Therapist Reacts to WALL-E
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Why is curiosity so important? How do we stop being complacent?
Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright are reacting to WALL-E and comparing and contrasting curiosity and complacency. Jonathan talks about how WALL-E’s contagious curiosity affects everyone he meets and shakes them out of complacency. He also explains why curiosity is so important for our mental health. Alan is in awe of Pixar’s filmmaking and storytelling expertise in conveying so much with so few words. Pixar is so good that he’s kind of upset. Damn you, Pixar!
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Written by: Megan Seawright, Jonathan Decker, and Alan Seawright
Produced by: Jonathan Decker, Megan Seawright, Alan Seawright, and Corinne Demyanovich
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Can you talk about Osmosis jones
Do look at how realistic these movie portrals are Like inside out or JimmCarry grinch vs origional grinch
Do you think the beutiful ones lead to Beatiful ones
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... what does "complying with the FTC mean, exactly, and why is it reassuring?
One thing I find unmeasurably astounding is how cute Wall-E's design is. Conventional wisdom dictates that cute design needs to be round, and smooth (or otherwise fluffy), and soft. In conventional design, Eve is the prototypical "cute" design, but she doesn't read that way on screen. Wall-E on the other hand is about as far opposite that conventionally "cute" design aesthetic as you can get - he's hard, and boxy, with lots of sharp angular corners and rigid rusty texture, yet he reads a cute IMMEDIATELY.
I think a strong reason is because you can actually see his soul in his eyes!!! Eve's are blue and solid, while Wall-E's actually can move and flex and imitate eyebrows. All of these can convey an array of emotions! ❤
It’s the eyes. The eyes are adorable. 😄
@@DoofenSpyroDragon16 And his voice: it's endearing like a puppy dog's one.
@@danielleking262
It's alll about the face and eyes of a character that convey that feeling.
Aand he looks like number 5 from short circuits ❤
this movie aged so well
I know!
Truth
Preach, I can't believe that it was released 16 years ago this year. It's simply timeless.
We’re headed towards a Wall-E like future
Indeed, it did ☺️☺️
The opening of this movie is some of the best filmmaking I’ve ever seen. It’s sets the scene and tone of the world perfectly without a single word. It’s the epitome of “show, don’t tell.”
I counter this with the opening of UP.
@@hallaloth3112same studio. They’re masters of storytelling.
@@Wastelander1972 Well aware its the same studio
@@hallaloth3112To be fair, there is some monologue in the opening of Up when Carl and Ellie were kids (when baby Carl was in the movie theater and he was watching the film reel).
I think Wall-E stands out because there aren’t even any people in the opening scene, just a robot and a roach and somehow we’re still getting so much setup and characterization. No words are needed. It’s a much better example of “show, don’t tell.”
"When my emotions are too big they leak out my eyes."
Same, Alan. Same.
Be it movies, books, music, real life... Tears aren't always sad. Joy, wonder, awe, things you don't understand but feel it so hard and you can't do anything but hit the waterworks.
I totally get the "crying from joy / admiration / beauty of something" phenomenon-- that always makes me think of the time I went on the ride at Disney's Animal Kingdom called "Dinosaur!" for the first time. BEFORE that, I had actually already spent decades being a "thrill seeker" with many different types of rides, BUT my experience with heavily immersive thematic experiences was quite lacking. During that ride "Dinosaur!", I was SO very impressed with how they had designed that ride: From the convincing and dramatic surrounding environment, to how quickly CLOSE the ride vehicle got to the very-well-designed dinosaurs, to the "frantic antics" of the ride vehicle itself (it felt like we were riding on a big mouse or squirrel lol)... by the end of the ride, my eyes were literally leaking from excited disbelief and amusement at how good it was!
I've also done a lot of research on emotional tears in particular (from either joy or also many instances of sadness too) and they are associated with feel-good brain endorphins. It sure took long enough for me to notice those first-hand (at about age 35!)... that was when the movie "Inside Out" happened to strongly trigger tears from me (before then I didn't think much about tears at all and rarely cried from anything). BUT after that (and after which I actually got cravings for MORE tearjerker movies lol)... I did a bit of research, and when I saw endorphins were likely involved in that "new" craving of mine, I totally embraced it, haha.
Yes ♥
Damn leaking!!!
That's a sensation that I honestly haven't experienced since I was 4.
Make of that what you will.
When I'm super excited about something I sometimes feel like bursting into tears. Not just tearing up a little, but feeling like I legit want to bawl my eyes out. I don't usually do so, but I feel like it. It's like I just have so many emotions and I really don't know what to do with them. This happened most recently a few months ago when I went to Derek Hough live tour (I love his dancing, and always wanted to see him perform but never ever imagined I would; then I found out a week prior that he was doing a dance tour and would be in a city just an hour away from me, so I totally jumped on that opportunity!!) and I was fine up until I was in my seat, the lights went down and introductions were starting... and I was just so thrilled to be able to see him and all the others live, I almost just busted into tears right there. Same thing when I went to see the Simone Biles tour back in 2021 (never ever thought I'd get to see any gymnasts perform live, and I got to see her, Ellie Black, Chellsie Memmel, Jordan Chiles, Melanie de Jesus dos Santos, MyKayla Skinner, Laurie Hernandez, and so many more!), and also when I went on a road trip to Cincinnati a year ago and finally got to see Fiona the hippo at the zoo there (I'm obsessed with hippos, since I was old enough to know which animals were which, and I've loved Fiona ever since she was born premie 7 years ago!)...so yeah, things like that, where I have such happiness and joy about being able to (finally) experience them, it's like it's too much and it just comes out through crying/wanting to cry. I also struggle with alexithymia, identifying my emotions, though, so I think my brain gets mixed up when I feel strong things.
Eve screaming no when wall-e gets crushed will always be gut-wrenching. It's such a visceral sound that conveys her pain, grief, and absolute panic on par with any other similar scene. The work that they had to do storytelling wise to make that one word hit like a truck is incredible. Love this movie
Just hearing it again got me burst into tears.
@@underblader9675sameeeeeee 😭
omg yes and her desperate "please" just breaks me every time
A powerful, close second would be when she thinks he died in the pod, she's in straight-up shock and denial at the thought, and then the relieved joy she expresses when he shouts, "EEEEEEEVAAAAAA"; personal favorite moment.
jesus
haven't gotten to that part in the video, haven't seen the movie in years and just thinking of it made me tear up
Curiosity is a trait that often feels squashed by life. Glad you’re talking about it ❤
Because curiosity leads to such vile things like “new ideas” and “questioning authority” and we can’t have that no no no. (Sarcasm btw)
@J-manli gosh, you're so right. that comment hit me right in the curious inner child😂 I'm still trying to relearn how to have that childlike wonder and curiosity, now that's I'm an adult and no one can scold me for it lol.
@@heehoopeanut420 I am seriously so lucky to have grown up with the best friend that I did that helped me never ever lose sight of my childlike "irresponsibility"
And when I say it out loud that actually doesn't sound great but if you don't have those moments when you're playing video games together until 4 in the morning before his test what do you have really
The American school system is a top notch method of beating the natural curiosity of youth out of ya.
Wall-e is the only simp i respect.
I've always loved how everyone who meets Wall-E learned how to wave because of him 😊 he's teaching them how to be more social whether they realize it or not
Very true and everytime I think about this movie I think about that one typing robot that Wall-E taught to wave, just like you said!
I just love how you can see it thinking and trying out the waving motion, something it could easily aleays have done but obviously never even considered. Then even when Wall-E is gone it doesn't go back to typing, it waves by itself and is in awe at this small motion it can make and the meaning behind it and what a difference it makes for it.
Then the next time the robot sees Wall-E it's waving jubilantly! You can tell it's become this robots new favorite thing to do and will now happily wave to every single person it meets!
@@4yinyang yeah, which shows that not only curiosity is contagious but kindness is too.
What I find most interesting about that is... Who taught Wall-E to wave? Think about it. Seven hundred years, all his companions gone, all humans gone... The only real reference he had for socialization were the super old movies that he could fenagle into working. Through his own innate curiosity, he learned socialization from people who'd passed 800+ years before him. And that bit of gained knowledge is what he then used to teach others. The sheer breadth of time encompassed is mindboggling. Those actors couldn't've possibly envisioned what their work would mean for humanity so far in the future.
I love how prominent character growth through curiosity is with the Captain. He went from being so through the motions to delivering the most chilling line, "I dont want to survive, I want to live!" Gosh i adore this movie!
I always loved the captain in this movie, he's awesome 😎
I love the captain. Always felt a little bad for him with the inevitable "pizza plants" letdown
I always viewed Eve as like a really cool, intelligent, and career-driven person while Wall-E is very relationship and partner-focused person. In the beginning, they both are at the extreme levels of their respective traits, and it isn't until they both inherit a little of what the other person values that their relationship finally flourishes. Under the many marvelously written themes, there's a story of two people who in the beginning seemingly are completely different, but let their curiosity guide them to learn and accept one another and find the beauty in each other. Love takes work with a spark of curiosity, and once you find it you flourish.
Damn this a great comment. Yes, this is so so true..
@@brightnova6972 i concur, absolutely top-tier comment❤
Eve is Meridith Grey and WALL·E is Derek
It reminds me of Yin and Yang. Two opposites swirl around each other, while each force has a little bit of the other contained within itself, like how the white swirl has a little black dot in its center, while the black swirl has a little white dot in its center.
You made me tear up 😂
as a young animator, it means so much to me how much you both appreciate and respect animation as a medium of storytelling! with much to stress and worry about in this industry, your refreshing takes give me hope and remind me of why i love what i do!
Thank you for animating! 😊
same here
I'm trying to get into animation my self and I want to go to call arts but I have no animation experience or even a computer that can animate
I'm not very well versed in anything to do with movie or tv productuion but I think animation is under valued. I love live action but animation is my favorite medium. It can be so expressive and can have a higher suspension of disbelief and can achieve things that cgi just can't do in my opion. It can set and shift tone so easily and give characters unique designs and make even characters with the same voice actor feel soo soo different.
@@Hallow_Shade now you can imagine how us animators feel about all these live action remakes....
I frickin love the scene when all the people start passing the plant to Eve, because they easily could have made the humans bumbling obstacles and the robots fix everything. But this little bit shows that even in their cartoonishly complacent state, people are compassionate and try their best to be good. They don’t know Wall-e or even what’s going on, really, but they’re eager to help.
I don’t know I just really love how this movie portrays the people as lost, but good.
All the ADHD kids (dx’d or not, myself included) felt INCREDIBLY SEEN in the scene where WALL-E is going around collecting random stuff while on the job. To date that is one of the most personally-relatable scenes I’ve ever seen in a movie lmao
Also worth noting-it sucks that the term “red pill” has been co-opted by incels, but this movie was before that, so: when WALL-E bends Mary’s headrest-thing back, her shirt turns from blue to red as the screen falls away from her and she sees the “real world” for seemingly the first time. I know there have been many, many nods to The Matrix in lots of movies, games, shows, etc. but there’s another pretty overt one for ya.
Me too! As an ADHD adult, I'm always so surprised how much I kept that joy of curiosity since childhood. I think that's why for some people it codes me younger than my actual age. I'm totally fine with that. I'll take the joy of existence over cynical "that's just the way it is, I can't change it" complacency.
Same, I was always curious, I wanted to learn and invent, but all that ever got me in school was paddles and punishments at home. Interest that weren't the norm were frowned upon. The only teachers who I felt really got that were
1) the older art teacher who just sounded so in love with the process of creation and went out of her way to make you notice things. She pointed out how wearing a nice silver pendant against a black shirt made it more noticable and interesting. She encouraged experimentation with art.
2) The new first year on the job teacher, I was worried about her because she was the daughter of a teacher who literally broke three paddles on me. When my parents divorced she made sure I was doing okay.
Years later I learned her mom did warn her about me. She'd told my mother she didn't know what to do with me, one day she was helping her husband at his ranch and watched them try to break a horse for hours but it wouldn't give. She said the moment clicked in her mind. She had told my teacher 'you can't break him'.
BlueValleyTS, same here. I was late diagnosed with AuDHD not long ago and it explained so many things I went through as a child. Then and today I still collect unique things such as stamps. vintage hats, a 1960s photography camera, and it works better than most modern cameras. When this movie premiered I waited until days later, I knew the cinema would be packed with lots of people. When I did go it was with a small group of friends. Liana finally said to me "I get it now. Now I know why you love bygone and vintage items and you are always teaching us new things" She made me cry so bad! This was during Wall-E and Eve's space dance. Damn! 😢😭😢😢😭
#cryinglikeacinematographer #vintageisthenew
What really impressed me about Wall-E is how much they were able to convey with almost no dialogue.
Also, when I see dirt on something I just cleaned, it's like, "foreign contaminant."
It is a silent film with few inserts of talking.
@tenofprime
Yes but the little dialogue there is... I'm not sure it would have worked as well without it.
My all-time favourite Pixar film. I love how much EVE gradually softens the more time she spends with WALLE. Initially, she's singularly focused her directive, but over time, WALLE becomes more important to her, to the point where she chooses to try to fix WALLE. By contrast, AUTO never strays from his mission, and tries to kill WALLE.
To be fair, AUTO doesn't have much to any interaction with WALL-E, right? It only saw WALL-E when W-E was messing up A's plans, so i can see how A wouldn't be changed, lol
@@shelbyallen246 Yeah, and Auto was also told by it's creator to NEVER let the humans back to Earth even if a plant gets discovered.
My all time favourite too! 😊
well small correction, AUTO strayed over generations, he had two commands which contradicted each other and he basically he lost hope and went AUTOcratic to maintain what he thought was a functional path since it had been "working".
one thing I like about the movie is that the villain died long ago. AUTO is not the villain, it had orders to never return to earth and so was following them as it was designed to do. AUTO is just as much a victim of the mismanagement from B&L as anyone, except in this case it amounts to brainwashing.
EVE’s “No!” when WALL-E is smashed gives me the most violent, abrupt tear in my eye every time. You can HEAR how shattered she is!
19:33 it's not dumb and embarrassing, it's endearing and really sweet !! I really appreciate all the ways that you two embody non toxic masculinity on this channel, and Alan, you letting yourself cry at big emotions and be emotional on camera is one of those. it's fun to make light jokes about, sure, but genuinely, I really really love how genuine you *are*. thank you both
I know he was joking, but I love how emotionally vulnerable Alan is. Same for Jono. And I love that theyr'e comfortable enough to joke about it while still embracing that trait.
It's a given to be vulnerable. I'm not gonna lie, I struggle with it and I come off a bit fake that way. Please just do, stop thinking and be yourself. Judgement is a thing in life, don't let it dig your heart from its stems. Love.
What's "funny" is Alan foreshadows his little prank on Jono, and Jono did cry over two robots falling in love. And they're both not-embarassing nor stupid for it.
Impeccable storytelling in the making. Love the duo's take on positive masculinity!
As a dancer, “define dancing” has always been one of my favorite scenes in any movie, ever. It’s just such a beautiful depiction of the power of art to foster emotional connection. This whole movie is a dance, starting from the first act that’s pretty much entirely non-verbal. Dance is powerful for its ability to communicate complex emotions that often don’t have precise words, and this movie is a thesis on that idea. Thanks so much for your commentary ❤️
Well said, actions [like dancing] speak louder than words
Something I learned about the "Directive?" scene. The first three times she asks him in other languages are German ("Weisung?"), Japanese ("Meirei?"), Swahili ("Ayimonkos?") then, of course, English. Took me 'years' to find that out. So thought I'd drop that here, just in case people were curious
Thank you for sharing!
I always wondered that
Another interesting fact, when asking "name?", one of the languages she cycles through is Huttese, the language of Jabba & the other Hutts from Star Wars!
The third language is actually Sushili and she asks ("Are you Among us?")
Really should've been English, Mandarin, Hindi, and Spanish. 5 billion people on the planet speak AT LEAST one of those.
If everyone went to space...those are probably the only four languages anyone will use.
What you guys talked about here reminds me of how many of us as children had this burgeoning boundless curiosity that was stamped out of us by adults, either by societal expectations and schooling and career, or just by abusive bitter people who took offence to it. I remember just being in love with the world and wanting to explore every bit of it, never undeterred, my parents often talked about how as a toddler they’d have to tie me to somewhere literally becuz i would crawl so fast all over the place to explore, and in nature i just loved to wander around. But now im just deathly scared of the world and how much it can hurt me and how anything I do in it could have consequences or take advantage of me. I just think of everything that could go wrong, every person that could pick on me and harass me just for my looks or just for being a tourist or anything really. Luckily I can still nurture my curiosity through various film, music, and my academic pursuits in world history. I think all of us would love to have that childlike curiosity back, to just feel like we go anywhere in the world.
I find the idea of "schooling" having stamped out curiosity a bit odd. I suppose if you were in a school that was just trying to prepare young people for the workforce, that could be true. And, unfortunately, more universities are trending in that direction. (With enrollment down, it's the programs that promote curiosity that are getting cut first.) But schooling should not be that way. Mine wasn't. My schooling was generally good at promoting curiosity. (But I am also an engineer. Curiosity is important for my line of work.)
What I would add to your list, though, is religion. It often asserts that a god is responsible for things to avoid doing the hard work of exploring for legitimate answers. In doing so, it sets a bad precedent. In other words, why put in the work of exploring for an answer to a question when it's acceptable to make one up?
@@TheMidwestAtheist I will agree having attending public schools, secular private schools, and (multiple) religious schools. The first two encouraged curiosity quite frequently, the last stamped it out at every single opportunity and actively punished asking questions.
Thank you for sharing this. I do resonate with what you shared. I recently discovered the word eudamonia and I felt the urge to feel as alive as I used to when I loved and thoroughly enjoyed the pursuit of learning. ❤
It was hard to go through high school and mantain my curiosity (mostly) intant. Classmates saying you are weird for knowing stuff outside of the shcool curriculum, teachers literally reading the book and not explaining things (or saying that you had just to memorize everything), a lot of homework and not enough free time, insufficient sleep, presure and stress for your future...
Not to mention the huge change in behavior from childhood to adolescence.
I am so desperately trying to maintain this curiosity in my daughter
Two scenes in this animated movie make me cry *EVERY SINGLE TIME* even if I get to see the scenes without the rest of the movie and they are:
1. The scene where Eve sees the camera footage and understands that Wall-E took care of her.
2.When Wall-E was getting crushed and Eve screamed. This one has me bawl my eyes out.
I totally cry when I'm overwhelmed with emotion (good or bad, doesn't matter) too so don't ever be embarrassed for crying. It's a mechanism of rebalancing emotionally. ☺️
For me it's when Wall-E can't remember Eve
Also it’s great that the villain is basically just a manifestation of tradition and orders from long ago which still keeps everyone complacent
And that it follows directions blindly while literally every other robot doesnt
I also like to think that AUTO fears losing his purpose once the Axiom goes back to Earth. If there's no use for the Axiom anymore, then there's no use for AUTO.
WALLE's curiosity about the world around him is so endearing, and makes him all the more lovable. While it's easy to become cynical and jaded by the world around us, WALLE shows that you can still be idealistic, and that there's still so much beauty in this corrupt world.
The ending confirms that!
When I was a kid, my dad took me and my little brother to the cinema to see Wall-e and then afterwards drove us to the nearest waste collection point. It was a while ago and a lot has changed since then, but at the time waste collection composed of hills and mountains of garbage being formed outside of cities. I still remember the smell, the dirt and the overpowering grayness. It was exactly like in the Wall-e movie, but in real life. I am so thankful that he did this, it was the biggest lesson I have ever learned.
... well, I volunteer with a ocean a waterways clean-up crew. I have to tell you that that is. still, exactly EXACTLY what waste collection / dumps look and smell like.
"I don't want to survive, I want to live" this line stuck out to me so much as a kid up until now. It's such a movie ahead of it's time.
Also, I watch a lot of you guys uploads for over a year now. I'm hoping you could react to another Disney+ series Percy Jackson and I want to hear a lot of your thoughts from the whole season!
As a trans person, this comment and then being instantly transported back to that scene was like a punch in the face. My too big emotions are coming out if it now.
Alan just needs to use the word "End" to break John more so we can have "Crying with Jonathan."
😂 that made me laugh waaaay too hard 🤣
It broke me too! Need more of his pranks 😂
I knew that wasn't the real ending and it still got me lmao
@@TheFangirlOtaku 🤣 the maniacal laughter from Alan got me 🤣
@@DoofenSpyroDragon16 #CryingwithJohno Petition!
I think this movie is such a beloved classic for a reason. Not only has an aged well, but it told a story in such a unique way. A story that a lot of us can relate to in terms of seeking connection and being optimistic. I have a friend of mine watching this movie with his kids in the backseat of the car and he never understood what was going on because all you can hear is Wall-E and Eva saying their names! 😂
I think this is possibly the most I’ve laughed of any Cinema Therapy videos. The look Jono gives when asked if he’s seen Wall-E 😂😂!! Bravo to the whole team you knocked out of the park😊!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
@@CinemaTherapyShow This is such a great movie and your channel is amazing! I think the humour in this episode was great!
I laughed. I cried. I learned. And of course. I watched a movie!
The voice actor of WALL-E was also the sound designer. Ben Burtt is a legend in sound design: "Burtt is notable for popularizing the Wilhelm scream in-joke and creating many of the iconic sound effects heard in the Star Wars film franchise, including the 'voice' of R2-D2, the lightsaber hum, the sound of the blaster guns, the heavy-breathing sound of Darth Vader and creating the Ewoks’ language, Ewokese."
26:34 EVE's pain-ridden "No!" when WALL-E gets crushed just absolutely rips out my heart every. single. time. It is perfectly representative of what immediate grief and heartbreak feel and sound and look! Now I gotta watch this fantastic movie again!
It's also less of a "No" and more of a *scream*. That's in-the-moment pain.
I couldn't agree more, this movie is such a masterpiece. As to how Pixar animators make this work, it's pure magic to me. Just genius.
I actually exactly love it so much because it does tell so little by words. You have to feel it all.
That less is more storytelling. It’s great to see that in kids movies. Treats the audience like they’re not stupid.
Hey internet dads! I am a psychology major striving for a career in child psychology and I cannot put into words how amazing your videos are. Not only do they expand my knowledge on psychology as a whole, but you help me feed into my curiosity about how characters reflect humanity. Thank you for being you!
New. Comfort. Episode.
Side note: I love the fact that you guys are watching and being curious while making this episode about curiosity. This movie moved me in that way but it also moved me how the characters express their passion so vulnerably and I think you two mirror that perfectly ❤️
This episode reminded me to be curious but also reminded me to not be afraid to be excited about the things I love around people. Thank you! (to everyone who worked on this episode)
Can I just say how much I love your editor(s)? Interjecting random movie and TV clips to follow what was just said is EXACTLY how my brain works.
Exactly 💯 Anytime you can randomly drop Edna Mode into an episode, just ramps up the humor! ❤ The editors! ❤
Alan, when you said that your emotions are so big and they come out via crying, that hit me hard. I am the same. I also feel it’s dumb (but it’s not dumb). #crywithalan
Same here 🙂
🙋♀
I totally get the "crying from joy / admiration / beauty of something" phenomenon-- that always makes me think of the time I went on the ride at Disney's Animal Kingdom called "Dinosaur!" for the first time. BEFORE that, I had actually already spent decades being a "thrill seeker" with many different types of rides, BUT my experience with heavily immersive thematic experiences was quite lacking. During that ride "Dinosaur!", I was SO very impressed with how they had designed that ride: From the convincing and dramatic surrounding environment, to how quickly CLOSE the ride vehicle got to the very-well-designed dinosaurs, to the "frantic antics" of the ride vehicle itself (it felt like we were riding on a big mouse or squirrel lol)... by the end of the ride, my eyes were literally leaking from excited disbelief and amusement at how good it was!
But ALSO:
I've also done a lot of research on emotional tears in particular (from either joy or also many instances of sadness too) and they are associated with feel-good brain endorphins. It sure took long enough for me to notice those first-hand (at about age 35!)... that was when the movie "Inside Out" happened to strongly trigger tears from me (before then I didn't think much about tears at all and rarely cried from anything). BUT after that (and after which I actually got cravings for MORE tearjerker movies lol)... I did a bit of research, and when I saw endorphins were likely involved in that "new" craving of mine, I totally embraced it, haha.
So... I would say totally NOT dumb :D
@@Kingatje I totally get the "crying from joy / admiration / beauty of something" phenomenon-- that always makes me think of the time I went on the ride at Disney's Animal Kingdom called "Dinosaur!" for the first time. BEFORE that, I had actually already spent decades being a "thrill seeker" with many different types of rides, BUT my experience with heavily immersive thematic experiences was quite lacking. During that ride "Dinosaur!", I was SO very impressed with how they had designed that ride: From the convincing and dramatic surrounding environment, to how quickly CLOSE the ride vehicle got to the very-well-designed dinosaurs, to the "frantic antics" of the ride vehicle itself (it felt like we were riding on a big mouse or squirrel lol)... by the end of the ride, my eyes were literally leaking from excited disbelief and amusement at how good it was!
But ALSO:
I've also done a lot of research on emotional tears in particular (from either joy or also many instances of sadness too) and they are associated with feel-good brain endorphins. It sure took long enough for me to notice those first-hand (at about age 35!)... that was when the movie "Inside Out" happened to strongly trigger tears from me (before then I didn't think much about tears at all and rarely cried from anything). BUT after that (and after which I actually got cravings for MORE tearjerker movies lol)... I did a bit of research, and when I saw endorphins were likely involved in that "new" craving of mine, I totally embraced it, haha.
So... I would say totally NOT dumb :D
@@yaypanda6 I totally get the "crying from joy / admiration / beauty of something" phenomenon-- that always makes me think of the time I went on the ride at Disney's Animal Kingdom called "Dinosaur!" for the first time. BEFORE that, I had actually already spent decades being a "thrill seeker" with many different types of rides, BUT my experience with heavily immersive thematic experiences was quite lacking. During that ride "Dinosaur!", I was SO very impressed with how they had designed that ride: From the convincing and dramatic surrounding environment, to how quickly CLOSE the ride vehicle got to the very-well-designed dinosaurs, to the "frantic antics" of the ride vehicle itself (it felt like we were riding on a big mouse or squirrel lol)... by the end of the ride, my eyes were literally leaking from excited disbelief and amusement at how good it was!
But ALSO:
I've also done a lot of research on emotional tears in particular (from either joy or also many instances of sadness too) and they are associated with feel-good brain endorphins. It sure took long enough for me to notice those first-hand (at about age 35!)... that was when the movie "Inside Out" happened to strongly trigger tears from me (before then I didn't think much about tears at all and rarely cried from anything). BUT after that (and after which I actually got cravings for MORE tearjerker movies lol)... I did a bit of research, and when I saw endorphins were likely involved in that "new" craving of mine, I totally embraced it, haha.
So... I would say totally NOT dumb :D
WALL-E is my favourite Pixar film! So glad you guys talked about it!
Edit: Just watched the first 1minute and 15 seconds and I teared up! Didn't expect that. Amazing intro! 💕
So glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
This is one of the greatest movies ever made.
Had a breakdown in the cinema watching this. The part near the finale where it seems he might have forgotten everything completely crushed me. To this day, I don’t know why I had such a reaction, as a moment later all was well. It’s remarkable when characters can truly connect with you emotionally. Reminds me of your recent exploration of HOOK.
The fact that even therapists can find stuff to unpack from a relationship between two robots. This movie is a gem.
I love y'alls energy today! You always make me feel better when I'm down. I'm super happy you covered Wall-E too! It's such a classic, but it's also so relevant with everything going on in our environment.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching! :)
I have to say, I love when Mo challenges WALL-E when they first meet, like he is saying "come on, I dare you to try that again", and wall-e puts dirt on his face, and Mo just freaks LOL!
The way Wall-E looks at Eve when he sees her for the first time looks exactly the way I felt when I saw my wife for the first time
I love how everyone and everything Wall-E comes into contact with throughout the movie is almost immediately changed in some way. Some in small ways, and others profoundly, but his ability to upset the established order (in a good way) is what causes an immediate ripple effect. Masterful storytelling.
Wall-E is such a wonderful example of a movie that perfects show don’t tell-primarily the opening. Sure we get a video explanation of the Axiom but throughout the story we get to see the characters’ growth and the adaptation of the story for ourselves. We get to see what we’ve done to our world and the consequences of our actions without needing any prior knowledge. A lot of Disney (and even the occasional Pixar) movies nowadays try to spoon feed us information through character conversations or through song.
I remember a couple years ago I watched a video where somebody went through how much more interesting Tangled is without the 5 minute intro where they give us the entire backstory of what happened. Yes Tangled is still a great story, but we don’t get to engage with our curiosity the same way when we already know what happened. We don’t get to experience Rapunzel’s realization *with* her. So many “kids” movies focus too heavily on expecting that a movie won’t do well if the audience has to put some thought into why things are happening, when really I’d argue a lot of the ones that deprive us of our curiosity are the ones that are far less fun to watch.
I was eight or nine when I saw this in the cinema, the first time I watched a movie in english on the big screen (I'm dutch). The subs where distracting me so I just didn't read them. Even though I couldn't tell what was being said, I understood everything, from beginning to end.
CJ the X did that video! To anyone interesting, watch it, it's awesome and watch their other video, cause they are awesome in general.
Like I've said in comments there, I more less did what CJ did, unintentionally, my family was watching it on a DVD and my teen edgyness didn't allow for saying yes to joining in when they asked, so I skipped the opening and then some, but got curious because I heard "Mother knows best" and like them, I wholeheartedly believed it made more sense, had better pacing and was in total more enjoyable without the opening info dump.
@@deirenne next time, Ill make sure to watch that movie without the opening part!
One of my favorite Pixar films! I have some fun trivia for you guys. Michael Crawford is the actor in the Hello Dolly 1969 movie clips, when he filmed the song at the beginning that goes "Out there! There's a world outside of Yonkers!" they kept doing takes that weren't working, until someone asked him not to think of New York but to think of the stars. When Michael Crawford saw WALL-E decades later he said, "That's exactly what I was picturing when I sang this song!"
As a primary school teacher to lots of children whose first language is not English, Wall-E is a masterclass in nonverbal communication - it is amazing to show clips of this film to tiny kids with limited language who can articulate their thoughts about the story and infer emotions from the two robots based on the tiniest shifts in expressions.
One of the best decisions of my life was when I made the blindly curious decision to major in forestry and natural resource studies. I knew next to nothing about it, but that lack of knowledge was translated into a passionate love for nature, trees, and conservation. Now it’s my whole life compass. I would have never gotten to experience this adventure without curiosity.
That's wonderful, thanks for sharing. 😊
what you said about dying when you stop being curious, hit a little hard. I struggled with depression and suicidal thoughts because I didn't know how to connect with people (autistic) and I stopped trying. It's been 20 years since then and I'm now 400 pounds, but I recently went back to school so I can learn how to be a mental health counselor. I'm starting to get better, but I have a long way to go. Once again, thank you for your content
Best of luck on your recovery!
This hits so hard. I'm so young but it really feels like I just can't connect to people at a fundamental level. Interactions just become, stale after a while. It makes me think about myself, and if people see my interactions as stale too.
I feel like I just lack some internal sense of "social instinct". We're supposed to be hardwired for sociability, but I just find it so hard. Not just because it's scary or overwhelming. Socializing just feels so incongruent. It feels like there are hundreds of little factors and subtle variables and cues that are impossible to keep up with. It feels like a pseudoscience, like there ARE parameters and guidelines, but they are so inconsistent that it makes it impossible to reach any objective conclusion.
It feels like it's not worth seeking connection because I KNOW I'll hurt people or myself in the process, so it's just not worth it. I'll share too much, or too little. I'll be either to clingy or too distant. I'll never be in that perfect Goldilocks zone, I always stray too far into one extreme.
It's just so stressful. Why does socializing need to be this elaborate song and dance. Why can't we just be honest with each other and just tell each other what we want and need.
Wishing you all the best on your journey to recovery
I found this channel a few months ago and it was one of the best things that could’ve happened. I’m a big movie fan and the advice is always spot on. You guys never fail to bring a smile :)
Welcome and thanks for being here and watching! :)
Such a great movie! Many thanks to Jonathan and Alan. 🤖 Cheers to the writers Andrew Stanton, Pete Docter and Jim Reardon.
I just watched the directors cut of this yesterday, and my gosh, this movie is still such a gem. It teaches all of us lessons, yet is simultaneously so fulfilling amidst the tragedy around it. It's inspirational and still trail blazing in many regards. 😊 :')
Well said!
@@CinemaTherapyShow Thank you! I unapologetically cried while watching you guys watch certain parts of the movie. When Eve says to Wall-E later on that HE is now her directive, I can never help but smile and cry to it. It's a wonderful, joyous thing. :') 😁
directors cutt????????????? YESSSS
@@mydriasisintensifies6139 It's on their Patreon page. :)
WHERE CAN HAS DIRECTORS CUT?! 😮😍
I first saw WALL-E on opening night with my family when I was 8 years old. I became completely enamored with it and spent the rest of the summer being obsessed with it.
11-12 years later and me and my partner watched WALL-E like 4 times during quarantine and we bonded over it.
Much like EVE, I was easily angered and saw my partner as an annoyance, but as we spent the months together, I began opening up to him. And him being the sweetest person I know, he loved and accepted me the way I was.
WALL-E already had a special place in my heart but because I fell in love with my babe over it, now it’s cemented its place.
@djmutt2000 - Lovely story. Keep watching "Wall-E" periodically to keep the cement firm!
If I ever got into a relationship I would want it to be just like theirs
This is such a beautiful commemt
I write science fiction stories and seriously, Eve's character development mimics one of my characters (Created before the movie came out) Eve seems cold and even dangerous at the beginning but Wall-E never gives up on her- and in the end, she's learned so much from him because of his patience.
One thing I always loved was that at the very end when Eve repairs Wall-E and it doesn't quite bring him back until she gives him that *spark*.
I just wanna say, you guys convinced me to go back to therapy. I spent a while just getting myself to a point where I was ready to mentally prepared for CBT but I’m so glad I’m back. So basically, thank you Cinema Therapy for helping me accept help.
Cock and ball torture?
We love CBT 🙌 best of luck on your road to healing friend
THE BABU ROBOT HIMSELF!! 💙
He's so insatiably curious, it's adorable. And that rubs off on Eve, much like her responsible nature does on him c:
Agreed, I love stories where radically different characters gradually learn from each other, and become more balanced individuals.
@@trinaq Exactly!! They reach a mutual equilibrium on their journey together ^^
@@trinaq It's nice when the two people depicted in a relationship have a journey of growth, rather than one person specifically being the one who's always right in the story. As well as the relationship itself not being dysfunctional. Eve gets frustrated at times, but it's clear she does care for Wall-E.
Still one of my favorite love stories in fiction.
WALL-E was my favorite movie growing up, and it’s still one of my top three favorites if not still my favorite of all time. Thank you guys for covering this masterpiece of film! Your insights have given me new reasons to appreciate it!
This is the first movie where I really noticed the diversity of textures in a 3D animated film. Just considering shiny Eva vs dirt covered Eva is awesome.
Lol, I seriously didn't get the "Earth has the stuff to fix Wall-E!" Never once until you explained it.
It is often said "curiosity killed the cat". But that cat wasn't prepared. WALL-E does prepare himself by taking a different approach to Eve
He does get shut down later, but he was still prepared in a sense, because Eve was there to turn him back on
That's part of being prepared is to have someone you can count on to help out
"curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back"
About the maintenance robot that was stranded outside the ship after the dancing scene, it's called BURN-E and Pixar made a short detailing its story throughout the plot of the film! I believe it was included in the physical releases of the film.
I was just beginning a debilitating illness around the time that this came out, and just before I went into the hospital, my wife and I decided to spend the day at the movies. We saw Nolan's The Dark Knight, then followed it up with WALL-E. Talk about an emotional roller coaster! Two of the best films ever made, and it's crazy that they shared a marquee... much like Oppenheimer and Barbie fifteen years later.
Pixar was so good at short films that they took a 9 or ten minute short and successfully stuck an entire movie onto the end of it
Pixar is at its best when it's able to tell beautiful stories with such care and maturity. I love this movie.
I think its important to recognize the difference between being complacent and content
I love how the ending when wall-E is fixed he has reseted himself not knowing everything he has that “directive” in him which is to trash items. It’s eve that activated that curiosity that Wall-E gives her and wall-e is back because that core, his center has always been there.
Curiosity and being present is some of the most important qualities to me in life. I've seen so many people who have just checked out for 10-40 years. Living the same day over and over has always seemed like death to me.
I'll never forget watching this movie in theaters for the first time, and the scene of them trying to get back to earth happened. I had been holding in the tears until then, but then my youngest sister, in a quivering, little voice, asked "Is Wall-E dead now?" and I lost it. My goodness, why is this little robot movie so powerful.
The scene where Wall-E gets crushed by Auto when the ship is tilted gave me something akin to a panic attack from sheer horror and sadness. I can't remember many movies from my memory doing that.
I almost didn't want to continue watching, but it is a testament to how much one ends up caring about Wall-E and Eve.
AAWWwww I totally get that!! But to answer your question, "Um... it's Pixar" :P That story reminded me of THIS story of mine: I've done a lot of research on emotional tears and they are associated with feel-good brain endorphins. It sure took long enough for me to notice those first-hand (at about age 35!)... that was when the movie "Inside Out" happened to strongly trigger tears from me (before then I didn't think much about tears at all and rarely cried from anything). BUT after that (and after which I actually got cravings for MORE tearjerker movies lol)... I did a bit of research, and when I saw endorphins were likely involved in that "new" craving of mine, I totally embraced it, haha.
The SPECIFIC part of "Inside Out" that really got me was when Joy was stuck in the pit thinking Riley might never be happy again, ESPECIALLY at her line of "Do you remember when she used to stick her tongue out when she was coloring?" If my roommates had not been watching with me, there would have been a literal FLOOD. But, as it is, I HATE crying in front of people (and have actually never done it), SO I managed to "hold in" external tears... BUT it took SO much effort that it actually was PAINFUL to hold in! So I am guessing that probably accounted for my having a continuing craving for tearjerkers... something STILL needed to be let out lol.
You know, when I first saw Inside Out, I didn’t find it that sad and didn’t cry. But then I went through high school which was a huge change, and I had a very, very hard time in tenth grade. When I watched Inside Out again after all that, I cried. I cried when Riley came back to her parents after running away and expressed she missed home while tears streamed down her cheeks. It somehow conveyed the hurt and grief I felt from getting older and all the fear I felt at school. I remember thinking to myself once during that time period that I wanted to go home, which didn’t necessarily mean I wanted to go back to my house, but that I wanted to go somewhere where I belonged and felt safe and happy.
@@puggawugbug6231 Yup that part of the movie was definitely intense. I probably would have cried at that part myself if my brain hadn't been so broken from what I did with that earlier part. And yup that sort of "before and after real-life development" you summarized definitely happens a lot. That sounds like my experience with "The Land Before Time." I saw that one many times as a little kid, and although I knew there was really sad stuff going on in that, I never cried. Then I saw it in my 30's and couldn't hold it together for most of the movie.
IMO WALL-E is one of the best examples of "show don't tell" in fiction.
I would like to thank y’all for this channel from the deepest pits of my heart. Especially for the hard days when humanity seems slim in people I interact with, or like the weight of the world is coming down full force, these discussions bring me new light and a breath of fresh air, like everything makes sense in the universe and all will be okay. I can’t begin to explain how much I appreciate it for all the years I’ve been watching. Even with the episodes based on movies I haven’t seen, they give me a perspective on another relevant topic that either helps now or down the line. Thank you
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The fact that WALL-E got into The Criterion Collection just tells how compelling and important this film is. ❤
This movie is so incredibly wholesome and also soul crushing... I love the story so much, but the earth dying is oooof 😬
I know what you mean
@Miniflageolle - Unfortunately, with the current complacency and even outright denials, the Earth may soon look like Wall-E's Earth does in this movie. Get it together, Folks!
Technically, M-O (standing for Microbe Oblirator) isn't a germaphobe, his job is to keep things clean and free from germs (and dirt), he's like a janitor or a cleaner that is a stickler, making sure that a place is spotless (literally and figurativly) and is very by the book. Okay, he does get out of his zone literally but it's only his drive to keep the place clean that he goes out of line to clean the ship after WALL-E's mess (and WALL-E himself) which manages to do from the start of act 2 to the end of it, then his job is done.
I'm autistic and this movie tought me so much about body language and facial expressions
This is the relationship everyone should aspire to, two beings that just want to spend time together and learn about each other
It's cool that the ship is called AXIOM, as in "a statement that is accepted without proof". Never noticed that before
Some people find this movie boring but i think its a must watch. Definitely a masterpiece ✨
Someone said to you in public that they found this boring? Jesus if someone is bored by this than i wish them much luck in this world,
Dude. I love you two so much. The work you do is just great. Never a bad episode.
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Eve's scream when Wall-E gets crushed gets me every time. I was listening to this moreso than watching, and that "noo!" sounds she makes, makes me sob instantly, every. single. time.
Love Wall-E! I feel like I couldn’t truly appreciate this movie until I was older.
I love not only the storytelling aspect, but the color scheme. In the beginning, Earth is just a deserted rock, and even Wall-E himself falls into the ruined, old and brown color scheme, but then there is the plant. One of the only things that looks new and fresh and bright. Directly after the plant Eve comes. She is pure white, clean, fast, advanced, not only everything associated with the new world, but is completely opposite to Wall-E. Wall-E is an old fashioned and slower bot, but Eve is more experienced and bright in contrast to Wall-E old dirty look. That is one main reason Wall-E and Eve work so well, is they are complete contrasts to each other, but both love one common thing which is the plant. No matter what era you are from or how much times change, there is always some beautiful things that stays the same.
Another amazing example of Pixar doing CGI from the perspective of a cinematographer and treating every scene like being filmed with a camera…and it is beautiful
Curiosity is such an underrated virtue. Something happened in my country recently which really cemented for me the downsides of not being curious. When all you do is stay inside your bubble, you become easy to scare and even feel entitled to stay in there. That makes it so easy for meaningful change to get shut down by scare campaigns aimed at a short-sighted population.
Out of all the episodes I’ve seen from you guys, I think this is my top pick for how funny you guys were (also it’s frickin WALL·E, I love this movie to death)
The way I clicked IMMEDIATELY. I wasn't sure I'd like this movie when I first saw it but I fell in love so fast.
Also we had to study this movie in my animation class. So much personality and so many things to learn from one sequence with NO dialogue from our protagonist. Really speaks for the storytelling from the writers and animators!
Another note: you can see how prevalent AUTO’s control is with the fact that Eve, a robot tasked with searching for plant life on Earth, with supposedly most, if not all, animal life gone (at least, from BnL’s perspective) and her first response to movement possibly suggesting at life is to blast it, I kinda get the feeling she may have unknowingly been tasked with making sure Earth stays dead. But of course she goes against that chasing after curiosity and Wall E
Oh shit, that hits dark D:
I was enamored with the _Aftermath documentary series,_ starting with "Population Zero." Earth astonishingly capable of adapting and recovering.
I remember the opening 10 minutes of Wall•E made me so sad. And it continues to, seeing this excitable, curious, caring creature being all alone, it’s just the isolation is so harsh
My husband knows that, if I'm having a bad day, bundling me up in some blankets, grabbing some popcorn, and putting on WALL-E will help me feel better. It's such a beautiful, sweet movie that is a great blend of love for self, love for others, love for Earth, and love for life.
WALLE is still my favorite Pixar film. The older I get the more every moment pushes me to the verge of tears. The loneliness and yearning WALLE feels only increases the older and lonelier I get. Thank you Pixar for creating a film that only grows more prevalent for me as time passes by. I hope one day this changes, my sadness and loneliness that is. But my love for WALLE will always remain the same and I will forever be grateful that a film like this exists that feels like it understands me.
This film is just STUNNING.
The beautiful animation, the charming characters, the gorgeous score, the phenomenal sound design.
It's perfect.
Eve used her old objective to complete her new one, Wall-e
Everyone loves The incredibles. And I do too, but Wall-e will always be my favorite Pixar movie.
Wish they talked about auto. He is a kind of villain who promotes order than freedom. It’s like people who followed the rules even though they never realized that their better options.
As a fellow crier with big emotions I appreciate that you own it! It does often feel embarrassing but HOW BEAUTIFUL IS THIS MOVIE!
“We die when we get complacent, and we come back to life when we start being interested.” This reminded me that curiosity is one of the only things that has always helped me get back on my feet after a depressive episode (thank you!!) And thanks for this episode, I need to rewatch this movie again!!
I saw this movie in a drive-in theater with my grandparents when I was really little...
It still influences how I look at the stars.
Johnathan, Alan, I do not know if you missed it, didn't have enough time, it was to off the main topic, or if you lost focus enjoying the stars, but one of the greatest innuendos of Wall-e is this. She is a young, new, powerful, and has a job changing the lives of all humanity. He is old, dirty, rusty, and works as some one who cleans and organizes filth, but none of that matters. He gives the best of himself to her and she loves him for that, HOWEVER it is not just her. He does the same for the cockroach, Moe, all the other Robots, the Captain, and the random people he runs into, and they love him for it.
That is how you love someone, that is how you make friends, that is how you lead, and that is how you become a great boss. When you do that, the people, as was written throughout this story, show up for the fight. They show up and follow your lead, because they know their life is better with you in it. It isn't about the amount of money he has, his status in society, how strong he is. He is living in a van down by sludge river, living amongst used goods, and none of that matters because he is giving them the best of himself. Not a single one of those Robots, Captain, People can be the hero who can do it all, so they use what little they can to push the goal for Wall-e, and that made all the difference. One connection who led with integrity, empathy, kindness, and gave them not everything but the best of him.
Thank you for respective commentary. My younger brother grew up on this movie and, I kid you not, Wall-E taught my brother how to whistle, despite Wall-e not having a mouth 😂
That "End" card added in at the emotional climax was amazing
I loved Wall-e, still do as an adult. Never gets old.
I'd love to see you guys do some Therapized episodes for story-rich games like Baldur's Gate 3, etc.! Especially characters like Astarion, Shadowheart, Karlach... :D Would be interesting to get your thoughts from a professional perspective.
Me too; but that would take a VERY long time cause they'd have to play all of them. However, I am willing to wait.
If they were to do games, then the Kingdom Hearts series would be my personal pick...it looks like a bunch of Disney fun on the outside but it actually gets pretty deep and dark when it comes to the characters and their psyches. I love seeing analyses on the characters in KH because there's always a lot to them and everyone interprets it differently.
I've always believed that curiosity is one of the core components of empathy. And Wall-e has both in spades. One of my favorite Lego kits I ever built with my kiddo was Wall-e.
3:06 I have watched this movie multiple times, and I somehow NEVER noticed that he has an iPod looking thing and used some sort of magnifying glass to make it look like a TV.