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  • @TheArmchairHistorian
    @TheArmchairHistorian  Před 4 měsíci +100

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    • @CheeseNumbs27
      @CheeseNumbs27 Před 4 měsíci

      Hi

    • @Knockee
      @Knockee Před 4 měsíci

      Ok

    • @yaoiswow
      @yaoiswow Před 4 měsíci

      Ok

    • @mmelon_JEbel
      @mmelon_JEbel Před 4 měsíci

      Check Community posts​@@titanspeakermandc2294

    • @JM-qb2kd
      @JM-qb2kd Před 4 měsíci +2

      It would be a glories world if we could stop calling national socialism fascist. They were certainly different ideologies, only really being similar through socialist principles

  • @rafaelgustavo7786
    @rafaelgustavo7786 Před 4 měsíci +1289

    Italy is the ultimate proof that its soldiers can be brave, but if:
    - their logistics are bad.
    - your technology lags behind your enemies.
    - your leaders do not know how to recognize your limitations in the war effort:
    your nation will be an eternal joke in military historiography.

    • @randomitalian909
      @randomitalian909 Před 4 měsíci +77

      not to forget the industrial capability, if you look at graphs of ww2 countries industry compared its actually not even close for Italy

    • @abaddonthearmless319
      @abaddonthearmless319 Před 4 měsíci +60

      The tech wasnt even that bad. The problem was that the good stuff wasnt being produced and couldnt make any significant impact.

    • @beans00001
      @beans00001 Před 4 měsíci +14

      early war france is also a good example

    • @mrcat5508
      @mrcat5508 Před 4 měsíci

      @@beans00001no it’s not?

    • @mrcat5508
      @mrcat5508 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@beans00001they just got surprised, and they didn’t use their tanks correctly.

  • @chartreux1532
    @chartreux1532 Před 4 měsíci +318

    As a German Historian from Munich focusing mainly on Contemporary History especially here in Central Europe including Germany, France, Italy, Austria, Hungary etc.
    For those into Italy in WW2, i just want to share an interesting Topic from the Italian Axis Forces in WW2 that deserves more Attention and is overlooked, most likely because "Italy had bad Military" is huge Trope i assume.
    Read up on "Decima Flottiglia MAS" - basically Italian Axis Navy Seals on a Flotilla during WW2 - who have done some of the craziest but still succesful Special Ops during WW2.
    I only came across recently myself via German Archives and the Fact that apparently those Italian Axis Navy Seals were asked by the Germans to train their Navy Special Forces.
    So i went "Italians teaching Germans?! In WW2?!" Kinda shows you how powerful bad Stereotypes are, especially regarding the different Military & Branches in WW2.
    Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps

    • @VinnyUnion
      @VinnyUnion Před 4 měsíci +2

      Lange Rede kurzer Sinn.

    • @alexzero3736
      @alexzero3736 Před 4 měsíci +3

      I know Italian fleet was big... But it ultimately failed in Battles around Malta and around Tarrent (Calabria).

    • @VinnyUnion
      @VinnyUnion Před 4 měsíci +10

      @@alexzero3736 that's not true, it destroyed the English fleet unanimously and viciously. It was the king of the Mediterranean seas. Rising with the SPQR flag!

    • @foxtrotcharlie1619
      @foxtrotcharlie1619 Před 4 měsíci +3

      The captured elements taken prisoners by the Allies also collaborated with allied special forces towards the second half of the war. They operated in a unit named “Mariassalto”.

    • @Enrico_374
      @Enrico_374 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thanks for saying the real facts.. i also see everytime people who say that italy betrayed germany but these people don't know that there were 2 italy in 1943.. Traitor Italy was the kingdom of Italy led by the cowardly king Victor Emmanuel 3 who as soon as he declared war on Germany ran away out of fear.
      Instead no one knows the loyal italy ruled by Mussolini.. the RSI( Repubblica Sociale Italiana) who was loyal to germany till the end and also no one knows those 2 italy were in a bloodly civil war during 1943-1945...
      The winners write history..

  • @jeffreybezong4121
    @jeffreybezong4121 Před 4 měsíci +1006

    Prayers for any Italian guy who had to crew the CV/L3
    Edit: shall all those who fought the great comment war down below rest in peace

    • @FlagAnthem
      @FlagAnthem Před 4 měsíci +75

      it was nicknamed "the coffin" not by chance...

    • @theducknamednewepicla9507
      @theducknamednewepicla9507 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Mine aswell 😢

    • @da_Sizzle
      @da_Sizzle Před 4 měsíci +15

      Don't pray for nazis.

    • @Fui921
      @Fui921 Před 4 měsíci +78

      ​@@da_Sizzle They werent nazis, they were fascists or werent even fascists

    • @andylopez6145
      @andylopez6145 Před 4 měsíci +6

      L3 is epic

  • @patrickhaeusler
    @patrickhaeusler Před 4 měsíci +297

    I still think it might be interesting to discuss WWII from the pretty obscure Latin American perspective. Other interesting perspectives on historical events might also be "Crusades from the Muslim perspective", "WWI from the Ottoman perspective" or "Cold War from the Soviet perspective".

    • @Catolicoporsiempre1
      @Catolicoporsiempre1 Před 4 měsíci +14

      The Latin American perspective is a great idea! Lets not forget that actually two nations from Latin América, Brasil and México, sent troops to battle; México sent an air squad to fight in the pacific along US Army, and Brasil sent three infantry divitions to fight along the allies in the landing in Italy. On the other hand Mexico provide an important support in matter of economy, comerce, work force to the United States... And also we have Argentina and the controversy about the relationship with Germany.

    • @ryanwagner656
      @ryanwagner656 Před 4 měsíci

      moon landing from the martians perspective ​@@Repent-and-believe-in-Jesus1

    • @createrz8433
      @createrz8433 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I support this! With how little Latin America is talked about in the context of ww2 I really want to know what they did during those times and why as well as what happened to the governments of those countries once the war was over.

    • @doctorstrange5566
      @doctorstrange5566 Před 4 měsíci +1

      The video would last roughly 15 minutes

    • @kidsrock91
      @kidsrock91 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Ww1 from the ottoman perspective would be cool, like the disastrous Gallipoli campaign or the Arab Revolt

  • @linzhizhou2332
    @linzhizhou2332 Před 4 měsíci +195

    Italy in real life: 🥲🥲🥲
    Italy In hoi 4 Getting Dalmatia, Yugoslavia for free, defeating france with paratroopers and doing sealion + restoring roman empire in less than a year without any difficulty: 🗿🗿🗿

    • @alexzero3736
      @alexzero3736 Před 4 měsíci +31

      In HOI 4 you can do anything with paratroopers😂 . AI is just too stupid to resist.
      Also France in HOI 4 is greatly underpowered, its starting industry is worse than Italian one.

    • @bulbulder2zvezdara
      @bulbulder2zvezdara Před 4 měsíci +4

      So true tho 💀💀💀

    • @tempejkl
      @tempejkl Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@alexzero3736they have to do that or else AI Germany will lose

    • @alexzero3736
      @alexzero3736 Před 4 měsíci +11

      @@tempejkl improve AI? No... Impossible...

    • @tempejkl
      @tempejkl Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@alexzero3736 Well, if they did that, new players would lose as well…

  • @andreavarp1357
    @andreavarp1357 Před 4 měsíci +43

    A great book to read about the italian expeditionary force in Russia is "The sergeant in the snow" it talks about the experience of an Italian mountaneer during the retreat in the Don river encirclement.

  • @eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879
    @eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879 Před 4 měsíci +114

    Fun fact Marinos Mitralexis during the invasion of Greece he managed to shoot down two Italian planes we he run out of ammunition, skillfully crashing into them, and then safely landing his own aircraft. Afterward, he reportedly arrested the Italian pilots using his service pistol. Mitralexis's bravery and resourcefulness became a symbol of Greek resistance during the war.

    • @Rodrick-rx4hd
      @Rodrick-rx4hd Před 2 měsíci +1

      SOUNDS REAL

    • @axelscharf2415
      @axelscharf2415 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Sure . That makes totally sense .

    • @eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879
      @eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@Rodrick-rx4hd It is real you can verify this by your self do some research this isn't some war time propaganda or a legend

    • @eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879
      @eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@axelscharf2415 Do you research Greeks had limited aircrafts and ammunition and they used it carefully. there is a docent of similar incidents during the battle of Greece

    • @axelscharf2415
      @axelscharf2415 Před 2 měsíci

      @eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879 just because somebody in greece told a story that doesn't make it thru . The hole story is just unbelievable. The guy rammed two Italian planes , those two planes crashed somewhere. But the Greek pilot landed safely and arrested the Italian Pilots with his revolver . How did he get immediately to the crash sides . What kinda planes the Italians fly ? I'm sorry but most war stories like this just stink like nationalism . Look at us we are much better warriors etc . No offense my greek brother .

  • @thomasc.3832
    @thomasc.3832 Před 4 měsíci +29

    Good video but noticed a mistake, Mussolini's puppet state was the "Italian Social Republic" not the "Italian Socialist Republic", they are very different things

    • @natem1579
      @natem1579 Před měsícem +1

      The name is incorrect in the video, yes, but the Nazis had already proven to have a unique definition of the word "Socialist", to say the least; so the difference would be nonexistent in this situation.

    • @Paciat
      @Paciat Před 22 dny +3

      @@natem1579 Everyone has the same definition of the word "Socialist". Its a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by a "workers government".(there is not a single word about equality or women rights there) Hitlers government fits the definition. Saying national socialists are not socialists is ignoring the definition of socialism and creating your own.

    • @yitzhaktolentino4214
      @yitzhaktolentino4214 Před 12 dny

      @@Paciat
      Hitler is not and was not a “socialist” he abused the term to obtain a wider appeal. Hitler is a Nazi, nothing more and nothing less. I’d recommend watching Three Arrows or a video that delves into Nazi politics and beliefs.

    • @Krishna-pt3yu
      @Krishna-pt3yu Před 5 dny +1

      ​@@Paciat I like your clearity in assessment. Thank you

    • @bed3353
      @bed3353 Před dnem

      @@Paciat National socialist economics did not distribute the means of production to the workers, but rather took advantage of the previous economic system. Yes, they engaged in welfare, but workers had no representation, unions nationalized and leaders state appointed, and the existing structures of most industries remained unchanged. Those that were appropriated by the government were for the war effort, but much of the leadership remained in place.

  • @user-kw7jl5jt6n
    @user-kw7jl5jt6n Před 4 měsíci +82

    This is the guide to how to do a full historical Italy in hoi4

    • @hanslada69
      @hanslada69 Před 4 měsíci

      XD

    • @TheSkyGuy77
      @TheSkyGuy77 Před měsícem +1

      Aka, the clown car of western Europe 😂

    • @tomw3886
      @tomw3886 Před 5 dny

      Was doing a Germany Ironman game and my dumbass thought initiating an afrika campaign would be a good idea. Lost nearly 1.5 space marine armies. Due to Italy not garrisoning the ports behind the rapid pushes we were making. I managed to pull out half an army back to Sicily but it was an utter failure. Italy like real life also got beat up my Greece so I helped them took Crete thought the continent was secured so I go to fight the USSR. And we push the Russians to Moscow then the invasion of early DDay happens forcing myself to divert forces both to the Gustav line and both the west wall and the Rhine river doing minimal fighting in France. I don't know if it's gonna be possible to comeback at this point. I have only 1.6mil men in the field. 0 reserve manpower and the game won't let me go past extensive conscription

  • @jeffe9842
    @jeffe9842 Před 4 měsíci +22

    I was glued to this video. It was so well done and so interesting. Incidentally, my dad was part of Patton's Seventh Army and was in the third wave in the invasion of Sicily on July 10, 1943.

  • @theravingtimes9582
    @theravingtimes9582 Před 4 měsíci +20

    Noticed at 1:01:57 during the Polish's artillery attack, a certain Iranian bear is visible with the human soldiers

    • @lucamckenn5932
      @lucamckenn5932 Před měsícem +2

      His name was wojtek the bear. A cub that a platoon found an befriended.

    • @thepoleontheroad
      @thepoleontheroad Před 13 dny +1

      So awesome of AH to do a detailed research like that.

  • @GoobermannBillingtonhead
    @GoobermannBillingtonhead Před 4 měsíci +115

    I absolutely love the meme references and comedy griffin puts in these vids. its such a shame YouYube hates on such golden content like this, but absolutely even allows elsagate to exist on the platform. i wish you only the best, Griffin.

    • @ScootsMcPoot
      @ScootsMcPoot Před 2 měsíci

      Why does youtube hate this? And how? This channel has 2.3 million subs and an average of 400k views on videos. How is it hating? It's not as popular sure, it's ww2 videos. It's niche

  • @PakBallandSami
    @PakBallandSami Před 4 měsíci +100

    Some People May find this Interesting: The Eighth Army's forces advanced north-northeast toward Venice and Trieste on the same day that the Italian Partisans' Committee of Liberation declared a general uprising and crossed the Po on the right flank. Divisions of the US Fifth Army advanced northward toward Austria and northwest toward Milan.
    The German-Italian Army of Liguria was caught off guard by the Brazilian division's quick advance towards Turin, which led to its collapse.

    • @usuariogenerico2
      @usuariogenerico2 Před 4 měsíci

      🇧🇷🇧🇷 Brazil mentioned 🇧🇷🇧🇷
      Tivemos que ir pra Itália ajudar a resolver essa baguncinha por causa de uns otários de camisas pretas e camisas marrons

    • @tigerland4328
      @tigerland4328 Před 4 měsíci

      Was the Brazilian Division part of the British eighth army or the US fifth Army ?

  • @maroccomo
    @maroccomo Před 4 měsíci +18

    My grandmother was living in Northern Italy during WW2 and tells the story of her older brothers, cousins, and uncles that would hide in the mountains and shoot down at Natzi soldiers after school.

  • @Dornana
    @Dornana Před 4 měsíci +20

    Reminder that the BEF(Brazilian Expeditionary Force) fought extremely well at mount casino in montanous snow terrain depiste brazilians not being used to low temperatures in general. We also had a reputation of being generous and sharing most of our food with italian civilians. And, we also captured an entire german divison at the end of the campaign!

    • @tetraxis3011
      @tetraxis3011 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Brazil was the only Latin American country to provide direct ground troops.
      Mexicos constitution forbids deployment of combat units outside Mexican territory, so we had to conform to send a lot of volunteers to the US and Having the Mexican expeditionary Airforce operate under the greater US command structure.

    • @user-rf6gx8mb4h
      @user-rf6gx8mb4h Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@tetraxis3011 Based Mexicans and Brazilians.

    • @tetraxis3011
      @tetraxis3011 Před 2 měsíci

      @@user-rf6gx8mb4h From Mexico, Thanks man.

  • @RickyJC
    @RickyJC Před 17 dny +1

    41:10 great little touch with Mussolini losing in chess with the fool’s mate: a 2-move checkmate that only someone who doesn’t know how to play chess end up in that position.

  • @Hadfield15
    @Hadfield15 Před 4 měsíci +34

    Think we might see WWII from the Canadian perspective sometime? I know we had D-Day from the Canadian POV, but I’d like to see what the rest of the war was like from their perspective

  • @thelitterbug7624
    @thelitterbug7624 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Hahaha the use of the Lion King reference (A Disney cartoon) with the the ‘you know who’ is hilarious on so many layers

  • @giangargo669
    @giangargo669 Před 4 měsíci +1

    thank you for the video, loved all the effort on trying to use some italian words to further immerse the viewer

  • @arts6821
    @arts6821 Před 4 měsíci +16

    Almost 200k views as of now and only 8k likes…. You guys deserve so much more credit than given, thank you for the passion you and your team put into these videos!

  • @alexacosta4751
    @alexacosta4751 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Love these videos in the eyes of other countries. Hope you do it for every major country in WW2 🙌

  • @breeve12
    @breeve12 Před 3 měsíci

    That was an amazing experience! Your contest is some of the best available.

  • @sunlightpictures8367
    @sunlightpictures8367 Před 3 měsíci

    Great episode! Your team put in a lot of work on this one.

  • @emanueleabrami8355
    @emanueleabrami8355 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Very small detail: at minute 14 it’s cassa DA morto, non DI morto. So it is basically coffin. I love how you use Italian in the video THANK YOU very much!

  • @antlionworkerfan2007
    @antlionworkerfan2007 Před 4 měsíci

    Was just binging your videos and just so happened that you released a new video today, what luck!

  • @Bunjamin27
    @Bunjamin27 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Love the long format youtube vids you all do.

  • @usuariogenerico2
    @usuariogenerico2 Před 4 měsíci +62

    Thank you SO MUCH FOR THIS
    I've been waiting for this for so long!!!!
    There aren't many videos covering Italy in WW2 although it was a major player

    • @FlagAnthem
      @FlagAnthem Před 4 měsíci

      can't even understand Italian national identity

    • @leosalemii
      @leosalemii Před 4 měsíci

      @@FlagAnthem you can't because it's feeble and not everyone has it lol

    • @alessandroiorio6248
      @alessandroiorio6248 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Peccato sia pieno di errori e la solita narrativa fuorviante tipica di questo e di altri canali. Qualche esempio a caso dai primi minuti: la Germania che manda armi all'Italia invece che all'Etiopia, la guerra d'Etiopia che sembra un'epopea di anni risolta solo col gas (invece durò 7 mesi e il gas fu poco e non risolutivo) , e i numeri lievitati di produzione di aerei/carri dell'Italia comparati all'Asse (magari avessimo prodotto il 25% del totale, sai che rasponi si sarebbero fatti gli alti comandi).
      Sarebbe bello veder meno gente leccare il c*lo a questi canali che fanno ricerca con sciatteria.

    • @leosalemii
      @leosalemii Před 4 měsíci

      @@alessandroiorio6248 non sono perfetti, ma se si viene con l'idea che siano divinità scese in terra... ovviamente loro hanno la colpa per la disinformazione

    • @alessandroiorio6248
      @alessandroiorio6248 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@leosalemii Lungi da me pensare agli youtuber come divinità. La perfezione non esiste ma la ricerca della perfezione dovrebbe essere al primo posto nel creare video educativi se sei un canale con 2 milioni e rotti di iscritti i cui video hanno molto spesso milioni di visualizzazioni; hai il dovere morale verso chi ti ascolta e la comunità di ridurre la disinformazione, perché si sa benissimo come a volte certi miti e falsità diventino storia

  • @annoyedbrox4851
    @annoyedbrox4851 Před 4 měsíci +5

    the best history videos, as always, greatly appreciated

  • @MRMixedup
    @MRMixedup Před 4 měsíci +14

    Just for a bit more info, at the peak of the b0mb!ngs, Malta was the most bombed place on earth despite being smaller then NYC, Il Duce overestimated Malta's defensive capabilities which was one of the reasons a land invasion never took place. The local population went through alot but thanks to our determination and Italy's faliure to stop operation pedestal (which brought crucial supplies to Malta) the islands never surrendered.
    Malta also played a crucial role in operation Husky as many British, American and allied troops stopped in Malta in preparation of the invasion.
    Thank you Armchair historian for featuring Malta although not too deeply (understandable in the greater context), i feel we have a very underrated history.

  • @ZucchiniAss
    @ZucchiniAss Před 4 měsíci +3

    Another incredible video, keep up the amazing work!

  • @Simeon1510
    @Simeon1510 Před 4 měsíci +9

    1:01:57 Wojtek the bear ❤️

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 Před 4 měsíci +6

    It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage video about Mossolini ambitious for larger Italian empire

  • @user-gh7st3co7s
    @user-gh7st3co7s Před 4 měsíci +2

    gotta like all ur vids btw good luck in your new journey!

  • @cesarsantiago._.4879
    @cesarsantiago._.4879 Před 4 měsíci

    I wasn't waiting this video, but I needed it so much

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um Před 4 měsíci +9

    "War is to man what maternity is to a woman. From philosophical and doctrinal viewpoint, I do not believe in perpetual peace." -- Benito Mussolini

  • @vincentwaldner8061
    @vincentwaldner8061 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Great content once again, a pretty good summary I think!

  • @crabbing-ws6hf
    @crabbing-ws6hf Před 4 měsíci +1

    YEEEEESSSS!
    Sorry, I get way too excited whenever you upload a long ww2 video, especially the perspective serie lol.

  • @SeanHH1986
    @SeanHH1986 Před 4 měsíci

    random connection: growing up on long island in ny, the ruins of king zog's estate from when he was in exile were about 30-45 mins away

  • @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control
    @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control Před 4 měsíci +5

    Just throwing out a 'thanks for your hard work Griff'. And I hope YT monetization gets friendlier in the future.

  • @thecrazydestructoniz
    @thecrazydestructoniz Před 4 měsíci

    Really good documentary,should’ve mentioned the axis counterattack at gela though

  • @troidva
    @troidva Před 4 měsíci +5

    One criminally under-reported aspect of the Italian war effort was the courage and self-sacrifice of the merchant marine. Despite losing 25% of its entire merchant fleet at the outset of the war (interned or confiscated because Mussolini neglected to call home the ships before the start of of the war), Italy's brave civilian sailors managed to keep the Axis forces in North Africa at least marginally supplied up through March 1943 despite horrendous losses. At that point, Italy had only 26 large merchant ships left, including only three oil tankers

  • @andrewwilson6726
    @andrewwilson6726 Před 4 měsíci +14

    We need a ww1 from the Italian perspective video.

    • @scotto2291
      @scotto2291 Před 4 měsíci +1

      There already is one

    • @FlagAnthem
      @FlagAnthem Před 4 měsíci +1

      watch "Uomini Contro"

    • @andrewwilson6726
      @andrewwilson6726 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@scotto2291 no. There isn't.

    • @andrewwilson6726
      @andrewwilson6726 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@FlagAnthem alright!

    • @scotto2291
      @scotto2291 Před 4 měsíci

      @@andrewwilson6726 czcams.com/video/MSo9iBYnaEI/video.htmlsi=uMUq8X7lhN0JLcJN It's not explicitly titled WW1 from Italy's perspective but that's what it is.

  • @martinbast5250
    @martinbast5250 Před 4 měsíci

    BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO SINCE DAY 1

  • @beigegaming9905
    @beigegaming9905 Před 4 měsíci

    Hey Griffin! Been watching ya for years! You should do a video over cover-ups the American government such as the USS Liberty Incident! Others wrapped in there with it.

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Thank you for another excellent long form documentary. I love learning more about history through these. For the last several years, this channel and others have taught me a ton.
    God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)

  • @quentinjohnson-ronald1266
    @quentinjohnson-ronald1266 Před 4 měsíci +4

    This video was great, can you make one from New Zealand's/Australia's perspective?

  • @nicholasmontgomery8594
    @nicholasmontgomery8594 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I'm surprised there wasn't any mention of the mafia's involvement. Italian historians cite that Italy never really had full logistical control over Sicily due to all the local Dons in the region requiring officers and politicians to "wet their beaks"
    There was also the general resentment of authority of Italy in general. It was said that Mussolini ordered that no wall in Sicily could be higher than the waist given how frequent men with luparas (short barreled hunting shotguns) would hide behind them and blast Italian troops.

  • @Icantchooseaname136
    @Icantchooseaname136 Před 4 měsíci +126

    If I had a penny for every time Italy succeeded to reform the Roman Empire after it’s collapse. I’ll be broke

    • @somehistorynerd
      @somehistorynerd Před 4 měsíci +5

      They only tried… twice? Italy has only existed since the 1860’s.

    • @yoyonono51497
      @yoyonono51497 Před 4 měsíci +23

      @@somehistorynerdI think he’s talking about all the previous states before Italy like the Papal States for example

    • @jimc.goodfellas226
      @jimc.goodfellas226 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yeah you be broke too

    • @greatgrungustwo904
      @greatgrungustwo904 Před 4 měsíci +3

      If they succeeded you would still be broke, but less broke

    • @PremiumToad
      @PremiumToad Před 4 měsíci +2

      your already broke tho

  • @ChristineCAlb1
    @ChristineCAlb1 Před 3 měsíci

    Italy had a monarchy??? I always learn something new from your videos. :) Really hope CZcams doesn’t cancel you.

  • @BigDonch
    @BigDonch Před 4 měsíci +2

    Oh yaaa one of the best history channels on here

  • @GenralWAV
    @GenralWAV Před 2 měsíci

    The thought of mussolini and churchill play battleship just cracks me up 😂

  • @maxq-
    @maxq- Před 4 měsíci +3

    Excellent work.

  • @kedafu
    @kedafu Před 4 měsíci

    Outstanding as usual. Thumbs up

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I love the small Hoi4 references in these videos

  • @loganlove9986
    @loganlove9986 Před 14 dny

    @TheArmchairHistorian 56:46 to 57:40
    Could you tell me what the name of this soundtrack is?? Or if there is anywhere I can listen to this?? Cause it’s just . . . So beautiful to listen to, I just want to loop it so much 😅😌
    Much appreciated, and great content. Have a good day!!

  • @SimoNemo7
    @SimoNemo7 Před 4 měsíci +10

    This vid is super well made. As an Italian myself it’s quite fascinating to see some similarities from the past still present today. Saddens me though each time I come visit my family here how the situation worsens in Italy. No work, crummy economy and not enough repopulation. I’d live here if it wasn’t so hard to make a living.

  • @liamjames5405
    @liamjames5405 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Eisenhower casually playing hoi4 scares me

  • @auraguard0212
    @auraguard0212 Před měsícem +1

    Italy was like a game released early.

  • @thebadblokke
    @thebadblokke Před 4 měsíci

    This is extremely well made.

  • @tyleracey3141
    @tyleracey3141 Před 2 měsíci

    101:57. Okay I know my history but to my knowledge, I believe that’s a bear behind a soldier. That must be Wojtek from the Polish 22nd Artillery Supply Company. He carried crates of ammunition meant for four soldiers at the Battle of Monte Cassino.
    If I’m correct, that’s a very cool hidden detail

  • @flashgordon6670
    @flashgordon6670 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Brilliant video thank you Sir Griffin! Btw, that ain’t a real pipe.

  • @djartyom924
    @djartyom924 Před 4 měsíci

    5:21 "do u feel like a hero yet?" - John Conrad

  • @redmilitia117
    @redmilitia117 Před 4 měsíci

    I didn't expect this video

  • @WrenPhoenix
    @WrenPhoenix Před 4 měsíci

    The Hearts of Iron IV UI part made me chuckle.

  • @sergiopiparo4084
    @sergiopiparo4084 Před 4 měsíci +12

    My grandfather served in the Italian army forces he started in East Africa and then transferred to Libya in 1943 he was captured by the British after the fall of fascism he returned home

    • @Enrico_374
      @Enrico_374 Před 4 měsíci +9

      my great uncle was in the Italian army during World War II.
      he participated in the Barbarossa operation and was sent to support the German allies together with the Romanian and Finnish soldiers during the invasion of the Soviet Union. He miraculously managed to survive and said that he had to return to his home in Sicily mainly on foot as the vehicles were either destroyed or out of gas.
      he returned to Sicily and eventually died in 1943 during the invasion of Sicily.. he died defending his homeland from the American enemy...

    • @sergiopiparo4084
      @sergiopiparo4084 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Enrico_374 my grandfather is also from Sicily he was born in Modica what part of Sicily is your uncle from?

    • @Enrico_374
      @Enrico_374 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@sergiopiparo4084 He was from Partinico( province of Palermo)

    • @tigerland4328
      @tigerland4328 Před 4 měsíci +1

      My grandfather fought in north Africa,Italy and in north west Europe. He was a British paratrooper.

    • @ChrisSmith74627
      @ChrisSmith74627 Před 4 měsíci +1

      My grandmother was obviously not fighting but she was a child living in Calabria. All she remembers is seeing Allied planes flying over her paese

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Před 4 měsíci

    Nicely done long video

  • @thomaszen3622
    @thomaszen3622 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Huh? I thought you left CZcams? I’m happy you uploaded, but I’m a bit confused😅

  • @Destroyer120296
    @Destroyer120296 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for thr video
    I love the art and info. It is nice to get a more in deptg view why italy did what it dis

  • @dansmith4077
    @dansmith4077 Před 4 měsíci

    Excellent video thanks

  • @beaniemiller6861
    @beaniemiller6861 Před 4 měsíci

    My grandfather was part of the U.S forces in Operation Husky.
    Rest in peace Ben

  • @Mynameshere1310
    @Mynameshere1310 Před 4 měsíci

    At 1:00:00 literally company of heroes 3 but on hardest setting, jesus its attacks after attacks after attacks!

  • @davidschaftenaar6530
    @davidschaftenaar6530 Před 4 měsíci

    30:00 ... Wait a minute... What's _he_ doing at the Casablanca Conference?? 😂

  • @kliwenadshorts3870
    @kliwenadshorts3870 Před 4 měsíci

    i love the whole hoi4 and discord stuff lmao.

  • @mrlodwick
    @mrlodwick Před 4 měsíci +1

    You rock bro !

  • @ryleeculla5570
    @ryleeculla5570 Před 4 měsíci +8

    The Italians weren’t expecting to go on the offensive especially out of Europe and anyways they were poorly equipped for such a aggressive goal that Mussolini pictured during ww1 they were on the defensive and many people thought the same thing will happen again and guess what they failed to realize that this wasn’t a war of attrition and bleeding your enemy dry oh no it was lightning warfare although I’m guessing I might be wrong cause I know someone going to be pointing something out

    • @danielelanza2441
      @danielelanza2441 Před 4 měsíci +4

      To clarify Italy was almost always in the offensive (13 major offensive battles against 3 Austro-Hungarian/German ones) in WWI. For I agree woth you yes, Italian military was still convinced on a trench warfare ww2 (similarly as Poland, France and Great Britain too in 1939) but failed to evolve its strategy due of what we have seen in this video

  • @srb98af89
    @srb98af89 Před 3 měsíci

    That "Hearts of Iron" style of story telling is brilliant ;d

  • @hendriktonisson2915
    @hendriktonisson2915 Před 4 měsíci +13

    I wonder how WW2 would've been different if Italy stayed neutral like Spain? With a neutral Italy would the Western allies have been able to launch a massive offensive from the Balkans into Eastern Europe and not let the Soviets to occupy Eastern European countries?

    • @DMS-pq8
      @DMS-pq8 Před 4 měsíci +10

      It was in North Africa that the allies especially the U.S. learned to fight a modern war and what commanders were capable of fighting that kind of war, Without that experience any invasion of Europe probably is a disaster

    • @alexzero3736
      @alexzero3736 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Even if Italy stays neutral, Mussolini would do his thing in the Balkans like invading Albania, putting pressure on Yugoslavia and Greece... The guy was ambitious.

    • @Ibra2him
      @Ibra2him Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@alexzero3736in that case, I wonder if Italy would be invaded by the Germans at some point for getting in the way of their interests

    • @hendriktonisson2915
      @hendriktonisson2915 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@DMS-pq8 Considering the effects the Stalin's purges had on the Red Army I think the Western allies would've been as successful if not more successful than the Soviets.

    • @hendriktonisson2915
      @hendriktonisson2915 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@alexzero3736 In real history Mussolini got away with invading Albania without getting into a war with the major powers but if he really wanted to avoid conflict with Britain and it's allies I doubt he would risk invading Yugoslavia or Greece given how the Western allies reacted to the German invasion of Poland. The most Mussolini probably would've done is to send volunteer army to fight against the Soviet Union similarly to what Franco's Spain did.

  • @samyong2343
    @samyong2343 Před 4 měsíci

    Please do Battle of Midway documentary

  • @monsterx1121
    @monsterx1121 Před 4 měsíci

    im happy for you brother
    i thought in second you will give up but you did not do it you are hero and legend
    you have my respect from iraq brother

  • @outofturn331
    @outofturn331 Před 4 měsíci

    5:30 "pacify" 😢😂, 9:30 as a hyena i was hugely offended

  • @sethmeyer2443
    @sethmeyer2443 Před měsícem

    My grandfather fought at Monte Cassino while my grandmom was in NY giving birth to my dad. 80 years ago this month.

  • @O_Mostr
    @O_Mostr Před 4 měsíci +31

    Italy was not the "soft underbelly of Europe" as Churchill described it as. Infact, the Italian Social Republic with help from the Germans lasted up until the fall of Germany, retaining land from Bologna and up.

    • @FlagAnthem
      @FlagAnthem Před 4 měsíci +3

      then why Italy surrendered in 43?

    • @samuelstephen8147
      @samuelstephen8147 Před 4 měsíci +20

      Italy's war wasn’t over with the surrender. After that Italy was thrown into a civil war with the Royal government against the German-backed Italian Social Republic under Mussolini and that lasted until 1945.@@FlagAnthem

    • @leosalemii
      @leosalemii Před 4 měsíci +11

      Because the king thought it best to just lay down arms in 1943 - while mussolini fled north and got arrested. ​the fascists went on fighting vs the allies and they kept being a thorn in their side until war's end @FlagAnthem

    • @FlagAnthem
      @FlagAnthem Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@leosalemiiand WHAT make him think so?

    • @FlagAnthem
      @FlagAnthem Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@samuelstephen8147 I know.
      Just focus more on the "surrendered" part

  • @CrisisMoon7
    @CrisisMoon7 Před 4 měsíci

    Sounds like my conversations with my friend except the Mein Kampf part

  • @RubberToeYT
    @RubberToeYT Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great documentary

  • @geordiedog1749
    @geordiedog1749 Před 4 měsíci

    Small point - Matapan was enabled by Applecores and not Stringbags .

  • @josephpercente8377
    @josephpercente8377 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The majority of the Italian merchant fleet was overseas. It could have been recalled in time to be of use, but it wasn't. It was interred or confiscated.

  • @anthoneyschwoch9104
    @anthoneyschwoch9104 Před 4 měsíci

    Forest Griffin, you just might have the coolest name of any human being I've ever heard of. ✌️

  • @brittking3990
    @brittking3990 Před 4 měsíci

    Getting close to 100 years after the war and I still get a good chuckle at Italys performance in WW2…especially Mussolini!! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @juanjosepassotoncel1191
    @juanjosepassotoncel1191 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Buen video tambien quiero ver la ww2 from the britsh perspective

  • @darylcheshire1618
    @darylcheshire1618 Před 2 měsíci

    With the Itallians surrendering in droves, there was a famous Bluey and Curley cartoon where Bluey and Curley were guarding rows and rows of Italian prisoners as far as the eye can see and the caption was something like this: “Luigi, if you don’t stop dragging my rifle in the sand, I won’t let you carry it”.
    My father knew someone who was taking a leak when two Italian soldiers showed up and his rifle was metres away, but the Italians were surrendering.

  • @ShotKalTank
    @ShotKalTank Před 4 měsíci

    1:01:32 oh that's where crosses grow, no soldier sleeps, and hell's 6 feet deep

  • @rsookchand919
    @rsookchand919 Před 4 měsíci

    To any CZcams executive in the comments: we need more channels like this

  • @InsaneTitanCameraman
    @InsaneTitanCameraman Před 4 měsíci

    Armcher historian is bakk!!1!1!!🔥🔥🔥

  • @DN_123
    @DN_123 Před 3 měsíci

    Having a detail insight on how Italy was incompetent, I may now have a chance to succeed in the tutorial on hoi4!

  • @Unfassbarer
    @Unfassbarer Před 4 měsíci +3

    Danke!

  • @MrThePsychologist
    @MrThePsychologist Před 4 měsíci +1

    i see there are many historic inaccuracies

  • @gunsandcommissions
    @gunsandcommissions Před 4 měsíci

    19:51: "only" bread and olives? I fail to see the problem.....

  • @bradley_george_official
    @bradley_george_official Před 4 měsíci

    Can you do ww1 from all povs please

  • @LuKaZz420
    @LuKaZz420 Před 2 měsíci

    Damn my great great grandpa was in Operation Barbarossa, spent from 1941 to 1946, one year after the war had ended, as a P.O.W. In Siberia. My great great uncle was taken prisoner at El Alamein and my grandma’s house was bombed by the R.A.F. However she grew up to be a huge Britain fan, when I graduated uni in London, I brought my grandma to see Buckingham Palace, she was “These should have been our friends”. She even crossed herself (like in Church) in front of the Queen Guards and said in Italian “I forgive you for the house”. She passed last year. Maybe one day humans will stop war…but seeing the current events, not likely