How to Strategically Save Energy During a Crit

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  • čas přidán 17. 06. 2021
  • Coach Jonathan Lee and Cannondale’s Amber Pierce analyze how Jonathan saves energy by letting others fill in wheels, carrying his momentum, and timing the sprint in the Cat 2/3 at the Folsom Criterium.
    To watch Jonathan’s full race: • Folsom Criterium 5/22/...
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    • Rider: Jonathan Lee
    • Race File: bit.ly/3q2gAkB
    • Weight: 149.1 lbs (67.6 kg)
    • Height: 5'10" (178 cm)
    • FTP: 330
    • Duration: 1:02:12
    • NP: 237
    • AP: 196
    • Average Speed: 26.5 mph (42.6 kph)
    • Distance: 27.53 miles (44.3 km)
    • Race Category: Cat 2/3
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Komentáře • 58

  • @andyjonathan2486
    @andyjonathan2486 Před 3 lety +10

    Nice field sprint Jonathan! 37 mph, 1270 watts is solid.

  • @yoshiakimiyamura1484
    @yoshiakimiyamura1484 Před 3 lety +7

    So at 10:30 that's when I rolled off the front and got a small gap with 1 other dude and at 10:39 you can see my bud in the red out of the saddle to join us.

  • @BreakawayB
    @BreakawayB Před rokem +2

    🙌 Excellent insight, thank you TR!

  • @richiekidd5045
    @richiekidd5045 Před 3 lety +6

    As an aspiring cyclist. You guys motivate me so much with these videos!! The races with out teams tactics are the best for us average Joes! Keep up the inspiration, thanks.

  • @aaronstubbs3368
    @aaronstubbs3368 Před 3 lety +4

    Awesome video and information as always. Cannot wait for more race analysis videos.

  • @Sandro-lj3tu
    @Sandro-lj3tu Před rokem +1

    Tomorrow is my first race ever. it’s a 4 corner and I‘m super excited

  • @mhmh4847
    @mhmh4847 Před rokem

    Nice work. Thank you for sharing

  • @bobbyiv9335
    @bobbyiv9335 Před 3 lety +5

    If only I had this advice last week! I appreciate this video a ton- did my first race ever last week and held on for a little over half of a 30min crit before getting spit out the back. Wasted a ton of energy and wasn't efficient at all. 40% of my time was spent at v02 or higher. I'll try to implement these things at the next crit!

    • @bobbyiv9335
      @bobbyiv9335 Před 2 lety +1

      Follow up. 3 more crits and haven’t gotten dropped again. Finished in top 50% in all of them with way less power expenditure.

  • @AlexPeka
    @AlexPeka Před 3 lety +2

    Been waiting so long for these to come back! 👍

  • @MELLOW1__
    @MELLOW1__ Před 3 lety +4

    Idk if you guys speak about this or if this has ever been spoken about, But i found out for me that down shifting into/out of the corners helps save energy

    • @JonathanLee7
      @JonathanLee7 Před 3 lety +1

      That’s a great point! Being in the wrong gear can bleed positions and energy. Nice one!

  • @SC-xn8tp
    @SC-xn8tp Před 3 lety +2

    Jonathan, curious on a few of those instances where you grabbed free speed by rolling past others decelerating into the turn.. do you think by doing that kind of caused further break pulling by other riders behind once you slotted in right in front of them? I struggled with the inside line on this course for that exact reason, lots of braking. Ultimately I choose the outside line which ended in my demise when I was crashed out on the bell lap of turn 1 :(. As always thank you for the race analysis videos! Can’t wait to see the race analysis for Blue Dome.

    • @JonathanLee7
      @JonathanLee7 Před 3 lety +2

      On this course you can carry a ton of speed, so as long as there is a clear and safe line, there’s no need to brake. In these scenarios when I would carry momentum, I’d just match the same speed as the riders next to me, and then I’d safely slot into place with no brakes.

  • @huntingsynth
    @huntingsynth Před 3 lety +4

    Surprisingly breaks do go at Folsom…at 25 seconds you can be out of sight for most of course

  • @deckape2423
    @deckape2423 Před 12 dny

    Is a break the same as a break away?

  • @r0mediddy
    @r0mediddy Před rokem

    What was your average cadence during this race?

  • @6kmanu
    @6kmanu Před 2 lety +1

    hi guys new to bike racing here. when im drafting behind someone is it a good idea to lean a little to one side so when the guy in front of me starts to slow down, i just slot in to one side and never have to brake and lose momentum?

    • @TrainerRoad
      @TrainerRoad  Před 2 lety

      A great strategy to stay safe and keep from having to touch the brakes. 19/10 the student has learned well. ;)

  • @massimoguglielmisa
    @massimoguglielmisa Před 3 lety +1

    Hey Jonathan, what recording device did you use?

  • @masashiborges-silva4928

    How are you recording voice-over and editing the analysis videos? I am curious to know the process as I am trying to do the same as an absolute beginner. Are you watching a full race and taking notes, then convert it to a script/bullet points? Then, based on the points, are you editing the full race to a shorter race analysis? Are you recording your voice while watching the edited video and using a screen capture? Then merge them together in a video editing software?

    • @TrainerRoad
      @TrainerRoad  Před 3 lety

      Thats the work of our amazing editing team!!! ;)

  • @alpinekiwi
    @alpinekiwi Před měsícem

    1200W and 140BPM?? Damn!

  • @nerdalert545
    @nerdalert545 Před 3 lety +1

    Kenny is the fastest Cat 2 in the country. Who was the Bear development guy in the 2015 kit?

    • @TheIcelizard82
      @TheIcelizard82 Před 3 lety

      The Bear rider was wearing their 2020/21 kit was Cameron A. Kenny is a strong all-a-rounder but definitely not the strongest rider cat 2 in the country or even in this race

  • @JoshMcGehee
    @JoshMcGehee Před 3 lety +1

    One of my biggest problems with crits is being able to take corners (even like that last one) at speed. 35 mph...geez.
    I'm a heavier rider (85kg/185lbs), so I feel like the centrifugal force is just going to kill me. And more than once I've lost wheels and gotten dropped because I get pulled to the outside too much, and maybe have to hit the brakes or get introduced to the outside curb.
    Inside lines are kinda a big "no, no" for me.

    • @JonathanLee7
      @JonathanLee7 Před 3 lety +1

      That’s an interesting point. Would be cool to look at the physics of riders of different weights and see what the difference in maximum corner speed would be in a given turn.

    • @SC-xn8tp
      @SC-xn8tp Před 3 lety +1

      @@JonathanLee7 Sounds like a Chad deep dive.. I'd really be curious on this one as I guess I fall into the heavier category at 180 (sounds odd saying that).

    • @therandomerest
      @therandomerest Před 3 lety +2

      @@JonathanLee7 I wonder about braking as Joshua mentioned too. Does cycling encounter similar problems that motorcycles encounter when braking in a corner (bike tries to "stand up" making it harder to lean in to the corner)?

    • @JoshMcGehee
      @JoshMcGehee Před 2 lety

      @@JonathanLee7 I've started dropping my knee through turns recently. I found it makes a big influence on staying on my line.

    • @kpsig
      @kpsig Před rokem

      28mm tires, drop your knee and elbow+ shoulder to the inside of the turn

  • @BJKeane-mc6bm
    @BJKeane-mc6bm Před 3 lety

    Hey Jonathan what's you max HR? You only hit 141bmp in that sprint?! That seems so low. Did everyone else get mad that you beat them while breathing through your nose? Also, shame on everyone in front of you for leaving the door open on the inside leading up to that last turn. Nice video as usual!

    • @TrainerRoad
      @TrainerRoad  Před 3 lety

      Jon so very fit guy much HR. ;)

    • @JonathanLee7
      @JonathanLee7 Před 3 lety +1

      My HRM definitely wasn’t reading right. My max is in the mid 180s and threshold is ~174

  • @immikemx
    @immikemx Před rokem

    340!?!? For someone who's been stuck at around 250 for a long time, even with trainerroad, anything over 300 sounds like pro peloton

  • @bartvanlaan2641
    @bartvanlaan2641 Před 3 lety +2

    nice BPM in that sprint...

    • @JonathanLee7
      @JonathanLee7 Před 3 lety +3

      My heart rate monitor couldn’t have been right, hehe. My threshold is around 174 and max is in the mid 180s

  • @jimcarriefanclub1537
    @jimcarriefanclub1537 Před 3 lety

    I’m thinking the one dislike is Kenny for getting rolled by Jonathan.

    • @JonathanLee7
      @JonathanLee7 Před 3 lety

      No way. Kenny is a really nice guy and a fantastic racer.

  • @mickmclennan821
    @mickmclennan821 Před 3 lety

    You rolled poor Kenny on the line !

    • @JonathanLee7
      @JonathanLee7 Před 3 lety +1

      I’m sure Kenny will roll me next time! He’s strong and super savvy

  • @TheIcelizard82
    @TheIcelizard82 Před 3 lety +11

    Hey, I was one of the riders in this race. The amount of purposeful "energy saving" gaps Jonathan let open was disrespectful and poor racing, it seemed almost every lap he would let multiple bike lengths open up when he was already most of the back in the pack. He even went to the lengths of pulling to the side after they opened to force others to chase or be dropped and was doing this even when their were breaks up the road. It was a cat 5 tactic that could have gotten him elbowed into the gutter in any higher of a category.
    Some research into the cat 2/3 NCNCA crits that happened earlier this season would also have let him see that all of them have been won from a break away with the Team Cali rider driving it (The rider who bridged up to the winning break and won this race). So even though this was not a break away course, this was still a field that preferred breakaways which can make a bigger difference.

    • @WHAT_1400
      @WHAT_1400 Před 3 lety +9

      "disrepectful" is when you think you have any justifiable reason to elbow people into the gutters and potentially cause a serious crash in an amateur bike race. if you don't like the wheel then follow another one

    • @TheIcelizard82
      @TheIcelizard82 Před 3 lety +2

      @@WHAT_1400 I'm not saying crashed out, I'm saying removed from mid pack and forced to sit in the back. I'm also not saying I'd do it, since I obviously didn't this race but it's behavior that's going to cause some people to recoil and definitely not something that should be taught to beginner riders

    • @JonathanLee7
      @JonathanLee7 Před 3 lety +5

      There is nothing wrong with allowing gaps to open in a field, and pressuring riders to do otherwise is personally incentivized gate keeping. If you don’t like a rider opening up gaps, don’t ride behind that rider.

    • @TheIcelizard82
      @TheIcelizard82 Před 3 lety +2

      @@JonathanLee7 So I should spend my race making sure that I am never behind you in the pack and not being able to sit in the back resting up just because you don't know how to race?

    • @JonathanLee7
      @JonathanLee7 Před 3 lety +7

      @@TheIcelizard82 I’m not sure why you feel it necessary to attack the person and not the idea. And yep, if I suck, go around me. :)