How Jonah: A VeggieTales Movie DOOMED the Series

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  • čas přidán 20. 01. 2023
  • Was this movie really responsible for the dark turn the series took in later years? Yes it is. Let me tell you why.
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  • @mediamementosofficial
    @mediamementosofficial  Před rokem +27

    If you want to see more of the impressions from this video, here you go!
    czcams.com/video/8VZ6q7JBMDQ/video.html

    • @frog8779
      @frog8779 Před rokem +2

      Those impressions were one heck of a wave of nostalgia

    • @thefantasticretroreviewer3941
      @thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Před rokem +3

      You are the best at doing impressions of different VeggieTales characters

  • @LeafRazorStorm
    @LeafRazorStorm Před rokem +620

    It could've just been a 45-minute special. They could've avoided putting all their company stake on a single product, but Mike was just TOO funny and Phil was just TOO ambitious. Such tragedy.

    • @CJBStudios
      @CJBStudios Před rokem +70

      Yeah, even for somebody who grew up watching VeggieTales, it is stil pretty sad that this is where Big Idea met their downfall after almost a full decade at the time.

    • @KaminoKatie
      @KaminoKatie Před rokem +29

      It's essentially a Greek tragedy

    • @AdamSelvig
      @AdamSelvig Před rokem +7

      @@CJBStudios it wasn’t just the movie itself

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 Před rokem +16

      As much of a masterpiece as I think JAVTM is (even by the high standards of the franchise not counting the 2010s thanks to DreamWorks having done so much wrong (with VeggieTales and their late 2010s (2015-2021) animated features), even I gotta admit, these are very valid points to keep a (charming yet) frail company like Big Idea afloat.

    • @WubbaizyShipper1
      @WubbaizyShipper1 Před rokem +18

      I honestly think it's fine at it's length. I think they should have waited until they had enough money.... it's sad to think that my favorite VT episode was essentially the Thomas and the Magic Railroad of VT....

  • @blockmanvideo5635
    @blockmanvideo5635 Před rokem +308

    Something that surprised me in his auto biography was that Phil started seeing the company as a false idol, he acknowledged that he got too ambitious and blames himself for the fall of his ministry.

  • @KaminoKatie
    @KaminoKatie Před rokem +114

    The history of Big Idea is essentially a Greek tragedy

    • @JolteOnWisconsin
      @JolteOnWisconsin Před rokem +5

      Judeo-Christian*

    • @PuffyGeminiVictini
      @PuffyGeminiVictini Před 2 měsíci +1

      *Christian Tragedy, Yea*

    • @MechaLeo
      @MechaLeo Před měsícem +1

      The Bible stories are the significantly less cynical cautionary tales of hubris, but pious or not the ascent of Icarus and Tower of Babel are heralded examples of the human tendency of getting far too high on their horses.

  • @elwoodjacobs4353
    @elwoodjacobs4353 Před rokem +309

    It's a cryin' shame what happened to Big Idea.
    Knowing what I know now about the production history of Jonah, the absolutely horrific state the company was in, & Phil's personal & spirtual struggles during the whole thing makes watching the behind-the-scenes featurettes for Jonah pretty heartbreaking 'cuz even though they appear to be smiley, happy, hopeful, & upbeat on-camera, to quote Larry & Mr. Lunt from the Jonah DVD commentary, "It's all a put-on. It's a sham. It's a fake."
    They're still incredibly nostalgic to watch, but there'll always be a depressing air about them from now on for me.
    With that being said, Jonah is, has been, & will always remain my favorite VeggieTales project of all time. It has a vibe like no other VT episode has.
    It was supposed to be this big epic blockbuster, but instead, it has this cool, unknown, indie, slightly spooky & mysterious aura about it (at least for me), & the music is absolutely _killer._
    It's one of my favorite comfort movies.

    • @G.S.Productions
      @G.S.Productions Před rokem +8

      It was my very first theatrical experience of my entire childhood for me back when this came out.

    • @timothyfinch7295
      @timothyfinch7295 Před rokem +7

      The Digitial Dalies short on the DVD is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

    • @garyjones2561
      @garyjones2561 Před rokem +4

      I know what you mean about the spooky thing. It's been a while since I saw it but I remember how they broke down and got stranded at that arcade diner late at night (already a classic horror trope).
      Even once they got into the story, the pacing was just a little.. *off* throughout the movie. When Jonah would go into that weird all-white dimension - "Jonaahh..." And ofc, Nineveh was creepy. And then the cutoff ending which I can't blame them for since it's straight from the Bible lol. The music number at the end helped take the edge off though. So yeah, it was just a little off.
      Tldr; Fib fro Outer Space was scary, but Jonah was just weird.

    • @Hi-jw7oq
      @Hi-jw7oq Před rokem

      I mean, the dirty secret is basically every production company especially companies like disney and nickeloden. Disney has zero problem taking taxpayer money to help them out and then turning around and ripping everyone off with their products.

    • @mariobabbo3497
      @mariobabbo3497 Před rokem

      Even I loved this movie from my childhood, it is still an acclaimed flop

  • @CaptainSpiffari
    @CaptainSpiffari Před rokem +158

    The third trailer had Mark Elliot, the Disney "and now our feature presentation" announcer on it. Clearly says volumes about their mindset making this film.

    • @jeremykrane4855
      @jeremykrane4855 Před rokem +33

      may that legend rest in peace

    • @SuperNintendoEntertainers
      @SuperNintendoEntertainers Před rokem +8

      It kind of plays into the amount of money they spent making the movie when they straight up get him for a trailer. He must’ve been worth a lot.

    • @MomLAU
      @MomLAU Před rokem +6

      Isn't that the guy who sometimes used to fill in for Casey Kasem?

  • @samuraibunny1758
    @samuraibunny1758 Před rokem +170

    It's funny and tragic how both Jonah and The Powerpuff Girls movie were released in the same year, became Box Office bombs and nearly damaged both of their companies as a result

    • @icecreamhero2375
      @icecreamhero2375 Před rokem +6

      I don't recall Powerpuff girls the movie damaging the company. It broke even.

    • @animezilla4486
      @animezilla4486 Před rokem +13

      @@icecreamhero2375 maybe not but the problem was that the Powerpuff girls movie was little bit too dark

    • @icecreamhero2375
      @icecreamhero2375 Před rokem +15

      @@animezilla4486 No darker than a typical episode of the show. Heck Speed Demon is darker.

    • @klonoafan2012
      @klonoafan2012 Před rokem +30

      @@icecreamhero2375 it did managed to kill off cartoon network future plans to put their animated shows on the big screen and instead made them into direct to TV films

    • @SirArthurTheGreat
      @SirArthurTheGreat Před rokem

      Not nearly

  • @Matt-zu2lu
    @Matt-zu2lu Před rokem +60

    I’m honestly surprised that they were able to make The Pirates Who Don’t Do Anything after Jonah

    • @rommix0
      @rommix0 Před rokem +12

      And it wasn't that good of a movie. Jonah was the better one in comparison.

    • @Harudodo
      @Harudodo Před rokem +9

      The only thing I remember about that movie is that cave full of those fake Cheeto things that almost gave me nightmares

    • @Matt-zu2lu
      @Matt-zu2lu Před rokem +4

      @@Harudodo that scene confused me so much as a kid

    • @silashurd3597
      @silashurd3597 Před rokem +12

      It was a replacement for another project called “the Bob and Larry movie” where it was basically the origin of how Bob and Larry met and how they’re sentient veggies, and the movie was supposed to release on 2005. But the movie was canceled after the Big Idea’s bankruptcy and also animating humans would’ve been hard since there were supposed to be humans. I’d honestly love to see a movie about that. But what we got was a mediocre non-Christian based spin-off

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před rokem +3

      @@silashurd3597 I've heard of that cancelled Bob and Larry movie. Too bad Big Idea's bankruptcy caused that project's cancellation. Oh, what could have been.

  • @LeafRazorStorm
    @LeafRazorStorm Před rokem +200

    I’d actually say the Lyrick lawsuit was Jonah’s fault, too. If Big Idea wasn’t so desperate for Jonah money, they might’ve been more careful around Lyrick and ended their unstable relationship more professionally, instead of jumping ship to Warner Home Video with zero notice and hoping the lack of any real contract with Lyrick will see them through.

    • @thefantasticretroreviewer3941
      @thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Před rokem +12

      Not gonna lie, I didn't even know this happened or even aware of it until now.
      Sometimes Life can be a very crazy thing, huh?

  • @bubbles46853-ep9if
    @bubbles46853-ep9if Před rokem +67

    Holy cow, your Pa Grape is incredible.
    But yes… a sad story. And the way you phrased it made me think of the disasters of Mighty No. 9 and Red Ash.

  • @CinnamonGrrlErin1
    @CinnamonGrrlErin1 Před rokem +134

    That Veggietales Live show looks crazy, I'd love to see a full video on that someday. There's just something really about those types of stage shows that's always fascinated me, probably because they're often linked to the lost media community.
    I can't say I'm surprised by the sale to Dreamworks though, since Prince of Egypt is still one of their masterpieces.

    • @FormalFilmsProductions
      @FormalFilmsProductions Před rokem +7

      I actually went to see the show when it came to my town as a kid. I remember having an absolute blast.

  • @anth636
    @anth636 Před rokem +58

    I remember liking the LarryBoy show as a youngster. Also I find it funny that the soccer moms complaining it looked cheap, I imagine also probably love God’s Not Dead.

    • @KaminoKatie
      @KaminoKatie Před rokem +6

      *Karens

    • @Seth9809
      @Seth9809 Před rokem +4

      LarryBoy was kinda adorable.

    • @therealpisceskid
      @therealpisceskid Před 2 měsíci

      the larry-boy show theme song is forever engrained into my memory so those soccer moms clearly have zero taste when it comes to quality children's television

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga Před rokem +135

    Genuinely sad how such an ambitious and beloved project in the veggie tales franchise would practically be the franchise’s downfall.

    • @thefantasticretroreviewer3941
      @thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Před rokem +5

      It was hard for me to believe it, too

    • @supermariof0521
      @supermariof0521 Před rokem +5

      Same happened when "Thomas and the Magic Railroad" showed up and destroyed "Thomas the Tank Engine '.

    • @ElliottEntertainmentChannel
      @ElliottEntertainmentChannel Před rokem +8

      @@supermariof0521 I believe TATMR gave people the wrong message while Jonah made the franchise fall down because of its production problems.

    • @thefantasticretroreviewer3941
      @thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Před rokem +1

      @@ElliottEntertainmentChannel Really?

    • @ElliottEntertainmentChannel
      @ElliottEntertainmentChannel Před rokem +3

      @@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 TATMR made people believe that Thomas was a kids show and that’s why the film doesn’t really have a place in the Thomas community. However Jonah made VeggieTales fall down because of the film being a “financial failure” and the Lyrick lawsuit.

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga Před rokem +86

    MM: “they’re not exactly the ones I pictured doing good with a Christian market”
    Prince of Egypt :”ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT”

    • @ablunt-headedtreesnake6094
      @ablunt-headedtreesnake6094 Před rokem +9

      Prince is Egypt is a fucking masterpiece. Not religious but easily my top 3 animated movies.
      But I think the reason Prince of Egypt worked while Veggietales lost its identity the second Dreamworks got ahold of it is that Veggietales was an animated ministry that managed to be entertaining enough for atheists to enjoy, despite the religious aspects. Prince of Egypt is an amazing story that happened to include religious aspects.
      Take a second to imagine Prince of Egypt without God, replacing the plagues with an escalating slave revolt. We can debate on whether or not it would be better, but we can all agree it would still be good.
      You would still have a heart wrenching drama about two brothers who used to be thick as thieves being forced to be enemies because one grew and now wants to end a great evil (Let my people go!) and the other can’t escape the pressure put on him by his father even though he’s dead (I will not be the weak link!). You would still have Aaron resenting Moses for not caring about them until he realized he was only a basket ride away from the wrong end of a whip, contrasted by Miriam ready to put the past aside because he’s doing good now. You would still have Moses torn by the added suffering of innocents, particularly children, who had no control over the situation, ending in the death of his own nephew. The list goes on.
      Veggietales without religion would be like Sesame Street without the education. An empty shell.

  • @roberttreacy8271
    @roberttreacy8271 Před rokem +14

    Your impressions of the VeggieTales characters are dead on.

  • @masterseal0418
    @masterseal0418 Před rokem +64

    It really makes me sad, actually. In fact, Phil went too far in hopes of his series becoming a phenomenon, and the entire story of VeggieTales is one of the most depressing things I've ever heard for the medium that is animation. It turned the table on Christian family programs over the years that were DTV; but Phil's dreams backfired and the Lyrick lawsuit happened, as well as his(and Mike's) brainchild taken away from him(them). No seriously, screw the lawsuit! It was the father of an overhated children's mascot like Barney's fault for suing Big Idea, who were struggling through a financial crisis before Lyrick dissolved into HiT(formerly Henson Inc Television until Jim Henson's passing then rebrand)! Still, they should be very very careful, because if you're wary of your surroundings, you'll succeed!

  • @kc_9970
    @kc_9970 Před rokem +46

    As a person that owned the Jonah movie on DVD since my toddler years, I can definitely feel that.

    • @PresbianTier
      @PresbianTier Před rokem +3

      Lol. I owned the Jonah Movie when I was eight on VHS.

  • @windmillmedia7555
    @windmillmedia7555 Před rokem +39

    Kind of odd that both of my childhood franchises, VeggieTales and Thomas, both were wrecked because of their respective movies.

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před rokem +6

      I agree. In fact, I think Thomas and VeggieTales take the exact same track in terms of their histories.

    • @sandy_shark
      @sandy_shark Před rokem +2

      @@danielfoster3642 The same “track” eh?

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před rokem +4

      @@sandy_shark Oh. I meant how both of those franchises were kind of in similar paths. Now, even Thomas is in trouble thanks to that poorly done 2D cartoon.

    • @KaminoKatie
      @KaminoKatie Před rokem +2

      It's like poetry sorta, they ryhme

  • @magnetoonproductions9541
    @magnetoonproductions9541 Před rokem +37

    Cimematic animation is a very expensive and ambitious thing. Jonah should have been reformatted a two part episode. That way, Big Idea could have saved themselves a lot of trouble. Home media is a much easier market than theatrical runs, especially if you don’t have deep pockets like Disney or Dreamworks or Warner Bros. It’s sad to say that Jonah was doomed right from the start, regardless of the movie’s quality.

  • @leewitten4758
    @leewitten4758 Před rokem +39

    This movie is a masterpiece. No no no, there's 2001 a Space Odyssey, All That Jazz (the favorite movie of the former's director). Jonah: a veggie tales movie. This is the hill I am proud to die on. The fact that it bombed is a tragedy, and We have only ourselves to blame. Yes 1-year-old me I hold you personally accountable.
    Edit: props to Phil Vischer for NOT just blaming the easiest answer for his company's downfall, but admitting to his own faults. he's a true Christian Chadlord!

    • @matthewhecht9257
      @matthewhecht9257 Před rokem +3

      I saw it in theaters. We were late and made it just in time to only miss the opening credits.

  • @NAPALMANWITHTHEPLAN
    @NAPALMANWITHTHEPLAN Před rokem +19

    11:30 Those impressions are perfect, they are fantastic

  • @sdastoryteller3381
    @sdastoryteller3381 Před rokem +33

    This was really good. Sad as I think everyone mourns classic Veggietales. Though I think any fan of the series could tell that Jonah really changed everything.

  • @matthewtucker2765
    @matthewtucker2765 Před rokem +32

    I remember liking this movie fine when I was a kid (well, I grew up loving this show, and I still do to this day). The bloopers of this movie always made me laugh hard.
    And you're right, Media Momentos. Looking back on this show as an adult, parts of it still hold up even today! This show is timeless. You can show this series to little kids today, and they'll still have a good time!

    • @animezilla4486
      @animezilla4486 Před rokem +1

      Yeah I like the movie as well I was quite surprised it didn't do that well and you know something I really did like the Netflix version

  • @lou-cidmire3065
    @lou-cidmire3065 Před rokem +11

    What's wild is I was actually crazy for the movie as a kid, I would watch it on repeat. 😆 Would've never guessed it throttled the studio.

  • @camdenspencer-thomas8800
    @camdenspencer-thomas8800 Před rokem +36

    Guys, we gotta save Phil Vischer, Mike Nawrocki and their crews' job back so they can get back to where they were doing. I want VeggieTales to be back to normal.

    • @nyanpirethecat2257
      @nyanpirethecat2257 Před rokem +9

      Too late.

    • @camdenspencer-thomas8800
      @camdenspencer-thomas8800 Před rokem +5

      @@nyanpirethecat2257 What do you mean “too late”?!!! It’s not too late! Not if we think of a plan to get them back to work!

    • @JunaidWolf3
      @JunaidWolf3 Před rokem +9

      @@camdenspencer-thomas8800 they stopped working on veggietales and actually Mike Nawrocki is working on another show which is also about religion

    • @camdenspencer-thomas8800
      @camdenspencer-thomas8800 Před rokem +2

      @@JunaidWolf3 🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭😭I don’t want VeggieTales to get canceled!!!!! WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?!!?!!

    • @JunaidWolf3
      @JunaidWolf3 Před rokem +7

      @@camdenspencer-thomas8800 with the way cgi is now I feel like veggietales should be one of those shows that shouldn’t continue unless Dreamworks decides to make it like how it used to be

  • @CJ-ln5ov
    @CJ-ln5ov Před rokem +8

    Damn, this makes the film’s ending all the more tragic. No, not the musical number, the ending of the actual story. The one where Jonah sits and waits for his reward after all his hard work(?) only to never get it.

  • @Abbimation.
    @Abbimation. Před rokem +26

    Sorry for a bit of spoiled alert, but I watch SaberSpark video and read Phil's book, Me, Myself, and Bob.
    So I pretty much know what happened to Big Idea.
    But I think it's a interesting topic, where a small studio known for their beloved property, takes a gamble on the movie, but many problems ahead before the movie like financial problems, a lawsuit for HIT Entertainment and poor management.
    It reminds me of Fleischer Studios when they make two movies to complete with Disney, but only having similar problems as Big Idea (except for the lawsuit part) and eventually collapse when Paramount brought it.
    So, these movies were ahead of time, and felt not ready for it.
    Which is ashamed that Big Idea Productions wouldn't be as big as Disney as Phil hoped for 20 years, and sell off to Classic Media, then Dreamworks Animation, then NBCUniversal.

  • @borimaster2412
    @borimaster2412 Před rokem +5

    brings a whole new meaning to the phrase, "don't get any Big Ideas"

  • @zacharysiple629
    @zacharysiple629 Před rokem +40

    On the topic of Jonah- our church is doing a sermon series on the minor prophets (as of 1/23/23, we are almost done. Yesterday we did Zephaniah, and we took a break for Advent.)
    On Nov. 13th, we studied Jonah. The week before, I asked my Pastor if he'd make reference to the VeggieTales movie in his sermon. He laughed and said he'd fit it in.
    Just to make sure, I text him the night before and caught up with him before church. He promised to mention it.
    So the sermon began, and Pastor asked: "How many of you, when you think of Jonah, think of a whale or a big fish, because as we read, Jonah was swallowed by a large fish?" Most hands went up.
    Then he finally said: "VeggieTales did a very popular video about Jonah many years ago. How many of you think of VeggieTales when you hear Jonah?"
    I put my hands over my head and clapped really loud. Pastor looked in my direction and he said: "Someone does...alright!" and he continued.
    After church, I went up to him and thanked him for the mention. "I hope my reaction wasn't too much, that was restraint."
    He laughed and said it was okay. :)

  • @zuniroa
    @zuniroa Před rokem +8

    11:45 the other impressions are decent but that Pa Grape one was spot on dude that was excellent

  • @supermariof0521
    @supermariof0521 Před rokem +10

    Another example similar to this movie is "Thomas and the Magic Railroad".

  • @THEANIMEFANZ_
    @THEANIMEFANZ_ Před rokem +17

    From all the interviews I've heard Johna's financial failures did not sit well with Phil both spiritually and financially. (I may be miss remembering) There were fans/critics who didn't like Johna solely because there was no new silly song in the film.

  • @jordandwiggins1026
    @jordandwiggins1026 Před rokem +9

    I like how almost simultaneously I got uploads in my subscriptions talking about how the Jonah movie tanked Veggie Tales and another video about Thomas and the Magic Railroad which practically accomplished the same thing

    • @KaminoKatie
      @KaminoKatie Před rokem +2

      It's like poetry sorta, they rhyme

  • @DONKEYKONG260
    @DONKEYKONG260 Před rokem +4

    Your Pa Grape and Archibald are on point lmao

  • @abrahamcortina6322
    @abrahamcortina6322 Před rokem +6

    Same year as Ice Age, both the only CG movies of that year with similar journeys and animation level

  • @CJBStudios
    @CJBStudios Před rokem +19

    It’s actually pretty funny you’re doing this because LarryBoy Fanatic is also making a video talking about this movie that’s coming out today. And fun fact, this was the very first movie I ever saw in theaters along with my family.

  • @daelen.cclark
    @daelen.cclark Před rokem +8

    I honestly liked some of the stuff that came out after the Jonah movie.
    Tragic what happened to the series, but it’s still chugging along even now.

    • @colewright8416
      @colewright8416 Před 6 měsíci

      The VeggieTales merchandise I have are a great spot on. As of today some of the merchandise in the some mid 2000s and 2010s are terrible.

  • @Deoxys_Used_Mimic
    @Deoxys_Used_Mimic Před rokem +3

    Man, your impressions are really good!
    Especially the Pa Grape one.

  • @VeggieTalesUnofficial
    @VeggieTalesUnofficial Před rokem +68

    I'm curious to see if you're discussing the financial ruin, or if Jonah is responsible for the poor quality of later episodes like 'Sweetpea'.

  • @KevinFinkbeiner
    @KevinFinkbeiner Před rokem +4

    Holy cow, you nailed the Pa Grape impression. 😂😂

  • @eatatjoes6751
    @eatatjoes6751 Před rokem +14

    It's a forgettable tragedy. But Relient K does a great song in it.
    Man, God...wow. The saddest thing is, Phil kind of already was the Walt of Christian media via the form of cult classic status Veggietales had.

  • @P-P-Panda
    @P-P-Panda Před rokem +7

    I’m not Christian anymore but veggietales will always have a special place in my heart it was my favorite part of church watching the movies. It’s a shame they’re pretty much dead now. Those songs will never leave my mind ever and the writing was absolutely hilarious

  • @thefantasticretroreviewer3941

    I still have this film on DVD & VHS

  • @jacksonmonk6525
    @jacksonmonk6525 Před rokem +4

    I saw SabersPark’s review on this too and I felt so bad for Phil

  • @JadenVonBat
    @JadenVonBat Před rokem +9

    I think what might've killed Jonah's chances of larger box office returns was the fact that it was a limited release.

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před rokem +2

      That was something I didn't think about.

    • @JadenVonBat
      @JadenVonBat Před rokem +2

      I bet a Larry Boy movie would've done a little better.

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před rokem

      @@JadenVonBat I personally liked the way they introduced LarryBoy in Dave and the Giant Pickle, because Larry has to wear the superhero costume to make himself think that being a superhero would make him special, only for him to learn and realize that his normal self is more special, but that he can always dress up as a superhero whenever he feels like it.
      As much as I enjoy The Fib from Outer Space and Rumor Weed, I sometimes feel like they should have added another 30 minutes to both of those episodes. Or maybe they should have waited on working on anything LarryBoy related until the right time to make a feature film or TV series was there.

    • @cordyceps7531
      @cordyceps7531 Před rokem +1

      @@JadenVonBat this is what I’ve always been saying. I would’ve much preferred a Larryboy movie to a Bible role play one.

  • @cleverhilarious20
    @cleverhilarious20 Před rokem +12

    So Phil felt like God wanted him to be the next Disney, and he ended up not having a good outcome.

  • @NintegaDario
    @NintegaDario Před rokem +8

    VeggieTales Live is one of my favorite things from Big Idea to happen; I went to the 2002 show and none of the Live Shows following could compare.

  • @jenneacubero1036
    @jenneacubero1036 Před rokem +12

    To be fair, DreamWorks were the ones behind "Joseph" and "Prince of Egypt". And "Sweatpea Beauty" was pretty good (I had the DVD as a kid). That being said, I can see why the fairy tale route wasn't popular with fans. There should've been more Bible takes to balance things out. It'd be interesting to see their take on Habakkuk along with HCA's stories like "Snow Queen" and "Little Mermaid" as Andersen's stories had religious overtones in the first place. They could've even added "Narnia" and "Lord Of The Rings" too.

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před rokem +10

      They actually made Lord of the Rings. It's called "Lord of the Beans."

    • @jenneacubero1036
      @jenneacubero1036 Před rokem +1

      @@danielfoster3642 Awesome!!

    • @cordyceps7531
      @cordyceps7531 Před rokem +1

      Sweatpea Beauty was garbage. The animation was atrocious and the writing was mediocre.

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před rokem

      @@cordyceps7531 I grew out of VeggieTales by that point, so I really can't say for sure.

  • @konatea
    @konatea Před rokem +5

    I think of Jonah as the capstone for many of my favorite episodes, it’s sad to see it was also the start of its decline

    • @thefantasticretroreviewer3941
      @thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Před rokem +2

      I still think its to Far-Fetched for the film to somewhat doom VeggieTales.
      I know he technically already explained why it happened 21 Years ago, but still.

  • @Kittenfox_55
    @Kittenfox_55 Před rokem +4

    I saw the pirates who don't do anything film in theaters.

  • @morris182
    @morris182 Před rokem +10

    Love the music choices!! Veggitales is such a unique show too

  • @WatchMeWatchStuff
    @WatchMeWatchStuff Před rokem +4

    Whoa, those impressions were legit

  • @dannybright8708
    @dannybright8708 Před rokem +3

    This kinda reminds me of how Thomas and the Magic Railroad bombing so hard forced Britt Alcroft to sell the rights to the show

  • @arc8216
    @arc8216 Před rokem +8

    321 Penguins could have been a success if they didnt give the rights to Qubo which was doomed to fail being a saturday morning block in 2007-2008.

    • @cleverhilarious20
      @cleverhilarious20 Před rokem +1

      Qubo was in danger? How?

    • @arc8216
      @arc8216 Před rokem +6

      @@cleverhilarious20 I'm talking about the Saturday morning block they aired the show on NBC. It being a time when saturday morning was pretty much dead in favor of cable kids channels.

    • @kootunesscrewy
      @kootunesscrewy Před rokem +6

      Personally, Big Idea went downhill after 2002.
      Even if they did create The VeggieTales Show, which did get alot of respect from fans, it unfortunately didn't save the company much.

    • @cleverhilarious20
      @cleverhilarious20 Před rokem +1

      @@arc8216Oh. I see.

    • @abrahamcortina6322
      @abrahamcortina6322 Před rokem +2

      321 Penguins should have been a 4Kids show

  • @johnharris6655
    @johnharris6655 Před rokem +4

    The Easter eggs on the DVD are very funny. The French peas trying to illegally video tape the movie is worth the price of the DVD alone.

  • @JonSmithsVoyages
    @JonSmithsVoyages Před rokem +6

    It's certainly a shame because this movie had so much heart and was super entertaining. Great video exploring the unfortunate demise. And your Pa Grape and Archibald voices are spot on!!

  • @Jackiedrewharbringer
    @Jackiedrewharbringer Před rokem +8

    No wonder this movie felt so different. I didn't realize the same people that got hired for it got fired right after

    • @ryanbarth6691
      @ryanbarth6691 Před 2 měsíci

      Neither did I, I was 3 when I had a VHS of this movie and I had no idea about all that

  • @sorenthefilmbrony
    @sorenthefilmbrony Před rokem +7

    Yeesh, at least Treasure Planet and Strange World didn't bankrupt Disney. :/

  • @thefantasticretroreviewer3941

    11:23, Nice VeggieTales Impressions

  • @tarjack6701
    @tarjack6701 Před rokem +2

    your impressions blew my mind. insta-subbed after that, holy cow

  • @NebLleb
    @NebLleb Před rokem +9

    Lemme guess: Too high a risk and a budget.

  • @kenkaneki9176
    @kenkaneki9176 Před rokem +5

    The guy does nearly perfect impressions.... HOW? But back on topic: It's a real shame what happened to Big Idea studios. I heard a few years back in 2020 that they were trying to get the old crew back together and bring veggietales back, there was a teaser for it and all, i wonder what happened to that?

  • @thomaseadbhardmcqueen7511

    It's a major shame that this movie didn't end up doing well. To this day, Jonah is one of my favorite movies of all time, and I have fond memories of watching it. I still go back and listen to the songs from this movie all the time too. I'm not a huge veggietales fan aside from this, but I would have loved for the franchise to keep going instead of going under.

  • @gmg9010
    @gmg9010 Před rokem +9

    Love this movie though I understand it’s the thing that tanked the entire series even on the behind the scenes on the original cd they talk about how they were in debt.

  • @kootunesscrewy
    @kootunesscrewy Před rokem +10

    Even if it ruined the series, at least this was the last good thing from VeggieTales... until the 2019 reboot.

    • @chiebukachibee-zoraedu
      @chiebukachibee-zoraedu Před rokem +1

      hey. There were some episodes that were pretty good, and The Veggietales Show is good return to form as well, while also taking the series in a new direction.

    • @kootunesscrewy
      @kootunesscrewy Před rokem +3

      @@chiebukachibee-zoraedu Lol. I just said until the 2019 reboot (which was The VeggieTales Show).
      That show was a great return. Even if it didn't fix Big Idea much.

    • @chiebukachibee-zoraedu
      @chiebukachibee-zoraedu Před rokem

      @@kootunesscrewy oh, sorry.

    • @looneysprig
      @looneysprig Před rokem +1

      2019 was good, but finding out what happened behind the scenes kinda ruined for me.

  • @Kernfederate
    @Kernfederate Před rokem +4

    Bringing up 3 2 1 Penguins brought back a flood of childhood memories!
    I used to watch Jonah as a kid a ton as well. It was one of the first DVD's I had as a kid, the rest of my childhood movies were VHS tapes 😂

  • @icecreamhero2375
    @icecreamhero2375 Před rokem +7

    At least we got a good movie out of it. I watched it all the time growing up.

  • @rachelsyrup
    @rachelsyrup Před rokem +5

    Okay but 321Penguins and the cartoon Larryboy series were ALSO staples of my childhood: to this DAY you can catch me singing those theme songs 😂

  • @brianblumenreich9026
    @brianblumenreich9026 Před rokem +5

    I had no idea how much of a domino effect JONAH: A VEGGIETALES MOVIE caused once it bombed at the box office!

  • @SonicdaShapeshifter
    @SonicdaShapeshifter Před rokem +5

    The live veggie tales costumes look amazing which is so weird to me, somehow

  • @SuperNintendoEntertainers

    I really liked the art style of the Larry-Boy cartoon, especially because it was mostly designed by Tom Bancroft from Disney.

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před rokem +2

      I agree. The LarryBoy cartoon is definitely an underrated show. Too bad it came out at the wrong possible time.

    • @abrahamcortina6322
      @abrahamcortina6322 Před rokem +4

      LarryBoy the cartoon adventures was VeggieTales's equivelant of Toy Story's Buzz Lightyear of Star Command

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před rokem +2

      @@abrahamcortina6322 I can definitely agree with that.

  • @anthraxmoth
    @anthraxmoth Před rokem +2

    it's so funny that u did impressions of veggietales characters bc the whole vid I was like "am I trippin or does this guy vaguely sound like pa grape"

  • @johncreed9433
    @johncreed9433 Před rokem +4

    Those are some really good voice impressions you got btw.

  • @brennenhenderson7864
    @brennenhenderson7864 Před rokem +3

    I actually liked the Pirates That Don’t Do Anything movie…

  • @TheDerpyBoi
    @TheDerpyBoi Před rokem +4

    At least the first Netflix show isn’t on Netflix anymore!
    EDIT: Both of the shows are gone from Netflix now! Even better!

  • @bengrant9316
    @bengrant9316 Před rokem +2

    These impressions were really good

  • @danandtab7463
    @danandtab7463 Před rokem +2

    I kinda believe that some "art" belongs only on one, maybe two mediums and trying to stray out of those things can potentially fall flat. Veggietales really shined on the small screen. Who is going to the theater, spending the $10 per person, to watch low detail CGI groceries do roleplay? I was a fan of everything before Jonah and I wasn't even interested in Jonah for that reason. Also they were trying to make franchises off of brilliant one-offs like the Pirates who don't do anything, Larryboy, etc. I'm now kinda surprised they didn't try a show about Larry's Lips or the adventures of the USS Apple Pies.

  • @lolwafflz
    @lolwafflz Před rokem +2

    I'd have thought dreamworks would be a good home for veggie tales given their history with Prince of Egypt and Joseph. Guess not

  • @adalaidmarceau3163
    @adalaidmarceau3163 Před rokem +4

    I love veggietales and jonah is my favorite one

  • @h_nt_r
    @h_nt_r Před rokem +2

    Well 8 year old me was very glad that this movie was around. Can't tell you how many times I ended up rewinding that VHS tape haha.

  • @heliomint
    @heliomint Před rokem +3

    Subbed for the on spot veggietales impressions.

  • @whooah
    @whooah Před rokem

    Your impressions were insane!! Your Mr Lunt was on point

  • @GarethMatteson
    @GarethMatteson Před rokem +2

    I’m surprised you didn’t acknowledge the VeggieTales Show - the 2019 revival. I never saw it, but it sounds like it definitely better than the Netflix show.

  • @HylianFox3
    @HylianFox3 Před rokem +2

    What's especially tragic is that VeggieTales was like, the ONE piece of Christian media that didn't totally suck.
    Now it's gone, and we're left with PureShi- I mean PureFlix and their endless stream of garbage and "God's Not Dead" sequels.

  • @TylerMcNamer
    @TylerMcNamer Před rokem +2

    No studio should ever go through with this.

  • @feitphikz
    @feitphikz Před rokem +1

    that pa grape impression later on in the video genuinely scared me. it's so spot-on.....

  • @KSCGGuy14
    @KSCGGuy14 Před rokem +9

    This is a sad but cool video. Thanks for the shoutout at the beginning. With Jonah recently turning 20 years old, I figured the topic discussed here would be fitting to honor the films' anniversary. I think Jonah could’ve been better off as a direct to video feature instead, because Disney was milking out those VHS sequels two decades ago. Personally, Classic Media felt like a worthy studio to run Big Idea following the lawsuit. That was, until Dreamworks bought CM and pretty much doomed VeggieTales for the rest of history. With how Phil and Mike are no longer involved in the franchise, and that the series is most likely never gonna re-capture its former glory, would it make sense for the VeggieTales IP to just retire or be left alone? If Dreamworks or NBC/Universal doesn't know how to run a "Christian" based property, even if it wasn't VeggieTales, then why keep producing more content from there?

  • @DillonMaynard
    @DillonMaynard Před rokem +3

    Making the transition from bible-centric stories to fairy tales as a Christian show is wild

    • @guardiansoulblade2673
      @guardiansoulblade2673 Před rokem +2

      I had lost track of VeggieTales as an adult but I knew something was going on when they turned into a pop culture parody rather than Bible stories.

  • @CheesyLizzy
    @CheesyLizzy Před 7 měsíci +2

    11:19 Holy cow those are really good Veggietales impressions
    But yeah, I miss Phil and Mike :(

  • @KatREEna-ish
    @KatREEna-ish Před rokem +5

    "Dreamworks isn't the best choice to cater to a christian market"
    But what about The Prince of Egypt?

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před rokem +3

      Prince of Egypt was made back when DreamWorks was great. When DreamWorks bought Big Idea, they were already on a huge decline in film quality.

    • @guardiansoulblade2673
      @guardiansoulblade2673 Před rokem +3

      @@danielfoster3642 Prince of Egypt's creators were also very respectful to the source materials and asked religious experts from Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, the result is all three religious groups were pretty happy with the movie. But Islamic countries banned the movie for a while because of their portrayal of prophets' rule.

    • @rommix0
      @rommix0 Před rokem +1

      @@danielfoster3642 back when dreamworks was great? They're still great now. Did you not even see Puss In Boots The Last Wish?

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před rokem +1

      @@rommix0 Yeah. You've got masterpieces like Prince of Egypt, Road to El Dorado, Kung Fu Panda and How to Train Your Dragon. But you've also got duds like SharkTale and The Boss Baby.

    • @rommix0
      @rommix0 Před rokem +1

      @@danielfoster3642 Yeah and Boss Baby was in the 2010s, the nadir era of DreamWorks which is thankfully long gone.

  • @Cheezbuckets
    @Cheezbuckets Před rokem +1

    I’m not sure why this video crossed my home page, but the sight of it slapped me with a memory from middle school. XD There was a project in music class where we got to pick any (appropriate) song we wanted to I guess analyze somehow, I honestly can’t remember what the project exactly was, and I don’t remember what song I chose to do, but I *do* remember one of my friends chose In The Belly Of The Whale from Jonah: A VeggieTales movie. I didn’t watch much VeggieTales as a kid, so I have no idea why that memory is so strongly implanted in my brain. Obviously, I had to look the song up to see if it was what I was thinking about, and lemme tell you, that’s going to be stuck in my head all week while I have an existential crisis over how long ago middle school was. And it’s all your fault for making this video. Thanks. XD

  • @brianblumenreich9026
    @brianblumenreich9026 Před rokem +2

    There was a major dip in quality in VEGGIETALES after JONAH flopped!

  • @CharcoalRabbit
    @CharcoalRabbit Před rokem +6

    This downfall reminds me of Thomas and the Magic Railroad. One movie or passion project that destroys dooms or derails a series.

    • @KaminoKatie
      @KaminoKatie Před rokem +3

      It's like poetry sorta, they ryhme

  • @Sometimeslifeiscrazy
    @Sometimeslifeiscrazy Před rokem +2

    If you watch the movie with the audio commentary on it’s Larry and Mr. Lunt and it’s so amazing.

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před rokem +2

      One of the many reasons to get the DVD. I personally like the outtakes bonus feature.

  • @zombiegamercat777
    @zombiegamercat777 Před rokem +6

    This is sad. I have great childhood memories of these shows. To this day Veggitales and 321 Penguins are 2 of my favorite shows.

  • @Loafdd
    @Loafdd Před rokem +6

    You caught me off guard with the first impression, but you just KEPT GOING. Bravo.

  • @StevenDolce
    @StevenDolce Před rokem +3

    I saw this movie at the Island 16 Cinema de Lux movie theater in Holtsville, NY back in 2002.

  • @Jstudios100
    @Jstudios100 Před rokem +3

    That Netflix thing was a fever dream.

  • @meltryllis6239
    @meltryllis6239 Před rokem +2

    Those veggietales impressions are God tier

  • @bryceallen
    @bryceallen Před rokem +1

    A lot of those impressions were fantastic!