DON'T Build a Spray Booth

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  • čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
  • I wasn't as happy with the result as I though I would be.
    Advantage: shop has no overspray.
    Disadvantage: still got dust in the paint, and my lungs aren't loving it - even using a supplied air system.
    There might still be a better way....
    Previous Video: • BUILD a Spray Booth
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Komentáře • 145

  • @GregWellwood
    @GregWellwood  Před rokem +24

    Exciting update: Regulator at the gun is faulty, and was providing too much working pressure. Probably explains the overspray. My inexperience in painting didn't pick this up.

    • @Swampyssidehustlehobbyshop
      @Swampyssidehustlehobbyshop Před rokem +4

      Massive amounts of overspray is visibly noticeable. I imagine the paint was drying before it hit the work surface due to too much air pressure coming out of the spray nozzle. You should be using two regulators. one at the compressor set ten PSI greater than the actual working pressure at the spray gun 22 PSI is usually adequate pressure for an LVLP spray gun.

    • @rob12449
      @rob12449 Před 4 měsíci +2

      thought was in my head seeing the filters that you must have had a lot of overspray.

  • @derekcraig3617
    @derekcraig3617 Před rokem +24

    So you choose the wrong ventilation system for your inadequate booth. And that's the reason why I shouldn't build a booth... Thanks, teach. I'll just build a positive pressure booth.

  • @944tim
    @944tim Před rokem +16

    if you can smell it, you have been overexposed.

  • @grimson
    @grimson Před 9 dny

    I built a positive pressure booth and it worked great - but I still needed to wet sand and buff, because I wanted a completely flat surface. So if you’re going to be doing that anyway, you may as well do it with your garage door wide open, or even outside (being considerate of your neighbors, of course. I’m on an isolated property and don’t have any). I had to repaint the front bumper this year after it accumulated a bunch of rock chips. I did it outside and it was a million times easier, with no cloud of clear coat hanging around my head. Yes I had a bunch of dust and trash, but it wet sanded right out.

  • @nostalgiaaeroworks121
    @nostalgiaaeroworks121 Před rokem +23

    I paint airplanes for a living. You're a lucky guy. I know...because I didn't get smart in time and woke up in the hospital. I'll give you and your followers a few tips, and hopefully will save some illness. If you look on the ingredient list of the catalyst, it will give 4 letters that you want to watch for....CYAN. When ever you see this, there is some form of cyanide in the catalyst. Like you said, cyanide is attracted to water and we're mostly water. It's a cumulative chemical, meaning that once in, it doesn't just leave your body, it's there and staying. So even if you didn't get sick one time, you might the next. I was young and bullet proof until I wasn't. The absolute most dangerous time for that catalyst is when you're mixing. You're introducing a pure catalyst and the cyanide is what is called a free radical at that point. Once it's introduced to the paint, it's a tiny bit better, but no where near safe. It's going to attack you in your soft tissues easiest, eyes, nose, mouth, groin, armpits, etc, but anywhere there's perspiration is like a magnet. Among other things, one of the places it attacks the most effectively is your central nervous system. The day after, as you have shown, that paint is still outgassing and you're going to be exposed again, so that's one reason you didn't feel so hot. When I wound up in the hospital I was told that I was done painting, but I've found that with the proper care, I can shoot waterborne polyurethane and that's what I use exclusively now, and have been teaching for the past 25 years. However, I can still taste it when I walk into my paint booth pretty much any time. When I know I'm going to be painting, I'm eating vitamin E like candy for a couple days prior and after....it helps a little.
    As far as filters and such, a positive pressure booth is the easiest to keep contaminants down in, but one thing I suggest is to ground the part electrically to a good earth ground. I've almost eliminated my dust and contaminant issues by doing that. If you think about it, all your sanding creates a static charge on the part, and even just the paint being sprayed out the gun creates a small static charge. If you're exhausting into fresh air, a simple water sprinkler is one of the best filters, in more ways than one! You don't necessarily want to expose pets or other people to the cyanide derivatives. The fresh air breather is a must, and you have a good setup there. No regular mask will take care of the cyanide of the concentration that is found in a solvent borne paint.
    So remember, cover up completely and live a lot longer. Very good video and I thank you for sharing!! I'll be using this in my paint classes from now on, if you don't mind!

    • @lindalary7760
      @lindalary7760 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Thank you for taking the time to warn us!!!👏🙏

    • @RealLife73
      @RealLife73 Před 17 dny

      Wow, I’m glad I came across this comment before starting my project.

  • @mikehill1613
    @mikehill1613 Před rokem +7

    Appreciate the honest summary of your experience. I’m with you. Paint outside on a nice day and be happy with the dust’ bugs and imperfections. I vote for better health and ok paint jobs.,,😊😊

  • @joshualong7517
    @joshualong7517 Před rokem +4

    I can relate and hope you recover.
    I had a scare after using a rattle can of Rustoleum laquer for a couple minutes without a mask to spray some bookshelf speakers I was building.
    A half hour later my heart raced up to about 110 beats for a couple hours and I was short of breath.
    Told my wife I might need to go to the ER if my BP was high. Borrowed a BP cuff from a friend and it was fine.
    Slept it off mostly, but my heartbeat was heavy (likely premature ventricular contractions) for the next day.
    Needless to say, I'm masked up for all spray projects now.

  • @poduck2
    @poduck2 Před rokem +10

    Screw the neighbors. Let them be yellow.
    I tend to just cover the stuff I can't take out of my garage with plastic, and then spray down as many surfaces with water that I can. Especially the floor. I then turn on my exhaust fan and cross my fingers. Overall, it works great. I still get a few bits of dust, but those disappear with color sanding. The water helps keep overspray from from sticking permanently, as well as keeps dust down.

  • @james263
    @james263 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Glad I watched this. I had been thinking about trying to get a set up for spraying but this has convinced me to just pay someone else to do it and save my lungs and a whole bunch of money. I wish there were more videos on youtube of people saying not to do things as I already have way too many things to do and not enough time to do them in, so thank you!

  • @jamespolucha8790
    @jamespolucha8790 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Wow I didn’t realize how much paint those filters catch, man I’ve sprayed stuff not even wearing a mask, I’ve spent so much money just buying everything to do a few paint jobs on some motorcycles and I don’t have a paint booth just plastic sheets and a BS little fan, but your right it’s not worth it with everything that can harm you and all the money trying to get everything you need, I’m going to take my stuff to the painters, just not worth the risk, thanks so much for this video, take care be safe

  • @williambasinger5859
    @williambasinger5859 Před rokem +7

    It is tough, I worked with epoxy resins to the point I am allergic to the anamines found in epoxy systems. So I avoid uncurled epoxies at all cost. Even cured epoxy can sometimes have a amines on the surface. I won’t go into the symptoms but it isn’t fun when I have a reaction

  • @johndn9238
    @johndn9238 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thanks for your informative and very honest comments; very useful indeed. Thanks a lot.

  • @jamesmccabe5188
    @jamesmccabe5188 Před rokem +20

    Mask efficiency drops dramatically with beard growth. From memory it was something of the order of 70% drop at 3 days of beard growth

    • @easternarmory7617
      @easternarmory7617 Před 8 měsíci

      I always thought it was hilarious seeing a heavily bearded covidtard walking around with a mask on lol

  • @blainehouser4354
    @blainehouser4354 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Well Dang! I was thinking about doing some small scale painting for a hobby!? Glad I watched this… Moving on now. Thanks for posting!

    • @lucashurley7612
      @lucashurley7612 Před 4 měsíci +1

      NO LOOK AT COMMENTS ITS HIS FAULT! He relised later that he was spraying horribly overpressured and thats why theirs was so muich over spray and instant drying. like painting with a pressure washer. look at the top comment he says so

  • @juanlanda2441
    @juanlanda2441 Před 9 měsíci +3

    The fumes stayed after I sprayed. But I took my mask off when mixing paint . Had dizziness and brain sickness for weeks . I can't stress how important it is to keep the mask on

  • @bradpage8967
    @bradpage8967 Před rokem

    Thank you for the correction!! I was thinking that what you had come up with should work. Good to know, I should stick with outside! Thank you!

  • @MrGsxr10001
    @MrGsxr10001 Před měsícem

    Protect yourself and paint outside, you will never cruzz the miracle mile. Screw the paint job, live long and happy.

  • @adamschewe7166
    @adamschewe7166 Před rokem

    Great video again, and it was a pleasure meeting you today. Cheers from peachland

    • @GregWellwood
      @GregWellwood  Před rokem +1

      Yes! Thanks for saying hello! Your father was my apprenticeship instructor - HUGELY inspired me in everything I do. A pleasure meeting you, his son!

  • @joell439
    @joell439 Před rokem +1

    Great summary making exceptional points. We only get one life and it can be pretty scary when we are exposed to chemicals we thought we had sufficient PPE to protect ourselves against. We pray your health is not permanently affected after this intense exposure. Sometimes it just isn’t worth it. 👍👍

    • @jackheinemann8780
      @jackheinemann8780 Před rokem

      It won't be, theres a diffrence between once in a blue moon exposure and occupational risk. He would have been fine the next day, if not the day after

  • @urbanmacdonald7901
    @urbanmacdonald7901 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Build a water filtration system I did use a 1800 cam explosion proof fan and pull the air from the booth area through a wall of water using 2, 3/4 Hp submersible pumps in a tank that hold 75 to 100 gallons of water the water catches 95 percent of all airborne smell etc. Still using mask though change water every couple weeks

  • @bladder1010
    @bladder1010 Před rokem

    Excellent advice coming from someone who's attempted this. Based on your experience I'd be inclined to take it to a professional paint shop. Sounds like it's worth spending the money on.

  • @designandbuild3953
    @designandbuild3953 Před rokem +3

    Sorry to hear about your experience, truck looked great in the background. Looking forward to seeing your finished project.
    Your channel makes me think of my high school shop teacher, awesome guy! One of those influences in your life you never forget.

  • @peterplouf2836
    @peterplouf2836 Před rokem +3

    You are singing the song of my people. That said, I have one last one I have to get done. NOT doing a booth; plastic liner on the floor and covering everything, but open garage door and filtered air from one end exiting the big door.

  • @randyherring2214
    @randyherring2214 Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks for sharing, found this to be very informative based on experience. After reviewing all the potential health hazards and irreversible side affects I'm going to hire this out.
    As the saying goes "It's cheaper to pay the Butcher than the Doctor".

  • @juanlanda2441
    @juanlanda2441 Před 9 měsíci

    As.for the filters I believe there are some rolls of filter media that may be cheaper than the prepackaged ac filters. But as you I had that idea to build a AC filter box that fits under my garage door . The struggle is real 💯. Also I tried the China inflatable which was too small . Which led me to want to build a paint room one car garage with a similar airflow design .👍

  • @bosshawg7427
    @bosshawg7427 Před rokem +15

    The fresh air hood is a great option plus guaranteed safer. I plan to get one.
    As far as the booth, the biggest mistake for a homemade booth is trying to extract rather than push in filtered air. By pushing air in, you have more control of air quality vs taking a chance of pulling in dist through cracks. The outbound filters need not to be so fine. Booth filter roll type will be more economical and have better air flow. The overspray will be dry by the time it gets past it and out into adjacent areas.
    However, if you already have underlying health issues, then I agree, sub it out.

    • @MisterWroe
      @MisterWroe Před rokem +1

      The way to do it is definitely with negative air pressure. Suck out the inside of the booth but also have an HVAC filter taped into the opposite wall from the extraction. The fresh air that comes in will come through the filter more than any little cracks in the seams.

    • @weekendwarrior3420
      @weekendwarrior3420 Před rokem

      I know nothing about this, but sounds like a great idea. I think too much air movement could be a problem as well. Probably the best combination is the mask that gets fresh air, plus push in some filtered air and give it a good path out.

    • @Swampyssidehustlehobbyshop
      @Swampyssidehustlehobbyshop Před rokem +4

      @@MisterWroe wrong.
      you want a positive pressure booth. positive pressure booth pushes more fresh air into the booth than the pressure that is outside of the booth negative pressure booth will suck dust and contaminants right into the spray booth by the vent fan sucking it into the booth .

  • @canberroo2509
    @canberroo2509 Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks for your honesty :)

  • @mumblbeebee6546
    @mumblbeebee6546 Před rokem

    Goodness - doing it right there and then gives it a rawness that is appropriate but I still wish you had stayed away from the shop for a few more days and rested! I hope your lungs and central nervous system forgive you!
    I am grateful for your video because I just watched Steve Summers spray his truck and some people are indestructible, he must be one of those…
    Onwards, see you soon!

  • @plasmaman9592
    @plasmaman9592 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I don't understand why so many people have a hard time understanding how to extract the fumes to the outside of the shop. Have fresh air come in 1 side and exit the other side. I prefer fresh air from above and extract from below so you don't get covered when standing on a side

  • @stanleyonishi3314
    @stanleyonishi3314 Před rokem +3

    Thank you sooooo much for thinking about everyone's health. Everyone wants to make money on making spraying videos but no one wants to
    Mention the most important thing, safety first. I guess it's not popular, and they are going to lose there followers.
    I had 2 friends pass away from spraying,
    In professional spray booths.

  • @ceesklumper
    @ceesklumper Před 7 měsíci +3

    I built a similar booth from lumber and plastic. I think your mistakes were: (1) not having enough filter surface area, and more importantly, (2) not using special paint booth filters, intake as well as out. I did, I painted 4 cars and had no issues whatsoever, the filters could have easily taken as many more cars. Also, I made it 'positive displacement' meaning I had the shop fan push air in, not suck it out.

    • @Sketchyrooster
      @Sketchyrooster Před 5 měsíci

      Interesting.. I am looking at spray paint filters on rolls... I was thinking of doing a cross draft air compressor in on garage door side high.. and suck in through opposite side at floor and circulate back through round ducting.. not venting outside at all so I could heat and cool booth.. but I have considered just the pressurized set-up.

  • @robt.90ib.bulldog19
    @robt.90ib.bulldog19 Před rokem

    Great info !....I did not know THE PITFALLS....I am reconsidering PAYING SOMEONE ELSE to spray my new dining room chairs....THANKS !

  • @georgebone23
    @georgebone23 Před rokem

    Feel better my friend!

  • @Van-tastic
    @Van-tastic Před rokem +3

    What so many DIYers miss is that booths need to be positive pressure, not negative pressure. You’ll never evacuate sufficiently with suction. And you’ll introduce more dust/dirt through suction

    • @jaxv94
      @jaxv94 Před rokem

      How can you make it positive pressure. I want try this until i can own a shop

    • @timmyturbo69
      @timmyturbo69 Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@@jaxv94 turn the fan round. It needs to be pushed into the booth rather than sucked out.

    • @wmb397
      @wmb397 Před 7 měsíci

      @@timmyturbo69how can you make sure dust doesn’t get sucked from the other way when you turn it around

    • @timmyturbo69
      @timmyturbo69 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@wmb397 any air coming in to the booth, whether through positive or negative pressure should be filtered. In general positive pressure booths make for less dust ingress because there is only 1 source of incoming air so it's easy to control. In a negative pressure environment, dirty air can enter from anywhere there is a leak or when the door is opened etc.

  • @johnquijote7194
    @johnquijote7194 Před rokem +1

    Hope you feel better.

  • @rphenixx
    @rphenixx Před rokem +1

    Gloves - needs to be nitrile apparently with latex Isocyanates can go right through. Overalls need to be disposable plastic covering all exposed skin as Isocyanates go towards moisture and spray painting is a sweaty business.

  • @jackheinemann8780
    @jackheinemann8780 Před rokem +2

    Acrylics are great like that, damn near no risk, if the trucks going to be kept inside theres no reason to not just use a acrylic laquar.

    • @juanlanda2441
      @juanlanda2441 Před 9 měsíci

      Definitely, my next choice will be single stage acrylics .the clears are difficult when you don't have a booth 👍

  • @stevekobb3850
    @stevekobb3850 Před 4 měsíci

    A dose of reality. Many thanks for sharing.

  • @dreastman
    @dreastman Před rokem

    I rarely comment on videos but watching this I kept wondering, would it be better to not have all this airflow and let the particulate settle out in the room? Maybe a slightly positive pressure?

  • @Dancing_Alone_wRentals
    @Dancing_Alone_wRentals Před rokem +1

    Very much enjoyed the down to earth advice. tHanks for the video!
    (As for watching my videos....ehh,.. I suppose if you finish the lawn, the dishes, the roofing the house...and have nothing better to do).

    • @GregWellwood
      @GregWellwood  Před rokem +1

      I liked the railing video (and I'm a bit of Titanic nerd...).

    • @Dancing_Alone_wRentals
      @Dancing_Alone_wRentals Před rokem

      @@GregWellwood Hey! That is a pleasant surprise! tHanks for stopping by!

  • @ninjaknight-jn9ky
    @ninjaknight-jn9ky Před rokem

    Idk if a dyson style hvac piping to help dissipate the paint would help with the filtering

  • @stevesloan6775
    @stevesloan6775 Před 8 měsíci

    Interesting upload.
    I’m considering building a small one that’s the shape of the engine bay I’m currently painting.
    Im using a touch up spray gun so very minimal over spray.
    I’d like to design my booth with high throughput without to much turbulence. I will use standard green booth filter roll.

    • @GregWellwood
      @GregWellwood  Před 8 měsíci

      For an engine bay, I'd totally spray it outside. My truck didn't run at this stage, so I was stuck spraying it inside. Once all the Paint PTSD wears off, I'll likely do this again (because I'm stupid that way).

  • @dannywilsher4165
    @dannywilsher4165 Před rokem +10

    Positive pressure booths work so much better. No dust into booth means no worries about dust. I've been painting cars and numerous other things for decades and I never have to worry about dust in my paint.

    • @Jonathan_Doe_
      @Jonathan_Doe_ Před rokem

      If you’re making a ghetto booth, do you basically just have to make sure your intake fan is bigger than your outtake, and your joints are adequately sealed up?

    • @dannywilsher4165
      @dannywilsher4165 Před rokem +1

      @@Jonathan_Doe_ I use a fan with a filter that blows air into the booth and therefore there is positive pressure inside and sealing of anything but the fan blowing into the booth is unnecessary.

    • @bosshawg7427
      @bosshawg7427 Před rokem +2

      ​@@Jonathan_Doe_ it doesn't matter how you do it, albeit positive pressure can risk more unseen dust, you must have adequate exchange of air within a certain amount of time, period. This is where most fail. Many underestimate how much air they need to move for the size of their booth. Even with enough cheap box fans, you can move an adequate amount of air vs a single "exhaust fan". You must make sure you are exchanging it fast enough. So whether you do exhaust, intake, or both, make sure to account for the room size.

    • @GoogleUser-yj1wy
      @GoogleUser-yj1wy Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@bosshawg7427albeit?

  • @DeanGelsinger-wq9lr
    @DeanGelsinger-wq9lr Před 4 měsíci

    I was planning to build a similar booth in my shop but now I’m going to wrap my Microbus. Thanks

  • @nicholassluyter7814
    @nicholassluyter7814 Před rokem +1

    What kind of paint gun do you use? After using cheap no name guns for a few years I finally bought the cheapest Devilbiss HVLP gun and it sprays epoxy primer with almost zero overspray. I have also sprayed Can Tire high solids enamel and Tremclad (thinned 10%), again, almost no overspray. I did all this painting in my school's auto shop and did not bother with a paint booth. In the woodshop I use the same gun to spray water base poly (I do run the dust collector) and there is very little overspray.

    • @GregWellwood
      @GregWellwood  Před rokem

      I sprayed with a DeVilbiss Finishline gun. There is minimal overspray with primers, but a lot more with the paint. I've sprayed a lot of primer in the shop over the past couple years without a problem. I did the cab jambs in the shop in colour, and was surprised how much overspray there was, hence the booth.

    • @mrhow2712
      @mrhow2712 Před rokem

      Get an iwata LPH400

  • @tandemcompound2
    @tandemcompound2 Před rokem

    uncle worked at a Nissan plant in UK spraying cars, his lungs are almost toast now. good vids you make.

  • @jackheinemann8780
    @jackheinemann8780 Před rokem

    I remember watching clear as day my dad spraying a guitar under the back patio with nitrocellulose laquer, no mask. The smell is something you never forget.

  • @jasoncook5307
    @jasoncook5307 Před rokem +1

    Use the cheap green hog hair filters or get bulk merv1, no need to run expensive filters that rapidly clog since your only looking to trap the pigment and keep airflow.

  • @KarlBretz-sp5ni
    @KarlBretz-sp5ni Před 2 měsíci

    Been awhile since I've painted a vehicle thank you for the tips 🤠

  • @glenns5627
    @glenns5627 Před rokem

    I've done it 4 ways: paint myself with no booth (blue shop that took years to "start" to disappear), paint myself with home-made booth, using plastic tarps which were heavier (all the issues Shop Teacher Guy had and more), taken it to a shop and "paid the man" (decent finish but didn't give even try to avoid overspraying anywhere, especially the engine, which took 80 hours of work to clean up) and "meh, it looks fine" after the rattle-can primer. For a working vehicle, I'd roll with "it looks fine", for a Special Project I'd "pay the man" after masking everywhere to make absolutely sure a monkey couldn't overspray where it shouldn't be.

  • @cubo55
    @cubo55 Před 11 měsíci

    This is actually really good advice. Can't put a price on your health

  • @pmd7914
    @pmd7914 Před rokem

    Interesting to hear.

  • @LordLoMR2
    @LordLoMR2 Před rokem +2

    I painted a car once… I’ll never do it again. Too dusty, paint everywhere, and it still looked like shit. Lol

  • @seattime4075
    @seattime4075 Před 2 měsíci

    I use a waterfall filter system, although it seems you had a awful lot of overspray.

  • @tims.2832
    @tims.2832 Před 2 měsíci

    And there’s still lots of channels promoting spray guns without saying a word about the room you need. It’s like advertising tennis rackets when there is no court in a 100 mile radius

  • @thewolfin
    @thewolfin Před rokem +2

    I appreciate the :
    Past me: "hey I think this is a great idea!"
    Future me: "I think past me is an idiot"
    There's a bodywork company by my work, frequently see the rear door open. Occasionally see an employee exiting the rear door, clearing the spray gun, and going back in. I can smell it in the air, after. They're not in coveralls, nor do they wear a quality gas mask. I spend the rest of my break wondering about their ventilation systems, how much they pay for their employees to not care, how little real effort it would take to keep their employees safe.
    Oh well, smoke break is over...

  • @jogalong
    @jogalong Před rokem

    The best filter is ABEK1 for your mask. Not sure which one you're using, but I dont feel any side-effects with this one :)

  • @vadimr4866
    @vadimr4866 Před rokem

    haha I loved the comment about agent orange! Good job man!

  • @Actio83
    @Actio83 Před 5 měsíci

    did you try prefilters to save the actual filters?

  • @joshuacampbell9990
    @joshuacampbell9990 Před 3 měsíci

    Just so you know, you can get high from the fumes of paint. Got myself in a bad predicament once with inadequate ventilation and only using a half mask. Absorbed the fumes through my eyes (I know better than that and I did it like an idiot) and then proceeded to take a trip and not leave the farm.

  • @jerrysylvester292
    @jerrysylvester292 Před 5 měsíci

    what filters can be used to filter out the fumes. I plan on building a booth and I really need to filter out the fumes not just overspray. Thanks

    • @GregWellwood
      @GregWellwood  Před 5 měsíci

      I'm sure a real body man will chime in, but as far as I have found there is no filter that can assure removal of di-isocyanates. I'll use a fresh new chemical filter for a spray, then replace them.

  • @2ndbar
    @2ndbar Před rokem

    Thanks for posting. I have all of the right tools and plenty of experience, but this fender and bumper need to be perfect. Last night a fly landed on the fender while I was roughing up the factory primed fender. Don't want that to happen on the wet paint or primer. Also, I've heard from a cancer specialist that one short exposure can damage your DNA. I guess I will have to bite the bullet and find a pro.

  • @kirkpowell6161
    @kirkpowell6161 Před rokem

    Sound advice my friend...

  • @gatekeeper65
    @gatekeeper65 Před rokem +7

    Isocyanates are deadly. When a professional painter gives you an honest estimate, just thank him for taking all the risks and potentially saving your life, and pay him.
    You get to live to enjoy your project car, and he gets to feed his family for the short time he's going too be around.

    • @bcdodie4648
      @bcdodie4648 Před rokem +6

      Been spraying safely for 30 years. I change filters regularly. In my Booth, and my mask. I read my nano meter daily to check air flow. And I run 6 miles everyday. I'm sure I'll live longer than you

    • @jackheinemann8780
      @jackheinemann8780 Před rokem

      You need to fact check that. Yes Iso's arnt great for you, but go fill your gun up with anything else and fill your garage with fog...let me know how you feel after that? With proper prep and thought damn near all risks can be eliminated. As far as Ive read, the only risk of spraying isos is asthma. There are multiple studies of large groups of people who are working in polyurethane manufacturing facilities, they only found an increase in lung cancer in female workers, which im sure they would have been genetically predisposed to it. Spraying urethanes once in a blue moon with propper ppe is irrelivant.

    • @mrhow2712
      @mrhow2712 Před rokem +1

      @@bcdodie4648 I use an airfed mask when I spray. And when I get in the booth and take the air fed mask off I always replace it with the other mask before walking out.
      And in between changing masks I hold my breath.
      I'm super careful!

    • @mateocarlos2674
      @mateocarlos2674 Před 6 měsíci

      It would be a service to mankind for you to put your setup, and protocol on CZcams for the rest of us. TIA @@bcdodie4648

  • @jaxv94
    @jaxv94 Před rokem

    Dang I guess I should just save up for a prefab booth

  • @easternarmory7617
    @easternarmory7617 Před 8 měsíci

    If you have never sprayed before...the chances of the job turning out well is VERY low... it is a skillset acquired over much practice and repetition and knowledge of the products...overspray is a nuisance to deal with but it looks you didnt use proper exhaust filters for arresting the overspray and voc. I agree with your sentiment, painting is better off left to the pros. Another option is an inflatable paintbooth, but those have a lot issues as well...

  • @Grunttamer
    @Grunttamer Před rokem +6

    I’m no expert but I was surprised to see the filters on your mask were white. I think you need the organic vapor filters that are pink.

  • @shawnrenaud2252
    @shawnrenaud2252 Před rokem

    Good series of videos. Thanks! I've spent lots of time and a fair amount of money on various booth setups but now do most spraying with doors open, water on the floor and strategically-placed exhaust fans. For primer, it's strictly outdoors. Applying extra coats of clear permits pretty aggressive post-paint wet sanding and the results are satisfying. As far as air pressure is concerned, after a few forays into hvlp spraying, it becomes quite easy to tell when the settings are off. Lighting and the proper angles for watching your paint flow onto the surface are extremely important and getting that right makes it all so much easier.

    • @GregWellwood
      @GregWellwood  Před rokem

      Now that a week has passed, one part of me is feeling like "if I had another go at this, it would be so much better" and the other part of me reminds me how much I absolutely hated every aspect of the panting and paint prep. I'll stick to sheet metal, electrical, and drivetrain (grin).

  • @lewiemcneely9143
    @lewiemcneely9143 Před rokem +7

    All the folks that I know that painted for a living died of cancer. Not comforting at all. Outside is best being upwind! BLESSINGS!

    • @jackheinemann8780
      @jackheinemann8780 Před rokem +7

      Yup, the days before quality PPE. You have to remember those blokes were doing it day in day out for decades. They wouldnt have been wearing masks at all times, like when there mixing or sanding. Paint shops take your breath away to even be in. They probably smoked and drank heavily too, as most trades people do/did

  • @ernesttrujillo7336
    @ernesttrujillo7336 Před 4 měsíci

    Combo filters should work

  • @ratz88
    @ratz88 Před rokem +2

    The half mask in any case doesnt provide enough protection for the isocyanates. Having a beard makes it next to useless. Not sure if you've ever been fit tested for a respirator in industry but even a 5 o'clock shadow is enough to comprimise the seal and cause leaks. Are you using a true supplied air with a hose long enough to allow you to put the blower in a clean area outside of the shop? Or is your supplied air actually a Powered Air Purifying Respirator with the blower pack you wear on your hip? In either case kuddos for recognizing the health risks. Love the videos, hope you stay healthy and keep making videos for years to come!

    • @GregWellwood
      @GregWellwood  Před rokem +2

      My Supplied Air is inside the shop on the opposite wall, and 50' of hose into the booth. The booth expels outside the shop. I'll still use supplied air when spraying outside (just keep the unit itself inside).

  • @bigears4014
    @bigears4014 Před rokem

    I sprayed acrylic for years , and have done a couple of 2k cars , I'm doing a truck and know 2k is a better product but you're just talked me back into acrylic

    • @tykendrick800
      @tykendrick800 Před 3 měsíci

      When you guys say acrylic. Are you talking about acrylic enamel?

  • @maksymilianwlizlo1099
    @maksymilianwlizlo1099 Před 4 měsíci

    Set up a good airfed

  • @airx.6675
    @airx.6675 Před rokem +3

    I think you should have put the exhaust down low rather than having the paint flow up and come out the top. Most booths have a down draft .

    • @GregWellwood
      @GregWellwood  Před rokem +1

      I was trying for that. The fan was up high; I had to get it ducted up there to exit the shop. Initially I had the exit filters down low.

  • @Carpentersspecial
    @Carpentersspecial Před rokem

    Paying the man can easily cost $15000-$20000 so not an easy pill to swallow.

  • @blizteredthumbs7911
    @blizteredthumbs7911 Před 2 měsíci

    I personally know guys who paint almost every day. Never once your same complaints. I can only suggest you're doing something wrong. For one, are you staying in the booth? The cars prepped, brought in to oven, final prep.. oven on/extraction.. apply paint, leave.. wait, back in .. repeat.. till done.

  • @petermcarroll9975
    @petermcarroll9975 Před rokem

    Your mask has the black stripe filter, the brown stripe filter is what I use

  • @diggerdog9096
    @diggerdog9096 Před rokem +1

    If you want it nice give it to the boys with a spray booth, worth the money. If like me and don't care use a roller, rattle can,. wipe on some linseed oil or just enjoy the multicolored parts and rusty rat rod look. Breathing that crap is just not worth it .

  • @Hanibul_Lecktor
    @Hanibul_Lecktor Před rokem

    Slow flow is best in garage setups. Wet everything, even splurge for some spray mask to lock down the dust. Ground the vehicle, use Isopropyl Alcohol in a pump sprayer andist the entire room. Removing the positive static charge in the air.
    The dust in the paint is poor prep, absolutely nothing to do with any amount of filters you use.

    • @GregWellwood
      @GregWellwood  Před rokem

      Agreed. And almost guaranteed when it comes to me and bodywork.

  • @acs66562
    @acs66562 Před 5 měsíci

    Unless you have a $100K downdraft booth, you are going to get dust in your finish. So, if you’re going to end up cutting and rubbing no matter what, then just spray it outside, at dawn if possible. Been doing it for years.

  • @DaBurntToaster
    @DaBurntToaster Před měsícem

    p100 filter cartridges will only filter up to a certain ppm, imagine the air was 100% some contaminant in the air, no oxygen, no nitrogen, no co2, no argon.
    its a carbon filter that acts like a magnet for contaminants, its not like an RO filter where it has to be so small to pass, those magnets will only be able to pick up so much so quickly.
    100% if you are in a spray booth, use a supplied air respirator, if you dont want to buy one, get a cartridge filter respirator hook a hose up to a cartridge port, run that hose outside and far away and put a delta fan on that shit, fuckers sound like jet turbines and can push themselves off the ground, you will feel the wind in your face.
    negative pressure rooms are never a good idea if your trying to make a sealed cleanroomesq room. any holes will suck in air, and suck in dust and hair. get a high flow fan with a filter before it and push air into the room, doesnt matter how well its sealed because all the air inside is clean. im planning on making a spray booth, was looking for tips , you could get a sheet of whatever tarp you use for the "walls" thats about 1ft wider and longer and place it on the floor, surround the perimeter with ply wood on its side and lift up the edge of the inner wall about an inch and reinforce with 2x4 the small gap will be the air vent and a quick 90 degree turn (probably make for a ~1inch gap between the walls will have most of the paint that manages to get that far on the ply wood. if it gets passed turn the fan speed down. you could also pack the gap with a loosely packed fiber to catch the remaining paint and not have it get gunked up after an hour of painting.

  • @guytiips3906
    @guytiips3906 Před rokem

    Maybe they have no choice..!!
    Why don't built booth ?

  • @cedricmcmillian7245
    @cedricmcmillian7245 Před rokem

    So, don't paint cars if you smoke, nor want fumes on yourself

  • @isbcornbinder
    @isbcornbinder Před rokem +3

    I have been there and done what you did. Never again. I vote for professional spray job. My health has been compromised. At 77, I am facing a shortened life.

    • @bcdodie4648
      @bcdodie4648 Před rokem +5

      You're 77. Beyond the average life expectancy in America silly goose

    • @mrhow2712
      @mrhow2712 Před rokem

      You we're probably painting back when they had lead in the paint and had poor painting practices like not wearing masks

  • @noneyabidness6655
    @noneyabidness6655 Před rokem +1

    Hey , a feller channel name Fitzee talked about a oil rig paint that comes in a bunch of colors an if left to harden is durable an ruff to sand, an about 100 bucks . Was in his Mustang videos . That stuff is made to hold up on oil rigs out in the ocean , prolly laugh at salt roads . Won't be quite as pretty as your paint . Think he's on a Island up there in Canada , don't remember the name . But you should have same stuff available . I plan on getting some , just have to order mine in to the US .

    • @GregWellwood
      @GregWellwood  Před rokem +2

      He used Tremclad in the engine bay - was that the stuff?

    • @noneyabidness6655
      @noneyabidness6655 Před rokem +2

      I think the epoxy primer was interseal and he used trimclad 1 to 1 with thinner to spray it . The interseal was the oil rig paint I was remembering .

  • @seanwood5443
    @seanwood5443 Před rokem

    mabe buy a different cartridge for your respirator that will filter out all the bad stuff regular cartriges aren't meant for chemicals

  • @bruceyoung1343
    @bruceyoung1343 Před rokem

    Good decision not to spray inside. I guess that’s why pros use booths. Need you to stick around a lil longer.

  • @metalmann
    @metalmann Před rokem

    Some jobs are worth paying someone else to do.
    The prep and the masking is the hard work in painting a car.
    Paying for a booth and a top gun painter is cheap As chips.

  • @m.a.d.garage6340
    @m.a.d.garage6340 Před rokem

    Want to sell your fresh air respirator?

    • @GregWellwood
      @GregWellwood  Před rokem +1

      Nope. Because I'm likely going to do this again. (grin)

  • @jaderem6203
    @jaderem6203 Před rokem +1

    You sure you don't get high? You seem kinda stoned in this one.

    • @GregWellwood
      @GregWellwood  Před rokem +2

      Very tired. And disappointed with the return on investment.

  • @brett8090
    @brett8090 Před rokem

    Like for the trump legs joke 🤣

  • @mattchastain1770
    @mattchastain1770 Před rokem

    My dear wife thanks you. Of course she’s been telling me to pay someone to paint my truck, but I didn’t want listen. Fortunately for the sake of my lungs, I’m going to listen to you. However, I do see a fair bit of primer and undercoating in my future. 😁

  • @danielturner6626
    @danielturner6626 Před 11 měsíci

    Lol if you put ventilation in a t it works fine lol what a joke

  • @jameschuke4104
    @jameschuke4104 Před 3 měsíci

    Your painting to much at one time you don't need to paint the whole truck in one day do it in sections

  • @bcdodie4648
    @bcdodie4648 Před rokem

    You don't look like Donald trump. We would all make fun of you

  • @Swampyssidehustlehobbyshop

    Could it be you know absolutely nothing about properly setting up the spray gun so it is properly atomizing the paint and not a massive amount of overspray?
    Using LVLP spray gun opposed to HVLP spray gun to minimize overspray putting more material on the work surface and less overspray in the air. proper explosion proof ventilation fans that exhaust high volumes of air.
    positive fresh air flow in to replace contaminated air being pulled out. HVAC filters? Are you serious?
    No, you should really leave it to the professionals.

  • @Swampyssidehustlehobbyshop

    One more problem you had with your paint booth is you had negative pressure instead of positive pressure booth.