2021 Build Guide - Apple Carplay & Android Auto for Saab 9-3 ICM3 Radio Modification Open Auto Pro
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- čas přidán 10. 05. 2021
- This is the install guide for the self-build ICM3 kit.
To see it installed here - • Using the Saab 9-3 ICM...
In a nutshell, it adds a touch screen with the latest navigation and all associated features, direct access to Spotify / Deezer / CZcams Music or whatever compatible music app you use, and Bluetooth hands-free calling. This is thanks to Bluwave's awesome software, Open Auto Pro.
*Your phone must be compatible with wireless Android Auto or Apple Carplay. That's an iPhone 7 or newer, or *most Android phones running Android 11.0 or newer
Aux cable install • Android ICM3 - Revisio...
I no longer supply these self-build kits.
You can get Open Auto Pro software here:
bluewavestudio.io/ - **Use Coupon " saabunleashed " for a discount**
And the screen I use is available on Aliexpress here:
s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DBa... - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Incredible !!! Thanks a lot for this big job for the community ! You re awesome Stuart !
Great video Stuart, I can’t wait to get mine. Thanks 😊
Bravo! Your system and video are brilliant! Thanks for bringing my 15 yr old 9-3SC into the third decade of this century.
Love your work mate
I wish this was a thing when I had my '03 9-3ss. Super cool mod, love keeping the OEM look.
I finally scored a used ICM3, and I plan to tackle this mod before long. Thank you so much for putting all this together! I also like Leo fernandez fandiño's suggested improvements and will probably give them a try. I'm also thinking I may try to figure out how to wire into the car's existing microphone, rather than adding a new visibly protruding one.
Great video, can't wait to bring my very in to the digital age, many thanks.
Wow, great video.
Really good, thanks
Simple as that!
Yes indeed 😆
I’d love to fit to my 9-3. But it’s a little too involved for my basic skill set unfortunately.
Great instructional vid tho!
Thank you!
So great that you have made this. Are they still available?
Great work! Very nice Stuart 👍👍. I have a question though: I might be wrong but I think that some links to the items you need to put together are outdated? Could you perhaps tell us how to bench test the system so that you can test at least the video?
Hi mate, this is an awesome job!
I've done it and it's working 90% perfect, thank you very much!
I still need to make a case for the components (they are in the glovebox, but it's a mess), install a delayed relay to keep the raspberry pi on for 1-2 minutes after I turn off the ignition and install a power/reset button.
My only concern is that I find the screen too dark, during daytime it's extremely hard to see it (during the night is perfect). I've checked brightness options in openauto pro and the brightness is set at 100% (but I can't regulate it, I'm not sure if there is any other option to control the brightness or this is normal)
Thank you for your help! Now I'm always listening Spotify in the car!
i just got a saab 93 and i was really looking ofrward to doing this on my car
Amazing transformation!! Brillant!! I have the ICM3 in my 2006 Saab Aero Convertible. Do you also do the mod by sending you the unit?
Hi Stuart. I have made some changes to your project. I have put LineageOS 19 (Android 12L) as the operating system, Sound Blaster g3 sound card (the sound has improved a lot due to the auxiliary input, in addition to all the audio modifications that can be made). And as home screen: Agama car launcher, along with: Guru Car launcher. And independent GPS U-blox7 connected directly to the Raspberry. In addition to the Autokit connection with Carplay and Android Auto. The result has left me satisfied. Greetings.
Very interesting. I may have to make a video on this. I've currently been trialling an actual Android box (instead of a Pi) because it has GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi and all the toys already installed, although it's a tad on the slow side. How quick is the Pi running Android?
@@SaabUnleashed Using a Micro SDXC - SanDisk Extreme PLUS, 64 GB, it responds instantly, without any delays.
@@escuelitadelbuc And load times for apps such as Spotify and Waze?
@@SaabUnleashed With Spotify and Waze or any other App, the answer is immediate (But the micro sd has to be fast) At no time do you feel that Android is running on a Raspberry Pi
I love these suggestions and may well give them a try!
Cool! Thx
Really great work Stuart ! Do we place the screen as you said on bottom left , so the power cable of the monitor can pass or is it any other reason aswell ?
Its for the power and HDMI cable access as you say
For anyone wondering where you can get the aux cable that goes into the EHU, it would seem the opel zafira aux cable is identical, so i'm going to try that for my build. It was the last missing piece, i haven't been able to reach Stu about his cables.
Incredible yes, but I' ve been stubborn, thought to do it myself, not reading all your comments and bought obviously the wrong screen, the AMOLED. Could you please give a link to a better 5.5 screen. Further, I see all the touch screens have 3 connectors: power, video and touch. As you dont connect to the power connector, do I understand it in the right way that the touch connector also delivers power to the screen?
great explanation. However I have seen that the Open Auto Pro software comes online for an SD card. where do i get the cable kit and raspberry pi board? Thank you
Hi Stuart, I’m reading through these comments and I was wondering, do you think you could make a short video, possible with a list of parts, for a potentially updated conversion so that we could source the parts ourselves for this amazing conversion you made widely known? Would be a massive help to see if anything is updated before I jump into this.
+1. Would be massively appreciated!
+1
+1
5 months later and we’re still waiting
How about rear camera? Do you have any idea how to do it and what to buy?
Good luck finding an icm 3
Trying to get more info on how to get parts to do this on my 06 9-3
Great Video! How did you determine which size lcd screen you needed and which brand did you end up choosing?
Nevermind I should have read the description before asking. Thanks for listing everything we need!
Hello, first of all thanx for this great video. I own a Saab with ICM3 which has even navigation from factory. So my question is: if I install your system I will lose my factory navigation,right? Since I will replace the original screen with your screen am guessing that will happen. Anyway, thank you once again for this great video. Best regards to you.
I assembled this project in my ICM3 with screen you have proposed. How did you configurate the brightness control? Because with this screen I can not decrease the brightness in Open Auto pro
Would it be possible to do the same thing with the original 6 inch Saab nav unit?
will i still need to setup the icm3 with the tech2 if upgrading from say an icm1 or icm2?
Is there any original functionality that is lost after the conversion?
May I ask about the car play adapter ? Once Click on the link it states it as an android adapter? Is it the same device for both ?
Can yo do the same video for saab 9-3 2008-2012 head unit please?
Hi Stuart, I ordered the screen from your link and it displays upside down, I have rotated the image but I am having trouble rotating the the touchscreen do you have any advice that would help please.
Thanks
Hi I’m after my icm3 upgraded how can send it to you to upgrade it
Hi Stuart, I just became the proud owner of a 2005 Saab 9-3 convertible and I am exploring option to improve the Multimedia solutions. Pricing details don't seem to be in the video (anymore) or it simply does not show here. It would be great if you can share here. thanks
Hi Stuart, does this work for a US 2010 Saab 9-3x, with OnStar, without Infotainment Plus?
Where do you get the screen form on what size is it
Where can I get an aux wire like the one at 18:50? Also, does the flat hdmi cable, screen power/touchscreen wire come with the screen from Aliexpress?
Hello, amazing job on this modification! You really saved pre-facelift owners. One question: can this work for ICM2 units? If not, what would be needed to upgrade ICM2 to ICM3? (Besides the ICM3 itself).
Generally speaking, ICM3s are plug and play, but it depends on the features of your car. For example, if you have reverse sensors, but the car you took the ICM3 from did not, then you will no longer work unless you switch them back on using a Tech2. If you check my channel, you will see I have ICM2 mods
@@SaabUnleashed Thank you very much!
Hi, is it possible to do it as well on the grundig radio with bigger screen? Is there any limitation to fit the radios?
hi! does anyone know where to shop this set? thanks
Hi Stu I wanted to order one of these but your website is no longer available
where can i order all the supporting modifications, i dont have any of the other adapters. only the screen and open auto pro programming. please let me know as ive looked everywhere
Does it improve stereo quality though?
Stock audio is trash tbh
Hi, how to purchase this upgrade? Thanks
How has this system held up over the years?
I have a 2003 Saab 9-3 and I would love to get the kit to turn my icm3 into apple/android car play…where do I get everything I need to make this possible in my car or do I send my radio to in order for them to do the same?
Hi brilliant to watch someone make something so technical look so easy. Where can i purchase this great bit of kit pls for my 2006 saab 9-3. Jeff.
Hey Jeff, email stu@saabunleashed.com
@SaabUnleashed could you please show us from where to buy all the parts? It’s a pity that you don’t create these kits anymore😢.
Hi Stuart ,
How much are these kits?
I wanna build something like this but for the 07 plus facelift dash. I know there’s many double dins out there. But I want the most factory looking deck I can get. And now seeing this I know it’s possible.
There's plenty of decent looking head units out there. Factory looks normally have a few more physical buttons. There are options out there
@@SaabUnleashed there really isn’t though. Everything is so flashy and just not tasteful and everything I like is too big for the car. I had an sphda120 hated that it had no volume or tuning knob and the touchscreen died 😆 but it atleast sounded solid.
@@austinralf5150 I see where you're coming from. You could always get a stock unit and change out the internals for a decent Android unit :)
@@SaabUnleashed if I were to attempt this with the 07+ nav unit, would the volume controls and everything still work? I would I have to program all that to work?
@@austinralf5150 think about it this way - if you just buy and install an aftermarket android unit directly, you will retain the wheel controls and gain loads of new features.
So what you're looking at doing with this modification it's actually very simple in theory. Take the components out of both the stock head unit and the Android one, and swap them.
Of course, the buttons on the front of the stock unit will just be for show after the conversion.
What about 5.1, 7.1 sound, dolby?
hi , can someone tell me the dimensionsdimensions of the screen? is it 5.5- 6- or 7 inches? thanks
Hi, great video. Ive got a 2005 93 estate with an ICM3. Do you sell these kits or do i need to search for the individual components. Thanks
Check the video description
Are you still gonna hear the blinkers and get pops ups from notification like lights that don't work
Yes because this is still the original ICM unit. It's just got a replacement screen
This really great stuff. The ICM 3 in my 2005 9-3 Convertible has more and more issues - the "normal" state is now that it doesn't start up but ends up in an endless restart loop :-( Has anyone recently implemented this interesting modification? I struggle to find the "shopping list" - have mailed Stu couple of times but never received a response so far.
Would it be possible to send you an icm3 an you do the modifications an send it back?
And if so how much would it be?
Awesome work by the way
Agreeed how much??
How do I order the Android kit for the ICM2?
Hi Stuart, i am from US where can I order your kit that includes the icm3 unit itself? So basically when you turn on the car when you just use only the radio you only rely the details on the sid above dashboard? Addon Backup camera and dashcam would be excellent.
I can't supply the ICM3 I'm afraid. You would have to acquire one. The system is compatible with a backup camera but one doesn't currently exist, I'm actually looking into that
Hey, for the screen in your link, did you use the AMOLED or the TFT panel? Which do you recommend?
Get the TFT one, the AMOLED one is a nightmare to set up, plus OLED screen burns easier.
Hi...i live in the uk ....if i came to you would you supply and fit for android ?? or anyone in the uk that can do it
Excellent video, what screen did you use for this update? Is this strictly an apple upgrade?
Link to the screen is in the video description. It's for Apple and Android
@@SaabUnleashed watched the video again and didn't see any link, please can you list the parts for this upgrade, much appreciated.
@@reginaldigweike4002the parts list is in the video description, not the video itself :)
@@SaabUnleashed thanks got it now...
This is FPC tape?
Hello! Great work! May be, one day, i’ll made the same system :)
By the way, is it possible to buy yours lcd screen from yours ICM3?
I do have a screen available if you still need
Hi Stuart. Brilliant mate. Can I just clarify, does this render the radio/multi-CD/inbuilt phone/AUX inoperative? Does it mean all the ICM3 buttons and steering wheel ICM3 controls are therefore redundant?
Is there any way to retain FM & CD functionality? Nav & Phone functionality are replaced of course, but is the intention to use the Pie for DAB somehow, & to just stream music via Spotify or whatever?
I’m in Northampton BTW…
Martin, the full functionality of the original systems remain. The ICM3 itself is still intact, we've just removed the screen. CD player, radio, steering controls ect all still work. This unit works through the aux-in of the stock system, so you will lose the Aux socket - but you shouldn't need it any more anyway.
@@SaabUnleashed Cheers Stuart. So the display doesn't work for the ICM3, but sound does. Controlling the CD/FM would be interesting (with no display), but I guess we have the SID..? Assume that still works fine?
Guess we just select AUX to get Pie sound, otherwise that's lost?
@@MartinDBaker yes the radio stations and Cd tracks show on the SID so you can still see everything. The only thing that would be interesting is changing the balance and fade
@@SaabUnleashed One more quick question for you mate: how many phones can you pair to CarPlay on the Pie? Just the one?
Hi mate, is this still the best solution to upgrade an ID3?
The configuration above is not stable in the navigation mode. Apple Carplay stops at the moment Google Maps or Iphone Maps screen is on. any suggestions for HDMI settings? (I use openauto pro release 16.0). The forum on Openauto Pro didn't bring me further
I'd suggest you rebuild the card image because this works fine
how do you solve the shutdown situation? i mean just pull the key fob off, with no "off" from the touchscreen. any timer relay or something?
After some hours of searching and viewing, there are addon boards that you can get with "Auto on & Safe shutdown" features.
Some use lithium batteries and other a direct connection to the battery.
Hello, is it possible to receive FM(FM) transmitters and DAB/DAB+ transmitters after the conversion? How is the CD player operated?
Please check czcams.com/video/JnONC2zZYGM/video.html
Hello. I have done following your steps the assembly and renovation of my icm3. Everything works perfectly. The only drawback is that it does not allow you to modify the volume. It's like it's stuck. Since you have done countless assemblies, I would appreciate your help on what could be the problem? Greetings and thanks.(Sorry for my english)
The volume is not moving up or down? What about with the steering wheel controls?
I've never heard of that before. I'd check to see if you have pulled not put the ribbon cables back for the face of the ICM3, or if you have accidentally pulled the ribbons from inside the metal box
@@SaabUnleashed Thank you for answering so quickly. The volume is heard very low. It cannot be raised or lowered with the steering wheel controls, nor with the volume knob on the Icm3. It is as if the function has been blocked. I am going to verify that the cables are correctly placed, (also inside the metal box) Thanks for your help.
Sir, I am driving a SAAB 93 convertible in Korea. I happened to see your video. I am using ICM3. Is there a way to purchase the kit you made? I'm always worried because Apple Car Play doesn't work.
Hello I just found openAuto and by additional seaching including SAAB I found your project. I was dreaming of something like this but never thought it would be possible. I have a 9-3 SC from 2006, but I think I have to find out it it has the ICM3 unit. (it looks equal). Working through your list I found that the display is currently not available. Ist there any alternative?
I have contacted them
Is GPS USB modul not needed?
Is gps works well when phone is in pocket or backpack without any add GPS to RPi?
Your phones gps should work fine anywhere in your car
Come posso avere il kit comleto
Awesome work, Stuart. Congratulations.
Could you tell me how many inches is the screen? A five-inch would do? Greetings and thanks.
Not really, this is a 5.5 and it's too small, you wouldn't want to go smaller
My 2004 Saab 93 doesn't have an aux. Will I need a tech2 for turn on the aux to do this project?
No. If you install an ICM3, it enables the aux by default
Why do you add bluetooth as it is built into the raspberry anyway?
The Pi's built-in Bluetooth capability is incompatible
Anyway to adjust the display scaling?
Yes for Android Auto / Apple CarPlay scaling is built into Open Auto Pro
Amazing job! Are there any specifics to consider concerning the Raspberry Pi, the new screen and such?
Needs to be a Pi 4b, 2gb is fine. The screen needs to be the non led variation. Links are in the video description
@@SaabUnleashed Thanks for the swift reply. I noticed that you did not use any form of heat control for the Pi. Many starter kits do mention/ use heatsinks or vents. What is your take on this?
@@r.r.visser4156 this is a very important point. Any kits I put together now have heatsinks and fans.
@@SaabUnleashed Got it! You also remove the high voltage wires that provide power for the fibre optics. Does this not interfere with the car's performance (e.g. not starting and such)?
@@r.r.visser4156 they're nothing to do with the fibre optics, they powered the mini florescent tubes that lit up the screen. And obviously this mod doesn't impact the ability to start the car, it has been implimented by many at this point
Hi I would like to buy 1 unit for my saab 93 convertible 2004
Hi Stuart,
I got the whole set as listed about 1,5 - 2years ago.
Had to pause the project for numerous reasons. But now want to finish it.
I have not yet assembled it but connected all parts and used a telephone adapter as power supply.
It works although I get a warning for low voltage.
I have a few questions:
How do I get that need Saab logo on my start-up screen?
How do I update the OpenAuto-Pro 13.2 software?
The Raspberry Pi does not seem to find my CarPlay dongle. Is there something I’m not seeing?
Looking forward to your solutions 😊
Sounds like you have some incompatible parts. The power supply isn't meeting the 3amps the Pi needs, sounds like you're also using an incompatible Carplay adaptor. You need to do a few Linux commands in the terminal for the logo, Bluewave will support you with that on their forums
Thank you so much for you answer..
Okay. I got rid of the low voltage by using heavier cables.
I also got a new CarPlay dongle (Carlinkit) but it is still not recognised by Pi. Even when wired to my iPhone.
But it does appear in the Bluetooth list on my phone. Am I doing something wrong?
Also do I need to update Auto Pro? Please advise?
Very interesting video how much do you charge for this service?
It's a self build kit. The prices are in the video description
Dumb question. Do I plug in the saab radio cable as well?
Yep, this kit relies on the full function of the original equipment
Which lcd screens work? From which phones?
Not from any phone
i did everything in the vid, i pair my phone to open-autopro but i don't see the car link bluetooth. do you need to install apk or something to get it to work?
please advise!
You need an additional licence for open auto Pro and if it still doesn't work, you probably have an incompatible carlinkkit
Hello! I have an ICM 2 as an original head unit on my 9-3
I just found an icm 3,on a good shape and even better price and I just bought it. I wonder if I"m going to loose any features of my vehicle by upgrading from icm2 to icm 3
Is the parking assistant going to be still available, after the update? Am I going to be able to use the steering wheal buttons after the upgrade?
Are there any disadvantages by updating from icm2 to icm3?
Thank you so much in advance, have a wonderful 2023
With regards to the parking assistance, it depends if the donor car had this feature. If not, it won't work, but it can easily be switched back on with a Tech2. You won't lose anything, but obviously the navigation ect won't work because you don't have the other required components. It would be a good candidate for the modification upgrade
@@SaabUnleashed thank you so much for the immediate response.
After the upgrade am I still going to be able to use your kit?
On other videos you have updated,I noticed that in order to "bring" the sound from the new kit, you have to switch the "disc" to auxiliary.But on my factory settings on icm2,I have no auxiliary option. (only disc(cd) and radio)
I wonder, if it is possible to use your kit though with my new icm3 and how can I skip the auxiliary thing.
Thanks again, in advance!
@@tasenFTW you will automatically gain aux mode with the installation of the ICM3, so it'll be fine
@@SaabUnleashed Thank you so much again!I need to mention that u do amazing job here .I never knew that this could be possible.Thanks for all this fantastic information you share with us! The job you have done is really tremendous for any Saab owner
hello, i'm from portugal, i want to put the android auto on my icm 3, where can i buy the parts to upgrade?
Check the video description
Can you build one for me?
Hello! Wonderful job - I am preparing to build my own. Two questions though:
1. What happens when you simply turn the engine off? Does Raspberry instantaneously "die"? If yes, isn't that a problem?
2. How does it act while driving at night? I mean, is there a built-in sensor in the screen that will automatically dim it? The same actually applies for driving on a very sunny day - is it possible to see anything with this TFT screen?
Great questions.
1. Yes, the Pi dies the second the ignition power source is removed. It would be bad if it was running something that is constantly writing to the card, as it could cause corruption. As this is not the case, it is merely streaming remotely from your phone, it'll be fine. (And is fine, plenty of people are running it at this point)
2. There is no sensor I'm afraid, it won't automatically dim at night. The screen is visible during sunlight. There's a in-use video on my channel
This is a basic custom job and you are free to add additional features to your own build should you want to
Will it work in Saab 9-3 2004? Does the substitution have to be programmed?
ICM3 navigation units were only available between 2003-2006. And as this is a kit to modify a unit you already have, there is no substitution so no programming is required.
Unfortunately Wisecoco, manufacturer of this screen has replaced the LCD version with OLED and they don't sell them anymore. Is there any particular reason not to use OLED screen? Why won't it work?
The new OLED screen is fine. The old on used to display only in portrait mode unless you programmed it to re-orient to landscape mode. The new one defaults to landscape and has the connections in exactly the samee place, so it's fine to use
@@SaabUnleashed thanks a lot for prompt answer. I will finally be attempting to make this mod for my Saab. All the best to you Stuart, you're doing an amazing work!
Can this be made with rock pi 4, or some alternative ? So hard to get sn raspberry pi atm, and didnt find anyone doing android auto systems with something else than raspberry pi 3 or 4. Any ideas ?
The developers are looking to make the software compatible with RP alternatives
Okay 👌🏻 Can you use raspberry pi4's own bluetooth for this, or do you still need the bluetooth dongle ?
@@rauski691 you must use third party Bluetooth
Hello! I would like to complete a build like this. The links to the items on eBay do not appear to work. I tried to reach out through your email but that did not seem to go through. Would you have anywhere to point me? Any help is appreciated.
Hi Marcus, I don't know where you're sending emails, but I haven't recieved any from you. The email address is stu@saabunleashed.com
I try to use a 5.0 bluetooth dongle. I can not make the connection between the phone and the Rpi via bluetooth. It is due to the 5.0 dongle or is the something else?
Use the specific dongle that I listed. I can't be sure on the compatibility of all dongles. Alternatively, you can ask the question on the bluewave forum
changed to 4.0, S A71, Huawei manage to see each other, but without pairing (couldn't pair). S10 not even manage to connect. by type C cable everything is ok, except phone call. additionally, i do not manage to connect the raspberry to wifi
The app needs a specific Bluetooth chip to play. That’s why it has to be CRS 4.0
I have an aux cable. I want to replace it to be sure the sounds quality does not have noise. How would I get one from you? And how do you download open auto properly so the raspberry pi functions correctly?
There are instructions in their site (BlueWave) for that. You just download one application and the bin file and you run the application point to the bin file it it creates a bootable microSD.
@@IOANNISVATIKIOTIS I got this running properly currently now thank you
What aux cable did you use after all? Do you have noise ?
Im gonna use the one that came with my car that I previously had installed once before
Does this build allow you to have a custom SAAB boot screen or it’s not possible?
It does have a Saab logo. Have a look at czcams.com/video/JnONC2zZYGM/video.html
@@SaabUnleashed I’ve managed to get a decent ICM3 and interested in trying this out
I need one
Details are in the description
We're I can buy the screen from for my icme
All details are in the video description
@@SaabUnleashed thanks for that mate
which saabs uses icm3?
9-3s built between 2003 and 2006