They Should've NEVER LET The Warriors Trade For Andrew Wiggins
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Andrew Wiggins is resurrecting his career right before our eyes… The Golden State Warriors’ small forward may not be putting up 50 a night like his teammate Steph Curry, but he’s providing the aggression, the rim attacking that the Warriors need, on a day to day basis… He’s not a superstar, but he’s exactly what the Warriors need… Tune in for the whole story…
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They Should've NEVER LET The Warriors Trade For Andrew Wiggins: • They Should've NEVER L...
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How important has Andrew Wiggins been to the Warriors HOT START?
He is important for the team. He improve year to the year
Very
Crucial! He has the height, the skillset...all he needs is the aggressiveness he has shown vs his old team--in every game.
Let's not forget how key Andre Iguodala is. When Klay comes back, Andre knows very well how to play with the Splash Brothers; Andrew hasn't experienced that, yet.
Do you guys notice that who ever draft or traded to warriors are always gain an improvement?
Anyone else liking this team more than the 2016 Warriors? When Durant joined I knew we were unstoppable but for some reason I feel more attached to this team. I have been liking every single player on our team, and the way they play together seems like they are liking each other as well, from Steph to even the players on the bench.
Personally it's cause a see a future for GSW with these younger guys. They have the potential to bring in another dynasty once the old heads are gone
its coz we've been down for two years so its great to see the team literally build and pick itself up from the dark days.
Team feels like a family again is why. Everyone knows their place and doesn't wave their fame or stats over anyone.
This is what the Sixers tried to do with Simmons, what Lakers started doing then let go for LeBron. A team transitioning their focus with younger generation in mind. And they are doing it right.
They’re a lot more fun to watch.
Warriors' are always reviving careers, all the way back to Andrew Bogut, Livingston, Mcgee and now Wiggins...
I'm just so happy to see the culture giving second chances to these players to prove themselves
Just like the saying goes, there are no bad students, only bad teachers.
P.s. lowkey wanted them to bring in JLin too
JLin would be a great backup and would flourish in Warriors system
Gary Payton? Dude having highlights like prime lebron lmao
@@kuhieyei3855 but GPll is just starting his career, this is his 1st real chance. The comment was about 2nd chances...
@@hmoobshow2482 His defense is Awful and he demands the ball to much to make plays . Not saying he’s bad just not a fit on the warriors . A team like the Blazers could use him tho
@@hmoobshow2482 he all ready played for the warriors didn’t look good
Gary Payton’s quote he goes off gave me chills! 🥶 love him in the warriors 💛💙
I was just telling my bros a few days ago that the most dangerous pickup gsw made was Wiggins. He has all the talent to be a perennial all-star, he just needed a system that he can thrive in.
As a dubs fan for years that's watched like 70+ of their games a year every year, I thought it would be mutually beneficial to trade DeAngelo for Tobias harris 1 for 1. That's back when wigs was looked at a as a bad defender, but he just played within shitty system in Minnesota. Id rather have wiggins now imo.
Well tobias harris is also good player we wouldn't know what he capable of, but with what I'm seeing with wiggins I'm content happy
@@forestlink6673 i dont think harris could've give us the defense that wiggs is providing now
@@forestlink6673 tobias meh dissapears a lot when you need him
I can feel this comment
I was the same lol then I start caring.now I don't watch but read
People come to the Dubs to play good team ball and have a great team around them. I'm loving this year's team. Wiggs, Poole, GP2. Ballin'.
I’ve never been this early. I just want to say Dubs winning this years championship. Thank you.
Me too
Don’t jinx it I rlly want us to win it
Imagine with klay comes back. And wiseman + kuminga develops.
Same..lakers heat had the worst ratings ever even though it's lebron and the lakers nobody cares .warriors - ratings
Shampionship
He’s great with individual skills but he becomes lethal if he embraces to move around like Steph to create confusion and opening instead of holding on to the ball to create a move.
He’s running around on defence like a maniac. Only Klay Thompson sput that type of effort to run around on both defence and offence not curry.
@@MaliKali-po9su Curry is a better defender than you casuals realize
@@TheRoadLessChosen I’m not casual and he is not klay thompson. A Warriors fan is most likely to be a casual because of their recent success and the fact that they were a dynasty.
This team is back to playing for fun and winning chips. I feel when Durant was there all they cared about was winning and that took their fire away from strength in numbers during the 2016 season. I’m glad to see them winning again. From a Celtics fan. ☘️ I just enjoy watching basketball as a fan and as a fan of GOOD basketball they look really good! 👏👏👏👏
wiggins was everything that d-lo wasnt. wiggins on the wolves was considered to be a bad defender, cant pass, terrible efficacy, and didnt give full effort. d-lo was the flashy ball centric player who has the skill to score big but d-lo was the least coachable player on the warriors since the start of the warriors recognition, he refused to learn how to play defense which is something you have to be willing to do if steve kerr is your coach. when wiggins got traded to the warriors u instantly saw him getting better on def to the point now where is is a low t1 high t2 defender wing defender, wiggins showed he lack of effort was not a player thing and was most likely a demoralized player in a bad franchise that had no one to teach how to be a real pro. there was very few people when then trade was first made that thought this was a good trade for the warriors because people thought he was everything i said above plus he was considered to have one of the worst contracts in the nba but for the warriors the contract did not matter as he was essentially an expensive MLE for the warriors but now his contract while still over priced between everything he has learned on the warriors hes a 20-25 mil per year type player. outside of the whole vaccine situation he gets to play and not be the main focus while having split duties for scoring with poole as who is every having the better night and then when klay comes back he goes down another rank in scoring expectation. oh also getting the 7th pick overall where warriors got another big who was considered to be a top 5 draft talent that feel to 7 made this deal a straight fleecing of the wolves.
i had been called for gp2 needed to be our 15th man on the roster even more the pre season games.......i thought that if he got to play a few mins at the end up each half for his defense alone he will bring more value to the team than any 15th man in the nba. when they waived him i thought the warriors fucked up and there no way someone wasnt going to claim him but i guess the amount of teams hes been on plus the GM's/HC's having their heads up their ass to not see the value of 10+ mins of elite defense a game. GP2 has exceeded every single persons expectations including his own fathers. 3 double digit scoring games in the last 6 games alone alone with 14 steals in his last 112 mins in the last 5 games and is avging 3.6 steals per 36 mins through out the season.
everything about this warriors team has been what you expected out of them during the the early championship runs, curry with a few scoring side kicks(plus another one on the way), a deep bench that is full of vets, plus were still wating on reinforcements.
edit: just want to point out that just about evey single person iggy was going to be on the team solely at a vet presence and the post season due to the end of his time wit the heat. iggy has essentially is a PG off the bench with the only other PG being GP2. IGGY has a PER so far is better than all but 1 of his last 8 seasons in the league which was the 16-17 season. iggy has been completely reborn and could end up winning another ring with the warriors and ride off into the sunset.
Wiggins has been very aggressive this season so far.
Yes it's the vaccine i'm telling you
@@moesielisnasni Thats a good one
@@moesielisnasni 😂😂😂
It won't last
@@heneedsomemilk4194 im coming back and replying to everybody who hated the d angelo russell and wiggins trade😂
With Klay back to add more spacing Wiseman will also have more room to operate in the paint. Both Wiggins & Wiseman will feast with Steph & Klay on the wings.
The freaky thing is, Wiggins is STILL only, like, 26. If he played back in the day when you stayed in college for 3-4 years, he'd only be in like, his fourth year. So he's just hitting the peak of his athletic prime. He's been playing awesome on defense and has just been so effective on offense being super aggressive.
For real i'm only scared when we have an early 15 or 20 pts lead... everytime the other team finishes to catch up and most likely get the momentum at the end... but when in 1stQ we trailing and cut the lead to 4 or 5 in 2nd Q i already know that's Game 💯😎
@callmecatalyst Agreed. I like Steve Kerr's rotation a lot better this year. It leaves fewer consecutive minutes without Steph.
@callmecatalyst that's facts... 💯
I had all but forgotten the ex Warrior Kent Bazemore until you threw a shade at him at 8:03 LOL ... Moving on, look which team is now positioned to go deep into the post season?!! 'nough said.
@callmecatalyst I have my reservations on the Dubs "buzz-sawing" their way to the Finals. The East ain't what it used to be--the weaker conference. It just might be the stronger one, rn. Look at the teams that not so long ago were on the bottom of the EC--now are in the top 6 in the standings. It's a long season; some may drop down, some not. Miami Heat are on their revenge tour and they are right next to the Nets as a seeming threat to the Dubs. (Tuesday's match-up @ Nets I'm so nervous/worried about.)
I'm not that worried about most West teams.
I need to see our Dubs beat the Clippers, Lakers, and Grizz more than once. Blowing out the Grizz at least once would be so beautiful. Sweet redemption. Same goes for beating the Mavs. (I just don't like Luka and the org. )
Having the best record in the league so early in the new season is great. ESPN's SAS and many other sports/NBA analysts are already crowning the Dubs as Champs. 🚩🚩🚩🚩⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️ PUMP ON THE BREAKS!!! CHILL!!!!!
And please don't compare this great start to their 2015/16 start--the ending was so heartbreaking.
This 21/22 season is still so young! Agree that a lot can happen during this marathon. I'm 🙏 🤲 for all Dubs to stay healthy as well as for all in the league and beyond.
I don't know about V. Oladipo's rehab status; but, I hope he'll be back soon. The Klaw might be out for the season (partial ACL tear) and Jamal Murray (torn ACL as of early April 2020 vs GSW). I don't see him returning to the game this season/post season either. He shouldn't, imo. With Kawhi out, currently PG13 is on a tear on both sides of the ball.
Dubs will improve during the course of the season, so will many good teams.
The one major thing for Dubs to improve on is to limit their turnovers a bit more. It's evident that they are working on it. Their 22 turnovers cost them a win vs Grizz last month. A lesson learned I hope.
Last season Dubs' fouling was another major issue. I see that it's not so much this time. Staying on track with maintaining the #1top defensive rating--or having the top 3rd--- throughout this l-o-o-o-o-ng season is the way to the Finals -->🏆#4 in recent Dubs' history.
After 2 seasons of missing the play-offs, and with Klay's and Wiseman's return to the game around the corner, Steph and Draymond are on a mission, add Klay's redemption tour---after he'll shake off the rust---he and the Dubs will be very😱😱😱😱😱. The rest of the league is already put on notice. It's a long journey with it's ups and downs. Hope for more ups for the Dubs, of course.
I'm in the present moment. I worry about every upcoming game (certain matchups more than others), watch the games intently, and revel in every Dubs' win. Recent victorious Dubs' games had me in total awe. Took me quite some time to pick up my jaw from the floor. I'm looking forward to more of such games and praying for all to stay healthy. For those in rehab to come back stronger sooner than later.
✌😊
My apologies for my lengthy reply.
To the content creator, I believe it has to do more with Minnesota's ownership than KAT. Let's not forget most were looking at wigggins like a bust. Now I get why he said what he said when he was traded for love. He looks like a different player where he is needed and "wanted". The system helps some, but I believe that matters more.
7 months later and this video is more factual than the first time you dropped it🤣🤣
I'm honestly happy for Wiggins he wouldn't have gotten to be where he is at now if he never got traded it's just a better environment for him
Wiggins belong in the Allstar games
Let's face it, whoever the Dubs signed in, turns into a Gem. I bet that any of these role players, or even starters like Wiggins and Green won't flourish in another team.
It's the culture and the system. Look at the former Dubs player that went on to the other team...
💯💯💯
Nop, that isn't the kelly ubre case.
Yeah even Wiggins is now happy that he actually has a team that will never betray like what Gersson did. He was pissed off at that man for being hypocritical, going on his home, greeting his family and holding his daughter and he did this along with other players to form great bonds only for them to be traded which left a bad taste for Wiggins.
@@rd-gameplay9424 to be fair oubre still hasnt fully healed his hand and he did drop 35pts the other night.
Wiggins DID flourish 4 a trash org like the timberwolves. (They should 4real, 4real just get rid of that franchise.
HOT garbage.) Check the stats for him. But Draymond...U really don't know basketball if U don't want him on ur team???
He's sumthn like Rodman minus about 8 boards and the cross dressing drama. HE is the heart of that team!!!
Get out of yo feelings and watch the film. But U are right about sumthn...The warriors culture and system is a beast.
Shout out #The best shooter of all time, Steph Curry.
Gary Payton’s quote he goes off gave me chills! 略 love him in the warriors
A. Wiggins is fulfilling his potential. Getting better every game
So excited for Wiggins. Terrible how he was turned down by Le Bron's Cavs, kind of busted with the Timberwolves.. and now blossoms with the Warriors. Go Dubs!
Good job breaking it down. Keep up the good work.👍
GP2 out here stealing everything, he's right. He's got a cute smile too so watch out he'll steal ya girl too.
Man i love your contents. Its like series breakdown!
All this, MVP Curry, Kuminga, AND Klay waiting until he is 100%...insane
Imagine wiggins never got the vaccine we would not have seen his spectacular performances
Gosh that’s a nightmare. Thank you wiggs
Great content, you got yourself a new sub 💪🏼👍
AW still my fav hoop mixtapes and i was disappointed when he just turned into “role player” after getting drafted but it seems like hes showing out again honestly think its the bay areas organization really bring out players potential
Wiggins Klay Steph Draymond and Poole to make up GSW starter. Then comes Iggy, GP2, Beljica, Porter Jr. Damon Lee as the Bench... and you still got Kumnga Wiseman sitting in the bench waiting for their turn to shine. It's lookin very very good for the Warriors. KD would have wished he never left. He is missin all the fun in GSW.
Jimmy Butler told them what Wiggins was capable of, but he was feeding off Kats energy of not caring... so not only Jimmy Expose them now Wiggins did it
Ummm Jimmy problem was Wiggins not carrying not KAT goofy lol. Wiggins is doing Ight but he has fallen very very short of what a #1 pick should’ve been.
@@kvngcjgaming5559 it was both of them goofy, Kat was the one whom started everything
@@NFamousDj lmao no it wasn’t Jimmy literally said he had no problems with Joel and KAT. It was the other guys Ben and Wiggins who got paid more than him who felt like the organization owed them stuff. It clearly shows Wiggins and Ben Simmons are lazy like imagine you’re the #1 and bar is set soooo low for you that people don’t even care if you play or you average 16-18(as a scorer btw) that people will take anything from you.
@@NFamousDj kat has definitely dipped down in production but I would too if 5 family members of mine including my mom died in 1 year, myself caught Covid,and my shitty team ain’t going nowhere because they tried to cater towards Wiggins so much
@@kvngcjgaming5559 Butler admitted he has targeted Towns and Wiggins with harsh criticism, look at interview with Rachel Nicols
at first i was upset that the warriors acquired d.lo cuz i knew he didnt fit the system and just wanted him as a another scoring option but then they used d.lo to acquire wigs and i wondered if the gms had some sort of esp and knew what they were doing all along. fast forward to now, i feel its more evident that the warriors front office must have some sort of psychic on their side cuz we were all upset with how the draft went but now we see how much they were looking into the future cuz my god it looks bright for the next decade.
Luv it🔥🔥
There is a squad in the Bay Area. Bob Meyers put together a squad.
If Bob Meyers calls inquiring about a player, teams may want to reassess how that player is being utilized.
Ain’t gon lie hoops report speaking facts!!
I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, ANDREW WIGGINS HAS THE MOST POTENTIAL OF JUST ABOUT ANYONE IN THE NBA!!!!! He just needed a place that would encourage him to do more. A winning system.
Your channel is underrated bro
WOW...Wiggins, GP2, Poole., Green...CURRY...then we'll get Thompson and Wiseman back...then look at the rest of the team...God bless ya'll and may the rest of the team remain healthy throughout the season and the next and the next season....EXCITING DUBS
I can’t believe they also got Gary Payton undrafted 🤯
Dang!! That was beyond beast!!😳
I really love the sound of the rim
The sheesh get me every time love this dude
THIS IS A REAL BBALL CHANNEL! I hate all those fake click bait bball channels. Good stuff.
the thing about wiggins taking over game swhen gsw needed…i'd noticed too
This one I noticed, for as far as I remembered, 8 out of 12 wins (rough estimate) there's a #22 jersey behind that win knocking big 3, creating crucial stop, etc. just doing everything he can to get that W. He didn't get as many points as we expected for him because of the rise of JP which took a considerable amount of attempts too and it's not a bad thing in my opinion. "Just play your role and get the W, that simple!"
Shout out sir! Ur a good man
It’s the Forest Gump clip for me!😂😂 Go dubs!!
Wiggins is the most relaxed superstar I have ever seen. Wait till he needs to play hard.
Not a superstar
That's his problem he's always waay to relaxed hence he isn't a superstar. Just a star
@@keyosama8012 just wait and see this playoffs 🙋🏽♂️
Wiggins could become one. And it wouldn’t be that hard
@@DavidSmith-by3is yessir
I told folks the Warriors needed Andrew Wiggins BEFORE Durant came to the bay. I always knew Wiggins could be unlocked by the dubs atmosphere and personnel. He can do even more than what we've seen thus far.
good call
It hurts me that as a T-Wolves homer, basically everyone who leaves the Wolves thrive. It seems like there is no actual investment in team chemistry on the Wolves, and I just wish one day they take notes when they see players like Wiggins excel in different systems
get this man more subs
I see a lot of teams losing big leads around the league but I wouldn't worry too much about the warriors losing leads, they have the fire power and defense to win most games that are close
I liked Wiggins from start,gr8 player,not cocky jerk and have tons of potencial. Also Bjelica is hell of steal,i wish he got more minutes. I hope you will make video about him.
There is no one in the NBA that can stop us if Wiggins plays the entire season like he played against the Wolves.
Just tell Wiggins imagine the opponent is the Wolves
Gettin Wiggy with it
Awesome job Wiggs!
This Warriors team is practically a new team with new players besides the core players.
Number two rated defense in the league at the end of the season.
They gelled and peaked during the playoffs.
Then went on to win the Championship.
They finally figured out
how to win with all of their core players back and healthy except for Ironman Kevin Looney he played every game in the season and in the playoff run to the Finals.
#35 on trending? Damn your channel is going crazy.
Imagine if wiggins tried just like that for every game he plays. It is what MJ did and that is why he is the GOAT
4:36 made me subscribe.
No one in the league has better insite of player potential as this Dubs management! Question it all you want. The record shuts down all doubters!!
9:17 That kid will blossom much more after he leaves the Timberwolves. See: Lavine and Wiggins.
7 months later this video 110% accurate
Hey dude can you make a recap when steph told the media "you dont wanna see us next year"...thats cool and look on thier record 11-1 he meant that.
I really like GPII and Jordan Poole. Wiseman is needed as MIN show the flaw of current team
It wouldn't bother me if a team got back in it. As long as they finish, I would be fine. We don't have Klay or Wiseman. Now when they get them back healthy, then yes, you gotta hold on to that lead.
I can't wait to see when Klay gets back.
Wiggins has been good so far. He's been stagnant in Minnie
This turned out to be such a great move by the warriors. Where once it was considered by many (myself included) laughable. Goes to show there is a reason I’m not a GM.
Wiggins getting a ring in GS would be great. LeBron didn’t believe in him so it would make it even sweeter for Dubs fans I’m sure.
Andrew straight up posterizing everyone, Jesus Christ
The 1 season gsw traded for improving their line up. I salute!
i think Andrew Wiggins fits very well in the warriors, that is why his game confidnce keep getting better bcoz of the coaching staff, team mate urging him to be more aggressive, esp in defense, offense……. he is far better team mate & defender than Durant…. if his game confidence progress as expected he will be the reason we will WIN it all… Curry as the MVP, GREEN the best denfender…..
I promise you nobody has seen the real wiggins yet
His potential is crazy that’s why the warriors traded him even though most ppl thought dlo was better
@@yahiaali4059 brooo highschool wiggins was Jordanesce
When he starts playing like that like how he played against the timberwolves its over
GP2 is a total delight on the court!
Aged like a goddamn wine
The reason why the gsw vs timberwolves game was close at the end of the 3rd quarter was because Draymond had a bad thigh bruise and had to sit out for the rest of the game. If that wasn't the case they would've kept the lead they had.
I get your critique about losing leads, especially with the DUBS history of doing so since 2013 BUUUT...keep in mind that a 19 point lead now is not the same as a 19 point lead prior to 2014. The Warriors and (mostly) Steph have changed the game so much that 19 points can be scored with 6-7 baskets which at 24 seconds per possession, times two for opposing teams possession, that's how much teams average in only 5 minutes of playing time. If we are losing 30 point leads, that's a different story but in a game that's all about runs, scoring can go 20-4 in any given quarter so I am not too worried.
Not sure but in my understanding, players who were traded and fought their old team most probably they have a desire to explode, maybe because they want something to prove. I remember those time when D. Rose played against Bulls and he burst.
Andre is excellent, as a Leader, bringing up Team play! He is a deep player, their Championships, still on great Leadership.
Bro I miss the old background beat (sunny days beat )
Wiggins when he’s motivated you see his true skill but mainly he’s pretty descent
Wiggins was amazing, but the problem is he only does it 3 times a year. He put up performances like that for the Wolves too.
Just this season, Wigg has already done more than 3 times! Did you even watch the games? I’m just saying
Wiggins is shooting 10% better from floor and 9% better from 3 than Dlo currently while clamping the best player on the opposing team most nights. Kuminga also looking pretty good.
Now he's a champion 🏆
It took Steph 5-years to become MVP dominant. This could be the #1 pick Wiggin's year to Super Stardom. Poole looks to match Klay's consistency. Very well could be a Splash Brothers' Quartet. Fast break with Iggie, Dray, GP II and Kuminga. 3-point shooters coming off the bench - D. Lee, Porter, Chioza and even Bjelica. #2 pick 7'1" budding monster Wiseman. This team will be so deadly and unbeatable for the next 10-years.
Curry, Thompson, Wiggins, Green, and Wiseman. That's a nice starter if ever I saw one.
He slid into Harrison Barnes' role
Wigs is as dangerous as the calm before the storm.
Hot Take: Wiggins is better rn for the Warriors than KD.
KD is great, but he sucks the powers from other stars on the team for an iso focused play style.
I’m a warriors fan but stop bro, KD makes us unbeatable, Wiggins hasn’t helped us win as much as KD did
@@datmf69 Everyone loves the Warriors again, people getting excited for the NBA which has a lot to do with the Warriors. With KD, everyone hated the Warriors, with media everyday trying to break up the Warriors.
KD Warriors weren’t unbeatable, almost eliminated by the Rockets.
KD Warriors Iso heavy, sucked power from Step and Klay.
@@blue-phoenix115 wouldve been a three peat if KD didn’t get injured (or Klay). We were unstoppable.
@@datmf69 Yup, props to Raptors but they got really lucky.
However, I don’t think Warriors would be as good with KD. Keeping him would be at the cost of GSW’s current elite bench and defense. The roster would be completely different.
I also don’t think players would develop as much with KD.
The chemistry would be inferior for sure.
Even when K D was in the team, they are not looking as like a TEAM like this current one. Major issue was that KD never played like a team player. His individual game is very good and effective because not many players can defend him one on one. Plus Steph and Klay, they won championship. But this team even without Klay and Wise, everyone plays a team game. Nobody cares about individual numbers.all they care about is winning games. This is what I like about this one. 👍👍
Yes they can easily win if they play as team that's what other team problem because they always had star who always on ball carry on team they need to have more points because they are the star ...that make them lose the game
Can’t believe I’m first!! Btw andrew Wiggins is a young all star!!!
GP2 sealing everything. Nice!
40k on Deck my Dude
Notice how when he goes up against challenge he scores 40 or more
. But with no challahge rookies handle em.
The warriors are really effing good.
Wiggins plays deep, set to rise, and hungry, good Coaching demands winning, spreading it out
One doesn’t experience self-transcendence, the illusion of self only dissipates-🎈
I think steph is at his peak when it comes to his prime He is a sharp sword offensive machine. Does anybody notice when he’s at the three point line and there’s a defender in front of him he pretends he’s going to do a three cross him over enough until the defenders feet is not in the right stance to go torward to him and he runs around him and does a layup? Amazing basketball Steve Kerr and the warriors coaching staff 10/10 I’m very proud to be a warriors fan. I can imagine when Stephen curry retires it will be a catastrophic shock to the nba most importantly warrior fans. When the warriors wasn’t in the playoffs/finals the nbas revenue went down drasticaly. It’s really fun to watch this type of basketball. Better then the kd. Era this is a masterpiece of an offense if you truly understand how warriors basketball is played. Please watch warriors basketball closely watch the schemes. You will appreciate this level of basketball.
wiggins gained confidence around the warriors, with their unpallalel team chemistry wiggins bounced back. back in minnesotta hes always critizied, kat too, i supposed wiggins mentality was not that tough during that time