Outer and Inner Sleeve Protection For Your Vinyl Records
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- čas přidán 26. 04. 2020
- One of the ways I protect my record albums is the use of outer and inner sleeves. What are those? Well, in this video, I’ll show you their benefits, what kinds to get, and how to properly use them.
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Do YOU use outer and/or inner sleeves? If not, would you? Do you have a different way of protecting your vinyl? Let me know that, and anything else, in the comments below.
I am trying to find info on storing gate folds and double album sets!! Do you still store the album outside the cover? If so what outer bags do you use for this to fit the cover and the albums, thanks
I protected mine by leaving them at my parenrs' house when I moved out in 1993. I'm pretty sure my parents haven't played my Sabbath and Grim Reaper records a whole lot. Good as new!
Fantastic methodology! And utterly foolproof. You should be the one doing videos ;)
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You are lucky! My parents threw all my albums in the garbage when I moved out.
One thing to avoid when inserting sleeve and especially the record itself into your outer sleeve is to drop them in; this will damage your record over time along the edge and can cause nasty cracks etc, just gently slide it in by not using gravity and pushing with your hand on the edges instead.
The suggestion to keep the record inside the inner sleeve on the outside of the jacket is an amazing tip and I plan to do that on all of mine. Allows me to not have to handle the jacket as often. Awesome
I was looking for a video that showed the proper way to sleeve and protect records and glad I found this one! I’m a newbie so this helped out a ton!
New record collector here! Great video! You explained everything perfectly! Thanks for all the information!
TOTALLY agree with the method in which you store your records. Record in anti-static inner sleeve, in the back and facing to the L/R so dust doesn't get in. Fantastic video - every vinyl record enthusiast needs to see this!
I wasn’t really a fan of leavening the record outside it’s sleeve but seeing this changed my mind. Plus at least 30% of my records are colored, so it’d be nice to turn it over to see the beautiful colored record in the back.
Where has this channel been all of my CZcams life? Great channel. Just found it this morning. Gonna keep me busy in quarantine all week long.
Glad you enjoy it! And that my videos help out in the boredom relief during this whole virus nonsense.
Nice job on the video! I store mine just as you do 😊 one thing to mention is not to hold the vinyl pressed between your fingers/thumb. Always hold w inner palm and thumb on the edge only and your two center fingers on the label. Otherwise, your needle picks up whatever oils etc are on that first track! Love the vid though, well done.
ClearBags are great, I use the saleable myself (I don't feel put down!) and I love the material, like you mentioned the album just looks better in that crystal clear sleeve!
I totally agree!
Awesome tips. Thanks 🙏
Hello. Nice and very useful tips. Thank you for sharing
That's all i need to know, great!! Thank you👍
Very good advice, thank you.
Very helpful video. Thank you!
this is really helpful! thank you!!
very good video and the audio quality is fantastic 👌
Thanks! I use an external studio mic instead of the on-board one and it really makes the difference. Good ear!
I ordered some from Vinyl Storage Solutions last week!
Cool! I've seen other videos on them and they seems like a pretty good company.
Although flaps are somewhat of a p.i.t.a, one major advantage is that the flap+adhesive allows the cover to be pulled tightly around the cover. This makes the cover look nice and smooth, and prevents bunching when sliding on n off the shelf.
I'll admit that, particularly on the gatefold-sized sleeves, there can be a bit of room in there at times. But, I'm still good with it and it does its job.
I store my records exactly the way this gentleman does! The only difference is that I like my MoFi sleeve opening on the right as I hold the stored record in the outer sleeve with the back of the album facing me...That way when I remove the MoFi sleeve with record I can hold the inner sleeve with my left hand and remove the record with my right hand (since I'm right handed)!! If I were LEFT handed I would position the opening of the MoFi sleeve on the left with the back of the album facing me...removing record with my dominant left hand! I wonder if this gentleman is left handed!? I've been storing records this way for at least the last 6 years and wish I had done so originally with the previous records I've collected! I started doing this when I began getting records by mail...The sellers shipped the records that way to "avoid ringwear" on the outer cardboard album jacket! I figured if it's best to SHIP the album that way it also makes sense to STORE the album that way!
Thank you for the advice :)
I now frame my valuable records that I want to keep in NM/VG+ condition- such as my first press Nirvana Vinyl, Alice in Chains, Sex Pistols, GNR, Metallica, Motley Crue etc. These are now displays and investments
I use clear outer sleeves from Big Fudge. They are pretty cheap, quailty is good and both regular and gatefolds will fit into them.
Looks like I should check those out. Thanks.
the problem i found with them is they say they are clear but are very cloudy.. not clear like these from ClearBags
I still like simple paper sleeves. They are the easiest to deal with especially if I'm DJing and need to grab records fast in and out of the jackets. I do use some plastic inners at time especially for records where the jackets are getting torn or worn down on the spine etc. Then a more durable plastic inner is needed
Definitely do what works for you. There really is no "one true way" here.
I'm also sometimes 'torn' about whether to use outer plastic sleeves or not. They are bulky and take away from the cover art (the dull ones I tend to use) I like the poly / shiny ones you use especially without the flaps. Hate the damn flaps. I will often cut those if I get a record with a sleeve with a flap on it. The flap just makes it extra cumbersome and there is dread that I might get a jacket stuck on that sticky part!
Sometimes I like to just go for it and leave the record without an outer plastic. Go wild in a way. Sometimes I even like a record to look a bit worn and old or played often. Then I'll start to hunt a mint copy of a jacket lols.
Personal preference is often the way to go.
Nice recommendation!
Thanks.
I've seen some people talk about an all in one cover? You can seal in the cover art work and there is a pocket in the back to put the actual record in? Not sure the name, if that's not a good method then for sure I'll try this!
I use vinyl guardian inner sleeves same as mobile fedility but half the price in UK
I wish you showed how you put the x2 or even x4 LP sleeves, do you just put all 2/4 in the back? Very informative video though, thank you
Yes.
i mostly focus on cleaning my records and putting inner sleves. i have outter sleves but i dont use them as much as i used too.
Sounds like you give your records some more than adequate care. Good on ya!
Thanks for the video man! I just bought 2 mil outer sleeves, is it worth it to pay the extra bucks for 3 mil or is 2 mil fine? Thank you
Great video 👍🏻 Have you ever experienced any issues with the mofi inner sleeves. I have seen videos and reviews commenting on a “film” being left on vinyls. Any insight would be appreciated.
Not at all. I've heard more of that "film" thing being more related to the old plastic sleeves. I remember Metal Blade and Combat in the 1980s having a lot of records in those. I've had no problems with the mofi inners I use, though.
What about gatefolds that have 1 record in a paper sleeve that features original artwork/lyrics? I think I want a rounded inner sleeve for these ones, but how do I protect the original artwork sleeve?
How do you store/insert original sleeves into your system?
I'm brand new to collecting records and I bought 2 pocket outer sleeves from vinyl storage solutions, and clear inner sleeves from Amazon. When I went to sleeve my records I was ultimately uncomfortable with storing the record in the back pocket, it just looks vulnerable to scraping on my shelf when I pull out the jacket and also there is nothing stopping the record from sinking to the bottom of the sleeve and just resting on the shelf. I'm thinking it might just be that I need to buy more expensive inner sleeves that provide a little more protection, or am I over thinking this?
I thought about the same thing. I would not put them outta the jacket, into a sleeve and the jacket and the now sleeved up record in to the sleeve of the jacket…😅
The problem is, I got some expensive vinyls from Westside Gunn for example and I don’t wanna open em and then putting em into sleeves. For protection and resell reasons
What if I’m putting my My record jackets in a frame and hanging Up, best way to store my records that’s in a inner sleeve?
I went the Blake sleeve flap route for a while but they just got on my nerves, the flap tends to curl and look unsightly and one printed inner sleeve got ruined when it stuck to the adhesive 😡. While Ive seen many people store the record outside the sleeve as you do I like to keep mine in the jacket. The jackets job first and foremost is to protect the record and I prefer to have as much protection between the record and the outside world as possible. Also I don't believe the hype that it reduces ring wear. You still have the record sandwiched between two jackets, it's just two different jackets. I think using outer sleeves and not tightly packing is sufficient to avoid ring wear. Great video though, I enjoying seeing how different people store and look after their records, a fascinating subject for all vinyl geeks!
Glad you liked the video. Yeah, there's always room for personal preference in all of this. Depends on what you ultimately want, and things like convenience can factor in as well.
I agree with you, those Blake sleeves are more of a hinderance than a help as they also stuck to my covers, luckily no damage. I threw them all in the bin !
I like to keep the record in the jacket as well. The first I heard about keeping the record outside the jacket was probably sometime in the 1990s maybe? I thought it was weird. Just like the outer sleeves with flaps (reminds me of my comic collecting days) For me I get most of my track info from the back of the jacket. If I need more detail like track times I'll open the thing up to look on the label. Years ago I knew enough about my collection that I rarely had to inspect the record before playing it.
@@klandersen42 i agree storing the record outside of the jacket always seems counter intuituve to me. I mean thats why it has a jacket to protect the vinyl. Ring wear sometimes is just inevitable
When a gatefold has 4 LP’s do you sleeve them all individually and stack them all in the back? This is what I’ve been doing but I’m pretty new so want to make sure I’m not causing unnecessary damage
Can storing the records in the back of the sleeve cause ring wear to the album cover next to it?
What do you do when you have a double vinyl like pink Floyd the wall?
What if its a double record how would i put in the inner sleeve?
for the double vinyls, do you put both vinyls in the back of the cover or leave one in the cover and one outside?
Both in back but in separate inner sleeves.
How would I store a gatefold/2 or 3LP using these sleeves I am new to collecting and I am struggling to figure out how to store it properly
There are bags out there that are large enough to accommodate. Once you have those, all records go in the back per usual.
Need help with getting my record out of the paper sleeve it is stuck in there
Doesn't having the opening of the sleeve at the top invite dust into the record?
More good info to know. I'm assuming they make sleeves for 7" singles?
There are companies that definitely make them for singles as well.
Are polyester outer sleeves a good choice?
What do you do to protect your box set covers?
If I want to buy an outer sleeve non-flap, how many mils should I get? It’s going to be for storage and want to keep the mess protected as possible. Also, I would prefer the crystal clear wants to see the records but those consistent sometimes be pretty flimsy.
4 mils works great 👍🏻
What about double lp’s? Do you put both records out of the jacket aswell?
Yes.
What about double LP or gate fold
What do you recommend for factory sealed releases…would you take the seal off and then store or not? Thank you
I’ve got about 10 albums I bought over 10 years ago that I really liked but never actually had a system to play them so kept them in their original shrink wrap, I’ve since got a system and open those albums and every one is warped and unplayable because the shrink wrap kept getting tighter over the years and buckled them! now with every album I get I bust it straight out of that original wrap and store them in sleeves like in the video
Does the record get scratched or damaged easier when its outside and unprotected by the sleeve?
I have not found that to be the case.
The sleeves with flaps just plain annoy the frack out of me. Remind me of my comic collecting days.
YES! A perfect analog. I use to collect comics as well and switched bag types somewhere in the middle of it all. A real pain.
Is it necessary to own inner sleeves?
And when you have 2 vinyls? Do you use two differents inner sleeves and put them at the back?
Yes.
At 5:07 is that a double album? Do you put the vinyls together?
Separate inner sleeves, same outer sleeve.
What do you do for double LPs , surely you dont have the two records next to each other? Otherwise nice idea
Yes, I have two records more or less next to each other. They're fine that way and it's a widely done practice by many collectors and vinyl community members all over, not to mention the plethora of commercially released double-record sets that come in a single sleeve.
I'm a right-sider innersleever.
I can't stand the outer flap style, but here's the problem. Music on Vinyl reissues a lot of limited press records, and they put a really nice gold foil hype sticker on the outer flap style bag. Now I have an issue of how to save the hype sticker. My only idea is to cut around the outside of the hype sticker, and slide it inside the jacket to save it *shrug*
This is the first year I've been collecting the hype stickers -- which I cut out of the shrink or polybag and save in a pile for when I get something along the lines of a small photo album-style book to put them in. Some folks tuck them in the corner of their outer sleeve in front of the jacket so they can see them. Didn't think I'd save them but now I find that I'm doing just that. Good luck with whatever solution works for you.
@@TheAccusationNetwork someone could make, and probably already has made, a whole video on hype stickers- what to do with them save them or not? Including on CD jackets. Do they actually add value to a resale? I don't think they do. I could be wrong tho. If not then why do we all like to save them? I also cut them out sometimes and toss it into the jackets. But then it could fall out and get lost! Lols. Things collectors think about.
I do exactly that - cut them out carefully, and add them inside (with whatever other goodies you may or may not have with the release). I doubt they would add much to resale, and I'm generally not looking to resell until my deathbed, but I would be stoked to pick up an LP at a 2nd-hand shop that had a couple of those little bits in - part of the tangible history of the thing that brings joy :-)
Search YT and hopefully you will find a method you like. The one I decided on was to use a clean skillet on low heat and a paper towel. Cut the shrink wrap away leaving an 1/8 of an inch on all sides and drop on paper towel. Carefully watch looking for shrink to wrinkle or bubble. Using tweezers separate the hype sticker from shrink and immediately transfer to clean outer sleeve.
What do you do with double albums? Both records at the back?
Yes.
What brand of those outer sleeves do you get? I can’t seem to find outer sleeves that fit single LPs I could only find the ones that fit gate folds and they are just too big for the single LPs which ones do you get? Thanks.
ClearBags. www.clearbags.com/12-5-8-x-12-5-8-crystal-clear-album-cover-no-flap-100-pieces-blp1nf.html
@@TheAccusationNetwork thanks man!
When Possible I Slip My Sleeve Inside The Original Sleeve 🎉
If you have 2 lp’s, do you put them in the same inner sleeve or do you put them in separate inner sleeves?
literally came here to ask this
Different probably.
Separate inners. Same outer.
"im sure youve got tons of vinyl friends out there" ... no..
"tons of friends" .... no....
"tons of vinyls"... YES!
LOL
Somebody ought to rethink how these things work or don't work. In my experience one size
does not fit all. The typical size of a single album cover is 12" 1/4 × 12" 1/2, double albums
are just slightly larger. The problem with the flap style sleeves is that the flaps are too short.
I just use a piece of tape to seal them. I do not use the strip provided. Hey, it works for me!
do you trow out the paper sleeves that the records come in
Nope. I put them in the jacket.
ok i will try your method
@@TheAccusationNetwork
Are you on DISCOGS?
I am but I don't do any public-facing stuff there. I am on Bandcamp, however, if you'd like to follow that. bandcamp.com/magistermgp
How about storing 3 vinyls that come in one sleeve not a gatefold
I have my Anthrax live 3-LP set stored in the same way. And all is well.
@@TheAccusationNetwork but all together in the back of the sleeve?
i keep mine in the refrigerator
The six people who disliked this video enjoy dirty scratched up records
Having the vinyl exposed in a thin plastic is a bad idea. Easy to dent. Keep in jacket with outer sleeve to protect cover from wear. Simple