 Před rokem +20

    They did a great job with scene in the show! My only wish from this episode is that they didn't rush the university, but this was well done

  • @nezfromhki
    @nezfromhki Před rokem +28

    I feel like this scene from the show fell a bit flat, but I'm also aware a large part of that is nostalgia. Same with Sarah's death or the car scene with the porn mag. I can always just hear these original line deliveries in my head and it's distracting. It's like the uncanny valley, but with recreations of memorable scenes instead of robots. It looks and sounds very close to the thing it's mimicking, but not quite. The scenes that have so far hit the hardest in the show have been the ones that surprise me, like Bill and Frank's story or Sam telling Ellie that he's infected. Just proves that "just stick to the game" isn't always the right choice.

    • @chrissolace
      @chrissolace Před rokem +3

      True. Especially when the original was literally a masterpiece.

    • @rockindocs5716
      @rockindocs5716 Před rokem +6

      I agree with you. Troy and Ashley can't be beat. I think for people who never played the game, the parts of the show that happen verbatim probably hit better for them than it does for those of us who know these original scenes by heart. Overall I think the show is good and they are coming as close as they can. I think you can tell how much they are putting into it to try and get it right but, again, you just can't top Troy and Ashley's original performances when it comes to scenes like this.

    • @bronsexual123
      @bronsexual123 Před rokem +2

      True. I wish they were less faithfhl to the game cause I cant help comparing it to this. The voice acting paired with the hd animations is impossible to top or even be on par with.

  • @MrBaritone
    @MrBaritone Před rokem +10

    POV: You came here after watching Episode 6.

  • @yagzkarayakaloglu8488
    @yagzkarayakaloglu8488 Před rokem +34

    It's great that the series is so committed to the game, no disrespect to Pedro and Bella but no doubt that the game performance is much better. Still first the car scene and then this were important scenes for me and they both killed it. Engaging in the game is great and excites me.

  • @RockstarGhst
    @RockstarGhst Před 5 měsíci +3

    Can we just have a moment of pity for the bandits that ran in the house with Joel and Tommy side-by-side together they never had a chance.

  • @C33b3310
    @C33b3310 Před rokem +7

    The quality in this upgrade. You can see Ellie's eyes water a bit. So good!

  • @the_ugg3
    @the_ugg3 Před 6 měsíci +3

    This scene is unmatched

  • @GuardIAN4546B
    @GuardIAN4546B Před 3 měsíci +2

    Ff that push from Ellie was improv by Ashley Johnson

  • @r8rs422
    @r8rs422 Před rokem +14

    So I think they did a fairly good job with it in the show, but they messed up two things my view:
    1) They didn't really have the impact of Ellie realizing that Joel was going to pawn her off. She realizes, but it didn't feel the same to me because she doesn't run off. They should have had Joel and Tommy chatting and then someone busts in and says there's an attack on the dam, a firefight, and then Ellie realizes she's being pawned off and steals a horse. Having her not run away meant the dialogue about her not realizing how important she is, she's disappointed in Joel, etc., didn't apply and therefore was cut. Also, there wasn't any tension that she's going to get caught by raiders or infected.
    2) They gave Joel the "physical ailments" excuse. They didn't need to. It gives him a veneer of legitimacy to wanting Tommy to take her. The whole "i'm getting old, i'm having panic attacks, i'm slower" stuff from the episode actually kinda makes sense from a survival standpoint. In the game, Joel is perfectly fine. He just doesn't want to take her. He's damaged as hell and doesn't want the reminder of Sarah, and wants to just continue barely existing in the QZ in Boston. This comes to a head when Ellie calls him on his bullshit "Tommy knows this area better" and then they FINALLY get down to the real shit. To me, that's what made this scene so impactful in the game. Joel is keeping her at a huge distance the whole time, she feels like she's getting under the tough guy exterior, and then she realizes she really hasn't, and that crushes her. And then ultimately, Joel sees how much it crushes her, and it crushes him, and that starts to open him up.
    Again, I'd say they mostly got it. Especially the acting. I think Pedro and Bella have been great. The show has been awesome overall. But this kinda bugged me, mostly because I felt they made a few changes that didn't add much and totally changed the dynamic.

    • @bini6782
      @bini6782 Před rokem +4

      I totally agree with your first point, and I would like to add that I would've fixed this part of the episode by making Ellie try to escape but getting caught before being able to get too distant. It's not the same as having her actually running away in the game, but I believe it would have worked considering the limited runtime of the episode.

    • @r8rs422
      @r8rs422 Před rokem +2

      @@bini6782 yeah good point, having her try to escape and then Joel finds out and confronts her in the room would have served the same purpose.

    • @gho5trun3r68
      @gho5trun3r68 Před rokem +4

      Agreed. The part in the show was fine, but this was just better for all the reasons you gave. I'm not sure if Ellie escaping would have been as necessary considering the time alotted in a show episode, but they could have done something to make the tension more obvious. Joel's weird panic attacks bugged me because yeah his issues aren't anything about his physical health, it's his mental and emotional health.
      This scene was a climax with their relationship and while I think the show did a decent job at it, they changed more than they the after show said they had. The game's will always be better for me.
      Also where the heck is the soundtrack in this show? Feels so quiet and weird without Gustavo Santaolalla's guitar riffs.

    • @r8rs422
      @r8rs422 Před rokem +5

      @@gho5trun3r68 For sure. Also, it kinda bugged me that he just was like "you should have a choice." In the game you have a little more time to process the whole thing. It's not just like, "oh wow they're not going to be together anymore. oh wait, yes they are." I'm sure that's partly an issue of time allotment, but it just felt to me like it made the whole thing just another scene, whereas like you said in the game it's the climax of their relationship and on a shortlist for most important scene in the whole game.

    • @r8rs422
      @r8rs422 Před rokem +3

      Though I have to say, I thought they nailed the acting and the scene before it with Joel and Tommy was incredible. Best acting I've seen from Pedro.

  • @lol2skills
    @lol2skills Před rokem +4

    THIS SCENE MAKES ME TEAR UP EVERY SINGLE TIME!

  • @BatmanHQYT
    @BatmanHQYT Před rokem +7

    The acting in this game is better than a LOT of movies.

  • @highlow5294
    @highlow5294 Před 7 měsíci +2

    That mighty thin ice line is god damn perfect

  • @Sladef_
    @Sladef_ Před rokem +9

    I'm very excited to see this scene in the show!

  • @KingsV1
    @KingsV1 Před rokem +16

    WAY better in the game than the show

  • @thelastchance5892
    @thelastchance5892 Před rokem +12

    The show did alright with this scene. While it was good. This is something that should have been word for word(besides her running away). I find I keep having the same feelings every episode. It feels like they are just rushing through. There's power and strong emotion in each piece here. I also think they missed out at the end of the episode. When Joel gets hurt in the game. Is a very important scene to me. It was the moment where ellie came into her own. She got Joel up. Helped carry him to the horse. Killed the attackers and got him up on the horse. Showed she was capable of keeping both of them alive. While they kind of did it in the show, it really missed the punch it could have had

    • @itzkryptic5693
      @itzkryptic5693 Před rokem +5

      Agreed, it’s very hard not to compare an adaptation of something with the original, and I still believe the game exceeds the show in every aspect

    • @rafayg7376
      @rafayg7376 Před rokem +5

      @@itzkryptic5693 Without a doubt it does. There's people out there that think otherwise and I get that they have their own opinions but those opinions are straight up wrong. Ain't no way in hell will the show ever surpass the game.

    • @fullsendabeerforme2988
      @fullsendabeerforme2988 Před rokem

      It's no point in comparing the show and game. They strayed so far from the game it feels like an entirely different story. Like a fan fiction. The show could have followed the games story picture to picture and got a 10 out of 10 but nope, they are going for at most a 6 out of 10. The special effects can only get a show but so far.

    • @jordonez42
      @jordonez42 Před rokem

      @@fullsendabeerforme2988 if it was EXACTLY like the game why would you feel the need to watch the show lmao. theyre different mediums. youre allowed your preferences, but what you desire is why the vast majority of gaming adaptions suck ass. The fact that the show is a major hit and resonates with so many people who've never picked up a game proves how out of sync gamers like you are with how most people feel

  • @jordannardolillo5920
    @jordannardolillo5920 Před rokem +27

    It’s hard for me to show people this without context and expect them to feel. I genuinely welled up watching this for the first time playing. I showed my fiancée(who watches the show) and she was like uh ok. I’m like dude, I’ve spent 12 hours with these two getting closer and closer, and I thought Joel was gonna take her in and keep her. And Joel just refuses to open up and let her in. It’s a total 180 from what you’re expecting. At this point there’s only a few hours of gameplay left

  • @kevoshow1
    @kevoshow1 Před rokem +9

    This scene better be an exact shot for shot, word for word remake in the tv show. If not, I'm rioting.

  • @LPRpgler25
    @LPRpgler25 Před rokem +1

    Andjelkovic Dennis :
    KATSUU !!!!!
    OTSUTSUKI STYLE
    16.05.2023 16:00

  • @Ay3shizzle
    @Ay3shizzle Před rokem +5

    Who’s here after the show’s version?

  • @TheDeadWillPurg
    @TheDeadWillPurg Před rokem +21

    why does joel look like he is a second away from the grave

    • @d1nae
      @d1nae Před rokem

      well he's like. 60

    • @jadenmcmillan4306
      @jadenmcmillan4306 Před rokem +2

      @@d1nae He's actually 50

    • @bluepower1177
      @bluepower1177 Před rokem

      @@jadenmcmillan4306 true

    • @bluepower1177
      @bluepower1177 Před rokem

      First of all in this world everyone is a second away from the grave, second of all he’s been living in this world for 20 years, and third of all pull your head out of your ass. Are you gonna ask why his watch is broken too??

    • @timestamper9589
      @timestamper9589 Před rokem +8

      I mean, I'm more impressed that he IS the only one looking like that.
      He ain't exaclty young, living in a world wich demands you not to eat right, drink right, sleep right, moving to point A to point B everyday with tons of shit in backpack + multiple heavy ass weapons. All that not counting the stress of living day to day in the apocalypse

  • @mahd1hasan
    @mahd1hasan Před 10 měsíci

    Thank you man i will use this for my edit

  • @frayhound
    @frayhound Před rokem +7

    disappointed how this scene was in the series. Joel establishing Ellie as "cargo" really defeats the purpose of this scene and not having the build up with Sam really takes away from it too and Bella's acting felt a little flat

  • @arvizulegacy2035
    @arvizulegacy2035 Před 9 měsíci +3

    It’s a shame we didn’t get anything like this in the second one 😢

  • @dogtagduke7125
    @dogtagduke7125 Před rokem +13

    WAY better in the game. Damn the raw emotion on display here is palpable. The “mighty thin ice” line is a must have. Too bad the show didn’t include it.

  • @AlexQuill63
    @AlexQuill63 Před rokem +3

    Having now watched both old and new versions of this scene (only just got around to my first playthrough in the past couple of weeks), it's interesting how much more body language there is in the remaster. The way Joel's head rather trembles on "mighty thin ice" and "know what loss is", the way Ashley's voice cracks a little on "scared", there's so much more emotion in this scene than just the words being said.
    I absolutely wanted to whack Joel one here and give Ellie a hug, not gonna lie.

  • @CrazyAsian_303
    @CrazyAsian_303 Před rokem +9

    I'm so excited for part 1 😆😁

  • @that-guy5055
    @that-guy5055 Před rokem +6

    So perfect. I can barely blame HBO for not getting it exactly right.

    • @biancadesousa
      @biancadesousa Před rokem

      Their version was even better

    • @biancadesousa
      @biancadesousa Před rokem

      Their version was even better

    • @KG-ou9pg
      @KG-ou9pg Před rokem +4

      @@biancadesousa i couldn’t disagree more. They did a decent job but this scene is too legendary and feels more emotional to me

    • @Deagnetic
      @Deagnetic Před rokem

      @@KG-ou9pg My problem with this games version (I just played it rn for the first time watching the show) is that it gets interrupted immediately by a 5 min stealth/action section then its resolved by a short cutscene where they ride horses thereafter. The game does this a lot to the point where I dont want the game to be a game after such good character moments because they dont let the audience (me) take it all in / breathe. So to me a lot of these moments from the videogame play out better in live action, both are good, but honestly for this moment I actually perfer the shows, but obv me watching the show first came with that conclusion.

  • @Suffer.FE.17
    @Suffer.FE.17 Před 5 měsíci +1

    After part 2 this scene hits harder than ever because everyone she has ever cared about has died and left her. Everyone including Joel.

  • @eldeberryhamster
    @eldeberryhamster Před měsícem +1

    This is way better than in the show. And the reason is that they have trimmed down the conversation.
    They should not have removed a single word, and also kept that she ran away.

  • @smol...
    @smol... Před rokem +6

    this scene > the tv show

  • @LPRpgler25
    @LPRpgler25 Před měsícem +1

    Andjelkovic Dennis : 0:33 👍👍👍 Bingo i Want this

  • @shanerisk1293
    @shanerisk1293 Před 9 měsíci

    This scene is SOO well done. This and Ellie and Joel's talk in the flashback of TLOU2 are the best cutscenes I have ever seen.

  • @MariusKristensen
    @MariusKristensen Před 5 měsíci +2

    AWW ELLIE

  • @MarsFKA
    @MarsFKA Před rokem +2

    Powerful moment, which they played almost word for word in the TV version.

  • @ClassifiedRanTom
    @ClassifiedRanTom Před rokem +2

    I remember hearing that Ashley Johnson improvised the push during "-cking except for you." And they liked it so much, they included it in the Live Action scene.

  • @joieknox6447
    @joieknox6447 Před 11 měsíci +1

    This scene is just so amazing, the subtle facial expressions with the new animation, the voice cracking and voice changes. Everyone talks about Ellie’s voice cracking but Joel going from being angry and standoffish while arguing to able to cry when he said I got 2 walking in is heartbreaking.

  • @rickyc955
    @rickyc955 Před rokem +2

    Everyone I have cared for, has either die, or left me.

  • @justintugab9837
    @justintugab9837 Před rokem

    everytime i watch this scene i almost tear up

  • @murilooliveirasilva1123
    @murilooliveirasilva1123 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This scene is better than the hbo show.... is fucking crazy how the voice actors really put some emotions in their voices

  • @BatmanHQYT
    @BatmanHQYT Před rokem +7

    This scene was so perfectly written that they copied 90% of it word for word in the show.

  • @Donqixote11
    @Donqixote11 Před 6 měsíci +1

    this scene is always hits me fu**ing hard

  • @randyignacio6956
    @randyignacio6956 Před rokem +1

    Just watched this scene after watching Episode 6 to compare. The feels...

  • @eliasrodriguez5054
    @eliasrodriguez5054 Před rokem +2

    Came here after episode 6... holy shit man...

  • @jasangkal
    @jasangkal Před 2 měsíci +1

    you cant out do this scene.. troy and Ashely did such an amazing job, def one of their most iconic scenes together.

  • @lucianoosorio5942
    @lucianoosorio5942 Před rokem +6

    I've seen this on episode 7 and I gotta say they did well on it but wasn't as good as the original scene. Joel in the series makes it feel he has a straight face while not having too much of an angry reaction and ellie didn't seemed to be too emotional. Just my opinion. In the game,Ellie was so emotional that even the actress was holding her tears in or something.

  • @princeali9129
    @princeali9129 Před rokem +3

    The music in this was much more powerful, should have been in the show

  • @tybracadabra6321
    @tybracadabra6321 Před rokem +8

    I think the show didn’t do this scene well like everyone else said, BUT I feel like we got an even better scene with Joel and Tommy where Joel let’s his emotions out. I think that scene worked way better to bring the audience closer to Joel. In the game you feel close to Joel by default because you ARE him, in the show that’s not a given.

    • @stephenswift9896
      @stephenswift9896 Před rokem +2

      Personally I think it's a bit too on the nose and lacks the subtlety from the game, it changes a decent portion of his character as well as he seems a lot less hardened interiorly and is more transparent making the walls he built up seem weaker than his counterparts.

    • @tybracadabra6321
      @tybracadabra6321 Před rokem

      @@stephenswift9896 true, tho I think that doesn’t necessarily make him a bad character, just not a carbon copy. Which I guess you can consider the time frame that the game came out versus the climate today. It’s definitely WAYY better than the majority of video game cinema

    • @stephenswift9896
      @stephenswift9896 Před rokem +1

      @@tybracadabra6321 Yeah no doubt the show is good for sure.

  • @adriangutierrez8514
    @adriangutierrez8514 Před rokem

    Fuck man. Everytime I see this scene I start to cry. Such a powerful scene.

  • @PHNTM510
    @PHNTM510 Před rokem +11

    Yeah this scene is ps5 like 💓

  • @LPRpgler25
    @LPRpgler25 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Andjelkovic Dennis :
    1:12
    1:20

  • @Chemist-ob9uf
    @Chemist-ob9uf Před 9 měsíci +1

    Fun fact: Both Troy Baker and Ashley Johnson have said that this is their favorite scene from the game.

  • @pindy6109
    @pindy6109 Před rokem +4

    Shame that some folks will only ever see the TV version of this scene. Don't get me wrong, the show has its charm, but it holds nothing to the game when putting them side by side. God damn this game is just fantastic.

    • @Deagnetic
      @Deagnetic Před rokem

      eh im playing the game rn after watching the show for the first time and these scenes play so much better in live action.
      Nothing against the Game VA Motion Capture Actors I liked the live acgtion more of this scene. THen the pacing up to this scene is jarring because of course its a video game. You go from Big Action Scene at the damn, to Chase!, to shootout with more bandits, this scene, this scene doesnt get the chance to get some breathing room for us to process the emotion going on here so more raider stuff, then in like an hour Joel changes his mind fast. This scene is fine in game in the youtube vacuum or if the stealth section at the house was scrapped and we get maybe a day at Jackson to get some breathing room for this moment, but in the game it doesnt and it feels a bit glanced over fast. ALso maybe bias but I honestly prefer Pedro and Bella for this, but then again their actors for a specific medium. All performers are great.

  • @ninopapalia1461
    @ninopapalia1461 Před rokem +8

    Cant wait to see this scene in the show

    • @ryanbrets7695
      @ryanbrets7695 Před rokem

      Bella ramsay won't be able to pull it off.

    • @thesponsorhippo7708
      @thesponsorhippo7708 Před rokem

      @@ryanbrets7695 why

    • @ryanbrets7695
      @ryanbrets7695 Před rokem

      @@thesponsorhippo7708 watch the first trailer.

    • @francismunozcoll4490
      @francismunozcoll4490 Před rokem

      @@ryanbrets7695 wtf is wrong whit you? She's gonna nailed it and im gonna comeback here just to rubbit in your face

  • @xnavigation777
    @xnavigation777 Před rokem +1

    THISSS SCENE IS TOMORROW

  • @nikobellic2008
    @nikobellic2008 Před rokem +2

    Everyoe's comparing them to see who's had it worse, but they missed the point that they both went through pain in their own, different ways. Even if losing a child is worse, their pain is both valid and both different in their own ways!

  • @jhaulortiz
    @jhaulortiz Před rokem +2

    I have desperately been looking for the music playing in this scene, I know it’s basically the main theme but it’s slower and more emotional and I can’t find this specific version anywhere

  • @MADBADBRAD
    @MADBADBRAD Před rokem +2

    Joel has survived this long in the apocalypse and he isn’t afraid to beat down on clickers or bandits. But this scene shows what Joel fears the most… Ellie. Ellie even asked him “What are you do afraid of? I can’t get infected!” Most of us know that Joel is having daughter feelings for Ellie and he’s trying to brush her off to Tommy so he doesn’t crawl even deeper into those feelings. Joel lost one daughter before and he’s doing all he can to avoid that situation from happening again. Amazing performance from Troy Baker and Ashley Johnson!

  • @YungSav16
    @YungSav16 Před rokem

    This made me cry all over again 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @ninaa4192
    @ninaa4192 Před 11 měsíci +2

    The show skipped the best part:
    Tommy's "GeT iT tOgEtHeR. We'rE nOt AlOnE "

  • @Pennys1
    @Pennys1 Před rokem +1

    had to come back after tonight's HBO episode

  • @ajdulani
    @ajdulani Před rokem +1

    After seeing the episode I feel like the Godfather meme:
    "Look How They Massacred My Boy"

  • @pw9600
    @pw9600 Před rokem +13

    Best cutscene in any game ever. Period.
    Goosebumps still after watching it 100 times. HBO also nailed this scene btw

  • @djamesdean4328
    @djamesdean4328 Před dnem

    the thing that people should understand is when you reach this level of perfection leave it as it is , never remake or sequel it or make a show out of it because it will never be enough

  • @chriswilliams2783
    @chriswilliams2783 Před rokem +3

    jesus i wish they woulda just did this scene in the show verbatim.

  • @Nathanct43
    @Nathanct43 Před rokem +2

    What's the name of the soundtrack?

  • @dark7apostle
    @dark7apostle Před rokem +2

    This scene from the game is the only part that broke me.

  • @randomdoot5887
    @randomdoot5887 Před rokem +5

    What's the song playing in the background?

    • @cpt_syphilis
      @cpt_syphilis Před rokem +2

      Finally found it! "All Gone (Reunion)" by none other than the goat Gustavo Santaolalla.

    • @goldenedits5355
      @goldenedits5355 Před rokem +1

      @@cpt_syphilis legend

  • @BattleField3eee
    @BattleField3eee Před rokem

    An oscar winning scene here

  • @shiynnwq
    @shiynnwq Před 22 dny

    the best scene ever