How to Connect the Montage to the MPC One
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- čas přidán 19. 02. 2021
- Using the Yamaha Montage and the Akai MPC One together creates a powerful hardware setup. How exactly do you do this? Take a look at this video.
Link for full demo of using the MPC One sequencer with the Yamaha Montage:
• Yamaha Montage and MPC...
AWESOME Darrick!! Exactly the information I had been trying to find!! This video is much needed and much appreciated.. Thank you!!
Thank you for watching!
You Legend. Been searching the internet for ages for help with this. 👍 you the man..
Helped alot, tempo in sync. For anyone with missing sound go to the audio track and turn from off to in.
Thanks for the video, very helpful indeed., I’ve just brought an Akai MPC Live II and never even thought I could use it this was with my Montage 7 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 subbed
Hey brother, I'm very grateful 4 cats like U, extremely informative, and knowledgeable about the stuff I'm getting, haven't quite made up my mind on which mpc 👁️ want, between the live 2 retro or the one, but your videos are awesome and really helping me choose the right one 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🎸🎵🔥
The Live 2 is a beast hardware wise. Having more outputs is something I could use live for sure. However internally they are essentially the same. The Live has more sounds onboard though. But every sound in the Live is available for the MPC One. And I love the form factor of the One. More buttons, smaller footprint etc. Bluetooth in my experience introduces latency. Great for listening but not for creating music. If you plan on making beats in the park, feel outlets are a hassle, need additional outputs, usb ports etc then the Live is the way to go. If you don't need those things much of its capability will go unused. So the One would be the way to go.
Hey Darrick thank you so much for this informative video. This is an invaluable addition to your previous video. I based my MPC One purchase on your video and I’m very pleased with the results. You’re a class guy to share your experience.
Thank you so much, I'm glad I could help truly!
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Excellent video! Very helpful and informative! Thanks a lot!
Thanks for this I have a korg nautilus and thinking of getting Mpc one I should imagine the set up is nearly the same thank you.
Using a 20 port usb hub with my MPC and love it. Makes life so much easier. Not being restricted to 16 midi channels is a game changer. Virtual ports are amazing. MPC + a Modx / Montage is a killer combo
Indeed it is
Great work Mr. Keels. You have a excellent grasp of both devices. I wonder how the MPC One would work with the Alesis Multi Strike Pad?
Cool bro.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I searched and searched for this!
Glad that I could help!
@@darrickkeels6387 sorry I spoke to soon. I have the mpcx so I'm searching to see how it's different. Because I'm not seeing the modx show up
Hi Darrick. Thanks for your clear explanations. I undertand that you use Ableton Live too. I should really welcome a video on how to set up the Ableton and MODX to work in a similar way. I'm sure it's possible but I just can't seem to get the settings right. Cheers.
Great Video Darrick....Finally a video showing a current model synth. So i could hook all 4 of my current boards through a USB Hub with all same settings ?
Yes
Thank you for a helpful video. Been wanting to buy one so that I can play along side with my modx. I know that modx can be used as an audio interface so have you ever test streaming directly audio into the mpc one because I dont want to limit myself with only 8 channel of modx and also I want to ultilize more power of mpc one cuz it is so powerful.
Learning more and more with every video of yours I watch. Seems like the MPC One for live would be simpler setup than a DAW based system. Besides covering for a missing musician also make easy adjusting group size and price for customers on a budget. Any advantage or ease of operation versus the other workstation out there.
Yes I really like it. I wish my workstations were as intuitive and powerful in the sequencer department. If the MPC One had the plethora of sounds available for it like the Roland Fantom, Korg Kronos or the Kurzweil offerings it would quite possible be the most powerful workstation on the market.
Better edit it on the pc (cubase etc.)
Not possible are the complains i read..
Hello. Great work! A few questions. When you recorded your arp in to the mpc, was the arp hold function set to on, and then set to off for playback purposes? Also, I tend to have arp sync issues when syncing to ext sequencers; like the arp playing behind the beat a little and even eventually falling off tempo sometimes. Would you recommend anything. I'm using an MPC Live MKii and the MODX. Thanks!
Hi from France Darrick,
I hesitate between the MPC ONE and Korg Nautilus only for the recording and sequencing capabilities. I am not a "Beat maker", but rather a composer of jazzy style, funki, and also orchestral music (Logic and orchestral libraries) .
I have an RD 2000, Korg Wavestate, Yamaha EX5 and a MODX.
I'd like to make everyone work together and do without the Mac.
Does the MPC One support a lot of midi tracks without saturation. I saw in your videos that a sequence could contain up to 128 midi tracks, that seems too good to be true without a bug?... But that's better than 16 on a regular workstation.
The choice is difficult.
A big thank you for your work and your very clear explanations, you have talent.
take care of yourself
Patrick
Just love watching your videos just because they are great. 😁
I just want to know, the click from the Montage sounds slightly behind the music, or is it because you are recording for the video? I am just thinking that it might be a problem.
It's slightly behind because I didn't take the time to fix the music. The drums aren't on the grid like they should be lol! Most of my "real" music would cause a copyright strike.
@@darrickkeels6387 Sounds good to me! I almost thought whoever you are sending the click to has to do some mental rhythm gymnastics to compensate lol.
Can you tell how to make midi files which contains the MBS and LBS (which can select sounds when we play the midi file).
Hello, this is awesome! I’m trying to connect my Montage to my Akai MPCX this way. I’m having trouble. Any possibility of a virtual consult? I will pay.🤞🏾🙏🏾
Thanks for the video! You are subbed. Does your mix output from the MPC or the Montage?
Thank you! The Montage.
can you make a video detailing how to work with MPC tracks and montage/MODX performances with multiple parts? It seemed like it was trying to say you can either sum all the parts to one MPC channel or have every part on a separate channel. Is there any middle ground?
Thanks for this Video. IOt's very usezful to understand how you plug MPC to your keyboard. I have just a little question : Do you do plug them the same way when you want to record and create your own music at home ?
Sometimes I do. It all depends on the end goal really.
I followed your steps, however, when I play the sustain stays on and I can’t get it to stop with my sustain pedal. Using the MODX with MPC One.
Got the same setup the montage and mpc one but I’m not getting any sound could you help me please mr Darrick
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Great video! I have a moxf and I'm trying to do the same thing. I followed your steps but I'm not hearing any sound. Could you please help? I've been trying to figure this out for months 😭
No sound when I hit the pads either
So you can use the MPC as a external seqencer to produce your songs?
Yes indeed!
If used with a MODX, I assume you could add an audio click track into the MPC One’s song and send that to the drummer? Thus making up for the MODX having only a stereo out.
Yes you can
Hello. Good film. Question. How do you set the mpc 1 to record the montage instruments on different tracks. I have a roland fa06 and everytime I have one idea down and Im ready to move to another sound, when I arm the mp, it defaults the first recording to an init instrument. Something i have to disable. Global?
Thank you for watching! Have you set your track's MIDI channel on the MPC One?
@@darrickkeels6387 yes. But what if the instrument is #567 being recorded to track 1. I will try again though.
Any idea why as soon as I connect my MPC1 to my MODX the sustain is stuck on?
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I’m late to the party lol….I didn’t even know that this could be done! So simple n easy w/just 1 usb-midi cable! 😱 Coming from the 5-pin MIDI era! Makes me now wanna do this w/the Motif ES & Korg Krome > MPC One! 😆
can you also use the montage to play notes to the mpc while recording midi data to the mpc sequencer?
Yes
@@darrickkeels6387 using the settings you gave? Thanks great. You just saved me hours of being on the phone with customer service lol
Is it possible to produce a studio quality beat with this setup
Yes
Is there an advantage of that setup (MPC + Montage) compared to just sequencing on the MODX/Montage (with pattern/scenes) in a studio/recording use case? Really would appreciate an answer. Cheers
Yes there are several advantages. The first major one is the MPC allows you to edit your MIDI data via a piano roll. There is no way to edit your notes with the Montage/MODX. If you make a mistake you have to do another take. One major reason why people use MIDI instead of audio when recording is because you can make such edits. Well you can't with the Yamaha. The MPC gives you 128-tracks vs 16 in the Yamaha. So I could use one drum kit from the Montage but record it using several different tracks. The snare,kick, cymbals, tambourine, shaker etc can all be assigned their own tracks without the fear of running out of tracks. The MPC lets me incorporate audio into my workflow. I can trigger audio samples of any kind i.e vocals, bass lines played on a real bass, etc. These can play simultaneously alongside the Montage. I can take advantage of all of the sounds in the MPC. I can finalize my tracks by converting everything to audio and save it on a hard drive, flash drive, SD card etc using the MPC as well. So that I can take tracks with me without needing to have the keyboard present. Once converted to audio I can take advantage of the MPC's effects architecture. The limitations of only having two insert effects, and two masters is a limitation of the Montage but not the MPC. The Yamaha limits you to 256 bar loops. The MPC allows linear recording up to 999 measures. The MPC has multiple levels of undo/redo vs one in the Yamaha. Originally MPC stood for "MIDI Production Center." It now means Music Production Center. In short, the MPC is a full-featured sequencer and sampler. The Montage is a synthesizer with great sounds. The sequencer in the Montage was an afterthought only implemented because people complained about the lack of one. But Yamaha did not implement a full sequencer inside just a quick "scratch pad." It's good for getting musical ideas down quickly. But if you want in depth music production it's simply not the right tool to use alone.
@@darrickkeels6387 Thank you very much!!! Really appreciate you taking the time to answer my question. Exactly what I was looking for. This sort of in-depth information is hard to come by - before actually buying the involved products. Often you buy an instrument and then realize you can't do what you originally set out to do or only in a very different manner. On a sidenote - I remember, the sequencer of the Motif was pretty powerful, though.
Hi, I have a question, Are you using any Trs cables connecting from the output of the montage to the input of the mpc? Or is the the mpc receiving audio from the montage via usb? Thanks
No. In this setup it is just a USB connection. The outputs of the Montage are connected to a mixer. The MPC is sending MIDI signals to the Montage.
@@darrickkeels6387 Thanks for the quick reply :) - lastly, I mostly want to know because- with the montage you can connect it to your computer and it can send audio and midi via USB at the same time without needing any trs cables. I was wondering would I be able to do the same thing with the montage to mpc using only USB? Thanks
@@BrienTodio No because the MPC is not capable of transmitting or receiving audio via USB.
What piano is this?
How do I sync korg kronos2 that way
Do you run into polyphony issue with running so much out of the Montage?
No I don't. I have to be smart with my sound selections. I use single part sounds when sequencing. If I were using piano sounds made of 4 parts then yes I would have issues. Also the pad sounds and guitar are from the FMX engine not the AWM2 sound engine. So using sounds from separate engines really helps as well.
@@darrickkeels6387 and your set up usually is just strictly the Montage and MCP? That’s cool, I’ve recently noticed a bit of people moving away from the DAWs to a DAWless setting for live. I wonder if that’s the next thing to come?
Instead of recording midi can you record audio into mpc so you don’t have to route anything into your mpc if I’m making sense
Yes, you can record audio into the MPC. But you would have to connect 1/4" patch cables into the inputs on the MPC. The MPC can not transmit or receive audio via USB.
Can you please do a video sharing how to convert the MIDI to audio please cause I just bought the expensive montage and looking forward to buying Mpc one exact setup as yourself
Hate to ask a lot of questions but the MIDI from the montage can you convert those sounds to be audio and actually use the sounds from the montage because that’s my plan use montage sounds put drums on it from the mpc and export it all out because I don’t like vsts,pc crashing just hardware please answer
Is the audio routed through USB too?
No, unfortunately not
Darrick Keels
hi. I have a Yamaha PSR-SX 900 . Will it work in conjunction with Akai MPС Оne ? What do you think ?
It will work if the PSR-SX 900 has some sort of a "multitimbral" mode. This means it has to be able to set up various instruments to on different midi channels. If you can put a piano on MIDI channel one, a sax on channel 2, and a bass on 3 it will work. If not, it won't.
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thank you for your answer.
@@darrickkeels6387
The PSR-SX 900 has a midi USB and a normal MIDI input and output. I think that this will allow to work on a channel-by-channel basis. Isn't that right ?
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I like your idea of combining synth and MPC. Record music using hardware rather than a computer program. In addition, a good computer is undoubtedly more expensive than an MPC.
@@user-by9yg4ph8w Yup it is less expensive for sure and in my opinion more reliable long term.
Can this be also used for the MODX plus?
yes
Hi all & Derrick - I have followed all your steps (1 USB cable connection) and... no sound from Yamaha in Akai. I have AKAI FORCE and Yamaha MODX6, please help, anyone..
Once local control and direct monitor are turned off you won't hear any sounds from the modx. I use these settings so I can control FL Studio and vsts.
Could try setting audio record on daw or turning the local control and direct monitor on and see if you get sound?
Use good TRS cables from the MODX output into the Force Line ins
I REALLY need to talk with you. I will pay you for your time. I own an MPC X and a Montage 8. My goal is to be able to play the keys on the Montage while recording midi notes in the MPC X. Is that possible? If so a video on that would be priceless for me right now
i own the mpc x as well and its hard to find help. i just purchased the modx8 and am looking to find help as wsell
MIDI connection to the keyboard. Set up the keyboard as a controller and the MPC as master. What problems are you having specifically? For the MODX, the settings are the similar to the Montage. The response was late and I hope you got it working.
@@matthewgaines10 the problem i have is switfching tracks ,if i switch the modx onlky plays one track at a time using the mpc
@@matthewgaines10 I have the exact same setup but I’m not getting any sound using usb montage outputs connected to Mpc inputs main left and right connected directly to speakers still no sound
@@jessieharris3915 Hope you figured it out, but theres a setting in the montage that lets you sum all the parts to either one track or u can have each part correspond to one mpc track. Im not sure if u can have multiple parts going to one track or not if you have it set to part per track.
How would I connect my mox8 to my mpc1 to get synths from my keyboard
It works just like the Montage.
@@darrickkeels6387 alright friend! I’ll keep trying
@@darrickkeels6387 when I connect the usb it just lets me use my synth as a midi keyboard and plays the stock sounds from the mpc
@@darrickkeels6387 I don’t have any midi/sync option in preferences? Ugh I’m so stressed about it lol
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Sounds like your MPC is set up to use the keyboard as an audio interface. Turn that off and try to replicate Darrick's settings as much as possible and you should get sounds from the keyboard.
Hello. Can you give me a one on one coaching? I happily pay you for an hour of tour time.
Sure! What would you like coaching on?
@@darrickkeels6387 I own a mpc live and a MODX 6. I need coaching on midi setup and workflow. I’ve watched your videos but I’m missing something. Some live coaching would help.
@@darrickkeels6387 czcams.com/video/mCfnmXO45Mk/video.html here’s a video on my midi issues
@@darrickkeels6387 I will pay you as well, I need to figure this out ASAP
@@darrickkeels6387 I need coaching on how to add a second sound from the MODX into the sequence. I also need coaching on how to save the audio from the midi. Every time I save and try to create a mp3 the midi sounds are muted from the mp3. If you can coach to these issues. Let me know how we can link up. I have access to zoom and google hangouts.
Soooo according to this video 👉🏾 czcams.com/video/SmT4omSHBQo/video.html it’s not as easy as it seems. I thought it was just “plug n play” you gotta do all these multiple steps. If that’s the case, then using old school 5-pin midi is quicker & easier. 🤔
It really is plug and play. Plug your keyboard in and select the keyboard in the menu of the MPC One. But I was setting up clock sync settings, setting up a separate metronome track, ensuring the arpeggiator settings would record properly with the MPC One...yeah those things take more setup. It would be the same process to set up those things using the 5-pin MIDI as well
@@darrickkeels6387 Gotcha 👌🏾
I still for the life of me do not understand why Yamaha shot itself in the foot by not including a real sequencer in Montage. I do not want to carry around a computer in order to be able to make music.
This is because most professional producers use DAWs for producing. And majority of them no longer use traditional workstations in their workflow. So Yamaha made the decision to produce a powerful synth that works better in conjunction with DAWs and a more modern setup. The majority of their business comes from live performers nowadays. From a business perspective, those who are used to recording everything on a hardware sequencer or Workstation are aging. I remember watching my uncle program his Korg M1 in 1988. My uncle is now in his mid-sixties. Yamaha (and others) must consider the needs and workflows of a younger generation (younger than me) if they want to still be relevant 20 years from now. So many analog synth manufacturers went out of business because they failed to innovate and produce digital equipment when it was the "new" thing all the young people were in to. They saw it as a fad. It wasn't. And powerful digital gear was more affordable and offered so much more flexibility and capabilities than the only analog gear did. Hmmm...sounds familiar. Sounds like modern day DAWs and plugins. More flexibility, capabilities and affordability.
@@darrickkeels6387 Again, for my needs, and for following the inspiration where it would take me, I do not want - and cannot be tethered - to a computer. An "instrument," by definition, is *one* thing, with which I am able to do what I want. For me, that is a workstation. And Roland understood that, which is why, four years or so after the Montage, they came out with a Fantom that has one of the most transparent and usable sequencer on board of all synths on the market.
And I am telling Yamaha, as a user and potential client, that the lack of that feature is THE major thing stopping me from choosing Montage. Whether or not they care, that is a different story - but the later introduction of sequencer-simulacra with the Montage updates showed that they have heard this over, and over again.
Fantom showed the way, as far as I am concerned.