Sumps and why are they the greatest thing ever for reef aquariums

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  • čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
  • A sump is basically a secondary tank that your main display tank drains down into. They allow for a number of advantages for reef aquariums and I would personally never set up a system without one. Why do I love these things so much? First off, a sump is a great place to relocate all of your equipment. In systems that are just a stand-alone tank, the more technology that is added can start to clutter things up. The second big benefit to a sump is the surface skimming that an overflow provides. A big problem with tanks without an overflow is that scum tends to collect on the top surface. When the water in a main display drains down into a sump, the surface is cleared up nicely. The third advantage to having a sump is it provides additional water volume. Water volume is nice because it makes the overall system more consistent in terms of temperature and water chemistry because changes happen more slowly in larger volumes of water. The fourth advantage is flexibility. You can set up a sump in many different ways. You can make them as simple or as complicated as you like. There are plenty of people that use a regular glass aquarium as a sump but in this video we take a look at a high end sump that has specialized sections. Hopefully this video gave you some ideas for your own setup. If you like this video, please give it a thumbs up.
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Komentáře • 134

  • @rainingmackenzie
    @rainingmackenzie Před 7 lety

    Mr T , You nail it once again. Smooth Clean and Clear information. NO mucking around . Thank you

  • @howardgilmour8464
    @howardgilmour8464 Před 6 lety

    Took me years to learn without the internet, what you managed to explain in 7.27! Fantastic video, well made, narrated, backed up with imagery and some amazing specimens too. Great effort and love the video. Took me back to those amazing wonder years as a kid trying to figure out all the complexity of the marine environment.

  • @davidmichael3137
    @davidmichael3137 Před 4 lety +1

    I started this hobby as a kid over 30 years ago, I wish I thought of sumps back then, they are a must have IMO knowing what I know now.

  • @christophersims2302
    @christophersims2302 Před 7 lety

    Well done. I am about to start my first salt water and this was a great video on sumps. thank you

  • @baileybrown2480
    @baileybrown2480 Před 7 lety +1

    thanks for the info I'm planning on getting my first saltwater set up going in January and your videos have helped me a lot! I'm so excited to get to the next step in my tanks!

  • @DeeFromBrooklyn
    @DeeFromBrooklyn Před 7 lety

    Sump designs are endless in this day and age. i like your tub in the greenhouse

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 7 lety

      I like the size for sure, but I am all about transparency now. I want to be able to see into the sides of everything so stuff doesn't get neglected.

    • @DeeFromBrooklyn
      @DeeFromBrooklyn Před 7 lety

      +Tidal Gardens Inc. How about a Cylindrical acrylic sump

  • @cyngravatt123
    @cyngravatt123 Před 6 lety

    Thank you so much... I’ve been going crazy trying to solve this problem for a long time

  • @Tokyuuu
    @Tokyuuu Před 7 lety

    As always spot on 10/10 video content :) Keep up the excellent work!

  • @northerniggy8261
    @northerniggy8261 Před 7 lety +1

    Overhead sumps work well also, for smaller tanks. My 80gal has a built-in overhead sump in the Canopy (freshwater). So I pump the water 'up' and the sump overflows back down into the tank using gravity.

  • @emmanuelperez4830
    @emmanuelperez4830 Před 7 lety

    great Video. keep these coming. Great job!

  • @ScottM
    @ScottM Před 7 lety

    Awesome and informative video Than. Your friends sump is really nice and well thought out.

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 7 lety

      Thanks. I tend to go for just a really big tank to use as a sump while others like it very compartmentalized.

  • @zaher.w
    @zaher.w Před 7 lety

    Awesome videos man I really thank for your efforts

  • @stellarlivingstoned
    @stellarlivingstoned Před 4 lety

    I'm happy reefing right now... thank you very much

  • @Richs_reef
    @Richs_reef Před 6 lety

    Great video and explanation

  • @simonstone2133
    @simonstone2133 Před 7 lety +4

    love all your vidoes, your voice is very relaxing to listern to

  • @SaltwaterGardens
    @SaltwaterGardens Před 7 lety +1

    Indeed, best information video about sumps. Nice Than

  • @antrikx7076
    @antrikx7076 Před 7 lety

    Extremely good & informative video & very well planned. Felt like a professional documentary. thanks

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      @ephraimjustice8649 Před 2 lety

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  • @NettosChannel
    @NettosChannel Před 6 lety

    Very nice tank!!

  • @ferozkaamil1
    @ferozkaamil1 Před 7 lety +1

    Best information video about sump.
    keep it up.
    thank you

  • @Jolopy8000
    @Jolopy8000 Před 7 lety

    Sumps I love them! One day I'll have a Rubbermaid tub like you they seem awesome

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 7 lety

      The Rubbermaids are inexpensive as well. Less than $1 per gallon.

    • @Jolopy8000
      @Jolopy8000 Před 7 lety

      I wish I could have one. My tank is on the 2nd floor and if I get a Rubbermaid tub it would have to be at least a 150g one and I don't think it would be able to hold lol!

  • @ManCaveReef
    @ManCaveReef Před 6 lety

    Nice video and good information

  • @Thunderkat65
    @Thunderkat65 Před 5 lety

    I had a very large tiger cowrie in a tank once until it grew fond of sitting on top of and plugging the drain to the sump. After the second time it flooded my carpet I donated it to a local pet store.

  • @HWolfe
    @HWolfe Před 5 lety

    Execellent breakdown on sumps; I needed this!👌

  • @DrinkhtooO
    @DrinkhtooO Před 7 lety

    Great video Than...

  • @kurtcooper3699
    @kurtcooper3699 Před 6 lety

    Thanks than. Awesome!

  • @StreetArtistsOfTheWorld

    Good info!

  • @CharlesLales
    @CharlesLales Před 7 lety

    Hi, nice video, calm and instructive ;) For freshwater, what could be the best sump options / components / modules? Moreover, where can we order them online in Europa.. and even better, where can I find a dealer / good brand in Europa..?

  • @drdurso3114
    @drdurso3114 Před 4 lety

    GREAT vid. Thanks! If anyone is thinking of building a sump, you should check out the playing around I've been doing for the last year with durso overflows. Surprising what I found regarding flow rates and such

  • @gordiefrench5342
    @gordiefrench5342 Před 7 lety

    the most peaceful videos are from tidal thank you than
    i use a 40 gal as a refuge but can't find any macro that are colorful as yours here in canada.
    every time i ask a fish store for some i get a strange look.

  • @jimedwards9310
    @jimedwards9310 Před 6 lety

    very nice

  • @marineaquarium5235
    @marineaquarium5235 Před 7 lety

    Two things you mentioned that I love, overflow blockage testing and water volume.

  • @spoolingsx90
    @spoolingsx90 Před 7 lety

    My main display is in my living room I would like to run my sump from my basement will I have a c02 build up from that and what would be a good return pump thank you

  • @CrazySpikkie
    @CrazySpikkie Před 3 lety

    Great information on the video, can you tell me about the AI lights you are using and the settings pls?

  • @Mindboggle100
    @Mindboggle100 Před 7 lety

    Than, as always an excellent, informative video... Now its my turn to offer you advice. Never let a woman get "under your skin", even if she is a reefer! ;-) All the best to you...

  • @ngocly8943
    @ngocly8943 Před 6 lety

    The best video

  • @rockmicah4060
    @rockmicah4060 Před 6 lety

    7:01 which is that coral on far right side

  • @pschrum4me
    @pschrum4me Před 7 lety +1

    Than have you ever seen a sump that used xenia as a filtration method like macro algea? I have heard of these and have my doubts. Do you have any thoughts on using xenia or other coral, maybe even clams as a means of filtering out particulates in the water column?

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 7 lety

      I haven't personally no. I've also heard of people considering Aiptasia filters, but never in practice. Clams however supposedly reduce nitrates.

  • @12HENSON12
    @12HENSON12 Před 6 lety

    was that a load of red carpet nems at 1:28 ?

  • @brucegcastro6951
    @brucegcastro6951 Před 7 lety

    Cool and interesting

  • @hustlecoralvlogs7675
    @hustlecoralvlogs7675 Před 7 lety

    Im making a system out of 3 tanks a 70 and 65 gal and im hooking them both up too a 55 gal sump Im using a dcp 10000 jebao return pump Im looking for design suggestions!! Some thing like this possibly? sock skimmer // refug/frag rack display// then return section i have 4' to work with any help would be appreciated

  • @edstud1
    @edstud1 Před 7 lety

    what kind of filter?

  • @fallen_ang3l106
    @fallen_ang3l106 Před 6 lety

    is there a link to buy sumps like that?

  • @roythompson2632
    @roythompson2632 Před 7 lety +2

    Hi, nice video!. A question, asked a thousand times before....Flow rate thru' the sump..3x, 5x, 10x tank volume? Depends on skimmer? Water movement in main tank...10x, 20x, 30x? Your thoughts would be appreciated.

    • @howardgilmour8464
      @howardgilmour8464 Před 6 lety +1

      Surprised nobody had a go at this one. Since they haven't, I'll try....
      As you intimate, there is no 'law' here. You can demonstrate that by asking... 'what's the best situation between these two extremes'?. A) 10* turnover where you have purely a mechanical medium or B) 1* turnover where you have mechanical, biological, chemical and skimming plus and addition pump for movement in the tank! For me personally, I'd take an average from experts featured here and with an emphasis of making sure the methods were solid too (skimming, biological, chemical and mechanical to name the main ones).
      Course it depends on what you're keeping (fish or inverts) plus other factors like husbandry. Why not come up with a list of variables and work out whether yours is a high, medium or low demand tank and work from there. You could take a low, medium or high average and be a bit better informed.

    • @dapali123
      @dapali123 Před 5 lety

      turnover 10x ? this is so 1950s when only way to make a flow in your tank was trough turnovers. Simple you need to break this in 2 . In the tank flow which depends on your stock and second the system flow which go trough your sump.
      Sump in fact is your life support, what that mean is your mechanical and especially biological filtration take place . For that contact time is needed. I would
      go ahead and say that it is somewhere between 3-5 times, depends on your stock
      and equipment you use.

  • @TripedalTroductions
    @TripedalTroductions Před 7 lety +1

    I like the Kerbal Space Program VAB music :)

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 7 lety

      I have heard someone say that before. I haven't played the game before though :/

    • @TripedalTroductions
      @TripedalTroductions Před 7 lety

      If you ever get time, I strongly recommend it. It's a lot of fun!

    • @chefdan87
      @chefdan87 Před 7 lety

      One of the best games ever made, i noticed the soundtrack in this video as well. Ive put more hours in that game than any of my other games, there is really a endless amount of things to do or try.

  • @jbliss2000007
    @jbliss2000007 Před 7 lety

    great video than, what setting are you using on your camera to get the actual colors of the corals and not the blue glow?

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 7 lety

      It's not so much the settings of the camera it is the camera itself. Professional cinema cameras capture more image information so they tend to handle goofed up lighting artifacts better than DSLR's. Still, I can tell a big difference shooting corals under LED vs T5. T5 gives a more true color compared to LED.

    • @jbliss2000007
      @jbliss2000007 Před 7 lety

      +Tidal Gardens Inc. You're about that, I'm actually switching back to t5's. I noticed better growth and took better pictures. thanks for the reply

    • @bestplans9051
      @bestplans9051 Před 6 lety

      jbliss, if you're using a DSLR you'll have to manually set your white balance using a white (not opaque) lid in the tank and under the water. Try about 3"-4" under the surface and take a picture of the lid and use that exposure as your white balance. Should work much better for you.

  • @NIKHILCHAUHAN-xv9ox
    @NIKHILCHAUHAN-xv9ox Před 5 lety

    Pls make video how to make u this sump step by step pls

  • @nicholasjohnson1295
    @nicholasjohnson1295 Před 5 lety

    thought i had ksp running had to check twice

  • @Inzam89
    @Inzam89 Před 7 lety

    Hello do you suggest good filtration for 265 gallon freshwater tank..?
    Im eagerly waiting for someone 1 adivices..
    Where i can get cheaper sump systems for 265 gallon tank.?
    Or where i can get the perfect engineering art of sumps to build in my country..

    • @zacharycoronado6749
      @zacharycoronado6749 Před 7 lety

      My recommendation is to get a used aquarium. Get the supplies to convert it to a sump.
      If not, then you can make sumps cheaply (but not very pretty), by getting a small rigid tub, like those used for small ponds.
      Just don't use storage bins

  • @YouLoveRyanSeacrest
    @YouLoveRyanSeacrest Před 7 lety +30

    Kerbal Space Program music??? (:

  • @xisotopex
    @xisotopex Před 7 měsíci

    uhhh what do you mean one of the tanks will overflow??? if the pump fails, wont the display tank just over flow until it drops below the level of the return over flow? so you could design your sump to hold that water without over flowing....? 😬

  • @Jucy_j
    @Jucy_j Před 7 lety +1

    Brah! bad ass videos and great advise but damn your voice and volume puts my ass to sleep haha "Clear Eyes Dry Eyes"

  • @stevelachappelle8571
    @stevelachappelle8571 Před 7 lety +1

    What if I wanted my refugium as a second tank to show?

    • @turbocpt1
      @turbocpt1 Před 3 lety +1

      Then have the main tank overflow into the refugium and refugium drain into the sump.

    • @Lisa-wc3vz
      @Lisa-wc3vz Před rokem

      @@turbocpt1 Yes, Lord.

    • @turbocpt1
      @turbocpt1 Před rokem +1

      @@Lisa-wc3vz idiots everywhere...

  • @amitji1136
    @amitji1136 Před 3 lety

    I have amarine tank fish tank only but I want to convert in reef setup but HOW ❓🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

  • @peter23081
    @peter23081 Před 7 lety

    Quite a supersump,but what about the pricetag on something like that without additional equipment......

    • @t.regnerus301
      @t.regnerus301 Před 7 lety

      If you have to ask you can't afford it.

    • @tidalgardens
      @tidalgardens  Před 7 lety

      I don't know how much this particular one cost, but custom acrylic sumps are almost always expensive if they use a nice thick acrylic for construction.

  • @wadleeri
    @wadleeri Před 7 lety

    do you have a link to that sump?

  • @freefreesetmefree2234
    @freefreesetmefree2234 Před 4 lety

    Iwaki Japan the best ever pump in the world. Work over 20 years. Purchased in HKong 1997

  • @upsidedahead
    @upsidedahead Před 5 lety

    Fell asleep holding the phone. His voice is like an opiate

  • @maca9417
    @maca9417 Před 7 lety +1

    Were do get a sump from in the uk

    • @tristanbeligan6242
      @tristanbeligan6242 Před 7 lety

      You can build one yourself using a regular glass tank, glass panels, glass cutter, and silicone. You can most likely find the glass panels, cutter, and silicone at your hardware store. Make sure the silicone is aquarium safe though.

    • @tristanbeligan6242
      @tristanbeligan6242 Před 7 lety

      You can sometimes find aquarium safe silicone at LFS

  • @allspice7208
    @allspice7208 Před 5 lety +1

    that information is packed with knowledge... or if i even make sense... meh

  • @averagegm
    @averagegm Před 4 lety

    What’s the name of that sump

  • @Goldwell.
    @Goldwell. Před 4 měsíci

    Why doesn't anyone explain how to connect all this correctly? There are no instructions and I don’t understand where to connect the pipes, how to connect them correctly, where and which pipe should be placed in which compartment. Where to put the skimmer? where is the media? where is the pump?

  • @elijahfaas
    @elijahfaas Před 7 lety

    +tidal gardens

  • @SpaghettiKillah
    @SpaghettiKillah Před 7 lety +1

    I'm looking at this on my iMac...next to it I have a 1 gallon glass-ball with a beta fish in it😂 somehow I feel I made the right choice

  • @garylion1123
    @garylion1123 Před 7 lety +3

    What is a sump?

    • @turtlemaster4515
      @turtlemaster4515 Před 6 lety +2

      a sump is a sump sir donald trump
      Lol i rhyme

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 Před 5 lety

      A section lower than the rest that fluid enters by gravity.
      A car engine has an oil sump so that there's a lowest-point to drain oil from.

  • @ldballoon4
    @ldballoon4 Před 7 lety +2

    Don't buy into prefab sumps, just use an empty aquarium. Done and cheap.

  • @NIKHILCHAUHAN-xv9ox
    @NIKHILCHAUHAN-xv9ox Před 5 lety

    Ya i all ready build this send post video ya any were to ready made pls send me libk

  • @tsurro8086
    @tsurro8086 Před 7 lety +5

    Those life reef sumps are outrageous in price, not sure if they are worth it!!

    • @jah651
      @jah651 Před 7 lety +4

      I just got mine, TOTALLY worth the cost! Don't forget Jeff's sump prices aren't JUST for the sump. They are complete systems including all the pumps, plumbing and they also come with the Skimmer as well. When you consider his products last 15+ years the cost is insignificant.

    • @wbowman1556
      @wbowman1556 Před 6 lety +2

      Building a sump is very simple. Either use glass or acrylic. Cost a FRACTION of the cost of the commercial systems.

    • @1992pattrow
      @1992pattrow Před 5 lety

      Building a sump like a Bashsea or life reef is extremely difficult. I would like to watch someone without proper glass/acrylic machines and tools to build a similar sump.

    • @gold3nrul311
      @gold3nrul311 Před 5 lety

      it all really comes down to "how much do you value your time?" sure they can be built, but some people have life, jobs etc and their time is way more valuable than building a sump. Other people enjoy the project and don't worry about spending time that might not be economical in the long run, for instance opportunity costs of all that time building it.
      @@1992pattrow

  • @NIKHILCHAUHAN-xv9ox
    @NIKHILCHAUHAN-xv9ox Před 5 lety

    Link send me

  • @AprendizAdulto
    @AprendizAdulto Před 7 lety +4

    I understand the benefits of sumps...but it sure does make it complicated and scary considering water is leaving the tank. If the water keeps leaving the tank and the return pump is broken...I hope in the future there will be a more minimalist approach. I think the sump aspect is what intimidates most people from pursuing reef tanks.

    • @Freemananana
      @Freemananana Před 7 lety +3

      Andreu Ahn Modern drains for sumps are full proof. No more faulty than a canister filter. Reefing is complicated for sure, but a sump doesn't have to be. I've used sumps on freshwater tanks for a few years now and I love them. The customization and sear volume of media and equipment not in the main tank is unmatched.

    • @AprendizAdulto
      @AprendizAdulto Před 7 lety

      Thanks Freemananananana. Why would you need a sump for freshwater tank? I dunno...just the idea of having water leave the tank in that much volume scares me. What species do you have? You still gaming?

    • @Freemananana
      @Freemananana Před 7 lety

      It's the same concept as a saltwater tank. It keeps all the equipment out of the tank. The only thing in my tank is a spray bar. I have three heaters in the sump along with spare media and CO2 equipment.
      I don't really do CZcams. It was a bored afternoon thing.

    • @dapali123
      @dapali123 Před 7 lety +6

      Andreu Ahn -...." water leaving the tank"... the water leaving the tank is the exact amount of water is pumped from the sump. If the pump stop working, so does the "water leaving the tank".

    • @alb9022
      @alb9022 Před 7 lety

      "full proof"

  • @Berbs73
    @Berbs73 Před 7 lety

    This guy sounds like Tom Green. lol

  • @bettyswallsack8118
    @bettyswallsack8118 Před 3 lety

    This video just called me poor

  • @derekpounds1522
    @derekpounds1522 Před 7 lety

    Kip from Napoleon dynamite.............

  • @thegolflife7565
    @thegolflife7565 Před 5 lety

    This is not a cheap sump.

  • @xaviervax
    @xaviervax Před 7 lety +2

    too complex

    • @bestplans9051
      @bestplans9051 Před 6 lety +1

      It's actually not Xavier. It seems like it because people are use to HOB and or canister filters which are pretty simple, put in a cartridge or media and plug it in, boom done.. This is essentially the same thing but with a much larger capacity AND you can control the flow rate. You can also add live rock to the sump, chaeto and actually use it as a refugium and a filter at at the same time.
      I felt the same way when I switched over and after finding out how easy it really is and how much better the filtration was, I'll never go back to HOB or especially canister filters.
      Part of the intimidation factor is the cost of the sumps which I agree is high but you can get very simple DIY kits to make your own. Also is plumbing and head pressure of the pumps which can be researched.
      I can only speak from what I experienced but I'll never go back to anything but a sump. Everyone thinks what they have is the best until they experience a problem that they'll never tell you about or blame the equipment but I can attest that sumps do deliver if you're willing to do the proper maintenance just like owning a car and expecting it to last 10-20 yrs or more.

  • @Meatbone1968
    @Meatbone1968 Před 7 lety

    Cool video but way out of my league.

  • @omniexistus
    @omniexistus Před 7 lety

    too fuckin complicated..damn my lil ol' brain hurts