The Sony CHORDMACHINE

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  • A look at Sony's one-off musical oddity from 1982 - The CFS-C7 CHORDMACHINE
    Music cassette featured from eox.no
    If you want to see a traditional Boombox/synth keyboard combo - the Casio KX-101 is demonstrated here by the 8-Bit Guy. • Casio KX-101 Bizarre B...
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    01:49 Fixtures & fittings
    04:36 Faults & fixes
    12:13 DEMO
    19:23 Summary
    22:01 Credits
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  • @Azeria
    @Azeria Před 2 lety +1361

    That ‘CHORDMACHINE’ logo goes way harder than it needs to, I love it

    • @Blood-PawWerewolf
      @Blood-PawWerewolf Před 2 lety +14

      Isn’t it using the same typeset/font that Microsoft used for it’s original logo during it’s pre-Windows era times? That “M” looked familiar

    • @theGoogol
      @theGoogol Před 2 lety +24

      @@Blood-PawWerewolf : Nah, not the old MS logo (that's a mess, tbh)
      It is a font that's been used many times, though. It reminds me of ActiVision.

    • @Zoltarii
      @Zoltarii Před 2 lety +9

      Looking at that logo, the "MA" is bigger and emphasised... Maybe someone else already said this, but isn't "ma' a concept of simplicity and "lack of complexity" in Japanese culture and philosophy? I'm maybe just seeing something that's not there, or being a bit weird, but that would make perfect sense with this machine. I wonder if that was the concept or just a fluke and someone in marketing went with it?

    • @REXXSEVEN
      @REXXSEVEN Před 2 lety +1

      If it doesn't allow me to actually bend notes then I guess it's not very useful.

    • @lowstaar
      @lowstaar Před 2 lety +7

      It has potential for a band name and logo for sure lmao

  • @Mekchanoid
    @Mekchanoid Před 2 lety +487

    Love that you can use a wifi router as an interactive proximity-based audio FX unit. Some seriously forward-looking performance tech.

    • @crominion6045
      @crominion6045 Před 2 lety +16

      Sort of a rudimentary Alesis AirFX, and nearly 20 years before that unit. 😄

    • @Monkeyshaman
      @Monkeyshaman Před 2 lety +15

      Even left a panel for circuitbending.

    • @ThatsPety
      @ThatsPety Před 2 lety +1

      Lmfao

    • @KroltanMG
      @KroltanMG Před 2 lety +12

      It's a percussion theremin!

    • @35milesoflead
      @35milesoflead Před 2 lety +4

      I liked the ring modulation it created. Quite an awesome sound.

  • @carlklitzke9455
    @carlklitzke9455 Před 2 lety +317

    On wifi vs old sound machines, I spent about 4 hours cleaning and reseating and testing things ony mother's old kimball organ until we realized the noise it made was exactly in rhythm with the LED indicators on the wireless router/modem sitting on top of it 😄

    • @ThatsPety
      @ThatsPety Před 2 lety +14

      LOL that's great, what a way to realize what the problem was

    • @sparky6086
      @sparky6086 Před 2 lety +7

      This is a lot like those organs in the late 1960's & 1970's, where they had preset cords and rhythms to assist the player.

    • @slipperynickels
      @slipperynickels Před rokem +3

      lmao, amazing

    • @Federico84
      @Federico84 Před 10 měsíci

      is it possible to create a shield inside the machine?

    • @joshuahadams
      @joshuahadams Před 6 měsíci

      @@Federico84a sheet of aluminum foil would work.

  • @neilgadsby3924
    @neilgadsby3924 Před 2 lety +71

    It never fails to amuse me that a key component of music technology in this era was a rubber band.

    • @NafanyaZX
      @NafanyaZX Před 2 lety +12

      To this day, most cars' engines depend on a timing belt. If not replaced every 5-6 years, it may snap, which causes pistons to go domestic violence on the valves. That's a catastrophic failure you can't fix with a new belt. Why is it still like this? Because it's still the cheapest to manufacture system.

    • @TheHenirik
      @TheHenirik Před 2 lety +6

      and older cars actually had gears instead of a belt (or chain which is also common today), but that changed when the camshaft moved upwards to the top of the cylinderhead

    • @propertymanager9149
      @propertymanager9149 Před rokem +2

      goat invention

  • @WilliamHostman
    @WilliamHostman Před 2 lety +429

    WHen I was majoring invocal performance (1988-1993), I'd have loved having that.
    The 12 keys are the 12 half-steps of the chromatic scale. The normal (Major) scale uses keys 1,3,5,6,7,10,11,12; a chord is 3 notes in key. The three smaller buttons to the left are the quality: major is default, you hit a minor and a diminished chord, and somehow got a 7th chord as well.
    Normal 4 chord progression (So-called "I-IV-V-I" is 1-6-8-1. a more colorful tone, with more "resolution", you'd charge that 8 button (The V chord, "fifth chord") to 7th-modifier + chord 8.
    It's aimed at practicing voice and/or guitar without needing a piano keyboard. (Many vocalists have piano issues...)
    Sad songs, the progression changes to I-iv-v-I (capitalization matters), so button 1, minor+6, minor+8, 1. Or I -VI-iv-v-vii°-I, played with 1, 10, min+6, minor+8, diminished+12, 1
    If you know what youe edoing, you can shift it into any key by simple addition; the tuning knob is for matching with intonation-invariant instruments (like bugles, recorders/blockflutes, Tin whistles, etc.)
    It is VERY approachable to those with elementary chord theory. It also was pretty much superfluous - most decent keyboards (and lots of crappy ones) had the same functionality built in, usually labeled on Yamaha machines as "ABC" (for Auto-Bass-Chord)... you play the root note of the chord, and one or more keys as well, to set the "quality" - Major by default; minor or diminished or 7th with one extra key above the root, minor-seventh with two, diminished 7th with a different 2. Our 1978 or so Yamaha console organ had that functionality on the second manual.

    • @Stoney3K
      @Stoney3K Před 2 lety +3

      Looks like the modifier keys (H-1 or H-2) allowed you to switch between 'regular' (major) and minor or 7t chords.

    • @fredbloggs8072
      @fredbloggs8072 Před 2 lety +2

      If you are creating music using the stuff on the right, can you use the cassette deck on the left to record it? Mr TM might have mentioned it, but if so I missed it. Seems a bit daft if you can't.

    • @phrogman4654
      @phrogman4654 Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you for your explanation

    • @keltar4071
      @keltar4071 Před 2 lety +1

      @@fredbloggs8072 im pretty sire he said that you couldnt record the cord side

    • @yadt
      @yadt Před 2 lety +9

      @@keltar4071 See the caption at 13:00, you can record whatever it outputs, radio, mic, chords, drumbeats.

  • @FandangoJon
    @FandangoJon Před 2 lety +90

    "Do you know what a twit you are?" Had me choke on my coffee. Well done, mate. That was great.

  • @gloomyblackfur399
    @gloomyblackfur399 Před 2 lety +29

    The method to replace that belt was beautiful in its simplicity. I wish all cassette players were designed that way.

  • @tylerevans1700
    @tylerevans1700 Před 2 lety +32

    I love the cheesey sounds from these types of "instruments". It's why I buy up all the "toy" keyboards from around the 80s that I can. That whole thing of limitations producing creativity and inspiration is just so much fun to me. Turning something straight cheese into something sweet and groovin' is such a magical experience..

  • @woodhonky3890
    @woodhonky3890 Před 2 lety +319

    The antenna being unbroken after 40 years is practically a miracle. 17:09 - what are the odds? Another great video Mat!

    • @AboveEmAllProduction
      @AboveEmAllProduction Před 2 lety +2

      Don't call him by his first name, he's not your mate

    • @jamesduncan6729
      @jamesduncan6729 Před 2 lety +46

      @@AboveEmAllProduction You're a real knob, you know that?

    • @apparentlyretrograde
      @apparentlyretrograde Před 2 lety +20

      @@AboveEmAllProduction Twonk.

    • @bio-plasmictoad5311
      @bio-plasmictoad5311 Před 2 lety +10

      @@Stevie-J any time I see stuff from Japan on eBay and such the items are pretty much all ways in pristine condition. There's definitely truth to the stereotype of the careful japanese owner.

    • @flipperth1
      @flipperth1 Před 2 lety +8

      @@AboveEmAllProduction 17:09!

  • @henrysalayne
    @henrysalayne Před 2 lety +227

    "I doesn't do much." - I find your lack of excitement disturbing. This is basically a personal stereo, synthesizer, drum machine and recording studio in one device aimed at consumers and hobbyists. Back in the 80s! Definitely 11/10 on the amazement scale!

    • @DJSockmonkeyMusic
      @DJSockmonkeyMusic Před 2 lety +25

      I bet it was a shitload cheaper than a tascam 4 track recorder plus a keyboard and a drum machine too. The sound clearly shows the devices age, but there would have been nothing else like it in the price range at the time, it's really quite amazing.

    • @ramziel
      @ramziel Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah, absolutely amazing device.

    • @hjalfi
      @hjalfi Před 2 lety +15

      Absolutely! It looks like exactly the kind of thing that Look Mum No Computer would love. I wonder how hard it would be to replicate (sans cassette and radio) using a single PCB and an Arduino doing the software synthesis heavy lifting --- probably not very... dammit, I already have too many projects on the go as it is!

    • @ClayMann
      @ClayMann Před 2 lety +11

      it is exactly the kind of thing pre teen me would have drooled over. Imagining the possibilities of creating hit records on it and connecting a guitar? wow i just to learn how to play guitar, buy one and imagine the possibilities! Sadly I did buy things like this, not exactly like this but what I like to call today, tat. So much tat was made back then that had no real practical use. Just mashups of one thing with another thing because wow, how zany is that! And when you're young you just see a cool new device.
      All I can imagine using that for today is sending to Look Mum No Computer and seeing if he wants to circuit bend the crap out of it and maybe turn the tape into a looper thing and make both parts work together. I could not do any of that.

    • @mgabrysSF
      @mgabrysSF Před 2 lety

      (where was the drum machine feature? at 19:19 he was lamenting it missing in action)

  • @RaccoonHenry
    @RaccoonHenry Před 2 lety +27

    one of my favorite things I still own is like the Chordmachine's grandson: a My First Sony tape deck with a built-in drumpad which can be switched to animal sounds. you can "drum" over your favorite cassettes!! it's very well put together, colored bright red, and actually quite awesome!

  • @hudson3539
    @hudson3539 Před rokem +4

    I'm here because of PlayStation Stars. The ChordMachine is one of the displayable rewards. The device looks fun!

  • @ThermionicValve
    @ThermionicValve Před 2 lety +24

    I cracked up when you switched on the radio and the DJ says "What a twit you are". Excellent timing.

  • @timhinchcliffe5372
    @timhinchcliffe5372 Před 2 lety +17

    The music video at the start was brilliant! It was like a real life late 80s, early 90s PC adventure game... _Techmoan Quest III: Quest for the Divine Tape Deck Belt_

  • @penitentiarychances9459
    @penitentiarychances9459 Před 2 lety +6

    I had a friend who had one of these. Back in the 80's. Back then, this was the pinnacle of technology and really impressed me. This is what you spent money on if you had it back in the 80's. All this stuff was brand new tech, and I happily integrated it into my life. Only really well off people had these, I had a grey Sanyo M2820 the kind with one speaker.

    • @bigredracingteam9642
      @bigredracingteam9642 Před 2 lety

      "pinnacle of technology" indeed. Music wasn't even invented yet - we had to create it ourselves back then.

  • @campfirebrian
    @campfirebrian Před 2 lety +8

    As a collector of weird retro tech I was happy to learn of this and just purchased one. Thanks so much for the video.

  • @tamasbenko8303
    @tamasbenko8303 Před 2 lety +162

    Definitely cannot call it boombox. Sony just missed another opportunity to call it tape re-chorder.

    • @paulperry7091
      @paulperry7091 Před 2 lety +3

      "Tape rechorder" - comedy gold! But yeah, what a missed riff not being able to tape itself!

  • @brianrainsfordmarshall2692
    @brianrainsfordmarshall2692 Před 2 lety +65

    It's like an ancient Teenage Engineering product. haha
    I actually quite like the sound of the drum machine. Reminds me of the early Roland drum machines like the CR78. They're not the fullest sounds, so it strikes me as something purely for accompaniment, either for practicing musicians or storytelling. Would be interesting to see what a circuitbender like Look Mum No Computer could do with this machine.

    • @tommyislarge
      @tommyislarge Před 2 lety

      Nice one for AudioPilz, Bad Gear series.

  • @stephenpapa3543
    @stephenpapa3543 Před 2 lety +4

    Hey man, you are just the best. I've been watching your videos for years and not only have I learned so much from you but your videos are also incredibly interesting and entertaining. Thanks for all the captivating moments over the years.

  • @scunnerdarkly4929
    @scunnerdarkly4929 Před 2 lety +101

    As an old Sony fanboy that’s a thing of beauty. It might ultimately have been a little bit crap as a musical device but that’s not the point here, it’s a great piece of Sony history with some solid industrial design and attention to detail such as the user controls. Casio’s KX-101 was a vastly superior and more impressive-looking take on the idea of a boom box for musicians but from a design point of view the Sony is the one I’d choose as a museum piece. Very cool.

    • @LTV746
      @LTV746 Před 2 lety +2

      Seperate latches, cable secure once latched closed, antennae, powered by AC/DC D cell, its incredible.

    • @FRANK45CASTLE
      @FRANK45CASTLE Před 2 lety

      In 50 years this thing will be a rare antique and well worth the investment financially at least. But the cool factor is explained well by the kid on the box. Kids the definition of being totally rad!!

    • @dbspaceoditty
      @dbspaceoditty Před 2 lety +1

      i can imagine japanese B boys rappin to beats made on this.
      what better way to record vocals or guitar without having a whole studio

    • @Welcome2TheInternet
      @Welcome2TheInternet Před 2 lety

      Lots of focus on user control. zero focus on usability. Nielsen/Norman would have a field day on this and it would be used as an exam essay question for all of time.
      "Use heuristics to make this thing usable - use sketches if needed"

    • @a......5214
      @a......5214 Před rokem

      This is hot bit gear 💥💥💥

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon Před 2 lety +230

    I have a Casio keyboard from a few years later that has many of those same functions (with a very similar sound) as "auto-accompaniment" options. Nothing says I Am A Serious Musician quite like playing along to a tinny bossa nova drum-and-cymbal line with some rinky-tink arpeggios running in the background. :)

    • @robob3ar
      @robob3ar Před 2 lety +12

      What I love about those basic/kiddy type instruments is that you’re not under pressure for it to sound awesome so you can play whatever for fun :)
      Oh god how I miss my casio, I think someone threw it out..

    • @trailg19c
      @trailg19c Před 2 lety +1

      Had the"same" Casio.

    • @harpingon
      @harpingon Před 2 lety +3

      I still weave my Casio VL-Tone VL-1 into songs sometimes.

    • @greenie2600
      @greenie2600 Před 2 lety +1

      @@trailg19c Casio has made hundreds of different toy keyboard models that fit this description.

    • @farhanyousaf5616
      @farhanyousaf5616 Před 2 lety +1

      @@robob3ar If any consolation, I have my Casio keyboard from when I was in grade 5 in a box somewhere. Though my Atari 800XL was indeed thrown out. :(

  • @CARLiCON
    @CARLiCON Před 2 lety +26

    that time when completely by accident Techmoan invented wifi circuit-bending without realizing it..BTW that middle variable control is tuning/transpose so you can tune it to the guitar or change the pitch to better fit your vocal range

  • @jetaimemina
    @jetaimemina Před rokem +2

    Haha, that mic feedback at 17:30 is just adorable. You go, fierce little synth!

  • @caseyholford
    @caseyholford Před 2 lety +5

    This thing is incredible - chord section is kind of a simplified version of the Omnichord by Suzuki. Particularly the chord sounds are very similar. Thank you so much for showcasing it!

  • @MeriaDuck
    @MeriaDuck Před 2 lety +19

    17:10 BRILLIANT timing with the radio broadcast!

  • @Gadgetonomy
    @Gadgetonomy Před 2 lety +7

    17:09 "You know what a twit you are..." That made me howl! Great video as always.

  • @JakeLionsWorld
    @JakeLionsWorld Před 2 lety +52

    Look up the Omnichord - a similar style of "accompaniment instrument." With this machine, you could work out a song with chords that sound good with it, record the chords/singing onto a tape, and then with another instrument maybe played along to your new song. I could see people using this for coming up with the structure and sound of a song.

    • @BrightBlueJim
      @BrightBlueJim Před 2 lety +1

      A little too early for that - that would have taken a more sophisticated microcomputer than would have been in the right price range in the 80s. Even today these are meant for professionals, as evidenced by the $500 price tag.

    • @JakeLionsWorld
      @JakeLionsWorld Před 2 lety +6

      @@BrightBlueJim Maybe I misunderstood - it sounded like the ChordMachine could only mix the mic input on top of any of the other input signals (cassette, radio, chord part) - and could then record what you're playing on the chordmachine, and therefore the mixed mic signal, at the same time to cassette (mixed down.) Then, the savvy musician might listen back to that cassette recording (of chords and vocals) and try playing, not recording, their instrument alongside it. That's what I means in terms of a rudimentary music-composing device.

    • @pissmilker2313
      @pissmilker2313 Před 2 lety

      @@JakeLionsWorld I agree with @BrightBlueJim . Doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see an omnichord in a future episode though.

    • @JakeLionsWorld
      @JakeLionsWorld Před 2 lety +2

      @@pissmilker2313 Maybe I confused things by bringing up the omnichord. I just mentioned that as a instrument of a similar function, since Techmoan seemed to be confused about an instrument that's primarily chords. Then I was talking about the full potential of the chordmachine, if you can indeed record chords and vocals to cassette on it at the same time. Two separate thoughts, maybe they got jumbled.

    • @macsnafu
      @macsnafu Před 2 lety +2

      @@JakeLionsWorld No, that's reasonable. Almost all home keyboards from the 80s (and on) included auto-accompaniment stuff with rhythms and chords, and included the regular keyboard for the player to play along with it. But very few of them included an internal recorder to record what was played. You'd usually have to plug it into a separate cassette recorder, or if you could afford it, one of those fancy multi-track cassette recorders. I didn't get a multi-track recorder until the early 90s. Before that, I was using 2 cassette recorders to bounce tracks and build up songs with multiple parts.

  • @TechBaffle
    @TechBaffle Před 2 lety +6

    I love that despite all the features, Sony still called it a FM/AM Stereo Cassette-corder

  • @brianartillery
    @brianartillery Před 2 lety +97

    I was amused by the warning, Matt. In my house lives an eight year old child whose sadistic teachers decided he should learn to play the violin. The sound of a cat being turned inside-out has ruined several weekend lie-ins. Shrill sounds? No problem.
    A friend had a Casio machine that looked like a boom box, but with a keyboard on the front - a very peculiar machine. I've looked, and it was the Casio KX-101. It looks even cooler/barking mad than I remember.
    I love that metallic drum sound caused by your router. It's the sort of thing that one of my favourite electronic groups, Cabaret Voltaire (Richard H. Kirk, RIP.), would have used.

    • @GLK-London
      @GLK-London Před 2 lety +3

      Lol!! I have been there with the violin !!

    • @TheFarSideOfNj
      @TheFarSideOfNj Před 2 lety +2

      At least it wasn't a recorder . . .

    • @brianartillery
      @brianartillery Před 2 lety +2

      @@TheFarSideOfNj - He was given the choice of the violin or the tuba. I think with the violin, we got off lucky. To hear the same 'Oompah, oompah' noises reprated ad infinitum would have been too much. As it is, I can forsee the violin getting 'accidentally' trodden or sat upon. The little lad doesn't like practising it, or is vaguely interested in learning to play, but the school said the children had to learn an instrument. The Triangle makes a pleasant noise, so I'm led to believe.

    • @TheFarSideOfNj
      @TheFarSideOfNj Před 2 lety

      @@brianartillery That depends on the triangle lol. The snare drum and certainly the cheap "bell" kits floating around schools these days are decidedly NOT pleasant. But a drum pad would be okay. Violins are tough for a variety of reason. Did they put little "dots" or stickers where the notes are to help? For a lot of young students that can get them going well enough so they can enjoy it.

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman Před 2 lety +1

      Ah, the joys of PARENTHOOD...😉

  • @boelwerkr
    @boelwerkr Před 2 lety +75

    I think this is an "Entertainer" machine. I can imagine them using something like that. We had a lot oft them in the 80s. Men between 40 and 70 having small shows in the local towns hall for three days and then moving on. They would sing and do magic tricks, telling jokes and funny stories. They collected the money directly at the entrance. That stopped in the middle of 90s.

    • @YearsOfLeadPoisoning
      @YearsOfLeadPoisoning Před 2 lety +16

      Entertainment sadly ended in the middle of the '90s.

    • @andreasu.3546
      @andreasu.3546 Před 2 lety +8

      @@YearsOfLeadPoisoning Now we have the internet.

    • @YearsOfLeadPoisoning
      @YearsOfLeadPoisoning Před 2 lety +9

      @@andreasu.3546 The what?

    • @andreasu.3546
      @andreasu.3546 Před 2 lety +10

      @@YearsOfLeadPoisoning Never mind, it's not gonna catch on anyway.

    • @andreasu.3546
      @andreasu.3546 Před 2 lety

      @@mycosys Not sure if the word is "practice" but it definitely begins with a 'P'.

  • @nunofernandes4501
    @nunofernandes4501 Před 2 lety +1

    Ah, another Saturday treat from our favourite consumer tech archaeologist!

  • @lo-firobotboy7112
    @lo-firobotboy7112 Před 2 lety +23

    I really, really want on of these!! It's has some similarities to the Omnichord and a couple classic Casio Keyboards from the same era. I can immediately see it being a useful tool for songwriting and contemporary lo-fi music.

    • @WaldoFindsYo
      @WaldoFindsYo Před 2 lety +1

      no

    • @lo-firobotboy7112
      @lo-firobotboy7112 Před 2 lety

      @@WaldoFindsYo No? No, I don't really want one? No, it doesn't remind me of my other old Casio and Suzuki instruments? No, I wouldn't enjoy making music with it? How could I be so wrong about all three of my thoughts? Thank you for setting me straight.

    • @WaldoFindsYo
      @WaldoFindsYo Před 2 lety

      @@lo-firobotboy7112 you will immensely regret the purchase

    • @WaldoFindsYo
      @WaldoFindsYo Před 2 lety +1

      an EG-5 casio guitar would probably be better for lo fi vibes

    • @lo-firobotboy7112
      @lo-firobotboy7112 Před 2 lety +2

      @@WaldoFindsYo I disagree. I collect and play oddball, obscure, and weird electronic instruments and musical toys. I instantly regretted buying a Dave Smith MoPho but have cherished my Fisher-Price Music Maker and Realistic Rhythm Box.
      Right now I'm on the hunt for a couple cheesy old organs like the Baldwin Discoverer or Bontempi POP3

  • @fredbloggs5902
    @fredbloggs5902 Před 2 lety +8

    Sting famously wrote ‘Message in a Bottle’ (1979) while on a bus, using a combination cassette recorder and drum machine.

  • @TheWeirdAlley
    @TheWeirdAlley Před 2 lety +17

    Techmoan, you should remake your "we're up all night to get lucky karaoke" on this device

  • @zappababe8577
    @zappababe8577 Před 2 lety +8

    I'm a keyboard player and I would dearly love to have a play around with this! I like the pitch-bend on the arpeggios, reminiscent of early Frank Zappa. The "finale" button to end your chord sequence is a nice touch. Can you record your voice whilst playing your chosen rhythm and chords as backing? There you have your melody, provided by your voice, together with the accompaniment, could be a lot of fun!

  • @silvermint45
    @silvermint45 Před 2 lety

    Ilove the you come up with weird and wonderful tech from the past. Please keep it coming.

  • @museum1401
    @museum1401 Před 2 lety +115

    I guess they were going for the "accompaniment" angle which was super popular on home keyboards, and probably why it's pictured with a guitar. With enough patience you could map out a whole song's worth of chords and drums (to tape) and then jam and sing over it. Pretty niche approach though with those big pads.

    • @IGD-974
      @IGD-974 Před 2 lety +7

      It's kind of like a musical "notebook" to get down ideas quickly. I couldn't imagine anyone trying to make a finished track with it but I could see it being useful.

    • @russellhltn1396
      @russellhltn1396 Před 2 lety +10

      Exactly. It seems to be aimed at the vocalist or guitarist who wanted something for backing - not something to do the melody. I'd hope you could use the tape recorder to record the synth to make it a simple/poor man's sequencer.

    • @CouchCoach
      @CouchCoach Před 2 lety +6

      I have known simmilar machines as "rhythm machines". You choose a rhythm, background melody, whatever to help you play your guitar or singing. Not sure if the machine can then record your playing, but that way you could make simple demo tapes. Sometimes street musicians use such machines. Of course there are way more advanced machines with different instruments, etc. but sometimes something simple is just enough.

    • @garyburginjr1366
      @garyburginjr1366 Před 2 lety +3

      I agree 100%.
      I remember these times and it seemed like everyone had a side gig accompanying people at some point lol

    • @decenio100
      @decenio100 Před 2 lety +7

      I also agree. Back in the day many guitarists kind of just focused on guitar and not so much keyboards. Something like this would enable someone to lay down a chord progression and then work out their own ideas on a bass or guitar. I also remember my first keyboard being a mini keyboard Casio that had a similar function for making chords... these items were great for wetting your appetite for music and getting your foot in the door so to speak.

  • @Thats_him_with_the_daft_hat

    Its looks limited nowadays, but if you had one of these and siblings/mate with a casio keyboard....then you could convince yourselves that you were a "Drawing Room Depeche mode" waiting for a breakthrough.

  • @mixedhairless
    @mixedhairless Před 2 lety +1

    Always a pleasure watching Techmoan on Saturday afternoon..

  • @mitkamag
    @mitkamag Před 2 lety

    The scenes from the street are pretty nice. Should have more of that. People from the whole world watch this and it's always good to know what surrounds their favourite blogger.

  • @scottblack9213
    @scottblack9213 Před 2 lety +143

    That is actually a fantastic songwriting tool - the chord pattern you've played is quite sophisticated. An amazing retro tool and fun for songwriters !

    • @imaner76
      @imaner76 Před 2 lety +1

      Nothing can emulate better than the real thing.

    • @Siarawaszympanemjest
      @Siarawaszympanemjest Před 2 lety +4

      I was just going to write that. If there is anything on the market today that resembles this device, either hardware or software I would buy it right away.

    • @NathanChisholm041
      @NathanChisholm041 Před 2 lety +2

      LOL no its not! Its terrible no one would use one...

    • @imaner76
      @imaner76 Před 2 lety +4

      @@NathanChisholm041 unless you wanted to emulate a specific 80's sound. So someone, would.

    • @TBoneProductionsVB
      @TBoneProductionsVB Před 2 lety +3

      @@Siarawaszympanemjest I mean I'd say midi MPC pads can do all of this and more. The Korg nanokeystudio for example. I use the Nanokey plugged into my phone running flstudio mobile. Very mobile and not expensive way to do these things.

  • @StupStups
    @StupStups Před 2 lety +147

    Watching you demonstrate the controls, it looks pretty versatile to me for a synth of that era. You can have single notes, straight chords or arpeggios, and it seems like one of the red buttons changes the chords from major to minor. Weird device but definitely looks like fun to play with.

    • @ramziel
      @ramziel Před 2 lety +14

      Agreed. It's a portable accompanist/recorder doubled as a stereo, probably aimed at hobbyist musicians.

    • @MrFooFighter13
      @MrFooFighter13 Před 2 lety +2

      Indeed, it a pretty capable little (big) box.

    • @thisisnev
      @thisisnev Před 2 lety +4

      As a hobbyist musician at the time, I'd have struggled to find a use for this. All but the most basic Casio or Yamaha keyboards are more versatile and intuitive.

    • @annother3350
      @annother3350 Před 2 lety +5

      versatile? It has only one sound!

    • @Shermanbay
      @Shermanbay Před 2 lety +13

      It looks like the synth chord functions are similar to the left hand buttons on a standard accordion. If so, think of what an accordion player can do with admittedly limited musical options, like playing polkas. And if you can play polkas, what else is there in the world to worry about?
      This gadget also reminds me of my full-size Wurlitzer theater organ, built in the 1980's. It has a similar rhythm section and some features like "magic fingers", an arpeggiating option. Such add-ons were common in the era, marketed to semi-musicians. The Sony would be more convenient to carry around than my 500-lb Wurlitzer, you bet.

  • @bentsound
    @bentsound Před 2 lety +1

    Those labels for clock location and expander placement, is a circuit bender's dream! I looked for this online and it must be quite rare! Another great video, thank you!

    • @nojuanatall3281
      @nojuanatall3281 Před rokem +1

      Go on sendico. Seeing how it's Japan only you'll have to hit up yahoo auctions and the like. Best of luck... and get me one!

  • @johnhayward7173
    @johnhayward7173 Před 2 lety

    Nice to see you out on location. I never noticed the delightful old bank building at Parbold before.

  • @A_Casual_NPC
    @A_Casual_NPC Před 2 lety +23

    You really should try to some high quality recordings of the varies drumloops and sounds this thing makes and release them as a sample pack for producers. The fact it comes from a device like this is enough to make it super awesome.

    • @ExperimentIV
      @ExperimentIV Před 2 lety +2

      yeah, i’d definitely buy this sample pack!

  • @RetroGameStream
    @RetroGameStream Před 2 lety +65

    I'm not sure it would have been useful, but as a musician I would have loved one to play around with. I could certainly see using it for a very basic song sketching tool. Could be useful for lofi or vaporwave music as well.

    • @maksphoto78
      @maksphoto78 Před 2 lety

      You can play around with MIDI ^_^

    • @ericvernooij2917
      @ericvernooij2917 Před 2 lety +1

      It'd be great to have the sounds of this as a sample pack. Especially the drums.

    • @jhonbus
      @jhonbus Před 2 lety +1

      It feels like they missed a trick really. If it had a proper sequencer, better integration with the tape (eg for a tape loop) and some way to change that sound a bit, even just a high/low pass filter, this thing could have ended up a techno classic. Maybe adjust the tempo range towards the higher end as well.

  • @Perfektionist
    @Perfektionist Před 2 lety +1

    I really like the intro and the music from the machine to it. Great work!

  • @gpoop23
    @gpoop23 Před 2 lety

    This is such a great piece of technology for reminding us the kind of crazy built-for-one-job machines that people made back before they would have just ended up as phone apps. I don't know why, but when you opened the compartment on the speakers and started pulling the cable out I lost it. There was just something delightfully retro about that whole scene.

  • @petrushka1611
    @petrushka1611 Před 2 lety +107

    From a fairly accomplished classical musician...you stuck the landing at around 15:26. If you ended the "song" that way on accident, then it was a happy accident. If you chose that sequence on purpose, you've got a pretty good ear. Either way, it was quite satisfying.
    I also can't believe some big-name producer hasn't caught onto this thing. Someone who practiced at it could make some neat music.

    • @Techmoan
      @Techmoan  Před 2 lety +72

      It was deliberate, but I’m not sure there was much skill involved.

    • @edmatzenik9858
      @edmatzenik9858 Před 2 lety +6

      It's surprising how few instruments can play chords. Guitars and keyboards, that's about it as far as getting someone to play chords in a band. There aren't too many jazz autoharpists around, or three-bore clarinets. You'd think someone would've invented some more options by now.

    • @amyshaw893
      @amyshaw893 Před 2 lety +12

      @@edmatzenik9858 *angry ukulele playing*

    • @amyshaw893
      @amyshaw893 Před 2 lety +9

      @@ps5hasnogames55 im sure hawaii will be very pleased with that assessment of an instrument that has become part of their culture

    • @amyshaw893
      @amyshaw893 Před 2 lety +8

      @@ps5hasnogames55 I don't live in America either? It was introduced to the island in the late 1870s, which seems like it would be before your time, so I'm not sure how your nationality would affect the ukulele's cultural impact. I'm curious what you think separates a "kids toy" from a "real instrument"

  • @OofusTwillip
    @OofusTwillip Před 2 lety +18

    This reminds me of the electronic organs sold by Thomas and Bontempi, in the 1960s-80s. My grandma had a Thomas organ with a 2-octave keyboard and 3 banks of chord buttons: Major, Minor, and 7th. Your right hand played the melody on the keyboard, while your left hand played the chord buttons. This made it much easier to play than a standard keyboard.

    • @blitzy99
      @blitzy99 Před 2 lety +2

      Didn't they used to give those away as prizes in The Price is Right during Bob Barker's long reign?

  • @NathanBaerreis
    @NathanBaerreis Před 2 lety

    This belongs in Look Mum No Computer's museum! Great job as always!

  • @MinuitDeLacroix
    @MinuitDeLacroix Před 2 lety +1

    I love your videos. Thank you for creating this awesome series!!

  • @organfairy
    @organfairy Před 2 lety +33

    This seems to be a beginners version of an Roland Pro-E, or an Elka Wilgamat or OMB-3, or a Böhm Böhmat, or a Wersi Wersimatic - all keyboards that do nothing but automatic accompaniment. They are all meant for using with another instrument to play the melody or to sing to.

    • @prokesuk
      @prokesuk Před 2 lety +1

      The Pro-E does a lot more than auto accompaniment. At least I have used mine for more than that. I don't use it at all in that manner.

  • @fab1604
    @fab1604 Před 2 lety +74

    This device is CRAZY, so many possibilities, I would have loved it as a kid. Thanks for sharing as usual

    • @matthewhilty4209
      @matthewhilty4209 Před 2 lety +1

      I would have loved this thing as a kid hours and hours of fun. I am still trying to find my old Casio keyboard with the beats.

    • @lo-firobotboy7112
      @lo-firobotboy7112 Před 2 lety +1

      @@matthewhilty4209 I'd love to have one now!

  • @davidmccourt4674
    @davidmccourt4674 Před 2 lety

    Those opening shots are Parbold! Didn't know you were so close to where I grew up. Thanks for another very enjoyable video mate 👍

  • @NeoAnthony
    @NeoAnthony Před rokem +4

    It seems like a cool jamming machine. I would use it to record a sketch of a song, or practice with a pre-recorded backing track. I could also record the chords from the chord machine, then plug my guitar, and then do some vocals. Very nice device!

  • @AmyDaisy69
    @AmyDaisy69 Před 2 lety +24

    This is a very interesting device, it's amazing how you keep coming up with completely random stuff I had no idea existed. One thing I immediately noticed was the proximity of the speaker and the tape deck when closed. I would not leave a tape in the deck!

    • @the_max
      @the_max Před 2 lety

      And I guess they are not magnetically shielded speakers 😁 😁

    • @chickenfizz
      @chickenfizz Před 2 lety +3

      well spotted, the tape head probably doesn't like it much either, I wonder if that's why it sounds so dull (I assumed it was just out of alignment)

  • @joshmaresch811
    @joshmaresch811 Před 2 lety +79

    I can't help but feel there are a lot more features of this synth that you missed, which is obviously through no fault of your own.
    I'm definitely going to go out and buy one and have a play round. It looks like so much fun!
    Thanks for posting!

    • @MrTaxiRob
      @MrTaxiRob Před 2 lety +5

      @@mycosys yes, this. Seems like a portable practice space in one handy case

    • @lobsterwhisperer7932
      @lobsterwhisperer7932 Před 2 lety

      like the electric guitar, this is made for it.

  • @JImmY1982MinG
    @JImmY1982MinG Před 2 lety

    Love the site scenes at the beginning of the video! Please do more.

  • @popsfreshenmeyer7607
    @popsfreshenmeyer7607 Před 2 lety

    That intro was almost as good as the Tape Cleaner Commercial. This one is more on the eerie side, still pretty cool tho. I also love the puppets whenever they are featured! Thanks for making these videos :)

  • @zemantwo
    @zemantwo Před 2 lety +9

    Thanks for this video! I enjoy watching you repair and demonstrate old tech like this. I miss the early 80's when manufacturers seemed to experiment by releasing rather odd units like this.

    • @marafolse8347
      @marafolse8347 Před 2 lety

      I recommend Teenage Engineering for this sort of whimsical experimentation in tech these days

  • @519MaLoNeY
    @519MaLoNeY Před 2 lety +9

    That’s outstanding!!
    There’s no better way to bring out creativity than to introduce limitations on the creation. I bet some crazy good stuff has come out of those things.

  • @jennoscura2381
    @jennoscura2381 Před 2 lety +3

    I have gotten into synths. At first glance I thought it would be cool to have a Chordmachine. But given how limited the synth section is; it wouldn't be worth it. That said; if I stumbled across one for cheap; I would buy it. But I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to look for it.
    Thanks again Matt for introducing me unusual tech I never knew existed.

  • @panaceiasuberes6464
    @panaceiasuberes6464 Před 2 lety

    The sort of video that deserves 10 million views just for the effort.

  • @TheSektorz
    @TheSektorz Před 2 lety +15

    "Warning: This video contains annoying shrill sounds"
    no worries, I've been watching a lot of Netflix stand-up comedy lately

  • @jonglass
    @jonglass Před 2 lety +8

    This is the most "un-Sony" thing I've ever seen from Sony...
    The construction, the functionality--everything

  • @viktoriosostar4157
    @viktoriosostar4157 Před 2 lety

    Simon the magpie would have a field day with this one. Great video as usual and keep up the great work!

  • @TheNoisyNinja72
    @TheNoisyNinja72 Před 2 lety

    So this is how it works! My brother in law has one of these tucked away at the parents house in Japan, and I've always been curious about it. Will need to pull it out of storage and see how well it works on the next visit.

  • @vacantplanet
    @vacantplanet Před 2 lety +5

    You walking by the canal, holding an unidentified red box, made my day

  • @Will-fn7bz
    @Will-fn7bz Před 2 lety +16

    I LOVE these vids about obscure electronics like this, especially when they are from mega companies like Sony. It's as if they said 'Let's try this. If it doesn't fly who cares.'

  • @nerdtvch5
    @nerdtvch5 Před 2 lety

    Not gonna lie, I love these videos, they're so educational.

  • @markmooch
    @markmooch Před 2 lety +1

    The ‘chord’ bit is a band in a box type thing, for making your own accompaniment which you could use live or record to tape, either with own compositions, common chord progressions that musicians find useful or creating backing tracks to any number of different songs without having to pay for expensive custom made songs. This kind of feature is found in many keyboards. Then you can listen to the radio to find your latest inspiration, saves a lot of space compared to having a separate keyboard and guitar amp and hifi. Quite neat really. Obviously for kids beginner level sophistication.

  • @tjimicole2677
    @tjimicole2677 Před 2 lety +4

    Man: Desperately seeks to review every music format on earth.
    Also Man: "I'm not musically minded."

    • @JC20XX
      @JC20XX Před 2 lety +1

      I know what he means though. He's obviously a big fan of music and audio.

  • @robertlawrence9000
    @robertlawrence9000 Před 2 lety +6

    Interesting! Looks like another pretty good quality made Sony product. I remember in the 1980's a lot of different digital keyboard type sound machines like this. I had some different lower quality ones as a kid. My friends and I had different ones we would play around with. I could imagine a younger me in awe if I seen one of these. Thanks for sharing!

  • @David.C.Velasquez
    @David.C.Velasquez Před 2 lety

    OMG The faq is gold! Lovely video as always sir.

  • @Hikikomorisama
    @Hikikomorisama Před rokem +4

    This device is now a trophy for PlayStation star members lol

  • @ThePerradox
    @ThePerradox Před 2 lety +5

    Loved the walkin intro and it's tunage, brilliant :)

  • @madgebishop5409
    @madgebishop5409 Před 2 lety +4

    there was something very "John Shuttleworth" about the start of this video

  • @kultur-vultur
    @kultur-vultur Před 2 lety

    I truly appreciate this channel Techmoan, I enjoy your puppets, the gadgets, and overall your a great host. Surprised I hadn't subbed til today my bad.

  • @robertcurtis3815
    @robertcurtis3815 Před 2 lety

    One of your fellow CZcamsrs Look Mum No Computer.... That dude would just love the opportunity to retro re rock the world with this beautiful obscure tech! X

  • @kidthorazine
    @kidthorazine Před 2 lety +5

    This definitely feels like something meant for singer songwriters to use for making demos. There's a ton of software nowadays that is basically a somewhat more advanaced version of this.

  • @uzaiyaro
    @uzaiyaro Před 2 lety +19

    God you know it’s well made when after 40 years, some minor servicing is all that’s needed to fix it. This is on crappy paper type PCBs as well, so it’s always surprised me.

  • @cantybrad
    @cantybrad Před 6 měsíci

    come back a couple times for that intro just gold.

  • @NDahlonline
    @NDahlonline Před 2 lety

    for the time this seems like an awesome device to quickly record song ideas, get the general vibe of the chords and the song in order to do a proper version later in the studio. Well done sony.

  • @robob3ar
    @robob3ar Před 2 lety +9

    Yeah plugging in a guitar and play along the chords seems like a great idea, I wouldn’t mind using one
    Btw loving this channel more and more, interesting documentary type and I feel I’m learning something :) great job overall
    Oh yeah loved the intro, intriguing and calming :) - is the box the thing you are gonna talk about, or are you just carrying a random box

  • @chrislox1
    @chrislox1 Před 2 lety +4

    That drum sound was lovely!

  • @enilenis
    @enilenis Před 2 lety

    Love every gadget from that era. Never heard of this specific machine. I stopped retro collecting, when I ran out of storage space, so I rely on Techmoan giving me my fix, for what I've been missing out on.

  • @FRANK45CASTLE
    @FRANK45CASTLE Před 2 lety

    Good find! This will be an antique before you know it, it almost is! Never seen it before but I love the kid on the box, totally radical!!

  • @pnnorton
    @pnnorton Před 2 lety +16

    This was certainly for a type of karaoke where you don't need to buy karaoke tapes. If you had a chord book or new some chords to your favourite song you could easily auto accompany yourself. I mean you could just use a guitar or a piano for the same purpose but I guess this has a bit of a beat at least.
    One correction is that you say it only plays one note at a time when it actually seems to be capable of playing chords with multiple notes voiced together. Which may have made it somewhat cutting edge at the type compared to monophonic synths.

  • @luciandragos8556
    @luciandragos8556 Před 2 lety +3

    That Radio timing killed me xD very apt indeed xD

  • @nojuanatall3281
    @nojuanatall3281 Před rokem

    This thing I awesome. As a musician I could totally find great applications for this device.

  • @fallinsideahole
    @fallinsideahole Před 2 lety +1

    oh wow, I REALLY love the sounds this thing makes, and I would LOVE to hear it coming off that cassette recorder. I wonder if someone could get the cassette and radio output tied back into that mic input

  • @nonax3662
    @nonax3662 Před 2 lety +5

    It is obviously for jamming or karaoke. I presume you can record a sequence of chords and let it be played back in a loop (not from the tape, but from memory). That way you can play or sing along the melody along with the chords that are being played.

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff Před 2 lety +211

    7:16 - you really need to add a little new solder to get a decent joint. And reflow all 3 joints as if one is fractured there's a good chance the others will be

    • @app0the
      @app0the Před 2 lety +13

      And preferably with leaded solder just for longevity, as long as you take care to not breathe it

    • @AaronSmart.online
      @AaronSmart.online Před 2 lety +58

      @@app0the Most the smoke from solder is the flux, regardless of type (still not great for you, but not a heavy metal). It's not like the lead is turning into gas when you heat it with an iron.

    • @Techmoan
      @Techmoan  Před 2 lety +245

      and with solder blessed by the Pope
      …on Mars

    • @app0the
      @app0the Před 2 lety +17

      @@AaronSmart.online Makes sense. I'm just trying to make up a reason for myself to not go into another rant about how RoHS is just another conspiracy to make everything last just a little bit and then have all the joints crack or develop whiskers :p

    • @juhasznagyjozsef
      @juhasznagyjozsef Před 2 lety +21

      @@Techmoan praise the Omnissiah.

  • @clivesilk3501
    @clivesilk3501 Před 2 lety

    you gotta love the 80's !! that really is the oddest machine ive ever seen! what a combo tape/radio/drum machine /keyboard / !!!! i love it

  • @aaronmurphy2654
    @aaronmurphy2654 Před 2 lety

    It may be an unusual device but It's a gorgeous looking piece of classic sony kit ❤

  • @ChunghongChan
    @ChunghongChan Před 2 lety +8

    In traditional Indian Music, there is a musical instrument called "shruti box" which do something very similar (playing chords). There are also modern electronic shruti boxes.

  • @michaelharrison1093
    @michaelharrison1093 Před 2 lety +4

    I recognize that IC702 - that is from Texas Instruments and is a precursor of their TMS320 DSP (digital signal processor). There is a Wikipedia page for the TMS320 that explains what it is. It makes sense that this made its way into this device. Around the same time as this the TMS320 also gained popularity due to its adoption into the Yamaha DX7? Synthesizer.

  • @danr2652
    @danr2652 Před 2 lety +1

    17:08 right timing as the chordmachine fights talks back through a radio station like a spirit box.

  • @Jimyjames73
    @Jimyjames73 Před 2 lety +1

    Very good Matt - thank you - I've never seen or heard of the Chord machine b4 - Looks very fun thou!!!🙂🚂🚂🚂