MOTIV STRIKES AGAIN?? | Motiv Tank Yellowjacket | Purple Hammer vs Pitch Black vs Zen U
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- Youth Team Canada member, Jimoo is back with the new Tank Yellowjacket from Motiv! Testing out the microcell polymer technology in a battle of the urethanes.
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2:55 - Bowling
9:43 - Question Time with Jimoo!
10:15 - More Bowling
11:41 - Summary
14:41 - Downlane Reaction Comparison
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COMMENT: Which is your favourite ball from each brand?
Motiv: Blue Coral Venom
B7: Sneak Attack Hybrid
SPI: T-Road Solid
$wag: Pure Fantasy
Brunswick Family - Hammer Black Widow 2.0 and Radical Bonu$ Pearl / Motiv - Pride Solid (Great ball for lefties) / No SPI the only two balls I from Storm both cracked. Never again.
Freak’n Frantic
Pink Widow
Pride
Storm Roto grip hyped pearl - wanted to get a purple hammer but the pro shop talked me into this one.
I throw mainly SPI because I’ve loved most everything they’ve come out with, but the Storm Axiom holds a special place in my heart because it’s the ball that I threw to win my first tournament. Had a Purple Hammer since I’m a lefty and wanted to try it, but much prefer my UC3 and ZenU
Microcell is a weird cover, keep throwing it, the more games the better. It will take down lots. Same happened with my blue tank, took about 15-20 games for it to stop hooking so much in the mids. Now I treat it like urethane and it takes surface changes well, can’t wait to see how the Yellowjacket fairs
The tough part is that after that break-in phase, they all kind of look the same, at least for me anyway. I can throw the Blue, Covert, and Desert right on top of one another. MCP is so damn grabby that a tweak of a core or a little pearl additive really isn't enough to differentiate one MCP ball from the next.
Let’s be honest. You Shouldent have to “break” a ball in. It’s not a shoe. Yea you might have to change surfaces immediately to get it to do exactly what you as a player want, but you Shouldent have to throw a ball 20 games for it to start looking good. Never seen any ball like that before. It’s a hot piece of trash that just burns a hole in the lane
Ej found that out pretty quick to be thought it was all that and started throwing it on tv. And boy he found real quick it wasent it. Threw it 7 franes and we never saw it again
No one's stopping him (or anyone else) from doing exactly that, though. It's pretty common practice in bowling now to reset surfaces before putting the ball into competitive play. Whether it's doing a full reset, or something as similar as breaking the surface polish by hand using an Abralon pad. I don't even bother with SPI's ReactaGloss anymore. The ball goes straight to a spinner and gets 500+1000+Step 2. For Motiv, I immediately take all their symmetrical balls either to 3000 (using Abralon and/or Storm's ReactaScuff) or do the 500+1000+Step 2 thing. These testers are showing you what the balls look like out of the box but I don't see many people throwing things in straight-up box finish very often unless they're very inexperienced and just don't know any better. Every PBA pro using B7 equipment resets at least some of their Purple Hammers to 360 or 500.
@@Charles13033 Its kind of like a shoe. Most balls dont look out of the box the way they will after many games. They are going to absorb oil, surface will change, going to grt damaged, knicked etc. I mean for the most part yes, their not going to change that much. But every ball needs a bit of care after alot of games. If you have an entire season on a ball or more, its not going to be the same as it was fresh out the box. Their all different. Certain balls look better with some games on them, others look better fresh. Generally speaking they usually do look better after you use them a little bit. And the more time you put in the more you know what to expect from said ball. Which is exactly what your looking for.
I enjoy the two handed test on equipment. Nick from MOTIV. Had to shine it up some. From two handed grandpa from Michigan
The back up ball was the best shot in the video 🤣 impressive
Storm Brand- 900 global burner Pearl
Brunswick- hammer black widow hybrid 2.0
Motiv-venom shock
Would love to see more of the Yellow Jacket with the surface taken up a touch. Favorites from each brand, nothing fancy, don't need much with my game...
Motiv: Black Venom
SPI: IQ Tour Solid
Brunswick: Purple Hammer Reactive
I saw that quick little flash of the Black Venom hahaha.
Brands of Brunswick: Columbia Eruption Pearl
SPI: 900 G Zen Soul
Motiv: Jackal Flash
This is a really good three ball bag for league.
i haven't thrown anything from Brunswick or Storm, but my favorite Motiv ball is the Jackal Ghost. The Pride Empire is also a very underrated ball!
Are you getting paid to throw one brand? If not, you are doing yourself a disservice doing so. Can get so much more well rounded arsenal. There are shapes you can't get with just one brand.
Finally a motiv piece!
Storm-none (have never played with storm)
Brunswick-Black Widow Pink Urethane Pearl from Hammer
Motiv-Jackal Ghost
Ebonite - GB4 Hybrid
Storm - Nova
Swag - Dynamite Max
Elite - Xmax Predator Pearl
Track - Archetype
B7: DV8 Turmoil 2 (honorary mention to Radial Informer)
Storm Nation: !Q Tour Nano Pearl
Motiv: Haven't had the pleasure of throwing. Wife loves the Pride
Left side shoot is just insane
I think my favorite balls rn are the storm phaze 3 or 2, hammer has to be web tour solid, and motiv I don't have a opinion on but I do like my roto grip RIP.
Storm Family: Zen
Brunswick Family: Track Archetype
Motiv: Haven’t thrown a Motiv ball
Venom Shock, Brunswick Mindset, Roto Grip Black Ultra Idol and waiting on the Black Hammer
Storm: Gem, Brunswick: Purple Hammer, Motiv: Midnight Sniper [super awesome spare ball]
Might be our first long oil pattern urethane. Wouldn't count this ball out yet 🫣
Storm- reality
Brunswick- knockout
Motiv- Venom shock
Jungo with an early guest appearance!
Storm: Phaze 4
Brunswick: Purple Hammer
Motiv: Jackal Ghost
Favorite by Brands: Motiv - Blue Coral Venom, Storm - IQ Ruby, Brunswick - Innovator Pearl
Storm- winner solid
Brunswick- obsession tour
Motiv - blue coral venom
My favorite is (storm) pitch black. (BR) purple hammer. (MV) Venom shock.
Wow! I didn't expect the Yellow Jacket to roll like a 180 grit ball. Seems absurd honestly.
You said you wouldn't use it on a long pattern but it looks like it may be perfect for long.
The first shot on PB, i was definetly going to ask a re-rack. 4 pin a little off.
I’ve bowled with motiv for a few years now and my go to is jackal ghost I’ve decided over the years I needed something weak we besides the sniper and love the tank line to answer the question with motiv it’s more the line than a ball as is with the others
Brunswick: Nexus and Seige series
Storm: Hyroad/Crossroad
Motiv: Jackal/Venom/Primal & Tank
Try the motiv jackal series. I have a jakel legacy, but also like the jakel ghost alot
3:36 what is that four pin doing all the way over there? lol
I'd say roto grip rstx2, hammer black widow 2.0 and motive venom shock my current favorite. Also time to upgrade
Motiv: Trident Odyssey
Storm: Summit
Brunswick: Rip'D Solid
Swag- Fantasy Daze (best sym solid I have ever thrown) (better than IQ, Phase 2, and venom shock)
Motiv- Primal Rage
SPI-Sinister
Brands of Brunswick- proof solid
So if you are low rev more power straighter lines which ball would be best?
Pro motion. The one remix. Venom shock.
Nice reviews, I will say: Storm iQ tour, Brunswick: purple Hammer and Motiv: Sigma tour
Motiv Jackal legacy
Storm/ 900 zen master
Brunswick/ Hammer black widow 2.0
You haven't had enough break in with the yellow tank. That MCP needs more games. With all of my tanks they are all much more aggressive for the first 30ish games, before it smooths out. I would take my MCP balls (blue tank, and carbide tank) over any other urethane ball I've thrown, which includes all of them in this video(I am not a 2 handed bowler though). Really an unfair and not good test of the MCP and yellow tank. You guys are usually better about this stuff but even urethane is strong before it gets some lane shine. Not you're best comparison video but good to see Motiv finally making an appearance. I hope to see more.
really want to use my Purple Hammer (pink pin) in my mens league (house shot), but a lot of players frown on it. Thoughts?
Storm: Revenant
900 Global: Zen Soul
Motiv: Jackal Legacy
Hammer: Black widow urethane
Radical: Results pearl
Storm: Tropical Storm Royal/Green (I know it old)
Brunswick: Hammer Purple Solid Reactive
Motiv: Ascent Solid
Motiv family: Jackal Ghost
Storm family: Hy-Road
900 Global family: Eternity
Brunswick family: Purple Scoremaker
Manson family: Charlie
From Storm ny favorite is the Absolute and from Motiv the Primal Shock.
Storm: Roto Grip Idol Helios
Brunswick: Purple Hammer
I did not try any of the Motiv balls yet. When I do, I will get back to you.
Envy Tour from Hammer, Track Tundra Fire 🔥, Crypto Boom from Radical , Activ8 From DV8
Based on what I have seen, and my low speed high rev rate. Polishing that Yellow Tank is the right move. Polished it would become that angular piece late in Transition when Blue Tank is too much ball.
brunswick : hammer envy tour
storm : Idol Helios
motiv : Covert Tank 😎😎😎
honestly the covert tank for 2h is so fun, just sling it down 10 and watch it do its magic
Storm: phaze 2, Brunswick: knockout, and I don’t throw any motiv balls but I do throw roto grip so from there the exotic gem
Venom shock is the holy grail in my arsenal. Im trying to only throw motiv because it fits my style of play so much more than the other brands. I definitely wanna pick up a black venom or sky raptor next
Yeah true that . I shot 244/300 first 2 games with black venom
Motiv - Blue Tank. "Brunswick"- Track Stealth. SPI - 900 Global Aspect.
Exotic gem venom shock and black widow 2.0
fav balls:
Motiv - Mythic or Crimson jackal
Hammer - Black widow Ghost pearl
Storm - Phaze 2 or Pitch black
Dv8 - Dv8 trouble maker
Brunswick - (dull) Forta
motiv- all jackels and tanks storm- phase 2 hammer both pink pearl
SPI - between the Eternity and the Incite
Brunswick - nothing because everything from them I've thrown has been dog water
Motiv - Venom Coral
Hammer brand:( my favorite of all time) black widow 2.0 solid. Storm brand: Idol cosmos. And I have not thrown any motiv stuff.
Storm: Phaze II, Brunswick: Envy Tour/Black Widow Hybrid 2.0 (hard to choose between the two) and Motiv: Venom Shock.
Black Widow 2.0 Hybrid Hammer all the way! The old black widow legend solid red was my favorite.
My favorite ball from storm brand is absolute Brunswick brand melee jab blood red Motiv brand venom Shock Pearl
Chaos
Storm: Fate
Roto: RSTX1
900: Wolverine (OG)
Hammer: Black Widow Pink (pearl)
Columbia: Meltdown
Motiv: Coral Venom
You got the og meltdown?
@@tylers_bowling_pb I had it. No longer in my possession
Storm - HyRoad
Brunswick - Gold Rhino Pro
Motiv - Primal Rage
MCP always hooks very early until it blends out after some games then they are much better
No Doubt about the Motiv Forge Flare , i use only Motiv and Rotogrip Balls, and the Exotic Gem is a real Beast! i Am not crazy about the Storm Balls
Your pattern is drilled for such early movement. Let the cover breakdown over a few weeks and see how you like it. I’m sure ejs has more shine plus a different spread.
900 Global: Eternity
Storm: Absolute
Brunswick: T-Zone
Would have been great to see all at the same surface for a true comparison. The purple, pitch black, and ZenU were all pretty lane shined whereas the Motiv comes very dull and takes a bit from other reviews to break in
Hammer Infamous, storm axiom, motiv black venom
Cool video talk tech bowling bowling ball motiv tank yellow jacket with nano technology Dynamic core technology in the bowling ball too more strike hitting power at time Jr pro shop
Well….. Motiv-venom shock and trident odyssey… Paragon Hybrid
Jimoo you should try Swag Bowling
SO MUCH TWO HANDED CONTENT ITS ENUFF TO MAKE A GROWN MAN CRY
or switch to two hands😀
Does this ball meet the new 78D hardness requirement?
@@donsmith7771 it definitely fails the 45 minute absorption test
@donsmith7771 according to pba any urethane like ball has to pass the test so yes it would have to pass the test. Interesting to see if it does.
@@donsmith7771 its also not released yet. Literally every other tank is on the list, there's no reason why the rule wouldn't also apply to the yellowjacket
@iceman5117 well all his comments were removed. I would think it would apply either way.
@@iceman5117 I’m pretty sure it passes, so it doesn’t have to meet the hardness bc it’s considered reactive resin not urethane
Storm: phaze 2
Radical: innovator
Hammer: purple H
2ls layouts?
How does it work on string pins?
I'm sorry, but string pins don't have any effect on how the ball reacts on the lane.
If you get this ball in a little oil, it will make those puppet pins dance like they never have before!!!
Ball looked like it had been thrown thru the mud. So dirty.
Brunswick Brands: Dv8 Collision
SPI brands: Roto Grip Idol Cosmos
Motiv: Jackal Flash (it's the only one I've owned)
Motiv VIP Affliction / Radical Results / Global 900 Zen Soul / Purple Hammer / Storm Code Master
Love the affliction
Definitely Pitch Black, widow 2.0 hybrid, hated every motiv ball I’ve ever had
With Motiv it's the Desert Tank. With Storm it's the Electrify Solid. Brunswick is the Hammer Raw Solid.
Purple hammer should be illegal on all levels I just watched Pluhowsky absolutely dominate the entire women’s field throwing it
I heard that the PBA are basically "banning urethane" with the new softness rules
So incase you don't know, last year they changed requirements to higher than 72 instead of 74, but now they changed it to 78. So the newer production balls are going to have to have a harder cover. But that is only in PBA events, not casual bowlers.
Wow, this ball looks terrible on the lane 😬 gonna have to skip this one
I thought so too. But I went to a junior gold ball demo today and it was there. So when it was my turn for the Motiv section I tried it and I loved it. I threw it on a pretty heavy oil surface and I loved it. It hooked the perfect amount right into the pocket and went through the pins amazing. Keep in mind I am a low speed mid rev player. My speed is only 11-13 mph.
Storm - Reality , Brunswick- Black widow Savage , Motiv Primal Shock
First comment?👀
That ball is weird
2nd comment
Ball looks like it has the same problem as the jackal ambush, it just digs a trench in the lane no matter where you put it. Hot garbage
Worked fine for the best player in the world right now so sounds like the only ones crying are the bad bowlers...
@@Lowns_300to be fair Ej only used it for one game and went back to the stuff he usually uses
@ACommentFromCZcams for a couple games on TV yes. Do you watch the like 60+ games bowled in qualifying, etc? People always blame bowling balls yet the best player in the world uses all these. The difference is he knows how to use it to his advantage and what works for him while regular bowlers miss and immediately blame bowling balls.
@@Lowns_300 are you saying that EJ could successfully throw this ball on any condition in competition, and win?
I found the guy who only bowls on a house shot.
Storm code black
Motiv jackal ghost
and I refuse to own a hammer
Yikes. That ball… does not look great. 😅
That tank just doesn’t look right at all going down the lane
That Yellow Jacket looks terrible. If it rolled out any more, it would back up.
This ball looks like a big, round yellow turd. And not just because it's hideous to look at - what conditions is that ball even meant for?
Lol... that thing starts hooking before he lets it go, and has rolled out by the time it's at the arrows. Perhaps if there were a hose constantly soaking the lane with oil as you bowl, a ball that early MIGHT be useful. Hard pass...🤣
That motiv ball looks like hot garbage lmao. Microcell polymer is just not it at all. Burns up the lane like hell and then starts hooking early and hills again at 20 feet. Pieces of trash motiv has been making
Motiv- Venom Shock
BoB- Hammer Ocean Vibe
Storm- Phaze 2
EBI- Original Hammer Cherry Vibe.