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Star Trek: TNG Review - 7x10 Inheritance | Reverse Angle
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- čas přidán 29. 01. 2023
- Data finds out he has a mom, and she's got a ton of embarrassing stories to tell.
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Koeppel, Dan, and René Echevarria. “Inheritance.” Star Trek: The Next Generation, created by Gene Roddenberry, Season 7, Episode 10, Paramount Television, CBS, 1993.
Amenábar, Alejandro, director. The Others. Warner Sogefilms, StudioCanal, 2001.
Lost created by Jeffrey Lieber, J. J. Abrams, and Damon Lindelof.
Whale, James, director. Frankenstein. Universal Pictures, 1931.
Drops right when the coffee is ready. Thank you, gentlemen.
Riker being jealous is like me being jealous of my own wife's "massager"...It's just a machine and it can't play the trombone as well as I...
A recurring theme throughout TNG is that Data does have emotions, or at least something like them, but his programming is too simple to understand them or express them outwardly (or maybe they were intentionally gimped after Lore). It goes back to at least season 2 with Pulaski commenting on his bruised ego.
Thinking back on this episode, I had the same basic questions you two had especially how she was never outed by the seemingly ubiquitous scans that happen on the show, but Data's reaction to her felt odd. It would be too emotionally out of character if he was overjoyed at the discovery she existed but I was never sure if he was behaving logically or reacting OTT emotional in trying to Corroborate her validity. It felt off to me somehow.
Also thanks for pointing out the utter irony of the " child Of parents with loving hearts" statement in the face of all she said about Lore. That bothered the hell out of me.
Anyhow I'm visiting my mother today so I will remember to check her blinking, viola skills and scalp flap just in case she's a romulan spy. Cheers
Because Soon created an android that can fool those scans; and even age?
9:46 Has anyone mentioned the fact that Dr. Soong made this hologram after Juliana left him, which means he must have stuck it in her head at some point after that.
Maybe he wirelessly rewrote the chip after she left, and it’s just one of those ‘just in case’ chips he puts in his robots.
Soong was a lot more evil than he gets credit for.😊
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As she left, Data made the most human decision of his life by allowing her to believe she is human and imparting her with loving words his father never expressed to her. Troi was the only one who gave Data good advice. Loved your snark.
It just hit me in the scene with dr. Sung, that Brent Spiner looks like Jonathan Pryce (the High Sparrow from Game of Thrones, Terry Gilliam's Brazil, etc). Well, with more hair than mr. Pryce.
We know more about a robot's family than anyone else's.
Love the intros and the music
Yeah, oBrosnan. The many reasons I like these bros.
I have always wondered how he got the chip in her head saying she left him…after she left him….
Interestingly the transporter changed her shoes from heels to flats.
Answer me a question: Data says that if he tells Dr. Tainor that she is an android, then he will no longer be alone in the universe. This was after he killed off Lore, but as long as Data knows that Dr. Tainor is an android and doesn't tell her, does it matter if she knows it? As long as he knows that she is an android, then he knows he is not alone in the universe.
I think the mention of a “Gexuality subroutine” more meant dating/relationships as a whole and how mothers can have embarrassing, sometimes weirdly prideful reactions to finding out their kids are seeing someone. Though your interpretation is funnier, Data just prowling the corridors for receptive shipmates every night 😂 leaning against doorways, doing sleazy leers, adding the trademark Brent Spiner eyebrow bounces… 🦎
Oh and centuries is, to be fair, at least sufficient time to both research longer term solutions (like filling the planet’s core with overly microwaved pizza pockets) and start planning an orderly, thorough evacuation in case that research doesn’t pan out.
This is one of those episodes that makes you wonder what the show would've been like if you could have continuity from one episode to the next, less beholden to the needs of syndication. But I guess you'd basically get DS9.
DS9-style TNG would have been amazing. We could actually follow up on assorted plot threads that get completely dropped -- Do Worf and that kid whose mother died hang out and drink prune juice on Thursday evenings? Is Guinan still traumatised from listening to fake-Mark Twain's screachy voice? Does Data have fond memories of getting jiggy with Tasha? TF even happened to Vash? Kyle Riker ...? Spock's work on Romulus? I literally don't care, but I bet somebody wants to know if Pulaski is still a grumpy, joyless PITA technophobe? Um, anyone remember Barclay? What about Red Shirt 465 who *didn't* die tragically / meaninglessly? How's Leah Brahms -- do she and Geordi send holographic postcards or whatever?
s/screachy/screechy/
Picard just wants to get this episode over with,... oh my.
I had to go back 2 minutes because I was laughing to much to pay attention,
that was great.
Checked on my parents: They're just the boring geckos that I always thought they were. Would've been cool if I had at least one robot-lizard parent.
16:14 ..parents are robots that treat you as human, despite knowing you're not.
Evidently you missed the awesome porn movie from the 90s…. Deanna does Data!
I'm glad someone else said it!
The one where Picard was pretty convincing and the story was decent, so without the porn it's good anyway.
Yeah! 😋🖖
It would have been awesome if there could have been a fight between Riker and Data over their new "relationship". There could have been some kind of spat during Poker Night in which Data accidentally kills Riker. Then Picard in all of his wisdom makes Data promise that he'll never do it again, and Picard begins to fudge the records in order to maintain Data's supposed innocence. Since only Jordi, Whorf and Diana are present everyone would be sworn to secrecy and then they take the Enterprise to find "Thomas" in order to replace Riker. Then after a couple of seasons Thomas is so creeped out by the whole ordeal that he goes crazy. This would make DS9's season 3 episode 9 "Defiant" make even more sense.
4:13 Frankenstein was a doctor and you're talking about Frankenstein's monster
I remember seeing this many years ago when it was first aired in the UK (mid-90s!) and I really liked it. Upon re-watches, it is rather sentimental and a bit lame, but still fun. But it is full of holes.
How on earth did Soong put the message- chip-thingummy in Julienna's brain? The message said, "She left me", which would suggest Soong planted the message chip in *after* she left him. So Soong tracked Juianna, KO'd her and added extras to the chip. Unless Julianna's message chip had wide-ranging Bluetooth, I guess.
What I also don't get is that Soong built an android that was so sophisticated, it fools the Enterprise's computer and scanners decades later!
I'd give it a C.
I love your humor "my kids are not robots. I.do not treat them with that much dignity 😂"
wow the intro is fantastic!
Dr. Sung was hiding on the jungle set and everyone thought he was dead and for some reason no one cared.
Yeeeeah... Everyone kinda doesn't like Soong. He's brilliant, so people let him stick around, but he's mentioned more than once to have been very arrogant.
@@acg452sounds like Walter Bishop
@@acg452lol he’s a literal “god” that can create life from inanimate matter. Wouldn’t you be arrogant???
@@jamesbizs He is neither a literal nor metaphorical god of any kind. He took the technology of his time and made something new. Impressive, to be sure, but hardly on the level of godhood.
Furthermore, arrogance does not spring from having great ability. It springs from never being humbled. There are people with next-to-no ability that can be very arrogant. There are people with vast and useful skills that can be oh so humble.
Humility is the product of those times when a person cannot fix their problems on their own.
Thinking about it, Data X Troi does make some sense. I imagine it'd be a relief for Troi to be with an actual man of mystery. I think her other option is a Ferengi, which makes Data a lot more appealing. They already explored this concept somewhat in that "Data gets a girlfriend" episode. Data's mother was cloying, though it does make some sense given that Data's difficulties with integrating into society had already been established. I get the "Data is still a robot" argument, but an estranged mother who meets her child as an adult will act much like this, talking about diapers, first teeth, etc. because she missed the rest of the developmental milestones and has nothing else to connect with.
Scooby-Doo-style Maddox reveal would have been about 100x better than this episode. Also, I'd love a Trek series that follows the (mis)adventures of the exocomps.
Lot of stinkers in the first half of 7, but from here on we start getting some much better material with a few exceptions I think
Ahem... Sub Rosa ....
I will say that there are a few decent episodes to come, but there are still some stinkers. So far, I'd say the start of the season is devoid of decent episodes, so not too off the mark with the comment. Regardless, its always fun to critique.
so i tried your advice, and luckly, my parents aren't robots... also, i lost the heritage... not sure why :(
One of my least favorite science fiction tropes, our super duper sensitive senors that can detect cellular residue in the parts per quadrillion and sense things light years away, yet away somehow can't pick up this McGuffin because of..Plot.
I hated it on DS9 with the Changlings and BSG with the Cylons who had USB ports in their arms, but somehow they still alluded their sensors/metal detectors.
Because he made a technology that actively fools technology? Lol so you can accept sensors, that can sense things, but not tech that sends out false data to those same sensors? Sensors, that he probably had a hand in creating in the first place?
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C- episode. Data backstories do indeed seem to leave you wanting for more, or more accurately, unsatisfied. I liked the interactive scene explaining things at the end, but as you said, they didn't really uncover anything new except that she was an android. Dr. Suhn (spelling?) episodes make him seem one-dimensional, but I get why he may have been written that way, as engineers/scientists can be pretty focused and straightforward thinkers.
Nice cut-back critique of the script and Juliana's double-back on only one appropriate site. I like the use of the Romulan spy phrase, but perhaps a new phrase can be easter-egged in.
Couldn't of Data held Dr. Tanner when they jumped off the ledge. He could of held her like a child and land without too much problems. Then Data would never learn the truth. Makes you think 🤔.
couldn't HAVE
@@timmiller1954also COULD have, LANDED, and too MANY problems.
Dr Sung sang a song.
They always have humanoids with werid looking outrageous ears on this show.
Getting ever closer to the two worst episodes of the entirety of TNG and I can't wait for your take especially sub rosa as I'm sure yourselves and most everyone else here is. Untill then great content as always.
What's the other worst one?
@@catnewskawai9367 oh sorry I should have said "masks"... Not everyone may agree with that assessment as top tier worst, unlike sub rosa where pretty much everyone does, but in terms of sheer lame cheesiness and horrendous acting and atrocious writing I personally feel it warrants a potential second place.
Is there a worse episode out there? Be sure to tell us your picks in the comment section below and don't forget to like or subscribe.... Wait what??? Uh Nevermind.
@@catnewskawai9367 Genesis
Genesis is fun. Masks is a slog to get through.
So much excitement for bad episodes! You must be enjoying this season immensely!
The rat's nest on Dr Tainer's head had me distracted the entire episode.
Given that Data recognised Dr Tainer's viola playing as route and mechanical I would have liked to have seen him reflecting on his own imitations of artistic expression.
The idea that Data would consider her being under the misapprehension of being human a valid reason not to tell her the truth was ridiculous and didn't seem remotely in character, and Picard's "Yeah, whatever... you decide, Data." approach seems equally out of character and sloppy.
Edit: It's probably too late in TNG's run to suggest looking at the kerning of Robert's name?
Data and Troi did not have sexual relations
Lol! But should have as Data is very when versed in positions.
The only real upside of not telling her she's a robot is that people won't try to kidnap her. I despise with a passion hiding the truth from people just to protect their feelings.
Data's mom is just a copy of Dr. Sung in an android body. It would have been far more interesting if she had been a cold, rational counterpart to Sung who viewed Data as her ex-husband's goofy science experiment and wanted nothing to do with him. Data would be confronted with parental rejection, and his mother might grapple with the absurdity of resenting an android for destroying her marriage. Then by observing Data's life among the Enterprise crew, she could slowly realize that he had become a real person and accept him as her son.
What's not funny is calling Data a robot when he's an android. There's a difference. Looks like I stumbled onto another idiotic video where the creators thought they were humorous. Complete failure.
'promo sm' 😃