Garage Ceiling Overhaul
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2016
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In this video we remove all the drywall from the ceiling and replace it with OSB. This adds additional function to the garage and allows my husband to hangs things from the ceiling without the constraint of locating a rafter. This DIY garage overhaul project took us about 2 days to complete. - Jak na to + styl
April, this is an awesome video, great team work!
I would go back over the ceiling and place screws at 6" on center of the perimeter of each sheet with a minimum of 8" centers 'in the field of the boards', (we used old 1970's sheetrock screw guns) even if the boards/sheets have several nails holding everything in place now. (Also I would place battens at 4'o.c. each directions to cover the exposed OSB joints, just fancier for some people.) Use screws that penetrate at least twice the depth of the thickness of the OSB board, but be sure they penetrate at least 1.5" minimum into the ceiling joists, or two times the thickness of the fastened board, which is a "considered standard" or which ever is greater, (ie 1" thick boards requires 3" screws) my 1968 Basic Minimum Carpentry Practices. Many people will tell you this is overkill for screw length, but I learned ""the hard way."
Remember, "nothing too strong ever broke."
Off subject just a little, sorry.
From 1968, at age 20 and during the 70's decade an employee and I could install 20'X20' plywood ceilings in 2 hours, without nail guns! Time was money and I was building/contracting homes for a 100% fixed fee. Less labor used and a more effective use of materials was more profit for me. Again we worked harder not always smarter. The employees (age 40 was my youngest employee, up to age 57) were paid the top scale for carpenters of that era, more than some Texas carpenters as I had 3 from Dallas, who were longtime employees working for me. That said, many things are vastly improved in today's world and much easier but many people seam to make them harder hoping technology is the answer to everything. But manual labor jobs must be done for the tech people to look good, projects still have to be put in/on the ground, like the physical work you do for your videos.
I could make a small fortune (if I had a LARGE one to start with...lol) in today's world by offering a fixed dollar cost completed structure. And that is the only way I would want to work, no surprises for the Contractor or the Homeowner. But 68 is too old to learn current construction trends and styles....ahh the good old days.
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Glad I happened upon this. I have to do the same repairs in my garage. Unfortunately, it has blown in insulation & it will be a mess! The ratchet strap idea for the door track is great. I was stressing over how to do that part.
Awesome job guys! I enjoyed watching you and Cody tackle this project. As someone that is also used to working alone in the shop it can be "interesting" when you add another person to the mix... even more so when that person is your spouse. Keep up the good work and for the love of everything that is holy watch out for those curbs ; )
Been there too many times.
Own a hundred year old home. Your garage is my every day life...lol
Great job April
Hahahahahaha...I love that he said good luck...and then you actually needed it to back the truck up!! Good stuff, love you guys!!!
Girl you need ur own show! Love the projects you get done!!!! Amazing Amazing 👏
It was fun seeing you all working together. Nice job.
I just did this to my new garage/shop this weekend, The drywall lift is definitely the way to go.
It's a nice teamwork ..... and well done ... congratulations April...
you shouldn't use ellipsis like this, it makes you come off as a sarcastic douchebag.
Oh Boy, that Garage sure is coming along nicely. Excellent work, Looks Fantastic!
Hit the curb or the car......Good choice! LOL Great seeing a video with you and Cody working together.....Love to see more!
Good good stuff! yep So anyway I will be making some videos as soon as I figure it all out one of them will be how I added storage / tool wracks into my garage between the rafters instead of closing them in like this. the units are basic book shelving unit with filled in bottom / backs, it would be the bottom when their in the up position and back when they are swung down to were we can access the tools or stuff ( paints glues ext. ) real handy and saves a boat load of floor space for bigger power tools and the like. Keep the videos coming.
great job ! nice to see young love able to work together without killing each other 😊
on a side note here in the uk it would be expected to stagger the joints across the boards to prevent cracking later. we would also be expected to use plaster board (think you guys call it gyprock ? over there) and you would be expected to plaster skim after as part of fire regulations.
Thanks for the video, great team work, Being a woodworking enthusiast and motor enthusiast, I'm confused as to who's shop I like more........anyways, keep up the good work, I look forward to your future videos.
When my Dad was renovating the house when I was a child, he built a square shaped frame out of 2x4 planks with a vertically moving insert which could be slowly lifted up with the piece of drywall ontop using a crowbar at each corner then sliding a screwdriver into 2 holes in each piece to act as a pin. It was crude but worked very well and it saved on going out and buying a specialty made device like the one you guys used.
Just a thought if anyone wanted to replicate it.
I actually found your channel via Diresta after binging through his entire channel.
You're awesome! Subscribing!
I see someone already talk about the codes and the fire rating. I deal with fire codes for a living. You also have problems with off gases from your vehicles going to to the living areas. I know Ft. Worth would have made you pull a permit to do that kind of work and would not pass the remodel. No preaching, just concerned. I am glad to see you and Cody working together. Just don't scratch the car.:)
Excellent video April. Thanks for showing this.
Good call on renting a drywall lifter, April. They work awesome!
I helped a guy do a similar job years ago when most people used nails for drywall or whatever they were sheeting with. He was in a hurry because he only had a little time off work so he decided to drive in screws with a hammer. It worked surprisingly well I thought.
Great job and video, with teamwork thrown in for good measure. Thanks for sharing.
Cody's headshake when she was backing up..... hilarious, he knew what was coming!! Lmao!
I see that everyone has commented on items like fire codes, staggering the joints, off gassing, etc. I got one more. It looks like your ceiling joists are on 24 inch centers instead of 16. To prevent sagging, one by fours need to be run perpendicular to the joists @ 16" O.C.. Use of construction adhesive is also a plus. A fire resistive paint may need to be used on the OSB.
I left mine open for extra storage space and ventilation. Nice finished look on your project.
Looks like there are a lot of fun toys in that garage! Awesome to see you two working together:)
updated lighting too, awesome that will make a nice change for him, & see you both worked together nicely :) looks great
Nice job! It's great to see a couple work well together to accomplish this task. Liked this video 4 sure.
Best darn paint job I've seen in all my years! Once again April - good thinking. Got the job done. You running for council anytime soon?
the drywall lift is a godsend. I did a whole house by myself with one of these.
cool to see cody´s shop...and of course you guys working together! sweet rides :)
Never saw OSB with that type of backing on it. Great job, no violence at all. I can't work with my wife.
Yeah the only 1/2" OSB the big box store sells is for roofing. The backing is radiant barrier. Lol, yeah no big blow outs on this one but working together all the time isn't for either one of us. ; )
Drywall lifts are awesome. I bought one for about $150 about 10 years ago. Used it last week to move my air filter.
Hi April , I was just wondering everywhere I lived the garage had to have a fire rated sheet rock is Texas different ?
OSB with radiant foil backer on it ! how cool is that ! I wish my home depot had that in stock
April, driver's side reverse light
is out, on the Toyota truck.
GREAT video!
steve
Great job guys. now I am thinking about doing this in my garage.
You did good as a team recovering the ceiling. BTW nice looking C6.
Great video like your getting your family in video to i plan on building hunting cabin and will be trying to find that type of OSB never seen it before.Keep up the great work and god bless
Great work, thanks for taking the time and sharing!!
Ah, the good old B.C. days (before Covid). Today the OSB alone is nearly $500. Y'all did good.
watching your video was great to get ideas for when i get my garage up ..... So thankx
Genius move using a ratchet strap when doing the garage door. Can’t believe I haven’t thought of that before, could have saved me so much grief
Thank You for doing this video. Now my issue with my garage ceiling makes sense.
Another great video April wish I'd known about those dry wall lifts when I was fitting my ceiling in the hobby room I think I used a 4by2 plank and some rope oh and a hard hat hehe.
Is that OSB board lined with foil on one side?
I think I used foil covered bubble wrap and rock wool to insulate my roof. Keep up the good work April lovely to see you and your other half working together
Darren
Enjoy your channel. You should stagger the seams when sheeting w OSB... Drywall... etc. The drywall coming off the ceiling would typically be due to moisture (the roof probably leaks)
Good call on renting that drywall lift! I've used a big T to hold up one end while my head holds up the other and that is no fun. Headache for a week. lol Looks much better now.
+Steve Carmichael I did the same thing. Why!!!!! I wish I had that thing.
***** I've tried something similar before. It was a total waste of time. That drywall lift is golden...the lesson is not too cheap out! Especially when doing multiple sheets. So much easier and less hassle.
+Steve Carmichael I spent 10 years fitting plasterboard (your drywall) with just my head and a set of steps, takes practice but in the end I could do a full ceiling with 10 foot X 4 foot, 5/8 sound board :)
As I posted - for my garage ceiling, I purchased a dry wall life from Harbor Freight. On sale now for $215 but with the 20% coupon and then add sales tax, the final cost was $188. They are offered used on Craig List for $150 - so after my use, I will offer for resale $150 and take $125. So my final cost will be about $63. Compare that to a rental. Here a weekly rental for this lift is $200. The HF lift is a well-built product but not as user friendly as the rental. Take care then it is a great alternative to renting.
Nice job! Ambitious project. I too have questions about fire code. I believe if you don't have a room above garage you can use 5/8" sheetrock on wall adjoining living space, mud and taped up to top chord of truss and you'd be okay. Just a though. keep on keeping on!
Great job thAt board lifter is a dream plus I love that mini on the driveway
great job you 2! looks much better and will last a lot longer!
Grab some orange safety cones, then go to a big parking lot somewhere and place them to mimic a parking slot and practice backing up into them. Do this for an hour or so and you'll be a pro at backing up. :-) Great job on the ceiling, it's looks great, now he needs to paint the walls white to match. Thanks for the vid April!
With the weight of the insulation over time those nails will pull out of the rafters, you may want to go back and add some drywall screws in, so your panels will stayed in over time, nails will always work loose over time with temperature and humidity changes. looks good and iit's nice to see both you and your husband working together.
Oh good tip! I'll go back and add a few.
Great job. Maybe should have staggered the joints of the osb though to improve the rigidity of the ceiling joists. Also, the gaps between the joints would drive me crazy... I would get some 1/4" lattice molding and trim the ceiling joints with it. It'll give it a board and batten appearance, and hide the gaps. Once painted white to match, it would look great. I also commend you for choosing osb with a heat reflective veneer on one side. This will also work as a Vapor barrier to prevent attic humidity from attacking the osb.
Don't worry about backing up the truck. Forget about using the mirrors to do it. Turn your head and look directly through the back window to back up. Much more instinctive and much easier that way. You will be surprised at how easy it was to back up that way.
Good job thanks for the tutorial. Is there any reason why you didn’t isolate the ceiling are we supposed to isolate only the walls ??
Awesome makeover in your garage!!! I am getting a list of materials to do the inside of mine and was wanting some pointers I guess. I want to hang them vertically on the walls, but have heard that they need to be offset. Is that true, and if it is, how much offset do I need to make it?
Hey April, it funny how everyone must point out everything you did wrong, didn't do, etc. Great video!
Haha yeah, it's the nature of things. ; )
You're a little genius you have very good eye for project work 😊
Thank you!
hi April ive just subscribed love your videos wish i had half your talent with wood. love your little wave at the end .
Actually that's a pretty cool project to do!! I like the idea of a painted, reflective OSB wall for a garage.
Doesn't meet building code though and could invalidate insurance in event of a fire, Drywall only in an attached garage.
Hi April,
You and Cody work well together. Hope we see more of the both of you. Great comment about your truck. :-)
You might be in violation of building codes for a garage ceiling, especially for 24" centers. Also, the sheets should have been staggered. Of course if there is a code violation then the staggered sheets point is moot. The garage shall be separated from the residence and its attic area by not less than ½” gypsum board applied to the garage side. Garages beneath habitable rooms shall be separated from all habitable rooms above by not less than 5/8” Type X gypsum board or equivalent. Where the separation is a floor-ceiling assembly, the structure supporting the separation shall also be protected by not less than ½” gypsum board or equivalent. (IRC sec. R309.2)
Good job and cool to see you two working together. I hope one of those Dirt bikes is yours( my wife rides and I love going out together)! Cool deal on the neighborhood insulation. Did everyone just pitch in a little for rental of the machine and materials? I like the idea of OSB for the ceiling. Makes it easy to hang things. I have a lot of stuff stored on my ceiling. Ladders and such.
april...I want to make some shutters like in the peacock room. my problem is how to mount them to the window. do I have to make a frame...what type of hinges to use. do I have to make a floating middle for wood expansion or can it be a full pieces ....can I use mdf and route the edges.
can u help with this? anyone?
In my garage I have 2x4 truss's at 24inch center's. Will that support drywall or is drywall too heavy?
If you ever use a drywall lift again, pull out the two legs that are on each end of the jack to where they are within a few inches from the end of the sheet, You'll have better support and balance. I've hung thousands of sheets of drywall and maybe a few hundred sheets of plywood all by my myself using my own jack. A few years before I retired I hung a very large garage and workshop using Advantec, which is a superior grade of OSB and no gaps were required.
Getting ready to put a white metal ceiling in my detached garage! Great tips here!!
I need to do this to my garage.great video!
Just to second what others have said, check about building codes for your area on fire protection, especially as they can change if you are fitting new ceiling material, plus also about screwing the boards up, not to sure about the 6 inch centers mentioned, now I know it is a UK spec, but in a 4 foot wide board as a rule of thumb it is 5 screws in the end of a board, then 4 screws into each ceiling joist in the middle of the board, if you are nailing it up double the amount :)
Great teamwork. Oh, the joys of overhead sheet work.....a lift is WITHOUT DOUBT the only way to go. Is that a DIYTyler "Hair Pin" I see @0:10 ??
Lol, Yeah I love your pencil the best because it's orange.
1/2" material with the 24" spacing may not support the insulation over time. May start to sag if you don't put in some cross bracing between the rafters. Cool that you are getting free insulation though. I'd love to get my garage insulated one day.
Is there a reflective material on the sheets of osb you used and if so what does it do, reflect heat in summer?
Great video guys!!
Great collab! Have a super Sunday April! 😉 Oh...you need a new bulb for your reverse light on the drivers side😜
; ) Haha yeah yeah, it's on the list. You have a good Sunday as well.
you two are great what a awesome partnership
I saw your video before you didn't wear gloves. Today you did. That's good. PPE should be wear all the time.
Good job April! But you need to be careful. Love you!
Wow, another great project!
The old ceiling wasn't really good in shape, as you had seen by the removing of it... you touched the old plates less craftful and they fell down! :D
Have fun with the new ceiling!
5/8" firex drywall for attached garages with staggered seams. With all the toys and car, there's nothing to stop fumes and anything else from easily making its way into the main dwelling.
Not trying to be negative, but if anything ever happened that stemmed from the garage, and you're homeowners insurance company saw this video, you may be outta luck with coverage.
Loved the ending!
Great job, love ur videos. Cheers!!
Gitr done for the free insulation installation! haha. No vapor barrier though? The insulation just sits on the osb? i do not know much about this or texas humidity
is the roof space storage still usable? without baseboard over the joists??
I didn't notice any new ply going up for an attic floor?? The lighting looks much better now as well....
Nice upgrade!!
Great job April!!!
so you've redone the two walls and the ceiling. when's the garage door being insulated? eager to see that one
Well done! I'm surprised Cody was parking his car in the garage. That sheetrock came off scary easy. I'm jealous of the big boy toys. :)
Why did you use the foil backed OSB? Hoping it will act as radiant barrier?
For future reference you should stagger the joints for strength. Since you started with a full sheet on the first row the next row should start with a half sheet.
Oh good info, thanks.
New ceiling looks great.
Drywall lifter. That's what I got out of it. Didn't think to use one of those. Nice work.
When i work with my dad i always end up pulling the nails and i have found that using a long crowbar i the easiest and fastest way to do so because you dont need to constantly move the ladder.
Nice job April!!!!!
good job ,good to see the team effort,but did you consider metal instead of particle board?
Good job, what kind of paint did you use ?
My question is will 1/2 inch OSB be OK for 24 inch on center ceiling joists? I am currently insulating the ceiling.
In my garage shop, I was planning on using sheetrock on the ceiling but seeing how easily you tore it down, I am now reconsidering OSB, also like the idea of nailing rather than using screws - nailing has to be faster and easier. I don't have such an agile, strong and willing partner to leap into the joists, like your husband. Can I rent him?
I checked on renting a lift and since I think at my age it might go slower, the rental quoted was $200/week (7 days) - I think the dally rate was around $40. So I checked into Harbor Freight's lift. It is on sale in May for $215. I am not certain if the 20% off coupons works with the lift but if so, the cost before tax is $172. My plan, assuming the 20% coupon applies is after my garage ceiling is complete to sell it on Craig List for $150 and take $125. For a total cost to me of around $60 including tax. Not bad for a lift that I might need for three or more weeks. This lift has good reviews. If the coupon does not apply, I will shop Craig List - there are a few used lifts offered around $150.
Really enjoy your videos - thank you for them.
Beautiful woman who is smart , handy not afraid of hard work loves her husband and can laugh at herself makes you 10x more beautiful. Love your work and attitude.
Good forethought with the radiant barrier backing on the OSB.
Great video as always April.
Is your truck green or black. I have a green tacoma double cab. but i had a truck like yours before this one. Love toyota trucks
looks good I would use the O S Bead board too