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First it’s “that was my first sexual experience and he ruined it for me” then it’s “ALL of my bad sexual experiences have made me ACE.” So George wasn’t your first sexual experience? Okay Ms. Inconsistencies.
@@dartsporg457 definitely, if you only have bad sexual experiences, you can’t come to a conclusion that you’re asexual without experiencing the good aspect of it. also, considering she was 18 when it happened, she possibly may not have ever experienced anything sexual or intimate until then. so she still can’t make that decision when she is still quite young.
Exactly. I’m a male who was a victim of SA when I was younger. Took me years to even tell my parents. Couldn’t look them in the eyes. Never felt so ashamed and disgusted in myself never told anyone since. Not a single friend or loved one knows about it.
I just feel bad for George. Took the dude an hour to make the first move with something as light as tickling. Hes clearly already shy and sensitive and now it’ll be way worse
I've always wondered if these ppl who get falsely accused get disgusted with themselves and then if it gets difficult for them to get in a sexual and intimate contact. Like yk it doesn't just ruin their career but also the way they see themselves and how much it fucks them up mentally.
@@Ananxiety Of course. It's an animal instinct. If you get negative expirience from doing something, you would less likely want to do that again. If you get shamed for something, you'll be anxious about it. A lot of mental problems form like this.
Fr. She says "he's so much more powerful and bigger than me I'm scareddd🥺" when broski is built like a stick😂😂 poor guy, I'm glad ppl are finally starting to figure this out. I knew she was a bull shitting a hole the moment her pathetic little allegation came out. Awful fake crier🤗
I wonder if he could sue her for defamation. he definitely has money, and def lost some bc of her. would probably stop so many random Twitter allegations from popping up.
as an ace as well i was genuinely so mad when she said that like... she's made a horrible image for the ace community and isn't being ace a spectrum?? being ace does not mean u don't like intimacy like oh my GODDD 😭😭 and ace people can choose to consent / not consent just like any other allo person could,, she weaponized asexuality so hard
@@Mininaterras an indian, it’s true. i’m so glad i moved away. I remember when i was a kid (10 yrs) and i went a bit farther than my parents, a man approached me with malicious intent and i ran away like never before and left as quickly as possible.
Facts. She uses the excuse of "remembering" her "assault," but she had a whole Shakespearean play written out. She had to remember wrongly like 100+ times then ONLY remember what actually happened when everyone that was there said she was lying.
5:50 as a man who was groped by a woman, its not as easy as you think to "just say no". I think this girl is full of it tbh but its completely valid for people to not be sure what to do during a sexual assault until after it happens. Its like if someone robbed you in daylight, maybe your first reaction is to chase them down, maybe you stand there thinking its a prank, maybe you're just completely shocked and do nothing. There are so many ways you can react and you're not really make a coherent decision in the moment.
It happened to me while I was taking a vape break at work, a guy put his arm around me and I froze, he then proceeded to feel me up and again I froze, I couldn’t move. It’s our flight, fight or freeze response, it’s all well saying I would do this or do that if that happened to me, you don’t know how u will react until it happens. Her story is BS though, it’s a total different situation to ours, her saying that she’s been SA’d when she clearly hasn’t, just invalidates true victims, it’s no wonder some victims don’t come forward. I was date r when I was 20 and it took me 13 years to tell someone. Sorry that happened to you and I hope ur doing well
Saying no for her isn't the same. This scenario played out through an entire hour. She also left the scene multiple times and came back. Here's a recap: She's supposedly being assaulted even tho they've been playing with each other, cuddling with each other, and tickling each other for an hour straight. Anyways, he tickles her and at worst puts a hand on her waist, while they are ALREADY touching (Cuddling doesn't mean they are just sitting next to each other, it's pretty intimate). She is laughing and not caring. "BuT SHE DIDNT CONSENT!!!" Ok? If she felt uncomfortable, maybe the several times she got up to drink more alc or to go to the bathroom would have given her an opportunity to leave him. But no, she sits right back and continues where she left off. "She's still a victim, Silence is not consent!" At what point is consent still required? You've been intimate for an hour, touching each other for an hour. Smiling, laughing at each other. Playing games. But disregard all this. Forget it. If you were being abused, why wouldn't you leave with your friends when they leave? Why would you stay there? You're not in fight flight freeze because you're not 'flighting' or 'freezing' You're getting up only to come back and cuddle with him. But ok, she supposedly got abused that night... SO THEN WHY DO YOU INITIATE A TEXT WITH YOUR ABUSER THE DAY AFTER THE INCIDENT? Why DO YOU START FLIRTING WITH YOUR ABUSER? FOR WHAT REASON??? And she flirts with him back n forth for a month until he ghosts her / rejects her... To which the story turns from awkward flirting between the two -> abuse
@@xj0469clank In her case it applies though. I think he's pointing out how she had a whole hour, and several opportunities to leave or say no. She also chose to flirt with him the day after. I (hopefully) don't think he's generalizing every situation. But in this situation it applies.
@@midas-cars Sorry what, it applies? Says who? This commentary channel? You? George? So first thing, they were cuddling for an hour but the touching wasn't happening the whole time. And even so, I think it would be WORSE if it happened over the course of an hour, it'd be like being surrounded by people while you're being touched and nobody's coming to help you. I would be highly disencouraged from speaking up if people were ignoring my suffering for an hour straight. I don't think it's fair to say that she could've said no at any point in that party because we don't know what she's going through. This is also a public setting, so telling him to stop would also make people aware that you were being touched sexually in public, so it's probably embarrasing for her. Even your own comments seems to imply there's more nuance than "this applies" or "this doesn't apply". Also, "she also chose to flirt with him the day after" is coming from George's account of the situation, not her own account of the situation, so she could've just not flirted with him or he could've misinterpreted their banter for flirting. Even if you still choose to believe George, look up hypersexualization as a response to sexual trauma (because I'm not qualified to speak on that subject.)
As an ACTUAL SA victim who has multiple friends who are also SA victims, nobody will ever yell that they are a victim. They won't go and yell at people for saying it wasn't sexual assault. She seems to have a lot of joy when telling people about her experience. Being SA'd is shameful and scary. Telling people is even worse. When I told my mom it took me more then an hour to tell her that someone touched me. That's literally all I said and it took me an hour because I kept bursting into tears, I couldn't breathe, and I was having a panic attack. STFU with the pretty crying. Everyone knows that a load of shit.
@@ChaosZTC Aww thank you love. It happened a long time ago, the only problem I have now is not being able to put up with people's bs about this kind of thing.
@@simpforsupersoldiers No problem 🥺 I understand, SA is definitely not something people should joke about. I have a friend who experienced SA and I could tell the trauma is really painful from her perspective.
I"m sorry you had to go through that and I hope you're doing better. This kind of stuff is annoying because real victims are already going through trauma and don't get believed, and for someone like this to come in and treat it like its a good thing is just sickening. People need to be held accountable for false allegations because this happens way too much and there's very little consequences.
She said that George was her "first sexual experience" but then says she doesn't like sexual stuff bc of bad experiences in the past?? Nothing she says makes sense
STEP 1.) Find popular male STEP 2.) Be intimate with them STEP 3.) Claim SA and get popularity to start your own online following/get simp support and money.
So a woman can give consent in the moment, (apparently she didn't EVER hint that she didn't want him to touch her) then regret it later in life and all of a sudden the part changes from consent to SA? Man I love my male priviledge. Really great deal us men got
As a victim of SA myself this is just disgusting. She keeps smiling like “omg I ruining this man’s career” this is absolutely disgusting. Because of her real victims like myself never get believed. I never have put online exposing my abuser as I feel as though if it comes to light no one will believe me just because of people like her faking being a victim online. I am absolutely repulsed and disgusted by her.
My mom I think she was sexually assaulted, a man she saw as her uncle tried to kiss her when I would guess she was maybe 16 - 20, and the man 30 - 35 (just guesses) but when she told her mom, her mom didn't care, it's so horrible how so many victims are seen or heard. But then we have people who lie about what happened to them. Or just giggle and laugh about it and people care about the ones who didn't suffer but not the ones who did
"I never have put online exposing my abuser as I feel as though if it comes to light no one will believe me" you should feel you should takie it to the police or other authorize law enforcement agency, not to twitter/tiktok
@@chunkyboy9266 fact, I can't even say something about another woman as a woman without fear of being labeled one anymore. Lucky nobody in my comments is brain dead 💀
this video is perfect. i’ve never had a man ask for consent because in the moment, our behavior is very mutual and we’ve both been into it. chronically online people thinking you need to ask for consent in every circumstance is going to be the downfall of our society
Its never really occurred to me to ask for consent in case I screw up the vibe of what is blatently obviously going on. It seems like a really childish and stupid thing to do, tbh. If I did ask, I'd more than likely be making the girl think there's something wrong with them and it would be an all-round fail.
I’ve experienced grooming, SA ect. And when I’ve told my story I’ve randomly smiled or “laughed”, but only quickly. Found out it’s cause I dissociate when telling the stories and it’s like I’m reading out of a book and not telling my actual experiences. Or when I get angry/find stuff ridiculous. But I’ve NEVER myself nor seen someone tell their story smiling and laughing this much…
brief smiling and awkward laughs as a coping mechanism make sense, I know many people including myself that do that. the amount she smiles and laughs is way more than a coping mechanism would be
I was going to comment this too. Laughing during a story doesn’t immediately discredit the story however I agree it’s definitely weird how continuously she does it. I’m sorry you had to go through that, and I truly hope things get better for you ❤
It just makes it even more evil that she would gladly ruin someones life without a care in the world, just to boost her fame that will last no longer than a couple months and not benefit her in the future at all. those brain dead nonsensical twitter idiots fed into her narcissism. I want to know how she felt doing it. Gross, heartless woman
i spoke with my friend, victim of serious SA from someone who should her most important protector as parent. She was smiling while telling it, but neiteher her voice nor ESPECIALLY EYES, were showing any positive emotion. Her eyes expressionlessness and botomless void make me shiver even now when i am recalling it. That tryhard that went too far with her story, doesnt show neither of these. These are not fake awkward smiles of dissociation.
If he isn't going to court over this then that means he knows he did something wrong and by trying to do a defamation he would end up either losing or looking even guiltier
@@sarahtelles1931not when you consider 1. the cost and 2. The public response. Dumbasses online are going to pull the “white man using money” narrative to villainize him more.
@@sarahtelles1931she's not that big content creator. Suing her would cost a lot of time, mental health and money that he would not even see because she doesn't even have it. The girl is just a liar and everybody see the same, maybe he will just laugh and move on.
She basically saying “I’m 18 and 5 months old treat me like a child” I was SA in 4th grade and I wasn’t laughing and smiling like she is. I had to go to the mental hospital because I was a danger to myself due to the trauma. So this girl obviously doesn’t know what SA is and the effects of the trauma of it. Just cancel this woman already!
I know someone who is a SA survivor who is 37 and after it happened she still cries after 15 years, this makes me so fucking pissed when someone lies about it. Also if you do say you are a SA victim it would be logical to go to the police because if you say it online there is a strong chance cops may not take the case. THIS IS SO FUCKING ANNOYING THAT SOMEONE LIE ABOUT THIS! Also I am Christian but I’m a little rusty on the Bible but isn’t it a sin to lie about this stuff. Anyone that is a SA victim I pray for you and hope your life gets better.
"I'm not gonna apologize" when George kept apologizing for showing proof, for being right, for having a proper response,, 😭😭. woman was smiling so much while talking and the over dramatization of her wording is insane. + when she kept adding sht to her story just shows shes starting to run out of reasons
If another woman told me that some man did something to her; my question would be why she did not do something to him herself? Why try to get other people to do something on your behalf instead of acting yourself? If it were me, I would track down and eliminate my abuser myself; I would not want peoples sympathy I would want revenge myself. The fact that these women are unwilling to act independent of someone elses intervention tells me that they are liars. Furthermore, I will promise you that if she had to pay money to pursue charges that she would not pursue charges; make them put their money where their mouth is. If they are unwilling to pay to pursue the issue and will not act on their own I promise you it didn't happen. Men, please stop indulging women so much. Those women take it as a given that men will support them and act on their behalf; so stop. Just stop. Leave them to fend for themselves and I can promise you these women will either improve or will perish; either way the world will improve for it. You dont need these lame b---s in your life.
George didn't apologize for showing proof, and his apology definitely does not help his case that he apologized, it means he is conceding some amount of truth in her statements. George did show proof for a lot of things, but mostly things that didn't matter so much, and some were also debunked in Caiti's second stream (Such as the 21+ bracelet, and Caiti's involvements in the group chats) To be clear, the above inconsitencies don't matter to the allegation AT ALL to me. "when she kept adding sht" is so weird to me. You do realize one of the things that wasn't in the original story was George's name, right? You seem to be misunderstanding the intent of her first statement as the intent was not to cancel GeorgeNotFound, but rather share her own experiences and raise awareness about sex crimes in MCYT circles. From this perspective, saying you were groped is a potentially triggering detail that also is embarrasing to publicly announce. She came out with those details after the fact because George obviously was vague about it too and now that she had eyes on her, she wanted him to be held accountable for it. (Or at least, these are the reasons I believe she did this, but point being, I don't think she was adding details, moreso that she was being intentionally vague to protect herself and to not trigger people.) "She's starting to run out of reasons" bro she doesn't owe the internet her story and she definitely does not need to explain her reasoning for sharing the allegations.
@@endieend129 None of what you're saying makes any sense. She opened up with an online video about someone and used details that only applied to one person. That person was under the impression that he had done nothing before the allegations and only found out about it after the stream aired since the details and comments described the night they were together. An allegation is a very serious thing so if she makes the claim, she needs proof and to not get details wrong, so what you said above actually matters a lot. George didn't show a lot of nothing burgers, some of the proof used was falsified and left many details incredibly general and it made Caiti look really bad her second stream didn't help her as George's big thing that got debunked minor comparatively to the inconsistencies of Caiti. I'm still waiting for all the details before I make a judgment call but from what it seems right here, Caiti doesn't look good. The Omission of cuddling, which I personally don't believe is inherently sexual doesn't look good along with many other factors left out or disproven at this point. I don't mind showing support to someone who's struggling and talking about something incredibly hard and personal but when it's something that's absolutely life-altering and being brought forward onto the internet to be viewed by their peers or a bunch of viewers, inconsistencies matter a lot as it would in any legal proceeding. Most of the internet didn't turn on Caiti because they liked George or disliked Caiti inherently, it was after the multiple streams, messages, and other comments rubbed people the wrong way as people take S.A. very seriously and are holding it at a level of gravitas that it requires. This isn't to say you're wrong as we don't have all the details, she very well might be telling the truth or believes she's telling the truth. Just more-so saying that in these cases she is obligated to talk about this even if she's uncomfortable since she brought this into an allegation online and it's not something you can claim and leave open as that would be incredibly irresponsible and more damaging than not. These claims need to be backed up if she wants to raise awareness otherwise it's bad optics and she'll have people calling her a liar and making things harder on other S.A. victims who'll have a harder time in the future with this type of thing. Feel free to disagree as I'm curious why you hold some of these positions.
fr she could have apologized for her "mixing up the wording" such as the 'freshly eighteen' and 'freshly out of high school' mix-up. even if she "didn't mean to", she did say them, and she would need to apologize for being accidentally being misleading
For what money? She can just lie and he will have to pay tens of thousands just to maybe bring her to court. Its really time consuming and shes already shown to literally everyone thats shes lying. The only people who believe her are her friends and people who just hate the dude just cause.
For the most part, women get more say in court (e.g. a woman could just lie about s/a in court and put a man in jail) so I don't think that would work out that well. Even if it would, it's not really worth the risk.
The scary thing is that if this girl was a little smarter and said a consistent solid story, she would've been able to easily destroy george's career off of nothing.
Her face throughout the entire video is a perfect example of Dupers Delight. This is a feeling people get when they successfully get away with cheating or lying. Signs of Dupers Delight include inappropriate smiling, crinkling of the eyes, and biting of the lip, all of which she does throughout the stream. She KNOWS she’s going to win everyone over again and she could not be happier.
um? even if he did grab her tits, they were cuddling for hours, they were drunk together..... consent is rarely a verbal "yes you can grab my tits", if you were acting like that with him how was he supposed to know your uncomfortable? as an actual victim of SA, this is so insulting. just because she regrets it, doesnt mean she needs to find someone to blame. i had basically the exact same thing happen to me as her, drinking with some guys and one touched me like that after a while of us being flirty. while i was drunk and accidentally sent him the wrong signals, he had no bad intentions and it was just a touch. not every situation your uncomfortable in has to be someone elses fault. shes making a joke out of actual victims.
i cant even speak about my actual sexual assault without having a panic attack. ive gone through so much healing that ive had to do myself. the ptsd is the loneliest thing in the world. i could never just go on livestream in front of so many people perfectly fine and talk about it, all energetic and fine.
I'm a victim of CSA(I was eleven). She's kinda pissing me off right now because 1. You were eighteen (Counter Argument: you were drunk, which is in fact wrong to take advantage of) 2. I feel like this could've easily been handled by authorities, like- what is us, a bunch of already mentally ill teenagers and preteens going to do for you? Hardly any of us are adults, and I think you already know that! and 3. It honestly feels like she's just doing this to drive away from the fact that her friends were irresponsible with her. They shouldn't have let her do that, and what both SHE and HER FRIENDS did with drinking is illegal in the US. I'm surprised she hasn't been charged with that (not that I'm wishing that upon her.) And one thing I want to clarify to people in the comments saying "she looks too happy for a SA victim" yeah, well, the other day, I was explaining to one of my friends as vividly as I could the CSA incident because I've never told ANYONE my side of the story, and have been victim blamed to this day over it, and when I did, I felt a rollercoaster of emotions, swinging from on the verge of tears and choking on laughter because it's a coping mechanism. She wrote that script, read from it, and it's entirely deliberate with what the wording she used was. I'm not going to attack her directly and say she just wants to ruin his career, but I genuinely think that her friends (which have been claimed to not like him many MANY times) are trying to do it THROUGH her. Whether it was by standing off to the side and letting her be attacked by him (if that's how it was), building up a story a setting them up so he seems like a predator because of her age in comparison to the group, writing the script for her or helping her with it, all whilst taking advantage of the fact that she's female, young, and a content creator. And that's what pisses me off the most. edit: the fact she has the sub goal in the top left corner along with the followers goal- IT CHANGES. EVERY. GOD. DAMN. STREAM. AND SHE'S DOING IT ON PURPOSE. LIKE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK??? I WOULD'VE LOVE TO HAVE GOTTEN THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WHEN I WAS FUCKING SA'D FIVE YEARS AGO??? LET ALONE, HAVE PEOPLE BE WILLING TO SUPPORT ME I COULDN'T EVEN GET THE DAMN POLICE INVOLVED, AND SHE HAS A WHOLE ASS PARADE!
Smiling or laughing can be a traumatic response, but if you look at the way Caiti does this, you can clearly see it's not the case here. Plus, when she told her story for the first time she was crying, but now she smiles and smirks - that's how you know she's lying and tries to play a character.
she was smiling so hard at the start like if people didn’t believe my own abuse story i wouldn’t be smiling i’d be crying like the other times people didn’t believe me 💀
I've regretted several sexual encounters in my life, but I didn't know how to say no and I had issues I'm still working on to this day. *Just because I felt violated doesn't mean they violated me, I clearly consented so it's on me.* I don't get how you can blame the other person for your own internal struggles that they can't know unless you tell them.
I honestly have had experiences with girls where I've been like I wish I talked with them more before a sexual encounter but we more just ploughed through with the sex. I felt in hindsight we might have gotten more out of talking, but i felt like i might have spoiled an oppurtunity...and ended up feeling a bit empty when all we got was just the sex. Previous generations didn't ask each other about consent and we just dealt with our own stuff...surely there's some midground to be had between instincts and conversation with sex to avoid the horrible stuff on both extremities.
Freshly 18? Most people are so excited to be 18 and finally be considered an adult. What’s the attempt to seem like she’s almost underage when she is in fact an adult. Weird.
As someone in this age group, I can assure you that many of us are NOT remotely excited to turn 18 and be ‘considered an adult’. There is literally nothing good about it at all. In fact, with every year that passes as we approach 18, a lot of us mourn rather than celebrate our birthdays. Moreover, the line between adolescence and adulthood isn’t so clear cut. For some time before the 70s, ppl didn’t become legal adults until age 21. Even now, everyone’s social, physical, and psychological development is different. The brain doesn’t reach full development until age 24 or 25, and I rlly can’t think of another scientific (factual rather than legal or social) basis for determining adulthood. Legal or social adulthood is meaningless, because there was a time when 14yo was considered adult. Most of us won’t feel like adults as long as we are still TEENagers and not yet independent. True adulthood must coincide with maturity, responsibility, and independence. So it doesn’t surprise me that this girl said ‘freshly 18’ and still felt this way. Does adulthood happen overnight? One day, you are a ‘child’, and a few minutes later, you automatically transform into an adult? That makes no sense. It is a gradual transition- either it is true that barely legal/almost underage is a real phenomenon, or almost legal/barely underage (at 17) would be. I have a theory about people who deny the former (they’re predatory creeps). That said, age is never an excuse for this sort of act, and it does seem as if she is using age, among other things, disingenuously to gain sympathy and to portray herself as a victim. I do not defend her by any means.
@@a.r.7885something I’ve been thinking about that correlates to that is like, if you think that turning 18 doesn’t mean you’re an adult (which I agree, it’s not an overnight thing that just happens), then shouldn’t the age of consent and adulthood be moved? But then if we move it up people will still use the same “barely legal” concept right? I’m sorry I’m not great at explaining my thoughts but basically what’s the point of having a “legal” age for these types of things (sexual wise) if it’s disregarded and treated as a creepy thing when those people get involved with adult things. Like there are creeps that prey on eighteen year olds because they’re right at the mark but wouldn’t those people still be around even if the age got brought up to like say 19? This doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with this specific topic it’s just more of a thought.
It’s neither here nor there because “freshly 18” is still 18. All that unnecessary (and frankly creepy) wording did was tip her hand, and it got a lot harder to take her story seriously before it even got started.
She lied about being freshly 18. She said it was a typo and meant she was freshly out of high school - but then she repeated the "freshly 18" point later in her allegations AGAIN with no mention of high school?
That seems like a dumb idea. Cancelling works on bigger creators works because they have their followings to lose but allegations can be made anonymously and also tend to come from smaller creators if they're not made anonymously. Way more trouble than it's worth and why dig on a guy for being on the wrong side of history?
Am I the only one who noticed she was drunk at 18 during this party. The only boundary breaker I’m seeing is her, meaning she’s unlawfully drinking since the limit is 21 years old
@@Riesan111 i hope you are doing well, and that-that past pain is not withholding you from a plenteous future, i hope you are blessed, and i wish you well in life.
Man if I took a shot for every time she used the word assault in a sentence, I would get alcohol poisoning. On a more serious note, the few people that have entrusted me with their story of SA never actually called it an SA or accentuated it as an SA when they talked about the events themselves. They became distant, talked about it as if it didn't happen to them , ocassionally had a nervous chuckle or self depricated themselves and berated themselves for not being able to protect themselves in these situations. They didn't smile consistently through talking about it and they didn't try to make others believe them. They just went this is my story, I feel safe enough to tell it to you, I get it if you abandon me after this cause I would too. And that shame and certainty of abandonment is both heartbreaking and terrifying. It's not whatever that kinda vid is.
As a SA/R@P3 survivor I can tell you rn she's lying. Any victim of a s3x crime is typically very uncomfortable telling the story. It feels very embarrassing and degrading to verbally recall to people, let alone the entire internet, that you were taken advantage of. It's a full on admittance of how vulnerable you were. Not only this but most "victims" (like myself) hate being called victims, especially if we've come to terms with the fact it wasn't our fault. We usually refer to ourselves as survivors or warriors, because these experiences cause a mass and deep internal amount of damage to us mentally. It's a lot to live with. I was one of those many women who suffered with PTSD from my experiences and still have recurring nightmares sometimes. It's been 10 years, I'm married with a baby, and yet I'm still extremely uncomfortable around the majority of men I encounter and am around on a daily basis. It took me roughly seven months to finally be able to tell my partner what happened to me, and it took me almost 2 years to tell my parents what happened after it had taken place. It's not easy to talk about, and someone being too comfortable discussing is almost always a sign they're lying.
I have been watching these situations from afar, and I have never really believed the "false allegation" narrative until now. That part where she rants about how "touching is still assault" is one of the most terrifying things I have ever heard. If I was a young man right now, I dont see how you could ever make a move on anybody ever without serious risk.
She said that unwanted sexual touch is sexual assault. You can touch someone without it being assault, especially if they want/ask for it. Hope that clears it up.
@@bigdreamer7 you really didn’t clear up anything you’re just kind of being a captain obvious buddy. Where is the line between the two? That’s the important part cause you can touch somebody’s knee and they can claim it with sexual, so where’s the line. OK I actually started to watch this video. She claims he touched her boobs that would be sexual assault. She should’ve said that in the beginning though, like how the hell do you leave that out and expect me to take you seriously. This feels like a scripted act.
The thing about spontaneous sexual activity is it’s kind of a gray zone and if you talk about it in detail and don’t ignore the reality of these situation that we all have been (or have never) been apart of if your making out with someone there’s territory for touching to take place if something uncomfortable happens say hey that was uncomfortable I’m not gonna continue this rather then saying I’ve just been graped boundaries and communication is the most important part because the reality is we arnt sitting down going through everything that is or isn’t permitted in any sexual interaction you can do that but it removes any spontaneity not that that’s the most important aspect of the interaction but it’s something that’s there in most cases
I was pretending to be asleep at a house party once where a girl kept trying to kiss me (she didnt know i was pretending, so to her i was asleep) and kept trying to wake me up for me to tell other people it was ok for her to sleep in my bed with me...if the roles were reversed and i did that to a drunk girl who was sleeping, I'd be crucified. But no one cared when i told them a woman had been doing that to me
What she did was completely wrong and disgusting. Any person, regardless of gender, should suffer the max consequences for that. In other words, she should have received the same treatment as if the roles were reversed, because consent should apply to everyone. It’s really sad that people don’t believe victims or ignore their experiences bc of their gender.
Fr tho, girls get away with too many things that guys would get canceled and shunned forever for. Anyone who doesn’t get what I mean should search up “girls prank vs guys prank” and they will understand what I mean
im 13 and its literally common sense in a situation where your cuddling for an hour to say i dont wanna do this, shes 18 your old enough to know whats wrong and right i hate all these fake cancels who wanna ruin someone so they bring up the fact that oh their 18 as if its not.. old and grown
i am an SA victim and i told the first person about it 2 years later. i cried so much, even then i had to go to therapy. till this day i STILL cry about the same situation. watching caiti lie actually makes me so mad. good video, keep going w the great content
ive never understood why some people want to be a victim sooo much. is it to gain attention? to find a group of people to try to fit in and relate to? for clout? to be liked and find a sense of belonging? idk but if you were to actually experience it, you wouldnt want to tell anyone. youd feel ashamed. its so sad truly. even if its not possible, i pray that you lose every single ounce of pain you feel every time you think of it. youre very strong and im glad you felt comfortable to tell someone and get therapy rather than letting it eat you up for the rest of your life. i hope the culprit rots. im so sorry.
I did the same thing, didn't even tell my own family for years. Told my therapist 3 years after it happend, I have diagnosed PTSD after what he did to me. I even lied to the hospital staff when they were about to operate on my fucking vagina. This infuriates me so much.
Even if he did touch her tits which is questionable given the way she conveniently left that part out initially, rape has a very specific definition: "Rape is a type of sexual assault involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without their consent". Touching tits without consent is not rape it would be sexual assault. It’s sad that practically the whole minecraft community instantly took her side on this without any question. Shes making it harder for real victims to come forward because they fear they won't be believed...
@@booleah6357 Yeah I feel bad for them but they keep making stupid decisions and apologizing for the dumbest things. If they can't help themselves then how are we suppose to care. Wish they were more like Jschlatt or KSI. Doesn't matter if you don't like them but they just ignore people trying to cancel them and it dies out..
@@ninjaredfirehot And there really needs to be more pushback on this sort of stuff or it will embolden these false accusers. That's how society ended up in the current situation because everyone keeps kow towing to these crazy people who just want to destroy others for 15 minutes of fame.
Analysing her body language: she's blinking a LOT, shaking her head as she speaks, increased breath rate and utilising her hands a lot are all signs of lying. Lying invokes anxiety which is why liars display this body language.
This girl is just an insult to people who have been SA in the past, and let’s not forget that her lies have been ruining the life of an innocent person
Nahhhh hear me out y'all- if she was actually crying in her first stream, her eyes would've been red, her face would be scrunched up, her voice didn't break, and her facial expressions were overexaggerated asf. She really thought she acted well with that dumb fake crying 💀💀
As a woman I’ve noticed a lot of women try to pull this crap. They think because they like a dude at first and get all cute with him and then they’re disappointed because he’s not as good as they thought he would be they rather say they were assaulted/graped because they didn’t like it (disappointed) Being assaulted/graped is not the freakin same as yikes that guy wasn’t as good as I thought he would be and now I have the ick Doesn’t matter if you’re male or female, we’ve all been disappointed by that person we thought we liked This seriously needs to be discussed more because yes it’s important ppl understand what SA is, but a lot of ppl are starting to blur the lines and ruin ppls lives
Wow. So those women just go about their days pretending they're not gross? Interesting... The rating system is mad these days. 0-10 10 being amazing. 0 being so bad, it's worth reporting as SA rather than forgetting it ever happened like a normal person.
It's because society threats women like children and many enjoy it that way. for example: if I go to a party to have some drinks and I meet a drunk women and pay her some more drinks. we end up in a hotel room. next day she can go to the police and file a rape allegation. and no matter if she wins or not a mans life will be destroyed. society doesn't expect from women to function drunk. Men have though. So when a man and a woman get drunk and anything happens the woman didn't like or will not like in the future it was abuse by the man.
She wasn't just dissapointed in him. He was dissapointed in her. Here's a recap of the events: She's supposedly being assaulted even tho they've been playing with each other, cuddling with each other, and tickling each other for an hour straight. Anyways, he tickles her and at worst puts a hand on her waist, while they are ALREADY touching (Cuddling doesn't mean they are just sitting next to each other, it's pretty intimate). She is laughing and not caring. "BuT SHE DIDNT CONSENT!!!" Ok? If she felt uncomfortable, maybe the several times she got up to drink more alc or to go to the bathroom would have given her an opportunity to leave him. But no, she sits right back and continues where she left off. "She's still a victim, Silence is not consent!" At what point is consent still required? You've been intimate for an hour, touching each other for an hour. Smiling, laughing at each other. Playing games. But disregard all this. Forget it. If you were being abused, why wouldn't you leave with your friends when they leave? Why would you stay there? You're not in fight flight freeze because you're not 'flighting' or 'freezing' You're getting up only to come back and cuddle with him. But ok, she supposedly got abused that night... SO THEN WHY DO YOU INITIATE A TEXT WITH YOUR ABUSER THE DAY AFTER THE INCIDENT? Why DO YOU START FLIRTING WITH YOUR ABUSER? FOR WHAT REASON??? And she flirts with him back n forth for a month until he ghosts her / rejects her... To which the story turns from awkward flirting between the two -> abuse
Imagine the amount of men that are accused by women like this but don’t have the platform to tell their side and show proof. They’re convicted predators for something that never happened, some even in prison and never released. The lucky ones that do get “justice” are released after spending 20+ years in prison for a lie told by a conniving bitter woman
yeah, by the time I'd realized I was ace, I actively avoided getting into any potentially risque situations. I like cuddling here and there but I'm not dumb enough to put myself on the spot like that. all I can think is either she's making up the bit about being ace or she's just severely lacking in maturity and social awareness, and truly believes she was SA's when in fact she just allowed herself to go further than she was internally comfortable with. Which is NOT SA. And she has an enormous amount of learning and growing to do.
? She's not that old she could've discovered after the event. I know plenty of ace people that were in a shitty sexual situation before discovering they were ace. Why the fuck we arguing labels rn?
crazy that no one else in the comments is saying stuff about that though... i wouldnt want to be alone in the same room w anyone from this comment section ngl 🤷
@@ayamehachimitsu the entire time, though? And if I were making a video like that, talking about something so serious, I wouldn't be worried about reading the chat. It just seems so bizarre that she barely glanced at the camera, let alone made actual eye contact.
Her expressions, the way she moves, her manner of speech, in addition to the absolute bull crap she’s spewing out her mouth, I’ve never felt such disgust. This is quite mean to say, but I genuinely feel repugnance when I look at her.
Never had anyone touch her before George, yes. That was like a year ago, she could've had more than one bad sexual experience over that time. You are also massively oversimplifying her statement.
@@endieend129 ? she's using the fact that she was already ace at the time as 'evidence' she wouldn't have consented. So she's talking about being ace before it happened.
George had to clear why his subs were on and all money goes to charity. On the contrary here we see her shamelessly keeping on donations and having text to speech for donos. She is just attacking George to get clout we see her real personality in this stream She also said she was freshly 18 twice in the first stream like what does she want from this whole situation
She also scripted what she was saying on the first stream. If she was just getting her thoughts out unscripted then whatever ig, but she was literally reading a script off her phone. Like, you seriously cant fact check your own script before streaming?? She was also both vague and descriptive about what happened. It just seems like she regrets having been affectionate with George and at some point decided she wanted to use what happened to gain clout by manipulation the events that really took place.
She has a consistent tell called "duping delight" where you smirk when you think youre getting away with your fib. She does it tonnes. It's not proof, but it's something to pay attention to along with her other many red flags.
Saw this in another comment too. Glad there's an actual term for it. Cause yeah being this indulgent with it and adding new "info" is wild and it's something you see so much with other liars of SA.
@@someguy-sq5omthat's subjective. Back in the 90s some of the worst lays I ever had were with chick with septum rings and dark clothes. It was and still is my type but definitely not all of them are good lays. The music part is subjective too but in that area I agree
Her throwing in the ace card is like a dude saying he's gay after being rejected, everyone hears it and just goes: no you're not, you're trying to make yourself look better
"It's not a fake allegation" So in other words what she said is just a real allegation? So what does that say about what actually happened? Nothing that's the answer.
I think she feels like she got assaulted now because she regrets being intimate with him and letting it progress to where it did. If youre cuddling with a guy for an hour... expect it to escalate... if it does and you dont want it you open your mouth and tell them to stop. If it doesnt stop you push him away and move... if he forces you then its sexual assault.
it’s clear that she’s mad at him for dropping her as soon as he found out she was 18. now she’s coming online with these allegations to get his attention
"if you're cuddling with a guy for an hour expect it to escalate" this "boys will be boys" mentality is SO unhealthy and damaging. cuddling (which she said in her video that she saw as completely platonic) does NOT equal consent. smiling does NOT equal consent. wearing certain types of clothes does NOT equal consent. not saying anything also does. not. equal. consent. the only thing that equals consent is an affirmative yes on both ends which as both people have stated DID NOT HAPPEN. therefore it was assault. also, saying just push him away is just fucking stupid. not only did he hold social and occupational power over her, it was also in front of people. and she was drunk. there are so many factors, it isn't just black and white. and it's never as easy to say "just push him away" or "just tell him no".
@@Autumnnn_017 Girllll 💀 don’t EVER try to excuse someone’s behavior just because they were drunk. That’s like defending a guy who beats on his wife whenever he gets blackout drunk, if you were responsible enough to take that sip of alcohol then you are responsible for the consequences that comes with it ESPECIALLY knowing that you’re not of age to drink. Second of all George was drinking as well & from what I’ve researched he must’ve been more drunk than her because Caiti only started drinking when she reached at the party (was confirmed by her friend who went with her) & George was already drinking way before that (still doesn’t excuse their behavior). Thirdly I don’t know if this is a me thing or if anybody else does it but I personally don’t cuddle people I only know for a couple of hours & I don’t cuddle with guys & expect it to be platonic when we were both being flirty with each other. This girl literally had been flirting back & forth with him while they were cuddling & you say that it’s assault if he put his hand on her stomach?? She’s a different type of b**** to not only lead on someone that she was so ‘uncomfortable’ with but then go on the internet a few months later to ‘expose’ him rather than go to police. It just seems to me that when he found out she was 18 & ghosted her, she somehow took offense to that & now is retaliating by trying to ruin his career over a MUTUAL cuddle session. The thing that Caiti doesn’t understand is when you turn 18 you’re legally an adult whether you like it or not & the way she tried to make George out as if he was a p3do when she referred to herself in her original stream as ‘freshly’ 18 then backtracks in her latest stream basically saying that she didn’t mean to say ‘freshly 18’ but ‘freshly out of high school’ WHEN SHE LITERALLY MADE THE TALKING POINTS HERSELF! you can see her reading off of it! That girl is such a loser & a pick me & it’s females like her that are making it harder for actual victims to be taken seriously.
Ty so much for addressing the huge problem with false SA allegations. It is so disrespectful to real victims of SA. We already have a hard time with people believing us. This is absolutely making it harder for real victims. And it makes SA basically a joke. I don't like to talk about my SA. I cannot imagine sitting on live in front of subs chatting away discussing my SA with such glee. Even though it's been yrs ago & I've had therapy, I can't imagine telling strangers about something so traumatic that happened to me. I went to the police & they ended up pleading guilty to a very lesser charge that I had no say so about. If this person here went to the police they would laugh at her. There is such a thing as implied consent. If you & the guy are both under the influence & you flirt, cuddle, get up & come back, allow him to touch you, that is sending him signals that you enjoy what is happening. He is not a mind reader so how is he supposed to know if you don't speak up. I couldn't tell you the times I've told guys "Not so fast" or "don't do that" or something similar. That isn't comparable in any way to my previous SA. I promise Caiti or whatever that she does not want to experience real SA. It is burned into your mind forever. And there is no mistake in your mind to make you decide months later you might have been SA'd. Sorry for the long post but you don't know how much I appreciate your video & the fact you are speaking up for real victims ❤
So we need to be rude in order to get people to stop? I'm a victim too, and I have a lot of anxiety denying someone, it shows in my face I don't like it, people dont need a degree for empathy, its built in genes. People are so out of touch or reallity that they think that you have to fight to get away. But they dont even get the fear of being in the same situation. You might had a bad time, and you might be a victim, but that doesnt mean you experience needs to be exact to others. Also there are people that arent afraid of talking about a situation they had.
Oh and btw, this man talked a lot of bs in the video, things that reminded me of my SA. I hope you get that talking about victims in our name is disrespectful.
As a woman, I feel like it’s absolutely horrible now, women will say ANYTHING, true or not, against any male, and will ALWAYS be believed. It’s frustrating because they will go against any popular person online, make up the craziest of allegations and post it on Twitter. In my opinion, if you genuinely are a victim of sexual assault, take it to COURT. Not fucking Twitter. You don’t need to involve the entire internet and make unnecessary drama.
Clout and vindictiveness are one hell of a drug sadly… Doesn’t help when women have A LOT of power when it comes to the law since they are always perceived as the victims and us as the monsters…
@@no_0riginality937 That is very true. My boyfriend studies the Canadian law, and it is stated that woman will most likely have lessened sentences compared to men, which is absolutely ridiculous. Doesn’t help when the entirety of the internet constantly shits on men, for literally anything. And it’s also acceptable to say stuff like « kill all men », or doing stupid acts like breaking someone’s car after being cheated on? If a man were to do the same to a woman, we’d never hear the end of it. But when a woman does it to a man, it never matters. Society for you.
Its funny how those crocodile tears instantly vanished and was replaced by anger when no one believed her BS.
She couldn’t even cry on camera lol; look closely you just see red on her face, no water no tears.
Ikr she’s so obviously fake
the real question is: do crocodiles actually cry?
@@jacksparrow7474 they cry to clean their eyes
BS?
She's smiling a lot in this video. I don't know a single victim of sexual assault who ever smiled when they were reliving their experiences.
Ong bruh like why you smiling ain't you hurt?? That's like me getting ran over by a car and getting up giggling and shit
As someone who was a victim of sa I was not smiling when I told my school about it
I'm a sa victim myself, and I find it hard not to cry when telling it. NOBODY smiles when they tell this shit.
@@mostsaneyanfeimain1177I'm sorry that happened to you
And she isn't looking into the camera at ALL. That seems so disingenuous
She showing the body language of a tik toker trying to act in a movie
omg this describes it so well
Exactly 😭 you described what I was thinking perfectly
True you can clearly hear it from her voice
That's exactly what this is. She's auditioning for a victim role in a teen horror chick-flick.
shes doing a tiktok POV lol
First it’s “that was my first sexual experience and he ruined it for me” then it’s “ALL of my bad sexual experiences have made me ACE.” So George wasn’t your first sexual experience? Okay Ms. Inconsistencies.
She is so contradicting. 😡😡🤬
Ye also, experiences dont MAKE you ace💀
@@cupcakefunnyface1393 elaborate lmao
@@anisdvdI think they mean bad sexual experiences don’t turn u asexual
@@dartsporg457 definitely, if you only have bad sexual experiences, you can’t come to a conclusion that you’re asexual without experiencing the good aspect of it. also, considering she was 18 when it happened, she possibly may not have ever experienced anything sexual or intimate until then. so she still can’t make that decision when she is still quite young.
That's the happiest victim of SA I've ever seen.
"🤑He touched me 😆 I'm a victim 🤑"
"and😁I'm 😊not gonna😝apologize😃"
Before: I was freshly 18 😢😢
Now: lol yea I meant freshly out of highschool oops sorrynotsorry
Exactly. I’m a male who was a victim of SA when I was younger. Took me years to even tell my parents. Couldn’t look them in the eyes. Never felt so ashamed and disgusted in myself never told anyone since. Not a single friend or loved one knows about it.
@@superior4498 I know how you feel I hope the best for you ♥️
god the fact that i have to treat allegations like a fucking pokémon battle to see who’s right and wrong is insane
lmao this was funny but yea its crazy
Treating allegations like turn based combat out here 😭
And the opponent is always using a MeeTwo.
Accuser hit itself out of confusion.😂
Oh my god I'm going to do that from now on, and you can't stop me.
I just feel bad for George. Took the dude an hour to make the first move with something as light as tickling. Hes clearly already shy and sensitive and now it’ll be way worse
I've always wondered if these ppl who get falsely accused get disgusted with themselves and then if it gets difficult for them to get in a sexual and intimate contact.
Like yk it doesn't just ruin their career but also the way they see themselves and how much it fucks them up mentally.
@@Ananxiety Of course. It's an animal instinct. If you get negative expirience from doing something, you would less likely want to do that again. If you get shamed for something, you'll be anxious about it. A lot of mental problems form like this.
Fr. She says "he's so much more powerful and bigger than me I'm scareddd🥺" when broski is built like a stick😂😂 poor guy, I'm glad ppl are finally starting to figure this out. I knew she was a bull shitting a hole the moment her pathetic little allegation came out. Awful fake crier🤗
I wonder if he could sue her for defamation. he definitely has money, and def lost some bc of her. would probably stop so many random Twitter allegations from popping up.
@@soup6000 This right here. God I hope so.
As an ACE individual, I think she needs to stfu about not liking cuddling and touching. I'm ace and know how to say NO and EW.
Girl sthu
as an ace as well i was genuinely so mad when she said that like... she's made a horrible image for the ace community and isn't being ace a spectrum?? being ace does not mean u don't like intimacy like oh my GODDD 😭😭 and ace people can choose to consent / not consent just like any other allo person could,, she weaponized asexuality so hard
As an ace I agree
Like an ace trainer from pokemon? Wtf is ace
@@greensabr200 asexual 😎
Too drunk to not consent > sober enough to remember the entire night 7 months later
ye even i find that just a bit sus
underrated
Wonder if she's still drunk..but I agree..it's weird tbh..maybe she and one of her friends plotted this out to cancel him..or just she herself
To be fair every time I hit my ex I was drunk but I remember each time perfectly. (She had it coming every single time)
@@GoogleAidsbro 😮
She wants to be a SA victim so bad she can taste it.
Just tell her to go to India.
@@hentypeoh thatd not
@@Mininaterras an indian, it’s true. i’m so glad i moved away. I remember when i was a kid (10 yrs) and i went a bit farther than my parents, a man approached me with malicious intent and i ran away like never before and left as quickly as possible.
@@SimulatedRoses you shouldn't generalize a place tho. also im sorry about what happened take care 💗
That's literally every gen z girl. They'll all claim to be SA victims if you ask them
The "victims dont have to explain themselves" was the point that really bothered me
Of course they do, oh my gosh. If there's no proof or explanation, there is no way that people will be able to believe.
Yet another woman making it even harder for real victims to speak out. False accusations deserve higher consequences.
Coughs* (death sentence)
False accusations should be served by spending double the time in prison then the amount of time the original person would have spent
@@SomeDude096 Stretches* (executed)
@@SomeDude096 Stretches* (executed)
not like they would have gotten much time anyways
@@ZomboidMania
"I messed up i-" YOU SCRIPTED IT YOU HAD IT WRITTEN OUT 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Facts. She uses the excuse of "remembering" her "assault," but she had a whole Shakespearean play written out. She had to remember wrongly like 100+ times then ONLY remember what actually happened when everyone that was there said she was lying.
@brutace9219 fr, and didn't she condemn George for making a pre recorded video with all the actual facts straight?
She gets the details wrong because its hard to remember all the lies.
It's like people rewriting history but worse somehow. @@brutace9219
@@LightEnjoyer yes. Anything she does is powerful amazing independent woman. Anything he does is predatory oppressive evil man.
5:50 as a man who was groped by a woman, its not as easy as you think to "just say no". I think this girl is full of it tbh but its completely valid for people to not be sure what to do during a sexual assault until after it happens.
Its like if someone robbed you in daylight, maybe your first reaction is to chase them down, maybe you stand there thinking its a prank, maybe you're just completely shocked and do nothing. There are so many ways you can react and you're not really make a coherent decision in the moment.
It happened to me while I was taking a vape break at work, a guy put his arm around me and I froze, he then proceeded to feel me up and again I froze, I couldn’t move. It’s our flight, fight or freeze response, it’s all well saying I would do this or do that if that happened to me, you don’t know how u will react until it happens. Her story is BS though, it’s a total different situation to ours, her saying that she’s been SA’d when she clearly hasn’t, just invalidates true victims, it’s no wonder some victims don’t come forward. I was date r when I was 20 and it took me 13 years to tell someone. Sorry that happened to you and I hope ur doing well
Saying no for her isn't the same. This scenario played out through an entire hour. She also left the scene multiple times and came back. Here's a recap:
She's supposedly being assaulted even tho they've been playing with each other, cuddling with each other, and tickling each other for an hour straight. Anyways, he tickles her and at worst puts a hand on her waist, while they are ALREADY touching (Cuddling doesn't mean they are just sitting next to each other, it's pretty intimate). She is laughing and not caring. "BuT SHE DIDNT CONSENT!!!" Ok? If she felt uncomfortable, maybe the several times she got up to drink more alc or to go to the bathroom would have given her an opportunity to leave him. But no, she sits right back and continues where she left off.
"She's still a victim, Silence is not consent!" At what point is consent still required? You've been intimate for an hour, touching each other for an hour. Smiling, laughing at each other. Playing games. But disregard all this. Forget it. If you were being abused, why wouldn't you leave with your friends when they leave? Why would you stay there? You're not in fight flight freeze because you're not 'flighting' or 'freezing' You're getting up only to come back and cuddle with him.
But ok, she supposedly got abused that night... SO THEN WHY DO YOU INITIATE A TEXT WITH YOUR ABUSER THE DAY AFTER THE INCIDENT? Why DO YOU START FLIRTING WITH YOUR ABUSER? FOR WHAT REASON??? And she flirts with him back n forth for a month until he ghosts her / rejects her... To which the story turns from awkward flirting between the two -> abuse
@@midas-cars I said I think she's bs. However, the dudes point in the video about "just say no" is dangerous to spread so carelessly.
@@xj0469clank In her case it applies though. I think he's pointing out how she had a whole hour, and several opportunities to leave or say no. She also chose to flirt with him the day after. I (hopefully) don't think he's generalizing every situation. But in this situation it applies.
@@midas-cars Sorry what, it applies? Says who? This commentary channel? You? George?
So first thing, they were cuddling for an hour but the touching wasn't happening the whole time. And even so, I think it would be WORSE if it happened over the course of an hour, it'd be like being surrounded by people while you're being touched and nobody's coming to help you. I would be highly disencouraged from speaking up if people were ignoring my suffering for an hour straight.
I don't think it's fair to say that she could've said no at any point in that party because we don't know what she's going through. This is also a public setting, so telling him to stop would also make people aware that you were being touched sexually in public, so it's probably embarrasing for her. Even your own comments seems to imply there's more nuance than "this applies" or "this doesn't apply".
Also, "she also chose to flirt with him the day after" is coming from George's account of the situation, not her own account of the situation, so she could've just not flirted with him or he could've misinterpreted their banter for flirting. Even if you still choose to believe George, look up hypersexualization as a response to sexual trauma (because I'm not qualified to speak on that subject.)
Lying about being a victim of sa which could potentially DESTROY someone’s life should be illegal.
it is
Its defamation of character
life in prison imo
As an ACTUAL SA victim who has multiple friends who are also SA victims, nobody will ever yell that they are a victim. They won't go and yell at people for saying it wasn't sexual assault. She seems to have a lot of joy when telling people about her experience. Being SA'd is shameful and scary. Telling people is even worse. When I told my mom it took me more then an hour to tell her that someone touched me. That's literally all I said and it took me an hour because I kept bursting into tears, I couldn't breathe, and I was having a panic attack. STFU with the pretty crying. Everyone knows that a load of shit.
I hope you’ll feel better now, stay safe :c
@@ChaosZTC Aww thank you love. It happened a long time ago, the only problem I have now is not being able to put up with people's bs about this kind of thing.
I have hugs 🤗. If you need any I mean
@@simpforsupersoldiers No problem 🥺 I understand, SA is definitely not something people should joke about. I have a friend who experienced SA and I could tell the trauma is really painful from her perspective.
I"m sorry you had to go through that and I hope you're doing better. This kind of stuff is annoying because real victims are already going through trauma and don't get believed, and for someone like this to come in and treat it like its a good thing is just sickening. People need to be held accountable for false allegations because this happens way too much and there's very little consequences.
She said that George was her "first sexual experience" but then says she doesn't like sexual stuff bc of bad experiences in the past?? Nothing she says makes sense
She's referring to the time her dad tickled her when she was five without consent.
how does this not make sense??
@@Autumnnn_017 read it over and over again until it makes sense to you, they cannot be clearer.
@@junosgladius was under the impression that she was talking about her experience with him, and that may have a part in her being asexual.
@junosgladius Thank you lol
STEP 1.) Find popular male STEP 2.) Be intimate with them STEP 3.) Claim SA and get popularity to start your own online following/get simp support and money.
i mean it has been this way sinds the dawn of time
It’s disgusting how it keeps getting worse.
@@imperialdra-mon5907how do you misspell since so wrong(unless English is a second language then I understand but if not how)
He wanted to say simp the dawn of time@@DyIanGaming
@@DyIanGamingHey you some times miss spell when you are ether laughing or annoyed about some thing you know lol
So a woman can give consent in the moment, (apparently she didn't EVER hint that she didn't want him to touch her) then regret it later in life and all of a sudden the part changes from consent to SA? Man I love my male priviledge. Really great deal us men got
she doesnt regret anything. she just wants money
if she gave consent, she can renounce that consent IN THE MOMENT, but this girl picturing this as SA is sick. nothing from her story makes sense
As a victim of SA myself this is just disgusting. She keeps smiling like “omg I ruining this man’s career” this is absolutely disgusting. Because of her real victims like myself never get believed. I never have put online exposing my abuser as I feel as though if it comes to light no one will believe me just because of people like her faking being a victim online. I am absolutely repulsed and disgusted by her.
My mom I think she was sexually assaulted, a man she saw as her uncle tried to kiss her when I would guess she was maybe 16 - 20, and the man 30 - 35 (just guesses) but when she told her mom, her mom didn't care, it's so horrible how so many victims are seen or heard. But then we have people who lie about what happened to them. Or just giggle and laugh about it and people care about the ones who didn't suffer but not the ones who did
as a sa survivor I use smiling and laughing as a coping mechanism when it comes to traumatic events
@@Vee_4200are you defending her?
"I never have put online exposing my abuser as I feel as though if it comes to light no one will believe me" you should feel you should takie it to the police or other authorize law enforcement agency, not to twitter/tiktok
@@korruptor9777 I don't know almost anything about this whole situation but I'm just talking about my own experience
god forbid the words "freshly 18" ever infiltrate my ears again
I prefer barely legal. BRB, got a date with the HUB
@@someguy-sq5om😬 sus bro? You like them young?? Jkjkjk lol my bad, but I agree with ops comment my ears have been violated
@@someguy-sq5omits not barely legal. Its just legal
@@Gringle9coolguy just having fun 😁 I like em ALL above 18.
@@theredknight9314 they are referring to the common tittle name, which even then is highly suspect on the hub 💀
Never thought I would say this, but Amber Heard did a better job presenting herself as a "victim" than this one.
LOL
LMFAOOO
REAL
Fr
except amber heard was a victim
other creators: please dont send hate!
pegasus: IM GIVING YOU GUYS FULL PERMISSION TO ABSOLUTELY COOK HER IN THE COMMENTS SECTION
She's 'asexual due to sexual experiences' but claimed in a different stream that this encounter with him was her first 'intimate' experience. 🤡
As a female I hope she gets sued. Not on some pick me shxt but as an actual victim of sexual assault is really disgusting smh
It's not "pick me" behavior to want to see other women held accountable. Anyone who says otherwise probably acts like this girl.
exactly. this sort of behavior brings other women down@@HelpW4nted
YESS
this whole pick me bull shit has ruin women lowkey 💀
@@chunkyboy9266 fact, I can't even say something about another woman as a woman without fear of being labeled one anymore. Lucky nobody in my comments is brain dead 💀
she’s very bad at acting
maybe.
For real she looks like she's giving a school performance
yeah for some reason i was getting some disney channel acting vibes there
Probably why she isn't looking into a camera at all.
Fr
this video is perfect. i’ve never had a man ask for consent because in the moment, our behavior is very mutual and we’ve both been into it. chronically online people thinking you need to ask for consent in every circumstance is going to be the downfall of our society
THISSSS
Its never really occurred to me to ask for consent in case I screw up the vibe of what is blatently obviously going on. It seems like a really childish and stupid thing to do, tbh.
If I did ask, I'd more than likely be making the girl think there's something wrong with them and it would be an all-round fail.
I’ve experienced grooming, SA ect. And when I’ve told my story I’ve randomly smiled or “laughed”, but only quickly. Found out it’s cause I dissociate when telling the stories and it’s like I’m reading out of a book and not telling my actual experiences. Or when I get angry/find stuff ridiculous. But I’ve NEVER myself nor seen someone tell their story smiling and laughing this much…
brief smiling and awkward laughs as a coping mechanism make sense, I know many people including myself that do that. the amount she smiles and laughs is way more than a coping mechanism would be
I was going to comment this too. Laughing during a story doesn’t immediately discredit the story however I agree it’s definitely weird how continuously she does it. I’m sorry you had to go through that, and I truly hope things get better for you ❤
It just makes it even more evil that she would gladly ruin someones life without a care in the world, just to boost her fame that will last no longer than a couple months and not benefit her in the future at all. those brain dead nonsensical twitter idiots fed into her narcissism. I want to know how she felt doing it. Gross, heartless woman
i spoke with my friend, victim of serious SA from someone who should her most important protector as parent. She was smiling while telling it, but neiteher her voice nor ESPECIALLY EYES, were showing any positive emotion. Her eyes expressionlessness and botomless void make me shiver even now when i am recalling it.
That tryhard that went too far with her story, doesnt show neither of these. These are not fake awkward smiles of dissociation.
George should seriously consider taking legal action against her for defamation. She’s fucking crazy
If he isn't going to court over this then that means he knows he did something wrong and by trying to do a defamation he would end up either losing or looking even guiltier
Her acting like this is typical Borderline signs..
@@sarahtelles1931 Not at all. Court costs a loooooot of money, no matter if you win or lose. 100% can understand not wanting to.
@@sarahtelles1931not when you consider 1. the cost and 2. The public response. Dumbasses online are going to pull the “white man using money” narrative to villainize him more.
@@sarahtelles1931she's not that big content creator. Suing her would cost a lot of time, mental health and money that he would not even see because she doesn't even have it.
The girl is just a liar and everybody see the same, maybe he will just laugh and move on.
She basically saying “I’m 18 and 5 months old treat me like a child” I was SA in 4th grade and I wasn’t laughing and smiling like she is. I had to go to the mental hospital because I was a danger to myself due to the trauma. So this girl obviously doesn’t know what SA is and the effects of the trauma of it. Just cancel this woman already!
I'm very sorry this happened to you. This girl is unknowingly discrediting victims just for her greed and desire for fame and money
I'm so sorry that you experienced that. I hope that now, you have been able to recover from something so horrible.
you know what this may sound crazy but i dont believe you
you don't even know what it means
I doubt Twitter will cancel her because Twitter is made up of cave dwellers
“Freshly” 18 year olds have served in every war in human history, 18 is not a child nor are they treated as such by the law/society in general.
TF did she think she is? A fucking butterfly freshly coming out of her cocoon
I know someone who is a SA survivor who is 37 and after it happened she still cries after 15 years, this makes me so fucking pissed when someone lies about it. Also if you do say you are a SA victim it would be logical to go to the police because if you say it online there is a strong chance cops may not take the case. THIS IS SO FUCKING ANNOYING THAT SOMEONE LIE ABOUT THIS! Also I am Christian but I’m a little rusty on the Bible but isn’t it a sin to lie about this stuff. Anyone that is a SA victim I pray for you and hope your life gets better.
"I'm not gonna apologize"
when George kept apologizing for showing proof, for being right, for having a proper response,, 😭😭. woman was smiling so much while talking and the over dramatization of her wording is insane.
+ when she kept adding sht to her story just shows shes starting to run out of reasons
Fr tho
If another woman told me that some man did something to her; my question would be why she did not do something to him herself? Why try to get other people to do something on your behalf instead of acting yourself? If it were me, I would track down and eliminate my abuser myself; I would not want peoples sympathy I would want revenge myself. The fact that these women are unwilling to act independent of someone elses intervention tells me that they are liars. Furthermore, I will promise you that if she had to pay money to pursue charges that she would not pursue charges; make them put their money where their mouth is. If they are unwilling to pay to pursue the issue and will not act on their own I promise you it didn't happen. Men, please stop indulging women so much. Those women take it as a given that men will support them and act on their behalf; so stop. Just stop. Leave them to fend for themselves and I can promise you these women will either improve or will perish; either way the world will improve for it. You dont need these lame b---s in your life.
George didn't apologize for showing proof, and his apology definitely does not help his case that he apologized, it means he is conceding some amount of truth in her statements.
George did show proof for a lot of things, but mostly things that didn't matter so much, and some were also debunked in Caiti's second stream (Such as the 21+ bracelet, and Caiti's involvements in the group chats)
To be clear, the above inconsitencies don't matter to the allegation AT ALL to me.
"when she kept adding sht" is so weird to me. You do realize one of the things that wasn't in the original story was George's name, right? You seem to be misunderstanding the intent of her first statement as the intent was not to cancel GeorgeNotFound, but rather share her own experiences and raise awareness about sex crimes in MCYT circles.
From this perspective, saying you were groped is a potentially triggering detail that also is embarrasing to publicly announce. She came out with those details after the fact because George obviously was vague about it too and now that she had eyes on her, she wanted him to be held accountable for it. (Or at least, these are the reasons I believe she did this, but point being, I don't think she was adding details, moreso that she was being intentionally vague to protect herself and to not trigger people.)
"She's starting to run out of reasons" bro she doesn't owe the internet her story and she definitely does not need to explain her reasoning for sharing the allegations.
@@endieend129 None of what you're saying makes any sense. She opened up with an online video about someone and used details that only applied to one person. That person was under the impression that he had done nothing before the allegations and only found out about it after the stream aired since the details and comments described the night they were together. An allegation is a very serious thing so if she makes the claim, she needs proof and to not get details wrong, so what you said above actually matters a lot. George didn't show a lot of nothing burgers, some of the proof used was falsified and left many details incredibly general and it made Caiti look really bad her second stream didn't help her as George's big thing that got debunked minor comparatively to the inconsistencies of Caiti.
I'm still waiting for all the details before I make a judgment call but from what it seems right here, Caiti doesn't look good. The Omission of cuddling, which I personally don't believe is inherently sexual doesn't look good along with many other factors left out or disproven at this point. I don't mind showing support to someone who's struggling and talking about something incredibly hard and personal but when it's something that's absolutely life-altering and being brought forward onto the internet to be viewed by their peers or a bunch of viewers, inconsistencies matter a lot as it would in any legal proceeding. Most of the internet didn't turn on Caiti because they liked George or disliked Caiti inherently, it was after the multiple streams, messages, and other comments rubbed people the wrong way as people take S.A. very seriously and are holding it at a level of gravitas that it requires.
This isn't to say you're wrong as we don't have all the details, she very well might be telling the truth or believes she's telling the truth. Just more-so saying that in these cases she is obligated to talk about this even if she's uncomfortable since she brought this into an allegation online and it's not something you can claim and leave open as that would be incredibly irresponsible and more damaging than not. These claims need to be backed up if she wants to raise awareness otherwise it's bad optics and she'll have people calling her a liar and making things harder on other S.A. victims who'll have a harder time in the future with this type of thing. Feel free to disagree as I'm curious why you hold some of these positions.
fr she could have apologized for her "mixing up the wording" such as the 'freshly eighteen' and 'freshly out of high school' mix-up. even if she "didn't mean to", she did say them, and she would need to apologize for being accidentally being misleading
Bro just sue her on defamation already
YES i honestly don’t know why any of these content creators don’t take this to court
For what money?
She can just lie and he will have to pay tens of thousands just to maybe bring her to court.
Its really time consuming and shes already shown to literally everyone thats shes lying. The only people who believe her are her friends and people who just hate the dude just cause.
For the most part, women get more say in court (e.g. a woman could just lie about s/a in court and put a man in jail) so I don't think that would work out that well. Even if it would, it's not really worth the risk.
@@3amPizzaRolls Her continuing to fuck up his business opportunities sounds like it's worth the risk to me.
I get she’s lying but I wouldn’t, George wouldn’t get anything out of it and it’ll just make the situation bigger than it already is
I’ve never seen anyone so desperate to be a victim in my whole life.
The scary thing is that if this girl was a little smarter and said a consistent solid story, she would've been able to easily destroy george's career off of nothing.
Her constantly smiling in between the conversations about the horrors she went through scares me. She can’t drop the smiling once
I’m sure someone who has been SA wouldn’t be smiling, this girl has lied for attention :(
she is so animated, comes off as acting
This is what liars do when they are trying to paint a narrative and think they are getting away with it.
She's a really bad actor but i want to tell you, this is called dupers delight. It's when someone is happy from lying or getting away from something!!
Her face throughout the entire video is a perfect example of Dupers Delight. This is a feeling people get when they successfully get away with cheating or lying. Signs of Dupers Delight include inappropriate smiling, crinkling of the eyes, and biting of the lip, all of which she does throughout the stream.
She KNOWS she’s going to win everyone over again and she could not be happier.
This. Plus she’s happy she got her sub goal for that stream yay!
dam, thank you, I learned something today, also yes it creeped me out how she was smiling about all of this
Oh. Oh damn. Terrifying.
Shes crazy. Absolute psycho. Can't believe her terrible acting son over most of twitter 😭
She sounds like she went to Amber Heard school of stepping on a bee
ur disgusting, comparing her to amber when amber did get abused aswell is insane.
the girl in this video is LYING amber actually got abused
@@scorpiorising2504 no amber didn't. Johnny depp won for a reason 😂😂😂😂
@@scorpiorising2504 AINT NO WAY YOU'RE DEFENDING AMBER HEARD 💀
@@SoilKilonova If you were open-minded you'd realize they were BOTH abusive. Most people agree with Amber Heard now you must be late to the party. 🤷♀
@@scorpiorising2504 she has 3 exs that she abused but women would rather believe her than call out a woman
um? even if he did grab her tits, they were cuddling for hours, they were drunk together..... consent is rarely a verbal "yes you can grab my tits", if you were acting like that with him how was he supposed to know your uncomfortable? as an actual victim of SA, this is so insulting. just because she regrets it, doesnt mean she needs to find someone to blame. i had basically the exact same thing happen to me as her, drinking with some guys and one touched me like that after a while of us being flirty. while i was drunk and accidentally sent him the wrong signals, he had no bad intentions and it was just a touch. not every situation your uncomfortable in has to be someone elses fault. shes making a joke out of actual victims.
i cant even speak about my actual sexual assault without having a panic attack. ive gone through so much healing that ive had to do myself. the ptsd is the loneliest thing in the world. i could never just go on livestream in front of so many people perfectly fine and talk about it, all energetic and fine.
i am so sorry for the thing that has happened to you, and i agree with you %100 i hope you can heal💕
Freshly 18 sounds like a porn title
A very messed up one apparently
thats what aba said
Why do you know it sounds like that
It very likely is.
Real category uh I mean
She lied so hard the bros india accent slipped out...
time stamp?
@@jagroopahluwalia 22:54 i guess
jEaZuZ cHrIzT bRo
@@Hmms8eh82j8s LMAOOOO
“I don’t want this for clout, I don’t wanna be followed cause I’m a victim, also, thanks for the twitch donation!”
I'm a victim of CSA(I was eleven). She's kinda pissing me off right now because 1. You were eighteen (Counter Argument: you were drunk, which is in fact wrong to take advantage of) 2. I feel like this could've easily been handled by authorities, like- what is us, a bunch of already mentally ill teenagers and preteens going to do for you? Hardly any of us are adults, and I think you already know that! and 3. It honestly feels like she's just doing this to drive away from the fact that her friends were irresponsible with her. They shouldn't have let her do that, and what both SHE and HER FRIENDS did with drinking is illegal in the US. I'm surprised she hasn't been charged with that (not that I'm wishing that upon her.)
And one thing I want to clarify to people in the comments saying "she looks too happy for a SA victim" yeah, well, the other day, I was explaining to one of my friends as vividly as I could the CSA incident because I've never told ANYONE my side of the story, and have been victim blamed to this day over it, and when I did, I felt a rollercoaster of emotions, swinging from on the verge of tears and choking on laughter because it's a coping mechanism.
She wrote that script, read from it, and it's entirely deliberate with what the wording she used was.
I'm not going to attack her directly and say she just wants to ruin his career, but I genuinely think that her friends (which have been claimed to not like him many MANY times) are trying to do it THROUGH her. Whether it was by standing off to the side and letting her be attacked by him (if that's how it was), building up a story a setting them up so he seems like a predator because of her age in comparison to the group, writing the script for her or helping her with it, all whilst taking advantage of the fact that she's female, young, and a content creator. And that's what pisses me off the most.
edit: the fact she has the sub goal in the top left corner along with the followers goal- IT CHANGES. EVERY. GOD. DAMN. STREAM. AND SHE'S DOING IT ON PURPOSE. LIKE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK??? I WOULD'VE LOVE TO HAVE GOTTEN THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WHEN I WAS FUCKING SA'D FIVE YEARS AGO??? LET ALONE, HAVE PEOPLE BE WILLING TO SUPPORT ME
I COULDN'T EVEN GET THE DAMN POLICE INVOLVED, AND SHE HAS A WHOLE ASS PARADE!
God forbid I hear the phrase ‘believe all women’ invading my ears again
We cant believe all anyone because people lie. Not just women, but any supposed victims can be just making things up
Who TF say that?
I ain’t believing shit anymore
believe all
"believe all women" sounds so much like a mobster saying: "heeeeey you can trust me, i'm your friend" before offing you
True victims of SA don't smile and get excited telling their experience, its traumatic it ain't a happy experience
Facts 1000000%
What she's doing is called "duping delight."
Smiling or laughing can be a traumatic response, but if you look at the way Caiti does this, you can clearly see it's not the case here. Plus, when she told her story for the first time she was crying, but now she smiles and smirks - that's how you know she's lying and tries to play a character.
@@Kruk1vna props to you for acknowledging that this isn't the case here
True, but what is sad is that people like her make it hard to see if anyone is actually telling the truth or just making it up.
As someone who’s actually been sexually assaulted I find her “story” SO insulting bro 😭
Me too 😭😭😭 when it happened I was 11
Right? Holy shit
Did she get her logic from a cereal box?
LOLLLL😂😂😂😂😂 good one broski!!
she was smiling so hard at the start like if people didn’t believe my own abuse story i wouldn’t be smiling i’d be crying like the other times people didn’t believe me 💀
nervous smiling/laughter exists, but that isn't it
@@ViddyOJamesyeah
She learned how to fake cry from Amber Heard.
We need to get Camille Vasquez on this woman
fr
don't bring amber heard into this, amber was a victim
@@mais33333 Of her own lies yeah.
@@mais33333 😂😂😂
I've regretted several sexual encounters in my life, but I didn't know how to say no and I had issues I'm still working on to this day.
*Just because I felt violated doesn't mean they violated me, I clearly consented so it's on me.*
I don't get how you can blame the other person for your own internal struggles that they can't know unless you tell them.
I honestly have had experiences with girls where I've been like I wish I talked with them more before a sexual encounter but we more just ploughed through with the sex. I felt in hindsight we might have gotten more out of talking, but i felt like i might have spoiled an oppurtunity...and ended up feeling a bit empty when all we got was just the sex.
Previous generations didn't ask each other about consent and we just dealt with our own stuff...surely there's some midground to be had between instincts and conversation with sex to avoid the horrible stuff on both extremities.
Notice the difference between Shelby’s true and honest statement versus her fake clout chasing one
You mean the 18 yo kid Shelby who provided no picture to back her “severe biting” story up? They are both pick me girls
I'm a 51yo female, no one knows what " un comfort " would feel like. She needs to never be invited anywhere again. What a damn joke.
Would that not be someone who is uncomfortable in a situation 🤔
.... you don't know the word "uncomfortable" ?
Yo whatsup grandma.
@@jroxspone I think OP is referencing 'uncomfort' isn't a word but it's actually discomfort. 'Un-' would be in 'uncomfortable'
@@Gringle9coolguy "uncomfort" is not a word 😅
Someone who is uncomfortable is an... uncomfortable person.
Freshly 18? Most people are so excited to be 18 and finally be considered an adult. What’s the attempt to seem like she’s almost underage when she is in fact an adult. Weird.
As someone in this age group, I can assure you that many of us are NOT remotely excited to turn 18 and be ‘considered an adult’. There is literally nothing good about it at all. In fact, with every year that passes as we approach 18, a lot of us mourn rather than celebrate our birthdays. Moreover, the line between adolescence and adulthood isn’t so clear cut. For some time before the 70s, ppl didn’t become legal adults until age 21. Even now, everyone’s social, physical, and psychological development is different. The brain doesn’t reach full development until age 24 or 25, and I rlly can’t think of another scientific (factual rather than legal or social) basis for determining adulthood. Legal or social adulthood is meaningless, because there was a time when 14yo was considered adult. Most of us won’t feel like adults as long as we are still TEENagers and not yet independent. True adulthood must coincide with maturity, responsibility, and independence.
So it doesn’t surprise me that this girl said ‘freshly 18’ and still felt this way. Does adulthood happen overnight? One day, you are a ‘child’, and a few minutes later, you automatically transform into an adult? That makes no sense. It is a gradual transition- either it is true that barely legal/almost underage is a real phenomenon, or almost legal/barely underage (at 17) would be. I have a theory about people who deny the former (they’re predatory creeps). That said, age is never an excuse for this sort of act, and it does seem as if she is using age, among other things, disingenuously to gain sympathy and to portray herself as a victim. I do not defend her by any means.
@@a.r.7885something I’ve been thinking about that correlates to that is like, if you think that turning 18 doesn’t mean you’re an adult (which I agree, it’s not an overnight thing that just happens), then shouldn’t the age of consent and adulthood be moved? But then if we move it up people will still use the same “barely legal” concept right?
I’m sorry I’m not great at explaining my thoughts but basically what’s the point of having a “legal” age for these types of things (sexual wise) if it’s disregarded and treated as a creepy thing when those people get involved with adult things. Like there are creeps that prey on eighteen year olds because they’re right at the mark but wouldn’t those people still be around even if the age got brought up to like say 19?
This doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with this specific topic it’s just more of a thought.
It’s neither here nor there because “freshly 18” is still 18. All that unnecessary (and frankly creepy) wording did was tip her hand, and it got a lot harder to take her story seriously before it even got started.
And the fact that she was basically 18 and a half really shows how much of a liar she is
And the fact that she was basically 18 and a half really shows how much of a liar she is
She lied about being freshly 18. She said it was a typo and meant she was freshly out of high school - but then she repeated the "freshly 18" point later in her allegations AGAIN with no mention of high school?
The fact she isn’t looking at the camera is very telling. Shes obviously reading something off screen
She has a smile that says: „There Are No Laws Against Pokémon, Batman!“
PFTTTTT!!
WAIT JOKER DON'T DO IT!!!
@@seraphinax20I'M GONNA DO IT BATMAN!!!
@@blacklion4110 WAIT JOKER DON'T DO IT!!!
We need to normalize canceling false accusers and force anyone thats taken their side to apologize
It is though
bro cancel culture is so dumb just ignore and move on
@@blueCSD on god
That seems like a dumb idea. Cancelling works on bigger creators works because they have their followings to lose but allegations can be made anonymously and also tend to come from smaller creators if they're not made anonymously.
Way more trouble than it's worth and why dig on a guy for being on the wrong side of history?
My toilet visits are more important than social media dwellers 😆
Am I the only one who noticed she was drunk at 18 during this party. The only boundary breaker I’m seeing is her, meaning she’s unlawfully drinking since the limit is 21 years old
Broo I just noticed that, she is leagally under aged drinking bro I support george :)
We all do drink under-age and we sure aren't that naive at 18 as to cuddling etc, surely.
Caiti downplaying her lies is a fucking insult to every fucking SA victim in existence
As a SA victim I don't smile when I'm telling my story, I haven't even told my parents since years that it happened
I hope you get well soon, i have no idea what happened to you, i hope that you heal completely...
fr, I was acc to scared to even talk about it to my own friends so my parents and family don’t have a clue it happened.
Same, It happened when I was 13, I’m 27 now and never told any friends or family member.
@@Riesan111 it happened this year and I’m still 13
@@Riesan111 i hope you are doing well, and that-that past pain is not withholding you from a plenteous future, i hope you are blessed, and i wish you well in life.
She maybe be outta high school but still acts like she’s in 9th grade. Also one of my friends is a SA victim and she was sickened by this woman.
im sorry for your friend, and her faking such a horrible event is actually disgusting
@@AfterHourswAdriana she has gotten better over the years and she is now living on her own with a good stable job.
Oh my…I hope your friend is ok 😔
Hope there doing well@@deadweight194
@@tiantian6226 thank you and she is doing well
Man if I took a shot for every time she used the word assault in a sentence, I would get alcohol poisoning.
On a more serious note, the few people that have entrusted me with their story of SA never actually called it an SA or accentuated it as an SA when they talked about the events themselves. They became distant, talked about it as if it didn't happen to them , ocassionally had a nervous chuckle or self depricated themselves and berated themselves for not being able to protect themselves in these situations.
They didn't smile consistently through talking about it and they didn't try to make others believe them. They just went this is my story, I feel safe enough to tell it to you, I get it if you abandon me after this cause I would too. And that shame and certainty of abandonment is both heartbreaking and terrifying. It's not whatever that kinda vid is.
As a SA/R@P3 survivor I can tell you rn she's lying. Any victim of a s3x crime is typically very uncomfortable telling the story. It feels very embarrassing and degrading to verbally recall to people, let alone the entire internet, that you were taken advantage of. It's a full on admittance of how vulnerable you were. Not only this but most "victims" (like myself) hate being called victims, especially if we've come to terms with the fact it wasn't our fault. We usually refer to ourselves as survivors or warriors, because these experiences cause a mass and deep internal amount of damage to us mentally. It's a lot to live with. I was one of those many women who suffered with PTSD from my experiences and still have recurring nightmares sometimes. It's been 10 years, I'm married with a baby, and yet I'm still extremely uncomfortable around the majority of men I encounter and am around on a daily basis. It took me roughly seven months to finally be able to tell my partner what happened to me, and it took me almost 2 years to tell my parents what happened after it had taken place. It's not easy to talk about, and someone being too comfortable discussing is almost always a sign they're lying.
I have been watching these situations from afar, and I have never really believed the "false allegation" narrative until now. That part where she rants about how "touching is still assault" is one of the most terrifying things I have ever heard. If I was a young man right now, I dont see how you could ever make a move on anybody ever without serious risk.
She said that unwanted sexual touch is sexual assault. You can touch someone without it being assault, especially if they want/ask for it. Hope that clears it up.
@@bigdreamer7until they decide after that they change their mind
@@bigdreamer7 you really didn’t clear up anything you’re just kind of being a captain obvious buddy. Where is the line between the two? That’s the important part cause you can touch somebody’s knee and they can claim it with sexual, so where’s the line.
OK I actually started to watch this video. She claims he touched her boobs that would be sexual assault. She should’ve said that in the beginning though, like how the hell do you leave that out and expect me to take you seriously. This feels like a scripted act.
i cant believe im saying this but i think its part of the war on cisgen males
The thing about spontaneous sexual activity is it’s kind of a gray zone and if you talk about it in detail and don’t ignore the reality of these situation that we all have been (or have never) been apart of if your making out with someone there’s territory for touching to take place if something uncomfortable happens say hey that was uncomfortable I’m not gonna continue this rather then saying I’ve just been graped boundaries and communication is the most important part because the reality is we arnt sitting down going through everything that is or isn’t permitted in any sexual interaction you can do that but it removes any spontaneity not that that’s the most important aspect of the interaction but it’s something that’s there in most cases
I was pretending to be asleep at a house party once where a girl kept trying to kiss me (she didnt know i was pretending, so to her i was asleep) and kept trying to wake me up for me to tell other people it was ok for her to sleep in my bed with me...if the roles were reversed and i did that to a drunk girl who was sleeping, I'd be crucified. But no one cared when i told them a woman had been doing that to me
What she did was completely wrong and disgusting. Any person, regardless of gender, should suffer the max consequences for that. In other words, she should have received the same treatment as if the roles were reversed, because consent should apply to everyone. It’s really sad that people don’t believe victims or ignore their experiences bc of their gender.
Fr tho, girls get away with too many things that guys would get canceled and shunned forever for. Anyone who doesn’t get what I mean should search up “girls prank vs guys prank” and they will understand what I mean
i was sa’d my dude. this shit makes me so fucking MAD.
Him or her
@@Mychael.. I think they're mad at her
im 13 and its literally common sense in a situation where your cuddling for an hour to say i dont wanna do this, shes 18 your old enough to know whats wrong and right i hate all these fake cancels who wanna ruin someone so they bring up the fact that oh their 18 as if its not.. old and grown
i am an SA victim and i told the first person about it 2 years later. i cried so much, even then i had to go to therapy. till this day i STILL cry about the same situation. watching caiti lie actually makes me so mad. good video, keep going w the great content
I'm so sorry to hear that happened to you :(
ive never understood why some people want to be a victim sooo much. is it to gain attention? to find a group of people to try to fit in and relate to? for clout? to be liked and find a sense of belonging? idk but if you were to actually experience it, you wouldnt want to tell anyone. youd feel ashamed. its so sad truly. even if its not possible, i pray that you lose every single ounce of pain you feel every time you think of it. youre very strong and im glad you felt comfortable to tell someone and get therapy rather than letting it eat you up for the rest of your life. i hope the culprit rots. im so sorry.
@@gulliver2.0 thank you so much! didnt expect anyone to answer like that. just wanted to say my opinion on this. thank you for being so nice tho:)
I did the same thing, didn't even tell my own family for years. Told my therapist 3 years after it happend, I have diagnosed PTSD after what he did to me. I even lied to the hospital staff when they were about to operate on my fucking vagina. This infuriates me so much.
@@NeamiGaming im so sorry for you. i hope youll feel better soon 🫶
Even if he did touch her tits which is questionable given the way she conveniently left that part out initially, rape has a very specific definition: "Rape is a type of sexual assault involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without their consent". Touching tits without consent is not rape it would be sexual assault. It’s sad that practically the whole minecraft community instantly took her side on this without any question. Shes making it harder for real victims to come forward because they fear they won't be believed...
I agree.
Well, let's be fair here the dream crew did kinda give into these people who make false accusations making them easier targets for this sort of stuff.
I agree but its still stupid af@@booleah6357
@@booleah6357 Yeah I feel bad for them but they keep making stupid decisions and apologizing for the dumbest things. If they can't help themselves then how are we suppose to care. Wish they were more like Jschlatt or KSI. Doesn't matter if you don't like them but they just ignore people trying to cancel them and it dies out..
@@ninjaredfirehot And there really needs to be more pushback on this sort of stuff or it will embolden these false accusers. That's how society ended up in the current situation because everyone keeps kow towing to these crazy people who just want to destroy others for 15 minutes of fame.
Did anyone notice that she was somewhat reading something un her desk?
my goodness. im a 14 year old girl. i watch vids like these to learn how to avoid being anything like ppl like her. my god shes crazy.
as a real sa victim this girl makes me fucking sick.
Omg sorry that you’re a victim
All the stupid fake sa allegations and it keeps happening over and over again omg
@myfavcosmo very true
@@myfavcosmowhat is the correlation..?? “Oh ur a male- therefore ur a liar”??
@@myfavcosmoMan what do you want them to do?? Send you screenshots? 😭
Analysing her body language: she's blinking a LOT, shaking her head as she speaks, increased breath rate and utilising her hands a lot are all signs of lying. Lying invokes anxiety which is why liars display this body language.
This is so stupid.
Another thing is that she often avoids facing the camera directly
holy ill be honest you guys might have a career as a detective
fr I could already tell those are some extra expressions
yes but no, liars all display different signs. I still think she's lying.
This girl is just an insult to people who have been SA in the past, and let’s not forget that her lies have been ruining the life of an innocent person
Nahhhh hear me out y'all- if she was actually crying in her first stream, her eyes would've been red, her face would be scrunched up, her voice didn't break, and her facial expressions were overexaggerated asf. She really thought she acted well with that dumb fake crying 💀💀
Yeah and yet some people can't diffrientitate between a person crying from a person that has water on her cheeks 😂
As a woman I’ve noticed a lot of women try to pull this crap. They think because they like a dude at first and get all cute with him and then they’re disappointed because he’s not as good as they thought he would be they rather say they were assaulted/graped because they didn’t like it (disappointed)
Being assaulted/graped is not the freakin same as yikes that guy wasn’t as good as I thought he would be and now I have the ick
Doesn’t matter if you’re male or female, we’ve all been disappointed by that person we thought we liked
This seriously needs to be discussed more because yes it’s important ppl understand what SA is, but a lot of ppl are starting to blur the lines and ruin ppls lives
Wow. So those women just go about their days pretending they're not gross? Interesting...
The rating system is mad these days.
0-10
10 being amazing.
0 being so bad, it's worth reporting as SA rather than forgetting it ever happened like a normal person.
It's because society threats women like children and many enjoy it that way. for example: if I go to a party to have some drinks and I meet a drunk women and pay her some more drinks. we end up in a hotel room. next day she can go to the police and file a rape allegation. and no matter if she wins or not a mans life will be destroyed. society doesn't expect from women to function drunk. Men have though. So when a man and a woman get drunk and anything happens the woman didn't like or will not like in the future it was abuse by the man.
@@Dondizlethe type of women she knows are bizarre. Not entertaining behaviour like that should prevent coming across ppl like that
She wasn't just dissapointed in him. He was dissapointed in her. Here's a recap of the events:
She's supposedly being assaulted even tho they've been playing with each other, cuddling with each other, and tickling each other for an hour straight. Anyways, he tickles her and at worst puts a hand on her waist, while they are ALREADY touching (Cuddling doesn't mean they are just sitting next to each other, it's pretty intimate). She is laughing and not caring. "BuT SHE DIDNT CONSENT!!!" Ok? If she felt uncomfortable, maybe the several times she got up to drink more alc or to go to the bathroom would have given her an opportunity to leave him. But no, she sits right back and continues where she left off.
"She's still a victim, Silence is not consent!" At what point is consent still required? You've been intimate for an hour, touching each other for an hour. Smiling, laughing at each other. Playing games. But disregard all this. Forget it. If you were being abused, why wouldn't you leave with your friends when they leave? Why would you stay there? You're not in fight flight freeze because you're not 'flighting' or 'freezing' You're getting up only to come back and cuddle with him.
But ok, she supposedly got abused that night... SO THEN WHY DO YOU INITIATE A TEXT WITH YOUR ABUSER THE DAY AFTER THE INCIDENT? Why DO YOU START FLIRTING WITH YOUR ABUSER? FOR WHAT REASON??? And she flirts with him back n forth for a month until he ghosts her / rejects her... To which the story turns from awkward flirting between the two -> abuse
You know she not serious from how much she’s smiling about such a serious topic
FACTS
Fax
i got 😂😂😂 sexualy asualtet 😂😂
Imagine the amount of men that are accused by women like this but don’t have the platform to tell their side and show proof. They’re convicted predators for something that never happened, some even in prison and never released. The lucky ones that do get “justice” are released after spending 20+ years in prison for a lie told by a conniving bitter woman
I would roast her but I honestly can't compete with that "he didn't feel my uncomfort because he was too busy feeling something else"
As a Asexual myself, i physically cringed when she said she was one too after straight facts being thrown in her face saying she engaged in it.
shes literally grasping for straws here, has passed the point of no return obviously
yeah, by the time I'd realized I was ace, I actively avoided getting into any potentially risque situations. I like cuddling here and there but I'm not dumb enough to put myself on the spot like that. all I can think is either she's making up the bit about being ace or she's just severely lacking in maturity and social awareness, and truly believes she was SA's when in fact she just allowed herself to go further than she was internally comfortable with. Which is NOT SA. And she has an enormous amount of learning and growing to do.
there needs to be mroe people like you
? She's not that old she could've discovered after the event. I know plenty of ace people that were in a shitty sexual situation before discovering they were ace. Why the fuck we arguing labels rn?
@@endieend129 yeah but if she discovered after, it's regret, not abuse (assuming the rest was in line with that)
I thought the Johnny Depp case taught us something. Apparently I was wrong
lol but you have to admit she is still a better actor the amber turd
Yeah it taught us to hate women, and that only "perfect victims" will be heard
Exactly!
God forbid someone mention kwite
@@DarkNinja-bf6hkor Slazo, or Pyrocynical, or SuperMega, or even Dream himself
You didn’t have to go an an anti-queer rant at the end…
fr, changed my Like to a Dislike because of that
Aww man no way he did that I liked Pegasus :((((
Like 😭😭😭
crazy that no one else in the comments is saying stuff about that though... i wouldnt want to be alone in the same room w anyone from this comment section ngl 🤷
@@vlxqqu fr
"open your yapping ass mouth" that was very uncalled for, not defending her but some people cant even speak up out of fear or shock.
you know what liars do ? changing stories so that it paints them as innocents.
And not make eye contact. She doesn't look into the camera, which makes her seem so disingenuous.
@@lizthedisjointedzebra692 prob reading chat
and fake cry for pity points
@@ayamehachimitsu the entire time, though? And if I were making a video like that, talking about something so serious, I wouldn't be worried about reading the chat. It just seems so bizarre that she barely glanced at the camera, let alone made actual eye contact.
@@lizthedisjointedzebra692 idk pretty normal for streamers, she should of just made a video with fleshed out thoughts, not live
You ever cringe so much that you get goosebumps? That just happened to me. Was she auditioning for a play?
Because if she was she is NOT going to get that part.
yeah the smirking made me revolt violently couldnt even look at it god damn
Her expressions, the way she moves, her manner of speech, in addition to the absolute bull crap she’s spewing out her mouth, I’ve never felt such disgust. This is quite mean to say, but I genuinely feel repugnance when I look at her.
Holy shit, "i'm asexual due to my bad experiences" and last video she said she never had someone touch her.... HUH???
Never had anyone touch her before George, yes. That was like a year ago, she could've had more than one bad sexual experience over that time. You are also massively oversimplifying her statement.
@@endieend129 ? she's using the fact that she was already ace at the time as 'evidence' she wouldn't have consented. So she's talking about being ace before it happened.
@@endieend129 ur the most sane person in this comment section istg, everyone here has legit 0 empathy or understanding its insaneeee
@@vlxqqu It's almost like people don't like it when you lie about sa.
she didn't want to take legal action because she'll loose
George had to clear why his subs were on and all money goes to charity.
On the contrary here we see her shamelessly keeping on donations and having text to speech for donos.
She is just attacking George to get clout we see her real personality in this stream
She also said she was freshly 18 twice in the first stream like what does she want from this whole situation
She also scripted what she was saying on the first stream. If she was just getting her thoughts out unscripted then whatever ig, but she was literally reading a script off her phone. Like, you seriously cant fact check your own script before streaming?? She was also both vague and descriptive about what happened. It just seems like she regrets having been affectionate with George and at some point decided she wanted to use what happened to gain clout by manipulation the events that really took place.
@@trualphafox9404that tells you how unserious she and the Twitter mob views sexual assault allegations
She has a consistent tell called "duping delight" where you smirk when you think youre getting away with your fib. She does it tonnes. It's not proof, but it's something to pay attention to along with her other many red flags.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed.
Saw this in another comment too. Glad there's an actual term for it. Cause yeah being this indulgent with it and adding new "info" is wild and it's something you see so much with other liars of SA.
The septum ring was the only red flag I needed
@PhawnixAndJewel in the 90s a septum piercing meant great s3x and decent taste in music. Now it means intersectional whackjob
@@someguy-sq5omthat's subjective. Back in the 90s some of the worst lays I ever had were with chick with septum rings and dark clothes. It was and still is my type but definitely not all of them are good lays. The music part is subjective too but in that area I agree
Her throwing in the ace card is like a dude saying he's gay after being rejected, everyone hears it and just goes: no you're not, you're trying to make yourself look better
That girl is bad actor, she is constantly smurging
Jack Doherty ahh acting:
From crying in the first video, to smiling in this video is sociopathic behavior.
facts
george should honestly just sue her for slander and defamation
"It's not a fake allegation"
So in other words what she said is just a real allegation? So what does that say about what actually happened?
Nothing that's the answer.
I think she feels like she got assaulted now because she regrets being intimate with him and letting it progress to where it did. If youre cuddling with a guy for an hour... expect it to escalate... if it does and you dont want it you open your mouth and tell them to stop. If it doesnt stop you push him away and move... if he forces you then its sexual assault.
Repeat after me: Regretting a sexual encounter does not make it SA
it’s clear that she’s mad at him for dropping her as soon as he found out she was 18. now she’s coming online with these allegations to get his attention
"if you're cuddling with a guy for an hour expect it to escalate"
this "boys will be boys" mentality is SO unhealthy and damaging. cuddling (which she said in her video that she saw as completely platonic) does NOT equal consent. smiling does NOT equal consent. wearing certain types of clothes does NOT equal consent. not saying anything also does. not. equal. consent. the only thing that equals consent is an affirmative yes on both ends which as both people have stated DID NOT HAPPEN. therefore it was assault.
also, saying just push him away is just fucking stupid. not only did he hold social and occupational power over her, it was also in front of people. and she was drunk. there are so many factors, it isn't just black and white. and it's never as easy to say "just push him away" or "just tell him no".
@@Autumnnn_017 I think the "not saying no doesn't mean yes" thing can be used for literally everyone who ever had sex though. That doesn't add up
@@Autumnnn_017 Girllll 💀 don’t EVER try to excuse someone’s behavior just because they were drunk. That’s like defending a guy who beats on his wife whenever he gets blackout drunk, if you were responsible enough to take that sip of alcohol then you are responsible for the consequences that comes with it ESPECIALLY knowing that you’re not of age to drink. Second of all George was drinking as well & from what I’ve researched he must’ve been more drunk than her because Caiti only started drinking when she reached at the party (was confirmed by her friend who went with her) & George was already drinking way before that (still doesn’t excuse their behavior). Thirdly I don’t know if this is a me thing or if anybody else does it but I personally don’t cuddle people I only know for a couple of hours & I don’t cuddle with guys & expect it to be platonic when we were both being flirty with each other. This girl literally had been flirting back & forth with him while they were cuddling & you say that it’s assault if he put his hand on her stomach?? She’s a different type of b**** to not only lead on someone that she was so ‘uncomfortable’ with but then go on the internet a few months later to ‘expose’ him rather than go to police. It just seems to me that when he found out she was 18 & ghosted her, she somehow took offense to that & now is retaliating by trying to ruin his career over a MUTUAL cuddle session. The thing that Caiti doesn’t understand is when you turn 18 you’re legally an adult whether you like it or not & the way she tried to make George out as if he was a p3do when she referred to herself in her original stream as ‘freshly’ 18 then backtracks in her latest stream basically saying that she didn’t mean to say ‘freshly 18’ but ‘freshly out of high school’ WHEN SHE LITERALLY MADE THE TALKING POINTS HERSELF! you can see her reading off of it! That girl is such a loser & a pick me & it’s females like her that are making it harder for actual victims to be taken seriously.
Regretting what you did with someone is NOT assault. WOW
Ty so much for addressing the huge problem with false SA allegations. It is so disrespectful to real victims of SA. We already have a hard time with people believing us. This is absolutely making it harder for real victims. And it makes SA basically a joke.
I don't like to talk about my SA. I cannot imagine sitting on live in front of subs chatting away discussing my SA with such glee. Even though it's been yrs ago & I've had therapy, I can't imagine telling strangers about something so traumatic that happened to me. I went to the police & they ended up pleading guilty to a very lesser charge that I had no say so about. If this person here went to the police they would laugh at her.
There is such a thing as implied consent. If you & the guy are both under the influence & you flirt, cuddle, get up & come back, allow him to touch you, that is sending him signals that you enjoy what is happening. He is not a mind reader so how is he supposed to know if you don't speak up. I couldn't tell you the times I've told guys "Not so fast" or "don't do that" or something similar. That isn't comparable in any way to my previous SA. I promise Caiti or whatever that she does not want to experience real SA. It is burned into your mind forever. And there is no mistake in your mind to make you decide months later you might have been SA'd.
Sorry for the long post but you don't know how much I appreciate your video & the fact you are speaking up for real victims ❤
So we need to be rude in order to get people to stop? I'm a victim too, and I have a lot of anxiety denying someone, it shows in my face I don't like it, people dont need a degree for empathy, its built in genes. People are so out of touch or reallity that they think that you have to fight to get away. But they dont even get the fear of being in the same situation. You might had a bad time, and you might be a victim, but that doesnt mean you experience needs to be exact to others. Also there are people that arent afraid of talking about a situation they had.
Oh and btw, this man talked a lot of bs in the video, things that reminded me of my SA. I hope you get that talking about victims in our name is disrespectful.
the way she keeps smiling throughout the whole thing 😭 mad creepy
As a woman, I feel like it’s absolutely horrible now, women will say ANYTHING, true or not, against any male, and will ALWAYS be believed. It’s frustrating because they will go against any popular person online, make up the craziest of allegations and post it on Twitter. In my opinion, if you genuinely are a victim of sexual assault, take it to COURT. Not fucking Twitter. You don’t need to involve the entire internet and make unnecessary drama.
Clout and vindictiveness are one hell of a drug sadly…
Doesn’t help when women have A LOT of power when it comes to the law since they are always perceived as the victims and us as the monsters…
@@no_0riginality937 That is very true. My boyfriend studies the Canadian law, and it is stated that woman will most likely have lessened sentences compared to men, which is absolutely ridiculous. Doesn’t help when the entirety of the internet constantly shits on men, for literally anything. And it’s also acceptable to say stuff like « kill all men », or doing stupid acts like breaking someone’s car after being cheated on? If a man were to do the same to a woman, we’d never hear the end of it. But when a woman does it to a man, it never matters.
Society for you.