How to Install a Completely Different Type of Window
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- čas přidán 16. 11. 2018
- Installing a window that is very unique to post frame construction. I am by no way saying this is the best solution...especially when looking for air tightness, but I suppose some good foam insulation would create a pretty good seal around the rough opening. Plyco makes some great windows and doors for this specific industry, and these are great options for those projects that are balancing aesthetics and function in my opinion. They install fairly fast, and the windows don't slow down the installation of your steel.
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This is a good book. Does provide a step by step introduction to how to build things czcams.com/users/postUgkxhgbP-6hUnXu_QRaoHgLztgsI0YF3HqR0 , also does offer some steps. Includes pictures to give you ideas for layouts and such. If you are looking for a guide, this is not exactly what you want. But if you are trying to familiarize yourself with the way that pole barn building and other out buildings, are made, then this will work just as you need it to. A few things in this book are a barn (of course), detached garage, storage building, and coops.
Be happy for phone calls, they typically mean you're busy. If the phone doesn't ring, start worrying.
Keep up the great videos. Love watching your craftsmanship!
Amazing. I’m impressed with how straight and precise you cut the opening.
Brian Prusa lol my forearm was killing me
The narrative complement the video perfectly. I'll appreciate very much a gutter and down spout installation. Please let me know if you posted a dedicated video already.
Saw you on the interstate yesterday, hope you had a good time with your family.
Cool, good to know. I have installed similar windows by first using the nibble to quickly "rout" out the bulk of the siding. This, of course, leaves a small (1/4") overhang that you can then use a pair of snips to easily ride the edge of the opening to quickly get a completely flush cut on bottom and sides. Then you just have to use the snips to cut the 3/4" reveal at the top, which is still easier because 99% of the opening metal is gone. I think "retro" installing the windows is a big advantage and looks better, especially on smaller windows. Thanks for the tip!
As always, great content, great information and very well presented. I truly appreciate all the helpDo you have given me through these videos, thank you!
Thanks for the clear instructions and tips! Those are helpful
Great videos from this man love learning new things
Again thanks for the details with the video 👍
I agree with what you said about this would be more for a cold storage building and I do think they look nice. I'd prefer a standard vinyl window with nailing flange that is properly flashed and caulked.
Good job Woody
I was wondering about those Plyco windows the other day when I was watching another one of your videos, since usually you use Simonton. I sell doors and windows for a living so I notice that stuff, lol. The biggest problem I have with aluminum windows is how non energy efficient they are especially in cold climates. They look great though.
You're right it is different. Looks good though. Not sure of weather tight.
great job what a pro
Thanks for your video’s
hey mate nice videos, would this type of window be easier to install into the steel while uninstalled on the ground then fit the window/steel combo at once
Aluminum looks great here. And it can be energy-efficient nowadays :)
I have just a short question... You was screwing the window only from the outside... why you don't screw it from the inside of the building? so it is very easy to break into the building... Sorry for my bad english.
Need an onsite secretary for answering those constant calls and ordering materials and food and all that.. haha , nice informative vid.
Hi Kyle,
On your different windows where you cut the steel out afterwards after you cut your widths use a a straight edge and score your height with a box knife and brake them off
Why not use your power shears and/or nibblers? Love your vids and your work ethic.
great video but seems like that would be a pain i like look but i like the way you do other windows
Is this a good window if I went with no house wrap? I was trying to figure out how to put a window in without it. Normally you flash to it but we are planning on doing spray foam directly to the metal so no house wrap. Any idea would be appreciated.
hey bud! love your videos man, I know this is an older video, but I am building an interior living space in an existing pole barn on my property here in central oregon. I have the same type of ribbed metal that this pole barn has, and it has farbroseal ringed NAILS unfortunately. I have a couple questions, I was going to remove all the nails on the roof and replace them with screws, do you have a recommended screw for roof pole barns? After replacing the nails on the roof I was thinking about rolling on some sort of roof sealant as extra precaution for the possibility of leaking screws and to seal the seams.. maybe you can link a video that you mentioned this or a link to another video that covers this topic. Do you ever seal your metal pole barn roofs with anything? thanks again for these videos, they are a life saver!
I would pull nails and just replace with a larger hex head neoprene washer screw
RR Buildings thanks for that answer, do you have a recommendation for a brand of screw or some on amazon that you have used and like? Thanks! Happy easter 🙌
I Use Malco turbo snips to Cut out our Plyco window openings and I dont have any Issues, I even use them to Cut the notches for the top. The only thing they're no good for is Rip Cutting on the slope of a rib, We use a razor knife and score it and snap it then.
I did Windows similar to them by Seara I have to go back they are leaking in heavy poor downs . Only thing I can think of is adding J channel 5/8 lip custom bend , sad part is I pre hung the windows and cut the steel, slid it around the window each side Corner trim has to come down and 2 sheets of steel . Windows on a pole barn are like Sky lights on a Roof always leak .
I need some advice I am taking an old 60 year asphalt shingle on a building I bought I want to put new bat insulation plywood house wrap and then a solid 1 inch insulation then an old corrugated roof material as siding can I use basic jeldwin windows and is it ok for using house wrap in south Dakota will it mold thank you
Gotta use the double cut shears up the sides. You can get the tooth to run up the board on the inside.
I noticed you did not flash your house wrap over the top flange. Is that standard with these sets?
I love those Windows
What do you do if the sides with the weather seal land on a high rib? I guess you’d just have to plan the window layout from your rib width across the wall so you know every window side lands on the flat?
Yes. Layout your steel so that the ribs are avoided at the sides.
Would you use that as a replacement window for a metal building?
Might not be my first choice in general, but it seems perfect for some situations. What happens when the side of the frame happens to end up on top of a raised siding rib?
You can't let that happen. It's called layout!
Kyle,
What Brand of Windows is your " go to window " when building a barnaminium for a client ? We live in Central PA ?
Do you do work in PA at all ?
What happens when the edge of the window hit a bump in the corrugation of the metal siding.?
Awesome tips my brother I like it good job :)
I have a building i built 4 years ago myself and at the time i did not put in any windows. This looks like a great solution for someone looking to add windows. I looked up the company and couldn't find how or where to buy, any suggestions?
Did you ever figure out how or where to buy windows for your shop?
Seems like more work than is necessary. Did the customer choose the windows or just something new you are trying?
Cameron Lienhart building package... I didn’t choose
What is that steel siding called?
Can you use Plyco windows on a home?
What series of Plyco window is that? Thanks
Hi what cutter did you use for the stright cuts.
Strange question what are those work trousers you have on look well comfy and warm thanks
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Yea that was slightly gay. He's doing a how to video and your checking out his a$$. OK!
On that Playco window on installation I use a piece of J channel which can be any color on the bottom part and it’s tends to hold the metal together while I try to slide her over the top of course that’s hidden from the finished product just a little trick I found
I just heard about this trick yesterday from one of my coworkers. Seems like a great idea.
First, I'm not a metal siding pro, so I have very limited experience. I've installed windows with wood siding, and this window looks like a real pain to install. If it starts leaking in the future, how do you seal it up?
Put a little silicone in those notches on the top corners and some in the bottom corners and you wont have any leaks
@@creightonruble9030 Until that chinzy gasket fails on the sides!
@@bdub78dub90 idk about the total longevity of them but I havent had any issues so far in over 8 years
I like the video, but not too crazy about the windows.
do you have to worry about the lay out of your steel .you dont want the side of the window to lay on the high rib ?
Correct, You can either adjust your steel layout or move your window a few inches to avoid a Rib
Is the window only hold down by three screws untop?
No There's actually a smaller "nail fin" on the bottom behind the J similar to the top, Which should have Screws installed similar to the top, Plyco also recommends you put just a dab of Silicone in the 2 corners of the exterior of the window where the Notch is made in the steel and on the bottom side in the 2 corners. I've installed going on 50 or 60 of these types of Plyco Windows with the Pole barn company I work for and it blew me away how secure they actually are
Are plastic sheds better than wood?
I was thinking the construction is easy to get bricks at the wall line to make room then I look at the Professional hard working labour's explaining how to do it with using brain power to get the best
My thumbs up was for the window. Nice idea to buy from a company that has the weather proofing details prefabed.
That shit looks TIIIGHT. I still would have found somewhere to put some clear caulking just cuz I'm nutty like that
It really shows you love this system. LoL.
so I assume there's a problem with this install if a rib happens to end up at the edge of a window?
Absolutely that’s why you need to plan where you place the window. If you place it in between the high ribs your fine. But it’s been my experience with these windows that if you install them up against a high rib it’s at greater risk of leaking.
We use these all the time. We frame the windows 3" wider and add two plys to either side to avoid the high ribs if needed.
We install the horizontal boards before the steel, then toe screw in the vertical boards after steel had been ran , insuring you dont land at a major rib.
I do have one question I've never seen you use electric tin snips just curious on why?
I use double cut snips all the time for long straight cuts but they don’t work as well going over ribs as nibblers
@@RRBuildings I c thanks
Add a piece of j trim at the bottom it helps side it in easier
Really? 5,280 views and only 526 likes? Come on guys hit that thumbs up. Do it.
I believe that’s a different profile of metal? Why does it look as if your underlap is your overlap? Just curious man.
Raymond Hillenbrand it’s not my typical
Steel panel. It’s from Walters building
Alrighty thanks.
Having worked for Walters. I knew I recognized steel!
I like that you have left and right side sizers ha ha
👍🏼to the beard too
Why do you never use a grinder to cut steel? Do the sparks burn the coating? Cutting the windows out by hand would annoy me!
When you cut steel with grinder you are overheating it and it is gona rust faster
It cooks the paint and ruins the Galvanization it will rust in No time
Grinder... With cutoff wheel. On cuting out that metal. I use them all the time. Eats through the wheels though. Make sure your wearing your eye pro. With practice you can be very precise
That's a sure fire way to get your steel to rust.
Voids warranty though
What happens if the edge of the window falls on a rib?
You should always lay out the building so that doesn’t happen
So the only thing sealing the window from moisture is that gasket that we all know is going to fail long before silicone would! Hmm.
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question years ago we used a skill saw with the blade turned backward to cut out windows why use snips for big cuts just asking not judging
It Cooks the paint and the Galvanization, Causes it to rust in no time. I've tried it to save time and had to go back and replace the steel
I never try to cut steel with a blade
Rust,rust,rust. Snips used correctly eliminate that.
I’m confused. You secure it nicely (tightly) at the top but fail to detail how you do so on the sides or bottom. What keeps the window from kicking out on the bottom?
When you install the screws at the bottom they hold the window in. There is a small lip at the bottom that does get fitted behind the ribbed steel.
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That looks like it would be really easy to remove on the final building and break in without noise.
Or just pick the door lock in about 30 seconds with a wave pick or credit card.
@@cabguy1006 you just need to practice more.
@@tysleight I guess that is still an option in the States. I forget how poor your locks are.
On most pole barns its Easier to just remove a piece of wainscoting
@FoxRcng708 not taking shots at you at all, many Americans complain about how poor your locks are compared to the rest of the world. You sound like that typical American thou believing you are the best. The only Americans that seem to think that way are the ones that have never travelled and therefore are ignorant of what is outside their own borders.
Was waiting for the window to become a hat... slapstick; before I realized you had a man inside.
I noticed that sly over under lap fix at 8 mins in
Can't you just cut the steel for the shape of the opening prior to attaching to the wall? It should have the same result with some good measurements and then you can use your faster powered snips.
Not much room for any error specifically the top
Yo, Dude... why don't you use a typical wood window? Wood frame, wood stiles, rails and muntins?
My luck, my window would land on a taller rib and I'd have to replace steel I had already started cutting and shift window over to get off the rib.
Layout your windows beforehand.
Watching from 🏴 man your windows seem weird to fit .suppose ours would be the same to yourselves.👍🏻
Your comment makes no sense. Please speak in English.
double the labor but is nice
Did not show mounting inside.
This looks like a lot harder to fit in place than the other video with J-channel pieces around
OK MR. TOOL YA NEED A FASTER WAY TO CUT OUT THAT STEEL, LETS GET ON THAT. LOL
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What happens if you land on a rib?
Lilly Grace that never happens when you lay it out
why didn't you remove the panel like you always do???? anyway, i did learn something. cool technique. lates
The panel needs to be in place to put the window in.
Cool
Burglary 101: 4 screws at the top and you are in
BMW M3 S65B40 lol you’d only be stopping an honest thief anyways.... they can always break the glass
My grandpa always told me that a lock only keeps an honest man out. It is the same for windows I guess.
You can always add security film on inside with an attachment system.
Hey thought yo never screwed the panels in through the rib? Thought you didnt like that look. Was this a customer preference or a different type of steam that requires it?
Also eff those windows, seems like a lot of nonsense to go for a look. Just IMO
Lol Willis... didn’t supplier which required rib placement... not my favorite, and yes same with the windows. Not my go to but thought it was important to share with people in case
I agree screwing ribs is a bad idea.
You could still cut the steel before you install it would make it much easier I think!
Love your videos by the way!
I agree probably smarter but then you are kind of missing the point of just running the steel through then coming back later
It's still much more efficient to efficient to cut it out beforehand.
Looks like a pain in the ass to me.😎
Oh no, you mean pane in the glass!
That window looks nice, but wow, what a PITA for you...
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What if the side lands on a rib?
Layout the windows beforehand.
After several edited out swear words, TADAA! And there is ya have it.
Hey man is this a Walters building?
Yes it is
RR Buildings the way you did it here is how I was taught to do it and honestly I hate installing them. They look super nice but can be a pain in the butt unless your cut out is perfect. And even still it’s a pain! I’ve found it easier to nib out the first sheet that hits the window then slide the window in and have a guy hold it there while I get my measurements and cut the next piece to fit around it and just slide the sheet in behind the sides and in the channel like your supposed to, screw it off and your done with it. No coming back later and fighting with the steel to cut it out and fighting the window to put it in. Hope this helps man
Looks like you need A bit of finesse with that window install to lock it in the channel .
HHProgressiveconstruction yes kind of a pain on the first couple they get easier
It seems like if that window on the side landed on a rib that type would not work with the “u” channel.
Don't let that happen.
Does not seem to be sealed very good on top and bottom. No seal their.
Pluss does not seem to be secured very well.
Only 3 screws holding it to window jam.
Not good.
Looks nice.
But would not buy or want it.
PITA.
Gonna buy you some electric shears 😁
PITA
Looks nice for finish but I wouldn't like the installation on a daily basis!
You reeked the panel next to the tv
The only thing keeping that junk leak free, is the roof above it. I’d hope those windows aren’t installed outside of a roof structure. Recommending products with known inferior qualities, then installing them, sounds like a good recipe for litigation.
I think we can all agree that windows on metal buildings are a bitch , but we get it done.