kd going to request trade back to okc now they have ton of draft assets, young tradeable players, and 2 stars in Sga and chet. Mark my words, he going try and be like lebron going back to cavs
So KD should’ve stayed with OKC allowing Russ to derail his career? KD Steph and Lebron played in 2 finals, where KD got BOTH finals MVP’s but he’s considered the worst. Stop lying. This is why the NBA is 💀
Didnt play lebron, year later did...and lost. So to sum up warriors are 1-2 vs lebron without kd, only win because of injuries and 2-0 with him. Thats y got him
@@xavierb9061 go back and watch that film 😂 guess who was freeing KD up with his gravity. Steph lol Steph got double the chips and more MVP’s. Don’t act like Steph was a slouch in them series. You say Steph could beat bron? Cool. KD couldn’t beat Steph, gave up a 3-1 lead to em and then joined. But hey “if you can’t beat em, join em” lol
what did he asked?? durant just wants to be a contender and he was even with the nets drama they were a contender and almost won against the bucks.. even last year with the suns they were the only team who had a chance to beat the nuggets every other teams are either a 1 win or sweep
It's also interesting to wonder what would have happened if they hadn't traded away the picks that were used to draft Draymond Green, Kyle Kuzma, Jaylen Brown and some scrub named Damian Lillard. 🤔 🙄. None of the picks they got in return panned out
The Nets with Harden Durant and Irving are the biggest what if in Nba history. The only problem was at that time Kyrie who didn’t want it to play. But Harden was in a role like today with the Clips. The best for him.
the beal trade was so so so unneccesary i think its got some parallels with the Lakers Westbrook trade (third star, huge contract making free agent signings difficult, etc) the beal fit does feel better than the westbrook fit tho, and i wanna be optimistic and hope that they'll just figure it out...
💯 I think whoever signed off on that trade has to cop blame for where the Suns are right now and if KD was one of those people, he deserves a lot of the smoke he's getting right now. Imagine what the Suns could have done to actually improve their squad with the resources they spent on that Beal trade. The same thing happened in Brooklyn. The Nets did not need Harden and they actually weakened their team by adding him. KD should not be allowing these crappy trades to go through. He should have the influence to talk the front office out of these terrible moves, I don't know why he isn't using that influence.
The KD trade gutted all their assets. The Beal trade was a nail in the coffin for their assets. The new CBA will kill their ability to fill out their roster considering they have three players getting paid 50+ million.
You can thank the greatest owner of all time, Mat Ishba and James Jones. 60+ win season the year prior with growing players and chemistry... I'm sick of this team basketball. Let's go for some superstars. How can we lose? we have Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, and Kevin Durant. (No Future first round picks until 2029🤨) Seriously, I didn't think getting a new owner would make this much of an impact on a team, but Mats roster construction is alarming.
The new mould in the NBA is 2 All-Stars (with at least 1 being an All-NBA player, ideally a top 10 player in the league) and surrounding the two with quality role players. The Big 3 plan severely limits how many good role players you can get. Especially when youre aquiring your stars through trade which means youre giving up assets youll need to bring in role players for those stars. Every team thats won a NBA Championship since the KD warriors has been a 2 star team with really good role players. Toronto had Leonard, Siakam. The Lakers had Davis and Lebron, Bucks Giannis and Middleton, ect.... Pheonix is doomed to fail lol. They have no assets, no flexibility, and 2 out of their 3 stars are injury prone while one could ask for a trade the moment he realizes things are getting tough.
He really couldn’t help himself. The feeling of people invalidating your legacy to then decide to leave and show you can do it without curry will forever be his downfall besides leaving okc. Could have 4 or 5 if he stuck with Golden State honestly
I honestly think the team would be better if they hadn’t made the Beal trade. They’d have those assets and could’ve used them to trade for better role players instead. Chris Paul definitely isn’t what he used to be but he could also still help a lot in playmaking. Instead of an injured Beal, they could have any of Jerami Grant, Matisse Thybulle, Royce O’Neal, Robert Williams III, etc and any of them would’ve been hugely beneficial for this team
While i agree, RW3 is missing the whole year due to surgery/injury. That said, I think RW3 i is the most fun player to watch do his thing with the dunks, oops, and his incredible touch passing.
yup.. why would they want to have the same team as the nets where most superstars they had had the same roles.. its really dumb now they have problems with who really is the true PG.. but i believe the cp3 and ayton trade was correct the problem was what they got for both.. cp3 really wont contribute in the playoffs its already a proven thing same as ayton who becomes much worse come playoffs time.. beal is the only stinky player right now in phoenix that they shouldnt have gotten
Yea it was the most unnecessary trade ever. Beal is redundant when you already have kd and booker as scorers. Cp3 could bring his playmaking and leadership while playing as many games or more than what Beal would play.
Every time KD goes somewhere that team ends up making an unnecessary trade and then clowns like this CZcamsr come out and say KD done it😂. Thats not a coincidence. 🤦🏾♂️
The reputation LeBron has is the person KD is. The team hopping, the GM'ing, the sensitivity, the complaining, when Skip Bayless describes LeBron he is actually describing KD. KD is like Brons shadow.
@@XLgameBROAt least LeBron has shown he can carry a team to the finals. KD’s had more help than any other player in NBA history and would be ringless if he didn’t take the easy way out and join the Warriors who would’ve won those championships without him.
he demands alot of resources?? the fuck did you check suns roster when he was traded there?? they were still big4 composed of KD, cp3, ayton and booker thats a championship team.. problem with that is both cp3 and ayton plays poorly in the playoffs..
@@jeffreym.8957He is saying that in the hypothetical that KD somehow did end up on the Nuggets, and they were to win a title, and KD were to play better than Jokic and get a FMVP, Jokic would get more credit for taking a back seat to let KD play his game. Just like Steph did when they won in GSW, instead of KD just getting credit for being the hooper we all know he can be.
I think if he had won a championship in Brooklyn, that would've been the best legacy stop. Bringing some rings to NYC would make you a legend there. Great video!
@@NightlingboltTbf luck also has to do why they didnt win it all in BK. Just Kyrie being healthy for the rest of that bucks series would’ve guaranteed a trip to the finals at the very least, and tbh, Brooklyn definitely would’ve won against the Suns that year. Its just unfortunate.
@@PVMMAC huh?? KD almost singlehandedly destroyed bucks, if kyrie wasnt injured its high chance for them to win.. ofcourse its not guaranteed but 99% is high enough
The funny thing is they replicated what the Nets did with Harden. They had some good pieces around Durant and Booker and maybe just needed a tweak rather than gut out the depth.
what depth?? they only trade cp3 and shamet and future picks.. those players wont help them win anything and thats a proven fact.. would you rather have those 2 than beal?? their current team isnt awful they still above .500 they only need to be healthy and thats much better than playing with CP3 and ayton
@@TambayLogicthey're only 1 or 2 games above sitting currently at the 9seed in the west. The way they've been playing that's roughly where they're gonna stay too, the west is too talented the way the suns are built. There's still time sure but if you gutted your whole roster to bring in 2 aging stars in KD and Beal just to barely make the play-in you'd be worried
The thing I love about these Durant teams is they act like they need three superstars as if Kevin Durant being the number one and whoever your one B guy is isn’t gonna be able to do enough with 3 and D guys around him. The the funniest part is the fact he left golden state to get it on his own and he can’t do it without recruiting 2 other superstars 😂😭😭
the funny part is GSW being a superteam still need to recruit KD to beat lebron and heck they even added cousins just to make their team a 5 man superteam.. GSW recruited KD and not the other way around.. its not like KD is the only one creating superteams
KD has spent his career running from the grind and accountability and he’s the most coddled star of all time. No player has played with as many stars and all time greats, and he’s got 2 rings to show for it. Ppl are so mesmerized by his talent. And by god is he talented, he’s always lacked as a leader, I’ve never seen someone get as many excuses made for them as KD.
he spent 9 years in OKC as the best player thats enough time spent on a team to think about your own legacy.. by that time money isnt the main thing its all about winning.. its just people like you are salty because KD silenced every single team in the league and made them look like college teams even with lebron in it.. KD had a once in a lifetime chance of playing with high chance of winning do you really think he would pass that up?? cause if you ask me if GSW gave that offer to lebron he would go immediately..
@@TambayLogic he could’ve gone to other teams that would’ve given him a chance to win a title. He chose the team that went 73-9 and beat him after he was up on them 3-1. He could’ve gon to Miami, Boston. Could’ve played with Pop and Kawhi with the Spurs. I hate that ppl act like the only contending team that he could’ve gone to was GS, he took meetings with all those teams I just mentioned. All good situations to build his OWN team and legacy. Instead he joined on budding dynasty, a back to back to MVP. The team that actually became the western conference team of the decade when before they emerged everyone assumed that that would be the thunder. So please save it lol
@@leothelion2593 was he wrong then?? winning is winning.. do you think if lebron has the cap space for KD he wont recruit the dude?? even today?? if given the chance lebron would want to recruit as much star power just to win rings.. if he could clamp giannis jokic and embiid with lebron together he would do it.. just accept the fact that every player and or a team wants to recruit the most they can.. if he joined miami would they win?? nope.. GSW has the highest probability its all about logic and most low intellect people who goes with feelings rather than brain fail to get..
@@TambayLogic yeah he went to the place that gave him the highest probability, and he did that bc that’s all that matters right? Then why’d he leave? He left bc he wasn’t being respected for those high probability rings. Bc he knew GS would always be Steph’s franchise bc he’d won it before KD got there. Steph got a ring after he left, the smart thing to do would’ve been to stay with what was working, where was his “logic” then. You’ve been on this post glazing him, but even KD don’t believe the stuff you saying. He chose the path of least resistance bc deep down he didn’t feel like he could get it done as the primary leader of a team. Since he’s left he spent his time complaining, and begging for more star power. Meanwhile Steph has won again. Steph is LeBron’s rival for this era. Not KD. Steph is the 2nd best player of their era. Not KD. And KD hates that fact. Bc KD was the unicorn blue chip prospect, who everyone said was going to be the greatest offensive player of all time. The Thunder made the finals and everyone thought they were the dynasty in waiting, KD won MVP and said he was tired of being number 2 to LeBron, they were gonna define the decade. Then a small light skinned barely recruited, point guard that went to Davidson and was drafted late in lottery came and did everything KD thought he himself was going to do. Steph smacked him in the WCF. And just as fast as yall say Draymond called KD after the finals, KD couldn’t answer that phone fast enough. He joined em, and thought that his star power and natural talent was going to dim Steph’s light, but it didn’t, and he couldn’t stand it. He left thinking that without him GS was done, tried to recreate it with Kyrie, failed miserably and then he got to see Steph hoist yet another trophy without him. KD is very talented but he wasted it and he’s gonna have to settle for the bronze medal of that era.
why in the world would a superstar like KD want to be traded to the spurs?? thats a small market team and it would hurt his marketability.. in the history of spurs who the fuck did go there as a superstar?? its either they were drafted there like duncan or traded while developing like kawhii.. as for boston i dont think they are a winning team..
@@TambayLogic because before Steph ppl were just clamoring to get to golden state? The spurs were a dynasty, and you skipped over when he mentioned Boston. Lol
@@leothelion2593 we are talking about 2016 onwards just move on dude you still living way beyond the past.. the spurs were a dynasty but that doesnt change the fact that they were a small market team and that would hurt him financially.. and for boston they werent that much of a contender back then.. he wouldve carried that team the same way he carries most of his team today
@@TambayLogic this must be a KD burner account. Well let’s look forward then, KD is never winning a ring again. Those are the facts. He bummed some rings off GSW that’s great for him, but he’s not getting credit for winning rings with a team who won just as many without him and broke the single season win record. The end lol
Had been following this channel for a long time but recently have not seen recent video, glad im back here! But i notice something, did you gain alittle? 😂 Apologise but yea
OKC built beautifully around him when he got drafted. they made one wrong move with not paying harden but besides that they always set themselves up well to constantly improve their roster. he shouldve stayed. golden state was a done deal beforee he got there so him going there just made them unbeatable and he decided to leave and ever since then hes been fucking his own career up. it hasnt worked anywhere else
Agreed, he should have stayed in an organization like OKC bc of how well run we are. However, I am of the belief that if KD never left, Sam Presti wouldn't have made his final evolution as a general manager. I think right now Sam Presti has learned about everything you need to know to build a championship team. KD leaving taught him the downfalls of not managing money correctley, how to manage superstars with weird personalities, and how to rebuild a team from former glory. KD leavibg forced Presti to really get creative in ways I think Presti never expected to have to be, that's why I believe in him to create a championship winning roster with this group of guys. If KD never left maybe Presti wouldn't have ever learned those necessary lessons.
true presti and OKC benefitted logistically from durants departure, but i remember in 2016 during FA, the ibaka trade got the thudner oladipo who was still on a rookie deal, adams was still on his rookie deal, they had tons of cap space and if westbrook and durant committed then al horford wouldve signed. westbrook oladipo, durant horford and adams?? @@athunderfan
@@FledgedPhoenix durant wasn’t efficient in the playoffs with westbrook either. it was more roberson than westbrook. they should’ve beat the warriors in game 6 if durant showed up. they were actually perfect complements to one another. westbrook kept the pace up leading to easier fast break points while durant handled the half court offense
They may have gotten him for a steal, but the Suns never should have done the Beal trade. They now have no draft assets and their salary cap is clogged with just three players. Adding depth will be very difficult for them too. I really wouldn't be shocked if Durant eventually demanded a trade out of Phoenix.
I think he absolutely is the proble. He's shown that when you give him input on creating the roster of a team, he doesn't know what works well around him. He consistently wants to play with smaller high-skill guys who aren't good defenders. GSW worked for him, because they had guys like Draymond and Iggy on defense. He hasn't tried teaming with stars who are actually amazing defensive players, and furthermore, he burns so many resources getting redundant skill players - like Beal/Harden- that they can't bring in really good defensive guys around him. A good comp is LeBron; he's certainly made some bad decisions in team-building, pushing for the Russ trade and giving up KCP/Kuzma, etc to do so, when KCP & Kuzma are both probably better players RN than Russ and would've helped the Lakers win more in following years. But on the other side of that, he understands he needs shooting around him, and a top tier rim protector so he can play his help defense roll and kick to open guys, which worked really well on the Cavs teams he helped build, and some of these Lakers teams. KD is clearly significantly less self-aware. He's hurt his legacy a lot at this point. Even the only 2 times he won he teamed up with Steph to take down LeBron. #2 and #3 best players in the world at the time, literally on the same team. They were such heavy favorites that placing money on them to win the championship actually lost you money... Since then it's repeated failures and trade demands. The 2022 title puts him under Steph all time, and his frustration in moments like this just make him so unlikeable because we all know he signed off on the Beal trade, and we all know that this Suns roster is as thin and defensively flawed as it is because of the move for KD and the moves that KD actively supported. First round exit at best.
how sure are you that KD was the one who pushed for beal?? in the end of the day its still the managements prerogative on who they put on the team.. and harden to the nets wasnt a bad deal.. its just that they have injuries back then.. if they were fully healthy even if they play the same roles i would still believe they would destroy most of the teams in the NBA
If Durant had thought of players who could play defense and of a team that fit his abilities, could he have seen more success or even a title post-Golden State?
Literally any team would trade for the guy if they have the assets. His career has been really weird, but hes still one the best 20 basketball players of all time.
If he asks out again his legacy will be tarnished beyond measure. Great player, great guy, decent teammate but fragile mentality that is extremely distracting for a franchise. He needs to finish his career in Phoenix. His stats will never look as good as they will be when it’s all said and done if he spends half of his career looking for the best place.
I think the problem is that he wants the perfect situation. But it’s based on how he wants it to feel. 1. He wants to be “the man” ( agreed that OKC was his best “man” moment). 2. He wants to play the way he wants to play and be surrounded by perfect teammates who allow that to happen. 3. He wants recognition, credit and success for his play, his leadership, and his team. Then he’s disappointed when it doesn’t feel right or work the way he envisioned. At this rate, he’ll be searching till he retires. It’s all too amorphous and vague.
he was "the man" in every team he played.. he was in OKC, in GSW as per FMVP's, and heck even in NETs.. and now he is also proving himself as "the man" in suns.. and who the heck wouldnt want to be surrounded by perfect teammates?? lebron does that every single season since he first left cavs.. even giannis always wants to trade teammates just to contend every season.. everything you are saying is based on what you feel..
@@TambayLogic Feel cant carry consistency. That is the flaw of his ego. Lebron might be flopping around but he understand how to be consistent. KD cant, because he feeling too much.
Those teams were bad not because he's there but because he was running the teams. It is exceptionally rare for an active player to be even remotely competent when it comes to coaching or roster construction. KD is not an exception. In OKC everyone had him top 2 or top 3 player in the league and now hardly anyone even thinks of him because of how irrelevant his teams have been last 4 seasons. He deserves no empathy. His legacy will be far behind LeBron or Steph and probably behind Giannis and Jokic as well at this point as there won't be a city who will cherish his name once he retires.
Root of all KD's bad decisions and ultimately why he is here now is pride and envy. He was looking at Lebron's legacy, and at the same time was not content with the accolades the media was not giving him with the wins in GSW, which now led to domino effect of bad decisions after bad decisions. His frame of thought was just not putting him in the right path.
Root is bad luck..westbrook took morw ahots when kd was mvp..heat big 3 steph caught hurt lebron team...vaccine kyriw no wiggins yes...injuries klay kyrie harden
@@DAV3RAG3 Who’s better is irrelevant. Lebron was undisputedly the reason his teams won (not one, dumbass!), and KD didn’t feel that way about himself and the Warriors, which is why he went to Brooklyn with Kyrie.
People still blaming KD for the nets situation is crazy. Kyrie ain't wanna play, harden leaves, then they get a guy in ben simmons who can't even suit up.
The thing that, in my opinion, tarnishes the KD Legacy the most is this: The GSW won it all before KD. They won it all after KD (with the same core as they had before him). Meanwhile, KD has done nothing but disappoint since he left the GSW. I'm not saying that he's a bad player or anything like that. What I am saying is that KD can't be the leader on a championship team. He's said himself that he just wants to play basketball and he does that incredibly well. But just being a good player isn't enough to be a champion. The team needs a leader, someone who brings guys together and gives them that spark, fire and coordination. That to me is why KD, despite being a more skilled player, will never be a better player than Steph or Lebron. Those guys could lead teams and take them all the way multiple times. KD can't do it once. KD"s problem is what I always cautioned my troopers about when I was an NCO. The grass always looks greener, another unit/MOS always looks better. But the fact is that most of the time, at least 50% of your problems in your current situation are generated or worsened by YOU. Fix yourself first, then look to fix what you can around you. If you want to keep running to something else because it looks better, that's just another form of quitting and you'll build a quitter's mentality that will forever make it difficult to succeed. KD is the guy that always feels like the grass is greener somewhere else and runs from a tough situation to what he perceives to be easier, not realizing that 50% or more of his problems are related to himself and therefore will follow him wherever he goes.
Superteams don't work. Team hopping doesn't work. It almost never does. The only reason it's a criticism for elite players in the modern NBA is because Lebron won by doing it. But based on other's results we can kind of all agree that Lebron won because he was Lebron...
superteams only work when you have great team system where superstars compliment each other like steph, not like Westbrook who needs the ball a lot to do well. The suns got 3 players who need the ball in their hand a lot, same skillsets..
If he was smart, he would have asked to be traded to Miami. Granted they would have to give up the kitchen sink, but at least they would have some identity. KD at best is a marksman, not a centerpiece. Doesn’t negate is stature, just shows how hard it is to assemble a winning team
Let’s face it, all things being equal, Kevin Durant massively improves any team he joins. You can’t place the blame on him for the Suns making a bad trade. There is no legacy question among non-casuals: Kevin Durant is one of the best basketball players who ever lived, and he is almost certainly among the top five greatest scoring threats ever.
Dude is ring chasing hard and I think he jumps ship this trade deadline or next one and reconsiders his building approach. Grab a dude in FA, not by sending out all the stuff you went to the team for in the first place. Indy might be a good spot just because they have the depth to trade Hield, Brown, Smith, and Mathurin and still have really good players out of the rotation.
why would he leave the suns and go to indiana when they are currently almost the same win lose record?? people like you and the media panic alot more than the real SUNS or KD fans who isnt even bothered.. try telling that to lebron cause he ring chase alot more and his team is more likely a play-in team..
He jumped ship to be batman and prove his true worth but he found out just how good the situation with the GSW was and I would bet money that he regrets it
You havent seen it often from all time players switching because the league at the time all those greats played was different. Barkely even switched a few teams, russ, harden, kyrie, all of these players besides chuck is of this era. The league is vastly different then what it used to be. The players who stay on 1 team now is because they was already in great situations
Seemingly these guys jump around due to legacy, since it isn't about money, and I think it will have the opposite effect. They will be mostly forgotten due to not having some franchise they are primarily associated with.
Ironically okc would be the perfect place for him to get traded to at this point, probably the only team that can offer enough firsts without completely wrecking their core
No chance. Why would OKC spend a lot of assets and mess up their chemistry for a toxic 35 year old who already bailed on them once and left them high and dry.
@@thinkinginsideout4053as a Thunder fan it’d be both equally nice but also a bad idea to get KD. 1. KD would make OKC a contender this year and possibly get a ring I the process. All would be forgiven in OKC and he’d be able to have his jersey retired in the rafters and have a great legacy in OKC. But.. 2. It would likely involve giving up Dort, Giddey, more than a few FRP’s, and possibly another young promising player. It sounds nice if OKC is trying to win now, but it puts their future plans at risk and current chemistry at risk. Not to mention KD will probably just leave anyways at some point. And OKC rightfully won’t trust he sticks around long before he just leaves or asks to be traded.
Beal didn't needed to be traded for. They traded away ayton Which was smart cause they got out of his contract. They needed to build around dbook and kd properly and not add a 3rd star.
As a Thunder fan …. He crushed us when he left !! We got NOTHING for him & he left at the midnight hour & nobody left to sign moving forward !! Presti IS the best GM in the NBA …. We are 7 years beyond KD leaving & our future is extremely bright z…very good now … getting better & tons of future pics for at least next 5 years to continue building !! GS is done …Brooklyn done …PHX …done ….. these teams have NO future because KD has left their shelves bare !!! He did it to himself completely!!!!
as a thunder fan since i’ve been 8 years old. i’m gonna say he did crush us in 2016. but if he wants to come back to okc through a trade, presti needs to do it. he can trade 7 picks for him and we’ll STILL have draft capital. Trade Giddey, and a ton of picks and put SGA, Dort, KD, JDub, and Chet on the same team? dude we’ll win the next 4 championships.
the best GM cant even win a ring?? yup the future of the OKC is bright but they arent a proven playoff team yet.. do you really think this young dudes can win in the playoffs?? maybe in the next 3years or so but currently they wont be winning against the best teams
Let's say they didn't go for Bradley Beal but 2 players Thybulle and Grant that's 38 mil 2 players that would of been serious team Booker Thybulle Grant Durant Nurkic
Super Teams are over it’s back to the best chemistry type teams with a great alpha, solid beta and supporting cast who know their respective roles. People always get overly excited when big name individual players get together rarely have those type teams win it all. Golden State is always called a super team to me they were a draft born team who got better together who has a system in which if you can knock down open shots, play solid defense, can pass and is around 6’6 or taller you will excel at the small forward position hence Harrison Barnes, Andre Igudola, Kevin Durant and Andrew Wiggins
Yeah, I agree, in the first place, KD should suck it up and stay with the Suns! DB, BB & KD need to work it out! Leaving mid-season wouldn't go down well.
I think the Suns will be fine. It’s different than the Brooklyn situation in that they have a young star entering his prime (Booker) rather than three 30+ players. Even if this doesn’t work out, they’ll still have Booker and players love him and want to play with him. The team has been really injured to start the year and it’s been hard to develop chemistry, but now that they’re healthy, players will settle into their roles and I think they’ll be much better.
people panic alot for teams they dont even root for.. when the real fans isnt even bothered.. they are above .500 currently.. maybe fans should worry more about the lakers cause they are currently falling below .500.. we may see another fake injury for lebron.. or the GSW who cant even handle draymond who is becoming more crazy every game.. and klay and wiggins who plays like hot garbage..
Is Kevin Durant best paired with a dominant, physical Center? Maybe Durant should have been the one to get traded to Philly. How would he have done paired next to Embid? He is a stretch-4, and a dominant scorer. As a Magic fan, they needed a physical presence next to Franz Wagner and Paul Banchero, which is why Goga Bitadze has worked out so well as a defensive compliment.
Harden wasn’t a problem in Brooklyn. Harden only forced his way out of Brooklyn because he went there to play with KD & Kyrie, but Kyrie didn’t do what was necessary(at the time) to be available for games. Kyrie was the biggest problem Brooklyn had during the KD tenure
As an OKC fan, I’d forget all he did to us that summer in 2016 if he did it and all would be forgiven. Win a title and hang his jersey in the rafters, however I kinda doubt it. I feel like KD is just gonna finish out the season in PHX or just try to get traded to Philly or back to golden state lol. However OKC would probably give the most back for a KD trade
Kevin Durant has a similar issue that LeBron had. His talent level and age automatically puts your team in win it all at all costs mode. The benefit that LeBron had that Kevin Durant does not is by and large LeBron’s super teams were formed by free agencies rather than trades. Like in Miami the big three signed there which the team had almost no other talent to make the financial room for that, but thankfully the big 3 took some paycuts and were so damn good it attracted free agents which led to the back to back titles. In Cleveland when LeBron signed there they had so much young talent that when they brought in LeBron and had enough talent to trade for Kevin Love without gutting the roster. Same thing applies to LA, now LA is still recovering from the Westbrook deal as it really cost them a lot of good complimentary talent. Now KD keeps either gutting these teams himself when he’s traded there or has the talent on the team gutted by trading for a star KD wants.
Nets didn't gut their team. They were just like the Cleveland situation. Matter of fact even stronger. Nets assets were crazy deep which afforded them to deal for prime James freaking Harden. Aaaaaand it would have worked. But......Injuries, pandemic, Steve Nash, Joe Harris forgetting how to shoot in the playoffs and ego ultimately became their downfall. Not because the team's roster was too thin because of a big trade for a 3rd star.
I think lebron just got old, if lebron was in his prime, I think the westrbook team would have worked. The difference is, lebron is a leader (Ala Kyrie) and can get people shit together. Kd is quiet and just expects it to work
I thought KD asked for another trade lol......Wouldnt surprise me. Dudes done everything possible to confirm all those people who were saying his legacy is trashed because of the Warriors move. Hes done nothing but create drama and destroy franchises in his wake and hasnt even managed to make it back to the Finals. Great individual player, but in terms of basketball history and legacy, I dont know how well hell be remembered..... He did it to himself though.
Exactly - like those GSW fans who complained when one of their four All-Stars were injured! Most teams are lucky to have two and some don't have any...
Durant's curse is worrying about the credit he's getting. Compare this "me me me" to a guy like Jokic who's solely focused on the team winning. It's not Durant's fault that his new teams have to trade away their basic team strength for getting him, but if he hadn't obsessed over how people view him. he would have never gotten into this mess.
I honestly think he’ll just take this one on the chin and actually play out his contract there. If you look at the landscape of the league where else could he force himself to anyways? On a side note man how tough is the west this year? Yea it’s always tough but it’s like next level this year because of some of the younger teams like the wolves and thunder taking that next step.
i think he may push to go back to okc at the deadline. we know okc has the draft capital to do it. SGA KD, Chet and Williams sounds like a match made in heaven
I find the issue with KD on any team is when a team acquires KD they always have to give up a lot which leads to a team with outstanding offense but no depth which really stunts a teams potential the best scenario for KD is for him to go to a team in free agency that way whatever team he lands on doesn’t sacrifice so much for him
Kevin Durant has now played with Westbrook, Harden, Curry, Green, Thompson, Irving, Harden again, Booker, and Beal. I'm guessing all of those guys besides Beal make the Hall of Fame. I don't think playing with seven future Hall of Famers and only coming away with two titles, with both being on the most loaded team of all time, is a good legacy. He's going to be seen as a ring chaser. I say all this as someone who loves watching Durant play. I also respect his genuine love for basketball and that he's a true student of the game. Every time I've listened to him on podcasts, I've enjoyed his insights and observations. I'm not a KD hater. I'm just laying out the reality of how the public will likely perceive him if this latest move doesn't work out. One Jokic ring will carry 10 times the weight of KD's rings because of the context. Is that fair? Maybe not. But that's how people think about these things.
The roster construction in PHX is just horrible. They have nobody who can facilitate, all three of them are mainly iso players that need the ball in their hands. Neither KD nor Booker should bring up the ball, yet the suns kind of have to try to make them occasional PGs, which they both are simply not good at. The biggest Problem is that nobody defends on this team, and i include KD in that even though he has his defensive moments, but overall his defense is extremely lazy. The craziest thing was recently in the mavs game, where Booker turns the ball over, does not challenge the shot at all during the fast break and then has the balls to scream at his teammates.
The harden thing is so insanely underrated, they made maybe the best team ever and played 12 games together, harden and KD were great together in the games they had without kyrie, but kyrie made them actually unbeatable as the 3rd guy since they are all great shooters and harden was the only fascilitsting poing guard. Its a heavenly match but harden wanted out too early i feel, he could have given it at least 1 more year i feel Ben rly destroyed the team honestly that trade is so bad looking back, juck. KD vision of that team manifasted is super valid
Rare Sunday post for me, was supposed to go live yesterday but then the OG trade happened. Enjoy and have a safe and happy New Year!
So Steph had nothing to do with those rings?
kd going to request trade back to okc now they have ton of draft assets, young tradeable players, and 2 stars in Sga and chet. Mark my words, he going try and be like lebron going back to cavs
So KD should’ve stayed with OKC allowing Russ to derail his career? KD Steph and Lebron played in 2 finals, where KD got BOTH finals MVP’s but he’s considered the worst. Stop lying. This is why the NBA is 💀
Skrew your title man!
This is the dumbest take. How does this guy have as many subscribers as he has? 2x FMVP, future HOF is the problem on all his teams. GTFOH.
”Had he stayed with the warriors they would have won at least another title”
Well tbh they did win another title, even without him. 🤷♂️
Didnt play lebron, year later did...and lost. So to sum up warriors are 1-2 vs lebron without kd, only win because of injuries and 2-0 with him. Thats y got him
@@xavierb9061 what’s KD finals record without GS? He didn’t win one before going, and still hasn’t after. GS did both.
no kd = no dynasty 😂
@@leothelion2593 scored 35ppg on lebron..4 series..steph never close to that..why got him
@@xavierb9061 go back and watch that film 😂 guess who was freeing KD up with his gravity. Steph lol Steph got double the chips and more MVP’s. Don’t act like Steph was a slouch in them series. You say Steph could beat bron? Cool. KD couldn’t beat Steph, gave up a 3-1 lead to em and then joined. But hey “if you can’t beat em, join em” lol
He's getting what he asked for, its so poetic
Yep so F him. I'm so glad he didn't end up on the Celtics.
yeah when he was little he wanted to be a NBA player and rich..so yeah everything is poetic.
@@eritreayamini6801absolutely...look how happy he looks
what did he asked?? durant just wants to be a contender and he was even with the nets drama they were a contender and almost won against the bucks.. even last year with the suns they were the only team who had a chance to beat the nuggets every other teams are either a 1 win or sweep
My concern is hé could not get to another level and scapegoated Russel for that...
As a Nets fan Its very interesting to wonder what the team would have done had they not traded half of the team for Harden.
Kyrie would not play anyway so it would not result in anything.
It's also interesting to wonder what would have happened if they hadn't traded away the picks that were used to draft Draymond Green, Kyle Kuzma, Jaylen Brown and some scrub named Damian Lillard. 🤔 🙄.
None of the picks they got in return panned out
I think about this a lot.
The Nets with Harden Durant and Irving are the biggest what if in Nba history.
The only problem was at that time Kyrie who didn’t want it to play. But Harden was in a role like today with the Clips. The best for him.
@@Wilcoranking You assume that the Nets would have selected the correct players in the draft in those positions.
the beal trade was so so so unneccesary
i think its got some parallels with the Lakers Westbrook trade (third star, huge contract making free agent signings difficult, etc)
the beal fit does feel better than the westbrook fit tho, and i wanna be optimistic and hope that they'll just figure it out...
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I think whoever signed off on that trade has to cop blame for where the Suns are right now and if KD was one of those people, he deserves a lot of the smoke he's getting right now. Imagine what the Suns could have done to actually improve their squad with the resources they spent on that Beal trade.
The same thing happened in Brooklyn. The Nets did not need Harden and they actually weakened their team by adding him. KD should not be allowing these crappy trades to go through. He should have the influence to talk the front office out of these terrible moves, I don't know why he isn't using that influence.
The KD trade gutted all their assets. The Beal trade was a nail in the coffin for their assets. The new CBA will kill their ability to fill out their roster considering they have three players getting paid 50+ million.
You can thank the greatest owner of all time, Mat Ishba and James Jones. 60+ win season the year prior with growing players and chemistry... I'm sick of this team basketball. Let's go for some superstars. How can we lose? we have Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, and Kevin Durant. (No Future first round picks until 2029🤨)
Seriously, I didn't think getting a new owner would make this much of an impact on a team, but Mats roster construction is alarming.
Another new owner making mistakes trying to make a splash lol nothing new
The new mould in the NBA is 2 All-Stars (with at least 1 being an All-NBA player, ideally a top 10 player in the league) and surrounding the two with quality role players. The Big 3 plan severely limits how many good role players you can get. Especially when youre aquiring your stars through trade which means youre giving up assets youll need to bring in role players for those stars. Every team thats won a NBA Championship since the KD warriors has been a 2 star team with really good role players. Toronto had Leonard, Siakam. The Lakers had Davis and Lebron, Bucks Giannis and Middleton, ect.... Pheonix is doomed to fail lol. They have no assets, no flexibility, and 2 out of their 3 stars are injury prone while one could ask for a trade the moment he realizes things are getting tough.
How can you seriously compare Barkley’s 3 teams over his entire career to Durant’s 3 teams in half a decade?
Yeah, Barkley was not on “a ton of different teams.”
Shaq was the one on like 6 teams
@@ryanciaburri4829true but he was out of his prime for most
@@sneakrzzz8669most😂
Why does it matter. Only unintelligent people stay where they don't want to be.
What a legacy KD has made for himself
Feels like his best career move was to go to Golden State and honestly might have been better off just staying there.
He really couldn’t help himself. The feeling of people invalidating your legacy to then decide to leave and show you can do it without curry will forever be his downfall besides leaving okc. Could have 4 or 5 if he stuck with Golden State honestly
@@1onlypatch those rings still wouldn’t hold as much weight as other rings and I’m honestly glad he didn’t the league needed more parity
Curry saved his legacy
Not to mention Draymond making it a poor environment for him
@@1onlypatch If Harden and KD didn't have such ridiculous egos they could have won in OKC together.
It's me. Hi. I'm the problem, it's me.
We all know you're the problem Taylor
IT'S UUUU, DARLING 😢
Kd is the anti hero
I literally was listening to this song when I clicked on this video 😂
Wrong sport
I honestly think the team would be better if they hadn’t made the Beal trade. They’d have those assets and could’ve used them to trade for better role players instead. Chris Paul definitely isn’t what he used to be but he could also still help a lot in playmaking. Instead of an injured Beal, they could have any of Jerami Grant, Matisse Thybulle, Royce O’Neal, Robert Williams III, etc and any of them would’ve been hugely beneficial for this team
While i agree, RW3 is missing the whole year due to surgery/injury. That said, I think RW3 i is the most fun player to watch do his thing with the dunks, oops, and his incredible touch passing.
yup.. why would they want to have the same team as the nets where most superstars they had had the same roles.. its really dumb now they have problems with who really is the true PG.. but i believe the cp3 and ayton trade was correct the problem was what they got for both.. cp3 really wont contribute in the playoffs its already a proven thing same as ayton who becomes much worse come playoffs time.. beal is the only stinky player right now in phoenix that they shouldnt have gotten
Yea it was the most unnecessary trade ever. Beal is redundant when you already have kd and booker as scorers. Cp3 could bring his playmaking and leadership while playing as many games or more than what Beal would play.
You think they would actually try to target getting CP3 again?
Every time KD goes somewhere that team ends up making an unnecessary trade and then clowns like this CZcamsr come out and say KD done it😂. Thats not a coincidence. 🤦🏾♂️
The reputation LeBron has is the person KD is. The team hopping, the GM'ing, the sensitivity, the complaining, when Skip Bayless describes LeBron he is actually describing KD. KD is like Brons shadow.
Nah it's still LeBron too
Eh LeBron has done it too. Especially the GMing. He ruined Cleveland making them pay big contracts out to his dudes in Thompson, Shumpert, and Smith.
@@XLgameBROAt least LeBron has shown he can carry a team to the finals. KD’s had more help than any other player in NBA history and would be ringless if he didn’t take the easy way out and join the Warriors who would’ve won those championships without him.
@@oIRONITEoat least Lebron actually wins. He actually makes the teams better. All of KDs teams are toxic and often underperform
@@oIRONITEohe won them a championship and was in the finals every year. Prior to him being there, they were picking 1st in the draft EVERY SEASON.
It's not a curse. Dude demands a lot of resources to get traded. He depletes teams of picks and young talent.
Indeed he bitchs that his team can’t win yet all he wants is big stars around him and no chemistry or bench
he demands alot of resources?? the fuck did you check suns roster when he was traded there?? they were still big4 composed of KD, cp3, ayton and booker thats a championship team.. problem with that is both cp3 and ayton plays poorly in the playoffs..
Frankly that sounds like curse to me, or at least a parasite
KD demanding a trade to the Nuggets next
@@xavierb9061 Could you translate this into English, please?
@@jeffreym.8957He is saying that in the hypothetical that KD somehow did end up on the Nuggets, and they were to win a title, and KD were to play better than Jokic and get a FMVP, Jokic would get more credit for taking a back seat to let KD play his game. Just like Steph did when they won in GSW, instead of KD just getting credit for being the hooper we all know he can be.
yup just be brainwashed by the media.. KD farts and the media and people like you goes berserk
Charles Barkley was on 3 teams total and only 2 in his prime. He also played at least 4 years with each team.
He could have mentioned shaq as well. Orlando, LA, and Miami (just counting prime years)
I think if he had won a championship in Brooklyn, that would've been the best legacy stop. Bringing some rings to NYC would make you a legend there. Great video!
Though as a Celtics fan, I can tell you now that trusting Kyrie to help bring you those rings was a very bad idea.
Yes in Brooklyn KD would've had a better legacy if he stayed.
@@NightlingboltTbf luck also has to do why they didnt win it all in BK. Just Kyrie being healthy for the rest of that bucks series would’ve guaranteed a trip to the finals at the very least, and tbh, Brooklyn definitely would’ve won against the Suns that year. Its just unfortunate.
@@justintejada3243no guarantee they best bucks with kyrie , can’t make assumptions
@@PVMMAC huh?? KD almost singlehandedly destroyed bucks, if kyrie wasnt injured its high chance for them to win.. ofcourse its not guaranteed but 99% is high enough
The funny thing is they replicated what the Nets did with Harden.
They had some good pieces around Durant and Booker and maybe just needed a tweak rather than gut out the depth.
what depth?? they only trade cp3 and shamet and future picks.. those players wont help them win anything and thats a proven fact.. would you rather have those 2 than beal?? their current team isnt awful they still above .500 they only need to be healthy and thats much better than playing with CP3 and ayton
@@TambayLogicthey're only 1 or 2 games above sitting currently at the 9seed in the west. The way they've been playing that's roughly where they're gonna stay too, the west is too talented the way the suns are built. There's still time sure but if you gutted your whole roster to bring in 2 aging stars in KD and Beal just to barely make the play-in you'd be worried
Kevin Durant - NBA journeyman
Carmelo with a ring.
If he had stayed with GSW and had 6+ rings, hard to argue against his legacy
KD wants to go to either NY, MIA, MIL, OKC, or DEN now! What a chump! 😅
The thing I love about these Durant teams is they act like they need three superstars as if Kevin Durant being the number one and whoever your one B guy is isn’t gonna be able to do enough with 3 and D guys around him.
The the funniest part is the fact he left golden state to get it on his own and he can’t do it without recruiting 2 other superstars 😂😭😭
the funny part is GSW being a superteam still need to recruit KD to beat lebron and heck they even added cousins just to make their team a 5 man superteam.. GSW recruited KD and not the other way around.. its not like KD is the only one creating superteams
@@TambayLogic GSW won before KD and won after him. On the other hand, he has not won anything outside of the Bay Area
KD has spent his career running from the grind and accountability and he’s the most coddled star of all time. No player has played with as many stars and all time greats, and he’s got 2 rings to show for it.
Ppl are so mesmerized by his talent. And by god is he talented, he’s always lacked as a leader, I’ve never seen someone get as many excuses made for them as KD.
he spent 9 years in OKC as the best player thats enough time spent on a team to think about your own legacy.. by that time money isnt the main thing its all about winning.. its just people like you are salty because KD silenced every single team in the league and made them look like college teams even with lebron in it.. KD had a once in a lifetime chance of playing with high chance of winning do you really think he would pass that up?? cause if you ask me if GSW gave that offer to lebron he would go immediately..
@@TambayLogic he could’ve gone to other teams that would’ve given him a chance to win a title. He chose the team that went 73-9 and beat him after he was up on them 3-1. He could’ve gon to Miami, Boston. Could’ve played with Pop and Kawhi with the Spurs. I hate that ppl act like the only contending team that he could’ve gone to was GS, he took meetings with all those teams I just mentioned. All good situations to build his OWN team and legacy. Instead he joined on budding dynasty, a back to back to MVP. The team that actually became the western conference team of the decade when before they emerged everyone assumed that that would be the thunder. So please save it lol
@@leothelion2593 was he wrong then?? winning is winning.. do you think if lebron has the cap space for KD he wont recruit the dude?? even today?? if given the chance lebron would want to recruit as much star power just to win rings.. if he could clamp giannis jokic and embiid with lebron together he would do it.. just accept the fact that every player and or a team wants to recruit the most they can.. if he joined miami would they win?? nope.. GSW has the highest probability its all about logic and most low intellect people who goes with feelings rather than brain fail to get..
All rings aren't created equal. Alot of assumptions going on in your weak rebuttal
@@TambayLogic yeah he went to the place that gave him the highest probability, and he did that bc that’s all that matters right? Then why’d he leave? He left bc he wasn’t being respected for those high probability rings. Bc he knew GS would always be Steph’s franchise bc he’d won it before KD got there. Steph got a ring after he left, the smart thing to do would’ve been to stay with what was working, where was his “logic” then. You’ve been on this post glazing him, but even KD don’t believe the stuff you saying. He chose the path of least resistance bc deep down he didn’t feel like he could get it done as the primary leader of a team. Since he’s left he spent his time complaining, and begging for more star power.
Meanwhile Steph has won again. Steph is LeBron’s rival for this era. Not KD. Steph is the 2nd best player of their era. Not KD. And KD hates that fact. Bc KD was the unicorn blue chip prospect, who everyone said was going to be the greatest offensive player of all time. The Thunder made the finals and everyone thought they were the dynasty in waiting, KD won MVP and said he was tired of being number 2 to LeBron, they were gonna define the decade. Then a small light skinned barely recruited, point guard that went to Davidson and was drafted late in lottery came and did everything KD thought he himself was going to do.
Steph smacked him in the WCF. And just as fast as yall say Draymond called KD after the finals, KD couldn’t answer that phone fast enough. He joined em, and thought that his star power and natural talent was going to dim Steph’s light, but it didn’t, and he couldn’t stand it. He left thinking that without him GS was done, tried to recreate it with Kyrie, failed miserably and then he got to see Steph hoist yet another trophy without him. KD is very talented but he wasted it and he’s gonna have to settle for the bronze medal of that era.
When he first went to GS I said he should have went to the Spurs or Celtics. He would have won 2/3 rings and gotten most of the credit
why in the world would a superstar like KD want to be traded to the spurs?? thats a small market team and it would hurt his marketability.. in the history of spurs who the fuck did go there as a superstar?? its either they were drafted there like duncan or traded while developing like kawhii.. as for boston i dont think they are a winning team..
@@TambayLogic because before Steph ppl were just clamoring to get to golden state? The spurs were a dynasty, and you skipped over when he mentioned Boston. Lol
@@leothelion2593 we are talking about 2016 onwards just move on dude you still living way beyond the past.. the spurs were a dynasty but that doesnt change the fact that they were a small market team and that would hurt him financially.. and for boston they werent that much of a contender back then.. he wouldve carried that team the same way he carries most of his team today
@@TambayLogic this must be a KD burner account. Well let’s look forward then, KD is never winning a ring again. Those are the facts. He bummed some rings off GSW that’s great for him, but he’s not getting credit for winning rings with a team who won just as many without him and broke the single season win record. The end lol
Had been following this channel for a long time but recently have not seen recent video, glad im back here! But i notice something, did you gain alittle? 😂 Apologise but yea
I've never seen a dude so upset that he's better than all of his teammates.
did you not see lebron?
OKC built beautifully around him when he got drafted. they made one wrong move with not paying harden but besides that they always set themselves up well to constantly improve their roster. he shouldve stayed. golden state was a done deal beforee he got there so him going there just made them unbeatable and he decided to leave and ever since then hes been fucking his own career up. it hasnt worked anywhere else
Agreed, he should have stayed in an organization like OKC bc of how well run we are. However, I am of the belief that if KD never left, Sam Presti wouldn't have made his final evolution as a general manager. I think right now Sam Presti has learned about everything you need to know to build a championship team. KD leaving taught him the downfalls of not managing money correctley, how to manage superstars with weird personalities, and how to rebuild a team from former glory. KD leavibg forced Presti to really get creative in ways I think Presti never expected to have to be, that's why I believe in him to create a championship winning roster with this group of guys. If KD never left maybe Presti wouldn't have ever learned those necessary lessons.
true presti and OKC benefitted logistically from durants departure, but i remember in 2016 during FA, the ibaka trade got the thudner oladipo who was still on a rookie deal, adams was still on his rookie deal, they had tons of cap space and if westbrook and durant committed then al horford wouldve signed. westbrook oladipo, durant horford and adams?? @@athunderfan
The problem was Westbrook too. Too inefficient.
@@FledgedPhoenix durant wasn’t efficient in the playoffs with westbrook either. it was more roberson than westbrook. they should’ve beat the warriors in game 6 if durant showed up. they were actually perfect complements to one another. westbrook kept the pace up leading to easier fast break points while durant handled the half court offense
Imagine if he had just signed with Boston instead of Golden state how much better he'd be perceived.
Chris Paul was the most important player on Suns team. He dropped of last season, but still trading him for Beal was very significant.
They may have gotten him for a steal, but the Suns never should have done the Beal trade. They now have no draft assets and their salary cap is clogged with just three players. Adding depth will be very difficult for them too. I really wouldn't be shocked if Durant eventually demanded a trade out of Phoenix.
how about beal?? isnt he an asset??
I think he absolutely is the proble. He's shown that when you give him input on creating the roster of a team, he doesn't know what works well around him. He consistently wants to play with smaller high-skill guys who aren't good defenders. GSW worked for him, because they had guys like Draymond and Iggy on defense. He hasn't tried teaming with stars who are actually amazing defensive players, and furthermore, he burns so many resources getting redundant skill players - like Beal/Harden- that they can't bring in really good defensive guys around him. A good comp is LeBron; he's certainly made some bad decisions in team-building, pushing for the Russ trade and giving up KCP/Kuzma, etc to do so, when KCP & Kuzma are both probably better players RN than Russ and would've helped the Lakers win more in following years. But on the other side of that, he understands he needs shooting around him, and a top tier rim protector so he can play his help defense roll and kick to open guys, which worked really well on the Cavs teams he helped build, and some of these Lakers teams. KD is clearly significantly less self-aware.
He's hurt his legacy a lot at this point. Even the only 2 times he won he teamed up with Steph to take down LeBron. #2 and #3 best players in the world at the time, literally on the same team. They were such heavy favorites that placing money on them to win the championship actually lost you money... Since then it's repeated failures and trade demands. The 2022 title puts him under Steph all time, and his frustration in moments like this just make him so unlikeable because we all know he signed off on the Beal trade, and we all know that this Suns roster is as thin and defensively flawed as it is because of the move for KD and the moves that KD actively supported. First round exit at best.
how sure are you that KD was the one who pushed for beal?? in the end of the day its still the managements prerogative on who they put on the team.. and harden to the nets wasnt a bad deal.. its just that they have injuries back then.. if they were fully healthy even if they play the same roles i would still believe they would destroy most of the teams in the NBA
If Durant had thought of players who could play defense and of a team that fit his abilities, could he have seen more success or even a title post-Golden State?
Great vid
What team would even trade for KD now? Like yeah he's good but he leaves every team after a couple of years
You misspelled James Harden 😉
Literally any team would trade for the guy if they have the assets. His career has been really weird, but hes still one the best 20 basketball players of all time.
Warriors need to trade Klay,Wiggins, and either Moody or Kuminga. That should be enough for KD
Why would the Suns accept that deal? Its a big downgrade@@tommyharper126
Suns did that and they almost out the playoff this year. I don't know which team will make the same bet, its excessive risk@@skooch5769
If he asks out again his legacy will be tarnished beyond measure. Great player, great guy, decent teammate but fragile mentality that is extremely distracting for a franchise. He needs to finish his career in Phoenix. His stats will never look as good as they will be when it’s all said and done if he spends half of his career looking for the best place.
I think the problem is that he wants the perfect situation. But it’s based on how he wants it to feel. 1. He wants to be “the man” ( agreed that OKC was his best “man” moment). 2. He wants to play the way he wants to play and be surrounded by perfect teammates who allow that to happen. 3. He wants recognition, credit and success for his play, his leadership, and his team. Then he’s disappointed when it doesn’t feel right or work the way he envisioned. At this rate, he’ll be searching till he retires. It’s all too amorphous and vague.
How u came up wit this
he was "the man" in every team he played.. he was in OKC, in GSW as per FMVP's, and heck even in NETs.. and now he is also proving himself as "the man" in suns.. and who the heck wouldnt want to be surrounded by perfect teammates?? lebron does that every single season since he first left cavs.. even giannis always wants to trade teammates just to contend every season.. everything you are saying is based on what you feel..
@@TambayLogic Feel cant carry consistency. That is the flaw of his ego.
Lebron might be flopping around but he understand how to be consistent. KD cant, because he feeling too much.
Those teams were bad not because he's there but because he was running the teams. It is exceptionally rare for an active player to be even remotely competent when it comes to coaching or roster construction. KD is not an exception. In OKC everyone had him top 2 or top 3 player in the league and now hardly anyone even thinks of him because of how irrelevant his teams have been last 4 seasons. He deserves no empathy. His legacy will be far behind LeBron or Steph and probably behind Giannis and Jokic as well at this point as there won't be a city who will cherish his name once he retires.
you being here commenting on KD just shows how irrelevant the dude is.. KD farts and the media goes berserk..
He’ll be remembered like Carmelo Anthony. The Warriors titles are cheap! 💯
Is he wrong? When he retires, which team is retiring his jersey?
@@williamcoppage7847 KD is already top 13 all time in the top75.. melo not even close.. melo is always remembered as a loser
Root of all KD's bad decisions and ultimately why he is here now is pride and envy. He was looking at Lebron's legacy, and at the same time was not content with the accolades the media was not giving him with the wins in GSW, which now led to domino effect of bad decisions after bad decisions. His frame of thought was just not putting him in the right path.
Root is bad luck..westbrook took morw ahots when kd was mvp..heat big 3 steph caught hurt lebron team...vaccine kyriw no wiggins yes...injuries klay kyrie harden
Also doesn't help that Kyrie and Harden are cancers each in their own sense.
He don’t give a fuck about Lebron he is better than him.
@@DAV3RAG3 Who’s better is irrelevant. Lebron was undisputedly the reason his teams won (not one, dumbass!), and KD didn’t feel that way about himself and the Warriors, which is why he went to Brooklyn with Kyrie.
He should've just stayed in GSW. He was clapping Bron's cheeks every season.
As a mostly retired Thunder fan who went to playoff games in OKC, F him.
How long till Durant wants out of Phoenix.
where did you get that shirt? awesome
*wants the credit for a winning situation*
- every team he’s been on, he’s been a part of a BIG 3 😂
People still blaming KD for the nets situation is crazy. Kyrie ain't wanna play, harden leaves, then they get a guy in ben simmons who can't even suit up.
Well... he asked for Kyrie...
@@jeffreym.8957 how could KD have possibly known that a global pandemic was coming and Kyrie would refuse to get vaccinated. Dude’s not a psychic
The thing that, in my opinion, tarnishes the KD Legacy the most is this:
The GSW won it all before KD. They won it all after KD (with the same core as they had before him). Meanwhile, KD has done nothing but disappoint since he left the GSW. I'm not saying that he's a bad player or anything like that. What I am saying is that KD can't be the leader on a championship team. He's said himself that he just wants to play basketball and he does that incredibly well. But just being a good player isn't enough to be a champion. The team needs a leader, someone who brings guys together and gives them that spark, fire and coordination. That to me is why KD, despite being a more skilled player, will never be a better player than Steph or Lebron. Those guys could lead teams and take them all the way multiple times. KD can't do it once.
KD"s problem is what I always cautioned my troopers about when I was an NCO. The grass always looks greener, another unit/MOS always looks better. But the fact is that most of the time, at least 50% of your problems in your current situation are generated or worsened by YOU. Fix yourself first, then look to fix what you can around you. If you want to keep running to something else because it looks better, that's just another form of quitting and you'll build a quitter's mentality that will forever make it difficult to succeed. KD is the guy that always feels like the grass is greener somewhere else and runs from a tough situation to what he perceives to be easier, not realizing that 50% or more of his problems are related to himself and therefore will follow him wherever he goes.
Superteams don't work. Team hopping doesn't work. It almost never does. The only reason it's a criticism for elite players in the modern NBA is because Lebron won by doing it. But based on other's results we can kind of all agree that Lebron won because he was Lebron...
superteams only work when you have great team system where superstars compliment each other like steph, not like Westbrook who needs the ball a lot to do well. The suns got 3 players who need the ball in their hand a lot, same skillsets..
If it was the case, LeBron would not have jump ship twice to go to better teams to win. He would have won without doing it.
@@awesomereviews1561nah he had to leave. They weren’t giving him players to compete and he would have been a traditional player retiring by now.
I'm a critic of Lebron. But the won a championship for every team he has played for. Why can't KD do it?
@@awesomereviews1561 Better teams? he left 4x finals teams twice for lottery teams. How is that better? 🤣
If he was smart, he would have asked to be traded to Miami. Granted they would have to give up the kitchen sink, but at least they would have some identity. KD at best is a marksman, not a centerpiece. Doesn’t negate is stature, just shows how hard it is to assemble a winning team
Miami would've been WAY BETTER. Cause they have an amazing culture.
KD listed Phoenix as his top destination. Well here you go KD, figure it out.
Let’s face it, all things being equal, Kevin Durant massively improves any team he joins. You can’t place the blame on him for the Suns making a bad trade. There is no legacy question among non-casuals: Kevin Durant is one of the best basketball players who ever lived, and he is almost certainly among the top five greatest scoring threats ever.
Dude is ring chasing hard and I think he jumps ship this trade deadline or next one and reconsiders his building approach. Grab a dude in FA, not by sending out all the stuff you went to the team for in the first place. Indy might be a good spot just because they have the depth to trade Hield, Brown, Smith, and Mathurin and still have really good players out of the rotation.
why would he leave the suns and go to indiana when they are currently almost the same win lose record?? people like you and the media panic alot more than the real SUNS or KD fans who isnt even bothered.. try telling that to lebron cause he ring chase alot more and his team is more likely a play-in team..
I honestly wonder if he regrets leaving the warriors and that lives rent free in my head
He jumped ship to be batman and prove his true worth but he found out just how good the situation with the GSW was and I would bet money that he regrets it
All this wouldn't have happened if OKC just kept Harden. That's what started this mess
You havent seen it often from all time players switching because the league at the time all those greats played was different. Barkely even switched a few teams, russ, harden, kyrie, all of these players besides chuck is of this era. The league is vastly different then what it used to be. The players who stay on 1 team now is because they was already in great situations
Seemingly these guys jump around due to legacy, since it isn't about money, and I think it will have the opposite effect. They will be mostly forgotten due to not having some franchise they are primarily associated with.
if any superstar give a team their first ring then they wont ever forget that player..
@@TambayLogic you sound slow as hell a ring is a ring yall weird as hell
Ironically okc would be the perfect place for him to get traded to at this point, probably the only team that can offer enough firsts without completely wrecking their core
It will wreck their core probably. Because KD is unlucky, teammates were injured everytime he's on a team.
No chance. Why would OKC spend a lot of assets and mess up their chemistry for a toxic 35 year old who already bailed on them once and left them high and dry.
@@thinkinginsideout4053as a Thunder fan it’d be both equally nice but also a bad idea to get KD.
1. KD would make OKC a contender this year and possibly get a ring I the process. All would be forgiven in OKC and he’d be able to have his jersey retired in the rafters and have a great legacy in OKC.
But..
2. It would likely involve giving up Dort, Giddey, more than a few FRP’s, and possibly another young promising player. It sounds nice if OKC is trying to win now, but it puts their future plans at risk and current chemistry at risk. Not to mention KD will probably just leave anyways at some point. And OKC rightfully won’t trust he sticks around long before he just leaves or asks to be traded.
@@soonerguy8011 nah. His team mates will get injured. He is just that unlucky.
Beal didn't needed to be traded for. They traded away ayton Which was smart cause they got out of his contract. They needed to build around dbook and kd properly and not add a 3rd star.
As a Thunder fan …. He crushed us when he left !! We got NOTHING for him & he left at the midnight hour & nobody left to sign moving forward !!
Presti IS the best GM in the NBA …. We are 7 years beyond KD leaving & our future is extremely bright z…very good now … getting better & tons of future pics for at least next 5 years to continue building !! GS is done …Brooklyn done …PHX …done ….. these teams have NO future because KD has left their shelves bare !!! He did it to himself completely!!!!
as a thunder fan since i’ve been 8 years old. i’m gonna say he did crush us in 2016. but if he wants to come back to okc through a trade, presti needs to do it. he can trade 7 picks for him and we’ll STILL have draft capital. Trade Giddey, and a ton of picks and put SGA, Dort, KD, JDub, and Chet on the same team? dude we’ll win the next 4 championships.
the best GM cant even win a ring?? yup the future of the OKC is bright but they arent a proven playoff team yet.. do you really think this young dudes can win in the playoffs?? maybe in the next 3years or so but currently they wont be winning against the best teams
This guy lost it sayin he’s not a top 10-15 player of all time
Yessir👏🏽
Let's say they didn't go for Bradley Beal but 2 players Thybulle and Grant that's 38 mil 2 players that would of been serious team
Booker Thybulle Grant Durant Nurkic
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Super Teams are over it’s back to the best chemistry type teams with a great alpha, solid beta and supporting cast who know their respective roles. People always get overly excited when big name individual players get together rarely have those type teams win it all. Golden State is always called a super team to me they were a draft born team who got better together who has a system in which if you can knock down open shots, play solid defense, can pass and is around 6’6 or taller you will excel at the small forward position hence Harrison Barnes, Andre Igudola, Kevin Durant and Andrew Wiggins
"Yo Kyrie"
"What"
"Let's go to the Lakers"
"Bet"
Yeah, I agree, in the first place, KD should suck it up and stay with the Suns! DB, BB & KD need to work it out! Leaving mid-season wouldn't go down well.
Oh wow, weird how a team that went all in on a big 3 and didn’t have enough cap space for good role players isn’t panning out anymore
I think the Suns will be fine. It’s different than the Brooklyn situation in that they have a young star entering his prime (Booker) rather than three 30+ players. Even if this doesn’t work out, they’ll still have Booker and players love him and want to play with him. The team has been really injured to start the year and it’s been hard to develop chemistry, but now that they’re healthy, players will settle into their roles and I think they’ll be much better.
What’s 2024 free agency looking like? It’ll be interesting to see who comes to team up with Booker.
people panic alot for teams they dont even root for.. when the real fans isnt even bothered.. they are above .500 currently.. maybe fans should worry more about the lakers cause they are currently falling below .500.. we may see another fake injury for lebron.. or the GSW who cant even handle draymond who is becoming more crazy every game.. and klay and wiggins who plays like hot garbage..
The big three take turns getting injures. Yeah, everything will be fine.
KD's career in three words: My Next Chapter.
Is Kevin Durant best paired with a dominant, physical Center? Maybe Durant should have been the one to get traded to Philly. How would he have done paired next to Embid? He is a stretch-4, and a dominant scorer. As a Magic fan, they needed a physical presence next to Franz Wagner and Paul Banchero, which is why Goga Bitadze has worked out so well as a defensive compliment.
He wants to be the man but not get any blame for it. He needs stars around him because he doesn’t make his teammates better.
Harden wasn’t a problem in Brooklyn. Harden only forced his way out of Brooklyn because he went there to play with KD & Kyrie, but Kyrie didn’t do what was necessary(at the time) to be available for games. Kyrie was the biggest problem Brooklyn had during the KD tenure
You brought up a interesting point. I think he should go back and win a ring with OKC that could rebuild his legacy.
As an OKC fan, I’d forget all he did to us that summer in 2016 if he did it and all would be forgiven. Win a title and hang his jersey in the rafters, however I kinda doubt it. I feel like KD is just gonna finish out the season in PHX or just try to get traded to Philly or back to golden state lol. However OKC would probably give the most back for a KD trade
@@soonerguy8011a kd trade back to okc would be a match made in heaven. it’s the perfect scenario and would make us title favorites that day
Been watching Shane gillis clips all day and maybe I’m tripping but I see a resemblance 😂😂
Kevin Durant request a trade again 😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂
They messed it up with Bradley Beal
KD is gona make his way to the Knicks and bring us a chip 😂
Noooooooo please don't say that lol
Kevin Durant has a similar issue that LeBron had. His talent level and age automatically puts your team in win it all at all costs mode. The benefit that LeBron had that Kevin Durant does not is by and large LeBron’s super teams were formed by free agencies rather than trades. Like in Miami the big three signed there which the team had almost no other talent to make the financial room for that, but thankfully the big 3 took some paycuts and were so damn good it attracted free agents which led to the back to back titles. In Cleveland when LeBron signed there they had so much young talent that when they brought in LeBron and had enough talent to trade for Kevin Love without gutting the roster. Same thing applies to LA, now LA is still recovering from the Westbrook deal as it really cost them a lot of good complimentary talent. Now KD keeps either gutting these teams himself when he’s traded there or has the talent on the team gutted by trading for a star KD wants.
So it’s basically “You can lead horses to water, but you can’t make them drink.”
Nets didn't gut their team. They were just like the Cleveland situation. Matter of fact even stronger. Nets assets were crazy deep which afforded them to deal for prime James freaking Harden. Aaaaaand it would have worked.
But......Injuries, pandemic, Steve Nash, Joe Harris forgetting how to shoot in the playoffs and ego ultimately became their downfall. Not because the team's roster was too thin because of a big trade for a 3rd star.
I think lebron just got old, if lebron was in his prime, I think the westrbook team would have worked. The difference is, lebron is a leader (Ala Kyrie) and can get people shit together. Kd is quiet and just expects it to work
This is why you don’t do drugs kids
"Apart from injuries"? Dude, injuries are a major part.
The best ability is availability.
I thought KD asked for another trade lol......Wouldnt surprise me. Dudes done everything possible to confirm all those people who were saying his legacy is trashed because of the Warriors move. Hes done nothing but create drama and destroy franchises in his wake and hasnt even managed to make it back to the Finals. Great individual player, but in terms of basketball history and legacy, I dont know how well hell be remembered..... He did it to himself though.
He's George Iceman Gervin. A certified bucket, and that's all.
The season still has a long way to go still things could change soon
Kd is mad theres only 3 all stars instead of 4-5
Exactly - like those GSW fans who complained when one of their four All-Stars were injured! Most teams are lucky to have two and some don't have any...
Wanted to be "the guy"...finds out he's not "THE GUY"
Is that tee shirt Vince!?
Ryan Davis called it!👀🎭
KD, Harden, Kyrie, etc. they all need really good ego checks.
Durant's curse is worrying about the credit he's getting. Compare this "me me me" to a guy like Jokic who's solely focused on the team winning. It's not Durant's fault that his new teams have to trade away their basic team strength for getting him, but if he hadn't obsessed over how people view him. he would have never gotten into this mess.
KD should have gone to Boston in 2016, they had a ton of assets at the time and could have easily formed a great team around him.
I wonder what they could do to get Tyus Jones before the trade deadline
He feel like he should have gone back to OKC after winner ring out here in the bay
His legacy is 2champ, 4 scoring champ and all of the accolades he has acquired and U can't take that away. Stop bashing the man and show some love
talking about kd and his curse and not even mentioning lil b is insane
correction: Kyrie brought KD to the Nets, he was never even eyeing Brooklyn but it was Kyrie that moved him there…
What did he do? There's reports that he's frustrated. People are acting like he demanded a trade
I honestly think he’ll just take this one on the chin and actually play out his contract there. If you look at the landscape of the league where else could he force himself to anyways? On a side note man how tough is the west this year? Yea it’s always tough but it’s like next level this year because of some of the younger teams like the wolves and thunder taking that next step.
He might wanna join Embiid. Lol
i think he may push to go back to okc at the deadline. we know okc has the draft capital to do it. SGA KD, Chet and Williams sounds like a match made in heaven
Honestly okc would’ve been the play for all 3 of those og guys
I can't be the only one annoyed by this clickbate
This aged well... Casuals talk just to talk
I find the issue with KD on any team is when a team acquires KD they always have to give up a lot which leads to a team with outstanding offense but no depth which really stunts a teams potential the best scenario for KD is for him to go to a team in free agency that way whatever team he lands on doesn’t sacrifice so much for him
With our young core here in OKC. Come on home KD win with our guys now and we'll forgive you!
Kevin Durant has now played with Westbrook, Harden, Curry, Green, Thompson, Irving, Harden again, Booker, and Beal. I'm guessing all of those guys besides Beal make the Hall of Fame. I don't think playing with seven future Hall of Famers and only coming away with two titles, with both being on the most loaded team of all time, is a good legacy. He's going to be seen as a ring chaser.
I say all this as someone who loves watching Durant play. I also respect his genuine love for basketball and that he's a true student of the game. Every time I've listened to him on podcasts, I've enjoyed his insights and observations. I'm not a KD hater. I'm just laying out the reality of how the public will likely perceive him if this latest move doesn't work out. One Jokic ring will carry 10 times the weight of KD's rings because of the context.
Is that fair? Maybe not. But that's how people think about these things.
The roster construction in PHX is just horrible. They have nobody who can facilitate, all three of them are mainly iso players that need the ball in their hands. Neither KD nor Booker should bring up the ball, yet the suns kind of have to try to make them occasional PGs, which they both are simply not good at.
The biggest Problem is that nobody defends on this team, and i include KD in that even though he has his defensive moments, but overall his defense is extremely lazy. The craziest thing was recently in the mavs game, where Booker turns the ball over, does not challenge the shot at all during the fast break and then has the balls to scream at his teammates.
BACK TO THE WARRIORS!
Lets go PHX three game winstreak boy! Make a new video
The harden thing is so insanely underrated, they made maybe the best team ever and played 12 games together, harden and KD were great together in the games they had without kyrie, but kyrie made them actually unbeatable as the 3rd guy since they are all great shooters and harden was the only fascilitsting poing guard. Its a heavenly match but harden wanted out too early i feel, he could have given it at least 1 more year i feel Ben rly destroyed the team honestly that trade is so bad looking back, juck.
KD vision of that team manifasted is super valid