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Star Trek: TNG Review - 7x18 Eye of the Beholder | Reverse Angle
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- čas přidán 26. 03. 2023
- Troi joins the "I'm in charge of the ship and am also crazy" club.
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Braga, Brannon. “Eye of the Beholder.” Star Trek: The Next Generation, created by Gene Roddenberry, Season 7, Episode 18. Paramount Television, CBS, 1994.
Darabont, Frank, director. The Shawshank Redemption. Columbia Pictures, 1994.
Cameron, James, director. Aliens. 20th Century Fox, 1986.
Russell, Chuck, director. Eraser. Warner Bros., 1996.
Rather, Brett, director. Rush Hour. New Line Cinema, 1998.
Kershner, Irvin, director. RoboCop 2. Orion Pictures, 1990.
It's thoughtful of the Enterprise's HR team (seems to be Riker and Troi) to station most of the ugly-faced aliens in the nacelle tube where the rest of the crew don't have to look at them.
"Dan never commits suicide at home..."
... at least never on Thursdays.
😂 Airplane
Troi's investigation of the area he was working when he committed suicide is basically what the new ghost hunting shows do. Walk into a room, stop, go "WOAH", say you feel some ailment, leave, blame your tummy ache on ghosts.
LOL! Very true.
Calloway -- "You killed him."
Troi -- "And you're a witness."
*kills Calloway too*
Troi -- "Well, I'm in the mood for a chocolate sundae."
*Okay, I disagree with the narrators, because Worf & Troi physical relationship did happen, let's just overlook Troi's encoded obsession with chocolate, the only event that we all know is a hallucination of Deanna is her killing worf.*
This ship is a literal deathtrap.
cue the “Fuck that!” scene from Galaxy Quest.
@@seanwieland9763 "This makes no logical sense! Why is it here?!"
@@seanwieland9763 You mean the "Screw that!" scene ^^
It's a ship used for first contact/initial recon ...AND CHILDREN ARE ALLOWED ON BOARD.
I love TNG but holy hell, some of the writing. 🤦🏽♂️
😂😂😂
I especially love how every screen and power conduit on the ship are made of refined explodium, so at the first sign of damage they violently explode killing anyone nearby.
11:42 Previous episodes with the Traveller and Where No Man Has Gone Before have established that at the level of subspace, thoughts and reality are one in the same. Same reason Q’s powers and the Enterprise D jumping to warp have the exact same flash effect. So this actually fits within TNG’s world building.
Oh god... Star Trek is a prequel to Warhammer 40k, isn't it?
@@whitemouse2460 …yes?
This is actually how the universe works.
I've probably seen this episode 20+ times over the years yet I almost forgot it existed.
Same.
I had hoped to forget it's existence but here I am.
Robert: I wanna quit now…Don’t put that in.
Nick: (Puts it in)
😂
I think you’ll find that Season 7 was uneven because they really seem to put most of their effort into the final episode, which to me is extremely well done.
It was also because the braintrust took on too many projects and spread themselves thin. Simultaneously you had the last season of TNG, the fledgling (and struggling a bit) DS9, development of Voyager, and development of the movie franchise.
And no episode this week!!! They did quit…. No!!!!! Lol
Troi's hair is enormous. It looks like it smells nice.
I was going to call you creepy, but you know what? I think I see exactly what you mean. It looks nice and fluffy.
I've got hair like that if I don't get a good cut. Unfortunately, back in the 90s, there wasn't much decent product around for our type of hair, so we ended up looking like a big bit of floof. In the event of a long-term zombie apocalypse, and for months, I couldn't do anything with my hair, I'd be able to capture and hide birds in it.
Troi’s always been written to be extremely femme, which is why she hot-dropped the saucer section onto a planet.
@@BintyMcFrazzles lol, like in Family Guy when Peter had baby birds in his beard. 😅
@@seanwieland9763 🤣
You guys totally missed what the traces of cellular residue were. Guy murdered his girlfriend and hides her in a wall. Then he stays aboard the ship for the entirety of the show. He undoubtedly was visiting the crime scene frequently. Now when Killers revisit the crime scene what are they doing?
RED HAIRED GUY
killed the girl
and killed himself
his psychic echo
infected
QUAN & TROI
Although it was an illusion, didn't Troi prove that she would murder a man for cheating on her? Best ship's councilor ever! 🤣
Many therapists have their own mental issues. 😄
Wow they’ve had Warden Norton and Boggs as guest stars on here…. All they need is Captain Hadley and they’ll have all the villains from the Shawshank Redemption lol.
Hadley showed up on Enterprise.
William Sadler, who played Heywood, had a recurring role in the later seasons of DS9 as Sloan.
Tbh I'm surprised Clancy Brown never showed up in TNG as a guest role.
He was on Enterprise at one point though
Shawshank and Star Trek are in the same universe. Remember when Andy shacked up with a young science-fiction writer called Benny, just before Billy boy made his ascension.
@@Cool70sfreakhe was on Earth 2 (anyone remember that one?)
Took two weeks but I’m all caught up on this playlist.
You can't nit pick anything in this episode as it all happened in Troi's mind, so it technically didn't happen.
Imagine if Troi and Worf got together and had children (like in Parallels), their off-spring would be part-Warrior, part-Empath. So they could bat'leth you to death, and feel your pain at the same time. 😱
Imagine the tactical advantage of empathy in fight to the death.
That's a very old joke.
@@junglemoose2164 Yes, and I've been waiting 30 years to use it!
Great job. It's to bad troy was almost immediately made redundant when they got someone capable of not being a terrible listener in the friendly bartender guinan
I apologize if you've commented on this already but are you guys planning to watch DS9?
Overall it has more episode-to-episode continuity, and I know the very episodic, self-contained nature of TNG stories has been a critique of yours in quite a few videos.
Either way, keep up the great work as always. Reverse Angle kicks ass.
I love when I find anything where the “Wilhelm Scream” is used, here where the guy commits suicide. Public Domain scream effect that’s free! Makes my day every time, despite the less than stellar episode. Keep up the good work you two. I look forward to your reviews every week. 👍👍👍👍
FUN FACT
the nacelle tube set
was built in such detail
because they intended to
use it in
STAR TREK : GENERATIONS
So did they find skeleton or the body. Because if they found skeleton, it means body already decomposed. Which should be immediately picked up by sensors - rising levels of methane and other gases, bacteria in rotting flesh - how that was missed on a starship ?
This is not so much Picard's first suicide as it is just his first SUCCESSFUL suicide, and that's only if you don't count visitors who left the ship to kill themselves (which happened at least twice).
Worf attempted suicide at least twice.
Riker shot himself when he thought he was going mad.
Picard himself started the self-destruct countdown in "Where Silence Has Lease".
Probably some others I can't remember yet.
I remember "Boggs" creeped me out when I first saw this episode, watching Shawshank Redemption later didn't help matters either. Well cast part, he probably loved it!
When Expendable LTJG 7723 is standing there about to jump, why do they try to talk him down instead of beaming him the f out of there? Did the writers forget that transporters exist ... or were bullshittion particles interfering with getting a lock?
Notice how they put the less attractive crewmen in less seen parts of the ship.
Weirdos go to the nacelle control room
If they jump into the plasma field, no big loss. It increases the average attractiveness level of the ship.
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 you would think there would some sort of barrier to prevent crew members from killing themselves…
13:57 damn, that really should have been an entire episode
Why didn't they just use the transporter to stop the guy at the beginning from killing himself?
I like this episode. I really thought and believed that Worf and Troi fell in love. He even admitted that he had feelings for her in a way. I also like Parallels as Worf was going alternate realities and in several he and Troi were married and he is thinking "Something is not right"! But it would had been great if they got married. But, oh well. He falls for Jadzia Dax on deep space nine.
I found this episode so confusing. When I first saw it I thought Troi Imagined everything once the door was opened which means there was no body hidden in the ship, no murder, the crew man was just a guy doing his job. Then you 2 Reverse Angle it and I am totally lost. Do you believe there was a murder? Please clear this up.
it's very interesting that you gave this episode C and D+ while Masks got F but I much rather rewatch Masks than Eye of the Beholder which is quite forgettable and kinda bland... Masaka is coming :3
Everyone likes different things for different reasons.
I enjoy these reviews but...
They also gave higher ratings to episodes like "the Outcast" and "managie a troi" than they did "Cause and Effect."
Baffling to say the least.
I don't think I've re-watched this episode since it aired. I definately didnt catch that the actor who played Drake in Aliens was in this one.
C- episode. Interesting idea to use a partial empath for a murder mystery. I think all fair points were made about the episode. Good review.
So you can just open a door and see directly into the nacelle plasma energy and not get exposed to deadly radiation? There’s no shield up because we see a guy just jump right into the stream. So high energy plasma isn’t putting out deadly radiation despite tritium being a waste product of the reaction?
1:38 Well Worf did come THIIIIIIIIS close in Night Terrors ;p
Don't quit please!
Did you guys stop watching with 5 episodes to go
Bogs! Nice!
Lol at the fact Picard literally refers to his first suicide that he forgot
I've been waiting for the next episode for so long now lol.
PIERCE
killed the girl
and himself
and his psychic echo
affected
QUAN & TROI
I wonder when during S7 the writers learnt that TNG had been cancelled ... They're really phoning it in by this point (I mean, at least this wasn't 'Masks' ...).
Swell review
The ending worked for me. Even though half the episode was in her head, it would have resulted in her death if she were alone in "real life". That is to say, the stakes were real.
Another enjoyable review
Empathic poops lol
Did it break you? Did you accidentally watch Picard, just said No, and stopped now?
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Tell me that this review didn't happen. It never happened!
There is only one obvious conclusion: Troi commited the murder.
it would be pretty funny if THIS was the episode that broke the guys. and so close to the finish line
Don't worry, that is not the case, CZcams is just giving us trouble with the next episodes, but they are on the way.
@@reverseangle fuck youtube and their copyright bs. hope things get sorted soon, it's been a while. not that i'm impatient, just worried for y'all
For some reason I like this episode. It's clunky but intriguing, then has a bad ending 😂
I've come to accept that, as much as I love TNG, the endings of most of these episodes are quickly wrapped up and are very underwhelming.
@@mattstrathis4328 "OMG the whole planet is dying from nuclear fallout! Everyone is doomed!"
"Captain's report: we successfully un-nuked the planet and there were no casualties."
I started writing that in jest but then remembered we just saw such an episode.
What is going on with Troi's upper lip in this episode?
I have seen a couple of different explanations... allergic reaction, lip filler. It's really bizarre looking.
Fun
Are you on vacation?
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Hey guys, great video!
I also do Trek reviews!
Another late series ditzy.
I actually gave lower grades because I didn’t like it so much I didn’t recognize the name. I did like troi killing worf. I bet the actress loved that part considering her feelings about the actor
One of the worst episodes of TNG and no coincidence it revolved around Troi.
Yeah, this was a very mediocre episode. I agree.
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Let's see, nitpick everything like it's the worst thing in the world, accentuate the negative to an insane degree, typical reverse angle review.
Someone is hurt
I have noticed they enjoy the ones I don't think much of... and they generally don't like the ones I do like. Oh well. I still enjoy watching these reviews.
@Matt Strathis I've found one trait of a useful reviewer is that they have a consistent viewpoint relative to mine. That can be agreement or disagreement.
A bad reviewer's viewpoint seems random or is that everything is good or everything is bad.
I mainly watch reverse angle for the banter and for them calling out things I may have missed.
@@macmcleod1188
They do make some good points but sometimes I think they get a bit too hung up on some of the technical aspects of the shows plot points while ignoring others. There will always be plot holes in a Sci Fi show but there are times where it's up to the viewer to use their own imagination a little bit to elevate the viewing experience.
For example, I'm not a big fan of this particular episode...not because it "never really happened outside of Troy's mind," but moreso because it involved brand new characters that we have no emotional investment in.
@Matt Strathis I also felt it was late in the series to introduce new characters.
Shows like this should introduce a dozen regular bit/ back characters. Like on ds9.
Then if they died, we would feel something.
Because we won't believe a main character did outside of a season finale.
And we don't care/ it's too obvious when red shirt #42 is set up to die. C