64mm Turbine Wheel and 12cm Exhaust Housing | 1st Gen Cummins
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2021
- Today I show you how I upgrade my turbo once again, this time to a 76x64mm 10 blade turbine wheel with a wastegated 12cm hx35 style exhaust housing. Now with this upgrade, my current turbo is 62/64/12 wastegated. I am very pleased with how this exhaust wheel and housing increased the spool for my 5 speed truck and I absolutely love the whistle that this 10 blade turbine wheel makes compared to the stock turbine wheel. I highly recommend this upgrade to your stock h1c. I may upgrade the wastegate that came with this kit as I discovered it opens up around 15psi and I'd like it to open up around 25psi. Stay tuned for more!
Tyler,
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Man that thing sounds amazing
I just did this to mine and it sounds a hell of a lot better.
I think this 10 blade turbine wheel sounds awesome!
16:37 Pretty sure the guy in the High Boy started crying.
Would have been sweet if it was 12 valve swapped.
Learn some pretty good stuff off of you there about the turbine wheel getting the housing machined out anyhow also I was impressed with your test drive you weren’t doing 90 mile an hour down public street you know with lots of people around that’s one of the things I don’t like about some of these guys you know they get out there and one 7580 in a 35 zone no not good anyhow keep up the good work this is six in a row Jim I am from Kennerdell Pennsylvania
Great info Tyler. When I get closer to getting the my motor back in the chassis. I could really use your input on this aspect of my build. If you don't mind me pestering you for help. I would appreciate it. Don't want to be too slow at the #nonamenationals if you know what I mean thanks 👍
Of course! I'll only be able to speak to my experience with what I've installed but I'll let you know my opinion anyways. Cheers.
@@OvensGarage Thats all I ask. You just understand it better than I do. Thanks
I hope you do a towing update and list the mods/fueling you’re using. I’m looking to make a few Frankenstein holsets myself just to see what the limits are on my 95 12v stock setup
I'll have to make another update video. I'm thinking about doing similar mods to my other truck but might go a different route haven't decided yet.
I'm right there with ya. I've still got a stock HX35 on my 96 and she's way over fueled. I need more air but don't want to spend a lot. Thinking of throwing a 60mm housing/wheel on it but people say that won't be enough. For a 62mm I have to machine it for the compressor wheel to fit
@@TAShannon1 if you can find a roached out hx40…no machining required…just swap some parts around…otherwise you’ll still need to machine out your hx35 for a 60mm compressor
@bugn4life hey man. So I went with a 62mm wheel and a 74x64mm turbine 10 blade. I had to get my compressor housing, bearing housing and turbine housing machined for fitment. I also rebuilt the turbo of course. I am in it a little over $400.
It's perfect. Exactly what I was looking for. Apparently it's a good 475-500hp combo. I have no idea where I'm at. I'm guessing 450-475 now. The truck was already fun and peppy but now it is an absolute menace. The 4k springs really get utilized now that I have the top end airflow. Spool up is still very quick. Not as quick as before but really close. Egt's are down 180 degrees. The sound is a lot different too. I liked the sound of the turbo before honestly. Because it was smaller you got more of that de-spool sound when you let off the throttle to shift sounds just like a big rig.
Now it sounds like a jet airliner. Still sounds cool just a different cool
@@TAShannon1 you running an auto or manual trans? Gearing and tire size? Autos only need to spool the turbo once…lol
I need to learn more about turbos and all the measurements and stuff. That is foreign territory for me. How does this setup compare to a stock hx35?
Yeah haha, sometimes the measurements are confusing especially because aftermarket companies don't always label the same. I like to go by reading the inducer/exducer/exhaust housing size in cm. The stock h1c is 54/60/18 or 21 depending on year of truck and the hx35 I believe is a 56/60/12 wastegated. The he351 is 60/58/9 with internal wastegate.The smaller exhaust housing helps with the spool speed. Bigger wheel sizes flow more. So the setup I have now is a 62/64/12 which is bigger than the stock h1c, hx35, and he351. It drives and sounds AWESOME, not going to lie. I just need to tune up my pump a bit better now. I have too much fuel under throttle and at zero boost.
I'm in process of getting an he351cw. From what I've read it is a good match for a first gen ve pump. Perhaps a turbine wheel upgrade to the he351 to a 64mm hx40 super 10blade turbine at some point.
@@davidcole3927 That would probably work very well with the HE351.
Hi Tim, Better check out Savage Fabrication's Utube channel. Bradley explains everything you want to know, you just have to have the time to watch and listen. I would not let Austin from Turbolabs of America work on my wheel barrow, let alone buy a Turbo from him.
@@franklogan494 Did you have a bad experience with them?
Hey chief. In your honest opinion do you think both compressor and turbine wheels can be replaced while the turbo is on the truck?
Compressor wheel is possible to do on the truck but not the turbine wheel since the exhaust housing has to come off the turbo has to come out anyways. It's easier just to take it off the truck.
@@OvensGarage thank you!
Not sure I want to changing fuelling or anything; how would cold air and 4” W/ exhaust change sound & performance ? Any other recommendations?
intake & exhaust is a great starting point it'll allow the turbo to breath better. I would start with intake & exhaust, then start doing turbo mods if you want, then intercooler.
@@OvensGarage great! Thanks for the response. I’ve got a 92 stock and was wondering if there’s any preventative maintenance or things to check. I’ve already got the kdp fix lined up
@@amabilisbaca4842 Oh I thought you were just referring to performance mods. In terms of maintenance, do all the fluids and filters. I put an aux in-line fuel filter and I put in an amsoil bypass oil filter as well in my truck. KDP, overfill the getrag a quart, keep your revs over 1000 if you have the getrag, and don't shift it hard.
@@OvensGarage I was asking about both. Fluids, filters, change filter setups, and trans fluids. That’s a bunch. I’ll be watching your videos as I learn more. Your truck sounds great
I have a cuestion if anybody may know the answer i will apreciate it. I have an original HX35W, with the original exuahst turbine,12 blade, if i want to install a 10 blade turbine do i have to machine the exuasht housing or is there a direct replacement available. ?
Not sure of the factory specs on an hx35 but I suspect they will be different unless you order a wheel with the same specs as the exhaust housing.
I put a 70x64 ten blade in my hx35 and I just had them turn the exhaust house to 65mm and match he radius it had. It has worked well for me
Is the video of it at the beginning revving with the 64mm turbine wheel?
Yes
is this setup applicable to my 1990 non-intercooled setup? it is still stock atm.
Yes you could rebuild your turbo and use this as part of it. Your truck comes with an H1C turbo.
I want your turbo! I did a Stainless Diesel 5 blade compressor wheel swap in my 2021 6.7 Cummins. I also did a 10 blade turbine swap. Both wheels are direct bolt ons for your stock turbo and my turbo sounds nothing like yours. Frustrating because I’ve been after your sound in my stock turbo for a while with no luck. I thought for sure the 10 blade would make mine sound like a PowerStroke turbo from another video I found but no luck.
Haha, thanks. Keep in mind my exhaust setup may also play a role in the turbo sound. I have a straight through muffler and there is also a in-line FTE resonator. I bet those 2021 trucks have quite a bit on their exhausts for emissions. Have you deleted them?
@@OvensGarage yea buddy! Just deleted my ‘21. 5” straight pipe. Was hoping the increased flow would improve the sound but nope! I’m guessing it’s because it’s a VGT turbo. Duramax’s and Powerstroke’s also run VGT’s and with 10 blade mod’s their turbo’s scream! 🤷🏻♂️
I also have a AFE open air intake.
I’m just at a loss 🤔
@@bignick3303 Since I did my upgrades individually I could distinctly tell which made the biggest difference. The compressor wheel upgrade made more of a wooshing sound at the intake and the exhaust turbine wheel made a huge difference in terms of the whistle. Must be the designs of the exhaust wheels themselves that make the sound differences.
@@bignick3303 Get a second gen style center dump exhaust manifold and a standard fixed geometry exhaust housing turbo and it will sound right. The Garret turbos the power strokes and Duramax's have use a much different mechanism to alter the size of the exhaust housing, so I don't think you will ever get your holset turbo to mimic that sound. If you really want to, you can make the Garrett turbo work but it is going to cost you. The biggest things are exhaust housing flange on the manifold side will need to be converted and you will need a potentiometer to control vein position as well as other smaller things. Brandon Fleece from Fleece performance has a really old video of a common rail 5.9 with a Garrett VGT, he holds it at a constant rpm and he can manually open and close the veins and you can hear the turbo speed up and slow down.
I just put stainless diesels 63/64 hx35 5 blade and 10 blade on my 12v and that thing screams
You need to upgrade your manifold my friend!
One thing at a time!
@@OvensGarage For sure, I have basically the same set up, the GDS turbine housing and wheel is over $400 as well as that manifold depending on which brand you go for. Waiting on myself to pull the trigger on one of those. One thing at a time,
Boost number comparison? Nope. EGT Comparison? Nope. Less lag? Who knows? 5 minutes of watching him up shift and downshift with no commentary? YES!!!!! 5 boring minutes of nothing. Will he raise the boost in a follow up video? Who cares, not me!⬇