Is Speedsoft taking over Airsoft?
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We have found that outdoor games with speedsofters can be a lot of fun. It also changes the dynamics of the game with how fast paced it can become but we never feel as if theres an unfair advantage with someone having a pistol with a 300 round m4 mag, just tests your own skill and ability.
We call that woodsoft.
no wait...
One of our local outdoor fields actually built a pole-barn with a CQB setup inside, just to cater to the speedsofters. It works really well, because all the speedy bois play in there all day, and leave the rentals and walk-on players alone.
Lol we stomp speedsofters, even in cqb. It is all fun though.
Yeah separate but equal, but I can see it costing field owners money to build specific cqb fields within their own field.
Sadly I gave up airsoft indoor due to the amount of spray and pray playing that was going on. I believe outdoor organised events that have a military base of play with tactics and teams/units keep the old style game play to the best playing standards.
Like paintball in the late-90s the gamers are ruining a good thing
Before I quit airsoft, the most fun I ever had was running minimal gear with a small HPA tapped MP7 playing CQB
Not worrying about looking cool carrying tons of gear/a big gun, or taking 10-20 min to find a gunfight only to get hit and walk back to spawn.
For the casual player the speedsoft route is the way to go. Fast and fun. I hope to get back into the sport one day.
I wish speedqb was in the UK more
Not trying to throw hate, but I’ve personally seen speedsoft kill a lot of indoor places in the NY/NJ area. Many players, including myself, have started to almost exclusively play outdoors because of the speedsoft style players. And it’s beginning to kill off the little business indoor fields would get. Which is really a shame, cause I can genuinely see the appeal of that type of play. But the problem is that it’s hard to get into for new players, and many of the “old school” guys like me just simply don’t want to. But unless you’re specifically at a game to play in that style, it isn’t really fun for anyone else. It’s like trying to get someone who plays Squad/Arma exclusively to play a game of Apex Legends.
I speedsoft and there a bunch of fields that filled with players regardless. I play from New Hampshire to Rhode Island. They are always filled with players. Feel good farms. Rpc. UBG. Battlegroundz. My personal favorite is Extreme Airsoft. Best field on the east coast. At that field they have a city and speed field. I play every other weekend. Im not on a team. Im in a few groups. There’s not shortage of new and veteran players here.
hi Jonathan! yes, speedsoft has definitely been growing, albeit at a much slower pace, here in Taiwan. especially now that Action Bunker has closed. but Taichung has a couple indoor fields opening up so we'll see. can't wait to check out the scene in the states in a few days!
I basically went full circle with the speedsoft thing. Started out normal indoor airsofter at 10 with an aeg, then I got a gas blowback pistol, then I hpa the gas blowback pistol, then I got a polarstar and competed competitively on a team, team broke up I went back to hpa pistol, and now 12 years after I first started airsoft I just use green gas pistol and consider myself a "normal" airsofter: no speedsoft no milsim. I wish things were back to where they used to be when players were just airsofters, not speedsofters or milsimers. I get the whole milsim events or speedsoft tournaments, but casual games it's kind of annoying when you have to deal with somebody who's entire airsoft identity is speedsoft or milsim.
Glad to see ya back doing the Q&A man! I used to get so much information when I was first starting out from these videos. I've started a channel myself, up to about 200 subs in 3-4 months, was wondering if ya have any advice for someone trying to grow thier channel and reach out to vendors/companies about products for review to make content?
I think I accidentally became a speedsofter at the ai500 last weekend, it was in a shopping centre and my 7" MTW just felt slow, heavy and cumbersome in that environment. So I slapped a 350rnd gas drum mag (that I had bought for this event) into my ssp18 and spent most of the weekend using that
I had also spent a £130 on buying what I needed to do a 7" setup on my MTW for that event
I have never done so much running in my life I think my legs finally fully recovered 4 days after the event
But it helped the team while most were holding back playing tactical I was charging forward taking players by surprise and getting them off those corners stairwells ect
Myself and my two sons have been playing for less than a year.
That said we have two fields locally. One indoor arena and one outdoor field. The speedsofters all play at the indoor field. You basically never see them at the outdoor field. Interestingly, some of the outdoor guys will go to the indoor field to do some CQB stuff.
Personally, I don't take any of this stuff seriously so we do both. They're both fun in their own way.
Wish more players was like this
I don’t think speedsoft style works outdoors that well. I still play aggressively outdoors but there’s a big difference between running for 30 seconds to get back into the fight compared to running across woodland is a huge factor. Plus outdoors play seems to be more campy so run and gun doesn’t do too well with it.
Still rock a hpa ssg and dye mask outdoors though
100% it works. you just have to know when to turn the knob up to 11.
@@Apostasy_Plague maybe just the fields I play at but I find outdoor games mega campy and running into a building goes from a 30 second turn around to a 7 minute walk to get back to the action
The SpeedQB style is limited in Japan at indoor fields because you can't run indoors at most fields. You can only walk so it kind of forces indoor play to be more methodical like real CQB. Would be interesting to see if a US based indoor field adopted the same policies how it would drive play.
The thing is that indoor fields in Japan are still dominated by Japan's version of speedsoft players, who are known for playing the "UAB" format. It's notably different from what people think of as "speedsoft" in the West in that there's less aggressive movement and high-powered guns and more emphasis on skilled pop-shooting, but its similar insofar as playing airsoft in the guise of competitive-focused formats and rulesets (and indeed in Japan the players of SpeedQB and UAB overlap a lot).
It still also causes a level of consternation in Japan when people who are more interested in casual play or cosplay-esque airsoft outings come up against players who are able to severely beat them. This is made worse to an extent by Japanese fields often using single-life play formats; if you consistently come up against someone who immediately takes you out, it means you may barely play throughout an entire session.
So while a lot of the details and stereotypes (i.e. overpowered guns, overshooting etc.) of competitive style players in the West are different from what you see in Japan, the base issue of very different needs/wants and playstyles coming into potential conflict remains.
@@GaosenKinetics this. One thing I liked about airsoft in US over Hong Kong is objective based games provide respawn opputunities so you're not stuck out of the match.
I started and play at an outdoor field. It works really well. I was one of the first adopting that fast pace style at my field about 3 years back. Now I'd say 30% of people there play like that and the field owners are making a small tournament field.
I live in California so speedsoft has been taking over cuz California. I love speedsoft but I wish there were other interesting alternatives.
Hey, I'm a airsoft player for Puerto Rico and I want to start the 1st indoor field ever over here but I don't have that much funds to start it .... Do you have any tips of how to raise enough funds to get it started?
The airsoft scene is somewhat big over here but its mostly divided into 4 sections North, South, East, and West have different fields that they play at I have been to most of the fields here and talked to a lot of players and they all want the same thing a indoor field that has Rules Referees and a store all in one place
I got the store thing down but thats about it.
I wish my indoors fields had room clearing but it’s all set up for Speedsoft.
more fields need to get used to speedsoft. it sucks that the styles off play clash so terribly, paintball had the same thing with speedball, i think that indoor fields are gonna make speedqb a standard and outdoor fields are probably gonna lead more milsim on their large fields, and more speedy on cqb fields. I guess we'll see...
Here in WA State US there is only one indoor field and it is very restrictive with no hpa allowed etc so outdoor milsim type games are more common.
I'm from Washington and when I visit Washington I only play at forest fire but I really wanna make a cqb field up there one day with no hps ban
@@SniffedUpGlue it would be awesome to have more options. Unfortunately, commercial spaces cost an arm and a leg west of the mountains and im sure most property owners wouldn't like the idea of plastic bbs getting shot everywhere in their building lol. I havent been to forest fire yet. Have been meaning to get out there.
In my experience, speedsofters have almost entirely taken over the CQB field I play at. But when it comes to outdoor, while there are players who do play aggressive, there are none that I would consider as speedsofters (USA)
Ah I missed this. So nice to see AS back
I speedsoft and there a bunch of fields that filled with players regardless. I play from New Hampshire to Rhode Island. They are always filled with players. Feel good farms. Rpc. UBG. Battlegroundz. My personal favorite is Extreme Airsoft. Best field on the east coast. At that field they have a city and speed field. I play every other weekend. Im not on a team. Im in a few groups. There’s not shortage of new and veteran players here.
What does it take to run a good field.ive beel looking into opening my own here in socal
Good questions!
I’ve been playing speedball (paintball) for years. Speedsoft actually has me coming over to airsoft.
Most of the pushback or problems I've seen in the UK and TW with Speedsoft/SpeedQB is when you try and mix it with other players, which is an unfortunate reality for many site operators due to logistics and visitor/player numbers.
When given its own space to occupy exclusively and all players sign up for it and the rules, it works well enough.
I like to mess with people by playing speedsoft with a gbbr and milsim with a dsg.
went to ballahack this past weekend, and tbh with how many people were there, most of the games that day being centered around the cqb town, and how little focus on objectives there was, it felt like i was playing outdoor speedsoft, it was my first time there and it made me not want to go back
Great Video!
I play at a very large outdoor field and its got a pretty deacent mix of play styles but speed soft definitely rules over the others, there arent many speedQB looking players at my field tho its actually more milsim type dudes in full kit but they just play super aggressive with hpas and sprint all the time, i actually kinda perfer this style tho
Such a shame about CZcams hates us. :(
I have seen it a few times at the field I played at outdoor but they had to work really hard to play at the same level at everyone else
as someone who started as a casual player and moved to a speedier style, i understand why people are frusterated. More and more poeple are becoming way more attracted to speed style than slowsoft (not trying to be mean)
Some of my friends were thinking about starting a field and I was wondering what it takes to do so legally. (we're in the US btw)
A lot and it all depends on whether you want to do indoor or outdoor. First and foremost is location where it is legal, second is insurance.
@@LifeLibertyandPursuit We have rural property to work with, so it’s most likely going to be outdoors. I’d say insurance is the bigger question.
@@zacbram8053 there are insurance companies that offer policies specifically built for airsoft fields. Just have to do a little research. Also, you have to see if the zoning laws for your property permit that kind of activity. Typically, it needs to be land zoned as recreational to allow outdoor airsoft, which brings its own issues as you cannot build permanent structures on recreational property. It would be worth going to your local township with a proposal and they could give you a better idea if it is okay.
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Hey Johnathan. In the past few years I have been seeing great outdoor fields shut down for good recently in the past few years. My team and I have been trying our hardest to support them and help out as much as we can but is there anything else that is the players help fields to stay open?
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I have seen some speedsofters (even small teams) play on outdoor fields. Most other players (outdoor players mind you) I talk to, like 90% of them, strongly dislike these players on these fields. This includes myself as well.
Mostly because this playstyle negates all the tactical play most outdoor players are looking for and it just becomes a bullet(bb)-fest in the closer areas of the field. Including lots of overshooting, even on single-shot events.
What we usually do is just ignore those parts, but since at least some objectives are always in those areas this becomes just frustrating to play around.
To quoute a teammate of mine regarding this: "They have their indoor fields, they should stay there if that's all they can/will do and let outdoor players play their way on the outdoor fields".
1 positive side on the speedsofters on outdoor fields: their coloured Dye-masks stand out very well in the sun, like a beacon asking to be shot.
Is outdoor speedsoft similar to woodsball?
Hey jona!
We actually have an area in Denmark that we built ourselves in a factory we borrow from the owner, which is only for milsim/tactical games. There we only use, for example, a tourniquet for resuscitation, no counting in.
The problem is that most see speedsoft as an enemy and not a lose leader. After all, they are really competitive, so that will automatically make the sport, an actually sport. Personally, I think it should be seen as an overall goal. Fields can, for example, divide the days into specific events. Saturday is speedsoft, Sunday is normal/milsim or similar.
We had a local speedsoft guy attending berget this year. Was amazing to see, and he did it very well too.
Love your content! You actually already have talked about my/our channel before, but defently should look again, since we made a couple of new videos from an area we actually got, for only realism and milsim games.
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This i agree with. Which the indoor field I go to does this.
Never tried speedsoft.... but i know that airsoft is making a return after the two yrs of crap we all had!
In the Netherlands there was 1 field that did kind of damn missions and it was players VS actors.
It was Awesome!!
I was there 6times or more... Then Corona came and the place is no more...
On topic, speedqb is getting bigger in the Netherlands and I don't like it...
Because no one is setting up a field for like milsim games of games with a story...
In the past I played more on those fields, now I joining events for a weekend outside the Netherlands
In a wooded field and uneven ground the speedsoft play is damn near impossible. They sometimes come to the field in their indoor speedsoft clothes and well their bright and colors or black gear is easy to see in the day and me who has a sr25 dmr with 400fps with a .3g bb semi locked. Yeah it is easy picking for me. Dsg are not great for outdoors. Also they cannot spam or feather the trigger. Same goes for regulars and milsim players. Yeah they don't have to much fun against any polostar lmg. I have seen some speedsoft players get a milsim loadout for outdoors because pushing to hard or sprinting in the open where it is sometimes level has lead to either a spraned ankle or wrist or a broken bone. They did sign the waver and are warned ahead of time and well it is like basically I can bring a horse to water but it doesn't mean it will drink the water. Outdoor level fields are great for both speedsoft, milsim and noobies. But for extremely hilly field with level terrain that leave out in the open like a sitting duck where taking it carefully and slowly into the woods is the better option I hear alot of them complaining and them leaving early. Always have a primary gun for indoor and another for outdoors and maybe a third that can be used in both. If you don't prepare you will have a terrible time. Their is a reason mil speed exists they have adapted to both playstyles into one so they can play anywhere. Sorry for making this so long but their is no way to have shortened this without sounding pretentious. Thank you for your time and have a great day.
aye feature BoxMan Airsoft, his channel is disgustingly underappreciated.
I kinda see it in my local indoor fields in the Philippines. Its neither bad nor good. But it is very homogenous with the M4 and HiCapa platforms being the only things they have a tendency to use.
Not bad, but very, very bland.
The last time I was at a outdoor field they was always a group of pstars that would constantly over shoot from with in the minimum engagement distance ( shooting to close ) and not not call their hit and the. Get mad if anyone would appose them
Where I live in the UK we have an indoor field with TAP TAP pause shooting limit, so spraying people is not an option whether you play speedsoft or not. I think it levels things for everyone🙂 Running like a headless chicken is the other thing :)
I gave up playing social games, and now purely focus and I can believe I'm one of them, but I'm purely a competition speedQB player now. It's the only fkn way I can play and not have to really deal with effing cheaters and petty people and their egos. More than once I nearly beat people half to death for it. It's better for their health if I don't play social games outdoors anymore.
I haven't yet watched the video, but I can answer the title already: no it is not. Here in Poland, all around Warsaw it is increasingly hard to find CQB locations so milsim airsoft is thriving. Same can be said about large area around Szczecin in the north-west part of Poland, as far as I've heard from buddies living there, a lot of good CQB locations also closed a few years back.
The biggest problem is speedsoft is not a play style... Its a game type... Its a game type as it comes with special sets of rules played on a special, mirrored field, etc... If you run and gun in a cqb arena its idk, speedqb, as a fast paste version...
Nowdays if i grab a pb mask, a hpa whatever and I play in some casual gear i'm a speedsofter... Why? Imho its just stupid...
Unless someone buys CZcams or they make a big change I don’t think we will stop being flagged.
Nah, more realistic GBBR (CQB) airsoft is about to take over things really, especially in Europe.
No shame….I’d like to shoutout my channel, Brad Beard Airsoft….I’ve made a lot of progress since the last time I asked!
Not really where I play outdoors they would get shot up and the terrain is no flat for the sprinting they could get hurt
TAGINN is actually moving their factories out of Russia. So rejoice, it will be available relatively soon.
I've never met a speedsofter that wasn't causing issues...
Speedsofters have wrecked my local
Keeping an eye on who gets asked to leave and who gets chatted to about cheating. It’s 70% speedsofters, 30% more MilSim lads in teams, I’ve found speedwankers love to aim for the neck and mouth way more often than centre mass
Can a bb pierce a airsoft vest
Uh not unless it’s made out of printer paper or cardboard.
It can, really depends on what you’re shot by and how close
Most players in Puerto Rico like milsim games but Dress and play it like speedqb
We don't have any indoor fields anywhere in here
Im a "speedsoft" player that plays mainly outside.
edit... Wouldent mind a shotout!
I witnessed this live 👋
Speed softers don't seem to go with the flow, they see an opportunity to rush (by nature) rush in make some kills and irritate opposing team and their own. Wether they are successful or not, it seems like confrontation follows speed softers and that's what creates toxicity.. 🤷♂️
I have a question, and I've heard it from a few people and yes I even have my own opinions on it, BUT I wanna hear it from a professional's standpoint. lol. IS AIRSOFT ACTUALLY CONSIDERED "LARPING"?????
I personally think that speedQB Should be limited to indoor fields I have never had fun playing alongside or against speedsoft are at the outdoor fields they don’t work as a team and God help you if you’re trying to be sneaky
high speed low drag
but i am fat and slow
heres to losing weight 💪
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Airsoft. Electric. Grenade. , could be a sound only or add LEDs , reusable for cheap and super quick reset., adjustable fuse why is this not a thing... I made one with a push button mp3 meant for greeting cards. million $$ idea just saying lol
Google hates guns, and you're going to get flagged either by the software or the cancel mob. I know everyone goes to CZcams for videos, but you should consider moving anything iffy to Odysee or Rumble or someplace they don't actually hate us.
People who want to play airsoft need to accept getting hit. Whether its 2 bb's or 20. You play because you want to shoot.
Expect to get shot as well. Simple. Talking about quickness of equipment and players is pointless. Games will evolve.
Just accept the game the way its played by most players and you'll enjoy it better. If you don't, then it wasn't for you to get
shot in the first place.
I hate "Speedsoft" ... mostly because I'm even older than Higgs.
It's definitely going sqb. You only have to look at the ssp5 and the release today of the Krytac Maxim 9, both aimed squarely at Speed Q B players.
I, you know the person writing this comment, got into airsoft for the realism so dye masks and hundreds of rounds is not that. I don't care if others are playing it but I will certainly not participate.
In my opinion airsoft is airsoft. People are becoming too soft and don’t like getting out played or shot in a game you play to shoot each other. Then complain and say it’s over shooting when they take 3-5 bbs to their person. And I guarantee the majority isn’t just shooting 1 bb each encounter to hit a person.
If people played to have fun and stop complaining when they’re beating airsoft would be more fun. Just a lot of egotistical people…
Speedsoft shouldn't be a thing... I mean to me there hpa is very dangerous up close as my right 3rd finger has a permanent scar as a hpa pistol shot me in the finger with my gloves on and the bbs went under and through my skin to my bone like it took 3 weeks to heal up as the scab keep coming off as it was very deep.
Hpa should be OK outside not indoors as they can either make people mad and quit or like my injury deal massive amount of damage
That just sounds like you didn’t take care of the wound to me. Also GBB and aeg can shot the same power output
@@blkairsoft55 I did I cleaned it up and I had a patch over it for a week till the scab was on and it stopped bleeding
@@michaelmccr3294 that’s honestly odd. Then again for me my methods is to leave it exposed after scabbing. Keeping it covered keeps it moist underneath imo slowing the healing process
@@blkairsoft55 I covered it cause the bleeding would not stop for 1 week cause I was working for 3 weeks straight without letting it rest and heal but I did take it off after it stopped just to scab but liek I said the bb shot it was very deep to the point that you can see the bone and the scab kept falling off everything it tried to heal under it as it was deep and the scab could fully cover it ibut it heal in the end not fully though as it's still sensitive and hurt when I hold my aeg for a good time
@@michaelmccr3294 ok the constant movement makes sense. Pretty much never had the chance to heal properly from the shot due to work and etc in your life. I gotcha 👍🏾. Mine was a deep bruising but not showing bone but I avoided heavy use.
speedsofters are nancies
i want a ics mgl so i
can run it indoors my local feild allows it so i love it
Yes. It’s became a little bit child friendly.
The airsoft Karen's
This is the same delineation in the paintball world. Speedballers and Milsim. Two sides of the same coin, but should not be mixed on the field.
Where are all the GBBR Magazines at to buy, whether WA based or those for the WE Tech open bolt system, or any other!? Its not just in the USA, but Asia and Europe too, where GBBRs are hugely popular. Online sellers and Ebayers are even gouging on prices for the little available. Xie xie, Laowhy.
Casual Play is NOT Dead lets keep it 100 TROLLS, GUYS NOT CALLING HITS, FIGHTS and FREAKOUT VIDEOS are the result of the casual play model if the fields Are Not DOING THEIR PART PROVIDING THAT SAFE FUN ENVIRONMENT... Every field that is open is Profit driven first... if they were service minded Both models would be fun and to be honest they are... As Player We have to know when to hold back a field full of nobs is not the time to balls deep like your getting paid for every BB fired and Bonus for EMPTY MAGS... But a GoPro and CZcams is Kryptonite... For Guy Like Myself I had fun with Noobs and SpeedQB teams But at this point i like the nature of Competition its a different Rush.
its better then standing around taken orders .....milsim aint it
speedqb nd speedsoft
its better tthem milsim somi say yes