WILL IT FIT? 11-speed cassette on an BUDGET 8-speed HUB?
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- This video is not a tutorial video, this is just me trying to show you guys what's possible.
and yes My New 11 Speed Cassette fits perfectly on my 8 speed shimano free hub
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Keep the experiment project going, bro. Clear vid as always, the narrative and simple stuff. . I am into motorbikes but you are kicking my young years back on. 5 stars from here!
I was really sceptical seeing him put on the cassette with the dork disc still on it. But he recovered from epic fail and voilà, it's gone... :D))))
Dude, so glad I found your channel. Your videos are awesome!
Thanks GoD
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Cool video. I just bought a 2020 pitch and I love it. Please keep the videos coming!
Bro Your Videos are so informative! You actually show us how to do the work! Also being that you do it with bare min tools that any average can buy is great! You encouraged me to do my own bike work!
I was screening at my screen when u where cleaning the dork disc, *TAKE IT OFF, TAKE IT OFFFF*
Snob. I'm a dork and proud
I said the same! 😂 please take it off!!!
@ It shows you're a noob
@ cus it will shatter and rider might not notice it being shattered and pieces in the trail and another rider can get a puncture by riding on top of the sharp plastic. I found a broken dork disk on a trail once and I put it in my backpack and threw it in the nearest garbage can
@@mtbboy1993
That's rare to happen, also if you have a good one like mine, its black and has more flexibility not like that cheap resin one, it gives my bike nice look, i think its benefits more than its disadvantages, just my opinion.
Good thing I saw this video! I'm using the same hub. It's a relief to know I don't have to buy a new set of hubs. Thanks man!
Awesome. Good to see you back at bike builds.
Very cool you vid just gave me more motivation to go this to my RockHopper✌🏻🌵
Love watching you work on this bike. Just got some WTB wheels on mine
Wow I just was getting ready to change mine and ran across your video. You saved me a lot of worries thanks so much for the great video
I was about to say remove the dorky disc 🤐🤫
wow erp non stop upgrades love it keep it comming erp
This is very surprising, and helpful. I also use the same hub and planning to upgrade on 11speed. Viola! Hello SLX 🤩
that is so very helpful. i just bought the same slx stuff for my gt, fingers crossed it fits
I had heard it should fit but it's great to see it happen. Removing the Dork disk made me so happy too.
I’m thinking of doing the same thing so did a CZcams search and your video came up. Awesome.
I just ordered the exact same set for my Giant Revel 0 (old drivetrain was a 3x8) supa cool man
Did this workout, though it has been a year since you posted.
I have one of those hubs, it got sent back within a month under warranty for a rebuild and re-grease as it was bone dry from factory. Its on a XC bike and I've bounced it round my local trials since October 2020 on a daily basis ever since. Its still alive.
Dude, thanks for the video. I have been wanting to do this to my Pitch. Now i know i can
Like to see the progress, some don't appreciate the lower end highs enough
Well done! Anything to avoid the rip off no-compatability thing that we all have to live with now.
You had me at "I brought a file just in case." I will also be doing this myself... Good to know there's a chance...
I can tell you it works but that's a 5month old comment so you already know :D
There is a mis-understanding as of which gear combinations will work. For mtb, an 8 speed through 11 speed Cassette will fit on the sam free hub body while a road free hub body is different between the 11 speed and 8-10 speed cassettes. A road 11 speed is wider than an mtb 11 speed
true - my older 8 speed road 700c wheel does not accept 11 speed cassette - too short
Thank you for taking the time and sharing this video. Stay safe healthy out there.
SLX came on my Nukeproof Scout! Love it, does everything I need it to!
im liking all the upgrades you post because those are exactly what i want to do with my ‘15 Rockhopper. Maybe in the future you do a complete strip down of a project bike. I’d like to see custom painting of the frame. Ingats!
agreed
This is going to be my next upgrade for my ‘12 Trek Marlin. I’ve actually tried to go 1x for quite some time but after doing more research I thought it’d be too expensive. This video really made me want to actually do it!!
The new shimano deore 1x12 is $300 for cranks, derailleur, cassette, and shifter. You just need to get the proper bottom bracket and chainring and you can run it on that bike
@@LoCoFab717 I'm about to buy Shimano Deore M6100 1x12, are you saying the rear cassette would fit a 8 cassette hub?
@@LoCoFab717 what do you mean the proper bottom bracket chainring? do we need to have a chain ring to be compatable for a 1x12?
Thanks for doing this. A local bike shop just told me i should invest in a new bike if i wanted to upgrade from 9 to 11 speed..
My youtube forgot to recommend you on my sub box. I like this series that you're doing coz i have the same bike as your ht and i see if parts would fit my bike without me havin to do it and waste my time. It's really helpful. Keep it up.
i kid you not this is exactly the video I was looking for today, and you just posted it. Thank you thank you thank you!!
My local bike shop said I can probably fit max 10-speed cassette on my 9-speed hub so I went ahead and bought a good condition 2nd hand Shimano XT derailleur & shifter. Should’ve done bit more research before because it seems I could’ve jumped straight to 11-speed. Well, at least I didn’t pay much for the XT 10-speed and 11-speed would’ve been more expensive anyway. Good video!
Nice one tol.
Will upgrade my 1x8 giant talon to with shimano hub sram nx 11 speed came off from my other bike that i will be upgrading to gx eagle with xd hub. Cool videos bro
This video make my day, thanks a lot
most centerlock hubs are pretty modern and will accept up to at least 11 speed.
1x11 Shimano SLX is a great groupset - I have it and it works amazing.
Exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks!
Woah! That's my hub! Awesome, i'll be able to upgrade to 1 by 10\11 in the future with no problem! Currently waiting for a 32t chainring to see if 1 by 8 is any good. Your videos are great! Keep up the good work!
If You have any good climbs you will probably struggle with 1x8 unless your a beast lol
@@barefootbob1269 sounds fair. I'm indeed struggling with some now, but it just feels like i'll be struggling on any gear, just for a little longer, due to lower speed. I've also recently discovered that there are some wider-range 8-speed cassetes on the market though. so i'm thinking of a little extension.
@@SolLignum Yes there are some options in that area. A note of caution is with that comes some weird gear spacing.For example on an 11-46 8 speed sprockets would be 11-13-16-22-28-34-40-46 which means a fairly dramatic change from one gear to the next. That same cassette in an 11 speed would have a better transition between gears my 11-46 runs 11-13-15-18-21-24-28-32-36=40-46 just gives you a tighter ratio. I am a big guy at 270 riding a fat bike and have some steep climbs here in the northeast and combo works great for me. I am running a 32t oval up front.
@@barefootbob1269 yeah, i've been considering the possibility of various shifting shennanigans as well, but hey, those are ditry cheap cassettes and even if this won't work well, i can always switch back to stock and just save for a proper 1 by conversion, so i think i might still try that some day. Will report my results :)
Cool...I just learned something new,thanks brotha
Yup! You dont need that dork disc, awesome it works smooth enjoy the 11s.
Great! I have the same problem, i will change my 8 speed to a 11 speed and now i know it works, thanks!
I watch this and gives so many ideas. i will by a PITCH MEN soon!!! thanks bro!!!
Awesome video thanks for sharing that!
But, you really need a lot more torque on the lock ring than that. The friction from sandwiching the cogs and spacers together helps distribute the load from pedaling and prevents those nasty dings on the hub body, or something like that.
Also "dork" disks are actually really good, especially if you swap wheels with frequency or might bang your derailleur when riding (say for cyclocross, etc). And that might explain why you still see them show up consistently on some higher end wheels. I didn't learn that the hard way, nah... RIP my rear tubular wheel spokes.
Dork disc are actually required by law, or maybe its a manufacturer standard. Its a safety thing so people who dont know to adjust their derailleur dont get a chain caught in the wheel.
And yeah he really NEEDS a LOT more torque on that lock ring!!
Thanks for this video idol it really helps me a lot.
Thank you man for the info I'm always wandering if it works on my bike incase if I switch to a different groupset coincidentally my bike is also a specialized pitch sport which is 8 speed so thaank so so muuch man!! Now i know it works!! God bless u man!!
Should’ve left the dork disc on. Extra style points for being rad and dorky! Great video Mate!
Yay no more dork disk.😂 I think I commented before complaining 😂
finally! a video that many of us can relate
tamang tama yan video mo at mag covert din ako ng 3x7 to 1x9 or 7 lang. Pashout out Gerald From Baliuag Bulacan
If you put that huge cassette on... which is way larger than the dork disc behind it, you have to use the XXL dork disc from Shimano. They are currently out of stock, but Shimano will fedex them to you as soon as they are available again. They also offer a special carbon super dork disc, for only U$ 149,- for those of you who want outstanding performance at low weight.
Got the same hub and was already planning to replace my groupset... well, it changed now 😉
boss pag ba 10 speed casette pde ba ang 9 to 12 speed hubs?
Nice video bro, tnx 4 sharing your experiment.
Cool upgrade, yeah I'd been wondering if an old 8/9 spd hub could support the newer cassettes. I think they add more gears by making the chain narrower, so that's probably why it's compatible.
Yep. That's exactly how it's done. A 7 speed chain is 7mm wide at the pins, a 12spd chain is about 5.1mm wide at the pin. But, the plates are pretty much the same thickness which is where the confusion and up until recently skepticism about narrower chains came from. For a fair while people were worried a narrower 12spd chain would be weaker. While they aren't as tough they're still solid and despite my best efforts, still haven't snapped one.
nice work !
You might have been able to even keep the old derailleur since the shift lever is what actually controls how much cable is taken in or let out with each shift. You just have to adjust the high and low set screws on the derailleur assuming it's a compatible shimano.
Can someone verify?
This is only true if you're using a friction style shift mechanism. The shift spacing for 8,9,10 ect are all slightly different. Yes you can extend the travel of your derailleur, but you won't have smooth shifts into every gear using the wrong shifter.
@@derrickquintal thanks
The same surprise i got today, cause i didn't know that i can install 10 speed on my 8 speed (pre installed) cassette, got in the mechanic store and installed it
Man I was looking for this video. I have 8 speed cassette cogs on my fat bike. Maybe it will work the same. Thanks bro
Man thats awesome...I also have an SPECIALIZED FSR stump jumper fully with an 3*9 drivetrain....would it be possible to do such conversion as you did??
Love how you upgrade your bike
Coo li got the same hub going to try it too ! top stuff m8 !
Thanks for putting the answer in the description so I didn't have to watch the video 😂
In all seriousness though, you helped me out a lot, cheers mate!
Love it!!
Kudos‼ keep it up. More reviews.
Got a SRAM 12s NX 11-50 on my old 8 speed shimano hub.
Working like a charm
Just finished my build on this bike. Hoping to see how you do yours
Was going to go 1x and upgrade my 9 speed rear to 10, but think i might try 11 speed. Worth checking out at least.
I have this exact same bike except mine is the sport version now I know that it sure is possible to do a 1x11 I guess that my nest upgrade
Nice video. Im on my way to fit the 11 cassette to 9/10speed hub.
If it's of any help, the Shimano HG Spline driver is a standardised part. Cassettes are designed to fit it and that is why 6/7/8 speed chains are about 7mm wide at the pin but 12 speed chains are about 5.1mm at the pin. The Cassettes are all the same thickness, the rings are slimmer and tighter spaced to allow for more speeds in the same space.
Campagnolo have started to produce a 13 speed for roadies. That set up uses a 4.9mm chain to further allow the cassette to fit within a standardised hub space.
Shimano micro-spline and SRAM XD drivers are now complicating the market but they still hold the same cassette width, they just make the driver diameter smaller to accommodate a 10t ring, HG spline can only fit an 11t at the smallest.
If you're upgrading an older bike the real hang up will likely be the Bottom Bracket. Chuck that square taper, Octalink of ISIS spline in the bin, we're now in the world of SRAM DUB, 24mm and 30mm two-piece cranksets. This is the area which can mess up would be 1x newcomers as a 2x or 3x crankset will not give a good chainline and 10, 11 and 12 speed really need a narrow-wide chainring to work properly.
My personal recommendation is pricey but worthwhile for ease and quality. Buy a SRAM NX Eagle 11-50t cassette for about $100 then fork out a further $300 or so for the SRAM GX Eagle groupset. You'll get the entire 12 speed drivechain in one easy go plus it uses the DUB Bottom Bracket system. This is great if you have an older BB shell which may not fit some of the newer cranks too well. If you can get an XD driver for your hub, do so and omit the NX cassette, the 10-50t GX cassette gives you a better range however requires the previously mentioned driver.
Would and 11 speed fit on a 2017 diamondback recoil
@@toothlessboss if it's going on a HG spline then it should do. Just make sure the hub body and cassette use the same spline interface. Both SRAM and Shimano recently(ish) made new standard bodies for their 12 speed and top-end kit. Most cassettes are still HG though.
The one thing to look out for is a spacer that some freehubs have. It's between the cassette and hubshell on the freehub body and it's just there to ensure limited range cassettes (often 9 speed or less) are indexed for the best chainline. That needs to come off for an 11spd.
@@toothlessboss if it's any further help, my first 12 speed was fitted to a 2005 Marin East Peak, this stuff is "backward compatible" so-to-speak.
@@andrewince8824 thank you so much
@@toothlessboss you're welcome, I'm glad I can help.
Fantastic, thank you...
Good job Erp.
Nice one idol,,,
Ridesafe!
Nice....as long as it fits..it will work . Now I can upgrade my non-series shimano 9-speed to an 11 speed. Tnx.
Great video. Will my Specialized Roll Elite 8 speed be able to be upgraded in the same way?
Usefull ^^ Thanks you!!^^
Congratulations nice that it fitted perfectly but it makes me wonder if a 12r would also fit anyways I wish it was a 12r that just almost fitted perfectly so you would have to use the file you were planning on for just a minute or two,,, anyways very good that it came on without a problem,,,(i use the nx11speed)
Nice dude
Nice bro!!
Removing the dork disk is so satisfying
Im doing more or less same upgrading as u but on cube analog mate , still waiting for my parts to arrive from germany
Wow those pizza 🍕 gears look great ,I love the big dish ✌💯
great video, thanks. i have 1 question though. how long is your freehub?
finally i found your channel 🤘
Will it fit my Specialized Pitch 2015 without having to change the hub? Love your channel m8!
Nice one😮👍👍👍
Thanks Stay Safe MC Cycles, From Senior Citizen 66 years old # Pandemic New Biker Batangas city Philippines.
nice boy! the tx505 is a tourney class freehub!!
You've given me hope! Is that the SLX M7000? I just ordered that set and hope to install on 8 speed Specialized 2006 Cross Roads Sport. The hub on the bike now is 8 speed FH-RM30 with a Shimano CS-HG30i cassette. I hope I have the same luck. If you have any tips or knowledge let me know. Thanks for the vid
Thank you for sharing such idea.more power.Godbless
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Lupet talga ni idowL, waiting nko maging available sa area nmin ung deore m5100 para goodbye 1x8 nko haha
Just an FYI for anyone reading, the Shimano HG hub, usually known as the "8-10 speed hub" (as you see on the bike in this video) will normally fit any mountain bike cassette 8-12 speed that is made for this standard of hub. Some earlier versions of the hub won't fit 10 speed+, but that's from the late 90s, early 2000s. Now, the catch is that this hub will not work with standard 11 speed road cassettes. They need the specific 11 speed Shimano HG hub with the extra space to fit. Since I'm already on this tangent, there are 11 speed road cassettes that will fit the mountain bike sized HG hub, but they have to list that they are "8-10 speed hub" compatible in the specifications.
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nicE..nxt upgrade brakeset😉
Check out the 1-13 S-Ride, it'll work on a regular HG hub
270 for complete kit, minus crank/chaining
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Really Surprised It Fit!
nice sir!
Its alive!!!! Mabuhay kang cassette ka!!!!
Hahahahaah
Nice video erp
You can install SRAM SX for 12 speed upgrade, works with shimano free hubs.
Hi Mark! How’s this set up working out so far? I have the same exact bike and it’s due for this kind of upgrade.😊