Jim Cornette Looks At December 1984 In Mid South & World Class
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Jim Cornette easily has the best and most informative stories about the territory days.
idk if you know who Buck O'Neil is, but he is a Negro Leagues baseball veteran who is an amazing story teller of old tyme baseball stories. Jim is basically a more vulgar modern version of him
He played a great heel manager too.
welcome2havoc thanks for the intel, I’m all over it. Is it audio? Did he keep records of attendance?
I can only imagine Corny telling that DJ he likes Barry Manilow in Louisiana. Cripe that kind of heat isn't even allowed in WWE these days.
I'm from Dallas and was blessed to see Jim in person at the Sportatorium and I remember that snowstorm it was crazy!!!
Johnny Richardson could you tell that Von Erich was trashed?
bobby eaton used to love to read the stuff the announcers had on the podium while cornette was talking. half the fun was watching bobby glancing over and down and then the facial expressions he made as he would read the stuff the announcers had written down on various aspects of the show.
Cornette is a champion story teller he got me believing that I was wrestling in the Mid-South back then and I was only 4yrs old 🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I been living here in Charlotte for 10 years I have now been listening to cornette mentioned Charlotte in almost every other podcast wow Charlotte was really jumping
Charlotte is where Crockett Promotions' head office was located and where most of the talent lived. And Greensboro was also a mega big deal for that era in wrestling
The day I realized Corny was great? The day I realized how hard he worked to make me hate him. Love the stories, keep em coming
This Couldn't be better said
(Sums up how i feel)
#J.C. ONE THE LEGENDS IN THIS BIZ
He was such a smug prick, even now when I watch his stuff from JCP & such I still want to smack him in the face and shove that racket where the sun don't shine.
Yesssirree. For me it was 1984, what he’s discussing HERE. That would be the first time I heard him talk though my snowy black and white while realizing that’s a tennis racket in his hand. Between him and Garvin mistreating Sunny I was sold bigtime on WCCW right away.
He did his job
EXACTLY that's why his baby face turn in late 1988 with Paul E was perfectly timed!
84’ is the year I rediscovered wrestling thanks to my buddies going on and on about HoganIron Shiek. I’ll never forget that Saturday afternoon I discovered NWA/WCCW on my small, cableless black and white set. First Cornette viewing played a role in keeping me engaged til this day fer sure. “Is that a tennis racket” I asked through the fuzzy snow as I weaved my antenna back in forth as I wished I lived a little closer to Chicago
I can't get out my head the promo where he says he bought a copy of we are the world😂😂😂😂😂
The way Corny tells these stories it seems like you're riding along with him and the boys as it happened!! I can't believe these soda pop promotions isn't utilizing his wealth of experience to make wrestling what it once was!!
Hubris
jim cornette the james brown of wrestling, the hardest working man in show biz
One big difference, Corny doesn’t do meth.
Man these guys earned their money.
George Cameroon he called WCCW “a 6 month vacation”
They didn't earn there money. they got screwed on there money 😂
I could listen to Jim talk wrestling all day wait I just did lol love these stories
If the government could fine Cornette a dollar everytime he said the F-Word we could payoff the national debt
sorry to be so off topic but does anybody know of a trick to get back into an instagram account..?
I stupidly forgot the login password. I would appreciate any help you can give me.
@Michael Duncan Instablaster :)
If we could convert anger in to energy Corny would be a infinite power source.
@@troesler81 Especially if Shitstain is involved.
I have to reply to on all of his pod shoots , because the stories are just so fkn funny LMFAO...😆
I lived in Shreveport my entire life. Mid-South Wrestling was and still is the king of making talent into major stars and Bill Watts had a vision of creating stars and tag teams and making them money.
I grew up in Alexandria n Mid South was it and is still talked about today.
I was born 1986 in New Orleans and every body that grew up in the 80s and 70s still talk about Mid South and WCCW
I wish Jim cornette would do DVD on MidSouth wrestling from start to demise.
Jarrell Daniel That would be cool
It would be more than cool,probably make a fortune in the process
Same with Memphis. And put it all on you tube
And world class
WOW! Corny has definitely payed his dues.
I will admit that Corny speaks of wrestling in the era of the 70's and 80's from a very subjective POV and a lot of that subjective view I agree with. Hard to argue Corny's point that FAR fewer people see wrestling on a regular must less a weekly basis today than they did back in the old territory era. In the south, any town with a TV station it seemed carried wrestling in some form on the local TV at some point over a weekend. And a live show at some point during a month if not weekly was within driving reach just about anywhere in the south. By the time Corny got to the Crockett Territory with the Midnight Express, one would be hard pressed to find a better manager in the craft. I live watching his old promos with Stan Lane who more than once you could tell wants to just loose it. Corny once said that he would show newbies video of Ole Anderson on how to shoot promos and draw money. Well Corny my friend, your videos would be "must see" in my book on how to shoot promos and draw money.
Wrestling was pretty serious business in the mid west too. And had a really, really heavy sports oriented presentation.
Hell the NWA was founded in the mid west, in St. Louis, Ohio/Michigan Shiek territory was NWA, then a crap ton of the Midwest was AWA, and Indiana was more or less an AWA training territory.
Imagine the time, travel and headaches Cornette and these guys put up with for YEARS. It's mind boggling how much of their lives these guys gave to this business. I have a ton of respect for the work ethic of Cornette and his guys and all of these guys.
I dont always agree on his view on politics or on his opinion of modern day wrestling. BUT I LOVE THE OLD WRESTLING STORIES
John Gally same here. Respect!
I agree with his political views and LOVE his old wrestling stories.
His stories are great
Me too, do not agree with him at all with Politics, but could talk Pro Wrestling with Him All Day, TEAM TRUMP4LIFE
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I always liked the heels but Road Warriors Dusty and Wahoo were my favs! And of course the Nature Boy!
Biloxi is where I would go see Mid South every two weeks...it didnt feel like a sheeeeeet town
Craig Anderson the fans weren’t as rowdy as he and everyone else that wrestled there tell us? I’ve heard more than one crazy CRAZY stories from guys like Jim Duggan
I miss these kind of deep dives
These guys busted their asses for a couple hundred dollars a night. That’s passion. Love these stories
I wonder what Cornette thinks of Joe Brandon?
Heck in Texas if we get one inch of snow the state shuts down
the 1993 Dallas Miami football game on Thanksgiving day was awesome
@@nicktucker3437 Wasn't that the Leon Lett game?
@@DMS-pq8 yes, 1 of them
That's what it's like in England any snow at all and nothing runs no trains or planes and I wouldn't mind if we actually got any real snow if we get a 1/4 inch we are lucky
Jim is like the curator of all things wrestling...
84 was an epic year
Jackson Anderson Sadly, McMahon was laying his foundation to take over.
The year wrestling pulled me back in. Great year for music also.
Great year for World Class Championship Wrestling in Carolina, Mid South and Dallas even music has huge bump but The Carolinas was on 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Cornette Dusty Crockett Sullivan Watts Fritz Mantel were booking there asses off and that’s just booking
It would take me all day to talk the wrestlers it was a hall of fame line up in the locker room
@@travismcdonald6576 You mean ruin every thing.
Wrestling is supposed to look athletic, and real, not like Cirque de Soleil...
Love the stories, keep em coming when I was a little boy my father used to take me
I've heard Bruce Prichard talk about Houston a lot and the old Summit Building which Lakewood Church now owns. I saw a couple or more wrestling events in the Summit as a kid and I remember the place and i also remember the old Richfield Coliseum in Richfield, Ohio. Can't replace venues like those or the history of how wrestling really was before WWE took it to crap.
yea vince is so rich because its terrible ur a moron
Sorry Daniel, vince killed the industry as a whole. I'd rather have the 3 or 4 territories I could watch in the 80's than anything WWE does.
Shit I live in the Central States/St.Louis Territory and we get 6 inches of snow and don’t even put our snow boots on
Jim Cornette best of all time
He honed his craft really fast. The man did good.
That travel story made me dizzy....
I think it can be easily explained why House Shows were bigger back then. With Monthly PPVs plus a bigger focus on Weekly television it's almost as if why bother going to a House show since house shows now are basically treated as second rate events rather then the main event. Only way you can increase the house show market is basically get rid of PPV and go back to making weekly TV not the main selling point and I can't see WWe stopping that since those are their main money generators.I should probably add that Impact might want to look at putting less emphasis on weekly TV being it's "A" product and try use the show to try create stars people will pay to see at house shows.
I think TNA/Impact/GFW/whatever the hell would do much better if they focused on house shows or live events. Let's face it, their TV has been like watching a slow-motion trainwreck for years, and the only way I can see for them to truly push the reset button is to get off TV, and focus on building up the live events. Either that or, as I believe I've heard Jim mention before, trying their luck in the UK. From my limited understanding, live wrestling is still a big fucking deal over there, and TNA/Impact/whatever isn't overexposed in that market.
Also back then, the tv shows were merely used to drive traffic to the house shows, which was where the real angles played out
I remember that Flair/Kerry match. Flair was flipping himself because Kerry forgot every spot. Flair reverse the figure 4 on himself. Lmao
According to David Manning said that Kerry had had his ACL worked on the week before. No doubt he was on an incredible amount of pain pills to wrestle that match. The Texas area was a rough territory. Hard rings and hard potatoes
@@davestuddaman8127 and hard drugs
@@davestuddaman8127 manning is so full of shit
I wish you guys could have more stampede and AWA content and even the Los Angles territory as there seems to be so little content over it's history.
Welllll if he didn't see it
Good grief I think they may have overdone the scaffold match
They weren't overdone, these were the days before cell phones where people could record every moment and stick in on CZcams so not everyone got to see it so I dont think they overdid it because if you weren't there you didnt see it
It sucked when the Road Warriors did the stupid “scaffold match”
I saw one and that was all it took. Nothing much could be done because of the real possibility of very serious injury.
Little Rock , Ar Barton Colusem a lot of showes. Thank you , Corney.
Never gets old hearing corny telling old stories about the territory days.
Grizzly smith had the strangest segment in "beyond the mat"
Child molesters tend not to be a good interview....
"He was born outta love..... And I love'em"...(deep drag on a lucky strike)~Grizzly Smith. Fucking Chomo!
@@jeremybayne5895 Aaah a Lucky Strike..
Jim cornette tells great stories but truth be told nor him nor who he was managing was much entertaining for an era of such great talent
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tell u m jimmy....i comletly agree with you...on wrestling being nothing but a freak show now....i havent tuned into wwe ...in iguess its been about eight years i want nothing to do with it.... just give me the good ole wrestling and im happy..
Flair vs Kerry match of the year
My God how many cars did they go though?? As far as miles...
Cornette mentioned the unavailable Midnight Express book. After reading the Louiseville Gardens book, I really want to read the Midnight Express book. It would be sweet if he'd re-release it, but I understand that he does a lot of his book stuff by himself, so I get why he can't do it.
there's one on ebay.
Tommy S. Is there? I'll have to check. Was it reasonably priced?
$300.00 but it was autographed by Jim and some of the Midnight X-press.
Tommy S. Ouch. It's cool that they autographed it. I've never been big on autographs and I'm not really interested in it as a collectible. I'm more interested in it for the stories being told in it. I would take a cheap copy with no cover, lol. I appreciate the look out though man.
Love to hear corney mention lake charles Louisiana
I have a lot of family there , myself
Lmao!!!!!!- cornette is king
Chick Donovan was Iron Sheik class but never got a push.
I always noticed "Second Class" wrestling Dallas was like a "short stop" for anybody whose name is not Von Erich--no one ever stayed there long, very transient territory for a lot of stars on their way up
Ummm no
You're out of your mind so much talent was born there such as King Kong Bundy The Ultimate Warrior The Undertaker just to name a few Stone Cold Steve Austin Bruiser Brody was a mainstay so you really have no idea what you're talkin about
@@chrischar9428 the guy is an ignoramus who doesn't know what he was talking about most of the talent during that era came out of Dallas
As they say, traditions and old ways did not endured until now for nothing. They have proven to work, thats why wrestling drew like this back then and now thats why it draws what it can draws today...
will the midnight express book ever be available again
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He cracks me up confusing Monroe NC for LA!
He means Monroe LA here. It's a city of about 60,000 people, with a university so it had decent wrestling venues. Corny always mentions that he and the boys lived in Alexandria LA while in mid south-- that is in the center of the state, about 100 miles from Monroe.
@@testodude And just so happens Monroe NC is outside of Charlotte NC, where he and Dennis Condrey (1/2 of Midnight Express) wanted to go!
@@patrickgreene2593 Yep. But Jim was talking about Mid South in 1984 here. They went to Monroe LA twice a month.
Crazy $
Cornette is so proud of making Watts wealthy and getting peanuts in return
Htf is Alexandria to Lafayette a 400 mile round trip that’s no more than a 100 mile round trip
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Jim cornette incredible that's all I got to say
Was Ken Mantel and Dutch Mantel related?
That's a hard no.
I didn’t exist back then. So this is cool
With all the travel how did they break even?
Most of the time they drove and split expenses 3+ ways so its not as expensive. Also, the money they were making was BIG money back then.
I never like Jim Cornette as a heel manager with that said he tells the greatest stories with the Midnight Express payout. If I'm not mistaken he made more money than the Midnight Express.
Jesus this guy seems to be stuck in the 80s.
Does the guy on the far right have white tights on under his shorts or did he always tan with jeans on?
Its Eaton's pants
Corny was too cheap to fly on SOUTHWEST AIRLINES. What a dummy, SOUTHWEST was dirt cheap in the 80s.
Jim is very skiddish on flying. always was.
Did he just say he doesn’t believe in God or Support Trump?
He is a hardcore demonrat. Yep. he should be made to live in those shitholes otherwise known as demonrat heavens. He can afford cardboard boxes and a good tent too. The life of luxury in those places.
Trump doesn't believe in God, either. He couldn't even name a bible passage when a reporter asked what were some of his favorite verses.
The Cornette Variant
I was born on nov 27th 84
Nice! I was born Oct 26th 84.
Why did Monroe LA suck in late November of 1984?
One Name: Phil Robertson
AKA The Duck Commander, from the hit show Duck Dynasty.
On November 26th, 1984, you fellas were in the Duck Hunting capital of the world, AND home of the king of duck hunting, during the opening week of duck season.
You might as well have been in Salt Lake City on Easter Sunday, or Augusta during the finals of the Masters. LOL!!!
That's one upside to the assimilation of the human race into the interweb, those locale specific event conflicts are a little easier to identify and avoid what with every event from Times Square Ball Drop on News Years to Sonya Hennings Tutu's 50th Anniversary masquerade, karaoke sing-off, and Drag Queen show having its very own website with daily reminders and all.
It is so sad that knowing this obscure piece of information and being able to pass it on to Corney is such a pleasure for me. Ha haa. It's like what I imagine trying to hand Mean Joe Green his Jersey in a Pop Commercial must feel like. LOL!!!
That is the longest post just not to say a damn thing I have ever heard. Good job ???
Frotz ruined WWCW wrestling look at the talent he had the midnight Express and not pay them wht they are worth not thinking you need bad guys for the heros to fight. He must have thought that theyll be happy with nothing like the aging old guys who just want a payday , not the up and coming stars of the furture
Who the hell is sweet sweet Connie
I think he said she was the manager who loved wrestling and gave the guys great rates when they stayed there.
Sweet sweet Connie is also a famous rock star groupie. Pretty sure she’s mentioned in the grand funk railroad song American band
I love the wrestling and political views!! 🎩🎩 #TopShelf
15:12. Nice towns in the south huh...
No worse that the stabbings and things were done at MSG.
Hate Jim's political rants but with that said he is still the most entertaining wrestling personality alive!!
He needs to live in the shithole cities that are ran by the scum he supports. Sometimes seeing is believing.
I lived in Fort Worth and watched Sat night rasslin on Channel 11. This wrestling SUCKED compared with Florida or Georgia NWA except for the Von Erichs and Freebirds and when Flair showed up.
That was a terrible Bill Dundee impression.
Ross Cicero I think Bill Dundee has kind of a southern accent nowadays.
VVvaa
Right on wrestling and wrong on politics.
I love listening to Cornett but I'm still voting Trump!!!!
Go away Trumpet supporter
this aged well
@@bobsappsjockstrap 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Todays wrestling is dead which I agree, I dont believe in a one God and I voted for Trump, I LOVE his wrestling stories and his Opinion's ..... like it or not!
patrick ray respect!.🎩 I think Jim Cornette can make America great again!👍👍
I voted for Trump to buddy, still like listing to his stories
I believe in god and love wrestling 🤼♀️
me to
yes you do because both are fake.
@@AngelSanchez-si4xe the best way to prove your not stupid keep your stupid comments to yourself
@MR.WILLIE 95 "you're"
Helps to have good grammar if you're going to call others stupid.
As usual it was good til Jim went to Trump and God. perhaps Jims God doesn't exist, mine does; though.
No bud, you just ‘think’ your ‘god’ exists, and that doesn’t make it true! You have the burden of proof, as you have made the claim, and no such claim about a ‘god’ or religion can ever beat the question of ‘prove it!’ There may be a ‘god,’ but there isn’t any legit evidence to back it up - or of storybooks and anecdotes are not legit evidence! Love Mr Cornette telling stories, and love that he is an atheist just like me
How old are you? 5?
@@jamestracey2006 You go knowitall.
Whenever Jim cornette talks about Professional Wrestling he is enjoyable. Whenever he talks about stupid fucking politics he is absolutely annoying to listen to. Fuck Politics give me wrestling
Love your stories, but keep your opinion of God to yourself.
Fool, you had to SEARCH CORNY OUT, He didn't come knocking on your ear drums, ffs mate.
WHY HES RIGHT
Which god?
Its his podcast. His opinion (which i agree with). Dont like it. Dont listen. Its pretty simple.
Oh he’ll believe alright....sooner or later😜