UNION vs. NON UNION PIPELINE WELDER (DIFFERENCES EXPLAINED BY SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED ON BOTH SIDES)

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  • UNION vs. NON UNION PIPELINE WELDER (DIFFERENCES EXPLAINED BY SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED ON BOTH SIDES)
    Austin Ross is diving into talking about union pipeline and non union pipeline. Rather you are looking to be a pipeline welder helper or welder you will find value in learning these fundamental differences between being a non union pipeliner and a union pipeliner. Austin worked as a non union welder for many years before joining the pipeliners union local 798 and becoming a union pipe welder. He shares the differences of pipeline welding job and benefits of non union vs union. This debate of union vs nonunion construction has been going on for a long time. Austin didn’t know much about the united association and had got a lot of negative feedback about 798 pipeline union before he joined. Turn out union welding isn’t bad and pipe welders union isn’t made up of hateful people. The opposite is true also. He worked with a lot of great people when working non union. Rather you want to pipeline welding union or non it’s up to you -- just do it based on educated facts, not rumors. Get positive neutral advice from someone who did non union welding and is now a member of pipeliners local 798. Subscribe for more 798 pipeline videos and more tips and tricks for all rig welders and pipeliners.
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  • @neilouellette3004
    @neilouellette3004 Před 2 lety +12

    Retired Pipefitter/Welder UA Local 4. Provided me with the best career w/full benefits of my life. Made BIG$$$ traveling in the 80's thru till 2000's non stop hitting all the shutdowns up and down the Eastern U.S. Now "Hollywood" is retired w/my Pension and becoming a Snowbird. 6 months winter in Florida and 6 months summers at the Maine beaches. Union all the way!! "Hollywood" signing off. Take care Brothers!!

  • @padroooo
    @padroooo Před 5 lety +79

    I am a retired steelworker and spent 40 years in the mill as a union millwright with USWA 6787. To work in the mill you had to join the union and it is the best thing that ever happened to me. I really enjoy your videos and you have a great attitude Austin, keep passing the word about unions, you either get it or you don't.

    • @rusharley2080
      @rusharley2080 Před 3 lety +3

      Unions suck. Main reason is they keep backing democrats.

    • @freebird1ification
      @freebird1ification Před 3 lety +4

      just wondering what you think about biden shutting down the pipeline last week /

    • @mister3722
      @mister3722 Před 2 lety

      I'm a welder and fabricator in Australia and our union has done a lot for us. I used to be a chef and the chefs union did nothing for us other than collect union dues. Gotta keep them honest

    • @user-pd5ft7ph2e
      @user-pd5ft7ph2e Před 5 měsíci

      Can I join a union right after I finish welding school?

  • @jhno68
    @jhno68 Před 4 lety +14

    i worked for a TERRIBLE company. it took me 30 minutes to list all the osha violations in the place. pay was terrible too, only reason i stayed there is cause i had dropped outta college, went broke, and got injured and needed a check. i was stuck, now that im out and going to school for welding these videos are really helpful!!

    • @zangetsudx1
      @zangetsudx1 Před 22 dny

      Thats why you shop around for a better job. Coercing businesses like unions do are not the answer

  • @WhyTheHorseface
    @WhyTheHorseface Před 4 lety +22

    It is great to watch your video and read all of these comments. Both my dad and older brother were union men and they’ve both passed on. It’s great to read comments from people who value the organizations my dad spent his life supporting. Usually I only hear people saying terrible things about unions. Thank you all and I wish you all the best. God Bless America and all her people.

  • @a387658
    @a387658 Před 4 lety +49

    I just got into the local 344 in Oklahoma City nice to meet a union brother. 👊🏽👊🏽

    • @korbenmurphy6693
      @korbenmurphy6693 Před 3 lety

      im currently in school to do pipe, i passed mig amd duel shield and im on to stick and pipe, how hard was it to get in on the union?

    • @edehlgamez3794
      @edehlgamez3794 Před 2 lety

      How can i apply for pipelines ?

  • @freddyrasheed528
    @freddyrasheed528 Před 5 lety +11

    Hello, I’m not a Pipeline Welder ,Instead I am though a Journeyman/Combo Wekder , and have been for 30 plus years, I have worked both sides also. I am currently with the Union, and it is the BEST thing I could have done , because you are 100% on point.THE BENEFITS. I watch a lot of your content, and YES we are all in this together, Keep up the Good Fight, Great Content . God Bless you and your Family.

  • @chadsmith6183
    @chadsmith6183 Před 4 lety +4

    Former Non Union industry employee. (Matrix Service inc. ) currently a TWS student, and looking to make this a career and in it for the long haul. Thanks for starting this platform. And for being a positive influence and voice.

  • @tylervanderlubbe313
    @tylervanderlubbe313 Před 5 lety +16

    From Ontario been in my rig since I was 21 and been a UA member for 14 years now being united and having a brotherly network is worth a fortune would love to see Oklahoma one day

  • @dellstaton344
    @dellstaton344 Před 5 lety +4

    I am a hobbiest welder, thanks for your videos. I appreciate your approach to showing us the pipeline welding industry.

  • @jimfano5906
    @jimfano5906 Před 4 lety +4

    Thumbs up Job Austin Ross. Your videos are very informative and interesting to watch. People need the information you are offering. I myself was non union and am now union. I am getting a couple certs and then would like to start working on the road. I hope that I can find out more about the upcoming work. Thanks for doing these videos.

  • @jasonhull5712
    @jasonhull5712 Před 4 lety +4

    You are a super humble guy Austin. Enjoy watching your videos man. Good people with good attitudes. 🇺🇸👍👍

  • @gustavoperez2371
    @gustavoperez2371 Před 3 lety +14

    I'm 19 years old currently enrolled at Lonestar down in Conroe TX. I plan on finishing my welding degree then hope to join the 798 union. I really enjoy your videos they inspire me, and help me understand more about the union, and the life of a Rig Welder which is my goal in life. Thank you Austin and keep posting👍🏼

    • @matthewmonge4143
      @matthewmonge4143 Před 2 lety +2

      How did your plan work out for you? Did you graduate and pursue this plan if so how is it so far? I graduate next semester and have the same plan

    • @ullyssesfuentws6296
      @ullyssesfuentws6296 Před 2 lety

      From Conroe tx also🤘🏽 hope you doing good

    • @Hardstyler981
      @Hardstyler981 Před 2 lety +2

      Why get a degree when you coulda just gone to the union lol unless your thinking of becoming an Inspector which reduces the time needed on the job to become one

    • @alexiscostilla4215
      @alexiscostilla4215 Před rokem +1

      @@Hardstyler981to learn

    • @clockspacefilms3025
      @clockspacefilms3025 Před rokem

      @@alexiscostilla4215you will be learning the exact thing in the union. Seems like you rather go to college just to pick up a bill lol

  • @jdstar6352
    @jdstar6352 Před 4 lety +6

    You're great. Thank you for the video. I know nothing about pipline welding and will never do it, but I'm glad there are guys like you out there who do this tough work. Carry on. And stay safe. Never get too comfortable around big things and powerful machines. They can bite. Be well.

  • @mannygonz8363
    @mannygonz8363 Před 4 lety +1

    Merry CHRISTMAS to you and your loved ones as well.
    Thank you very much for your time and input in helping us in the welding field.
    May God bless you always A. Ross
    Greetings from the " Greatest snow state on earth "

  • @MRTYREMULISHA
    @MRTYREMULISHA Před 5 lety +14

    In for the long haul , i am in Australia but i have been in Unions most of my working career 25 + years and enjoyed the comradery .

  • @elibroome1696
    @elibroome1696 Před 4 lety

    I dont know why this video showed up but I thought why not lol. You had me hooked the first 2 min. for not putting up with crap in your comment section. You make great videos. Keep up the great work. Im not a welder by trade other than my own garage but you have opened my eyes to a few things. Love seeing " Make In USA " Workers.
    From central FL. God Bless

  • @haggeoromero
    @haggeoromero Před 4 lety +190

    Don’t sell your labor for cheap, join a union and gain real power over your OWN labor! I pay something around $1400 a year in dues, peanuts compared to the $160000 I make per year, pension, healthcare at $119 a month for my family of 4...gold plated insurance. Unions are what made the middle class and their decline tracks with the decline of the middle class.

    • @rusharley2080
      @rusharley2080 Před 3 lety +9

      It is amazing how you idiots keep voting democrat.

    • @parkercarpy810
      @parkercarpy810 Před 3 lety +11

      Thing is, not all unions and locals are all that great. If ya get into a really liberal one you might not get paid great and you might just get blasting with them telling ya to vote biden. I was gonna join a union hell I still got the test to take but it’s not pipeline and I don’t wanna do that right now. I’m not even 20 and I don’t have a lot of experience so I know I’m not worth no 30 bucks an hour just yet. Plus some unions lock ya in for the duration of the apprenticeship and plumber pipe fitter nearest me is one of those so. But to each their own

    • @parkercarpy810
      @parkercarpy810 Před 3 lety +8

      @@rusharley2080 that’s the biggest thing. Conservative or even moderate unions are few and far between

    • @Wastok
      @Wastok Před 3 lety +2

      @@rusharley2080 It is amazing how you idiots keep finding ways to blame every problem on Democrats, Liberals and Socialists. When your milk in the fridge spoils do you blame Radical Leftists? Was it ANTIFA who left your windows open when last it rained? You're a bad joke.

    • @BUDDAHLOVER
      @BUDDAHLOVER Před 3 lety +3

      @@rusharley2080 not all unions encourage you to vote Democrat. I’ve heard that but not over here my friend. That’s your choice.

  • @Subway1427
    @Subway1427 Před 4 lety +2

    I'm from Canada, never chased the pipelines up here, thought about it quite a bit as of late, but haven't made the jump. Done lots of oilfield jobs, doing fab and plant and refinery work.
    Thing I do really like about this trade is the diversity, and a lot of people dont realize how diverse this work can be.
    Would always like to work in the States, we have a lot of Americans working up here too.
    Love the videos, very Informative. You keep it up, I'll keep watching

    • @exodus3518
      @exodus3518 Před 2 lety

      thats honestly super cool tbh i would love to work in other countries and experience the culture.

  • @joerams777
    @joerams777 Před 4 lety

    I've been in Local 447 Plumbers and Pipefitters Union for about 14 years now. As far as pay goes, upto 8 hours regular Pay. 8-10 hours time and half. Anything after 10 is double Time. Saturdays are time and half upto 10 hours and then its double time. Sundays are all double time. Thanks for all of your great content brother.

  • @hool10
    @hool10 Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks for the video. I am moving from MA to TX in the next month or 2 in a welding union (likely pipefitters) and my current job convinced me with how disposable I was as an "essential employee" and the Netflix documentary "American Factory". I have welded at least around 15 years non-union and I'm maxing out at $20'ish.

    • @mendoblendo321
      @mendoblendo321 Před 2 lety

      Making out a 20iah an hour for non union? Wow

    • @wvjeepguy8178
      @wvjeepguy8178 Před rokem

      You have been non-union for that long and only making $20 an hour? You have nobody to blame but yourself.

  • @chrischilders7498
    @chrischilders7498 Před 4 lety +1

    I’ve been in local 281 sprinkler fitters Chicago for 23 years... I started 2 weeks out of high school. Austin you made the right choices. Your trade is very different.... lay offs and travel. 23 years and still work for the same contractor. Work union live better! Ua trades have very good benefits. Never seen a non union sprinkler fitter retire! God bless brother!

  • @Theillusionist731
    @Theillusionist731 Před 4 lety

    Local 793 Heavy equipment operator here!👌🏼 best career choice I’ve made so far

  • @bps9651
    @bps9651 Před 5 lety +5

    Austin Ross ...As a former UA hand for the benefits we were given so much per hour and had an hour cap per year ..and after that hour max your benefits roll over into a surplus for when your laid off and they had a monthly charge for benefits that would automatically come out of that account till it ran out.

  • @kt.hehner5997
    @kt.hehner5997 Před 4 lety

    Good info. Thanks for your time and keep on welding friend.

  • @ethantroy311
    @ethantroy311 Před 4 lety +7

    Love your channel. Even though I mainly MiG and Tig at work I miss welding pipe. I haven’t welded pipe since I graduated welding school over 6 years ago.

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  Před 4 lety +2

      I understand. I ran a mig gun for 3 years right after high school.

    • @ethantroy311
      @ethantroy311 Před 4 lety +1

      Austin Ross I think I love tig the best. I’m brushing up on my blueprint reading skills lol. Keep up the videos man. Stay safe and God bless.

  • @ryanwestling7986
    @ryanwestling7986 Před 4 lety +3

    I've been in and out of Union work in the haz mat world. One thing I didn't notice covered was that Union contract will change Union to Union so specific contracts will vary greatly. Read your contract before you sign up make sure it's right for you.

  • @tom-vs3lf
    @tom-vs3lf Před 10 měsíci

    I know it's been 4 years since you made this video but I found it very interesting thank you!

  • @kylerocha9286
    @kylerocha9286 Před 5 lety +1

    Love the video I broke out on my 19th birthday and I’ve also heard lots of bad things about union but now I’ll definitely consider getting myself into the union at some point

  • @brianlovell7649
    @brianlovell7649 Před 4 lety

    I’m not a welder but I weld from time to time on farm. I watch your videos because I find them interesting. Funny thing is I found your channel looking for the best way to starch jeans! Keep it up!

  • @frankrizzo1433
    @frankrizzo1433 Před 4 lety +1

    You make a fair comparison between Union and Non-Union, good job. Be safe out there! IBEW #3 NYC

  • @michaelalbro6856
    @michaelalbro6856 Před 4 lety +1

    Austin you should make a video tutorial on down hill welding, I’ve been welding pipe for 30 years but ASME has always made me run 5P & 5P+ uphill.

  • @Emma-iu1jn
    @Emma-iu1jn Před 7 měsíci +2

    I’m trying to get into union welding Thankyou for making it clear

  • @frankiehughes7423
    @frankiehughes7423 Před 3 lety

    So I’m 16 and been welding (non professional) for a while and I’ve gotten where I can lay down a really pretty bead and plan on going to Tulsa welding school. So I’m just watching like all of your videos because I really want to get into pipeline

  • @Dbeas55
    @Dbeas55 Před 5 lety +14

    Haven’t got into it yet sadly but in for the long haul

  • @jayb2257
    @jayb2257 Před 5 lety +2

    Great video 👌 I plan on being a welder long-term

  • @jeepwk6.5L
    @jeepwk6.5L Před 2 lety

    I’m a pipefitter local 157. Some of what you said is different then us. Are insurance is 300 hours. And sundays are double time. Anything after 8 is still right. I could never go back to non union tbh, so much more respect to each other on a job site. And you never have to worry about not having a voice and your money will always be right. I wouldn’t mind giving the pipeline a go sometime though. Pretty good video, nice to see a guy who’s level headed about the subject

  • @EricEVera
    @EricEVera Před 5 lety +13

    Yes! Finally Im no longer in doubt. Thank you for the video very informative! Currently working for the plumbers/pipefitters 648 and nobody has ever gave me any info about 798, cause pipelining is my dream career.

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  Před 5 lety +3

      You bet! I’m glad it was helpful!

    • @rusharley2080
      @rusharley2080 Před 3 lety

      Then you better quit voting democrat, idiot.

    • @jad2484
      @jad2484 Před 3 lety +1

      90% of Union members don't vote democrat.

    • @EricEVera
      @EricEVera Před 3 lety

      @@rusharley2080 i dont vote Democrat, but nice try though lmao and you better stop voting republican, cause ya know, theyre anti union. Vote libertarian, pro unions and anti government... idiot

    • @EricEVera
      @EricEVera Před 3 lety

      @@jad2484 they should all be voting libertarian. Pro-real freedom. Best there is. Pro union, pro gun, pro rights etc

  • @bullhand3391
    @bullhand3391 Před 5 lety +45

    I have mad respect for anyone that is under the hood on any pipe job. I’m non-union. And plan to stay non-union but I manage my finances and work on my own retirement. I love the freedom of going where I choose. Awesome video!!

    • @blazinjaye45
      @blazinjaye45 Před 4 lety +1

      Bull Hand so non-union you can pick where ever you want to go cause i’m a high school senior i will be going to welding school

    • @keemarie1
      @keemarie1 Před 3 lety

      Blazin Jaye join the union. It’s the best route. My husband is a welder/Pipefitter.

    • @bullhand3391
      @bullhand3391 Před 3 lety

      Yes non-union you can choose where you want to go as long as you build your contacts and reputation. I’ve stayed slammed this past year and a half. I’ll never personally join the union. I don’t need to pay someone monthly dues to tell me where I need to go. And I have great insurance and benefits that I pay for.

    • @beaucephusburchel5488
      @beaucephusburchel5488 Před 2 lety

      Yesir right there with ya..I am fortunate enough to be able to make more n or as much non union,love my FREEDOM..CANT PUT A PRICE ON IT

    • @chrislennig851
      @chrislennig851 Před 2 lety

      You can travel to what ever hall has work, so im not sure where you got your info. Im out of local 100 dallas and right now they have 150 travelers because the work is slammed. Utah is another state that is begging for guys to fill positions.

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown Před 5 lety +2

    Great stuff...needs more volume Austin.,.thanks... PB

  • @niceguy1287
    @niceguy1287 Před 4 lety +24

    Works both ways become highly skilled at what you do and you will be in high demand and make a great living either way. i tried early on to join union and was denied for various reasons.Rather than wait for them I moved on and went to a respected trade school and became a highly skilled welder, eventually went to work for an electric utility and made a very good living with great wages, plenty of overtime, paid vacations, holidays, medical and many other perks, retired after 31 years with a great defined benefit pension and fully paid medical. Never worked union a day in my life. Bottom line, work hard, develop your skills and always strive to be better and the options will be limitless and you can control your own destiny .Not pro or con union either way, just saying your skill level and pride in craftsmanship will be the ultimate determination of the success you have.

    • @paulhamrick3943
      @paulhamrick3943 Před 2 lety

      Quick question, is there ever a case where a category of skilled labor, maybe welders, is limited in their pay by union rules? A cousin of mine told me, and this may have been at UAW run plants in Ohio, that he hated the unions because there was a shortage of welders but he wasn't allowed to benefit from that shortage in terms of higher pay, and he'd see other categories of labor at these plants, say a "foreman" or whatever, and they'd be just lounging around all day long making significantly more money than him. I think he said that union rules categorized jobs in terms of their supposed "skill", and that "foreman" is deemed higher skill, therefore the pay range for foreman was set higher than the pay range for welder, REGARDLESS of actual market demand.

    • @rosstaylor3927
      @rosstaylor3927 Před 2 lety

      Foreman usually make around 5% more working Union skilled trades.
      Unfortunately there are slugs out there. Union and no. Union. Guys lookin to play hide and seek for a grand a week. But they usually get found out and sent down the road. Can’t deny the beauty of the forest because of the ugliness of some of its trees.

  • @brandnamecobra03
    @brandnamecobra03 Před 4 lety +3

    You are so right on the be kind to one another we all have the same goals! A great life!

  • @marcuspadilla3569
    @marcuspadilla3569 Před 4 lety

    Non union for six years now.. Looking to go union but??? Probably not.. Always looking to learn from anyone great video.

  • @sheldonhibler4033
    @sheldonhibler4033 Před 5 lety +1

    Ok good deal Iv been thinking about calling local 798 u answered a lot of my questions thank you

  • @s46d45m17
    @s46d45m17 Před rokem

    Hi Austin I started out working as a non union pipeliner back in 1982 I worked there for about 5 years then the company I worked for went bankrupt so I took a few really bad jobs just to get by for about 1 1/2 years this was all as I lived in western Pa, so next came a job offer outta york pa about a 4 hour drive from home at a refrigeration manufacturing company they were nonunion but had a aprentice program set up so I started there, Well after 7 years there I took a forman postion on the installation crew which was setting equipment, condensor, screw compressors, control panel's and all the amonia or freon, water pipeing. We had to pass a 6g pipe test with 6010 root and a 7018 cover but I took many more so if the field was slow or I wanted extra overtime I could weld in the shop to, I also worked in the rebuild shop rebuilding screw and rotary compressors I really loved working for F.E.S. in york pa but after being there 18 years they got rid of my department the installation crew it took them 30 seconds to tell us we were no longer employed there what a kick in the butt that was and the bad part was I loved it there and they treated me great till that day, since then there has only been very average jobs but I'm 58 now and think I will just stay where I'm at, I always wonder if I should have started out in the pipefitters local back in 85 it was offererd to me to be sponserd there I think for retirement I should have been union, but I had a weld rig they paid for all tools even hand tools they paid for I got travel pay room and meals were paid for, they gave me 4weeks vacation the last couple years I was there, 4 sick days and a 401k yeah I would have never left there it was good till it wasn't there. Union at least puts everything in writing what you have to do to stay and make a living with them and seem a little more forthe worker.

  • @Polack-ml9fh
    @Polack-ml9fh Před 5 lety +2

    @Austin Ross. Austin nice video. It’s great to hear you tell your story about joining 798. There’s too much bad information and people who are misinformed about organized labor that it’s important to tell people the benefits. One thing to add that you often hear from nonunion counterparts “I’m skilled enough that I don’t need a union to get me a job”. People need to understand that you don’t necessarily have to sit on the wheel to get a job, you can find you’re own work! If you are a highly skilled tradesman you will be rewarded with contractors wanting to hire you! Stay strong brother!
    ~Local 597 rig welder~

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  Před 5 lety +1

      I agree.

    • @jeepwk6.5L
      @jeepwk6.5L Před 2 lety

      Hell yeah, I go up to 597 a lot. I’m out of 157 pipe fitters. About 3 hrs south of you guys. 👊🏻 stay safe!

  • @my11badkids78
    @my11badkids78 Před 4 lety +2

    Wow these videos are really making me rethink my course in life. I know being a skilled fabricator and certified welder must help to get your foot in the door but I was wondering how much more that would help pay wise while starting out.

    • @chrislennig851
      @chrislennig851 Před 2 lety

      Look up your local union, then walk in and apply. Some locals will allow you to test in, so if you truly know your stuff you can come in without going through the apprenticeship. Depending on where your at California pay for journeyman is $51 dallas has them at $35 but once you add in the vacation and Holliday it increase $5+ an hr

  • @mider9996
    @mider9996 Před 8 měsíci

    I’m not a welder but interested in the trades, thank you for the videos

  • @8BWN
    @8BWN Před 4 lety +2

    Local 464 Steamfitters
    I'm 23 and still an apprentice, I absolutely love it!

    • @mikecapone6698
      @mikecapone6698 Před 4 lety

      Union pride brother geting into the ibew changed my life
      Can’t bear being in a union with all the benifits high wages and retirement .✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼

    • @willytrolls
      @willytrolls Před 3 lety

      Local 1325 represent!

  • @jamesmclaughlinprimitivele4587

    Also depends on your ability to negotiate your non union job.

  • @kylebegay215
    @kylebegay215 Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome video. Thanks im gonna be a pipeliner

  • @WarInHD
    @WarInHD Před 4 lety +8

    Union Ironworker 584 from Tulsa, Oklahoma. I almost joined the Pipeliner Union 798 when I graduated

    • @rusharley2080
      @rusharley2080 Před 3 lety

      You shouldn't have joined either. The pipeliners backed biden and he screwed them good! Bwaaaaahahahahaha! Gonna be dumb ya gotta be tough.

    • @WarInHD
      @WarInHD Před 3 lety

      @@rusharley2080 international backed him, our local didn’t, plus yesterday our governor made a executive order blocking Biden’s oil and gas bill including the Keystone Pipeline so it’s still going to be built here in Oklahoma and Texas. So work hasn’t slowed down for us

    • @rusharley2080
      @rusharley2080 Před 3 lety

      @@WarInHD I pray you are right. I am just some kind of mad at the unions that did back biden.

    • @WarInHD
      @WarInHD Před 3 lety

      @@rusharley2080 oh yeah, every county in Oklahoma voted red. The only other state to do that was West Virginia

  • @marshallmayhem5516
    @marshallmayhem5516 Před 4 lety +11

    6yrs Union pipeline operator. Hopefully in it for just a couple more years. Tired of living on the road.

  • @brentshade361
    @brentshade361 Před 4 lety +1

    How did u get in pipeline iv been welding for 7+ years from mig .25 .35 .45 .52 spray,dual shield I would like to get in to pipe

  • @ashraf9377
    @ashraf9377 Před rokem

    Hi Austin I really enjoy your videos also I’m in welding school love it and soon I’ll be done my dream to get on the rigs. What should I do first join pipefitter union and work my way up then get to rigs?

  • @mikebigbrojohnson8047
    @mikebigbrojohnson8047 Před 4 lety

    Thank You Austin Ross.

  • @adamlucas1185
    @adamlucas1185 Před 4 lety

    Austin,
    I'd love to see a video that covers the specifics of the union. Like the retirement and healthcare benefits, per diem pay, the union pay scale for different jobs, nice provisions in the working agreement that you may not typically get, etc. Also from my understanding 798 covers most all of the country. So I am curious about how a nationwide union works.

  • @cumminscowboy3869
    @cumminscowboy3869 Před rokem +1

    If I want to do pipeline welding where can I go to start my apprenticeship? I was pointed to the steam fitting/plumbing union… is that correct

  • @AdrianGarcia-tv2qi
    @AdrianGarcia-tv2qi Před 3 lety

    Been on the pipeline about 7 years now on the west coast, eventually want to apply for Southwest Gas in Arizona.

  • @lintonoutdoors8287
    @lintonoutdoors8287 Před 4 lety

    I am from Missouri and have been trying to get on pipelining as a helper for a while now. I applied for local 798 as a helper not to long ago.

  • @curtismoreland3076
    @curtismoreland3076 Před 3 lety

    I am an independent mobile welder thanks Austin need to get ahold of you and see about some of them tools

  • @gottoweld5201
    @gottoweld5201 Před 4 lety

    I'm you put the action network in this video, I've been talking about it on Twitter for a while.

  • @FuzzyBk713
    @FuzzyBk713 Před 4 lety +5

    Any rig welders in Houston? Have some questions on how to start a rig truck

  • @morganweller1491
    @morganweller1491 Před 2 lety

    How can you be mean to this guy anyways he's so nice makes great vids especially helped me with my welding lenses thanks Austin

  • @mattbumgardner1904
    @mattbumgardner1904 Před 4 lety

    Hello I’m a year out from graduating a welding school and wonder if getting out and pipeline welding while I’m young and single. Do you think it would be a good idea to do that to get as much money as possible off the bat then find a more stationary job after 10 years or so?

  • @DaveyBlue32
    @DaveyBlue32 Před 3 lety

    For as young as you are you have a hell of good head on your shoulders! Working hard and clean living is the key to a great life. And being very contentious with your spending and banking that money for when you’re older! Unfortunately I was caught up with the rock and roll bright lights and big city lifestyle and life was just one big party and the big paychecks will never end thinking... and at 50 now realizing that my “dorky” buddies that didn’t want to stop by the local watering hole and that were heading home to their families knew what it took me many years and a lot of losses to realize. If you always do that right thing and always work to your very best...no short cuts... you’ll have a great life! God Bless you young man... keep up your good work!

  • @jeffreyplumber1975
    @jeffreyplumber1975 Před 5 lety +14

    one thing about union that i dont think was clear is that the health insurance premium is paid in full no deduction from paycheck. but each person gotta decide for themselves

    • @manuelheredia2329
      @manuelheredia2329 Před 4 lety +1

      The difference between the union and non union is, if worked 25 years on union build 25 pension credits plus benefits if worked 25 years on non union the last pay check will be pension and easely will be replaced by a younger person, if replaced on union by a younger person got be on same path to earned what a union member have earned...

  • @paulcormier7036
    @paulcormier7036 Před 5 lety +3

    Good explanation

  • @welderdude1
    @welderdude1 Před 4 lety

    Good honest information. 👍👍

  • @GaryTolbertJr
    @GaryTolbertJr Před 5 lety +1

    Long haul myself. Laborer out of the 980 hall currently but looking to ‘advance’ to a different trade. Love what I do - not for the money but for the adventure. Not knowing where the next job is and or places you’re about to explore is definitely worth it to me. Never thought I’d be around DC working but look at where I’m at. Not mainline but still pipelining. Safe travels and working. All us hands - no matter the trade or union/non-union have two thing in common. That’s family and a life to make the best of what we can.

  • @tristianfincher4359
    @tristianfincher4359 Před rokem

    Been watching all you videos.i think I'm hooked lol

  • @852motosports
    @852motosports Před 3 lety

    I pipe welded for about 4 years but got sick of the travel so joined local 17 ironworkers id like to go back to pipe but with my kids and stuff its nicer to stay close to home

  • @walterdiczhazy2700
    @walterdiczhazy2700 Před 5 lety +1

    I work for a non union now and have never worked for a union . I'm not a pipe welder I work in a fab shop but I've Been practicing my pipe welding 6010 7018 to land a nice pipe welding job in a union. The more I lean about the unions the more I like it and can't wait to get onto one only a matter of me practicing and learning as much as I can . Just wish I could meet a pipe welder and fitter to learn from to show me the best way to lay welds and fit up pipe so I kinda know the ropes going in

    • @tonyguerra7799
      @tonyguerra7799 Před 5 lety +1

      Your not gonna get a job in a unión just by knowing how to do that,,,a union welder has to be a combo x ray welder

    • @walterdiczhazy2700
      @walterdiczhazy2700 Před 5 lety +2

      That's why I plan on going into an apprenticeship program. Got to start somewhere

  • @billarroo1
    @billarroo1 Před 4 lety

    Interesting, I didn't know that there were non union, pipeline welders, Great Video

  • @jonaht72
    @jonaht72 Před 3 lety +3

    Wish I had considered welding a little sooner. It does seem like a union is the only place where I live (Indiana) that actually has welding jobs and not just watching machines do it.

  • @eddienewby6148
    @eddienewby6148 Před 5 lety +1

    Well said Hand

  • @andrewbakenhus7980
    @andrewbakenhus7980 Před 4 lety

    Need advice on what union to work for which one has the best pay and steadiest work?

  • @zeppefan
    @zeppefan Před 5 lety

    In the carpenters union, the health and welfare hours are used to maintain health insurance. If you have a surplus it is put onto a benny card that can be used for anything medical, ie copays, bills, prescriptions, etc. If you're laid off, your surplus hours are used to maintain the monthly premium.

  • @mikecapone6698
    @mikecapone6698 Před 4 lety +19

    Getting into the ibew electrical Union was the best thing to happen to me . Their was absolutely no future in non union .
    No retirement no pensions low wages .
    In the union we get high wages pensions annuity and vacation checks . It’s a better way of life.
    Union pride till I die getting into the union has been a life changer for me out of poverty and now I’ll be a homeowner soon ✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼

    • @briancreech9990
      @briancreech9990 Před 4 lety +1

      Hell yea brother. I'm local 212. What local are you in?

    • @jeepwk6.5L
      @jeepwk6.5L Před 2 lety +1

      Ibew is a damn good union, I’m out of pipe fitters myself (157)

    • @ewilly91
      @ewilly91 Před 2 lety

      Good to hear brother, ibew 697 gary/hammond

    • @jeepwk6.5L
      @jeepwk6.5L Před 2 lety +1

      @@ewilly91 dang you’re close. I’m actually up in south bend right now on a job

    • @ewilly91
      @ewilly91 Před 2 lety

      @@jeepwk6.5L yeah not too far. Our hall is a walkthrough at the moment. Been on 7 twelves for the last 42 days now lol.

  • @pipeline_hank5277
    @pipeline_hank5277 Před 5 lety +20

    Wait whaaaa.... I thought that dues would be like $30 a week! That’s good. I might look into joining as a helper to get started.

    • @tonyguerra7799
      @tonyguerra7799 Před 5 lety +3

      Even if it was 30 a week do you know how much money we make?

    • @iamsam4260
      @iamsam4260 Před 4 lety +5

      It's worth it buddy. Benefits and pension alone outweighs any pay difference. And they tell you where the work is. You dont have to be on the look all the time. Another call another hall.

    • @Theillusionist731
      @Theillusionist731 Před 4 lety +2

      I’m not sure if all unions are the same, but for mine, I have to pay working dues every week (2% of my weekly earnings) and then there’s the monthly dues as well.

    • @MichaelSmith-gu3tt
      @MichaelSmith-gu3tt Před 4 lety

      Tony Guerra i make more non union pipelining than y’all do union tho

    • @dvbs3608
      @dvbs3608 Před 3 lety +2

      Michael Smith and you have no benefits!

  • @leonwoody2380
    @leonwoody2380 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm in it for a long haul. Tell what I need and what to expect,I would like to learn.

  • @pete389man8
    @pete389man8 Před 5 lety +1

    Kind of late to watching this but Happy Friday Austin!

  • @stupidrunescapeplayer2002
    @stupidrunescapeplayer2002 Před 3 měsíci +2

    when i switched to union, I was getting paid more than my non-union foreman as a second year. He got paid $32 an hour.... the training is way better and they pay for schooling. I'll probably never go back to non-union.

  • @zigzag77777
    @zigzag77777 Před 4 lety +9

    It’s been my experience that people who hate unions never worked for a good one! 798 ALL THE WAY! The Alaska pipeline was a 798 job, damm fine work

    • @dakotatallent9934
      @dakotatallent9934 Před 4 lety

      The union is definitely the way to go but........the Alaskan pipeline was a hell of a deal. Just watch the BBC doc on it.

    • @zigzag77777
      @zigzag77777 Před 4 lety +3

      I was there no need to watch documentary. But thank you. The impossible was made possible.

    • @OUTLAW1983
      @OUTLAW1983 Před 4 lety +2

      798

    • @WilliamPayneNZ
      @WilliamPayneNZ Před rokem

      I really would love if someone sat down as many people who worked on the alaska pipeline and recorded them telling their story. Not the cut down for documentary version but hours of talking. Id love to watch that.

  • @IW1896
    @IW1896 Před 2 lety

    I'm a union Ironworker for last 10 years in Texas its hard here but I am looking into switching trades

  • @mendoblendo321
    @mendoblendo321 Před 2 lety +1

    How does one go about joining a union specifically for welding? I live in northern California and in my first year of welding school. I'm also willing to travel anywhere to work as well anytime anyday

    • @jeepwk6.5L
      @jeepwk6.5L Před 2 lety +1

      Cali is one of the higher paying unions brother. I’m from Illinois which pays well also but definitely google your closest hall and give them a call. If you can test in, you may skip some years of your apprenticeship or all of it together and go straight to a journeyman. Depends what your capable of. On the plus side everyone’s pay is in writing and will always be paid equally

  • @travisbannon3216
    @travisbannon3216 Před 4 lety

    Pipeline welding is career dream of mine south East Kansas just don’t have anyone around to ask about how to get on

  • @miguelflores-lo8po
    @miguelflores-lo8po Před 2 lety

    Sundays are double time brother 🔥

  • @cameronpalmateer8806
    @cameronpalmateer8806 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey just wanna say I think this was a really well done video! I support unions but I don't support pipeline expansion and I'd like to share some of my reasoning to shed some light on the other side. I think it's unwise to continue investing in fossil fuels, from the perspectives of both bosses and workers. The wind has been shifting towards renewables for decades now and renewable energy solutions provide more opportunities for varied employment and long term sustainable positions. The pipeline industry creates many jobs in the building of pipelines, but a relative few in the maintenance of these lines. Renewable projects like solar farms, wind farms, and dams present their own potential environmental hazards but they also provide a chance for sustainable employment that we can develop and leave to the next generation. I think that every pipeline opponent needs to further examine the needs of pipeline workers and realize that we are allies in the class struggle, and ultimately are goals are aligned.

  • @zacharytruex1702
    @zacharytruex1702 Před 4 lety

    The KC clamps are to be run by Helpers or J-men
    Skid sets on mainline are usually laborer work, I am on a Fab job right now and we do set our own skid sets, Crotches and sliders. Cutting with a band and crawler or beveling machine is usually J-men work but most of the time they let the helpers cut to learn how to work everything. Also Eternal Clamps On The front end are run only by J-men. And helpers can break out after there first job. $31.00 a month is our due payments. I Love 798! I joined last year and I also worked 6 months non-union before joining and I definitely love 798!

  • @jermkosche1715
    @jermkosche1715 Před 4 lety +4

    It's honestly suck being 23. Been doing carpentry sence 17. Never had health or life insurance. Makes me really think

    • @tamaralee4108
      @tamaralee4108 Před 4 lety +1

      My daughter and son in law are, like you in their 20's. The joined a union, IATSE, several years ago. Health benefits, pension, union rates, etc. It's really changed their lives for the better. Makes excellent sense for young folks to join. Really worth looking into!

  • @Blue_Collar_Hunter
    @Blue_Collar_Hunter Před 5 lety +2

    Your a good solid dude Austin, lots of good info that you provided. Can you break down transistioning between union and non union, if you can you move back and forth or is that frowned upon? Keep up the good work bud.

  • @tylers717
    @tylers717 Před 4 lety +6

    Local 506 marine and shipbuilders
    I'm 20 a first year steel fab apprentice building ships in Vancouver.

  • @CarolinaBoyTV
    @CarolinaBoyTV Před 3 lety

    Do they have sum in South Carolina because I'm going to start my 2nd sesmester of welding school

  • @dereklintjer9473
    @dereklintjer9473 Před 4 lety

    I love these informational videos but please cut down on the editing break's. Have you ever watched one after you post it Austin? In one minute you have 17 starts and it will drive you nuts. Besides that love what you do man!!! Keep up the hard work!!

  • @rigoelizondo6220
    @rigoelizondo6220 Před 4 lety

    thinking about joining the union for welder, trying to get more insight. any help? in it for the long haul and I wanna retire comfortable

  • @FernandoHernandez-cj7fe

    looking to get into pipe line work. been a scaffold builder/foreman for almost 4 years in all different kinds of industrial sites and have done construction before. will work any amount of hours and days just gotta get the hook up with a welder

  • @kodakvasnicka3355
    @kodakvasnicka3355 Před 4 lety

    hi i am 14 years old and i have always wanted to Ranch but where i live there is no way i can around here but i have always loved welding and that is what i want to do with my friend. And we will travel together. so is it smart weld with someone and your first year share a camper or both of us buy our own camper?

  • @douglashemphill7724
    @douglashemphill7724 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey welders do u know what pipeline welding like in north Carolina

  • @jaggers75
    @jaggers75 Před 3 lety

    I have no experience but would like to get into pipeline as a helper and learn how to weld and eventually be a welder

  • @giveeryazda7655
    @giveeryazda7655 Před 4 lety +11

    UA. Local 400 Fox valley Wisconsin pipe fitters hell yea. Union is the only way to be paid consistently and have a pension

    • @craigadair128
      @craigadair128 Před 4 lety

      Do you have any concern about the union pension system being insolvent? I honestly don't know anything about it just thinking about some of the state retirement programs.

    • @GigglesUnsupervised
      @GigglesUnsupervised Před 3 lety

      I'm from Wisconsin too! And I'm currently trying to get into the steam fitters 601 put of milwaukee because they offer pipeline programs and it's closer any more info would be greatly appreciated!!