F1 vs IndyCar @ CoTA
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- čas přidán 12. 02. 2019
- Hamilton's 2018 pole lap on the left, IndyCar preseason testing lap on the right.
Update: In yesterday's IndyCar qualifying Felix Rosenqvist posted a lap time of 1:45:454. That's more than 5 seconds faster than the IndyCar lap shown in this video. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
In yesterday's IndyCar qualifying Felix Rosenqvist posted a lap time of 1:45:454. That's more than 5 seconds faster than the IndyCar lap shown in this video.
Tim O'Glock your video comparison was great!
Tim O'Glock Colton Herta won the race at COTA today, 18 year old Rookie. The racing I saw today irl was nothing like the right side of the video haha i wish this could be updated, makes indy look slow
and 15 seconds slower than the 2018 Hamilton Mercedes F1 ...
I heard from experts, that the F1 2019 will be faster than 4 seconds in the 2018 vehicle counters.
so it is possible that the F1 car can achieve a lap time of 1 minute and 27 or 28 seconds ..wooooooow
@@erinastray Because Indy is slow in comparison with F1 You just can't compare... You just have to see that the drivers that can't succeed in F1 end up in Indy... That doesnt tell you nothing? Bourdais is a 4 time Champion of the Champ Car. He went to F1 and did nothing. Alexander Rossi was also in the F1 and I dont remember nothing of him, but here he is a star...
Marcos Casado so they are good enough to drive in formula one for a few seasons which would make them one of the top 20 drivers in the world but as soon as they move to Indy they suck? F1 is all about the car. Thy never had good enough ride in F1. They became stars in Indy because it is a spec series where the cars are on a much more level playing field. Their true driving skills show through.
If Williams disguised their car as an Indycar, they may actually start winning again.
nvstewart, they have one of the strongest power units on the grid, though…
Engine isn't everything though in F1
It would breakdown
Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha
😂 😂 😂
Mercedes’ budget can buy the whole Indycar franchise.
TheGomezIndustries Indy car is better than u think
@@joshuaw_270 lol
@@joshuaw_270 america the land of copycat
John McKenzie indycar is only hated on because of napcar soiling America’s Motorsport name. Indycar is very different from F1 and the main reason why I don’t like interacting with 80% of F1 fans is because they think f1 is soooooo much better than anything else. F1s and indys dont even look that similar but u go on and watch cocomellon Mr.BigBoy.
JoshuaW_2 no cocomelon pls
reminds me of a video where an f1 driver and a nascar driver switched places, the nascar driver said it was the most intense experience ever, the F1 driver said it was fun
Different skill sets. A F1 driver would probably never win or place well in NASCAR.
Yeah I doubt that
@@TwoLotus2 lmao Kimi Raikkonen did decently considering 0 experience
@@TwoLotus2 the same as how a NASCAR driver wouldn't do too well in a Grand Prix
@@TwoLotus2 And a Nascar driver would fall unconscious after the first corner in a Grand Prix considering F1 drivers experience similar Gs to Fighter Pilots
It’s like watching Verstappen’s and Latifi’s qualifying laps at Turkey this year.
Decent. Yeah, Verstappen in Q3 went 1.47.765 with Latifi lapping at 2.21.611 for Q1, split at 33.846, almost double the time here. And if you factor in that the quali lap for Indy was 5 seconds faster, that knocks it down to 12. Verstappen almost tripled it. Granted resurfacing and cold temps. But yeah, Turkey was not pretty, threw everyone's average gap over teammate stats right out the window. The average distance from pole to P20 as of post Turkey was 5.198 seconds, before that it was only 2.918. 2020 has been a banger!
More like Stroll and Latifi
@@salmanfarruz an cuz max set the fastest lap of the day (but in q2)
@@waitwhat3222 No he didn’t, Verstappen set a 1:50 in Q2 and the pole time was a 1:47
@@truenorthben you do realise track evolution is a thing right it was much dryer in Q3 then Q1 hence the ridiculous gap
So this is what the Ferrari feels like huh.
Ouch
Spin
@@khoado2060 s🅱️innala moments.
@@wee5207 you mean s🅱️innala
The Great Ferrari Master Plan™
The thing is in Indy car you don’t know who’s gonna win the race
This didn’t age well
@@davisbrett44 how so?
@@quintenzappe3412 have you seen the races this year?
@@davisbrett44 yeah 10 races with 8 different winners. I'd say that's a pretty good spread
@@quintenzappe3412 I meant f1 with not knowing who is going to win! Max and Hamilton are battling it out let alone Perez, Lando, and Bottas in the mix.
It is fun to compare the cars. I enjoy it and I'm a huge fan of both disciplines, including Nascar, drag racing or two snails running across the floor. I'll watch 'em because it's racing. I watch every one of those series when they are on TV. I follow them all. I hope we all can enjoy all racing for what it's worth: entertainment. The incredible acceleration and track stickiness of F1 cars, the insane 235+ MPH top speed of the Indy cars, the sound and excitement of 40+ Nascars tearing around tracks, the slickness of E-racing and the TT on the Isle of Mann. What we see are drivers with huge testicles and skill that we dream of having. We are in awe. Let's not negatively compare the series to each other. Ironically the two drivers shown here in this clip are my favorites from their respective series.
well said
A true motorsports fan here!
snails races are the most extreme and intensive type of races
@@FRIXER753 snail racing is the pinnacle of motorsport
*change my mind*
@@KitKitChanIsaac cannot argue with that
The cornering speed of the F1 car is just insane
I give IndyCar drivers massive credit for wrestling those things around a track, it doesn’t look easy. Compare that to Lewis’ car going precisely wherever he points it
That’s what power steering does for you, but yeah, it always amazed me how they’re wrestling the car for the entire race trying not to crash
You call that wrestling?
I’m used to seeing F1 cars go fast but looking at this comparison, it just opened my eyes on how fast they truly are.
Why can’t F1 and Indycar fans get along and have a beer? They’re both different, and it’s like comparing apples to oranges.
Because F1 fans are snobs
@@EricBurns1 They really are.
Indycar is a better sport to watch for fans and more enjoyable racing but F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport.
I enjoy both. As a long time F1 fan though I think it’s going in the wrong direction with so many things and I’d rather watch indycar at this point.
@@themarketm8382 it's all to please motor companies. F1 doesn't really care much for sustainability. They've recently added races in countries with lots of oil after all. The thing is cars are either going electric or hybrid. However, to keep an ice engine, they'd have to use sustainable fuels to run them. Companies like Mercedes, Porsche and Toyota have been very vocal about sustainability in their projects. With their fuel, F1 would be making a lot of money. Another thing is the low emission V6s with hybrid systems are developed so car manufacturers can make more efficient engines. Going back to V10s (or V8s, which I prefer) would mean falling out with all of these companies who are looking for sustainability and efficiency. Believe it or not, this trend is mostly for economic benefits. As much as I like the push towards sustainability, F1 isn't doing it for moral reasons
Edit: also, another thing is it would likely cost manufacturers a lot money to redevelop V8s/V10s, which is a fair point. At the moment, Renault, Mercedes, Ferrari and Honda have similar engines. They wouldn't wanna risk another team having an enormous advantage through engine development, like Mercedes in 2014
Comparing Hamilton's 2018 pole lap and a IndyCar preseason testing lap is absurd from the start. Considering the triple digit million dollar budget differences for just one F1 team, IndyCar produces an incredible racing machine and franchise. 231 MPH pole speed for the 2020 Indy 500 is jaw dropping and I'm pretty sure an F1 car wouldn't be competitive at Indy because they're hybrids and rely on energy harvesting to replenish their battery and at Indy it's flat out, very little braking.
I watch and love both series. They are 2 different animals, both exceptional at what they do.
Na realidade as pessoas confundem velocidade em retas , com performance,a F indy tem uma velocidade final maior porque o carro é projetado pra correr basicamente em oval, agora isso não é sinônimo carro mais rápido,o F 1 é projetado pra correr o mais rápido possível em um determinado espaço de tempo, então isso o torna a máquina mais rápida e perfeita das pistas mundiais por isso nenhuma categoria do mundo chega perto em performance 🤔
Many of the "F1 is better" comments are probably really Europe vs USA. Europeans are exposed to F1 mostly & Americans are exposed to Indy and NASCAR mainly,we can all enjoy both sports regardless of your country.
F1 downforce is just magnificent
ive always wondered what it feels like to go through a corner in an f1 car
@@muddaboolshit6963 fucking Billings, that’s for sure
Feels like those spinning anti gravity rides, your just pinned to the side
Shame it completely ruins the races
@@dopiaza2006 if it wasn't for downforce the cars would fly off the track and spin out and have no grip
Lots of difference, the Indycar looks harder to drive. Love both series, but Indycar is way more competitive which makes it more entertaining to watch
f1 is far more harder to control in competitive way
That is nice. I always wanted to see that battle on the same circuit.
Indycar program costs around $10 million, F1 $135 million. Sort of makes sense which is the faster machine. F1 is the pinacle of racing but I much prefer the competitiveness and balance of IndyCar - makes for a better viewing experience.
I didnt really care about indycar. I thaught it was just f1 but worse. But this f1 season has open my eyes. I love indycar! F1 is so boring
@@saltyaphid3195 only american like you would choose indycar over f1😂😂
@@m.a.i7324 do you realize a large part of indycars audience is in oceania and scandinavia? Indycar has lots of international drivers. Most americans care more about nascar.
I only like indycar because its better racing, not because its american. You never know who's gonna win an indycar race.
That 135 million is developing tomorrow’s road car technology. F1 is more than a racing series.
Ones designed to be quick round a race track.
One designed to go pretty much full throttle for 500 miles.
Different engine settings and gear ratios.
I appreciate this is 3 years after you made this comment, but doesn’t Indy use different spec of cars for the oval tracks compared to normal tracks? Or has that happened since making this comment?
@@arkham3745no, they’ve used completely different aero setups and wings for ages on ovals and circuits. This really isn’t a good comparison
Both are beautiful machines. I think the indycar is more raw but that's not a bad thing. I love both sports. Truly amazing drivers.
Nice work man, Props I am subscribing thanks for sharing
I enjoy watching F1, IndyCar, MotoGP, NASCAR, and practically all kinds of motorsports. They're all unique in their own ways, no need to compare and rank which is the best and worst
F1 needs to bring back the normally aspirated V-8s, V-10s, and V-12s. I miss the sound.
Wow. Thanks for the video. I always wondered which was faster nowadays. Both cars are super fast with the F1 car being the obvious faster one on this video. The F1 and IRL racing series specifications are different though. Still, I like the way both cars look and sound on the track. Watching a race with similar spec cars, makes for the excitement, whether it be F1, IRL, Nascar, etc. Personally, I grew up with the media touting the Indianapolis 500 as the greatest racing event, and so I am partial to the sound of the term "Indianapolis".
Keep in mind that Indycar dosen't have power steering or the downforce as a F1 car has. Which means cornering at 100mph in a Indycar is more harder than a F1 car.
"more" harder?
F1 is for pussies
Because Gforces is not a thing, right.
I love how the f1 had a later start on the track in this video and it overtook the indycar in like 100m
no, the start is at the line, they started the lap at the same time
Lol I randomly came across this and just realised you're the guy I finished 2nd to in a 2016 Automobilista esports time trial competition
I love both sports they’re both amazing, I knew F1 was faster but Indycar is still cool.
To me indy is a lot cooler, because it is much more a car, and less a spaceship.
That 300 extra hp really makes a difference
All these people saying IndyCar sucks or is inferior... The things you learn while driving fast on the ovals in Indy is not replicated in F1 .... Thats why when Villeneuve passed Schumacher on the outside at the Portuguese Grand Prix in '97... Schumacher said "it was one of the most dangerous moves hes ever seen" and Villeneuve laughed it off and said "Come race an Indy Oval"
Two different disiplines that requires a different skills to be successful in. Both are great series in their own way.
When you turn on the ghost of the fastest online lap time for the circuit...
For simple perspective Indycar speeds around a balanced circuit are almost exactly equal to f2. 17 seconds a lap slower is going to get lapped every 6 laps. 17 seconds is such a big margin that no matter how much you analyse it they are two different worlds, from the fastest teams to the slowest the difference is massive. If F1 raced ovals then the top end would also be higher, it's clearly not beneficial on any f1 circuit so they just don't need it.
1998 mclaren mp4 is only 5 sec slower per lap than 2022 model. which means that 25 years old formula 1 car is 12 sec faster than 2018 indycar.
Indy is more of a drivers series. The car won't cover your mistakes
???
Wtf, F1 has just higher grip.... If you will mistake, you will also spin.
F1 is a special animal. That extra little bit of aggression and speed it has over indy is like the difference between MLS and British Premier League soccer. That little bit makes all the difference.
lap times dont matter in tv broadcast. the public want to see real spectacle, car to car racing. in f1 only matter the constructor of the car, its a engineering race, not a drivers championship
Something to remember is that the average IndyCar team costs 7% as much to run for a season then an F1 team, yet the cars can keep pace on an oval.
How boring is a oval though
@@kevinwilliams1421 less boring then HAM VER BOT
It is just national, not world wide.
@@soisaidtogod4248 coat was about the same when it was the CART and CHAMP Car World Championship
The disrespect all these “F1” fans have for Indy is gross. The machinery may not be up to par but don’t disrespect the league. It’s the same league F1 champion Fernando Alonso tried to just waltz into and ended getting lapped and finishing 21st in the Indy 500.
coz hes an european and so not familiar with the weird shit your constructors call "cars". Even Toyota prototypes from WEC would teach your "Indy Cars" a lesson coming up to a real racing circuit and not oval racing or however you guys call that bs in which even a 10 y old girl could win.
@@ilovebeer420 the budgets between WEC F1 and indy car are completely different. Not to mention that indy car is a spec series. And I don’t think you have any idea how much skill required to get a NASCAR up to speed around an oval. European F1 fans are so are arrogant
@@ilovebeer420 you are either delusional or a prick...Also I am not American
@@coltonthomas6162 I mean kimi raikkonen did insanely well on the first day driving Nascar and remember he drove against the real Nascar league on the first fucking day he drove one so idk what you want but Nascar certainly not harder than f1 or indycar
Also the series where a trash driver like Grosjean seems actually decent.
I like both because they are different. Being different offers different driving experience ... as a humble simracer though. Instead of having more of the same thing better I have two nice different things.
F1 with Ham feels like sliding and waving thru the corners
Indy feels like a rough potatoe bouncing and fighting their way in. I've got to bring more respect to these drivers.
F1 is the pinnacle of global motorsport, Indy Car is a national series, for a national series they're absolutely rapid. Not many other nations have their own single seater formula that can hold a candle to F1. Maybe Formula Nippon in Japan only.
It's amazing how fast the Indycar is...which makes the speed of the Formula 1 car even more incredible. Respect to both. Now let's do a lap of, hmmm...Indianapolis itself. Just for grins
Never had a chance being compared to Hamilton
I don't really know what this comparison is supposed to prove, but it sure is stroking the wood of a lot of people in the comments for whatever reason.
The designs of these vehicles are completely different from the ground up. This isn't early 90s F1 vs CART. Might as well compare Rally to Cup cars.
F1 leads all the great technological innovations you see in the normal cars, the F1 is the pinnacle of the technology, period.
At least Indy succeeds in centering that top camera.
An ancient art forgotten since 1997 f1 season
Giovanni G well they had to make room for the rear facing cam in 1998. Plus, I think the offset looks kinda cool
Well... From reading alot of these comments.. I'm now dumb "but just for now lol".. They're all different series people. *They* **A L L** *have pros and cons!* So Why hate on other series & the people that like those series??!!!!
I like them all, fascinating in there own different ways.. You should all try doing that to.. Just a thought for y'all.. Cheers from Down Under 🇦🇺 😉
Lucky you have v8 supercars
@@saltyaphid3195 Yeah they're the main Aussie racing cars.. Ironic because they're both actually American Companies 🤣..
But they've been modified/specialised to become *Australian V8 Supercars...* I don't follow the series that much, but I think I'm more pro Camaro team..
Do You prefer the Camaro's or Mustangs?
@@wildone8397 i dont know, but i know they have good racing
I dont get why some people get so caught up in which is "better". Theyre different, no point in arguing it when everyone already knows f1 is superior.
Alonso in the IndyCar - "GP2! GP2 engine!"
More like GP1 lol
Nice! Would it be te same in an oval ring?
The F1 has 600 cc less capacity and 1 less turbo than Indycar. Guess that's the power of extreme development budget.
So this is how it felt to drive for minardi in the 80/90s
😂😂
minardi in 1990 was 5th in costructor championship. i think you mean Life engeneering
Kimi: "Bwoah! This Alfa is just crap..."
*F1 stans trying to make a cringe comment to make a stupid argument*
It would be interesting to see a spec series like Indycar but with much faster cars than Indycar. Fenders would already take 2 or 3 seconds off the time. Then, there are things like raised noses, winglets, more horsepower, blown diffusers, active suspensions that would certainly make them significantly faster. Imagine a spec series with cars as fast as F1 cars. That would be spectacular imo
Indy is working on a newer faster car it was supposed to be this year but delayed till next they are Making the cars faster
but it may ruin indycar. Bottom teams already cant compete bc they have no money. Introducing a new more expensive car will make it worse
You cannot compare F1 and Indycar with each other because they are two different disciplines with their own character and identity. I've been following F1 for 20 years, but as a true racing fan, I think an Indycar race on an oval is also beautiful to see because there are so many other tactics and skills involved
"there are so many other tactics and skills involved
" that's just false XD .. you do not have to come up with bs reasons to justify your love for indycar..you are allowed to love it..believe it or not XD
@@amitabhp666 You literally have no idea what oval racing is
@@theread3480 see.. your condescending and overused line that the other person knows "literally" nothing about oval racing might work on others... but it doesn't work on me...so pipe down mate
Ovals, are bush league.
@@theread3480do you?
Is that IndyCar a modern one? I see a halo on f1 car but not the screen on IndyCar or am I missing something?I very well could be as I not fully up with IndyCar
F1 is from 2018, indycar from 2019, I believe
i love seeing the difference with power steering, f1 is all calm just driving, and indycar is like it’s swerving through rocks
Calm? Watch Richard Hammond trying to put two laps down in an F1 car... I doubt driving an F1 car has ever been described as calm LOL... but it has to be said that the drivers at these levels do make it look like it's just down to tyre choices when in reality the level of concentration and skill to maintain focus at these extreme acceleration and braking sequences over 50 or so laps which 15 other cars on the track is incredible. These drivers are superhuman
I say this as a huge fan of F1: Now put these two cars on an oval and we will see which one is still running at the end of a race, it is unlikely to be the highly strung Grand Prix car. Different cars, different strokes...
Vc está totalmente enganado,se os engenheiros da F 1 quiserem eles fazem um F 1 ganhar de dragster na arrancada então vencer o F indy ou qualquer outra categoria não é problema,no final os F 1 ganham!
Old comment but whatever. If F1 ever got to an oval track, the team would prepare special aeropackage for oval racing and probably tune down engine to rev lower. And yes then F1 would obliterate stock cars and Indy on their own turf.
Let's say let the Mercedes team or Red bull team 2 weeks for the entire work force of engineers at their disposal and let either of them spend the $400million budget for the entire F1 season to get the package just for that oval race then maybe the F1 car might actually give an indy car a decent race. 😂😂😂
Its almost like one series is based on manufacturers development and one is a spec series.....
Nicolaas Doyle Yeah and which is more entertaining
Kona Ice Cup Series that’s a very objective question, if you want to watch pure racing skill, then indycar, but there’s more money in F1 so the better drivers usually go there. But it’s unfortunate sometimes when great drivers get seats in poor cars, it’s wasted talent and I hate seeing that. They are both fun and both entertaining, whichever one you prefer is your prerogative
@@ellleventy1163 "pure racing skill". You do know that f1 is much harder to drive.
@@mabra33 Pure racing skill in the sense that all the cars are the same, so the racing is just from drivers skill. And although I've never driven an indy car or an F1 car, and I doubt you have either, I would argue that the less amount of downforce on the indy car would make it more difficult to drive.
@@ellleventy1163 but the g force in the f1 car is much much higher, and g force is the most demanding thing in motorsport
These Comments make me question why we watch racing..? It’s to be entertained... and frankly, IndyCar is consistently way more entertaining from the drop of the green flag to the white flag...
This is why no f1 car should be called slow
Okay - F1 now is a lot quicker than Indycar. But when I saw for the first time Indy 500 in 2015 and all these crazy overtakes at 300 kmh + I thought this is just crazy! And I am saying that as a huge fan of F1 :D
Why are people saying american tech is bad? they do know that dallara (italian) designed this caf
No. Lol
@@johnbigelson7471 what?
@@ryanmazumder4535 Im agreeing with you. Most of it is just ignorance or euro-fanboying without knowing even what the DW12 is. Then again, most of them wouldn't know who Dan Wheldon was either.
Well when you got a Mercedes comparing times with a Chevy/Honda, what do you expect
In passenger cars, HONDA'S are way more reliable than Mercedes
really ? just watch Verspatten 's Honda lunching on 2 of those, turn one, mexican gp 2021.
Also, give me a Honda Accord any day over any german money pit crapbox..
(Actually I ride a cheap Chevy Spark and quite happy with it haha).
It certainly looks like the specs on the F1 machines make for more speed through turns, more rapid deceleration under braking, I couldn't tell about top straight line speed. The tires on the F1 cars looked like they put substantially more rubber on the track surface which would make a huge difference on a road surface for all three dynamic situations, acceleration, breaking and turning.
I suspect the F1 cars might STILL have an advantage on an oval like Indianapolis, but maybe the gap would be less? A track like COTA is the natural habitat of the F1 technology, everything tailored made for that.
The F1 stuff does look more demanding to drive, so it's hard to argue that their drivers aren't the very best. But the "space program" budgets of the F1 teams....wow!
I suppose Indycar could spec up their machines and be as quick as F1, but that might not make for better racing for venues like the ovals. Would it compromise safety running F1 specs on ovals? I don't know.
No reason not to love Indycar racing though. "Gentlemen (and and sometimes Ladies)....Start your Engines!" (I'm old school, sorry)
+1 point to Indycar for sounding cooler.
These arguments over f1 or indycar... I've been and indycar fan my whole life, grew up in Indiana and my father and I shared love for the series.... and even I know that indycar is like AAA baseball where formula 1 is the major league. I still love indycar, and being a spec series they put on great race day shows
Indy might be slower but it definitely has more racing action
Faster lap times do not make for a better race, again IndyCar put on a far better show than Formula One this year.
The Indycar reminds me of F1 during the Schumacher era. Fast on the straights, a lot to handle on the corners. I feel like that allows a skill gap to emerge between drivers. I like it.
The early 2000 Ferraris were way faster than an IndyCar
Why can’t F1 fans accept and respect nascar and Indycar and nascar indycar fans accept F1 at the end of the day it’s all motor racing just enjoy the brilliant racing from all domains of motor racing
because "muh British excellence"
Because F1 is full of snobs and wankers. Riccardo excepted. But I'm biased being an Aussie.
I've seen both F1 and Indy.
F1 you cannot get NEAR the drivers or cars. And it's boring, but this year with Rik changes is looking a lot better
Indy? You can pay a bit extra for pit walks, talk to the mechanics and drivers if they're about. Even go in the garage and touch the cars if you ask permission
I started watching NHRA when I was a kid in the late 60s. Then the Indy 500 every year, NASCAR and F1 whenever I could get a TV signal from across Lake Erie. I love every kind of racing and attend in person whenever I get a chance. I even like tractor pulling, anything with a loud, bad ass motor is entertaining to me.
Try and catch V8 Supercars in Australia. World regarded as the greatest production road car based series in the world.
CZcams "Bathurst 1000 closest wins". Bathurst is to us what Daytona 500 is to Americans. Except Baffist is better. 😁
It's actually a public road the rest of the year. A STUNNING track. Steep as hell on a mountain. I've driven it and been to the race many times. Little country town in New South Wales.
If you REALLY want to see something you tube 'Bathurst burning cars'. Everyone gets blind 24hrs a day. You can camp there. For days before. It gets WILD at night, but they KNOW their stuff. No riots and bad manners tolerated, wild behaviour expected
ANY international driver knows it and desire to race their one day.
Honestly, check it out
Mostly 5.0 and 5.8 litre Ford's and Holden's (GM).
Of course rules and cars have changed over the years, but to Aussies it'll ALWAYS be 'Home Of The V8s'
@@kdwaynec Read my comment below yours, re V8 Supercars......
I think I'd rather go for the Indycar. Watching Hinchcliffe work the wheel, the car seems more "alive" in his hands, taking a bit more steering input to keep straight. It hearkens back to older days of Formula 1, where the cars seemed less stable and more driven by man.
both are great
is that glock going slowly it is its glock
It's so far ahead, doesn't even look like the same track
I would never of thought the difference would of been so large
If you don’t like Indycar, you’re an F1 only.
If you don’t like F1, you only watch American sports
If you like them both, you’re a Motorsport fan
not true lmao. you are a motorsport fan if you like any racing series.
@@finnxmusic Thank you for repeating what I said sir 👍
@@sandalphoncpu "If you don’t like Indycar, you’re an F1 only.
"
The funny thing is if you freezeframe the beginning of the video, the indycar even has a headstart
Take it from someone who watches both Formula 1 and IndyCar (and loves each) every race day: Formula 1 and IndyCar are completely different series in every way except for both being open-wheel; the similarities end there. The cars are designed for completely different styles of racing with vastly different rules and financial commitments in terms of development. I'll cover the big ones:
Engine - While both run twin turbo V6s, F1 cars are actually hybrids that drastically improve performance in terms of acceleration (this is partly why Mercedes has dominated as a constructor; the tech is extremely expensive and they have the resources to be the best at its implementation).
Steering - F1 cars have power steering, IndyCars don't. The IndyCar COTA race was laughed at because there were several turns where track limits weren't enforced, but that's because IndyCars can't actually make the corner at speed by design (COTA itself was designed for Formula 1 racing).
Cost - You can field an IndyCar for around $3,000,000, and all the cars are basically the same except for running either a Honda or Chevy engine. By contrast, fielding an F1 car can cost hundreds of millions and varies widely depending on the financial commitment of the constructor. Again, this is why Mercedes dominates (their budget for 2019 alone was almost half a billion US dollars).
Driver skill - Generally speaking, IndyCar races feature more parity since the equipment provides a level playing field, so driver skill counts for a lot as you fight the car around the track. F1 drivers, arguably the most skilled motorsport drivers in the world, are almost completely anchored to the technical strength of the car. Hamilton wins everything because he's an excellent driver in an excellent car, Raikkonen loses everything because he's an excellent driver in a garbage car, and so it goes. The car is so important that a statistically weak driver like Bottas (sorry Finns) can still compete for pole and the win every race despite being out-skilled by other drivers in the field.
So yeah, a side-by-side video comparing the two is cool and all, but it's just a novelty. You can't compare these series. F1 cars are the quickest, most technically advanced, and probably require the greatest skill to drive without wrecking, but IndyCar is actually still the fastest series there is at a top speed of 240mph (for no other reason other than they race at IMS, their flagship race).
It’s cool to see that the Indy car got out of the very first turn of the video quicker than the f1 but still can’t hold the lead for long at all
It's not even the difference in speed that's amazing. It's the smoothness and refinement. F1 is so advanced it just glides over the track. It deletes the bumps with the extremely advanced suspension that soaks everything up. Looking at the F1 onboard you'd say the track was smooth as silk, while Indy car makes it look like it's very bumpy.
From the braking zone at turn one to the entry to turn two the f1 car gained nearly 1 second.
By the time they had negotiated the esses the f1 car had pulled out a 4 second lead.
19 seconds a lap means the indy car is lapped within 4 or 5 laps.
Over a 60+ lap race...well, it's embarrassing.
It is a big gap for sure but why is it embarrassing? They are 2 different leagues with different rules
Bro... Mercedes spent $484M in 2019 on their F1 program. Meanwhile, the top Indy teams spend about $10M/year. No KERS, no power steering, way less downforce, etc. The engine alone for a Formula 1 car costs over $10M! It's like being "embarrassed" your GT4 car got beat by a GT3 car.
@@daedalus_20v
So, what you are saying, is the premier motorsport of America is a pathetic joke compared to the premier motorsport of Europe?
That the U.S, as rich as it is, as big as its car companies are, as big as the crowds its races gets, can only offer something as dated and slow as the Indy car?
That's the best you can do?
I thought U.S engineering was better than that is all.
@@prophetascending9021 Nah, that's not what I'm saying, that's what _you're_ saying. What _I'm_ saying is how stupid that is. If you think Indy cars aren't as fast as F1 because the United States "can't do it" ....wow, I don't even know what to say to that.
@@daedalus_20v
Then why aren't they as well engineered?
What's the reason?
The reason is the U.S can't make a race car that can compete...it's that simple.
They can't in open wheel categories, nor GT, nor touring car, not bikes...none of it.
Europe and Japan are light years ahead of anything you can make.
i love how not even into turn one and its already 1 sec behind
That was helped by the fact that the F1 car crossed the start/finish line half a second earlier than the Indycar.
And a few hundred million cheaper
THEY ARE COMPARING LAP TIMES
The real difference:
F1: 20 passes, sleeping race
IndyCar: 76493629 passes, very emotions
Plus 18 seconds in one lap, thats insane
F1 has become a video game-like race, too much of electronic assists. Look how much steer correction indy car driver made compared to F1 driver
The only assist F1 drivers get is the power steering, no ABS or traction control like in the past. I think the smoothness comes from 1) higher downforce 2) overall design of the car and setup 3) the driver being a 7 time world champion. They still have to control nearly 1000bhp and are pulling high Gs through corners, so it's far from a video game.
@@cybersaiko451 Nah mate it's because Indycar gets less techy stuff because it's all stock.
The IndyCar is like watching an F1 driver trying to hustle an outlap on cold tires.
Yes, but what is more enjoyable to watch? Indy? or F1?
What a great display of British engineering!!
you can't compare two cars with such a high power diversity. 1000 hp f1 and 650 hp indy, not to mention the fine aerodynamics of the f1.
"You can't compare" yet the video did just that.
You also saw the same number of passes in the F1 video as you would see in an entire race.
haha poor idiot, you have no clue what u r saying huh?
F1: Manufacturers Championship
Indycar: Drivers championship
i.e. in F1 money will buy a win, Indy is Spec and skill is more important
I want to see an open wheel multiclass race like an IMSA or WEC
captions: *music*
me: yes, music to my ears
Indy may be slower but they do this thing called overtaking
Indy isn't slower it's faster in a straight line yet f1 is faster in corners
Whey slower and less overtaking despite there drivers are worse and make more mistakes. Motorsports just isn't an american thing.
@@ti8864 im from Germany you genius
@@G40s_WW Ahnung hast du deswegen aber trotzdem nicht
@@ti8864 vergleich mal ein F1 Rennen mit einem Indy Rennen, bei einem Indy Rennen ist viel mehr Action
The indycar would be getting lapped within the first quarter of the race 😂
Not on an Oval Sir..AN INDYCAR HAS A MUCH HIGHER SUSTAINED TOP SPEED...IT WOULD DESTROY AN F1 CAR ON AN OPEN OVAL
@@richarddobson3138, it would take a week for F1 team to mod it's car to be competitive in oval racing.
Having said that, I'm enjoying Indy more due to same cars for all drivers. Yet, we can't argue with superiority of F1 bolids.
@@Maciek80511 Are you going to allow IndyCar modifications also??? The argument isnt modifications or what if...The argument is which series has the cars with the fastest top speeds in the world...And that's easy...IndyCar
@@richarddobson3138, that would be F1 car. I thought we discuss how F1 would sustain top speed over a longer distance as it's not build for it.
And that is why f1 gets the world's best drivers and why its considered the number 1 in single seater racing
I still think the ultimate test would be seeing how an F1 car would do on an oval like Indy, Michigan or Fontana. Someone said on another post I made about this subject that the F1 cars would initially do well, but as the laps wore on they would lose power due to them not regenerating the batteries.
Indycar would blow f1 away as soon as it got up to speed, but f1 would lead for the start, that’s the difference between the 2, f1 accelerates quicker while INDYCAR has a higher top speed