Subaru WRX STI sedan Nurburgring record lap with Tommi Mäkinen - on-board footage
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- Subaru has released on-board driving footage during a hot lap at the Nürburgring Nordschleife racetrack in Germany using a 2011MY Subaru WRX STI 4-door (sedan) test vehicle. Behind the wheel is Finnish rally champ Tommi Mäkinen.
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Hilarious to read some of the comments on Tommi's driving. This guy won 4 word rally championships consecutively when wrc was at its most competitive with all the big manufacturers involved. This car he took round on this lap was totally stock !! Now show some respect!!!
obviously Tommi should have came to Tyler t for some driving advice .!!
+tyler t Whats the t stand for? Tosser?
too many Forza Horizon drivers these days....lol
nice grip :) this sti runs on slick ?
Lol, you obviously dont know nothing about racing. He drove those first chicanes perfectly... And you are saying his driving is too much "wrc". How the hell you know how that car handles on that track(on those conditions)? That is how it looks when REAL racing driver is pushing "shitty road car" on it´s absolute limits.
Tommi won 4 WRC championships in the most difficult conditions you can ever imagine. Mud, gravel, snow, ice, tarmac. How can you even critizise his driving skills in any level?
So what does that matter when he clocks a lap time like that? Absolutely nothing. He is extremely fast driver and btw his driving lines are simply perfect.
+tyler t Is that your comeback. "It doesn't matter". :D That's basically saying that you admit, you're wrong.
+tyler t your stupid bro stay in school
+tyler t he's driving it like a rally car maybe because it is a rally car??
+cody runge I agree the line's are not the most perfect. But... and there's always a but in a driver like this. Just take a look at 1:34/1:39, that gear swap, very intelligent torque adjusment, just to make it progressively oversteer and get out of the corner faster. And you can find a lot of that all over the lap. That torque sensibility is not the most common. This guy its not a perfect track driver... its not, but as a rally driver he does best outside his environment than a lot of track racers. And that is a huge point to him.
It's fun to see there is the racing line you'd have in a porsche, and then there is the"subaru-line" and the subaru line, takes part of the grass, you'd never see anyone in any other car do that, amazing driving!
+Marcus Ryser not
+Marcus Ryser except for the evo's.
+RogueHedonist .. The boxer flat 4 rumble, best STi so far!!
+RogueHedonist Lets face it, they're extinct in about 8 Days
+Marcus Ryser
Bear in mind he´s a rallydriver and not a tarmac specialist.
I know Tommi was / (IS) fast everywhere but gravel is his specialty
Tommi is typical Fin, likes to drink.
Have loads of stories about Tommi and Kimi Räikkönen.
Misshift and he still had the lap record hahah so happy i lived in the era where i got to watch this guy drive. Such a time, such an incredible talent.
1.33 is NOT a misshift; its technical term is "engine braking compression locking". The amount of ignorant comments here from the inexperienced and uneducated arm chair critics is astounding and disgusting. I would strongly suggest that if one does not own a Subaru STi, then driven it at the limit at the track refrain from commenting because whats coming out of people's mouths are just sheer absurd plain stupid garbage nothing short of a raving idiot on a random rant.
People on the internet are such super skilled drivers they can even talk shit about Makinnen not rev matching, going from 5th to 2nd gear, etc.
No more than a handful of people have ever been better at driving than Sir Makinnen once was.
He's driving the shit out of a ''regular'' car in Nurburgring as no one has probably done before and he makes it look like he's just trying to enjoy it. Being almost 50, no less.
But hey, he's still a bitch cause he doesn't even heel and toe.
Pushing it to the absolute fucking limit
+Kevin Ale And probably with less steering input than others! Watch how he keeps the steering angle constant throught the turn...
Does not have to.. it's on gravel where you need to use your wheel a lot:D
I've watched this video thousands of times during the past 10 years. It's enjoyable to watch him driving.
Its ok that people are blaming Tommi for the 1:33 misshift. They don't know Tommi never raced RHD cars.
People eat shit
I see it as quicker deceleration
i think that not missshift
I thought he did purposely, to brake late and the quickly upshift.
That really looks like a downshift on purpose to slow the car down
Tommi is getting everything there is out of this car. Absolutely stunning to see a rally driver's approach on this track.
Once those tires were nice and hot, he was RIPPIN!
You can tell he is a rally driver, look at him bank some of those turns.
Adjusting your helmet strap with one hand and driving 220km/h with the other hand. Love it :D
I think he was drinking some coffie! :)
Some people comments that he is not a proper racing driver. one of the best tarmac driver in wrc ever.
Well for a Finn he was impressive for sure.
Rally drivers have a different view of clearing a long track. :)
They make it shorter by cutting all over the place
That's why I love Hot Hatches so much. They have this Rally Character :)
Makinen was pushing this car to see it's limits and potential as a test driver for Subaru. This is the guy top WRC manufacturers like Subaru goes to test their cars out at Nurbergring even after his retirement many years ago. Four time consecutive WRC Champion '96 '97 '98 & '99 amazing feat.
Very impressive for a stock standard sedan, it's a great value for money car.
impressive!! its faster than ferrari california and 360, faster than porsche gt3......... yo this car is under 30 grand.......
+xFlow777 with a billion dollar driver though
wiredsk8r
true, so were the Ferrari and Porsche drivers, only difference is a car
+xFlow777 porsche gt3 is in the 7:10s now i believe, not sure what you're sqaying
mkelebay
not the 1 at number 95, 95. Porsche 911 GT3
7 : 56.33 Onboard N/A’99 ( nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/ ) or 82, or 68, or 55, or 51 or 34, or 25 as the matter of fact not a single Porsche gt3 is in the range you said lol im not sure where you got your information from
+xFlow777 That's pretty stupid though, tire technology alone i'm sure made a huge difference, you can't compare an older car to a new one. (www.caranddriver.com/news/2016-porsche-911-gt3-rs-photos-and-info-news) there you are by the way, sorry i was mistaken, its 7:20 flat, thought it was in the 7:10s, although it very well could be.
Not many seem to understand that Tommi is sitting on the wrong side of the car. You can see by the gear changes that he doesn't like this position.
I bet he would be a lot faster if he was sitting on the left...
Yeah that was the first thing i noticed. You can see that in the way he is shifting.
ICEMANZIDANE The gearbox is reversed for him. He makes changes like he was sitting on the left side and then he corrects himself.
Tommi is a legend thou..
+Vincent Vega It doesn't matter if it is a rhd or a lhd car. The H patter is the same. Nothing is "reversed" here.
Pirkka Ruuska You have obviously not driven a racecar on the wrong side of what you are used to. Not to mention the cameras rolling over your shoulder where the world is watching.
Since you sit on the different side of the H, the feeling for the centrifugal force is not the same. The vision out of front window to put the H frame close to apex is changed and we have also mentioned that gearbox is reversed.
Imagine you are doing the gear changes when you are passenger next time in a car.
+Vincent Vega It is like that manual transmitions come all like that if is left seat or right seat it doesnt matter it stays the same....only a real racer knows thats
Difference between a WRC driver and track drivers,based on Nurburgring test videos.
Track / test drivers trying to be smooth with the car, avoid the curves and very accurate with shifting in order to be fast.
Makkinen is throwing the car on the curves,he is not smooth at all,he turns in even with 2 gears up and is still very fast.
He really shows to the car, who's the boss by kicking it's butt.
Not smooth at all? He's smoother than 99% of drivers I see. He's not adjusting mid corner because he apexed too early, he's just coaching the car into the corner and using the tires well. If you're keeping the steering wheel completely still in a corner, you're slipping your tires unnecessarily as the road conditions change. If you look at his high speed corner entries, he's taking them better than most drivers I've seen, and definitely better than a single amateur I've ever seen drive the ring. If he was driving in front of someone, no matter how smooth they are, his line and use of tires is just far better. He's entering some corners 20km/h faster than most people. If he's not smooth, explain that..?
I mean that he turns the wheel very agressive and not afraid if the car slides because he can correct it immidiately.
In general im saying that he is brutal to the car like he is beating it up and he is very comfortable with that.
All im saying is that he is damn fast.Only a WRC driver can drive like that.
the wrc also doesnt have very stiff suspension thats why the car can be corrected through the corner.Stiff suspension makes you feel safe but is nor.
I agree.But makkinen is driving a road car.Not a wrc car.
That wad a sick little lap. Loved the run off at the finish line
this guy might be the best who's ever lived...if not, he's knocking on the door. That was truly impressive driving and watch his corner entry in EVERY corner, tires are loaded up to the max...he knows EXACTLY where the limit is. Impressive as hell.
this driver is 4 times World Rally Champion...total respect for this man !
6:50 RIP bird
Great driving btw, i dont get what the computer gamers are whining here
Hea Mees 6:52* and it was a really close call. May have been a miss.
100% commitment, awesome lines, full use of every inch of the track and then some
amazing drive!! the car seems damn stable, low understear..just amazing! good job Tommi!
Ah classic video. Tommi's got great skill.
I do find it curious how people can rip on his driving. It goes to show how little some actually know about driving well. Maybe people expect smoother movements. Part of this has to do with how Subarus are set up stock, basically kind of mushy on inputs, and part of this has to do with the nature of a rally driver. He actually has to work against the car some to get the most out of the car, so there tends to be a lot of driver inputs and larger than expected breadth of input.
It is important to note that the car is being driven quite near the limit as much as possible and that Tommi is using quite a lot of the course. He's got the throttle pegged for quite a significant amount of the course, even in sketchier bits. He's braking pretty late and shortly in difficult areas. Plus he's using a lot of curbs and run off when able to improve the line and hold speed. He also seems to modify his lines for the available power of the car, get on to the throttle and hold full throttle, and to carry more speed on exits. There is some margin of safety in place on the run which is noticeable, but frankly you're not going to find a driver and manufacturer out there destroying a pile of cars pushing at 10/10ths. There's no prize. Realistically, he's only leaving maybe 10 seconds on the table for safety.
What a pleasure to see Tommi Makkinen again, it's, I have no words to describe it, legend
I just love these cars, am very tempted to pick one up, have some fun on a driving holiday.
And I'm always impressed with how well these pros drive.
I'm impressed by the smooth shifts, and surprised by the understeer of the Subaru.
You can set it up to oversteer, be neutral or understeer from the center console.
I set mine for understeer in the winter only. It oversteers otherwise in Auto - and locking the diffs to the back.
edit: mixed them up without realizing. haha. corrected.
ONLY 3 SECONDS SLOWER THAN M4 2014!!! This car is extremely fast
FEGTTTSDH This car had an identical time to a Caterham R500
Will Stromquist what? really that is amazing!!!
FEGTTTSDH nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/ look at numbers 82 and 83
I think you have to give a few seconds to the incredible driving of Tommi, so maybe a a few more seconds slower than your M4 by normal fast driving standards
with a professional driver... i'd probably never make it to the finish line :(
Multiple world rally champion, still people seem to know a quicker way of getting from A to B. Fools!
James Ramsden Beauty of internet .
+tyler t the car is made for rally dumbass hes using the cars strengths
+tyler t *_YES IT IS!_*, you fool! It isn't called WRX (World *_Rally_* Cross) for nothing!
+Hansen Sebastian WRX stands for World Rally eXperimental
Supercoolsam The X on the WRX is not the same as the one on the NSX (New Sports eXperimental), it's a cross since it was meant for rallycross (World Rally X (Cross)).
An extremely gifted driver... who wuld believe that he actualy beat the all other top professionals of this category when he comes from the rally world!
Tommi Makinen is a great driver, and watching him crush everyone in World Rally motivated me to buy my Evo 10 and my Subi STI. Great cars, and great fun.
Makinen's brilliant here, he's clutchless downshifting with left foot braking rather than heel-toeing. I think it's a technique that was more common in rallying (back when they were using traditional manual gearboxes) than on a race track where heel-toe would be more used.
I love how he goes Rallying at the end
Wonderful! Go Tommi! It is so much fun to see a real rally-driver on a racetrack - the track's tarmac is just a recommendation, and to go over the curbs really hard a must.
I would be terrified going that fast on the nurburgring. Great video and love the car!
brilliant driving, considering the opposite side shifting. still great 👌🏻 very impressive lap time! i can't even get that lap time on project cars with the 400bhp evo10😂
One of the last true rally heroes (respect to Loeb of course) but Tommi made it 4 times in a row competing with Colin McRae, Carlos Sainz, M. Gronholm, G. Panizzi and other amazing drivers :D I think it was more challenging back in his days of reign :D
I love this guy's racing line !
Awesome video! Congrats!
class wrc drivers like makinen are just awesome... many people think f1 drivers are the best..ohh no. Kimi done well, would love to see Hamilton drive a wrc car, i remember when he had a lap in senna`s old car (with a gear stick) he couldn't believe how they used to drive them on the limit... the old turbo days, when f1 was exciting
judging from the racing line, the guy's having some real rally flashbacks! surprised not to see left foot braking xD
His a 4 times winner wrc im pretty sure if he have lot of experience in rally
This is so nice in so many levels!
true champion just testing for subaru in nurburg...great footage
like true rally driver, shortcut over inside grass line. ooops missed shift from 5th to 2nd 9000 rpm, I hope that is a JDM 2 liter engine. I guess he is not used to drive a right-hand drive car.
That last stretch was a little choppy.....kinda scared me but this rally driver knows his way around making a comeback.
Been getting to Autocross with my 2020 Sti. Watching vids of the olden days, when there were no paddle shifters and you had to use the clutch. Dunno if I breathed much the whole time watching this vid. Palms are sweaty too. This vid is awesome.
3 pedal and H shifter only is the way to go, modern cars and ferrari's are all a flop and major turn off I agree.
Awesome drive...his rallying habits are really noticeable here: watch the wild steering wheel work and the aggressive corner cutting + some Scandinavian flick attempts here and there :)) great stuff.
he had to go off roading at least once, at the very end!
jdmikeg4 he corrected oversteer when the rear went off the road... he did it without going of road completely... watch several more times, you will see.
well the finish line is right after that corner, so he knows he did not have to get a good run for the next straight. He just needed to get to the finish line as fast as possible, so he just went full throttle and accepted the risk of going off road or getting oversteer. The same with qualifying lap in F1. Alonso said that if the finish line is just right after the corner, then doesn't matter if you have a good exit or not, you just need to reach there as fast as possible.
Is this a stock STI??.. :o
I knew the car was much past my driving abilities and I consider myself a decent driver. Signed up for a racing course for the summer because of it :) Looks like I was more than right. I needs more skill to tame this beast.
yea, stock STI test
Actually, it' not a beast at all. I had the opportunity to drive a 2011 and it was the easiest-going Subaru I've yet driven. This skill isn't in taming it, the skill is in the madnest required to put it on the edge. You gotta remember, this is a four-cylinder, four-door sedan. Yes, it's holy shit fast , but it's still a Subaru ;]
Key is to master the track... AWD is easy...
Spike Spiegel Annnnnnnd always the mr.expert-vettel-super-driver telling us that we are noobs, classic
***** It's pretty easy.....if you know how.
first time seeing this and wow 2010, feels so nostalgic! pure rally driver movements and calculation of the turns.. circuit and off road are different but have some common theories.
Good comment, its all about the weight transfer to get more speed out of the tires than they can normally handle.
The brakes are available as an option from STI (they were originally equipped on the Spec C RA-R). The Bridgestones are NOT semi slicks but RE070 road tyres in 245/40R18 (which you can purchase - i have them on my hatch STI)
This is what it has:
R205 turbo
R205 6 pot calipers
Flexible tower bar
Front lip spoiler
Bridgestone RE070 tyres in 245/40R18
Aluminum bonnet (standard on Spec C)
Bucket seats
Roll cage
5 point harness
Under cover (Advanced item)
Aluminum fenders (Advanced item)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, it seems there are many pros here who are not happy with the driving. Too edgy they say, a lot of fighting they say, could be faster they say. Google Tommi Makinen I say. Also stop watching the onboards of $500000 hypercars glued to the ground and imagine yourself turning at 200 km/h in a dog like this Subaru.
Harry Mandilas Its more of a wolf .
+Harry Mandilas Yeah, its pretty safe to say Tommi is a better driver than anybody who will ever see this video.
+Harry Mandilas he shouldn't have missed that downshift (accident into 2nd).. the gearing seems to be really short in the low gears and really high in 4-5-6... Half the time he doesn't seem to downshift past 4.
+Kevin Choi Well, tell him . Don't tell me. He has got a website with a contact section. Send him an email and tell him something along the lines: " I, the little schnauzer dog, believe that you are a shit driver and you don't know how to setup a car, ... "
How I drive to work when I'm late
+Skater Bmxer not like that
Just no. Just stop
I can watch this video all day long!
Makkinen is the man. He goes harder then anyone. I've never seen so many spectacular moments from one driver...
I'm impressed how a rally driver isn't rev matching in down shifts.
Rev matching would slow down lap times. I don't think durability was the goal with this lap lol.
disbsam333 Actually, rev matching saves your clutch and gear box and gives your engine a faster response, which will give you faster acceleration after down shifting.
When you rev match, after you release the clutch and start to accelerate again, the revs will be already on point, already high, but when you simply downshift, after you release the clutch the revs go slowly back up (when you press clutch, the revs go down, after u release, they go up again).
But he's heel and toeing every downshift, so how is he not revmatching? He's not grinding gears, and can accelerate immediately, so immediately, by all logic, he has matched revs.
ArchOfficial Look at his feets. Sometimes he doenst heel and toe.
felipegames12 He might just be double clutching.
Nice graphics...PS5?
Absolutely attacked the course! That car is on the limit all the time!
i was there that day..it was indeed heavily modified..had other suspension,STI big brake kit front and rear,stripped out interior,roll cage,also they did not use the 2.5 engine they use in europe but the tuned 2.0 engine,i have seen the car doing his laps live and i can assure that it pushed out a lot more HP than stock
Is this game for Ps4 or Xbox?
My personal opinion is that, rally drivers tend to be the more skilled of the professionals.
As for all the rejects , who comment thinking there can give advice of think they could do better. Fucking wake up lol
7:55 in a scooby wrx standard is a serious bit of driving
Love to watch some of the donuts on here attempt that lol
this driving skills are unbelievable!!!
I found that to be damned good driving. There have been faster cars around Nurburgring but not stock standard road legal family sedans. Having owned and driven a muscle car myself capable of speeds well in excess of this one, I was very impressed. McLaren P1s or Ferrari's were designed for this sort of thing but this Subaru wasn't. He entered every corner properly, hit the apex with his foot off the brake and slammed his foot down on the go pedal at exactly the right time. Well done.
As a Subaru STi owner and track day junkie I can confirm, what Tommi does here is nothing short of "technical excellence and talent execution wizardry". His weight transfer methods of getting the car to turn before and during the corner is next level, and resembles the late Ayrton Senna.
Subaru STi's have 0 driver feedback as to what and when the center diff is locking or clue us in on what its doing unlike a RWD where throttle steer is a thing or FWD where its a constant factor.
Still can't get my head around how his steering inputs achieve a miniature scandi flick to flow more corner entry speed then trailing the brake to the late apex then finally at the corner exit, having enough of a turn moment to not understeer but to instead launch the car off corner after corner its astounding.
1:33 A miss shift by Makinen?????
Once i tried to drive in the UK , it was impossible to get used to changing gears properly using left hand and i gave up . And im sure Makkinen feels the same
it would've been a mishift if he'd switched to 1st, but this is different. how can a 4 times world champion confuse gearbox layout? lmao
It's easy if you're used to shift with right hand.. It's not about how good of a driver you are, it's more about muscle memory. I couldn't shift fast when I bought my first jdm car. Took maybe like 1-2 weeks for me to get fully used to left hand shifting.
He is a human. Shit happens.
a miss shift from 5th to 2nd is very usual when using left hand.
from 5th gear to 2 gear and very high speed:) sound like this 1:30
Yeah, i felt for the engine at that moment. It's a great way do damage your engine as the rev-limiter can't counter act on over-revving when downshifting
The poor engine, that didnt sound good! Lol
Yeah then he put it to 3rd immediately after
He feels the car so perfectly that it's hard for me to imagine how much sensors is on his back! Amazing driver!
Great Track ! Great Car ! Great Driver !!!
Did he go from 5th to 2nd on purpose at 1:32? I
+ph00l1sh Yeeeeeeees :-)
+Andreas Einzmann lol seriously? is that the rally driver thing to do?
+ph00l1sh If braking the clutch, gearbox and the engine as well, this is a rally thing...NOT
That was a mistake IMHO.
Honestly i did the same on a slalom track ;-(
+Andreas Einzmann thanks, that's what I thought but since he is a pro and I am not... I had to ask lol
Fast time no doubt! But this just looks messy and looks like it could be quicker imo
Agreed. I guess it was too foggy. Well, at least it seems to me. Fuck fog.
Callum Jones Its called wringing its neck.
Read How To Drive by Ben Collins and you'll understand...
I think its more to do with the fact that's its a 4wd turbocharged road car . On road car suspension . If you try and drive a Subaru smoothly like you would a rwd car , You will soon find your self in a field at the side of the track . You relay have to get it loaded up correctly to make the most of the grip
+Callum Jones He is looking for grip. Senna used to drive like this.
awesome vid
I have an 06 STI and I have noticed that the 5-4 downshift has to be a very deliberate motion as Mr. Makinen demonstrated. I'm glad to see me and ol' Tommy at least have a missed downshift due to crappy factory bushings in common. I'll put that on my resume, lol.
8:07 lol he really whack the car...
+upbeatmantis86 no that car is made for that kinda road conditions its not a baby porsche its a subaru :P
That's friggin insane!!!.......Tommi Mak you're a gun and Subaru WRX's are the best road cars for the masses ever built.
Congratulations the was brilliant.
Yea, maybe this Subie doesn't quite fit you like a glove, but I'm glad you were still able to get your shot of adrenaline.
I'm closer to the size of Tommi, so I'm very comfortable behind the wheel of one of these little beasts.
Now I find myself watching the vid again. Dream on!
OMFG! Excellent video!!
tommi has balls of steel, such a wicked driver
Wow, nice video. I've never driven at the real Nordschleife, but I've logged thousands of miles in GTR2/GTR Evo, Forza 3, Forza 4, and NFS Shift 2. Trying to reach the highest top speed possible, my cars always felt sort of unglued and unsettled towards the end of the Nordschleife course. Seeing Tommi Makinen do the same things I usually do at the end of the course (including going off into the grass) shows that the game developers did a decent job with mapping the course.
This guy is a beast!
Tommi is one of the best rally drivers of all time,his driving is flawless :)
Brilliant drive
thanks for the reply,that makes sense, I guess the manufactures want to make their cars look faster, most of the cars on the ring I've noticed are a bit stripped out and don't possess all stock parts however still impressive
very unique style of driving. hit some corner with quite dangerous way and very fast!
it received a roll cage, a five-point safety harnesses and aluminum fenders, lowered 5mm to help improve cornering.
what ever else mods, they didn't really make a big deal. it was tuned for this track, but remember it will be slightly different you won't even notice it anyway so it is better suited for daily driving conditions etc.
dam, it's rare to see a pro mishift to second gear, this was amazing.
Tommi, you're just simply amazing.
Nice aggressive lap, It looks like the car has a lot of understeer on turn in, witness the difference grabbing mid-corner kerb does to the cars attitude. Good lap by an old master !
Notice how gently he holds the steering wheel the whole time. The STI is so stable even when its being pushed to the limit.
It's amazing that this car beat other sedans with nearly twice the horsepower and twice (or more) the price!
It has a few upgrades that don't come stock (only 15 hp more than stock, and some improved stiffness) , but a person got build an STi to similar or even better specs and still not even come close to spending what it would cost to buy an M5, CTS-V, etc.
I want that car more than any other. This is true for both interpretations.
Nothing quite like the sound of tires and that boxer roaring together. Great video.
@afqtv No, when he downshifted from 5th, he missed 4th and hit second. He didn't over-rev
cool! my favorite rally driver and racer with my favorite circuit!
Craziest Nordschleife drive I've ever seen :)
Great driving
OMG!! Fast as hell, rally style.
@POSIX2007 the car is suppose to be stock. but as u know, cause is an oficial time it must pass the safety requirments so it need a rollcage. the roll cage add weigth so maybe someparts have been dropped to return as close as possible to the stock weigth...
Tommi, in an STI, on The Ring!!! What a dream video. Notice how he's always either on the gas, or the brakes, never coasting, that's how a pro drives.
Luv the gear grinds and I think wth a few more runs there is some rm there to drop a few more 10ths.. Nice job Suby engineers. The body style is coming back around. So will this be my 2nd STi < : -) on my wish list.
Haha he went over the grass at the end because he wanted to get over the line as quickly as possible! Good video