Would keeping Klay Thompson or landing Paul George help the Warriors more? đ€ | First Take
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- Would keeping Klay Thompson or landing Paul George help the Warriors more? đ€ | First Take
On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Chris "Mad Dog" Russo and Bob Myers join Molly Qerim to discuss Klay Thompson, Paul George and NBA free agency.
0:00 Future for Thompson and George
2:40 Competing in the loaded West
5:30 Stephen A. on the Klay criticism
8:15 Power of NBA players
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Klay is 34. He's not 40. As Stephen A said a "bad" year for him would be a great year for most guards.
Nah dang a bad season just means heâs declining heâs 35 this year. Thatâs 2 years away from retirement
@@d4v1do Really? He's retiring at 37? The dude is a shooting guard. He mostly shoots from the perimeter. If his injuries don't shorten his career, there's no reason why he shouldn't play until he's 39 or 40.
@@christopherpaul7588 Most guards doesnt demand 40mil/year, Klay is still a decent player, but hes not worth the money hes demanding on a contending team.
@@christopherpaul7588 great so will you give a guy with 4 years left 30 million? He will be worse every year
@@christopherpaul7588 He can't be a key player in a championship team. It's 2024/25 season
Bob Myers knew to get out of GS before it got worse đ
He stepped down because he didn't wont to be the one that broke up the main 3 guys so he rather let somebody else do it
â@@dextercorner3942flatt đđđŻ smart Man..
Shut up fool. If they were to replace Kay with PG they are a THREAT
He basically back out so he wouldn't have to take blame like jerry kause from the bulls
@@chuvandenny It's not the same
Calling Klay an all-star is disingenuous. It's been five years since he was an all star
It's just a general statement means they have been an all-star. Calm tf down.
Klay will always have the reputation of a star even if heâs not a star player anymore. Legacy thing.
Well yeah he tore his knee and Achilles.
He got 4 championships how he ainât a star đ€Łđ€ŠđŸââïž yâall say anything
@@ajizzle8334 hes just a normal casual who doesnt know basketball. Klay averaged 19 a game and shot 39% from three. Take a Look at Devin Vassell who averaged basically the same stats and got a 135M contract but casuals want to act like Klay is crazy for wanting half of that.
Stephan a the only one who stood up for klay all these years. Facts!!
he gets paid "extra" to say that by "Klutch Sports" = this is obvious
@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 Saying stupid s*it with arrogance and finishing it with "this is obvious" doesn't make it true.
@@damirvujevic2685 it's true to you because if it wasn't you wouldn't care what I say + you'd present OBVIOUS FACTS, that prove I'm wrong.......but you didn't do that because YOU CAN'T = you're saying you're insecure + a bit stupid because of my post, without saying it
@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 stupidity doesn't need to be proven wrong, when it is just stupid. You smoked a bit and now you go around typing idiotic stuff, thinking how deep your knowledge of the NBA is.
â@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 do you have any evidence to support this?
Bobâs pretty smart. He could be a great GM.
200 mil for pg is BS! He ain't doing anything.
Exactly gee he aint all dat at dis stage in his life, kinda injury prone, and wants all dat money, stop it Paul George your becoming a journey man if u ask me
@@user-gv8ii9ft6xif we ask you but letâs just focus on what the front office of the warriors thinks
Over 50/60% of that is TAX in L.A
Bro wdym they gave Steph almost 200 million and youâre saying Pg doesnât deserve it?
@@AlPerez-hu5gc dude stop it ok, steph curry is wayyyy better than injury prone Paul George wat wrong wit u. Steupssss
The narrative of no loyalty or no commitment when the players treat the business like a business.
i want Klay to retire a warrior, but if he is going to have this attitude and put his ego over his chances at winning with the crew, he might as well leave
Who are you ?
There is no way, I repeat no way that GSW wins another championship with this squad.
Klay leaving
Klay should live for his own well being
He's seen draymond and Wiggins get 4 years, why shouldn't he?
Keeping Klay, and somehow pulling George, would be truly elite.
Ppl gotta accept that Klay aint what he used to be
I think more than anything, Klayâs gotta accept that he ainât what he used to be.
HE'S BETTER THAN JJ REDDICK
â@@kharyvines6971by a long shot đđ but where did that come from đđ
@@jerodtabb311 HE CAN STILL HIT AN OPEN JUMP SHOT. WITHOUT STRUGGLING
@@kharyvines6971 And thats worth 35-40mil/year?
Golden state needs to find a way to offload Chris Paul and Wiggins and pick up Paul George and keeping Klay.
Is that really the clippers logo
Yes, its their new logo
The new one to celebrate their relocation to their new arena.
It's dope
That logo is not bad, but it could use a red outline around the blue C or something. It looks a bit plain
Itâs so uglyđ
CJ lookin' like "DID I DO THATTTTT?????" đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
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how does Austin Rivers look like his Dad and Andrew Tate đđ
At the end of the day, Klay has brought many success to the warriors franchise. And tbh he doesnât owe them anything more. Heâs getting older, more injury prone and is probably looking for a team to retire on and live his life
The warriors literally paid Klay Hella money even when he was injured and not able to play for how many yrs. Ever since then except for 2022 he hasn't been doing what he's supposed to do as a franchise player. The warriors don't owe him anything either atp in time. If he really wants to help the franchise rn he would take a massive pay cut, unless he cares about money more than he may leave.
@@zaynoncrack4502Him and Dray both need a pay cut. Imo though Klay can get what heâs looking for at a different team, especially if players like Devin Vassal be getting these insane contracts đ
@@ShivPatel-hy6vu The warriors win more games with Draymond on the court compared to when he's off. Last season literally showed that. Him and curry r the most important players of the team atm. So saying Draymond deserves the paycut when he has such an impact on the team is crazyy
@jayro407 They don't owe him anything more either
@@zaynoncrack4502 Draymond my favorite player on that team and what you say is correct, but that man always manages to get suspended or kicked from games. Heâs getting older as well, realistically you canât keep paying a player past their prime that money, it ainât 2017 no more
Klay is also a cone on defense now, in addition to his offense going down. He used to be a top tier defender, but the injuries and age got him.
PG13 to the Warriors means you need to offload Draymond otherwise Draymond is gonna try and fight PG for having a better podcast. Lets be real.
I swear Green be having hidden agendas. Isnât he with klutch sports?
Epic
Lmao. Draymond would be estatic if he got the opportunity to play with PG. Besides the fact that they're friends, winning basketball recognizes winning basketball. Draymond is a playmaker he would be in basketball heaven getting to set up PG & Steph, Dray is your glue guy that instantly creates chemistry through his unselfish play.
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I was thinking this then saw the comment lol
CJ channeling his inner steve urkle on this one đđđđđđđ
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If we are being honest, the warriors didnât make the playoffs because they were missing green for nearly half the season. Once he was back and integrated back into the lineup, they were one of the upper quarter of teams in the league. We know of course Green missing that time was mostly his own fault. (He missed all of training camp, preseason and the first few games of the season due to injury so that isnât his fault, but the two suspensions clearly were). Upside for them was that green being out allowed them to develop and get reps for Kuminga, Pordzinski and Jackson-Davis.
Assuming Green doesnât miss almost half a season again due to suspension and is there, adding someone like George would definitely help their chances. That being said, itâs probably safer to assume green wonât get suspended for half the season than it would be that George wonât miss considerable time to injury which has seem to be a trend the last several seasons.
3:46 "It was never really in doubt, Boston was the better team." Yet everyone, except Zach Lowe and Molly Qerim, picked the Dallas Mavericks to win the NBA Finals.
Itâs more like they wanted mavs to win. Not really thinking mavs weâre the better team imo
PG has fulfilled his contractual obligation to the Clippers, he owes them nothing. And since a organization can trade a player whenever they want regardless of contracts, NO PLAYER owes any organization anything except their effort once the game starts.
Klay should retire a warrior but at some point he gotta get paid for what heâs worth not what he WAS worth. The Warriors did right by Klay when they gave him the supermax(5years/190million) after he tore his ACL in the 2019 finals. He then tore his Achilles. The Warriors waited 2 years for this man to play another game and paid him max dollars to rehab. Which is all good and well deserved cause he earned that money. But now, if Iâm the warriors Iâm not keeping him unless heâs good with a
He is worth 20-25 million. 15 million is way too low in the modern NBA. That is what you pay an average roleplayer.
@@mrt094 ur right but this is from the Warriors perspective. They canât give him the money heâs asking for so if he truly wants to stay a warriors heâs gonna have to take a pay cut.
Bahahahaha Pandemic P gonna make yâall contenders?! Man is out every year. Yâall wouldnât even make it past the Pelicans for a play in spot lmao
Trade Kawhi and George and get back some good pieces. Itâs the same story every year with those two
That's obviously not going to happen considering Kawhi is already signed with the clippers.
Another masterpiece!
Klay can definitely still shoot the lights out, but I think his defence has gone down quite a bit ever since his injuries. I think thatâs a very big detriment to his current situation
Never forget Klay Thompson went 0-10 in an elimination game
Never forget he went 37 in one quarter off very few dribbles
@@DosesOfAshleynever forget that was 8 or 9 years ago
@@DosesOfAshleyhow long ago tho
I forgot all about that thanks for reminding me
This is the oldest words in the book. Donât worry itâs not going viral. đ
How the hell did Stephen A make it about Kawhi. Lol he canât help himself
PG has and will ALWAYS be better than Klay unless he's injured. đ
Magic and Bob did the same move, but at least LeBron cleaned Magic's mistake by drafting Lonzo. Bob just jumped ship before it sinks.
Happy dog failed to remember how the clippers did blake griffin after maxing him out
Bob is the only sensible adult in the room.
Iâm ready for the Klaykers!
More bob myers and more Udonis haslem on first take
Klay is really good for every contending team right now. And going to a new environment might ignite his drive again. 34 is still young. Sure he got a bad rep from last season but let's not forget his reputation as one of the most lethal shooter EVER.
Did they ask CJ how Galveston was?
last season has already proved that "superstars" dont win games...not anymore....GSW please just get a reliable big and role players
Almost didnât even recognize that Clippers logo đ
Eff itâŠkeep Klay, sign PG, pick up Wiseman on an MLE when he gets released
He should have taken the two for 48 that the Warriors offered. This is why the majority of the players lock up guaranteed money the moment they can because you run the risk the offer won't be there any more.
I had to turn off soon as Steven a hop onâŠ. So annoying.
yes
Keep Klay
Let the core run it over again
But they need to add something else to that core
Someone like Markannen!!!!
BUT I think talent aside that Paul George is just NOT a winner!!
Neither is Wiggins and they still got a championship out of him.
@@rogiergiersthove
I swear I git in to comment the same thing about Wiggins!
I want Klay and GSW to figure it out, but they paid him max money in that 5 year contract and he was out for 2 seasons and still got paid all of that money. HE's still very good but perhaps a slight home town discount would be in order. Or, at the very least, he shouldn't be insulted if they expect him to do that due to crazy tax implications. Now, if some other team wants to max him out, then go forth and prosper.
Not a slight discount. He is realistically worth close to a vet minimum if we have any intention of competing for a championship. He was unplayable at times this year, countless errors and inefficient, 0-10, etc. really hurt the team especially with the shitty attitude. If it's about money for Klay, go see what you can get from Orlando. We need to fill our roster with actually helpful young players, who are athletic and can play defense, play team basketball and have a good attitude. Right now solid role players like KCP, Malik Monk, Bruce Brown are easily more valuable than Klay and look what they're getting paid.
@@user-em8go8sc1j I was being kind with âslightâ. I think his contract should mimic what Draymond is getting
why? Klay sucks = why would you give him MORE money, to not play well = he should just retire, call it a career, before it gets worse + embarrassing
@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 he could still be a solid role player off the bench for a few teams . Obviously, at. Reduced price
Stephen a really do act like a sassy girl
Bringing back Klay Thompson stabilizes things, to allow for the transaction that we already made to carry things forward, which is mainly our young guys stepping up.
Payton and Looney are largely taking a back seat.
TJD will play however many minutes at C for us as he can; hopefully he can be effective for 25 minutes a night.
Podziemski is now the 3rd Guard for the Warriors; hopefully he can be effective for 20 minutes a night.
Kuminga is the downhill bullet that we've been missing; hopefully the off-season work gets him more comfortable at the 3, but the expectation is that he plays 25-30 minutes a night.
Moody is now the glue guy, playing 2/3/maybe some 4, but mixing and matching throughout. 15
Steph plays 35, Wiggins and Draymond play 30, Klay plays 25-30 minutes a night.
Still some time left to be covered (maybe Looney finds his form again, maybe we get a new Big).
If the young guys step up, they're additive to a Play-in team that had Draymond for 20 less games than they should.
We have Draymond for the full season, and we're out of the Play-in; we start the full season with what we figured out late, and the team wins 55 games.
Will be a rebound year for the West and all that, so maybe that projected 55 win team, only actually wins 50; it's still a team that clears the Play-in, without really knowing what Moody contributes (Kuminga stuck, Podziemski showed early, TJD showed late)
Man, Iâll be sad if Klay leaves
I like how Mad Dog, in the same sentence asking why Paul George can not be loyal to the Clippers, but then says why the Warriors should keep Klay Thompson, and he doesn't see the irony there đ
The way these analysts who never played basketball always disrespect hof near the end of their careers is crazy
They already paid him in good faith while he was injured. It's time to pay him for what he's able to do for them over what he's already done
CJ ainât tryna recruit nobody đđ
Lebron and Steph are the only 2 older guys that can put a team over the hump other than those 2 guys it is a young manâs league.
0-10 send Klay to Shanghai
Send him to his boat
37pts in one quarter
@@WeezMuzik that was 9 years agođ stop living in the past
@@WeezMuzik Michael Jordan once had 62 points in 3 quarters but I donât see anyone trying to sign him now a daysâŠ
â@thanos8914 18p ave on 39% from 3 at age 34....last year.
Warriors dynasty is done. Mediocre heading toward bad. George would be a major mistake. Kerr's 6' 5" and under league mentality is not working anymore. The best move for the Warriors is to offer that max money to Hartenstein instead of George.
Classic First Take: None of them directly answered who theyâd rather have for the warriors, Klay or Paul George
So is CJ McCollum Steve Urkel or Stefanđđđ
It's all Draymond's fault...
3:37 This is the biggest problem the nba has. Everyone is trying to star chase
PG13 is getting ready for life after the NBA at this stage of his career
A million coaches? You mean 2 đđ
SAS just gave Bob Myers longer good bye then to Max
Klay to the mavs,bucks, heat, 76, Lakers are all needed fits
Bob is too smart for this panel
No he isnât , he knows more but is the dumbest person I have ever seen in his position , his iq is probably lower than Perkins and j will
Neither if both are asking for the prices they think they want to be paid.
I want klay back more than anything
Bob said Klay AND PG-13 like he thinks having both of them is a real option. đź
Klay should go to the Indiana Fever. He would compliment Caitlin Clark very well.
Mad Dog: "I made a commitment to this franchise. I owe it to this franchise to stay here!"
1) Your commitment ends when your contract ends. You are free to sign wherever. No questions asked.
2) Teams will trade a player mid-contract. So, why should player commit beyond their contract when teams get to trade players when they feel like it?
Genuine question; when was the last time a star player chased a ring and actually got a chip? LeBron?
Keeping Thompson!
Klay should want to go to the clippers and join all those stars on that team!
GSW still refuses to get a legitimate center smh
If they get PGâŠyou can replace Klay with a very versatile player. PG can play defense. He can score and shoot. Not the shooter Klay is but PG gives them so many options without sacrificing defense.
The players donât owe the league anything. Itâs all about whatâs best for you and your family. If another platform offered you 20 million dollars a year to help them get off the ground you would leave espn this very second, in the middle of the show, because thatâs whatâs best for you and youâre family.
They need to get rid of conferences straight up
Agreed, especially after this years playoffs . The playoff format needs a total realignment
PG13 provides wing defense. Plus 3 level scoring. Heâs ok with being 2nd option. No ego what more do you want if ur the warriors. As far as culture and history of course you want klay but In terms of winning, Paul George is the move. In Klays case Iâd give him til all star break but shooting 0- for whatever in his last game doesnât help his case.
time to let klay go, that last game said it all
Them just totaling writing off the nuggets is just hilariously pathetic đđ
They forgot Jokic is the best in the world
Denver needs a better bench
@@dantheman8152the year the won it all,they bench was unreal,right now their are 6 or 7 players only at best
The nuggets got worse, and there's a rumor they might get even worse by not resigning kcp. They don't have many moves they can make without trading a key piece
Stephen a saying his goodbyes that espn not bringing back his contract like he wanted
What the hell kind of logo is that?đ
Something to do with nautical / boat themed. Still itâs whack af lol they should probs have a meeting and change it
Pg13 back to Indiana along embid with the Indiana squad they have now it be fire đ„
Never forget Klay
Has 4 RINGS
Bob is smarter than both of them!
PG is hell of player but these man wanting 220M contract and they never show up when it matters and injuryâs itâs not worth that investment heâll nawhh
Klay to the Bucks please
Mad dog was 100% correct tbh
The fact the players have so much more is not a good thing. They only care about themselves.
just let klay play just pass the ball to him he will be đ„đ„đ„
I respect mad dog pg needs to be committed to the clips đ
Y anyone would want pg is beyond me. Dude hasnt been consistent since his injury back in 2013 and youâre lucky if he gives you a few good games in the playoffs since then. Most importantly heâs always hurt and sitting out games. Like at this point why offer him high contracts? Heâs better of coming out of the bench or could be a great 3rd back up pg.
ESPN version of Skip: Mad dog
I don't see PG being a good fit for the Warriors. If they go for a max contract, they wouldn't be able to find a center and TJD is still developing. Kevon is retained for his final contract season I believe. But I'm hoping Klay doesn't become greedy and accept what the Warriors are offering
the way everyone keeps mentioning klay n pg starting to look like a sign that both of them are goin to the same team somewhere, I wouldn't b surprised if it actually happened
Your unbelievably dumb
Klay to Memphis wit ja and bane ???? đ„đ„đ„đ„đ„
Na if that did happened then we would want ja in return
@@Zephlynnation klay ainât worth that much anymore but just think about that fit
After Bob left GS, he dont want to see GS wining another championship đđđđ
Just witnessed a 70 year old man call klay and pg old đ
prefer klay for his championship instinct and caliber vis a vis to all free agent player not to mention the money involve. all of those free agent can not solve the problem of warriors. they can upload cp3, wiggins and others but not klay as no other can much his importance on warriors. they need to add big.
Im new to watching Mad Dog. Is he the type that refuses to answer the actual question if he doesn't like the actual answer and just alters the question or goes in about something else?
Losing Klay would make the Warriors better
Mavs need to go for klay, imagine how many open 3s Luka would be able to create for klay đ