Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania - Angry Review
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AngryJoe, OtherJoe & Alex review the first film in the new Phase 5 for the Marvel Cinematic Universe with the introduction of Kang in the films through Ant-Man, is this one of the better or worse MCU films? Our Review!
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Lmao seeing Alex burnt out on superheroes and acknowledging he has to see and rate one of these movies every two months for the rest of his life is hilarious. I can feel his pain. Poor dudes in Marvel purgatory
He could just tell them he doesn't want to see the movie. He ain't obligated to watch it. Unless Joe has something on him that forces him to watch these movies.
@@imsentinelprime9279 Yeah, employment.
Of course you love to see him thatâs all you Alex riders say
could be worse
would i be wrong in saying most people are burnt out by marvel and the superhero movies / shows ??
At this point after loki , moon knight , ms marvel , she hulk and the down right sad showing of Thor love and thunder and phase 4 in general does ANYONE really care ??
Spider man no way home was great but most of that success was because of Andrew Garfield and Toby Maguire ..
I really couldnt be arsed going to see a marvel superhero movie anymore .. ive skipped this latest ant man ( and ive gone to se the other two ) simply because im marveled out i just dont care ill wait till it hits Disney plus.. MEH
I find hilarious that Cassie managed to rally the entire Quantum Realm into fighting against Kang, convinced a villain to turn into a good guy, and learn quantum mechanics in 20 seconds to open the portal back to Scott and hope. Not once did I think there was a sense of danger when everything was going well for the good guys
because woman are better ??? LOL
ill wait for this ant man to come to Disney plus till i bother with it .. which is rather amusing as since i sat thought the rubbish which was Thor love and thunder at the cinema .. ive waited for all new marvel movies to be free on streaming !!
They writers made Cassie Lang TOO op!đ
I agree with everything but the last part, as it sounds like Cassie has been studying the Quantum Realm for years. In the end she basically turned her device on again, but it doesn't make much sense since apparently they destroyed the power source? Even if she could send her signal it doesn't mean she would be able to open a portal.
@@beo3828 no she hasnât been studying it for years when Hank has spent most of his life studying it and yet wasnât able to figure it out properly yet Cassie somehow does and performs better than him in that regard.
Only part where I remotely thought they were in danger is when Kang was beating the brakes off of Rudd at the end
Imagine if Scott barely escaped with his life, lost his entire family and comes back to earth a completely different man⊠that would set the stage for Kang.. but not this
or cassie actually escaped with her life
Having multiple of the same villain or âvariantsâ imo weakens the threat they pose even if the other âvariantsâ are supposed to be stronger. Something like that could work in comics or maybe in one movie and not split. I wonder how theyll handle villains moving forward
You nailed it, the last few movies have lacked any emotion or purpose. If Scottâs family dies here at least there is purpose for him to seek revenge. End it with the audience questioning whether he made it or not
At this point Kang needs to wipe off half the roster to even redeem himself
@@KelpyG. kang is not intimidating at all
Kang should've dealt a huge blow to the avengers to make everyone nervous and hype him up more as a villan
@@blueferal8626
Why are Marvel fans like this...
This is why I'm embarrassed to join the fandom.
@@katgreer6113 imagine being a fan of kids movies đ€Ą
@@blueferal8626 imagine making racist comments about a black character and being triggered people like super hero movies
Imagine not being racist đ€ĄđŠ
@@blueferal8626 least racist 4chan user
So love and thunder was given the joke treatment and antman was supposedly more serious in tone. Wtf kinda dimension are we living in right now?
đ€Łđ
Maybe they switched writers đ€Ł
a genderless non binary universe.
Can't even watch MCU garbage anymore. Phase 5, 6, 7, etc etc probably gonna look like turds. The only good superhero show is The Boys on Amazon...and maybe couple DC movies..
@@Jake-qo3mp careful, the variant energy would spike and you would be pruned. Just go with the timeline
Nowadays, you can always count on Disney to deliver a mid project.
This was better than any 2022 Marvel film
@@btafbm The dog shit was better than the horse shit. That's all you said.
you want to know something cool? they always delivered mid projects. Marvel was always mid, even in 2012. Most people were just to stupid to realize it.
@@btafbm Ight your reaching hard on that
What even is the word mid it want that bad movie was a 8/10 they certainly were giving it there all.
Joe and Joe justify the movie with their love for Paul Rudd while Alex blankly stares into the dark abyss that is the marvel cinematic universe
Perfect review of the review đđœ
4:04 lmaooo
@@ethan-scott hello darkness my old friend
why do you always have to mention alex? seriously
@@ethan-scott đ
If this was supposed to be the phase 5 kickoff, they kicked, and tripped on the ball and got devoured by carpenter ants whilst lying on the ground.
Lol what did you expect đ
ThatsâŠ.a oddly specifik thing
Well now remember this was actually still suppose to be phase 4 originally
Well the writer of Quantimania has been assigned to write The Kang Dynasty so he might use that silly scene again for a callback đ
They had a kick attempt like that cowboys kicker in the playoffs
I think the issue with the MCU is that it's trying to be too big for its own good. They probably need to scale down the stories a bit and make things their own contained films. Every movie or show nowadays is a crossover or a set-up for the next big thing to come and it takes away from what's currently presented to you.
Yea, I think they forgot their own formula. Remember when the movies were self contained, and whatever tie-in there may be was in the after credits scenes (outside of maybe a cameo)? Now, theyre all over the place trying to connect everything or set-up something/somebody else, and it's just a mess.
They want you stuck in the Matrix
Or maybe people should stop expecting some huge set-up for something that might never happen and just live in the moment, enjoy the movie for what it is.
I just watched it. It feels like actors walked around a green screen for 2 hours reading lines which it actually was.
Pretty much how it is đđ
You just described 99% of MCU.
This is why I think Ant-Man movies should remain small-scale. Elevate one to Thor or Dr. Strange in scope, and you just get a mess. Seriously, Kang isn't an Ant-Man villain, he's an Avengers level threat.
Nah they just shouldn't have done Kang, he's so goofy or at least the actor is. Def not Kang from Comics at all.
Itâs was a success to MHE
â@@knowncoop3092MHE?
That is actually a good point, I was actually expecting everyone to lose but regardless Iâm looking forward to seeing where this leads.
hehe, ant man, small scale
Apparently they changed the ending. Ant man was suppose to stay in the qauntum realm with Kang. Which is where both lose line was suppose to go.
Then they should have done that because the way they defeated Kang is the meaning of not going to take him seriously anymore
@@jackjohn4156 i havent seen it yet but no way Kang gets defeated.. by fucking antman. Bro if anything Antman was supposed to die in this movie at the hands of Kang
@@jonfx6768 facts it happens in the comic books
@@jonfx6768 I would recommend wait and not go watch it. I was contemplating leaving in the movie. Yes it was that bad. That ending had ppl actually laughing about how bad it was. You will be surprised how they defeat him if you watch it, not in a good way
@@jonfx6768 (Maybe Squirrel Girl could take him down...)
I don't think anyone had any doubts about Jonathan Majors as Kang being great, so it is good to see that this part lived up to expectations. But did anyone else notice how they centered their entire marketing campaign around mostly Kang? It's like they knew that the rest of the movie wouldn't hold up as well...
I mean the movie was basically all about Kang lol. I know what youâre saying tho, yeah it was definitely planned that way. Also I didnât like how the trailers (or at least one of them) framed Kang as offering to give Scott more time with his daughter, when that was not part of it at all. Just sort of misleading and I think would have been added depth to Ant Manâs character.
thats pretty much marketing 101 put your best stuff forward and not let the mid stuff make noise
You can't criticize POC.
@@cabe3231 đŻ
Dude the way he loses, i canât take him seriously anymore tbh.
I like that Joe said. "totally skippable" like nothing changed in this movie. not a single thing to move the mcu universe forward lol.
I feel like itâs an introduction to kang for casual MCU fans that donât watch the shows.
â@@sumdomguoy548 a poor introduction
The MCU has lived long enough to become the villian
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Given the track record of the other ant man films being "fillers" and "relief" for the previous film that was a blockbuster. Starting this out for phase 5 was a bad idea.
Maybe cancel the MCU forever bury it to the ground I'm almost certain people want that I just saw ant man 3 it was pretty kick ass 8/10 but yea man I see a lot of bashful comments about the film and phase 5
Exactly why they didnât want to use Ant Man as a Phase 3 starter. It wasnât strong enough for that.
Itâs because they donât have any good characters anymore. Eventhough they could have made Guardians a phase 5 movie but then we would criticise them for not knowing what they are doing which is still true lol. Or open with Fantastic 4, or open with Xmen, or open with Spiderman. They just need to actually be bold enough to stop making marvel movies for a bit.
Yep
It was done wrong the Quantum realm works narrative wise its how its shot. And the format sets and the visual blur some people shouldn't do Sci Fi esk story components. This also isnt the worst film with all films but it doesn't really do anything. Its script as well but marvel didn't care cuz its Ant Man.
Alex looks depressed thatâs how you know itâs a rough one
He kinda always looks that way
If you were that big with an inny pp you'd look like that too
He always does.đ
He thinks everything's bad
And also, from watching Picard.
People are finally starting to see how lazy Marvel is getting, itâs quantity over quality
Not for long especially with the shows being pushed back.
Argh! They truly believe they can just squeeze another stinker, slap a marvel logo on it, and sell it as a âquality productâ
If this movie wasnât as woke as say eternals, youâd have the shill media defending this movie hard, but even they canât keep up the charade for long as it shows.
Getting? Theyâve been lazy since _IRON MAN 1_
â@@_Cetarial gtfo of here.
Uh... Lazy people do more stuff?
Yep, Majors carried the entire movie, and I really hope he continues in the MCU as Kang.
He'll be Kang for as long as he wants/as long as the MCU has a use for Kang. Fiege said Majors tested the best of any of their villains thus far, and with the variants angle, Majors is getting to flex some range. I just hope they give him better scripts
@@famousthaneus9810 Word. I lked how he was really expressive from what' were given so far. Both in Loki and Antman 3, he totally molds his persona perfectly.
Majors and Michelle Pfeiffer were the best in this movie, there acting was superb
Whoops
This was a rare case for me where reading/watching reviews beforehand actually helped me out. I was so hyped and excited for this movie, but seeing the negative reviews grounded my expectations, and after watching the movie I actually had fun. I was still pretty disappointed on how they portrayed Kang, and by that I mean his writing, because Jonathan Majors was so good in the role that even though he was written quite bad, he was still very intimidating whenever he was on screen.
Yep same for me, i was expecting some garbage level like Thor the dark world, She hulk or Ms marvel level type badđ
This movie doesn't deserve anything above a 4/10. I left the theatre with a 6/10 in mind, but the more I reflected upon it, the more it dawned on me that barely anything works here.
Argh! I saw it early, and people I. My theater remained quiet for the entire thing, with maybe a few laughs at the reveal of modokâs CGI face and how he âredeemsâ himself because a little girl called him a dick?
And by the end, after the credits rolled and the final after credits scene, no one cheered nor was talking about it, they all quietly left as if they just witnessed another stinker of a film
@@Cook-by-the-book "no one cheered in my theater" seen it twice and people left clapping and happy asf. Maybe don't try to compare your theater to the rest of the world bud :)
5/10
@@hamsterrwrld6767 notice they said "my" theater, not THE ENTIRE WORLD's THEATER....work on your reading comprehension Disney shill.
That rating is about how I rated but it some parts itâs a 3
Martin Scorsese proved his point except itâs getting worse
No kidding, Im an Mcu fan but the momentum they have is getting worse. Their only saving grace is doing elseworld films, so they can have their films some creative freedom and to stray away from the ridiculous MCU formula
Yet he couldnât get his movie popular.
Scorsese made Prometheus and Covenant so it's better for him to shut up.
@@gamer-px5cu Scorsese never made Covenant or Prometheus. He never gets involved in sci-fi films at all hence his dislike for the MCU.
@@gamer-px5cu... Did you just get Martin Scorsese and Ridley Scott mixed up?
Scarlet Witch seems more an omega level threat than Kang.
Because she is. Kang just has future tech as his powers.
@@johno1544 kang has taken on teams of avengers including ones with her on it..........
Kang can wipe out timelines with Scarlet Witch in it the fuuuck?
Kang the conqueror beaten by swarm of ants.
@@badapuljanjalani4725 lol
Part of the fatigue could be that a lot of the new stuff getting introduced isnât hitting general audiences as hard anymore. Both externals & Quantumanias post credit scenes arenât fulfilling at all and I can imagine people not knowing wtf is going on anymore (general audiences are likely not watching the shows but also theyâre not obligated to do so causing them to just give up)
Yep taking no name characters and not giving their story the proper telling is ruining this. When you are done with the characters that everyone knows already, you have really have good story telling and they don't anymore.
THANK YOU this is exactly why most people who are casuals and even some hardcore fans are getting tired of this oversaturated content with no end in sight.
Marvel needs a good long break in all honesty.
I read some reviews before going to see it last night... I was actually surprised by how much I enjoyed it. It wasn't perfect, but a lot of things worked for me. I am not sure how He Who Remains relates to this at all, that part is very confusing to me...
I felt exactly the same.
I enjoyed the movie too so we are in the minority here. I love this one better than the first 2 Antman movies đż Michelle Pfeiffer and Michael Douglas was great and funny đ admitting that they cheated on each otherđđâA woman has her needs.â And the other one, â Well I was with someone as well, but it didnât work outâŠShe wasnât you baby.â
same. For me, kang was just too good of a character for me not to enjoy. every scene with him I loved and the rest was decent. However, I do think that at the end, Scott shouldâve got stranded in the quantum realm or kang shouldâve escaped or something idk.
Ant man defeating kang and going back to a happy life just seems off to me. it makes kang seem a lot less powerful knowing he can just be defeated by ant man like that. and itâs crazy how easily kangâs empire was overrun by ant man and the others. but still enjoyed
@ejodh0826 I kinda think Kang did escape, just not directly.
We have established that shrinking or growing can move you to and from the quantum realm, and that core was tagged with a whole crap lode of pym particles.
What's to say that by "stopping" Kang, he didn't accidentally give him exactly what he wanted in the end by helping him pass through the one realm that could hold him. As soon as Kang is in any verse that time runs normally, he has everything he needs to rebuild and come back.
Just my take away.
I never saw any reviews or trailers for this film so I went in completely blind. I didn't hate it like some commenters here which is valid. At the end of the day I had fun (especially compared to Thor 4) watching with friends but the movie itself isn't anything special which now that I think about it is how I felt for all the Ant-man movies.
"I don't have to win. We both just have to lose".
*10 minutes later*
Ant-man wins.
Damn, man, even Dr. Strange had to work more against Dormammu.
For now
but he didn't win anything...he bought a little time but he definitely did not fucking win
@@Troupe_Masteryeah but as a stand-alone movie he won. Thatâs what people buy tickets for for this movie, which had no danger or emotion. As a franchise youâre right he didnât win hence the âkang will returnâ
@@Troupe_MasterHe walked away with everyone, when he shouldâve only walked away with just his life
The script for this movie was ass. They should have written Kang to beat Ant manâs ass and throw him back in the portal. Close it and see that Ant man put a quantum sensor on the sphere to break it and suck Kang in when heâs on the other side.
That way we see that Kang wins the fight but Ant man was smart enough to have a trick up his sleeve that may or may not have worked.
Paul Rudd yelling âOur word is our bondâ while walking over Kangâs palace like Lego is literally peak mcu cringe đ
Ya I was thinking the same thing.
âWe have something you donât-â
â *what* ? â
âLoveâ same vibes
It's more cringe lines and moments in this movie then Thor love and thunder
@@firstlast9846 family
@@TheyCallMe_TC jesus. That's a pretty high bar.
They built Kang up as this big bad only for him to go out like this. Man...
WTH is going on đ©đ
Thats just 1 Kang..
Bro he didnât âgo out like thisâ did you even watch the movie at all? First, this Kang isnât even dead, second, there is an infinite amount of kangs. They built him up because he will be present across all phase 5 and 6âŠ
â@@Yt-nu1lo nah, you think I didn't see the infinite Kangs in this movie or the other Kangs from Loki?
Too many shitty scripts, rushed movies and C tier characters. Now that Iron man, Cap and the OG Avengers are gone, the MCU will struggle until they get the X-men on board.
ââ@@tehCostHD I didn't imply that he was dead or alive. The fact of the matter is the greatest threat in the current MCU couldn't overcome Ant-Man.
They're not going to convince anyone that he's a legit threat to the Avengers.
Alex is a whole mood đ you guys are being way too nice to this film
why do you always have to mention alex? seriously
@@hiimdaisy946 why does it bother you
@@yaboiblue it bothers because when you have Joe's balls in your mouth, you have no room for Alex's balls too, so there's no room for multiple sacks of balls to have the spotlight at one time... it's quite a sad situation to be quite honest... you wanna suckle on both pairs, but have to choose only one
Let the man love the man
@@yaboiblue Why did you comment?
I love the part where Ant Man says "I don't have to win, we both just have to lose" and starts antmaaning all over the place.
Who else is just there waiting for Alex to say something đ
Yo
Ye
yup
"It's better than Eternals". You just know he's on simmer, gettin warmed up ;)
why do you always have to mention alex? seriously
I wonder if they kept original ending with Kang Winning and Ant-man dying would people still hate it.
If he gets replaced by Wasp, then yeah, I would hate it
Definitely not, Kang should've won in every single scenario. It is ABSURD how the third act plays out in this movie, I don't believe for a single second that Kang has conquered anything.
@@TheBakerZen exactly
@@TheBakerZen *whispers* theres more than one kang, adolescent.
@@TheSoulWithin7 If they were afraid of this kang to imprison him and in the end loses that way. I donât think he can conquer anything.
The logical/narrative bullshitery, especially in the third act, nearly gave me an aneurysm. Loved Mr. Majors and hated fake MODOK. 5/10.
Kang hopelessly watches big Scott fck sht up like he canât just teleport outside and one shot him in a second or two. Kangâs blasts pulverize everybody but when it hits main characters it just pushes them kinda far. Then when the ants come in he just gives up in using his powers altogether.
@@lopeshick9607 he literally froze Janet in time but couldnât do it again to everyone else? He was OP at times then just helpless in others. Not Majors fault though, he was the best part for me but the writers suck.
First comicbook film?
They disrespected MODOCK in such a way. I literally saw some ppl leave watching it lol
Iâm not gonna take Kang seriously as a threat when heâs being killed in every project heâs in.. bros the big bad but has died twice now. Imagine if Thanos had died twice in phase 1 and they said âdonât worry they were clonesâ like idgaf đ
Are yâall serious? This movie dropped the ball⊠Iâm deeply with Alex here
Same
How the fuck did it drop the ball ?
@@Troupe_Master how the fuck did it not ? Ainât Kang supposed to be one of the strongest villains and he lose to the bottom of the list of superheroes of all time he lost to fckin ant man and the waspđyet heâs supposedly â killed Thor and the avengers â Thor literally one shots antman and the wasp and thatâs who kang lost to .. no excuses and in the movie kang was barely into action til the end. the movie didnât give a reason for him to be this big bad of a villain he looked like a side boss ..
@@Troupe_Master it was the worst marvel movie ever
@@CASHOUTSHERMTM No, Endgame was the worst.
The critic score was pretty accurate for me, it is definitely a 4-5/10, 48% is appropriate. My suspension of disbelief was completely shattered, too much of the movie was overly convoluted and nonsensical just for the sake of it.
I hate specifically targeting somebody, but after the film I looked up the writer who worked on the film. In which he has never written a feature length film and all his writing credits are a handful of television sitcoms and Jimmy Kimmel live episodes. Before Antman he worked on Rick and morty, though they were also the most mid episodes of that show. Iâm just confused on how he became the only writer on this movie, when he doesnât have the experience, and only has written throw away comedy episodes. Not saying he doesnât deserve to break into feature film, but this was such a big budget film to throw someone with his experience into.
I wonder why they didn't just use the writer from the past two Ant-Man films?
Is funny the fact who Cinema with scene can hype the expectations with the Villain or Antagonist the start from The Dark Night, Hannibal, Death from Puss on Boots 2. The MCU did it with the First Appearance of Thanos on Infinity War is killing most of the crew on the ship (He's ruthless) Having Thor on his knees ( He's Powerful ) and then Beating the Hulk only punching (The Strongest) there, people know by other characters Thanos is a threat, but now you can see how much threat it is, Kill Asgard, Kill Loki, Beating Thor and the Hulk.
And is kind of funny think the fact that wanted to make us believe Kang is in theory more powerful than Thanos.
The Antman series has always been the weak link in the MCU franchise (one shot movies like Eternals notwithstanding). If they wanted the third Antman film to setup the next main phase, they should have gone with a new director and new vision to switch it up like they did with Thor and Captain America.
I never understood WHY they brought in Ant-Man. Nobody ASKED for an Ant-Man movie, and they made him seem so pathetic at times that it was just sad. I really wish they had done a better job. Tony Starkâs reaction to him in the end of civil war, where he says âIâm sorry who are you again?â, is similar to what alot of people think when Ant-Man is brought up.
@@scoobypup01 Nobody asked for anything in media. Doesnât mean we should obey that demand.
@@scoobypup01 I get that man but sometimes you need new characters what you want the same fucking people like iron man captain America and Hulk omg đ€·đ€·đ€·đ€Š man Ant Man isn't that bad he's pretty relatable funny and bad ass like spider man he grew on me became my favorite as well.
@@Jump-Man I donât expect the same people, but if they were gonna bring in others they had a whole slew of Marvel characters to choose from. Instead they pickâŠâŠâŠAnt-Man.
@@scoobypup01 ikr I'm not a fan of him either
My favorite part of this review was watching Alex do his best Ben Affleck mid-life crisis impression while Joe was just cheesing đ
I love how these Marvel movies kill off major characters, only to have them come back. Really creates dramatic tension and high stakes lol.
They got rid of their biggest cash cows (Ironman and Captain America)
Hate the mcu as much as you want, but Marvel had some balls by getting rid of those two.
@@thehale_ marvel didnât do anything. Their contracts expired and they didnât renew.
Was not a marvel choice
Itâs sad when I wrote a better movie in my head based off the trailer cuz Iâm not getting paid đ
I do it for most of these movies. That's why I'm almost always disappointed.
@@22e62ab I feel your pain!
Alex is always gonna call it how it is
My man gives no fucks
He hates everything.
@@Darkness1984 he does not,
heâs just critical which is what I come for⊠You know an actual movie critic
â@@salmanhanifa9123woke: leftist progressive forced bullshit. Example: forced feminism, forced black swaps, forced political propaganda, forced lgbtq, force humiliation of the opposite of previously mentioned things.
@MakkySparky aww look here a d rider
For a movie focused on Kang it really didn't uitilize him as well as he could've been. Especially since he's supposed to be the main bad guy in this new Marvel saga
And he (spoiler) gets defeated by ants. He doesnt feel like a threat now
â@@megatoto9468 it's 1 Kang, probably the weakest.
@@cruzinthruspace argh! Multiple kangs from across the multiverse just makes me think of a baddie with multiple lives, it just doesnât excite me to have seen 2 kang variants be easily disposed off, one by just allowing it, and the other he dies because the plot demanded it.
@@cruzinthruspace bruh did you not watch the movie? hes the strongest kang lol
@@megatoto9468 thanks actually for that spoiler he cant or should never be defeated just like thanos disappointing
When OJ called muscle lady "death by snu snu" I spit my drink, completely hilarious, best quote in the whole review.
For an Ant-Man film this is exactly what I was expecting. I enjoyed it, however my expectations were never high going in to see this to begin with. Light years better than Love and Thunder and Eternals. Canât wait to see the range of Jonathan Majors in his endless roles as Kang.
Yep
It is a shame that the MCU's winning streak has been starting to fall apart. Maybe not surprising after Endgame, but still a shame to see, especially since despite everything there's still...a few things I'm excited about with the future of the MCU. Hope they notice and this movie was just too far done to be improved all that much. It does stand out to me there's a big break after the Marvels, hope those 2024 movies get the time they need to come out great.
they aren't evolving. their formula went from novel to cliche. we, the audience, have evolved and matured in our tastes and Marvel simply can't keep (it) up
MsheU
But the earlier phases have meh movies too. Iron Man 2 was basically 1 and Iron Man 3 got retconned by Infinity War/Endgame. Captain America first Avengers was ok. Thor 2 was eh. My favorite Doctor Strange moments were not in his movies. We're seeing the same formula so many times that we have reached "Origin" fatigue. It's a shame we will be trapped with several more phases of Origin stories before we get another team movie
I have only watched No Way Home since Endgame. Marvel isn't flogging a dead horse any more; it's making soup from its bones, freezing it, only to obliterate it again with a sledgehammer.
Starting to?
Don't know what ppl expect. All the heavy hitters like RDJ and Chris Evans are done.
Exactly, there's nobody to carry the torch anymore
yeah, mcu really died with ironman
When are they going to relise the b team just ain't going to cut it.
@@22e62ab They're tryna introduce the young avengers like anyone is gonna care about them, lmao
This movie is missing Michael peña
Marvel doesn't need a comedian anymore when all the heroes become a comedian...
Wait this is the first movie in Phase 5? I did not know that. đ§
It was supposed to be the end of phase 4 but they change it
I bet if they had made KANG Gay and Antman's daughter a Lesbian...Hollywood critics would have given it a much higher score.đź
I havenât watched it yet but my suspicions sound true that the internet hyped up kang too much
you mean the pro marvel press? all you here them do is hype every movie, even Thor and thunder got hyped to hell with them just to turn out to be a bad movie coming of Thor 3
itâs true he was good in this movie till the 3rd act then he got bested by some ridiculous shit lol
The Quantum city and Kang should have been elaborated in way greater depth, with more lore and more diverse setpieces. The rumor says the film has a lot of cut material that did not fit with the pg13 btw. Kang is somewhat portrayed as a blue bubblegum Thanos and is way underwhelming as a menacing threat atm.
Spoilers- Man, I Loved this film especially the fight between Antman/ Wasp vs Kang. I like how the Ants fought Kang too. Their survival depended on him getting free too. However, I think they toned down Kang because I think he would demolish those ants if it wasn't for Modok. Kang never flinched when those ants showed up. He was truly terrifying when Janet stole his core. His rage WOW.
I feel you Alex. Itâs called over saturation and Marvel has struggled with it for a while now. Downhill since Infinity War
What people don't understand is the subtlety of threats, the quiet ones.
Can also.
Is an overpop.
As you see, it's not simply him, but it a massive amount of him.
I think the problem is the scale of the story. Like you guys mentioned, the single hero stories do better when they're fighting for lower stakes, it fits better when they're fighting a villain that they're connected too, Ant-Man fighting for the sake of the universe by himself doesn't work. It's an Avengers level threat
Doctor strange did good tho he basically saved everything against Dormamomu
I think people truly want to believe in their heads that Jonathan Majors is this awesome actor.
What a lot of people donât know if heâs a new actor, relatively green. he started acting later in life. in an interview, he said he started acting about five years ago.
When I saw Loki season one, I was completely blown away, and then I was a little bit disappointed when I saw he who remainsâŠ
Iâm a big marvel fan but I didnât know who Kang was.
Kang is pretty simplistic. He is a time traveler that wants to conquer. what villain doesnât want to conquer the word & now the vast multiverse?
If you want me to believe in this villain, he needs to be more complex than just a conqueror.
So where do I begin with Ant-man quantum mania?
I loved all the ant Man films, theyâre lighthearted, corky, funny and uplifting. Who doesnât love an underdog story?
In Ant-man Quantamania, there are times where jokes are funny, and their times where jokes are inappropriate at inappropriate times when things are supposed to be more serious.
You have Hankâs wife Janet, who is terrified of the quantum realm yet an ant man, too. She was totally fine with Scott Lang going into the quantum realm before they blipped..
Fast forward to Ant-man quantum mania Janet is completely terrified of the quantum realm, she doesnât want to talk about the quantum realm or what she has been through.
To make a long story short, Janet talks about how horrific Kang the conqueror is, once they go to the quantum realm. Everyone that lives there talks the big talk about how scary and conniving Kang is.
Finally, when we get to meet Kang the conquer
At first, he is very serious, and he does seem like somewhat of a threat. He has high technology and can kill you with just conjuring his hands.
It took kAng 50 minutes to show up.
Fast forward to the battles with Kang to get out of the quantum realm without him he is EASILY defeated. If a whole bunch of ants & Ant Man can defeat him how is he a threat? His powers where inconsistent, at first, he seemed very powerful, and then at the end his powers were very ineffective.
You could tell Jonathan Majors was trying his very best at what he was given, but I feel the writers were a tad bit lazy. In this movie, they explain things to you, but they donât show you.
Murdoch is in this film yellow jacket from first Ant Man Kang uses him as the âultimate killing machineâ heâs a big floating head with baby arms and baby legs. The fact that Kang can be around something so stupid makes me less intrigued by him.
Remember, Thor love and thunder? It felt like a parody of Thor.. Where is Thor was just one big joke? Then you have an awesome actor like Christian Bale that has a very dark and complex character that you want to enjoy and love, but doesnât fit in the movie because itâs a silly parody?
Thatâs what happens in this film.
Donât get me wrong I like Jonathan Majors, but the introduction of Kang has fumbled twice.
He was easily killed in Loki & easily defeated in Ant man.
& we are supposed to be scared of him In loki season 2? Secret wars? Kang dynasty? Come on.
I guess if you shut your brain off and you grabbed some popcorn and didnât think too hard I can see how this movie is enjoyable for some people, but Iâve always loved marvel and their amazing story telling, and their story arcs that all beautifully intertwine with one another.
This was a very weak and strange way to kick off phase 5.
END CREDIT SCENES
So when someone tells you that thereâs an end credit scene with a council of Kangs it sounds cool right?
When I first saw it, I was in disbelief, you have Jonathan Majors playing king tut kang, scarlet cyborg Kang and I forgot the other kang he had cheap blue paint on his face and sounded like he smoked 20 packs of newports a day.
Then you see a trillion other kangs come to the council of Kangs from every possible multiverse and theyâre all howling like monkeys from planet of the apes! It felt like an SNL sketch rather than something that is supposed to instill fear into our hearts.
it shocked me the way they portrayed Kang in this movie. Like inconsistent. Kevin Feige what the hell is happening?? Just wildly inconsistent storytelling and narrative crafting
@@breakfastenjoyer I know you donât give a Rick and Morty riders the keys to the multi-verse kingdom.
Hire the Russo brothers back.
Kang wants to conquer?
What villain doesnât?
To make him a threat he needs to be more complex than ur average villain
I just wanted to see it to see Kang stump Ant man in the head like in the trailer lmao.
Lol dats one part of da movie dat might live up to your expectations đ the trailer didnât do the stomps Justice . In the movie he was stomping df out of him đ
Biggest mistake Disney made was not taking a break of a few years with the MCU after the Infinity Saga. A break would have allowed people to cool off and then come back refreshed and ready for more. But of course Disney only saw $$$
I would have had Casey bond with her Grandparents trying to reopen the Quantum Realm. Wasp would have been trying to get to Ant-man and learning more about her Mother's hidden past with Kang etc. Then have Ant-Man role remain largely the same. I would have had Wasp and Ant-Man sacrifice themselves to prevent Kang from escaping when Casey opens the Quantum gate.
*STARTING* to see the formula? they've made the same movie 3-5x/year for 14 years đ
Haven't watched an MCU movie since Thor4 but love watching the light dim from Joe's eyes as it all gets worse
Isnt thor 4 was one of the last mcu movie
Thor 4?
So likeâŠ3 months ago?
So you didnât watch their Wakanda Forever review where they liked it quite a bit
Thor 4 in my list is at the bottom and will remain there forever.
@@py16667 Thor Love and Thunder was the last straw for me to make me avoid Marvel films for a while. It left a bad taste and felt fatigue from the MCU
The most disappointing was the ending could have nailed it better
We wouldnât still be getting unthought out crap if people werenât eating up the previous messses. Wanda, Loki, Shang, Moon, Eternals, Spidey 3 (fan service nonsense), etc⊠all bad writing, directing, decisions, and execution.
Scott got rid of the only good Kang. The only Kang that could stop all the kangs.
GG.
I hope the guy that came up with "Quantumania" as a title gets fired..... out of a trebuchet
QuANTuMANia. Never got it til the end credits lol
Got myself one of those manscaped shavers you're always advertising on here. Almost immediately knicked my ball. Blood absolutely everywhere. Came out nice though. đ
yea my buddy also has the manscaped thing too, he used it and knicked his sack to way too many times, he recommends anything but the manscaped shaver.
That manscaped is real đ no f'n way
I've also heard and saw many reviews that thing will fk u up
@@DR.DisInfect yeah dude it's in most big box stores. Found it at target
@Max Kikin thing cut well but if you're not careful it bites!
'It's better than eternals' the best compliment for this movie
It's not fatigue per say, it's the writing has gotten bad and lazy. I highly recommend everyone rewatch Iron Man 1, Thor 1, Captain America First Avenger, and Avengers 1. You can see a big difference how things were under Paramount.
Honestly I just come to this channel for Alex at this point. He's consistent. Joe CANNOT Praise The Last of Us and then nitpick this bc he turned his Critic mode on. The movie was amazing. Yes some aspects overshadowed the small back and forth drama without really pushing why Janet was so scared of Kang other than that 10 seconds montage.
I think 6 is generous but I hope it gets better from here. The MCU has been formulaic and down lately. Hopefully it gets better. Props to Johnathan majors
YepâŠ.
It won't, just like their comic books. Only downhill, as it has been.
The only saving grace this year will be Guardians. Marvels will be trash 100%
6.5/10
Bill Murray shouldâve been modok
I think based on the viewer feedback plus yourselves, I think I'm going to save my money and wait for it to appear on Disney+. Thank you again angry army đ
All I needed to know is that it's a typical Marvel film: *bad.*
The MCU really did die with Robert Downey Jr. and Chris Evans leaving the projects.
R.I.P. Marvel; you had a good ten years.
Amazing how many teenage girls in the MCU have greater engineering talents than Tony Stark.
This really felt like a Kang Origins movie in disguise.
100% agree. Kang will come back as Dr Doom variant and introduce the fantastic 4. I think he'll play a couple of different variants in different movies, each one growing stronger than the last.
That was kinda Loki final episode
Kang being a doom variant would be garbage hope that doesn't happen
This is almost as bad as Thor: Love and Thunder
No it is not what u smoking
@JacktheRipper650 I want what your smoking if your brain cells are dead enough to enjoy this movie.
No it wasn't dumbass it was epic
Worse mcu movie ever Worse dcu movie too
@TigerMacc That's a huge stretch my dude. Sure it's not great but it's not as bad as Thor 4.
The MCU has really gone down the drain since Endgame. Not surprising but still pretty disappointing especially considering how the "post-Endgame" era had a pretty promising start with WandaVision, Loki and No Way Home
You guys talked alot about Kang....I thought the movie was called Antman? Sad he is not the main thing to talk about in a movie called ANTMAN
I think Marvel needs more movies that arenât connected to this universe. Full budget movies that arenât venom or morbius, that donât have to follow along the super complicated narrative we have. Just my opinion
This was just uploaded as my movie ended and waiting on the after credits scenes!
As always, Alex is on point and couldnât have said it better myself. I mostly watch these reviews now to see what Alex thinks. Joe is usually on the same boat as Alex but heâs a bit nicer
Agreed with everything you guys are saying, this one was definitely one you should just wait for it to come to Disney+, it's very bland imo
This was supposed to be Kang's introduction as the main big bad guy of Phase 5 and I didn't feel his threat like Thanos before.
Thanos was introduced being a lazy cunt in avengers , Kang got a better introduction than thanos did
@@sirarnoldgrylls6553 I meant official introduction, Thanosâs official intro was Infinity War and that was badass (GotG 1 I guess too, but there no one wanted to mess with him), but this Kang got beat by some fuckin Ants and Antman
@@robotpenguin6606 tbh they were some powerful ants. They had been training and learning/building for 2000 years of some shit like that. but very true
@@ejodh0826 insects save the day in this movie?
@@noincomprehensible3849 yep they do
Endgame was where the Marvel/Superhero Bubble burst. The golden age is over.
Thanks for proving to me why i dont really need to concern myself with other peoples opinions on movies. I liked this movie. Maybe im a layman or whatever, but i had fun and enjoyed seeing scott get to be a hero again. And 2 hours is long? In a world where we binge a whole season of a show in one sitting? đ
I was already gonna wait for Disney+ on this one, this just further solidifies that decision
I just walked out of this movie. And ended up deciding to watch th last 10 min online. I was not impressed
I walked out and didn't care about end
I'm not surprised I thought the cgi looked like a video game
@TigerMacc How weak of you to bail out at the last 10 minutes. Thatâs pathetic.
You still gave them your money.
@achaudhari101 lol. I didn't know where I was in the film I hated it so much. Only after I walked out I learned exactly how long the movie had left
lol. we just finished the movie. watching this later
Movie was easily a 7, maybe an 8. Honestly the only criticism I agree with here is that the mom (Janet) not telling anyone anything about the dangers down in the quantum realm was such a heavy plot requirement that is did stick out as just bad writing. The acting was great, the movie was fun and it was exactly what you would expect from an Antman movie.
The MCU ended in Endgame
Tony didn't save the universe, Thanos won and what we seeing now a fever dream that Tony is living cause he is being kept alive and Thanos is just torturing him
I liked the movie it had creative visuals stuff I hadn't seen before my only problem with the movie is it's lack of tension from kang I never felt stressed at any time but other than that I had fun as a one time viewing for this Ant Man movie I like Paul Rudd alot as Ant Man I just felt the film made really lazy choices
Jonathan majors doin dope things man
I'm so checked out of MCU movies that this review is the first time I am aware there was a new MCU movie
They really depowered Kang. And this is coming from someone that has only seen him on Avengers Earth Mightiest heroes where he mops the floor with the team most of the time. And by the time he was defeated he conquered 3/4 of the planet
Paul Rudd deserves better than this pathetic excuse of a movie. Iâm done with marvel.
Iâm genuinely looking more forward to the Sony Spiderman Universe than I am to MCU
Suddenly the james gunn dcu is way more interesting than the upcoming mcu phases
I really liked it! I had a lot of fun with it and tbh I had no issue with the MODOK CGI.
Same
OJ's face says it all when the video starts
âYou can miss this and be perfectly fineâ sounds like a lot of superhero films now
a lot of films in general now*
Also hi Pat, will you do more guess the song challenges
Kang is not a compelling villain so far....he is way too hyped! Some scenes just fell flat.
In my mind so far it is Thanos, Killmonger, Ulyses Klaus, Hela and Ronan the accuser as my top 5 MCU villians!