Jim Cornette on Wrestling Road Schedules
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- čas přidán 21. 10. 2020
- From Episode 162 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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"Cpt. Lou Albano looked at me and said. Kid there are only two thing real in wrestling. The money and the Miles" - Kevin Nash
“Sid who’s the giant fucking jabroni?” Haha
Kid, there are only two thing real in wrestling - torn quads and adjectives...
@@maxand.1462 to hell with the verbs. 😂
@Tim Allen On his shoot video he said Albano
I thought it was the Pussy and the Paychecks?
I love hearing jims stories about travel and how things were back in those days in wrestling,always a good listen.
It's an interesting topic. I feel tired just hearing about the schedule him and the Midnight Express were on at one point though.
@@tempestfennac9687 I worked at WCW (promotions) and traveled with the boys. What Jim did not touch on was the type of rent a car you drove. A Cadillac or Lincoln was comfy and a smooth ride. A van was roomy. Where it sucked was a smaller sedan or economy size vehicle. Eating on the road became better in the 90s and in larger cities. The hard part was locating a gym and one that would allow you to work out, especially in small towns. Laundry was the biggest bitch. Jimmy never went to the gym. His mouth was his muscle.
@@diamondwchamp That makes sense as far as gyms and laundry go (I remember Jim mentioning in another video about how a lot of people would just use the baths in their motel rooms to try to get clothes clean).
@@tempestfennac9687 Arn would hang his clothes on a hanger and then on the shower curtain rod. Turn the hot water to full blast and steam the room to rid the wrinkles.
@@diamondwchamp That doesn't sound fun for the other occupants (assuming they were around at the time).
Jim nailed it on that Dusty Rhodes impersonation.
Love how the thumbnail shows Corny wearing his glasses even while sleeping. 😁
(he needs a teddy bear & nightcap)
Easy way to break your glasses
@@petemasta99yeah?
Guys during the Territories were the real Road Warriors.
Just like Lemme!
And the late 80s wwf guys who worked ridiculous schedules
The money and the miles. The only 2 things that count
Lol
Hawk n animal were d really road warrior 😀
Being born and raised in Spartanburg I found the first seven minutes to be nostalgic. I was only about 7 or 8 but I remember sitting front row with my grandfather at many of those events. My grandfather was a regular and the ring boys would allow to me to play in the ring after the events. I had the privilege of meeting so many superstars but I remember Wahoo especially. Paw Paw would get me out of school and say that we were going to see the Wrasslin tonight. Those were the f*ckin days!
Y5
PawPaw was a good man.
When I visited my grandparents in Atlanta....grandpa would take me to a house show. Then one morning we got to see a GCW taping. Good times....and Ole just so happened to turn on Dusty that day. Grandpa's are the best.
People used to comment on Bret Hart having every one of his matches on tape and daily dictaphone notes to himself throughout his career to be able to remember things in so much detail but man, thank god for Corny keeping all of this.
His memory is ultra sharp!
Shawn wanted to use Bret's dictaphone, but Bret said use your finger like a normal person.
@@handsolo1209 this made me laugh like an evil mastermind. Well done
Yeah it got me too 😆
That's A LOT of wear & tear on a vehicle too! And as, Cornette said in another podcast, he and all the other performers had to pay for ALL their fuel & food costs. Plus car repairs. Going through that kind of schedule is proof that he and majority of these Wrestlers loved the business. Much respect for all they went through/ go through to entertain us!
The sheer brutality of the road schedules of the larger territories back then is amazing. Definitely not for the faint of heart. It made drug use almost inevitable.
It was the only way to keep moving
No wonder so many guys from back then dropped dead or are in bad health now. Taking various substances to give them the energy they need and dull their pain. Booze, coke, roids and pills are a deadly combination.
Now I understand why most of these guys did cocaine back then
right. you almost HAD to take uppers and downers. something to get you going and something to cool you down after all that adrenaline.
Arn discusses the travel really well on his podcast because they go over the schedule day by day and it was insane.
"might do some bird-watching and make arrangements on how to feed em" LOL
This is one of my favorite segments. Love listening to Jim take us on the trips.
The pigeon innuendo made me spit out my drink
I was looking for this comment, lol! He carried that metaphor all the way to the end, didn't he, haha.
No it didnt
“Turn a Hampton Inn into a bell tower” daaaaaaaamn. Hilariously fantastic
That’s a barb
Bar
I like how Jim's picture accurately portraying the Midnight Express lifting weights as Jim sleeps in bed.
Dennis looked like he might have hit the gym once a year & Bobby maybe once a week
@@TheNotbadphonedaddy Yeah, it was a funny one, I think it's because I grew up during the attitude era, I was born in 87 so I was about 15 when attitude era ended, but you see all the wrestlers roided to the 9s, & even the smaller ones were generally actually in very good shape, like when you consider the fact that Shawn Michaels & Bret Hart are both considered small wrestlers, yet theyre both about 6 foot 2 & 100kg a piece, then you see the midnight express vs the rock & roll, & Ricky Morton legit looks like a cross between Rod Stewart & a gay uncle that noone really likes but have to invite to things out of family loyalty, Robbie Gibson looks like he couldn't fight his way out of an open door, Dennis looks like a wild West 1880s drunk who probably pronounces gym like Homer Simpson, Bobby Eaton is the only one out of the 4 that has any legitimacy in so far as a tough guy image, but to be honest, I think that's mostly because of the other 3.. but they were all great wrestlers, had a rivalry that'll go down in the annals of time & will be talked about as long as wrestling exists, but they just don't look like 'fighting men' compared to the WWE meatheads.
Just going off images though, I wouldn't feel even slightly intimidated by Ricky, Robbie or Dennis, & Bobby Eaton would have me worried but not enough to make me run for my life. If someone like John Cena or Randy Orton was giving me the evil eyes, I'd be shitting myself.
@@stevelowe2647 - I see what you're saying. I do know a bit about there histories. Gibson was a boxer & had a legit left hook that would floor anyone. While he didn't train much, the guy could punch. Ricky on the other hand was not a fighter at all. Neither was Dennis. Bobby wasn't either, but Bobby did occasionally hit the gym.
Cena alone would suck to fight because he's so freakishly strong. People don't think strength means that much until they are grabbed by a strong person & realize there's not much they can do. Orton has an amateur wrestling background. Pretty tough.
@@TheNotbadphonedaddy Cenas one of them, you could PROBABLY outpace him, but if he gets hold of you, you're in trouble. Orton is an angry guy too, so he might be the one to take it a bit far & hurt you hurt you
@@stevelowe2647 That's latr 2000's earls 2010's Orton though. He seems to have mellowed out. Still wouldn't wanna piss him off though.
You know what we want, you know the clip that we want....
tomorrow.
That WWE catering is no joke they have it made , when I was an extra talent here in the Bay Area , man !!! I was in food heaven 😂 great subject ty 🌽ey !!
Is it just me or is anyone else blown away with how good his memory is, about things that happend 25years ago. Btw i love listening to the show.
He wasnt drinking, drugging, or getting concussed like many wrestlers were back then lol
He kept immaculate records, too. His journals would be worth a fortune to collectors.
I'm amazed about how he can remember all of this, I ain't gon lie
Arn tells a similar story about working Mid-South for Watts. That road schedule was brutal, some really long drives.
He's a very anal person, he keeps records of everything, he legit probably has receipts for petrol from 1988, when he wasn't driving or intentionally making Bobby Eaton throw up, he spent the time on the road making notes on all details. He actually failed a how well do you know Jim Cornette quiz, which all the answers were correct because Brian checked them all, with his encyclopaedic knowledge & all his resources, but because Jim didn't have his notes, he only got something like 2 or 3 out of 10
"I have been on exercise equipment and meant it..." 😂
Who’s looking forward to Cornys review of the AEW MUSICAL and the rise of the cleaner KENNY OLIVIER 🧹😙🕺
Oh God. A lesson on how to ruin your top talent and a new face for Olivier that looks like a cross between a fresh buttplug and learning to potty train for the first time.
@@Hellwolf36 AEW is so trash
Mr. Moseby!
He got a lot to talk about it:
AEW Musical
Kenny Olivier squashing a gay
Austin Theory quitting
Football Guy returns
and the rest is fast forward some more 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@TNLable It's going to be priceless, Jim and Brian's reviews are the most honest in podcasts!
Harley Race would keep a blade in car traveling he would constantly go 100 mph and when a state trooper would pull him over he'd blade himself and tell the cop he was on his way to emergency room with blood all over his head the cops would let me go lol
I had a fucking terrible night at my new job. I left borderline in a nervous wreck. Jim's dusty impression made me laugh. Listening to corny lose his shit always makes me feel better
Have to correct you Mr. Cornette:
It’s actually “Natchitoches”; “Nacogdoches is in Texas. They’re sister cities.
Keep up the great work; I can listen to you tell stories for hours!!!
Sincerely,
A Houston, Texas Resident by way of Natchitoches, Louisiana.
Cornette does a great Dusty Rhodes impression.
It's almost like a right of passage in wrestling for everyone to do a Dusty impersonation.😂
@@jimbo-fk4dq a pre-requisite before getting smartened up to the business behind the curtain
Well s*** he spent enough time around him
He listened to him all day 😅
Flair said that he'd do 500 free-hand squats everyday, on the road or not.
Wouldnt that REALLY hurt a mans knees? 500 a day? Holy crap...
@Admiral Benbow bob backlund
@Millennial Smark love your show my man 👍👍👍 been subbed for awhile now..
I love these long form comparisons between wrestling past and wrestling present, the detail Jim goes into is spellbinding!
His dusty Rhodes impression is priceless... I'd pay jim to talk like dusty on a daily..R, I,P Dusty Rhodes
Jim does a better Dusty impression than Dusty did himself!!
He does cameo so pay up
@@stevetrump8823 😂😅👀
Back in wwf days when use watch them in Springfield Civic Center, I remember they had house show that ran like 7pm threw close 2am one time
Wrestlers today have time to run an entire twitch channel while waiting around... ijs
This just proves what we've all said is right, that everything is over-produced and simply spit-and-polished too much. Nothing is original or off the script and it shows.
“We were doing live lynchings on TV with no rehearsals.” WTF
I’m from Louisiana and I can’t imagine how bad those trips were before they finished I49.
That Duthty impression was awesome lol
To be fair, I’m there at noon because I have to set up the ring, stage, lights, curtains, etc. the only thing we don’t do is drive the truck. It’s not just match prep.
"Feeding the chirping pigeons". I don't think he meant that literally. Just a hunch.
On a more serious note: After hearing this schedule and hearing that the wrestlers didn't have to be there until 1 hour before Bell Time, I can't imagine what the setup/teardown crew and the truck drivers had to do. The behind-the-scenes guys must have never seen a bed with that schedule.
When you watch the behind the scenes stuff the work looks insane with all that they do.
I always wondered how they’d keep their sanity intact. I attended a lot of WWF/WWE shows in the 90’s when they’d come to my hometown of Chicago, IL. I’d go to the hotel’s some of the talent stayed at and naturally they’d be at the hotel bar unwinding. If I was lucky I’d sneak in to the bar for an autograph as I was still a teenager at the time. Getting down to it I once saw Dustin Runnels (Goldust) doing shots as he was in tears over something, visibly upset. Same with Shawn Michaels also. I can imagine that being away from family, missing your spouse and or kid’s can just take its toll unless your strong mentally. I understand why so many talent became hooked on drugs and alcohol. The wrestling business didn’t seem very good to be in 20-30 year’s ago for somebody with a spouse and family. A lot of temptation and demons back in that time. Now they’re all going on TikTok and whatnot more and being like big kid’s instead of getting hooked on drug’s and alcohol. Then again WWE claims to have a strict Wellness Policy in place so if it wasn’t for that I sort of believe the old shit would be still happening.
LOL sex & drugs & booze
now it's videos games, Twitch, Instagram...
@@Gravydog316 this is a good thing really
TBH I think the modern sort of schedule where wrestlers have to fly all over the globe sounds worse than being in the car for hours every day, even if it's fewer overall days. Also, it seems to me a lot of modern wrestlers try to eat cleaner and work out more than was common in the old days.
Roy Shire’s NWA Big Time Wrestling ( based in San Francisco) was a great, successful promotion where the farthest the boys had to travel was 4 hours if they had to travel from SF to Reno, Nevada or Stockton CA. Plus, we have the best weather period.
Ahh you’re a big time fan of so little rain that you cannot possibly stop wildfires? I love Cali too bro but c’mon it’s only going downhill from here
I life in Louisiana and I love hearing Jim talk about his days in Mid-South!
Now we know why Jim wants to work from home.
Jim’s stories are a wrestling time machine.
Yeah he’s a good story teller
@@durden2480 And got a memory thsg would make elephants look like dementis patients.
How sweet of them to take time to feed the pigeons in every town they went to. ;)
😂😂😂
The man speaks truth. I sold beer to them at the truck stop I was working at in '89. :)
Geez Hughes Springs? I don't think that town has more than 1000 people in it. I guess a lot of the draw came from Texarkana.
The wrestling schedule is definitely geared toward a Bachelor life were you can date someone in every city it had to be hectic trying to be parent and never being home
I lived in Spartanburg and saw many of those matches. Awesome time ! But I moved to Charlotte ,and you could walk in the back isle where wrestlers would stand and watch the matches . Ric Flair would come out and stand around and talk . The old Charlotte Coliseum was a great place to watch wrestling. I think Saturday night was Spartanburg and Greenville was on Monday .
I've worked backstage for a Monday Night Raw. The catering is out of this world.
It is now. Back in the day, minor league baseball players had better "catering", which usually consisted of ballpark food IF they lucky.
I love hearing Cornettes Dusty impressions! This brings back so many memories of when and my grand dad would watch NWA!! Lol your impression is on point!
Jim I wish your common sense was contagious. Keep up the great work Jim Cornette for president.
I attended one wrestling event in my entire life long ago. MId South at Barton coliseum Little Rock. Main event was RnR express vs Midnight express. Rock n roll express won, stripped cornette down to his underwear, poured baby powder all over him and spanked him using his own tennis racket. Havent been a fan of wrestling in decades but ive really enjoying listening to all these people talk about the old days and the personalities of all the wrestlers. Great stuff
Hey, ratting is considered cardio as well as a time honoured Pro-Wrestling past time.
Absolutely brutal road schedule!
I saw a Big time wrestling event there (Jim was there) about 5 years ago. Holy Shit! It was like going back in time to the 80s. An old lady tried to fight the gay heel. Another drunk guy tried to climb the guard rail and got hauled off by the cops. The "it's still real to me dammit" guy was there. Two 20 year old guys were in front of us. They didn't know who he was. I explained to them who he was and I mentioned it was on CZcams. They had no idea what CZcams was!! It was surreal.
This my friends is called paying your dues
Rich is an awesome guy. We've been friends since he was doing radio in the RGV.
I loved those Thursday night shows in Biloxi at the MS Coast Coliseum! We where there every Thursday night! I still have photos of me and the Junkyard Dog, Mr Olympia and Iron Mike Sharpe. Great memories as a kid!
To think Mid South ran a show in Crossett of all places...wow.
@Millennial Smark Get a life, stop spamming your lame channel...
Damn...what a schedule. I'd go crazy being on the road that much.
this is amazing. a peek at the travel of mid-south. incomprehensible.
It's incredible listening to Jim tell stories of wrestling behind the scenes. Who knew all this was going on when i was an 10 year old back in '87. It was simply watching the matches and let the imagination run wild. The good old days of Pro Wrestling
I can listen to him spit the wrestling terms and lingo all day.
This thumbnail may be my favorite.
It’s fantastic
@@durden2480 Corny needs a teddy bear
Lol...I LOVE Corny's impression of Dusty Rhodes,it's spot on!!!.lol :P
I’m in Kansas, is anyone getting a political ad every 5 minutes? Don’t interrupt Corny!!!
Yes you have to sign up for YT premium
I've seen the same political ad for my state for like 3 months now and it's a horrid ad. It goes RAPE DEFUND THE POLICE? yada yada. I'll be glad when November is over.
Anyone who knew what they were looking at knew Bobby Eaton was the real deal. Dennis quite simply got serious every time he worked. Love the Bad Guy!
I'm worn out just listening to the travel schedule. I hate driving distances. Have no idea how these guys did it.
Cocaine. Lots of it.
There's a company in Florida that has a two hour show every Tuesday as well as shows almost every weekend.
OMG!! Corny had Dusty Rhodes lisp down to the tee! 🤣😂🤣
Jim sleeping with glasses on, in the picture. 🤣🤣
WWW used to come in at midnight Saturday night. I tried my dammest to stay awake and watch it. I loved it. In Canada it was hard to get info on the territories back in 86'ish. But god I loved it.
Take a drink every time he says “3AM”
Thanks for the shout out big Jim
Yes! Thank you Jim! I live in Providence and that name Dunkin' Donuts Center is asinine! But in a strange way, apropos; after all, what's in the center of a donut? A hole! NOTHING! Fitting for when WWE comes to town.
"I would turn a Hampton Inn into a bell tower" bruh 😭🤣
No one does a better Dusty, than Jim
I don't usually comment on the art work but beautiful Bobby's hair and face are right on you just forgot the double tights pulled up to his moobs
My dad was a wrestler during the late 70’s-1991. The same stories Jim is taking about. I heard these stories all the time. My dad knew all those guys. My dad wrestled in damn near all the territories. He told me it’s weeks he count make 600-700 a week. Some weeks you might just make 100-150 a week. He told me some times promoters. Just wouldn’t pay you lol. By the way he couldn’t stand Jerry lawler
I love hearing guys talk about the territory days, all the way up through the Monday Night Wars.
I can believe it about having hardly any room to breathe concerning the lack of dressing room space. Years after the days following WCW/GCW touring days were over, I was delivering pallets to what is now known as the Dow Event Center in Saginaw. I asked if I could use the men's room near the stage entrance way. I couldn't believe how small the damn locker room, not rooms, WAS ! Holy shit ! Unreal !
Not everyday i see sagnasty mentioned. Basically grew up there as it was the only large city nearby.
Hearing Jim call it where you would insert the hose to give Michigan an enema was funny and a little anger inducing
Ah, Michigan. Why must it have a city like Saginaw
This reminds me of my week when I had to go ninety miles each way to school in Brecksville,Ohio from my home in Westlake Ohio and then when I moved to Texas, I had to be picked up to go sixty miles round trip to high school in Houston by the Galleria from my home here in Spring. I would have to get up at five in the morning or six in the morning to catch the bus that picked me up between seven and seven thirty in the morning or car pool before my school in Ohio had bus service. I don't think wrestlers of today get what it was like to hold a schedule like yours where ninety percent of your time is in a car or a bus.
Forget finding time to workout, when did they get to play video games?!
What time does the episode usually drop on Fridays ???
I wonder how it was for Jim doing the Smoky Mountain Wrestling road schedule, as owner, booker, and main event manager for the Heavenly Bodies? What was a week like in Smoky Mountain, I wonder Jim Cornette?
WWE Network has an hour of raw footage from the Lex Express tour and you can see an event where Lex is at the catering table. Vince was there too. Sounds right.
Hard hard life. I heard the Calgary, Mid South and Amarillo territories were the toughest. Not much of a life
Jim didn't mention it but Amarillo wasn't the only promotion making the Odessa/Midland run. Southwest Championship Wrestling(Joe Blanchard) ran shows every other week, World Class ran once a month, twice if business was good. And on the rate occasion, the Guerrero's would come in from El Paso over every other month but they had their shows in a completely different venue than the other three promotions. If you know anything about Texas, then you know why Paul Bosch's promotion never ran a show there. Even Watts' UWF didn't have but three shows during it's run.
I don't understand why they drive all the way back home every night why not just drive to next town that already is in the direction they are going. 🤷♂️
Wow that schedule sounds 10x worse than doing otr trucking. That sounds horrific trying to keep a schedule like that.
This is easily my new favorite channel.
WWF catering in the '90s sounded terrible. I've heard ostrich meat is really great due to being very low in fat and lamb's really good nutritionally (sadly it's red meat so Mr. McMahon would see it as bad).
I would hate to deal with the heat or small locker rooms.
Little Rock. Barton Coliseum. Seen many Mid South matches there
Oh with the pickup truck with Corny just classic
that Dumbbell has some M.C. Ecsher shit going on with it
Time to work out jim, Monday and Tuesday morning before you leave at 4pm for the show covariance you are home by midnight
Hey now, im In Jacksonville!🤣🤣🤣 Actually, it's still a pain in the ass🤷🤷🤷
Is there a road stories omnibus?
15:40-20:25 this is one of the key points i was hoping he'd talk about
Just listening to that schedule makes me want to do drugs🤣🤣🤣
Dear Tide
Please get a spokesperson that can say “regularly”
Thank you
Glad to hear that I was not the only guy who couldn't get there haircut into a bowl cut
If ur a top draw in Mid-South Wrestling, does that mean no time off due to popularity as a heel?