Battle of the Ports - Bomberman (ボンバーマン) Show 512 - 60fps
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Time Code
00:29 - NEC PC-6001 mkII
02:55 - Sharp X1
04:11 - ZX Spectrum
04:59 - MSX
06:07 - Famicom
07:25 - MSX
08:05 - Gameboy
09:06 - All versions side by side
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Wow. That OG version is absolutely not what I was expecting!
Right! I bet many people will be very surprised.
@@RetroCore i have question can you make video about indiana jones and the fate of atlantis- the action game for atari st, commodore 64, amiga, amstrad cpc
@@RetroCore Its so visually different from the more well known NES version, that had you could have told me "This game is called The Adventures of Mister Ass!" I'd have no reason to doubt you.
I would not have expected such humble/simple beginning for such a well known franchise, thanks for sharing!
It is not surprising that Hudson Soft evolved this example game into a commercial one, then later further refined it into the core gameplay we are now used to and enjoy, that seems to be exactly what they would do. It is impressive how many things they dabbled into, from a BASIC compiler (which in the early 80s required technical know how) to commercial games, then to CPU extensions made for a very successful and powerful console (the PC-Engine). It is such a shame that they disappeared.
They were eccentric and original and I am sure they would have thrived in the post 2000s Indie scene.
I miss them.
I imagine the conversation at Hudson
"We need to change the main character from Bakudan Otoko to someone more interesting and more marketable"
"How about we use the unnamed Lode Runner character?"
"Good idea! Promoted!"
Eric is notorious for leaving a few floaters behind.
Dirty bugger he is.
@@RetroCore don’t use the toilet after Eric
It's amazing how massive a graphical and gameplay leap the Nintendo FamiCom 1985 version of Bomberman made... it pretty much redefined and gives it the distinct identity that we are more familiar with and from a certain perspective seeing the original version on the NEC PC to the Nintendo FamiCom is like the game graduated onto real arcade hardware level of power.
It is truly a shame that Bomberman was never localized to North America until 1989, it's crazy to think that Nintendo of America's management staff was able to become stable and robust in distribution and marketing of the NES that it just makes me feel that Bomberman would have become a much bigger franchise if it had been localized for 1986 or at least 1987.
That was actually really informative. Famicom was the first Bomberman that played really smooth and Lode Runner being a sequel was something I did not know
I had no idea of Bomberman's original look! Interesting!
That UK title though XD
"Eric and the Floaters."
the game's challenge: find your way to the optometrist.
Those early versions where the bad guys can cross over bombs? Just feels wrong.
I know. It drastically changes how the game plays.
A random fact is that since Eric and the Floaters is such a bizarre name change, someone spread in Latin America a rumour that an unrelated bootleg spanish game called Pepe y los Globos (Pepe and the Balloons) was the translated verion of Bomberman for Spain, since he confused it with Eric and the Floaters, and now many think that Bomberman had that name in Spain and make fun of them for that even though it's not true.
I'm not the biggest fan of Bomberman games, but I've played them here and there over the years- I had no idea this is where it started! I was only familiar with the later version of the robot/astronaut looking Bomberman seen in later games. I guess I didn't start playing them until the 16 bit era, so I really didn't know where it started at all!
Yeah, it's amazing how many people don't know the original Bomberman games but I think that's to be expected since in Europe it was limited to the ZX Specturm and MSX plus renamed to Eric and the Floaters 😂, what a name. I don't think it even saw a US release.
I guess many would think the NES version was the original.
Bomberman is actually a fun game.
He has changed quite a bit since his debut on PCs.
He sure as. Just imagine if Bomberman was still a clown.
Bomberman in this early form makes me think of the creepy Junji Ito story, Hanging Balloons. There aren't many stories or games where balloons are the antagonist.
I don't think Bomberman was interesting until Turbo Bomberman, where they had cutthroat multiplayer.
Good old *Eric and the floaters*
I was familiar with the story of Eric and the Floaters, but actually thought the visual style was also changed from the cutesy JPN version, the Famicom style. Live and learn.
Yep, it's a good history lesson this week. Quite rare for Battle of the Ports 😅
Never knew the history, thanks for teaching us.
Glad you enjoyed it
@@RetroCore I very much did. \ ^_^ /
The NES version of Bomberman was really common on bootlegs and multicarts, probably because it had a tiny file size and no advanced mappers.
I would say that is the main reason.
Wow that is 8 bit gory when he dies. XD
Imagine if Eric and the Floaters: Act Zero existed. Also, the classic Famicom/NES that appears in various famiclones and ##-in 1's
"Honey, there's a new RetroCore on, you can have the baby later!"
Lol, nice 😎👍
@@RetroCore 😀
Ironically, the thumbnail says "Bombman", in which it's one of the six Robot Masters from the first Megaman game...
that until Bomberman named appeared.
Bomb Man is different than bomberman as far i know
Nice. Yeah, the original name in Japanese basically is Bombman😅. Only later did it become Bomberman.
@@RetroCore speaking of Mega Man, i was hope you can cover up few ports of the original Mega Man, not the god awful DOS game
@@QuanAnhAnimationMM I'd think the DOS game is considered to be too different to be a port. It's basically a barely finished, if at all, single person computer project they slapped the Mega Man license on.
@@mightyfilm i wonder what Stephan Rozner will think about this
This sure is a classic:)
So that was the reason for name change in case of Speccy. So name or visual changes due to real life events happened even in very early days of gaming...
Yep. Sad but that's is why they changed it.
I love the Bomberman series. I think it's fair to say though that without the enhancements originating on the Famicom port that it never would have went much past a mild curiosity.
I love the origin of this franchise.
Didn't know about this game 🤔... A true hidden gem in concept 😂.
Good video to know about the origin of Bomberman beyond Famicom version
I can remember playing Eric and the Floaters on MSX.
Yes, it did com out under that name in the West on the MSX.
Does “floaters” carry the same toilet connotations in British English that it does in Murrican? Legit curious if the people who named the Spectrum version were trying to be cheeky.
Yes, yes it does. Can't say for certain if this was on the mind of whoever chose the new title, but it probably was.
They were definitely being cheeky 😁
Bomberman’s shits are probably as explosive as his bombs
Boy is Bomberman a classic computer game or what? It is a nice game after all! But wait, from the 1985 Famicom release, you mean to tell me that the Bomberman on that port was a robot this whole time?! That would explain that in a SNES Bomberman Game, when he dies, his eyes disappear and his screen turns off. It's kinda weird to me.
Overall, one of the very good classic games!
Yep, he went from being a clown to a robot 🤡=🤖
Bomberman is one of those games where I absolutely understand how much fun it can bring to others, but I can't get into it myself (this also applies to faster and more varied sequels).
I think the reason it took so long for the Bomberman series to reach the U.S was due to its similarity to the secont half of the Namco/Rock-Ola game Warp and Warp, where in the grid section the player character would lay bombs on a grid of halls to kill enemies and try to stay out of the path of the bombs' explosions.
At least, that's the best reason I can come up with.
But wouldn't that also be the case in Japan as well?
@@RetroCore I said it was the best explanation I could come up with. That doesn't necessarily make it an abjectively _good_ one.
damn, Bomberman is my best games from Hudson Soft themselves.
sadly, Hudson didn't live long. they was accquired by Konami and closed down in 2012-2015
And like everything from 2010 Konami and onwards, they have wasted the IP.
I believe it was 2012. Still, they started around 1973, so I say nearly 40 years was quite long
I thought the mini PCE 😅Konami gave us was a nice gesture.
And here I was thinking that the PC Engine version was the original.
You're not alone 😅
Yep, I think may thought that.
Missing Dynablaster on the Amiga. Its Bomberman just called Dynablaster. :)
That's just the first Bomberman for the Turbografx/PC Engine.
It's not the same game.
I like this game i grew up playing the nes version
Yep, that's on one most are familiar with.
Looks like the big change from the OG computer versions to the Famicom one was that the enemies could no longer walk through the bombs. Which would have been a significant strategy change for players.
Really triggered by ennemies passing through the bombs in the first versions ^^
Yeah, it makes the game super tough.
Always thought the franchise was born on Nec Pcengine 🤯
I think a lot of people thought that.
Nice history lesson.
Glad you enjoyed it
I wish Hudson developed this concept a bit more. Not added things, improved. I guess people just known Bombman... Hudson IP's are owned by Konami I think.
Huh. You know, I'm honestly a little (just a little) surprised that it took this long to get to this one.
I was always looking for the old Japanese PC versions as I wanted to feature them all but emulator issues or lack or working rom stopped that 😭
Didn't know the original version and definitely not what I'd have thought but cool to see..
I recently picked up Super Bomberman R on Switch, I know it had mixed reviews but hadn't played a Bomberman game in years so looking forward to seeing what it's like when I get time to play.
Hope you enjoy it!
"I guess that would've been too cute for the western release"
After seeing 3-D Bomberman, you'll definitely wish they stayed with no faces
>looking that up
You talking the dungeon crawler?
Most 3D installments go with that later "prototype of the Lode Runner" design, 'Hero' being one example.
@@Code7Unltd Yes. I'm talking about the dungeon crawler on Japanese home computers
I know about the games like Hero and 64. I'm talking strictly about the name of the game, 3-D Bomberman.
Bomberman botp?
We are so not worthy!
I bet there are tons of ports. Really super curious. Bomberman is my favortie multiplayer party game. Bomberman SS with ten people is the best experience hands down. Nothing comes close
Bomberman SS is the ultimate version I think.
Ever seen the 8 hour long Bomberman lore video?
Nope. That would bore me so much.
I think you missed ps1 version of Bomberman party edition has both remake and nes version
Really basic Bomberman. The first "Bomberman" I played was a clone on the C64, which came much later (1993)
It wasn't until Famicom release that this became a fleshed out game. Original looks more like proof of concept, rather then a commercial product.
I bet that the Japanese original (Famicom, at least) has the actual plot written in the game's manual🤔
I've never seen the manual but I would imagine it does.
@@RetroCore Everbody remember or at least knows of Donkey Kong. A person once asked me: "Do you know the game's plot?". I could only reply: ".. It's an arcade platformer. Your goal is to reach the highest one so you could advance to the next level."
Then, guy tells me: "That is obvious. What I really meant is do you know the game's synopsis?
Me: ... are you... trying to tell me that there's an actual lore in which the game takes place?! You're nuts."
And then, I've watched Guru Larry's (Larry Bundy) video. I didn't even knew what to think after that😅
No arcade port in "Dyna Blaster"?
Different game based upon the PC Engine remake.
I haven't played any version of the very first Bomberman. But i have Bomberman on the PSP, and Super Bomberman R on the Xbox Series X & Nintendo Switch. Of course they are different games.
For me the most enjoyable Bomberman is Saturn Bomberman.
There's a Hudson soft port called Dyna blaster on the amiga
It's a conversion ( with a different name) of the 1990 Pcengine game
I like the name atomik punk ....sound like comic book hero...
Xd
In Europe it was called Dynablaster or something like that.
I'd have felt ripped off buying a game called Atomic Punk back in the day and it just being about some little ninja dude blowing up balloons. I feel like a lot of Japanese games back in the day tried way too hard to have "cooler names" when brought out in the states, like Salamander becoming Life Force, or Puzzle Bobble becoming Bust-A-Move.
Hi retro core
wow the og looked like a mr do clone ..... they could of put the msx version on the colecovision easily
The MSX and Colecovision were more or less the same on a technical level.
You forgot the Playstation version, that was like the NES version with updated graphics.
The gameplay changed with the Famicom version, enemies could no longer pass through bombs (a good thing for strategy in my opinion).
What about the Amiga/AtariST versions ? Do you think it's not part of the same lineage ?
The Amiga and ST versions are different games based upon the PC Engine version. That's coming next.
Amiga version ❤️❤️❤️❤️ i love it most
That's a different game.
For me the NES version is the one.
Too bad the bootleg SG-1000 version of Bomberman Special was not featured, the poor audio handling for all music makes me laugh every time I play it for curiosity.
Wish I'd known about that one.
Best game where you use bombs in mine is of course Mine Bombers from Finland =)
Mine bombers? Never heard of that one.
@@RetroCore It is not same famous but it was really good game to play with friends. You should check youtube video about it.
I don't have much experience with the NES version, is the PC Engine version too different to qualify for this comparison?
It's a different game.
So, I take it that the PC Engine version is too different to have a featured comparison?
Very different game.
thank god you haven't included sega sg-1000 version
Unfortunately or should that be fortunately, I didn't know about the SG1000 version.
@@RetroCore it's visually similar to msx version but sound is a mess just go and see for yourself
Obviously, the NES is the best of these, followed by MSX (Bomberman Special) and the Game Boy. Surprised you didn't talk about the PC Engine verzion, though I guess you could go all day talking about all the versions of Bomberman 1.
Seeing all the different versions really makes you realize how violent Bomberman's death animation is.
Also, he turns human in the end? What in the Bomberman Zero...?
The PC Engine game is a different game. It's very difficult to follow the Bomberman series.
Why no Amiga, Pc Engine or Pc ports?. Thanks for the video and the CZcams channel.
Because that's a different game. It was known as Dyna Blaster in the west. It was also on the Atari ST, MS-DOS and Sharp X68000, plus an unofficial port on the C64.
Because they are not based upon the original game.
All bomberman games look alike and seem to be the same but the ones you mentioned are more like Super Bomberman.
@@RetroCore Speaking of which, good call using it as the soundtrack of the Intro and Side-By-Side sections.
The 16-bit games had COMPLETE bangers for soundtracks. Even the first one, with its lo-fi samples and all!
Yes, I ESPECIALLY count the Japanese exclusives, which I've only heard as SPC files! :D
Also if Dynablaster come as the next game, remember the Amiga version actuelly used a weird 57hz timing when played on a pal monitor to archive fullscreen, just like BC Kid did. Emulation of those game might not been perfect due that or slower than excepted in 50hz mode.
They look similiar but indeed they are remakes of the 1st game
Isn't there a PC engine original too?
It's more like a remake of the first game
Dynablaster Amiga, ST, PC DOS ? Its the same game just a euro name change.
Those are ports of the first PC Engine/TurboGrafx entry, which is more of a remake or reboot than a port.
Nope, different game.
Don Pepe y los globos
The biggest surprise is that the game box art in the thumbnail makes it look like a cheap bootleg cart. It has that ripoff Atari 2600 cart vibe to it. Also, is it just me, or are the characters in all the previous version overly dramatic when they die? Cuz they just die so slowly with such pathetic sounds and movement. Kinda funny to watch, actually.
Playstation 5 has the best graphics better than this boring